The "Speech" is the Train Station announcer before the train pulls out from the station, and we all go for a ride through the Brithish countryside on the front of the train...real fast.
The Station announcer on Rudy is from Paddington Station in London, Calling at Reading, Didcot. I used to travel to Wales with my parents from this station as i lived in Paddington, and the Station announcer was a very familiar prominent voice back in the early 1970s. When i got this album for Christmas in 1974, I remember the Irony of hearing the Paddington train announcer on Rudy. And to my knowledge if my memory serves me, he was still there announcing the trains up until the early 1980s.
You have reacted to two gems from Supertramp's best album by far. At 62 years old I have seen Supertramp live in Barcelona several times, they have always sounded and played like true masters. School's harmonica introduction always plays at the beginning and end of concerts. They were one of the top bands of the seventies and eighties. Keep on rocking guy. Greetings from a Barcelona's drummer .
First concert I ever attended. SUPERTRAMP at the Forum in Los Angeles in 1980. Teenager in awe at their talent. "RUDY" (where they played a film behind the band of a crazy train ride), "CRIME OF THE CENTURY" (simply astounding), and "FOOL'S OVERTURE" (absolutely brilliant) were the highlights... but everything was great.
Two of the eight masterpiece songs that make Crime Of The Century Supertramp's masterpiece of masterpiece albums. Our host possibly hearing Dreamer: it was a radio hit, is often played as background music in grocery stores/pharmacies/restaurants/etc. Dreamer is yet another well crafted pop song by Roger Hodgson---despite the happy melodies, a bit of angst is in the lyrics--something RH knew how to do well. Rudy is Rick Davies' best work, Besides the musical trip you go on, RD is in his usual genre lyrically--melancholy/bitterness. The video of the live version done in Paris in 1979 has a video of a train going down the tracks, reinforcing the lyrics. Even better live, synths instead of strings gives the song a bit more urgency, along with Rick's piano/vocals, the call and response vocals between RH and RD are also more dramatic live
I brought the album with me to Crazy Eddie’s when I bought my first component stereo in college. Didn’t find out until reading comments to Supertramp reactions here on TH-cam that others did that with Crime of the Century too. And Rudy was the song I chose.
Two great tracks. DREAMER has have lots of radio play time. I may have heard RUDY on the radio once if ever. A shame. it's starts out slow and mellow, then starts to accelerate like a train and in no time we are MOVING! You are gonna love it the second half, or already do since you already made the video ;-) Rock on everyone!
The song were familiar for me as well. I’d visit my sister Judy’s house and I remember seeing the album near her turntable. This was the mid to late 70’s. After finding BREAKFAST IN AMERICA, I had to purchase all the SUPERTRAMP I could find. I put CRIME OF THE CENTURYon the turntable and faintly recognized all the songs. Judy passed in the early 80’s, joined the “J’s” in the 27 club. “Crime” will always remind me of her.
The whole of this album is incredible. The storytelling and the music is a perfect blend on every song. I often have this as my 'Drive over to work' CD. Can sing at the top of my lungs with no-one to scare :) My personal favourite is 'Hide in Your Shell' Just so, so good.
Thank you Robin, Rudy is my favorite! L33, try listening School and Bloody Well Right together. Still need to hit "Hide in your Shell" "Asylum" and "If Everyone Was Listening" Thank You!
Rudy. What a great track from such an innovative group of talented musicians. Much under-rated and perhaps never enjoyed the success their skills deserved, but, the saving grace is that because of their uniqueness they were never copied. Thanks for sharing L33, keep well my man.
One of the best song of the album which contains many others masterpieces. Check the live version of it (Paris 79) with the black and white video of the train at the middle of the song, which enlarge the experience widely.
Saw them perform these two amazing songs on The Old Grey Whistle Test as the album came out. Oh man! Straight down to the record shop next day. Happy, happy days of ‘74.
My foster dad was a library director. Back in the late 70s when THIS was on the air (he considered THIS dumbed down even then) he said that we were headed to the post-literate era. Don't neglect "Hide In Your Shell" - my favorite track on the Album. In 73 this along with DSOTM & Steely Dan was the audio crack of the day. Well, there was far more of course. There are articles about how even though the tech for recording, production, etc. has massively improved, the actual dynamic (and I would argue creative) range of recorded music has flattened. All-the-time loud is not dynamic. Gotta have the intricate quiet bits, and they need to be seamlessly organically wrought IE, the SEVENTIES baby!
Back in the day when I was somewhat of an audioFile (thus the play on my screen name), I used Dreamer as one of my speaker evaluation songs. Rudy is also great, but pretty long. Supertramp is in my top 5 bands all time. Then again, sometimes they slip to #6. But they're great! I saw them in concert back in the day. It was one of the best sounding concerts I have been to.
I find that the combo of Dougie Thompson (bass) and Bob Siebenberg (drum) is really overlooked. They bring so much to the songs and are really tasteful players. To me they are as important as the keys or guitar!
"Rudy" is a sad but beautiful track, one of the greatest on this amazing album. I always figured that the entire song takes place in a big city, as well as in the mind and soul of the lost young man, or kid...But the final verse ("Now he's just come out /from/ the movie, numb of all the pain") also suggests that something has been edited out from the song: we never hear that he *entered* a movie theatre, although there could have been a verse saying that before the instrumental middle section of the song. Maybe they cut out two or three minutes due to the LP format? - though they could have fit it in even if the track had been ten minutes long. I've known this album since I was ten years old or something. :)
The song Asylum from the album Crime of the Century, shows Rick's ability to express emotion that ends in desperation., Hope you react to it when you are able.
Love Supertramp and always recommend their Live in Paris album. All of the songs have so much more energy with the live performance that I sometimes find it hard to listen to the studio versions.
I have been fortunate enough to have seen Supertramp “The Tramp” Live 4 times. Their live shows are a spectacle and brilliant. Each member is a musical genius. Rick Davies is my favorite keyboards player and John Helliwell is favorite Sax player. He is a blast to watch live. The bass and drummer are awesome and Roger’s guitars are superb. The only live show I put above Supertramp is Pink Floyd, who I have seen 4 times.
Magic Lee. Rely on you to do the biz, my other favourite reactors are over-complicating with obscure stuff, rankings, guests etc. Did you not get the train sounds and station announcement? Dreamer was a good single, Rudy just a brilliant composition!
Never thought of Supertramp as prog. On their most adventurous pieces, it's art-rock at its best. Rudy is the best piece on Crime of the Century, which itself is their masterpiece. Davies brought a mix of Elton/Procol Harum feel, whereas Hodgson was folkier, some of his songs have an early Cat Stevens feel to them (Easy Does It, Sister Moonshine, Give a Little Bit, Even in The Quietest Moments)...
Yes, I definitely recommend listening to "Bloody Well Right" again, but particularly if you're doing it on your own, consider listening to "School" and just letting it segue... the songs were basically designed that way, and perhaps the thematic connection will help sell the song better. And if it doesn't, well, you'll know you tried. ;-] Cheers! ;-]
I said it before, and I'll say it again LOL.... check out Supertramps's first two albums, and you'll really hear their progression. Also, relisten to School\Bloody Well Right, as those two songs play together as two parts of the intro story. I do like how you are taking to this band, one of my favs (and the Crime of the Cenbtury album is a true complete masterpiece)
Crime of the Centiry is a fabulous album! Just pure musicianship, and doesn't have the overt commercial feel of "Breakfast In America", which admittedly is a good album, but to me, just had too many marketing execs hanging off it and smoothing over the tracks. Good for the band in terms of fame I guess. I still say "Hide In Your Shell" and "Asylum" are the best tracks on the Crime of the Century album. 😊
I know that it is like that but I have no idea how people can think that "Raining Again" or "Breakfast in America" is on this level or comes even close to it. I just don't get it.
When you react to their masterpiece, "Fool's Overture", Please remember to react to the version on the Live Paris *album* (its on TH-cam). But don't react to the video of that concert. Fools Overture in concert has a better tempo in some movements (a little faster) than in the original studio version. It makes it more exciting in Paris. Also, on the vocal finále, it sounds better in Paris. I don't know if it was mic'd better or maybe the reverb was turned up a bit. Plus there is the audience appreciation for the Winston Churchill speech segment. But DONT watch the video of the concert! The live video version has circus on stage toward the end, and the big screen video doesn't match the song, either.(plus it was mixed years later.) It's just too distracting watching the stage actors' antics, for a first listen, imo. I have made this comment elsewhere about the Paris live album being better , and other people agreed; it's not just me.
“School” is still my favorite, but “Rudy” is the real hidden gem on this album.
I feel the same way. But crime of the century is sooooo good too. This album Is one of the best I've heard from this genre so far
Live in Paris !!!!
Dreamer and Rudy is fantastic, this album is fantastic.
The "Speech" is the Train Station announcer before the train pulls out from the station, and we all go for a ride through the Brithish countryside on the front of the train...real fast.
The Station announcer on Rudy is from Paddington Station in London, Calling at Reading, Didcot. I used to travel to Wales with my parents from this station as i lived in Paddington, and the Station announcer was a very familiar prominent voice back in the early 1970s. When i got this album for Christmas in 1974, I remember the Irony of hearing the Paddington train announcer on Rudy. And to my knowledge if my memory serves me, he was still there announcing the trains up until the early 1980s.
Rudy is so well produced that it is one of those songs that audiophiles took to the Hi Fi Shops to test the sound of stereos before they bought one.
I used "School" and ended up with a pair of B&W 😂
You have reacted to two gems from Supertramp's best album by far.
At 62 years old I have seen Supertramp live in Barcelona several times, they have always sounded and played like true masters. School's harmonica introduction always plays at the beginning and end of concerts. They were one of the top bands of the seventies and eighties.
Keep on rocking guy.
Greetings from a Barcelona's drummer .
Es vosté molt afortunat d'haber sigut testimoni d'aquesta epoca tant meravellosa...Jo tinc 45 añys i he d'admetre que tinc una mica de sana enveja😅
@arkphoenix340 Ostres !!!
S'agraeix !!! Quins temps fantàstics aquells , d'aquí en endavant , de tú , encara en vull sentir jove !!!
How do you not listen to the whole album?
My god you're killing me!
I sent in Crime of the Century and School. They are the best songs on the album in my opinion.
First concert I ever attended. SUPERTRAMP at the Forum in Los Angeles in 1980. Teenager in awe at their talent. "RUDY" (where they played a film behind the band of a crazy train ride), "CRIME OF THE CENTURY" (simply astounding), and "FOOL'S OVERTURE" (absolutely brilliant) were the highlights... but everything was great.
Two of the eight masterpiece songs that make Crime Of The Century Supertramp's masterpiece of masterpiece albums. Our host possibly hearing Dreamer: it was a radio hit, is often played as background music in grocery stores/pharmacies/restaurants/etc. Dreamer is yet another well crafted pop song by Roger Hodgson---despite the happy melodies, a bit of angst is in the lyrics--something RH knew how to do well.
Rudy is Rick Davies' best work, Besides the musical trip you go on, RD is in his usual genre lyrically--melancholy/bitterness.
The video of the live version done in Paris in 1979 has a video of a train going down the tracks, reinforcing the lyrics. Even better live, synths instead of strings gives the song a bit more urgency, along with Rick's piano/vocals, the call and response vocals between RH and RD are also more dramatic live
I brought the album with me to Crazy Eddie’s when I bought my first component stereo in college. Didn’t find out until reading comments to Supertramp reactions here on TH-cam that others did that with Crime of the Century too. And Rudy was the song I chose.
Two great tracks from Supertramp ... love "Rudy"
Obra maestra!!!
The concert included an old black and white film of a train trip sped up and perfectly timed with the middle part. Musically visual af!
Two great tracks. DREAMER has have lots of radio play time.
I may have heard RUDY on the radio once if ever. A shame. it's starts out slow and mellow, then starts to accelerate like a train and in no time we are MOVING! You are gonna love it the second half, or already do since you already made the video ;-) Rock on everyone!
One of my top 10 favorite albums of all time!! And I am not a huge Supertramp fan but this album is Great!!
The song were familiar for me as well. I’d visit my sister Judy’s house and I remember seeing the album near her turntable. This was the mid to late 70’s. After finding BREAKFAST IN AMERICA, I had to purchase all the SUPERTRAMP I could find. I put CRIME OF THE CENTURYon the turntable and faintly recognized all the songs. Judy passed in the early 80’s, joined the “J’s” in the 27 club. “Crime” will always remind me of her.
Saw Supertramp once, they were quite the live show.
The whole of this album is incredible. The storytelling and the music is a perfect blend on every song. I often have this as my 'Drive over to work' CD. Can sing at the top of my lungs with no-one to scare :) My personal favourite is 'Hide in Your Shell' Just so, so good.
I can't believe this is 1974!!!
JUST FULL OF GOOSEBUMPS WHEN THAT DRUM COMES IN AT THE SECOND HALF….
JUST LIKE THE 1974 CONCERT IN OTTAWA, CANADA. ROCK ON 👊🖖
So happy you made it to these two tunes. Turn it up! Three hits and headphones. Go for it. Asylum and Hide in Your Shell doubleheader next ?!?!
Thank you Robin, Rudy is my favorite! L33, try listening School and Bloody Well Right together. Still need to hit "Hide in your Shell" "Asylum" and "If Everyone Was Listening" Thank You!
Rudy. What a great track from such an innovative group of talented musicians. Much under-rated and perhaps never enjoyed the success their skills deserved, but, the saving grace is that because of their uniqueness they were never copied. Thanks for sharing L33, keep well my man.
Rudy is simply perfect.
Rudy, is the best track on the album, and I first bought this album in 1976.
And the talking is the station announcer at Paddington Station in London.
One of the best song of the album which contains many others masterpieces.
Check the live version of it (Paris 79) with the black and white video of the train at the middle of the song, which enlarge the experience widely.
Saw them perform these two amazing songs on The Old Grey Whistle Test as the album came out. Oh man! Straight down to the record shop next day. Happy, happy days of ‘74.
Great album
The train announcement is for the rail line I use, London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads!
Breakfast in America was their “shift more units in America” album.
I love the 3 previous LP’s more than Breakfast..
My foster dad was a library director. Back in the late 70s when THIS was on the air (he considered THIS dumbed down even then) he said that we were headed to the post-literate era. Don't neglect "Hide In Your Shell" - my favorite track on the Album. In 73 this along with DSOTM & Steely Dan was the audio crack of the day. Well, there was far more of course. There are articles about how even though the tech for recording, production, etc. has massively improved, the actual dynamic (and I would argue creative) range of recorded music has flattened. All-the-time loud is not dynamic. Gotta have the intricate quiet bits, and they need to be seamlessly organically wrought IE, the SEVENTIES baby!
You really WANT to see the Live "Rudy" with the awesome TRAIN RIDE video..... TOO COOL
Back in the day when I was somewhat of an audioFile (thus the play on my screen name), I used Dreamer as one of my speaker evaluation songs. Rudy is also great, but pretty long. Supertramp is in my top 5 bands all time. Then again, sometimes they slip to #6. But they're great! I saw them in concert back in the day. It was one of the best sounding concerts I have been to.
I find that the combo of Dougie Thompson (bass) and Bob Siebenberg (drum) is really overlooked. They bring so much to the songs and are really tasteful players. To me they are as important as the keys or guitar!
"Rudy" is a sad but beautiful track, one of the greatest on this amazing album. I always figured that the entire song takes place in a big city, as well as in the mind and soul of the lost young man, or kid...But the final verse ("Now he's just come out /from/ the movie, numb of all the pain") also suggests that something has been edited out from the song: we never hear that he *entered* a movie theatre, although there could have been a verse saying that before the instrumental middle section of the song. Maybe they cut out two or three minutes due to the LP format? - though they could have fit it in even if the track had been ten minutes long.
I've known this album since I was ten years old or something. :)
The song Asylum from the album Crime of the Century, shows Rick's ability to express emotion that ends in desperation., Hope you react to it when you are able.
Rudy and School best songs ever!
And the title track. And Hide in your Shell!
Great album. Love Dreamer!
Love Supertramp and always recommend their Live in Paris album. All of the songs have so much more energy with the live performance that I sometimes find it hard to listen to the studio versions.
I have been fortunate enough to have seen Supertramp “The Tramp” Live 4 times. Their live shows are a spectacle and brilliant. Each member is a musical genius. Rick Davies is my favorite keyboards player and John Helliwell is favorite Sax player. He is a blast to watch live. The bass and drummer are awesome and Roger’s guitars are superb. The only live show I put above Supertramp is Pink Floyd, who I have seen 4 times.
Love both of these. Hide in Your Shell another great one
Two great songs and great reaction
Asylum!!!!!
try the studio version of child of vision
Magic Lee. Rely on you to do the biz, my other favourite reactors are over-complicating with obscure stuff, rankings, guests etc. Did you not get the train sounds and station announcement? Dreamer was a good single, Rudy just a brilliant composition!
Perhaps it gave you "deja vu"; hearing, seeing, or experiencing something new but oddly familiar.
Never thought of Supertramp as prog. On their most adventurous pieces, it's art-rock at its best. Rudy is the best piece on Crime of the Century, which itself is their masterpiece. Davies brought a mix of Elton/Procol Harum feel, whereas Hodgson was folkier, some of his songs have an early Cat Stevens feel to them (Easy Does It, Sister Moonshine, Give a Little Bit, Even in The Quietest Moments)...
Two songs new to me, from earlier Supertramp. Interesting…
Yes, I definitely recommend listening to "Bloody Well Right" again, but particularly if you're doing it on your own, consider listening to "School" and just letting it segue... the songs were basically designed that way, and perhaps the thematic connection will help sell the song better. And if it doesn't, well, you'll know you tried. ;-]
Cheers! ;-]
❤❤❤❤
I said it before, and I'll say it again LOL.... check out Supertramps's first two albums, and you'll really hear their progression. Also, relisten to School\Bloody Well Right, as those two songs play together as two parts of the intro story. I do like how you are taking to this band, one of my favs (and the Crime of the Cenbtury album is a true complete masterpiece)
Rudy is the greatest song Rick Davies ever wrote. It's a masterpiece.
Crime of the Centiry is a fabulous album! Just pure musicianship, and doesn't have the overt commercial feel of "Breakfast In America", which admittedly is a good album, but to me, just had too many marketing execs hanging off it and smoothing over the tracks. Good for the band in terms of fame I guess.
I still say "Hide In Your Shell" and "Asylum" are the best tracks on the Crime of the Century album. 😊
cute kids rule! and supertramp well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think "Rudy is on a train to nowhere half way down the line." Is about going though life with ghe end of the line being death.
I know that it is like that but I have no idea how people can think that "Raining Again" or "Breakfast in America" is on this level or comes even close to it. I just don't get it.
Deja vu, maybe?
In my mind Crime of the Century is definitely the best Supertramp album.
Hi Lee … if you substitute sally for Rudy ..it’s my life story …
When you react to their masterpiece, "Fool's Overture", Please remember to react to the version on the Live Paris *album* (its on TH-cam). But don't react to the video of that concert. Fools Overture in concert has a better tempo in some movements (a little faster) than in the original studio version. It makes it more exciting in Paris. Also, on the vocal finále, it sounds better in Paris. I don't know if it was mic'd better or maybe the reverb was turned up a bit. Plus there is the audience appreciation for the Winston Churchill speech segment. But DONT watch the video of the concert! The live video version has circus on stage toward the end, and the big screen video doesn't match the song, either.(plus it was mixed years later.) It's just too distracting watching the stage actors' antics, for a first listen, imo. I have made this comment elsewhere about the Paris live album being better , and other people agreed; it's not just me.
Sounds like you were a smart kid.
So WTF happened?? 🤣🤣😜😜
Deja vu, perhaps, except in this case, it would be deja entendu.
after listening to this todays music is so so boring and repetative
I 1000000% agree my friend
It’s the tempo and rhythm changes that humans produce and need that is missing from computerized music of today.
@@jamesm.3967 could not agree more