OK guys, after doing some research it looks like this rod was a limited run from Kuying. So it doesnt appear to be available anymore :( But... if enough of you email them and show theres demand for it im sure they can be persuaded to make more. If they do Im definitely buying a couple more!
Actually very interesting. When it seems like everyone else out there is going bigger and bigger your going the opposite direction and trying to fish for pan fish with a bait casting set up. I really like your reel reviews and shoot outs and so I watch all your vids now. Keep up the great work.
Build your own rod u can make them anyway u want. I started about a year ago and don't regret the investment, since I can create rods to any specific length or weight I want or need
I've used those tiny 1/64 trout magnet jigs for trout and I was able to cast quite a distance with them, long enough for me to reach the stock trout in a pond. However, I also used them in conjunction with a float that probably added a couple more grams of weight into the setup. Sometimes that is all the trout wanted and I slayed trout with that setup!
Hi, Thomas here from the Netherlands. First of all, thank you for thorough research on the bfs subject. The time and resources you have spent are impressive. Nice objective videos accompanied by a calm and soothing voice have kept me quite entertained during my vacation. After seeing most of the 'ultimate series' I realised you opened the door for something I ran into about 25 years ago; How to cast something really light for a good distance. Back than, at the age of 12/14, I simply gave up and moved on. My dream was to cast only a maggot on a hook for about 30 foot. Unrealistic of course but I was young... After recemtly purchasing a cheap okuma reel and and a cheap broomstick like (25-50gr. rated) rod for a fishingtrip with my flyfishing buddy and our sons, I hated the lack of sensitivity and dove into the rabbitshole of baitcasting. Here we are, 4 months later, I now own 4 new rods and 3 new reels: Ultimate clever jerkrod 190cm 25-50gr., Tsurinoya Elite 3 4-16gr. and the Kuying ttc602ul and ttc510s. For the reels: Okuma tormenta, Tsurinoya Darkwolf and the Daiwa 20 Alphas air tw. Yes, a lot of money was spent, it gives me a nice range of possibilties to cast whatever I want. Anyway, your channel (and bcsg's) has been very helpfull to getting a shortcut to the best stuff available and killing my time during the holidays ! I agreed with myself to be satisfied with the combo's I have and stop watching your videos to avoid total bankruptcy. One thing I would like to criticisize is the amount of commercials, it is a bit much. Anyway, thanks for your work, you helped me a good bit !!
Ps. In the world of flyfishing you can find tiny clips for quick excange of flies without adding much weight. These could work well with troutmagnets 😉
This is fascinating - last weekend I was out chasing rainbows with really small spinner type lures - and having watched this video I decided to weigh the lures - between 0.054 and 0.075 grams - and for comparison some of the small streamers - 0.010 grams! These are cast on a fly-line but devastating for trout. The classic way to get really lightweight stuff out on spinning or casting gear is with a "bubble float" - a small plastic sphere half filled with water.
The S in the rod's abbreviation I think stand for Solid tip. It is common in "area trout" rods, it's very flexible and usually made to create sticks that can throw light lures but with a stronger backbone. I've got a Varivas ARD-510S-TTS that is scary thin.
Correct. It's so thin if you don't loosen your drag before you dismantle the two piece, you will splinter the tip since it's solid. Beautiful rod and beautiful of power for the job.
Dude...cant wait for the follow up video. Also want to see durability. I have been for a BFS setup for several years. My shimano casitas does fine with 1/8th oz. But I have to focus on thumb control. A 1/16th is do able for a very very short distance, but...most of the time it will bird nest. Can't wait to see your results. Give it a "reel test".
i will test my bfs setup with same weight and tell you the results later, i usually use heavier than 1 gr for distance and depth reach, but i got curious....
2 Weeks ago I caught a 32" Jack Crevalle at the base of the Texas City Dike with this rod mated to a Tranx 150 slinging an Unfair Lures Arrowhead. It took me 12-15 minutes to land him, but it was exhilarating as HELL!
Skip past to 3:30 to avoid blabbering crap. Get to the point faster please. Interesting rod and worth filtering through the video to get the info you need.
Hi just ran into this video by recommendation..and i'm glad. I'm also a fan of light lure fishing especially panfish and trout. My go to casting rod is also a Kuying Teton older version with a beautiful looking cork handle pairing with a Shimano Conquest BFS baitcaster. Yeah as you can see where i like to put most of my $$$ on, lol. Oh BTW my 3 years old Kuying was $70...guess it's popular now so price accordingly. Thanks for showing!
Thank you for your reviews; I very much enjoy learning more about BFS. I purchased the rod based on your review and having trouble connecting the two sections. I can’t get the two ends to fully seat … the two beads just above the connecting sections do not come together- is that normal? Thanks in advance for advice you can offer
OK... I got the Teton TTC632 UL rod and it's a beauty! What were the two small (about 3/4" x 4") neoprene straps with a slit near one end and velcro closures? The assumption is they're for securing the two rod halves, but that wouldn't explain the slits....
I'm big into finesse, but i do jdm spinning with PE, etc. Why not use spinning? I have not bought any BFS gear... but I drool over the Shimano BFS reels.
