The Best Ableton Foot Controller? - Morningstar MIDI for your DAW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- With full customizability, Morningstar MIDI controllers are the perfect foot controllers for controlling your DAW and music software. You decide what each switch controls and also have the freedom to add expression pedals. And of course, it can control your pedals and hardware simultaneously too. Visit us at www.morningstar.io
0:00 Introduction
0:50 MC8 in action
3:16 How to set it up
4:06 Navigation switches
4:11 Keystroke messages
5:07 MIDI Mapping
5:20 Scene Launch switch
5:59 Launch-Next-Scene switch
6:41 Enable/Disable clip or track switch
6:58 Session Record switch
7:30 Scene switches
7:42 Stop switch
8:00 Session/Arrangement view switch
8:08 Effect engage/bypass switches
8:26 Expression pedal (filter cutoff example)
9:00 Important Note
Ableton keyboard commands: www.ableton.com/en/manual/liv... - เพลง
How to enable 'Arm on Selection' for tracks if you don't have a MIDI keyboard or pad controller connected to Ableton: manuals.morningstar.io/mc-midi-controller/Ableton.645595137.html#Ableton-EnablingArmonSelectioninAbleton
i've been recording in Pro Tools a lot lately, and when i figured out i could do this with my MC6, suddenly tracking my parts got a lot easier and less frustrating... i could stay in my place, instrument in hand, and just hit STOP and then REC to do another take. other buttons (and long presses) create a new (or duplicate) playlist, turn click & pre-roll on/off, record enable the track, and Undo. it's been really relaxing and has helped my recording flow a lot.
I want to thank you so much for your helpful tutorials! This was a primary reason I bought the MC8: not only to control my midi-enabled guitar pedals but also because Morningstar has the best support in the world, not only helping you to understand the product deeply but also going above and beyond to inspire you to use the equipment to improve your workflow and creative ideas! I hit a bit of a wall with my MC8 while trying to record in Ableton before I stumbled upon this video. 😍🤯!!!
Morningstar Team ! You rules so much ! Amazing work ! Greeetings from France !
Really useful video, thanks. I recently bought the MC8 to use with Ableton and hadn’t figured out that it can send keystrokes... that’ll be a big help
So detailed! So passionate about your product! Thank you
YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST
this is amazing, your products are epic cant wait to try em.
Looks nice, I was looking at the AirStep and came across this video.
Exactly what I was looking for.
This is such a phenominal pedal. Just got mine and I am STOKED to start using it!
Incredible thank you!
Awesome thank you
I want to return my blackstar Live Logic 6 that I just purchased and buy this 😂. Thank you for the very informative video!
I did that 😂 now I have the MC6 !
Been doing this in Reaper, works perfectly!
Really enjoying my MC8. I need to figure out how to do this with Studio One 5! Maybe a tutorial in the future?
Hi! We don't own the Studio One Software and are not familiar with it. However, most DAWs and music software use MIDI mapping and respond to keystrokes, which is demonstrated in this video. The method is the same
Any way to get the "next scene name" to the controller? I would love to integrate the MC8 in my live setup to control the Mac in the back. The only thing - sometimes its unclear what scene comes next (in my case, a scene in the session view is a song) and setlists are (sometimes) rearranged in the last minute. So, like the Axe Fx integration, it would be KILLER to get the name of the next scene, depending on which scene is currently active. Possible? ...
Thanks for the great video. If I'm using MIDI map mode in Ableton to map Ableton controls to my MC6 Pro, does it matter which cc values I assign to each message/preset in the Morningstar editor?
It may or may not matter depending on the function you are trying to control. For eg some functions are enabled with values 64-127 and disabled with values 0-64.
Very helpful, although it skips over some details that would be helpful such as midi mapping and I'm not sure where to go to get that info.
We explained MIDI mapping at 5:07
Any plans for a similar video to control logic pro x? These tutorials are very helpful and I've learned quite a bit from them, but I am stuck in trying to get logic to respond to my MC6.
Hi. We use and love Logic too. Good idea, we have added this to our list of videos to make. But we still have a few more before we get to it. In the meanwhile if you need any help, please feel free to email us at help@morningstarfx.com
@@MorningstarEngineering Thanks for the response guys. Awaiting it. I'm waiting on a hologram microcosm in the mail so I'll wait till that comes before I start bothering you guys with questions hah
Thanks. Can you confirm that MC6 II can also be used in this way? And, where do we find a table of CCs for different functions on Ableton? Or are these just mapped on the fly when we program them? Thanks.
Yes. It works the same across all controllers except the MC8 can display more information on its larger screen. There are no fixed CCs for ableton. All are user defined via MIDI mapping.
Will it display the scene name on the controller.
Is it possible to use 2 units of the Morningstar MC8 simultaneously to control Ableton Live?
Hi. Yes, it is. We've done that before. They will appear as 2 different devices MCX and MCX #2. You can use each of them exactly as shown in this video.
Hi, the mute and rec switches configured like on the video but on my MC6 don't have any effect in live 11. Did I miss a step?
Hi. Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
Midi noob here. Q: Can you midi map and play guitar through a fx chain in Live - independently from playback?
Thinking of using Live as a multi effects pedalboard whilst triggering 'backing tracks' - performing songs solo.
Hi. Yes, you can definitely do that. Just MIDI map the Ableton effect controls you want to your desired switches on your Morningstar controller. You can have some switches for track control and others for effects control. Every switch is independent and can be set up to do whatever you want.
Can you please do a similar video for LOGIC?
Hi. We'd like to but we have a other videos in store on higher priority right now. Using it with Logic is very similar as shown in this video. It's all about MIDI mapping and keystroke commands. You should get it fairly easily. Not much different from MIDI mapping with a MIDI keyboard. Please feel free to email us at 'help@morningstarfx.com' too if you need further assistance.
