It’s the future, once you realize the Ax-FX, Kemper, Helix are really just software in a box, then a universal midi foot controller a laptop and an audio interface are all you really ever need to do anything audio... a powered speaker of some sort and you’re set for anything, this is the future... thanks...
@@kidthorazine But anything can fail. The beauty of a computer is that they are inexpensive enough to have a backup. Just for giggles, I recently installed Gig Performer and Guitar Rig 5 on my cheap Windows 10 Fusion5 tablet which is way under the recommended spec. It actually works beautifully. My latency is negligible (128 samples) and I can load up amp-sims with loads of FX whilst remaining in my comfort zone of
It's not quite that simple. For a casual player I would agree that the plug-in route is fine or a simple FX unit. Both have come a long way, especially in the last few years. That said, having a dedicated, purpose built and powerful hardware will offer several benefits. For one, much less latency, better tone and many more I/O options including live monitoring via headphones of the processed sound. Most modern FX boxes include a PC interface so you lose nothing but gain a lot- hence why they are costly. Also, you can go direct out to PA's or Studio Monitors and have convenient floor switching. My point is, the units you referenced are definitely not just software in a box. There are plug-ins that try to copy them and they sound good- but not quite the same (including feel, attack, latency, etc.) The future is already. Yes, the gap has gotten smaller but here but plug-ins and dedicated FX units as well as the actual Amps/Cabs they seek to imitate are three (3) different things. They offer three (3) different experiences and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Also, try playing some plug-ins through the powered speakers you mentioned- plug-ins that were made for headphones (as many are), and you probably won't be happy with what you hear. Also struggling to get PC's to play nice with your interface and DAW is another hassle that you don't have to deal with as much with the other options. I have a Boss Katana amp. It sounds great and via USB, I can control it via my PC and use headphones. I suppose that is a 4th type of solution.
Been gigging and studio recording with a similar setup for the past 12 years (MBP + Guitar Rig/TH-U + midi controller) Works great! Keyboardists use computers + virtual instruments in live performances all the time - why do guitarist think they are locked into using a modeling box and using a laptop would be unsuitable when it isn’t.
I like the clean look and the concept of never having to purchase another pedal. Would probably add a physical, stand-alone looper. One plus of using the computer, all settings can be backed up to the cloud. If, God forbid, your equipment is stolen, your settings would be safe.
@@mattsnyder4754 Or use a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI Foot controller with two implemented pedals www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fcb_1010.htm?ref=search_prv_7 and the software IK Multimedia Amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3.. they have a build in looper ! Works great!
I DIYed something similar for Guitar Rig : I simply took a keyboard and removed the unnessecary keys, and the software does the rest. For the Wah, I bought a expression pedal (20€) and a midi expression device from Audiofront (70€). All in all, it works great ! but not enough to bring it to gigs ... If you're curious, I used this on covers on my channel.
I did something similar with BIAS FX - with the Audiofront 4-input MIDI converter, I have a couple of generic footswitches hooked up to turn effects on an off, and M-Audio expression pedal to use as a wah or volume pedal. Just noodling around with it. Like Paul says, I'd have to overcome a certain amount of reluctance before I considered using it live. I'll be sure to check out your vids.
Great. I am putting together a similar setup. Got the Nektar Pacer (midi foot controller) and exploring plug ins. Any words of wisdom between Guitar Rig, BiAS FX, waves, others ? Thanks!
Or use a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI Foot controller with two implemented pedals www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fcb_1010.htm?ref=search_prv_7 and the software IK Multimedia Amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3.. they have a build in looper ! Works great!
I tried this before.... the main challenge are the volume levels and settings for home vs live environments. I play with monitors at reasonable levels, when I got to rehearsal, all my settings sound different when using a cabinet (unless you have specific settings and a consistent power amp, this is a lot of gear to drag around). I decided to use Bias for recording and practice at home and I use a pedaltrain mini+amp for band playing with the band.
Hey Paul, from the Meloaudio forums, in case you haven't noticed yet: Dear Customer， Thank you so much for your great appreciation on our product. Our engineers have recently developed a new update package. What's in the package: -Solving screen freeze problem on some batch of hardwares. -The EXP function was calibrated to meet most Exp pedals to reach from 0 to 127 output. -You'll be given more stable and smooth experience in use. -Note that no toggling function of the CC# commands availble in this mode. In most cases, the host software can receive and add toggling function. Please kindly download the installation package in the attachment to update the program, Have a nice day! MeloAudio
Will you consider posting another video when you explored using it on the iPad? It would be really helpful knowing the capabilities of this rig on an iPad.
What I love about using a rig like this live is the consistency of tone. It sounds the same every night and fits in my DJ bag. The audience doesn’t know or care where the sound comes from.
Thanks for this video, i always look forward to them! I teach guitar to a couple of fellas at work, my 17 year old and my 12 year old Niece. I try to teach the way you do, inspired by you i should say, thanks again!!!
Looks much like Line6 Amplifi FX100 but with need for external processing power and software. Actually i saw laptops on stage with the Prodigy and Kraftwerk, but never with live guitar players (though i heard about some who have to play with backing track and use automation for preset switching during songs). Maybe soon it will become new mainstream.
This is really the best way to go about a modern rig IMO. For a larger/more important gig or tour, I'd run the bias rack unit with the laptop as a backup. For a small show, I use a scarlet interface, but also run the balanced out from my wireless unit direct into the board as a backup. This way if the computer goes down, I can quickly unmute the channel and get back to playing. You lose some effects, but the show goes on!
Great video Paul. I've had a Midi Commander for a couple of years now and absolutely love it. The ability to store and access different sounds is great. It's easy to set up and use and, in my experience, pretty stable (only the occasional glitch but that's possibly me fault?). It may not be the best option for performing musicians but for bedroom players like me, it's a great option
To be fair, Paul, you could probably play through anything and sound good. You are an expert on the instrument and with the equipment. Thanks for the video, I learned a lot!
Or use a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI Foot controller with two implemented pedals www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fcb_1010.htm?ref=search_prv_7 and the software IK Multimedia Amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3.. they have a build in looper ! Works great!
Hello @@brunoCondor, do you know if the FCB1010 works well with the Amplitube 4 MIDI implementation? The MeloAudio MIDI Commander sends data that is not 100 % processed by Amplitube 4 resulting in the LED on the MIDI Cmmander being still on, while the effect is off in Amplitube 4... it's really annoying, I hope the FCB1010 works better with Amplitube 4.
@@davidbergewaytogo Yes ! It works perfect. No issues at all with amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3 .. You need of course a midi input. Behringer has that aslo .. sound card with midi port implemented. But for Amplitube.. use best there own midi i rig thing/
I have a friend who has a Kemper. I went to go see him and I took my electric. Man, it rocked then he told me what it cost and I wasn't surprised. On our way home, I told my wife I wanted one but it was out of our budget. I didn't have any of my equipment anymore which is a long story. A few months after the visit, I found Amplitube but I wasn't crazy about the boxed sound it had. A few months after that I found Neural DSP and I was hooked. I have the Soldano plug in and I love it. I downloaded Cakewalk and I love it also. I do miss an actual amp and pedals. If you are on a budget, there are great options and you don't have to go into debt to get great sound.
Great vid. I have the same setup using my ipad. I just raised the bar by adding Positive Grid RIFF. Runs seamless with Bias/Bias 2 etc... It's an audio interface dedicated to your guitar to run on Bias. It is amazing!
lol .. we started with the same Zoom 505 (2001) .. now I understand why I was caught by your videos since the day one.. i think because we got the same way of thinking and feeling things.. ! Thanks for all those nice moments Paul.
I'm leaning toward using Main Stage... Unless you're using a tube amp alone for tone...you can now just have a laptop and a line out to a PA speaker... simpler in many ways....and you can turn it into stereo rig too (from what I'm learning) and sound really full with multiple effects panned to either side on one guitar...
I use a Rocktron MIDI Mate for BIAS. It's been a great tool that has been working for me for many years with many different MIDI devices. I am very glad PC software has tapped into this long-standing functionality. Great vid!
Hi Paul. Love your channel and videos. I just received the MIDI Captain the other day and it is identical to your commander with a couple extra items. Same shape, window and exp pedal positions. Mine has really cool lights around the buttons that light up different colors so you can tell what is on and what is off. I also bought the expression pedal that is made by the same company and it works pretty good as well. I am using it to control a Mod Duo X from Mod Audio. You should look into that device next. It is an open source project and anyone can make a pedal that will reside inside the box's web browser interface. This is where you build any pedal board you want from hundreds of pedals, control voltage and midi devices. The MIDI Captain uses txt files for each preset and button, so you have to open them on a computer and change settings that then get saved back into the device. Still learning, but I really like getting rid of my bulky pedal board and pedals for a much smaller rig.
Great production quality and I'm happy more people are considering using digital pedals. I'm starting guitar and the convenience of using my iPad as a practice amp with loads of pedals is amazing
I really appreciate how you approached this topic. For myself personally, I have tried to use a computer for effects, virtual instruments, etc. and the results are undeniable, for the cost and space using a computer is objectively better, especially when considering that most pedals these days are digital effects anyway. That being said, being in front of a computer kills my attention span and creativity. I don't know if it's something with my generation having been raised with TH-cam, but I need to read real paper books, and I feel like I need real pedals and amps in front of me when I play. I can objectively say that computer technology is better (how can you beat having hundreds of full books in a small magazine sized package?), I just don't "like" it. I'm not happy playing through a computer, and I can't focus reading on a screen. Computers have their place, but for me personally, art is not one of them.
I'm the same way. The last thing I want when trying to unwind is my computer and the constant supply of endless distractions it could supply. I can sit in front my amp, pedals and looper and zone out for hours.
This is why I quite like the iPad. It’s powerful enough, is less distracting and the touch screen makes the setup much more physical. There aren’t quite as many options for plugins but between bias and ToneStack there is pretty much everything you need. One advantage is that most of the plugins are cheaper too so cost of entry is actually pretty low to at least give it a go. The main thing for me is getting the monitoring right, without good speakers virtual amps and effects are always going to sound terrible in comparison to the real thing.
mastermachetier yes, you can switch off speaker simulation in bias so as long as you got the levels right and go into an aux in or effects return then it should work. If it’s a decent speaker cab it should work well but I have had great results through even a small portable speaker.
Hey Paul, great vid!, I use BIAS and BIAS FX a lot, but I never can get a tight clean sound like yours, it's amazing!, could you tell us how do you use it?, input and output levels, maybe some EQ, etc...
_"I never can't get a tight clean sound like yours,..."_ . That's a double negative, which means you always get a a tight clean sound. It's analogous to saying, *I ain't got none brains.*
May be something with guitar and pickups. I struggle to get crisp clean sound on any guitar with humbuckers, but on classic style SSS strat it is fairly simple.
hi, please help! im considering using bias fx 2 for stage use as well but the latency is killing me. ive got the demo and set the audio device type to ASIO and it was way better but theres still a noticeable input lag. is it my audio interface? my pc is pretty beefy so i dont think thats the bottleneck. is the latency just something that will always be there? or is there something im missing?
While watching I couldn’t help but wonder what and how we will think of this video in five, or even ten, years. For me, the fewer things that get in the way of just me and my guitar the better. Saying that, I still want all the bells and whistles. Love your work Paul. Thanks!
MeloAudio MIDI Commander - Not a bad price! Bias FX - Totally good price for everything you get for it! RME Fireface USX - ..........
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It's important to note that MIDI integration is only available with the Pro version of BIAS FX. Which is of course the most expensive version. As for the MIDI controler, you should also check the Nektar Pacer. Awesome controler with more features.
Exactly my journey. After watching this video I downloaded the trial version of BIAS FX, and was wondering why I couldn't map MIDI with my Pacer. There seems to be 50 dollar discount for BIAS now, so very tempted. If you don't mind sharing, what is your experience with BIAS FX (or other guitar vsts) and Pacer ?
very timely. i have a fly gig next week. gonna take my mac pro running neural dsp, guitar rig and synths with a morningstar mc6 pro all brought together with gig performer.
I actually added another controller with some knobs and such that act as your normal pedal and amp knobs. That way it just feels completely like using a real amp + effects (plus I can actually reach my controls much easier!)
I like to use the AmpliTube software with an iRig interface in my iPad. Everything fits in your gig bag! Not used it for gigs but use a Line 6 amp purely because it’s an easy set up. All the sounds I need are progged in. I know the purists prefer analogue but most people can’t tell the difference in a live setting. For pure pleasure of playing at home I will use an Orange or Marshall analogue amp.
I just tried a similar type of rig, but more "everything in one package". A Helix, that was really fun and easy to learn. Great vid! You are a great inspiration!
Exactly in these days I was looking for a controller to do the same with Bias FX and the Mastermind LT was recommended to me. But this MIDI Commander has the same advantages and is half the price. Nice! Thank you for your video, it came perfect in time.
That is a great video. Can you post a follow-up for beginners who may want to try this? Specifically, how do you setup the computer to receive the guitar input, process it through the Bias FX you are using, and then send it back out. Is this done directly via Bias FX or do you need a DAW or other software running, etc.
Hello, thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. Love your tone and your playing! Just wonder if there is a reason why you pick the Midi Commander over Behringer FCB1010? Because FCB1010 do come with 2 expression paddles. Thank you.
I have trouble integrating and assimilating technology into instrumental music-making. It is true I haven't played guitar for long but I have played the violin and viola since I was three and I've been doing it professionally for 30 years now. There are no pedals, effects, amps, microphones or any of that stuff involved with playing fully acoustically, which is the only thing I've ever done. Now that I've begun playing electric guitar, I'm pretty lost with digital amps, computers, software, pedal-boards and anything more complicated than a one-channel tube amp with a couple of simple pedals in front of it, such as a tuning pedal and a boost. I believe it's far too easy to get too seduced in chasing tone through effects than through solid technique on an instrument.
FYI you can do all this on the iPad too. With the newly released iPads, just buy a USB B->USB C cable and you're good to go. Older iPads will require the camera connection kit. NVM he mentioned the iPad at the end of the video
I don’t hate it. I just love real amps, and I’m not at all done trying out the wonderful options in that universe. This is very practical for gigging. However, I’ve had some pretty grueling experiences with iPad controlled mixers. Brings me back to “the real deal”. So, there’s my back and forth on the matter.
Thanks again Paul! Learning a lot watching your channel. Could you please explain how would you connect an audio interface (or laptop maybe) to a real amp? There is no much info about this. Thank you!
There is something inside me that screams “must be analog!!!” However recently some of these software solutions have been catching my ear. Most of the complaints about using emulations are starting to disappear with modern gear and even if one didn’t want to dedicate their performance to software only I could see this being a perfect backup solution in case you show up to a gig and have some pedal issues(cables, power). Has happened to me before. Would have loved to switch to this instead of ripping my board apart frantically to get it working before the show.
The digital modelers are modern, and they're evolving to become viable options. This is a welcomed change. There are some limitations, speakers in front of your guitar create a feedback loop, and 80s hair metal used this frequently. When I record, I am far from my speakers and to get feedback I have to have the monitors quite loud. This might work with modelers, I would like to know more. The MIDI foot switches are ancient, mid 80s. I prefer the ART Ultrafoot for the 1-10 buttons, the channel up/down, the Mode & Bypass buttons, plus 2 expression controllers built into one single board. They're late 80s products, so no display screen. They were cheap back then, under $200 but modern MIDI foot switches have gotten quite expensive. Especially if you add two expression controllers. I do like all of the new boards, but I need that mode switch to get alternate functions for the 10 buttons. Those are my triggers for Rec/Play/Stop on the samplers, plus they bypass external effects. Still the cheapest, most capable board appears to be the Ultrafoot. Comments welcome!
I'm using iPad + Amplitube + Garage Band + IK Multimedia Blueboard.. I'm very satisfied with this setup, but I'm at the very beginning of learning guitar. Looking forward to your review of iPad possibilities, cause it looks to me people are underestimating the power + software what you have in iPads today. Would be super cool if you touch the recording part as well. Thanks a lot for this video, hope you will be exploring this topic more. I will likely never afford good Amp and pedal board for myself, not only because of money - but more because of space, easyness of move and neighbors :). So, iPad makes a lot of sense of making music to me.
I am also using the bias fx. I needed a midi pedal and I saw your video and ordered a midi commander. I wonder what model of expression pedal you are using. When I tried to search the web, I was wondering what expression pedal you used did not work. I wonder if the cable of the expression pedal is a TRS cable.
I like that you mention the pc/tablet has a more powerful processor than the pedals. I also like the amp/effect modelling displayed by Bias FX. Enjoyed the video
Very cool Paul, I have been using software setup for a few years now. My combo is amplitube 4 and irig blueboard midi pedal. It works well together. I think there is a lot you get for a price comapring to purchase all the gear or even kamper. A lot chaper and upgradable to go with the software route.
@@seekeyk i belive it would make a difference. I belive that quality of processing power as well as quality of your external audio card matter. However I never tried Ipad version, I would use ipad for travel gigs and mac for home studio paired with decent DAW like Logic pro.
I’ve been using a setup like this (and yours) for a few years now on my iPad with a Logitech iPad dock and a Behringer FCB1010 with an eProm chip. I use a Yamaha Bluetooth MIDI transmitter to control my iPad software (ToneStack) and it works SO WELL. Plus my rig can fit in a backpack.
I highly recommend it. You really can pack your whole gear in a gig bag and go to play a gig on a bicycle. I've had a ton of guitar gear and played a lot of gigs with many bands. But I have also been a sound engineer and that really changed the way I think about tone. Your amp sounds completely different under a microphone. That's why I sold my whole gear and bought Kemper but... after I tested TH-U I sold the Kemper. The Kemper was too heavy :-) My whole guitar gear, for now, is an iPad, a Mac, or an iPhone and a controller. I play in many styles and it sounds great, nobody can tell a difference.
grt I was also thinking that its a good choice. I was wondering if u can show ur setup in ur YT channel that would be amazing n also help us sharing ur expertise and experience...if possible
Im also thinking about using this set up for live gigs. So theoretically, all i would need is a standalone daw (in my case neural dsp), a midi footswitch and an audio interface right?
@@tenyasha4398 Not theoretically, but also practically. For now im using a iPhone with TH-U + iRig BlueBoard + iRig Pro I/O and my whole gear fits in my hand! The sound quality is superb. I am organizing a jam session on this solution and no one is complaining. You can listen to the effects here: th-cam.com/video/stZ-1UCtTTs/w-d-xo.html
My Fender Mustang IV with Fuse software does pretty much the same thing. Im guessing that Fender foot switch and Expression is actually a midi switch. If only I could play like Paul!
I'm only playing guitar to record some songs, so I'm not really a guitar player. But for the sheer amount of options, as well as the low cost of software like Guitar Rig 5, I immediately went in the direction of digital FX. The only pedal I have is a Zoom B3 (multi-effect bass pedal) for live gigs.
Thanks Paul. Just got my midi commander and had to rewatch this to figure out how to program it. MeloAudio's instructions are pretty lacking if your new to midi.
I personally don’t see myself replacing my guitar pedals with a midi controller and software. I like the ease of being able to make quick adjustments on each pedal when playing live. Making such adjustments on a software seems more cumbersome and too complicated.
in the midi commander, there is neither a guitar input nor a line output/xlr out except the only midi output jack... I do find out everybody is discussing it can work wid bis fx/kemper/axe fx etc but NONE explaining about the connections that where do I connect my guitar in or how do I get the signal out from midi out to mixer desk/pa system.....
I had a Zoom 9002 in the early 90s - it was the size of a pack of cigarettes and had openings to hook it onto your guitar strap or belt. Graduated to the 707. Right now I have my eye on the Line 6 HX effects. I've also tried using MIDI to remote control BIAS FX, but never got beyond basic noodling.
digital is good for practicing in the evening with an headphone.... but for me the real magic happens when i use my pedals and my tube amp.... cant explain why... its more an emotional thing for me that happens i guess.
@@Maranatha741 A real plus for your suggestion of the Irig (at least for the Irig 2) is that the cost is a fraction of the UCX. That's the way to go if you only need a guitar channel. I also use the USB port on my Katana amp as an interface.
I’ve been doing this for a few years, it works perfectly with the guitar alone, but when playing with a band it doesn’t sound that good, o don’t know why.
I like the small form factor and the unit seems well constructed. The price seems reasonable, too. I wish it offered a Bluetooth option for connection, in addition to the more conventional MIDI.
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It’s the future, once you realize the Ax-FX, Kemper, Helix are really just software in a box, then a universal midi foot controller a laptop and an audio interface are all you really ever need to do anything audio... a powered speaker of some sort and you’re set for anything, this is the future... thanks...
That's true, but if you are gigging there are major form factor and stability advantages to using a purpose built box like a Kemper.
@@kidthorazine
But anything can fail. The beauty of a computer is that they are inexpensive enough to have a backup.
Just for giggles, I recently installed Gig Performer and Guitar Rig 5 on my cheap Windows 10 Fusion5 tablet which is way under the recommended spec. It actually works beautifully. My latency is negligible (128 samples) and I can load up amp-sims with loads of FX whilst remaining in my comfort zone of
It's not quite that simple. For a casual player I would agree that the plug-in route is fine or a simple FX unit. Both have come a long way, especially in the last few years. That said, having a dedicated, purpose built and powerful hardware will offer several benefits. For one, much less latency, better tone and many more I/O options including live monitoring via headphones of the processed sound. Most modern FX boxes include a PC interface so you lose nothing but gain a lot- hence why they are costly. Also, you can go direct out to PA's or Studio Monitors and have convenient floor switching. My point is, the units you referenced are definitely not just software in a box. There are plug-ins that try to copy them and they sound good- but not quite the same (including feel, attack, latency, etc.) The future is already. Yes, the gap has gotten smaller but here but plug-ins and dedicated FX units as well as the actual Amps/Cabs they seek to imitate are three (3) different things. They offer three (3) different experiences and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Also, try playing some plug-ins through the powered speakers you mentioned- plug-ins that were made for headphones (as many are), and you probably won't be happy with what you hear. Also struggling to get PC's to play nice with your interface and DAW is another hassle that you don't have to deal with as much with the other options. I have a Boss Katana amp. It sounds great and via USB, I can control it via my PC and use headphones. I suppose that is a 4th type of solution.
Been gigging and studio recording with a similar setup for the past 12 years (MBP + Guitar Rig/TH-U + midi controller) Works great! Keyboardists use computers + virtual instruments in live performances all the time - why do guitarist think they are locked into using a modeling box and using a laptop would be unsuitable when it isn’t.
@@kidthorazine not really, they also collapse quite often
I like the clean look and the concept of never having to purchase another pedal. Would probably add a physical, stand-alone looper.
One plus of using the computer, all settings can be backed up to the cloud. If, God forbid, your equipment is stolen, your settings would be safe.
Good comment man
LOOK AT THIS GRAPH
You wouldn’t even need a looper. Free version of Ableton can do everything a looper can do.
@@mattsnyder4754 Or use a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI Foot controller with two implemented pedals www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fcb_1010.htm?ref=search_prv_7 and the software IK Multimedia Amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3.. they have a build in looper ! Works great!
You can see my video about some troubles with the Midi Commander here th-cam.com/video/j8fvcY3LObk/w-d-xo.html
This guy rules, his chops are just so clean.
Hey hey Paul u promised a demo with the iPad!!
I Didnt forget, and still waiting!
Pleeeeeease, thx!
Pretty please
You are like Obi-Wan Kenobi of the Guitar Universe! =D May the gain be with you!
I DIYed something similar for Guitar Rig : I simply took a keyboard and removed the unnessecary keys, and the software does the rest. For the Wah, I bought a expression pedal (20€) and a midi expression device from Audiofront (70€).
All in all, it works great ! but not enough to bring it to gigs ...
If you're curious, I used this on covers on my channel.
I did something similar with BIAS FX - with the Audiofront 4-input MIDI converter, I have a couple of generic footswitches hooked up to turn effects on an off, and M-Audio expression pedal to use as a wah or volume pedal. Just noodling around with it. Like Paul says, I'd have to overcome a certain amount of reluctance before I considered using it live. I'll be sure to check out your vids.
Great. I am putting together a similar setup. Got the Nektar Pacer (midi foot controller) and exploring plug ins. Any words of wisdom between Guitar Rig, BiAS FX, waves, others ? Thanks!
Or use a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI Foot controller with two implemented pedals www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fcb_1010.htm?ref=search_prv_7 and the software IK Multimedia Amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3.. they have a build in looper ! Works great!
I tried this before.... the main challenge are the volume levels and settings for home vs live environments. I play with monitors at reasonable levels, when I got to rehearsal, all my settings sound different when using a cabinet (unless you have specific settings and a consistent power amp, this is a lot of gear to drag around). I decided to use Bias for recording and practice at home and I use a pedaltrain mini+amp for band playing with the band.
Yes true
Hey Paul, from the Meloaudio forums, in case you haven't noticed yet:
Dear Customer，
Thank you so much for your great appreciation on our product.
Our engineers have recently developed a new update package.
What's in the package:
-Solving screen freeze problem on some batch of hardwares.
-The EXP function was calibrated to meet most Exp pedals to reach from 0 to 127 output.
-You'll be given more stable and smooth experience in use.
-Note that no toggling function of the CC# commands availble in this mode. In most cases, the host software can receive and add toggling function.
Please kindly download the installation package in the attachment to update the program,
Have a nice day!
MeloAudio
Beautifully shot. I don't even play the guitar, but I just like looking at you.
he is rather handsome
Can you Share your bias FX settings please ? 😁😁😁
It sounds so nice
Will you consider posting another video when you explored using it on the iPad? It would be really helpful knowing the capabilities of this rig on an iPad.
I second this, mostly because I literally just got it for iPhone and I’m struggling to use it live.
@@calebhendrix4664 You can see my video about some troubles with the Midi Commander here th-cam.com/video/j8fvcY3LObk/w-d-xo.html
What I love about using a rig like this live is the consistency of tone. It sounds the same every night and fits in my DJ bag. The audience doesn’t know or care where the sound comes from.
If you take Bias FX with you with a laptop or iPad, where would sound be coming from?
The fender headstock is in focus and you are in the background - speaks for your character and taste. Keep up the good work.
Can you control the Boss RC-505 loop station like start stop record overdub delete? Would appreciate your response
Thanks for this video, i always look forward to them! I teach guitar to a couple of fellas at work, my 17 year old and my 12 year old Niece.
I try to teach the way you do, inspired by you i should say, thanks again!!!
Wesley alan hahaha y’all even look alike a lol bit🤣
@@texmontana420 ...its called a "Tone Beard" bro😂
Looks much like Line6 Amplifi FX100 but with need for external processing power and software.
Actually i saw laptops on stage with the Prodigy and Kraftwerk, but never with live guitar players (though i heard about some who have to play with backing track and use automation for preset switching during songs). Maybe soon it will become new mainstream.
oh... the Zoom 505, also was my first multi-effect pedal!! :P
This is really the best way to go about a modern rig IMO. For a larger/more important gig or tour, I'd run the bias rack unit with the laptop as a backup. For a small show, I use a scarlet interface, but also run the balanced out from my wireless unit direct into the board as a backup. This way if the computer goes down, I can quickly unmute the channel and get back to playing. You lose some effects, but the show goes on!
Don't you just love how they start counting from 0?
Great video Paul. I've had a Midi Commander for a couple of years now and absolutely love it. The ability to store and access different sounds is great. It's easy to set up and use and, in my experience, pretty stable (only the occasional glitch but that's possibly me fault?). It may not be the best option for performing musicians but for bedroom players like me, it's a great option
the clarification on this is pure genius
To be fair, Paul, you could probably play through anything and sound good. You are an expert on the instrument and with the equipment. Thanks for the video, I learned a lot!
Man, you just read my mind!
Really interesting video! Have to explore a midi pedal. So many great sounds on your computer as you say 🤘🎸
Thanks Karl 🔥
Or use a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI Foot controller with two implemented pedals www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_fcb_1010.htm?ref=search_prv_7 and the software IK Multimedia Amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3.. they have a build in looper ! Works great!
Hello @@brunoCondor, do you know if the FCB1010 works well with the Amplitube 4 MIDI implementation? The MeloAudio MIDI Commander sends data that is not 100 % processed by Amplitube 4 resulting in the LED on the MIDI Cmmander being still on, while the effect is off in Amplitube 4... it's really annoying, I hope the FCB1010 works better with Amplitube 4.
@@davidbergewaytogo Yes ! It works perfect. No issues at all with amplitube 4 or Overloud TH3 .. You need of course a midi input. Behringer has that aslo .. sound card with midi port implemented. But for Amplitube.. use best there own midi i rig thing/
I have a friend who has a Kemper. I went to go see him and I took my electric. Man, it rocked then he told me what it cost and I wasn't surprised. On our way home, I told my wife I wanted one but it was out of our budget. I didn't have any of my equipment anymore which is a long story. A few months after the visit, I found Amplitube but I wasn't crazy about the boxed sound it had. A few months after that I found Neural DSP and I was hooked. I have the Soldano plug in and I love it. I downloaded Cakewalk and I love it also. I do miss an actual amp and pedals. If you are on a budget, there are great options and you don't have to go into debt to get great sound.
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Thanks Paul!
Great vid. I have the same setup using my ipad. I just raised the bar by adding Positive Grid RIFF. Runs seamless with Bias/Bias 2 etc... It's an audio interface dedicated to your guitar to run on Bias. It is amazing!
lol .. we started with the same Zoom 505 (2001) .. now I understand why I was caught by your videos since the day one.. i think because we got the same way of thinking and feeling things.. !
Thanks for all those nice moments Paul.
I'm leaning toward using Main Stage... Unless you're using a tube amp alone for tone...you can now just have a laptop and a line out to a PA speaker... simpler in many ways....and you can turn it into stereo rig too (from what I'm learning) and sound really full with multiple effects panned to either side on one guitar...
I use a Rocktron MIDI Mate for BIAS. It's been a great tool that has been working for me for many years with many different MIDI devices. I am very glad PC software has tapped into this long-standing functionality. Great vid!
Hi Paul. Love your channel and videos. I just received the MIDI Captain the other day and it is identical to your commander with a couple extra items. Same shape, window and exp pedal positions. Mine has really cool lights around the buttons that light up different colors so you can tell what is on and what is off. I also bought the expression pedal that is made by the same company and it works pretty good as well. I am using it to control a Mod Duo X from Mod Audio. You should look into that device next. It is an open source project and anyone can make a pedal that will reside inside the box's web browser interface. This is where you build any pedal board you want from hundreds of pedals, control voltage and midi devices. The MIDI Captain uses txt files for each preset and button, so you have to open them on a computer and change settings that then get saved back into the device. Still learning, but I really like getting rid of my bulky pedal board and pedals for a much smaller rig.
Great production quality and I'm happy more people are considering using digital pedals. I'm starting guitar and the convenience of using my iPad as a practice amp with loads of pedals is amazing
I really appreciate how you approached this topic. For myself personally, I have tried to use a computer for effects, virtual instruments, etc. and the results are undeniable, for the cost and space using a computer is objectively better, especially when considering that most pedals these days are digital effects anyway. That being said, being in front of a computer kills my attention span and creativity. I don't know if it's something with my generation having been raised with TH-cam, but I need to read real paper books, and I feel like I need real pedals and amps in front of me when I play. I can objectively say that computer technology is better (how can you beat having hundreds of full books in a small magazine sized package?), I just don't "like" it. I'm not happy playing through a computer, and I can't focus reading on a screen. Computers have their place, but for me personally, art is not one of them.
I'm the same way. The last thing I want when trying to unwind is my computer and the constant supply of endless distractions it could supply. I can sit in front my amp, pedals and looper and zone out for hours.
This is why I quite like the iPad. It’s powerful enough, is less distracting and the touch screen makes the setup much more physical. There aren’t quite as many options for plugins but between bias and ToneStack there is pretty much everything you need. One advantage is that most of the plugins are cheaper too so cost of entry is actually pretty low to at least give it a go. The main thing for me is getting the monitoring right, without good speakers virtual amps and effects are always going to sound terrible in comparison to the real thing.
Once you have created 3 or 4 pedal board setups I just shut the laptop and play tbh gives the same effect (at least for me)
T_Dogg can I hook this into my current amp for output ?
mastermachetier yes, you can switch off speaker simulation in bias so as long as you got the levels right and go into an aux in or effects return then it should work. If it’s a decent speaker cab it should work well but I have had great results through even a small portable speaker.
Ugh i love it dude❤️
The way you play the guitar is amazing! I hope your channel will continue to grow.
Kudos to you man👌🏻
Hey Paul, great vid!, I use BIAS and BIAS FX a lot, but I never can get a tight clean sound like yours, it's amazing!, could you tell us how do you use it?, input and output levels, maybe some EQ, etc...
And drivers as well!
_"I never can't get a tight clean sound like yours,..."_ . That's a double negative, which means you always get a a tight clean sound. It's analogous to saying, *I ain't got none brains.*
May be something with guitar and pickups. I struggle to get crisp clean sound on any guitar with humbuckers, but on classic style SSS strat it is fairly simple.
hi, please help! im considering using bias fx 2 for stage use as well but the latency is killing me. ive got the demo and set the audio device type to ASIO and it was way better but theres still a noticeable input lag. is it my audio interface? my pc is pretty beefy so i dont think thats the bottleneck. is the latency just something that will always be there? or is there something im missing?
jack o'lantern buffers buffers gotta lower buffers but not to much then it will crack up. Or is it the other way around?
While watching I couldn’t help but wonder what and how we will think of this video in five, or even ten, years.
For me, the fewer things that get in the way of just me and my guitar the better.
Saying that, I still want all the bells and whistles.
Love your work Paul.
Thanks!
Once again Paul, Thank you, your channel is one of the best quality channels on TH-cam! In my opinion
Recently acquired an Axe-Fx Ultra, and have been using BiasFX for awhile now. I'm sold. Must have IMO.
A year later - you should revisit this. The VSTs have evolved and so did the gear enabling VSTs live.
is it possible to use it with a MainStage? can you show, how to do it? i can't find out...
I don’t need it, I don’t need it, I don’t need it.... I NEED ITTTTTTTTTTT
Pinky up, Spongebob!
That didn't take long...........
You can see my video about some troubles with the Midi Commander here th-cam.com/video/j8fvcY3LObk/w-d-xo.html
MeloAudio MIDI Commander - Not a bad price!
Bias FX - Totally good price for everything you get for it!
RME Fireface USX - ..........
It's important to note that MIDI integration is only available with the Pro version of BIAS FX. Which is of course the most expensive version.
As for the MIDI controler, you should also check the Nektar Pacer. Awesome controler with more features.
Exactly my journey. After watching this video I downloaded the trial version of BIAS FX, and was wondering why I couldn't map MIDI with my Pacer. There seems to be 50 dollar discount for BIAS now, so very tempted. If you don't mind sharing, what is your experience with BIAS FX (or other guitar vsts) and Pacer ?
I had the kemper for a while with à remote i came back To a toneking amp nothing beats tube and à small good amp for warmth
I would bet my whole money that your sound with your amp doesnt sound even close to andy james' sounds with his kemper.
very timely. i have a fly gig next week. gonna take my mac pro running neural dsp, guitar rig and synths with a morningstar mc6 pro all brought together with gig performer.
I actually added another controller with some knobs and such that act as your normal pedal and amp knobs.
That way it just feels completely like using a real amp + effects (plus I can actually reach my controls much easier!)
You're using it live? i want to buy bias fx and controllers for studio recording and live uses (more studio work) so... what do u think¡?
Yup. Need one of these for my Axe-FX II. Going to happen. For sure. 150 bucks? SOLD!!
Can you do a vid using the midi commander to control a DAW for a live rig?
I like to use the AmpliTube software with an iRig interface in my iPad. Everything fits in your gig bag! Not used it for gigs but use a Line 6 amp purely because it’s an easy set up. All the sounds I need are progged in. I know the purists prefer analogue but most people can’t tell the difference in a live setting. For pure pleasure of playing at home I will use an Orange or Marshall analogue amp.
I just tried a similar type of rig, but more "everything in one package". A Helix, that was really fun and easy to learn.
Great vid! You are a great inspiration!
Exactly in these days I was looking for a controller to do the same with Bias FX and the Mastermind LT was recommended to me. But this MIDI Commander has the same advantages and is half the price. Nice! Thank you for your video, it came perfect in time.
That is a great video. Can you post a follow-up for beginners who may want to try this? Specifically, how do you setup the computer to receive the guitar input, process it through the Bias FX you are using, and then send it back out. Is this done directly via Bias FX or do you need a DAW or other software running, etc.
Hello, thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. Love your tone and your playing! Just wonder if there is a reason why you pick the Midi Commander over Behringer FCB1010? Because FCB1010 do come with 2 expression paddles. Thank you.
I have trouble integrating and assimilating technology into instrumental music-making. It is true I haven't played guitar for long but I have played the violin and viola since I was three and I've been doing it professionally for 30 years now. There are no pedals, effects, amps, microphones or any of that stuff involved with playing fully acoustically, which is the only thing I've ever done. Now that I've begun playing electric guitar, I'm pretty lost with digital amps, computers, software, pedal-boards and anything more complicated than a one-channel tube amp with a couple of simple pedals in front of it, such as a tuning pedal and a boost.
I believe it's far too easy to get too seduced in chasing tone through effects than through solid technique on an instrument.
I love working in the box. Tweak a preset until you're happy and then apply it to future recordings.
Dude your video editing is just as good as your guitar playing! I love your channel
FYI you can do all this on the iPad too. With the newly released iPads, just buy a USB B->USB C cable and you're good to go. Older iPads will require the camera connection kit.
NVM he mentioned the iPad at the end of the video
Great video David! I have been trying to figure out which route to go, digitally, for videos and maybe gigs. Very helpful!
I don’t hate it. I just love real amps, and I’m not at all done trying out the wonderful options in that universe. This is very practical for gigging. However, I’ve had some pretty grueling experiences with iPad controlled mixers. Brings me back to “the real deal”. So, there’s my back and forth on the matter.
Since you have an expression pedal with toe switch you could hook the switch to exp 2 and have a wah style on off footswitch
Thanks again Paul! Learning a lot watching your channel.
Could you please explain how would you connect an audio interface (or laptop maybe) to a real amp? There is no much info about this. Thank you!
There is something inside me that screams “must be analog!!!” However recently some of these software solutions have been catching my ear. Most of the complaints about using emulations are starting to disappear with modern gear and even if one didn’t want to dedicate their performance to software only I could see this being a perfect backup solution in case you show up to a gig and have some pedal issues(cables, power). Has happened to me before. Would have loved to switch to this instead of ripping my board apart frantically to get it working before the show.
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Hi Poul Davis.
I liked what you demonstrated with Midi C wow and the Reverb was brilliant. Nice Rig
LOVING THE MEZES
I've been looking for a controller for quite some time now. Thanks for the review, this helped alot....
Great tones Paul
Very clever bit of kit
Dammit I've been amassing a behemoth rig and agonizing as to moving it for gigs and this is the solution Time for a yard sale
The digital modelers are modern, and they're evolving to become viable options. This is a welcomed change. There are some limitations, speakers in front of your guitar create a feedback loop, and 80s hair metal used this frequently. When I record, I am far from my speakers and to get feedback I have to have the monitors quite loud. This might work with modelers, I would like to know more. The MIDI foot switches are ancient, mid 80s. I prefer the ART Ultrafoot for the 1-10 buttons, the channel up/down, the Mode & Bypass buttons, plus 2 expression controllers built into one single board. They're late 80s products, so no display screen. They were cheap back then, under $200 but modern MIDI foot switches have gotten quite expensive. Especially if you add two expression controllers. I do like all of the new boards, but I need that mode switch to get alternate functions for the 10 buttons. Those are my triggers for Rec/Play/Stop on the samplers, plus they bypass external effects. Still the cheapest, most capable board appears to be the Ultrafoot. Comments welcome!
I'm using iPad + Amplitube + Garage Band + IK Multimedia Blueboard.. I'm very satisfied with this setup, but I'm at the very beginning of learning guitar.
Looking forward to your review of iPad possibilities, cause it looks to me people are underestimating the power + software what you have in iPads today. Would be super cool if you touch the recording part as well.
Thanks a lot for this video, hope you will be exploring this topic more. I will likely never afford good Amp and pedal board for myself, not only because of money - but more because of space, easyness of move and neighbors :). So, iPad makes a lot of sense of making music to me.
The 505 was my first multi-fx as well!
Im on bias fx 2 now and amplitube. Wish i could get a kemper!
I am also using the bias fx.
I needed a midi pedal and I saw your video and ordered a midi commander.
I wonder what model of expression pedal you are using.
When I tried to search the web, I was wondering what expression pedal you used did not work.
I wonder if the cable of the expression pedal is a TRS cable.
I like that you mention the pc/tablet has a more powerful processor than the pedals. I also like the amp/effect modelling displayed by Bias FX. Enjoyed the video
Very cool Paul, I have been using software setup for a few years now. My combo is amplitube 4 and irig blueboard midi pedal. It works well together. I think there is a lot you get for a price comapring to purchase all the gear or even kamper. A lot chaper and upgradable to go with the software route.
That's also my setup on iPad.. but I'm always wondering should I switch to Mac, will it bring any difference. And so far my answer is no :)
@@seekeyk i belive it would make a difference. I belive that quality of processing power as well as quality of your external audio card matter. However I never tried Ipad version, I would use ipad for travel gigs and mac for home studio paired with decent DAW like Logic pro.
I’ve been using a setup like this (and yours) for a few years now on my iPad with a Logitech iPad dock and a Behringer FCB1010 with an eProm chip. I use a Yamaha Bluetooth MIDI transmitter to control my iPad software (ToneStack) and it works SO WELL. Plus my rig can fit in a backpack.
can i connect it to a Fender Mustang i V2?
Nice video!!! 🤘🏻 I nearly drown on coffee when you showed the ZOOM 505! It was my first pedal 15 years ago! 😆hahaha
I highly recommend it. You really can pack your whole gear in a gig bag and go to play a gig on a bicycle.
I've had a ton of guitar gear and played a lot of gigs with many bands. But I have also been a sound engineer and that really changed the way I think about tone. Your amp sounds completely different under a microphone.
That's why I sold my whole gear and bought Kemper but... after I tested TH-U I sold the Kemper. The Kemper was too heavy :-) My whole guitar gear, for now, is an iPad, a Mac, or an iPhone and a controller. I play in many styles and it sounds great, nobody can tell a difference.
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I was also thinking that its a good choice.
I was wondering if u can show ur setup in ur YT channel that would be amazing n also help us sharing ur expertise and experience...if possible
@@subhankarsinha118 My whole gear is Harley Benton MP500 + iPhone/Mac/iPad + THU + Alto TS308. Thats all.
@@JakubPiotrGolebiowski thanks for replying
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Im also thinking about using this set up for live gigs. So theoretically, all i would need is a standalone daw (in my case neural dsp), a midi footswitch and an audio interface right?
@@tenyasha4398 Not theoretically, but also practically. For now im using a iPhone with TH-U + iRig BlueBoard + iRig Pro I/O and my whole gear fits in my hand! The sound quality is superb. I am organizing a jam session on this solution and no one is complaining. You can listen to the effects here: th-cam.com/video/stZ-1UCtTTs/w-d-xo.html
Super helpful! Thanks for another great instructional vid.
My Fender Mustang IV with Fuse software does pretty much the same thing. Im guessing that Fender foot switch and Expression is actually a midi switch. If only I could play like Paul!
I'm only playing guitar to record some songs, so I'm not really a guitar player. But for the sheer amount of options, as well as the low cost of software like Guitar Rig 5, I immediately went in the direction of digital FX. The only pedal I have is a Zoom B3 (multi-effect bass pedal) for live gigs.
Very nicely presented thanks 👍
Thanks Paul. Just got my midi commander and had to rewatch this to figure out how to program it. MeloAudio's instructions are pretty lacking if your new to midi.
Yeah do a review with this foot controller using positive grid apps on an iPad please I’m interested in doing the same thing.
I use this with iPad for 3 years and I’ve got no regrets
I personally don’t see myself replacing my guitar pedals with a midi controller and software. I like the ease of being able to make quick adjustments on each pedal when playing live. Making such adjustments on a software seems more cumbersome and too complicated.
holy shit. that thing sounds insane
Hey Paul! If you ever do perform with this setup, please post a video.
good stuff as always
with a decent set of speakers this could be such a great bedroom setup.
I have been looking for something like this!!
in the midi commander, there is neither a guitar input nor a line output/xlr out except the only midi output jack... I do find out everybody is discussing it can work wid bis fx/kemper/axe fx etc but NONE explaining about the connections that where do I connect my guitar in or how do I get the signal out from midi out to mixer desk/pa system.....
Great for practising, but you just can’t beat that array of pedals going into a nice tube amp. No screen required!
Lol I love how many people started on the Zoom 505... I still have mine
I had a Zoom 9002 in the early 90s - it was the size of a pack of cigarettes and had openings to hook it onto your guitar strap or belt. Graduated to the 707. Right now I have my eye on the Line 6 HX effects. I've also tried using MIDI to remote control BIAS FX, but never got beyond basic noodling.
digital is good for practicing in the evening with an headphone.... but for me the real magic happens when i use my pedals and my tube amp.... cant explain why... its more an emotional thing for me that happens i guess.
I love it man.
Yes, please do the iPad and play through an amp. That would be epic.
What about the interface required to hook up the guitar?
He links to an RME Fireface UCX. Expensive, but it does have a lot of channels.
You can use irig products also.
@@Maranatha741 A real plus for your suggestion of the Irig (at least for the Irig 2) is that the cost is a fraction of the UCX. That's the way to go if you only need a guitar channel. I also use the USB port on my Katana amp as an interface.
I’ve been doing this for a few years, it works perfectly with the guitar alone, but when playing with a band it doesn’t sound that good, o don’t know why.
I like the small form factor and the unit seems well constructed. The price seems reasonable, too. I wish it offered a Bluetooth option for connection, in addition to the more conventional MIDI.