Subscribed. With my spinning setup including 2 lbs fluoro, I can get the TM about 50 feet. Wating to see how many percent of that distance a maxed out BFS can cast. My thought is that your rod is not the limitation but your reels. I take all rod ratings with a large grain of salt - meaning all UL rods can cast TM just fine even if they are not rated that low. The key is how fast I swing the rod - all UL rods will load up if you cast it quickly enough even without any lure on it. The mass of the rod itself (blank, guide, thrad, finish) is enough to loard any UL rod I have ever tried. It's a matter of physics. You have an excellent channel.
Thanks for giving me a target of 50 feet! Nice to know what an ultralight spinning outfit can do with the trout magnet. Yes I have a hunch the Revo Ltx is going to struggle but you never know until you find out. I do have an ultralight spool for my Aldebaran waiting in the wings that Im going to be using after the Revo to see if theres a difference.
My KTF wiffle spooled Daiwa Presso, tdz line guide, ZPI hybrids, lighter inductor cup spring to get the cup in the mags quicker and hold it there slightly longer (important when casting extremely light lures) with a custom made cup that's thinner and shorter so once it pulls back the mags have less grab on it. This reel on a custom made rod with 2lb mono will cast 2x #5 split shot (0.15g each so 0.3 gram total) as well as any ultra light spinner reel, realisticly I can cast those two split shit about 45 to 50 feet and that's on a 6 foot rod, if that rod was 6'6 it would cast that same weight around 20 foot further. Now this is a highly specialized reel with some very custom parts that are one offs (the inductor cup) but im pretty sure it owns the lowest lure weight possible record
I just got a Major Craft Benkei BIC-652UL/BF and this thing is very stiff, very disappointed I wish I didn’t have to find this out by purchasing one, thanks for the reviews you do always sir.
Rod looks good. If I can cast those same trout magnets with an xf50 + 4'6" micro series, I think you should be able to do it with the BF8 and that kuyung Teton. Now I am not getting these to cast really far or anything, and it can be a bit of a challenge, compensating by changing how you release during casting. That said, I have still been able to catch fish with the short distance I can cast them. I'd probably get a little more distance with a longer rod, or a rod that has a better noodle whip bend. I'm thinking, I oughta try trout magnets with the Revo BF7. Haven't done it yet, but I have thrown 1/32 oz jig + curl tail, and some light spoons on it.
I have a rooster tail 1/16oz and 1/24oz lures I like to use. They work great! Rods I use medium light Zodias. I like med light over just light because there's some pretty hefty trout where I fish.
Made me push the button to get it, great informative video! I agree with what you said about the price, I have a Japanese Ajing spinning rod with these specs and insanely thin rod tip and it costs 6 times the price 😅
I'm thinking it can't be done- that light a lure with a baitcaster. Limitation would seem to be the reel- overcoming angular momentum forces required to get the spool moving.
I know this is a little bit of a late comment but, have you ever considerd haveing a custom rod builder convert a light fly rod and covert it to conventional? I biuld and 11 ft lamiglas gsb 1321m this winter as little project and after seeing what it takes to actually build a rod it doesnt seem that hard and ,it might be really cool expirement to try And quench your BFS madness!
Well my plan before I started this channel was to buy some high end XUL rated JDM spinning rod and have a custom builder make me a bfs rod out of that. Luckily I saw this Teton and it was really cheap(relatively) for such an extreme rated rod. 11 foot is a bit extreme lol.. this will pull double duty as a creek fishing rod too.
in my country malaysia, most of the finesse angler uses teton but not one of them have the version you have😲😲 the lightest i saw is 2-4lb approx 1/16oz but its cool to see that rod hopefully the rod can cast the chick magnet 😏🤣🤣 btw... why take so long to upload a video man... i miss ya and this whole week i dont know what to do anymore😔😢😂😂
What an informative video. On the las couple of weeks I have been looking for a ultralight baitcasting rod for trout fishing and today I found your awesome video. I actually found the teton on ebay, but I didn't ordered it because it takes a very long time to be delivered. So I didn't. Any suggestion fir a good rod I mistly be tossing spoons and crankbaits. Thanks a lot.
great review cant wait to see the on the water results, I seen the phantom has a shallow spool out just wondering if it would make a budget friendly light lure reel for us broke folks. tight lines D.C
no but tackle tour did a comparison between micros vs non micro guides a few years ago, i forget their results though on casting. I do remember they said hooksets were more instant with micros
I fish with micro lures using a spinning rod, Savage gear micro game rod 6ft. 0-2g using regular 0.2 & 0.4 & 0.7 (Jig Head) of a gram lures I use is called Crazy Fish Allure 1.1 inch & Crazy Fish Nimble 1.2 inch for Brown Trout & Perch in the UK I do have a BFS Set but it can't handle that size Jig Head)
Kuying consider as high end rod maker and quite expensive for me...btw that kuying teton has smaller diameter because has lower poundage spec... please try search for kanicen nix brand and test it...
I've been actually eying the spin version of this rod for a while because I'm curious about its power in the tip and butt. Would you be willing to load it with 8 ounces of weight suspended and show how it bends? I'm wondering about its lower half power. I am sure that the tip is very soft. And is it X-fast, fast, or mod fast action per your experience. Again, glad to have discovered your channel. Excellent stuff.
Not at all forcing you to but 2 lbs requires a drag of about 8 oz to be 1/4 of the lb test. If this rod can't take 8 oz lift, then it will break regularly by most users. I'd actually bet that it can lift 1 lbs without breaking...:) @@THEREELTEST
I regularly fish 1g lures and jig flies on a UL spinning outfit - what is the advantage of bait finesse vs a spinning reel (which is cheaper, casts further and easier)? Or is it just a personal preferance thing? I do use a baitcaster for 5-25g or so.
@@vire559 ta! Yes lighter for sure. I use a rod rated down to 0.5g but you still use a 500 size fixed spool which is probably a bit heavier than a light bfs.
So I love Bass fishing but I also enjoy ultra light for Blue gills. Do you think this pole would be over kill for blue gills and would it be strong enough. Love 4 lb test on ultra lite
That is really insane figures.... I went and bought one... The V2 with the longer handle... 😜. Now just waiting for the Lockdown Movement Controls to be lifted 😁
I love what your trying to accomplish but casting accuracy is going to be the hardest part. I just got a Kuying Teton SUL spinning rod for Trout Magnets. It's rated .8 - 3 g and handles them pretty well. As a hardcore UL guy, I sure hope you succeed doing it with a baitcaster.
I cannot find this rod on Aliexpress. Just got to use my Proflex 2 today and I am hooked on BFS. I think my next step will be a Major Craft Corzza if they ever come in stock again... Would also like the Teton 6'6" Light, but they are more of a moderate/moderate fast compared to the Proflex. I think the Major Craft rods are even faster, right???
@Free Hooksets See I didn't realize the Major Craft rods had that solid tip. So far I really like my Proflex 2, but DAMN that tip section scares me. They make a higher end Agile and Elite 2, but they are over $100. I only paid like $70 for mine, just hope I don't ruin it by breaking that tip. It has to be thinner than a pencil lead, for real. So far I can cast 1/8 FAR and 1/16 pretty good, with 8lb braid on a DIY Honeycomb spool for Zillion SV TW.
Daniel Dean I have the Proflex 2 and the Dexterity in 6’3” UL and the Kuying Tetons 6’6” L, 6’3” UL 5’2” SUL and 2 Major Crafts Benkei Rods 6,7”L, 6’5”UL. Like you know the Proflex is an extra fast very light tip, the Dexterity is a moderate fast ultralight rod that cast great down to 1.6 grams with ease, the Tetons are great rods and are my favorites the L is moderate fast the ul is a fast tip and the SUL is model almost noodle rod but with a little more backbone than most noodle rods. The MC Benkei’s are fast tip bass rods with loads of backbone and I feel they are more Light and Medium Light than UL and L
What you need is a DISPOSABLE BIO DEGRADABLE food based sinker that dissolves instantly when it comes in contact with water. Hey they said man would never fly. lol
@@THEREELTEST true but what happens when you hook an actual 5lb fish lol I really would like to get into bfs but I dont really know where I'd be able to fish it bc the cover around me the open water is very minimal to say the least lol
Sorry to disappoint you but have seen many crazy Malaysian guys reeling in 10kg fish and more with that rod I myself bought 5 of these 1 failed so I guess if they check their quality control a bit better then they will surely boss around that price range.
@@thedarkside3178 If what you said is true, that means the rod is underrated and not labeled as what it should be. No wonder my Teton doesn't break during overhead cast using 20is gram jig. That explain it used Light Jigging blank.
THE REEL TEST I think you can do it. I have 3 Kuying Teton rods, TTC662L, TTC632UL, TTC522SUL and they are worth every penny. I have my Daiwa SS Air on the SUL rod (rated .8g -3g) and I have casted a 1.5g jig with good results. But usually stay with 2g and above with my Bfs setups.
i was lucky to get 15-20 foot with a slow deliberate casting stroke and the accuracy was still bad. Id be happy to get 30 foot because I plan to be wading
THE REEL TEST your right accuracy is what’s most important and that’s all about the rod power and action syncing up with the lure weight. Cast distance is only affected a little. Spinning or carrying, you are only going to cast something that light but so far.
You have to pay attention to line diameter and the amount of line you put on the spool. I managed to cast 1.8 jig with 50 meter 0.18mm line today. Spool setting just to eliminate knocking sound and brake at 4 with Trout One AS B66UL-F 2-5lb 1.5 - 6g rod
I have been using most of the kuying teton UL rod to the max testing it with Grouper many other strong fishes. Lately bought this Green Teton SUL and it broke 2 times at the lower section right beside the guide and not the top part. It very clear there's defect in blank design lower section... Rod looks cool, light super ultralight but not worthy at all
@@THEREELTEST Dude You stay up late. Thanks I checked on digitaka and although they show Abu Garcia on the site when you click on it it comes back with (No Items) Thats okay I have another nightmare right now. I'm trying to order that Kast King 9 3 1 reel. Amazon wants me to join Prime or pay shipping. Ebay list an old credit card from an old order that doesn't exist anymore and there is no option to put in my new card and Kast King web site says they take credit cards but only list Pay Pal in the checkout. Gonna worry about this on Monday and also the best rod for that reel for frogging. Thanks for your videos Man.
I dislike the line twist issues with spinning tackle that you encounter with spinning gear with certain presentations. If I can get away with casting gear, that’s my personal preference for that reason.
My point is buying specialized bfs gear like a wanna be Japanese angler is some scenester shit and is totally unnecessary. Thats why you cast the line, it allows you to make the lightest presentations. That’s my point.
theres no other baitcasting rod with specs close to this one. I already have several rods with 1/32-1/4 oz lure ratings, this rod is alot more radical than those
I just picked up the cheapO Shimano Sensilight. It was found at Sportsman's, after a google search. I stopped into a store I was driving by and BINGO, they had ONE casting rod. I took my Alderbaron off my Expride BFS, we will see how she works.
another BFS rod you may be interested in would be the majorcraft benkei BIC-65 UL / BF. handles lures from 1/32 - 1/4. fairly cheap too for a japanese rod at $100 or so. i have a few of the benkei rods and they are pretty nice. only downside i can see is they ultra micro line guides, at least on the spinning rod i have. makes tying on a leader almost impossible. www.majorcraft.co.jp/roditem/4353?lang=en
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OK guys, after doing some research it looks like this rod was a limited run from Kuying. So it doesnt appear to be available anymore :( But... if enough of you email them and show theres demand for it im sure they can be persuaded to make more. If they do Im definitely buying a couple more!
THE REEL TEST I did see it available on Kuying HK store but the price was $750, I assume this is Chinese Yuan ?
Yen is Japanese, China uses yuan
THE REEL TEST www.kuyinghk.com/catalog/rod/teton-510s/
THE REEL TEST sorry I knew that just miss typed it
I wanted one but they are out of stock i think...and instead i bought TTC522SUL model. It looks great and performs awesome.
Actually very interesting. When it seems like everyone else out there is going bigger and bigger your going the opposite direction and trying to fish for pan fish with a bait casting set up. I really like your reel reviews and shoot outs and so I watch all your vids now. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, I knew there were alot of people out there that wanted tests and reviews like this.. so Im doing them lol
@@THEREELTEST
Sir, i really appreciated your effort. Thanks a lot.
@@THEREELTEST I appreciate your test & reviews/results as well... thanks again.
Спасибо за подробный обзор . Пришлось переводить субтитры . Таких обзоров на эти снасти подробных еще не видел .
Build your own rod u can make them anyway u want. I started about a year ago and don't regret the investment, since I can create rods to any specific length or weight I want or need
Yeah this is very true! Agreed on that 100%
I cant wait to see how this comes out.I have hit that wall also.Good luck my friend.
The lightest, most sensitive ultralight rods are Aijing or Mebaru rods from Tict, Olympic and Yamaga Blanks.....Most BFS rods are heavy in comparison.
I've used those tiny 1/64 trout magnet jigs for trout and I was able to cast quite a distance with them, long enough for me to reach the stock trout in a pond. However, I also used them in conjunction with a float that probably added a couple more grams of weight into the setup. Sometimes that is all the trout wanted and I slayed trout with that setup!
Favorite video yet!!! Thanks for the content!
Hi, Thomas here from the Netherlands.
First of all, thank you for thorough research on the bfs subject. The time and resources you have spent are impressive. Nice objective videos accompanied by a calm and soothing voice have kept me quite entertained during my vacation. After seeing most of the 'ultimate series' I realised you opened the door for something I ran into about 25 years ago; How to cast something really light for a good distance. Back than, at the age of 12/14, I simply gave up and moved on. My dream was to cast only a maggot on a hook for about 30 foot. Unrealistic of course but I was young...
After recemtly purchasing a cheap okuma reel and and a cheap broomstick like (25-50gr. rated) rod for a fishingtrip with my flyfishing buddy and our sons, I hated the lack of sensitivity and dove into the rabbitshole of baitcasting. Here we are, 4 months later, I now own 4 new rods and 3 new reels: Ultimate clever jerkrod 190cm 25-50gr., Tsurinoya Elite 3 4-16gr. and the Kuying ttc602ul and ttc510s. For the reels: Okuma tormenta, Tsurinoya Darkwolf and the Daiwa 20 Alphas air tw. Yes, a lot of money was spent, it gives me a nice range of possibilties to cast whatever I want. Anyway, your channel (and bcsg's) has been very helpfull to getting a shortcut to the best stuff available and killing my time during the holidays ! I agreed with myself to be satisfied with the combo's I have and stop watching your videos to avoid total bankruptcy.
One thing I would like to criticisize is the amount of commercials, it is a bit much.
Anyway, thanks for your work, you helped me a good bit !!
Ps. In the world of flyfishing you can find tiny clips for quick excange of flies without adding much weight. These could work well with troutmagnets 😉
This is fascinating - last weekend I was out chasing rainbows with really small spinner type lures - and having watched this video I decided to weigh the lures - between 0.054 and 0.075 grams - and for comparison some of the small streamers - 0.010 grams!
These are cast on a fly-line but devastating for trout.
The classic way to get really lightweight stuff out on spinning or casting gear is with a "bubble float" - a small plastic sphere half filled with water.
The S in the rod's abbreviation I think stand for Solid tip.
It is common in "area trout" rods, it's very flexible and usually made to create sticks that can throw light lures but with a stronger backbone. I've got a Varivas ARD-510S-TTS that is scary thin.
Correct. It's so thin if you don't loosen your drag before you dismantle the two piece, you will splinter the tip since it's solid. Beautiful rod and beautiful of power for the job.
Dude...cant wait for the follow up video. Also want to see durability. I have been for a BFS setup for several years. My shimano casitas does fine with 1/8th oz. But I have to focus on thumb control. A 1/16th is do able for a very very short distance, but...most of the time it will bird nest. Can't wait to see your results. Give it a "reel test".
kuying still sells these rods on their website, in Hong Kong $, they sell for $800 HKD, but its like $103 USD
i will test my bfs setup with same weight and tell you the results later, i usually use heavier than 1 gr for distance and depth reach, but i got curious....
If you haven't yet could you do a review of the bass pro shops crappie maxx baitcast rod its $30
The 6'6" version of the Teton is also really nice, light and smooth taper. Maybe not a true 3g or less rod, but still quite light.
2 Weeks ago I caught a 32" Jack Crevalle at the base of the Texas City Dike with this rod mated to a Tranx 150 slinging an Unfair Lures Arrowhead. It took me 12-15 minutes to land him, but it was exhilarating as HELL!
Skip past to 3:30 to avoid blabbering crap. Get to the point faster please.
Interesting rod and worth filtering through the video to get the info you need.
Oskar b thanks
Looks awesome!
Hi just ran into this video by recommendation..and i'm glad. I'm also a fan of light lure fishing especially panfish and trout. My go to casting rod is also a Kuying Teton older version with a beautiful looking cork handle pairing with a Shimano Conquest BFS baitcaster. Yeah as you can see where i like to put most of my $$$ on, lol. Oh BTW my 3 years old Kuying was $70...guess it's popular now so price accordingly. Thanks for showing!
just ordered the Daiwa Presso-Ltd AGS 63ML!! can't wait to try it out. now i got to pick out a new reel.🙂
Thank you for your reviews; I very much enjoy learning more about BFS. I purchased the rod based on your review and having trouble connecting the two sections. I can’t get the two ends to fully seat … the two beads just above the connecting sections do not come together- is that normal? Thanks in advance for advice you can offer
OK... I got the Teton TTC632 UL rod and it's a beauty! What were the two small (about 3/4" x 4") neoprene straps with a slit near one end and velcro closures? The assumption is they're for securing the two rod halves, but that wouldn't explain the slits....
I'm big into finesse, but i do jdm spinning with PE, etc. Why not use spinning? I have not bought any BFS gear... but I drool over the Shimano BFS reels.
Subscribed. With my spinning setup including 2 lbs fluoro, I can get the TM about 50 feet. Wating to see how many percent of that distance a maxed out BFS can cast. My thought is that your rod is not the limitation but your reels. I take all rod ratings with a large grain of salt - meaning all UL rods can cast TM just fine even if they are not rated that low. The key is how fast I swing the rod - all UL rods will load up if you cast it quickly enough even without any lure on it. The mass of the rod itself (blank, guide, thrad, finish) is enough to loard any UL rod I have ever tried. It's a matter of physics. You have an excellent channel.
Thanks for giving me a target of 50 feet! Nice to know what an ultralight spinning outfit can do with the trout magnet. Yes I have a hunch the Revo Ltx is going to struggle but you never know until you find out. I do have an ultralight spool for my Aldebaran waiting in the wings that Im going to be using after the Revo to see if theres a difference.
Super. Thanks! @@THEREELTEST
My KTF wiffle spooled Daiwa Presso, tdz line guide, ZPI hybrids, lighter inductor cup spring to get the cup in the mags quicker and hold it there slightly longer (important when casting extremely light lures) with a custom made cup that's thinner and shorter so once it pulls back the mags have less grab on it.
This reel on a custom made rod with 2lb mono will cast 2x #5 split shot (0.15g each so 0.3 gram total) as well as any ultra light spinner reel, realisticly I can cast those two split shit about 45 to 50 feet and that's on a 6 foot rod, if that rod was 6'6 it would cast that same weight around 20 foot further.
Now this is a highly specialized reel with some very custom parts that are one offs (the inductor cup) but im pretty sure it owns the lowest lure weight possible record
I just got a Major Craft Benkei BIC-652UL/BF and this thing is very stiff, very disappointed I wish I didn’t have to find this out by purchasing one, thanks for the reviews you do always sir.
Rod looks good. If I can cast those same trout magnets with an xf50 + 4'6" micro series, I think you should be able to do it with the BF8 and that kuyung Teton. Now I am not getting these to cast really far or anything, and it can be a bit of a challenge, compensating by changing how you release during casting. That said, I have still been able to catch fish with the short distance I can cast them. I'd probably get a little more distance with a longer rod, or a rod that has a better noodle whip bend. I'm thinking, I oughta try trout magnets with the Revo BF7. Haven't done it yet, but I have thrown 1/32 oz jig + curl tail, and some light spoons on it.
I have a rooster tail 1/16oz and 1/24oz lures I like to use. They work great! Rods I use medium light Zodias. I like med light over just light because there's some pretty hefty trout where I fish.
The Daiwa alpha air stream custom 18 would match up perfectly colour wise and in general paired up with it
The best rod kuying teton..
Just gotten my TTS - 510S 1-3lbs test going to match with my stella 1000 for some field test
Is KASTKINGs BFS system with rod worth it, and what do you need to change to cast light sunfish lures
i heard that Tsurinoya had 1lb braided x 3 slick. Diameter 0.03mm.
named UTS CATANA 1lb. also can watch at youtube
I subscribed off of this video. I'm new to the whole BFS scene...✌🏾
Any chance you can tell me what spool you purchased for your aldebaran? or do we have to wait... thanks
you can probably figure it out because its the lightest spool made for it
@@THEREELTEST yep found it 👍
Made me push the button to get it, great informative video! I agree with what you said about the price, I have a Japanese Ajing spinning rod with these specs and insanely thin rod tip and it costs 6 times the price 😅
Yep, in the overall scheme of things this rod is a bargain. Ill be releasing a video soon about its first fish catches
@@THEREELTEST will definitely be staying tuned for it!😁😁
Hey. Please write down a video of the competition for the lure distance between daiwa 19 steez ct sv tw 700 and shimano aldebaran bfs 16
Please could you put a link on for the rod 👍🏻 can’t seem to find it 🤦🏻♂️👍🏻👍🏻
that teton rod is beautiful
I'm thinking it can't be done- that light a lure with a baitcaster. Limitation would seem to be the reel- overcoming angular momentum forces required to get the spool moving.
I have a tuned Aldebaran BFS waiting on the side lines :)
I have done it, real short but still fishable distances.
I do admire the spirit of the challenge and your willingness to give it your best shot and make the results public.
going to upload my first attempt tommorrow night lol
I know this is a little bit of a late comment but, have you ever considerd haveing a custom rod builder convert a light fly rod and covert it to conventional? I biuld and 11 ft lamiglas gsb 1321m this winter as little project and after seeing what it takes to actually build a rod it doesnt seem that hard and ,it might be really cool expirement to try And quench your BFS madness!
Well my plan before I started this channel was to buy some high end XUL rated JDM spinning rod and have a custom builder make me a bfs rod out of that. Luckily I saw this Teton and it was really cheap(relatively) for such an extreme rated rod. 11 foot is a bit extreme lol.. this will pull double duty as a creek fishing rod too.
in my country malaysia, most of the finesse angler uses teton
but not one of them have the version you have😲😲
the lightest i saw is 2-4lb approx 1/16oz
but its cool to see that rod
hopefully the rod can cast the chick magnet 😏🤣🤣
btw... why take so long to upload a video man...
i miss ya and this whole week i dont know what to do anymore😔😢😂😂
I work 50 hours a week at my regular job brother. And its been raining hard every weekend here.
THE REEL TEST owh its raining... no wonder....
dont worry i dont mad at you it just sucks to wait😂😂😂
be safe btw
I want to get one but can’t find anything about it, what’s the action of the rod, fast, moderate, or slow ?
how much weights the rod? Thx!
What an informative video. On the las couple of weeks I have been looking for a ultralight baitcasting rod for trout fishing and today I found your awesome video. I actually found the teton on ebay, but I didn't ordered it because it takes a very long time to be delivered. So I didn't. Any suggestion fir a good rod
I mistly be tossing spoons and crankbaits. Thanks a lot.
great review cant wait to see the on the water results, I seen the phantom has a shallow spool out just wondering if it would make a budget friendly light lure reel for us broke folks. tight lines D.C
Piscifun was supposed to send me that shallow spool for the phantom but instead I got 2 of a deeper spool lol. Ill get one eventualy.
The Tsurinoya xf50 is a cheap BFS reel for people on a budget. It's on amazon for 66$, and comes with a shallow spool.
Curious to know if you have tested how micro guides on rods effect casting distance as compared to normal line guides
no but tackle tour did a comparison between micros vs non micro guides a few years ago, i forget their results though on casting. I do remember they said hooksets were more instant with micros
I heard those tips tend to break easily, what is your experience?
I fish with micro lures using a spinning rod, Savage gear micro game rod 6ft. 0-2g using regular 0.2 & 0.4 & 0.7 (Jig Head) of a gram lures I use is called Crazy Fish Allure 1.1 inch & Crazy Fish Nimble 1.2 inch for Brown Trout & Perch in the UK I do have a BFS Set but it can't handle that size Jig Head)
KAWA Skyroad spinning casting versions high end good stuff
good stuff
Kuying consider as high end rod maker and quite expensive for me...btw that kuying teton has smaller diameter because has lower poundage spec... please try search for kanicen nix brand and test it...
I've been actually eying the spin version of this rod for a while because I'm curious about its power in the tip and butt. Would you be willing to load it with 8 ounces of weight suspended and show how it bends? I'm wondering about its lower half power. I am sure that the tip is very soft.
And is it X-fast, fast, or mod fast action per your experience. Again, glad to have discovered your channel. Excellent stuff.
Lol no way im loading this with 8 oz. I will try to show the taper once I take it out fishing though.
Not at all forcing you to but 2 lbs requires a drag of about 8 oz to be 1/4 of the lb test. If this rod can't take 8 oz lift, then it will break regularly by most users. I'd actually bet that it can lift 1 lbs without breaking...:) @@THEREELTEST
What rod do you have paired up with the Scorpion?
I'm getting one as well for my Calcutta conquest
Do you have video for this rod on field test?
I would say Kuying reached their over confident.
I regularly fish 1g lures and jig flies on a UL spinning outfit - what is the advantage of bait finesse vs a spinning reel (which is cheaper, casts further and easier)? Or is it just a personal preferance thing? I do use a baitcaster for 5-25g or so.
It's quicker and lighter than spinning
@@vire559 ta! Yes lighter for sure. I use a rod rated down to 0.5g but you still use a 500 size fixed spool which is probably a bit heavier than a light bfs.
How many guides do your rod have it said 11 kuying Teton ttc510s
So I love Bass fishing but I also enjoy ultra light for Blue gills. Do you think this pole would be over kill for blue gills and would it be strong enough. Love 4 lb test on ultra lite
Good question, Ill share my first fish catch on it with you guys.
That is really insane figures.... I went and bought one... The V2 with the longer handle... 😜. Now just waiting for the Lockdown Movement Controls to be lifted 😁
Thanks for sharing...I wish to have one
The new Teton has a longer handle nub, makes it more comfortable.
Ill check it out
Kuying Teton is what most people in Asia use now when it comes to BFS.
Yep, mark my words, in 15 years the Chinese will be dominating the market.
I love what your trying to accomplish but casting accuracy is going to be the hardest part. I just got a Kuying Teton SUL spinning rod for Trout Magnets. It's rated .8 - 3 g and handles them pretty well. As a hardcore UL guy, I sure hope you succeed doing it with a baitcaster.
Ron I uploaded the initial casting video already lol.. check it out
I cannot find this rod on Aliexpress. Just got to use my Proflex 2 today and I am hooked on BFS. I think my next step will be a Major Craft Corzza if they ever come in stock again... Would also like the Teton 6'6" Light, but they are more of a moderate/moderate fast compared to the Proflex. I think the Major Craft rods are even faster, right???
@Free Hooksets See I didn't realize the Major Craft rods had that solid tip. So far I really like my Proflex 2, but DAMN that tip section scares me. They make a higher end Agile and Elite 2, but they are over $100. I only paid like $70 for mine, just hope I don't ruin it by breaking that tip. It has to be thinner than a pencil lead, for real. So far I can cast 1/8 FAR and 1/16 pretty good, with 8lb braid on a DIY Honeycomb spool for Zillion SV TW.
i think they sold out, im sure they will be available sometime soon again. Ive got several MC bfs rods and the moderate fasts are closer to fast IMO
Daniel Dean I have the Proflex 2 and the Dexterity in 6’3” UL and the Kuying Tetons 6’6” L, 6’3” UL 5’2” SUL and 2 Major Crafts Benkei Rods 6,7”L, 6’5”UL. Like you know the Proflex is an extra fast very light tip, the Dexterity is a moderate fast ultralight rod that cast great down to 1.6 grams with ease, the Tetons are great rods and are my favorites the L is moderate fast the ul is a fast tip and the SUL is model almost noodle rod but with a little more backbone than most noodle rods. The MC Benkei’s are fast tip bass rods with loads of backbone and I feel they are more Light and Medium Light than UL and L
Order from Kuying Hong Kong. Check out the Facebook page. That's where I get all my from
Have you tried ecogear ss minnows? They are tiny and awesome swim baits
What you need is a DISPOSABLE BIO DEGRADABLE food based sinker that dissolves instantly when it comes in contact with water. Hey they said man would never fly. lol
I'd be seriously worried about the durability of that rod tip . No way in hell I'd be able to keep it from snapping
yep, but ill bet a half lb fish will feel like a 5 lber lol
@@THEREELTEST true but what happens when you hook an actual 5lb fish lol I really would like to get into bfs but I dont really know where I'd be able to fish it bc the cover around me the open water is very minimal to say the least lol
@@OsamaBinDarrel
That's the challenge, you gotta try it.
Sorry to disappoint you but have seen many crazy Malaysian guys reeling in 10kg fish and more with that rod I myself bought 5 of these 1 failed so I guess if they check their quality control a bit better then they will surely boss around that price range.
@@thedarkside3178
If what you said is true, that means the rod is underrated and not labeled as what it should be. No wonder my Teton doesn't break during overhead cast using 20is gram jig. That explain it used Light Jigging blank.
U need to test this in a video
What about any Shimano DC reels?
So do you think Ill be able to cast that 1 gram trout magnet 30 feet? Or did I just waste a bunch of money? lol
THE REEL TEST I think you can do it. I have 3 Kuying Teton rods, TTC662L, TTC632UL, TTC522SUL and they are worth every penny. I have my Daiwa SS Air on the SUL rod (rated .8g -3g) and I have casted a 1.5g jig with good results. But usually stay with 2g and above with my Bfs setups.
How far can you cast the trout magnet with your other rigs? My guess is that the rod won't make all that much difference.
i was lucky to get 15-20 foot with a slow deliberate casting stroke and the accuracy was still bad. Id be happy to get 30 foot because I plan to be wading
THE REEL TEST your right accuracy is what’s most important and that’s all about the rod power and action syncing up with the lure weight. Cast distance is only affected a little. Spinning or carrying, you are only going to cast something that light but so far.
You have to pay attention to line diameter and the amount of line you put on the spool.