Great video. I need a way to just select a scene but not launch it without using the scene up and down switches. Live situation I can’t see the laptop. So I want to name a switch the name of the scene. When I click it I only want it to select the scene but not launch it. I want to use the dedicated play button to launch scenes when ready. Is this possible? Thank you
Answering my own question I guess I could just launch scene but put a brief delay or pause then stop the scene. Then when band is ready launch again. Would be easier if ableton would just make it possible to just select the scene or launch the scene.
Hi! As a guitarist with only 2 hands i want to trigger the pads of a DrumRack in ableton. Is it possible with the Morningstar? and how? Thanks!!! Sarah from NL
Hi. Yes, you can do that by sending MIDI Note messages from your Morningstar Controller to Ableton. It will be like triggering the drum rack with a MIDI keyboard, but with your feet.
Can you download a preset for looping in Albeton live 11 or must you program it all
Hi Malcolm. As all switches on our controllers are full customizable, you will need to program each switch yourself and map it to your desired function.
how do you get the screen black with white letters?
Hi. From 3 August 2021, we moved to LCD screens with white backgrounds for the MC8. The Quality Control reject rate of the previous black ones was getting too high and we could not continue to use them. We changed all our product photos to reflect this change in color as well. Since then we've also had some customers ask how they can change their black screens to white (and vice versa). Both colors work great but the QC rejection rate was something we could no longer accept.
Can you explain me how you got Ableton to "auto arm selected tracks" ? I see that this is happening in your video but if I do it it won't work. I would love to use my MC8 with Ableton for looping. Help ;D
Hi. We mentioned in the video that you need to have a MIDI keyboard or pad controller connected for the tracks to auto arm.
@@MorningstarEngineering HIHO ... sorry, I saw it after I wrote this. Sadly it is not working for me. If I connect my Native Keyboard to the computer it changes nothing. :(
This is extremely sad cause the MC8 is just Wonderfull to control Ableton.
@@SebastianBogensperger Actually, there is a setting on Ableton to enable this. We have documented the steps here: morningstarengineering.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/MMS/pages/645595137/Ableton
@@MorningstarEngineering Thank you again for this advice. It works even on Ableton 11 with an Apple M1 Chip. Great!!!!!
Here is my current recording rig.
Guitar, into pedalboard with AmpSim pedal, into audio interface.
I want to perform live with backing tracks while i play my guitar and sing live. I imagine i can use this pedal to start the first launch scene, with a count-in via In Ear Monitoring, and just play along with myself pretty much. Would this possible with this MC8?
Hi! Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily.
I'm stuck at Midi mapping 5:54.
Ableton sees the Keystroke buttons but not the midi map ones. 😭😭
Note also that MC8 shows up as input and output device but noe as a control surface?
Hi. Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
Can I control midi (rack)guitarfx via midi cable simultaneously while controling ableton via usb cable?
Hi. Yes, you can. MIDI is sent simultaneously via our MIDI controllers' USB port and MIDI outputs. Use different MIDI channels to differentiate your hardware and software.
@@MorningstarEngineering thank you
can i use this with bigsby gamechanger pedal?
According to gamechanger's website, the bigsby has a 1/4 inch TRS expression output. That should work well with our controller. Ideally it should have a 10-25k ohm potentiometer but it is not stated. You may want to check with them. Please watch this video for more information about how to use an expression pedal: th-cam.com/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aXr5czyzuV8krW4E
I just got my MC8 but following this video tutorial cant use the keystrokes ! Why? There is a fix for this ??
Hi. You need to click on disconnect device on the Morningstar editor first before the keystroke commands will get sent. This is to ensure a smooth and uninterrupted editing experience.
@@MorningstarEngineering will try.. thanx for the reply!! Very happy with my MC8
@@MorningstarEngineering Wow.... this was a big deal. Just lost about 30 minutes :)
If I'm using an audio interface with MIDI already attached to computer, can I just send MIDI to the interface from the MC8 to control Ableton? Or does it have to be the USB from MC8?
You can connect to the interface so long as it also functions as a MIDI interface
@@MorningstarEngineering Thank you. My plan was to send MIDI out of the interface to the MC8 (in case I want to later have Ableton send CC messages to MC8) and then through my pedals and back to the interface for both programming the MC8 and controlling Ableton by foot. Any issues with that you think?
@@seandavidharris You can do that all just by connecting the MC8 with a single USB cable to your computer. You can relay MIDI from the USB port out through the MIDI outputs. You do not need the MIDI interface.
@@MorningstarEngineering I’m already using a Scarlett with Midi so would be easy to send it out of the MIDI Box back into the Scarlett. But this is good info thx. I kind of feel the 5-pin midi has a stronger connection in case I knock it or something during a gig
Hi,
I've setup my MC6 Pro exactly like this, but it's not responding in Ableton.
Any advice?
CC's are working but not keystrokes
Hi! Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily.
Can Ableton send Midi Clock Tempo to the Morningstar?
Yes, it can. We do that with Ableton and Logic. For Ableton you just need to enable 'Sync' in the top left corner.
where was this video before i purchased a boss fs6... I swear I was looking all around the internet for a smarter footswitch with key commands and everything. ugh
Why do you use those specific cc numbers for those particular commands? Why can you get away with eg using cc number 13 for multiple different commands, yet eg when it comes to selecting scenes 1-4 a different cc number is used for each one?
You can use any CC number you want as long as each switch sends a unique CC number. It does not matter because each number will be mapped to whatever function you want to control.
@@MorningstarEngineering great thanks so much
Is there a slower version of this video?? It feels very rushed...
Hi. You can set playback to 05x. If you need further assistance, please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily.