8 Reasons Why BFS Fishing SUCKS!
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In today's video, I tell y’all why BFS Fishing SUCKS! I know this sounds out of nowhere but I really wanted to cover why people may not want to try BFS.
BFS means Bait Finesse System, originally a system coined by Shimano for a style of finesse baitcasters they manufactured, but has now become the general term for baitcasting reels designed or modified to allow the use of light lines and light lures to better fish a pressured water body. Traditionally, this was done for only bass and with flourocarbon in Japan. Now, many use all types of line and all around the world, even in saltwater!
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
01:45 1. BFS can be expensive
02:15 2. You can just use a Spinning Reel
02:54 3. BFS reels are hard to use sometimes
04:48 4. BFS is addicting
06:12 5. BFS reels are hard to get
08:35 6. US hasn't caught up to BFS gear
09:42 7. BFS is "just a trend"
12:00 8. BFS fishing is too much fun
13:30 Outro
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I am familiar with bfe.i mostly fish for bass and pickerel in ponds and lakes (bank fisherman)and I'm looking for a combo that I can use for texas rig small swimbaits for under 200 dollars
Why Im into BFS. 1. I live in Japan 2. I fish for trout. 3. Where I fish is usually tiny streams and dense overgrowth in the mountains. 4. I cast with wrist and flicks only. Smooth and accurete over distance. 5. I use ultra light bait. 5. The delay is less on a cast than a spin. 6. I just dont like spin 😂 It's not just a trend here in Japan, it's been around for half a century here. They've been modding reels almost as long as they've been modding cars
I've been using Kastking Zephyr for last couple years now and they're pretty good for the price I got them for. It's not premium but I'm casting my small lures exactly where I want them to land. The thrill when you hook into a 4lb fish is unmatched.
Yeah they were good for what they when I first started a few years ago. But I do believe there’s better starter options now
@@TheHunterFisher Interesting. I just got a Zephyr about a month ago and honestly haven't used any of my other setups since. I use it with a 1/32 jig and a rocket bobber. I have it on a medium rod right now but definitely want to get a light or UL rod for it.
Why premium gear if you aren’t a premium fisherman? Fat chicks in designer cloths are still porkers. Some guys [ TRIGGER WARNING] go fishing to avoid their women and all the chatter.
BFS has completely reinvigorated my passion for fishing. I disagree with reason #3 - I find BFS reels to be easier to use than traditional baitcasters. But yeah, if you get sucked into the rabbit hole it can be expensive. On the other hand, they are so many budget options out there these days it’s probably only us fanatics that have to try them all.
I can agree with that, bfs reinvigorated my interest in the details of it all. Got tired of typicall bass fishing.
Interesting take on bfs reels being easier, I hear many people run into difficulty getting used to it at first. I know I definitely did at first, I had learned to set reels up completely different from the way that most set up bfs reels.
Budget bfs thrives on the ones who spend THOUSANDS😂
Swim bait, buzz bait, crank bait.......clickbait
My bank account agrees with you
I like throwing traditional lures for bass fishing but some of the lighter stuff, I have bad wrists from guitar playing, so I like the idea of having a lightweight bass rod and reel set up. What reel. Do you recommend for 8 to 10 lb braid. And what rod would you recommend?
Depends on the price range but maybe check this combo out:
Tsurinoya Genius
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Varivas 4 strand (0.8 goh)
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My favorite leader line
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I haven’t tried this rod but I’ve tried one of their others that’s very similar.
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Make sure you mention warmouth on the ultralight group.
Also, I’m a software developer as well. Do we just code all day then nope out to fish after?
I nullify my coding burnout by thinking of fishing😂
My MH Gloomis conquest rod paired with my 21 Antares DC ( sits lonely in the corner for 4 months now)
While I take out my new, 23 Conquest BFS paired with my old 18 buoyancy UL rod. To the lake everyday
Do you know what really SUCKS!? In the past year I have started both BFS fishing and Big Swimbait Fishing! My garage and boat are full of both 8 foot XXH swim bait rods and reels and 6 foot UL BFS reels and rods. I have boxes of swimbaits from 4 inches to 12 inches and BFS lures from 1/8 oz to 1/4oz. I probably catch 50 fish on the BFS to one swimbait fish.
Thanks for the videos. I am subscribed! I am 63. Been fishing since I was 6 years old. Still loving it.
As fisherman who get dialed in, we love torturing ourselves😂
Keep it up with the swims. I have been fishing them for years and always the passion. I did get into the BFS fishing over the winter and love it. Mainly since I can play around with all of the cool little baits. Plus you can get a ton for the price of your average custom swimbait lol.
as a person who started bfs fishing 10 years ago. the price of it has drastically gone down. its gotten to the point where its arguably cheaper to bfs fish these days. great video but i wanted to point that out. its really cheap to use a reel you already have and get a shallow spool (another reason why daiwa is the best). and the price of these rods these days are cheaper than ugly sticks and are on par with alot of the expensive jdm rods people were paying 500 dollars for 10 years ago.
I just ordered a shallow spool for my daiwa cr80 baistcaster you think that would be enough? Not aiming for 1/64oz or lighter but atleast 1/32
@@cavesuki8510 1/32oz+plastic with right rod and line is easily doable. no one fishes 1/64 to be honest.
Had a 7’ Old 18 Buoyancy UL bait caster show up this afternoon. Saying that it is stunning doesn’t do it justice.
Just wow…
Can’t wait to get it on the water next week!
Bfs got me interested in fishing. I think it has brought back a spark to anglers that have gotten a little bored with the standard spinning set up.
Back when BFS bait casters were introduced onto the fishing market I saw them as nothing more than a marketing gimmick reel aimed at the hardcore gullible bait caster guys.
I still think that to this day. For the price of three to five hundred bucks just for the reel I could buy an entire spinning rod and reel or budget baitcaster rod and reel and still have enough for lures and gas to get me to the lake or river.
I'm basically a chronically cheap fisherman. My fishing equipment is not top of the line by any means, and even with my cheapo fishing equipment I still catch fish; ultra light or whatever weight I'm fishing.
Of all the fish I've caught on my inexpensive fishing equipment, not one single fish I've ever caught has ever complained or been embarrassed for having been caught on cheap fishing gear.
Any thoughts on the Daiwa Tatula SV 70 as a BFS reel?
Without aftermarket spools, it’s not gonna do well under 4 grams (1/6th oz). With after market you’re probably looking at it performing well ish 3-10 grams(1/10th to 3/8th oz).
In your opinion, what is the best reel from 3 grams in terms of value for money ?
Under or over 3 grams?
@@TheHunterFisher From 3 grams and up :)
Lews has a new Custom Lite Shallow Spool. I had to pick one up to see what it's all about. Haven't fished it yet, probably going to wish I just got another Aldebaren BFS lol
Yeah some people have mentioned. I’m gonna make a video checking it out at icast if I can.
I have been using the bps pro finnesse baitcaster on a eagle claw Featherlite rod for over 30 years .I also have the round Abu Garcia S series reel but prefer the bps cause I can cast 1/8oz spinnerbaits and chatterbait no problem .
I have two BFS setups and it is easier to catch fish on a Baitcaster because of the drag adjustment on the fly. Yes it can be costly but not all the time. The Soloking Pro is only $50, but Shimano Conquest is among the best. It is hard to find a quality Light Rod, I use Cajun for $120. It is addicting as you said. Spinning is always acceptable but BFS is so much more fun.
I agree with your opinions my friend...first a try baitcasting on a cheap cdm casting reel for practice...then switch to bfs my only down side in my region is limited access to lures i could buy for bfs fishing and another as a bank angler when fishing in an open water you got a limited area of water to cover because throwing very light lures from the bank doesn't bomb you a hundreds feet...but on close quarters fishing bfs really works amazing, better that spinning...and you know the feeling when you were fighting a huge one on a bfs, it is very "satisfying"... to tell you honestly in the club I joined in, I'm the only one using bfs gears...cheers my friend!!👍🏻👍🏻
That’s definitely one thing people forget, you can try and tune your gear to cast far, but jig/lure weight ultimately determines how far something goes.
I'm the only member of my fishing club that uses baitcasters as well. A couple guys have them but don't use them. They say it's too much trouble to figure out how to cast them.
@@TheHunterFisher i did...just minimize side to side spool play and low breaks adjustment with thumb assistance...it did cast far but not that far as 1/2 oz baits...it pretty shines on close quarter body of water and my clubmates pretty jealous on me...jeheh although they can flip and pitch bit i can cast more often and without difficulties than them...I wish i could have a bfs glass rod...i want to try it...hehheh👍🏻👍🏻
@@davidbrooks6084 at first i am that guy...but whenni get used to it it os addicting to cast after cast..
I just bought a 60 dollar bfs reel. And might pick up a 90 dollar one that outperformed higher end ones on The Reel Test channel.
BFS is expensive? Aliexpress bro. How much did that TFO and miravel combo cost you?
I never recommend AliExpress because it’s very hit or miss and customer service is horrible more than often than not. Not to mention that people who buy from there are about to start getting charged extra fees and taxes. Like you won’t get your item from customs until you pay the fees.
@@TheHunterFisheri have bought multiple bfs setups from ali and have never had any bad luck. i could spend $100 and have a solid combo. i’ve made a bunch of lure orders too and everything always came. just took a couple weeks. i basically only bfs now and abandoned all my medium - medium heavy setups in the garage.
Question about casting distance - I like to fish clear rivers and streams where I often value a long cast to avoid spooking the fish with my presence. Can anyone give me something specific to this: I was throwing a 3/32 oz Keitech Jig with a Mule Burro Bug Trailer last week and had a blast on the smallies...
If I were to switch over to BFS for this presentation, what type of casting distance should I expect with optimal BFS gear?
That’s primarily depending on what you use for setup on rod, reel, and line.
Personally speaking, I don’t think you’ll see a drop in distance with that much weight. You’ll get roughly the same distances once you’ve adjusted to Bait Finesse gear. But more importantly, you’ll see a lot more control.
@@TheHunterFisher - the control is what I’m interested in-well, that and the fun! Yes, I definitely get that the specific gear will be the difference maker. I’m thinking about the Dark Wolf as an entry BFS reel and am debating between the Tsurinoya Legend (to stay budget friendly) or a Dobyns for the rod. My current spinning gear is paired with 10 lb J8 braid with 6 lb leader.
Thanks for the quick response!
It sounds like you’ve got a great direction to head in!
All that should be available at
www.BaitFinesseEmpire.com/
Spinning gear suck and expensive too because I spent 249 on Shimano Vanford and another 200 on Phoenix UL rod. Too expensive for pan fish.
Like your video!
Went hard bfs for three years . Just sold it all . Had my fill. Still have baitcasters for certain things. Going to sfs.
I like a little of everything. I’m never dropping bfs though.
As much as I hate, HATE some of your comments here. I have watched this twice now and still find some true value and honesty in the vid on whole and reflecting many of my own BFS perceptions. I really like that you hit the nail on the head (so to speak) talking about the US "...americanized standard of bfs...". But, not only about gear, but philosophy as well. In my heart, true BFS resonates back to creek fishing in Arkansas as a boy with a Zebco 202 Spincaster, 2lb test and a 4ft rod fishing for bluegill only better with a baitcaster.
I know that if you asked 10 people what "BFS" is, you would get 8 different answers. The reason I say 8 answers is that people are really exploring what BFS is. For whatever that is, you deserve some credit. Thank you.
I caught more bass BFS fishing this year then I did with my regular gear!! BFS don’t suck it’s just for more specific areas I think!
Oh trust me, I agree! I use bfs even in saltwater
@TheHunterFisher watching your video now and I heard about the backlashing with BFS reels, I feel you on that one!! I've had better luck with the SLX BFS reel over the aldebaran bfs reel. Less backlashing with the SLX, but the aldebaran is soooo smooth!!
Definitely true! SLX has performed even better than the Curado for me. I sold my Curado
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Then just use spinning and save money and your time.
It suck, if you want to use small bait, just use spinning combo. It cast further and cheaper. Bfs just for look "cool & pro"
It’s only a trend if you give up early. I have coffee with my breakfast every day, not a trend or fad. Trends are why my sister can’t fit more shoes in her closet.
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I used to hate finesse fishing!!!!! till i found bfs now am all in to bfs
I started getting into doing more finesse fishing then I got drawn into bfs myself!
Got me at #1
😂
Soloking Acura is debatably better than the shimano cal. And 35$ new.
Absolutely not😂
Good for maybe individuals who want budget, it’s a fantastic option. But the price is the only advantage it has comparing against the 23CQBFS.
I have it and every time I backlash the line go between the reel and the spool such a headache I had to switch from 4 to 6lb test and it seems like the magnets for the breaks are not good I keep it all the way up no matter what I’m casting wish it was better
dude you forgot the new lews custom lite ss..
Because I’m not gonna recommend until I see people testing and reviewing it
We waiting for you to review it though..
I ain’t paying $300 for a reel from a company who’s never been in the bfs biz😂
@@TheHunterFisher you right about that.. lol
I think everyone has. I haven’t seen any info on it other than the release info.
I enjoy BFS fishing hehe
I love your newspeak explanations. Good luck in the DNC.
😂🤣love it
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The kastking zephyr is the best beginner reel for BFS.
I’d argue Tsurinoya has much better options available for less.
I disagree japan rules
Yes it does suck lol it sucks you into shaking more money out of your pockets lol 😅
bfs is not for everyone
Buzzbait , spinnerbait , crankbait ... click bait .
Ok, Kastking sucks… so maybe that’s why BFS could suck if you’re looking to buy US based. 😅
Hopefully we see that rumored Daiwa Tatula AIR this year, Im gonna try and be the first to get it😂
@@TheHunterFisher depending on timing I might race you! Definitely playing around with more Daiwa this fall. Got the Shimano line pretty much covered. :)
I’m due for another Daiwa, but if the tatula air TW comes, the SS air TW gonna have to wait!
Dude I'll take my sucky kastking gear out with you any day and out fish you and have more money in my pocket. All that high price gear doesn't put more fish in the boat. Just my opinion.
@@davidbrooks6084 which you are entitled to. I have just found their products to be worse than everything else I've tried, and the customer service matches. Also, their business practices are questionable. So I will not support them.