I managed to cast 1.8 jig with 50 meter 0.18mm line today. Spool setting just to eliminate knocking sound and brake at 4 with Trout One AS B66UL-F 2-5lb 1.5 - 6g rod
What do you think about Ardent Gliss line ?
ive only used it for distance casting in the field. never for fishing. It feels like a flat 1 strand braid
What is the difference between this and a crappie rod ?
not much really, i bought the rod because of the extreme lure ratings
I have been using most of the kuying teton UL rod to the max testing it with Grouper many other strong fishes. Lately bought this Green Teton SUL and it broke 2 times at the lower section right beside the guide and not the top part. It very clear there's defect in blank design lower section... Rod looks cool, light super ultralight but not worthy at all
Is it realistic to cast 5g weights incl lure with with this rod?
I had 1.5 grams on it this weekend and I wouldnt go past 3
Daiwa has a setup to cast the .4g Daiwa Presso Vega Spoons they make.
The Teton now sells for $175 as of 2024!!!
where to buy such aftermarket spool ?(Aldebaran)
hedgehog studios
Hi I’m just starting bfs fishing what line or braid should I use strength and diameter?
use straight flouro, 8 lbs max
THE REEL TEST thanks. I’ve put 10Ib on but I’ll change it. You don’t recommend braid then ?
Stuart Morgan I usually run 8 or 10lb braid with Floro leaders on my BFS rigs. But I think any line will work it’s just what your comfortable with.
Cheers Eddie
you can use light braid but I dont like it. but for BFS i rarely go over 6lb line. i mostly use 4lb flouro
And another question fishing friend. Where can I find that Abu Garcia Revo LTX BF 8.
google it
@@THEREELTEST Thanks. I found it on Amazon $349.45. Thats a spicy Meat Ball my friend. Oh well I did ask.
check digitaka
@@THEREELTEST Dude You stay up late. Thanks I checked on digitaka and although they show Abu Garcia on the site when you click on it it comes back with (No Items) Thats okay I have another nightmare right now. I'm trying to order that Kast King 9 3 1 reel. Amazon wants me to join Prime or pay shipping. Ebay list an old credit card from an old order that doesn't exist anymore and there is no option to put in my new card and Kast King web site says they take credit cards but only list Pay Pal in the checkout. Gonna worry about this on Monday and also the best rod for that reel for frogging. Thanks for your videos Man.
Lasting black and red finish
Where can I find any theses rods for sale
You should test the bfs stuff against a spinning set up
maybe you should use fishing line counter to measure. its will be very difficult to see the tiny little lure on the open field
im not going to measure officially, im just going to take it fishing at a creek.
what music is playing ?? track please
Start posting links to purchase what you review.
i have teton 6" long with cork seat.......with fuji accessories....
They have a cheaper non limited edition. Im using it for my ultralight fishing.
I don’t know anything about BFS but why don’t you just use spinning gear
because im cooler than you
Some people just like using bait casting gear over spinning gear. BFS is kind of an enthusiast thing.
I dislike the line twist issues with spinning tackle that you encounter with spinning gear with certain presentations. If I can get away with casting gear, that’s my personal preference for that reason.
THE REEL TEST ah that explains it
More rod reviews!!
Ultimate bfs setup = fly rod
not even close.
A dry fly can easily weigh less than 1 gram...
and your point is? how is a fly rod related to bait finesse? do you use bait casters on a fly rod? a fly rod is used to cast line not a lure
My point is buying specialized bfs gear like a wanna be Japanese angler is some scenester shit and is totally unnecessary. Thats why you cast the line, it allows you to make the lightest presentations. That’s my point.
The point of bfs is to make presentations with light lures, not say, “look at my SV spool, bet your spool can’t do that.” Are you a child?
Kuying is from Taiwan FYI.
Do you know what happened to BCSG? Miss Brian's video's also. I am way to deep into BFS.
I wish I knew. I do know he was expecting his first kid and im sure hes well on daddy duty. Im sure he will be back because hes a hardcore angler
@@THEREELTEST That's what I'm hoping. I learned a lot from you both.You guy's are like the Godfathers of BFS.
He's busy shooting for new videos just don't have enough time new kiddo and his Job guess after Chinese New year he will be back
Go check out these rod on kuying malaysia facebook page .. there are bunch of mad lads used this rod and caught 50kg grouper 🤣
True bro ! That's what inspired me to purchase these rods
Hey what's up? Down in the comments I posted an EBAY link to some of those rods. Are they anything close to the one your looking at here.
theres no other baitcasting rod with specs close to this one. I already have several rods with 1/32-1/4 oz lure ratings, this rod is alot more radical than those
I just picked up the cheapO Shimano Sensilight. It was found at Sportsman's, after a google search. I stopped into a store I was driving by and BINGO, they had ONE casting rod. I took my Alderbaron off my Expride BFS, we will see how she works.
Were can I get one???????
check on Aliexpress after Feb 5, they are supposed to restock ive heard
I use finesse rod. I just use mr. crappie rig. 25.00 and you good to go even for trout
These Nutz good but not the same by far
Ted Sell it the same . They both catch fishes
another BFS rod you may be interested in would be the majorcraft benkei BIC-65 UL / BF. handles lures from 1/32 - 1/4. fairly cheap too for a japanese rod at $100 or so. i have a few of the benkei rods and they are pretty nice. only downside i can see is they ultra micro line guides, at least on the spinning rod i have. makes tying on a leader almost impossible.
www.majorcraft.co.jp/roditem/4353?lang=en
I already have almost 10 rods that have the 1/32-1/4 lure rating. Most of them being Major Craft