If you hate trials this is the easiest way to get it. Get to rank 10 where you can grab the gun that saint has, but DO NOT GRAB IT! After getting to that rank, you don’t have the play trials anymore but you gotta play the waiting game. The roll on the weapon in saint’s rewards track will change each week, and if you don’t grab it you can just wait until he has the God roll and then grab it.
blast radius effects the explosive/impact split. higher br --> higher % of total is explosive people want low blast radius to increase the effectiveness of spike but it's a minimal difference
Important to note with BnS. If youbfire your top slot, then middle slot then bottom slot to trigger it, it has been confirmed by health bar tracking that it DOES NOT SHOW the boosted bns for the first hit, BUT IT IS BOOSTED
Cascade point would be a good one too with envious it’s not a direct damage buff but it’s a rate of fire buff with no penalty to damage making it really good for burst dps
@@rivman2756Yh but if it’s for surges it’s either grenade launcher which you can use Any and if it’s strand u can use any other strand heavy they don’t stack if it’s strand and grenade launcher it’s the same buff they don’t double up
Props to Ehroar for being realistic in the "worth" of the weapon. The game is not in a great spot right now, and the community has an unhealthy relationship with being 'optimal'. Grinding for those few percentages are not worth it if they're going to burn you out. This is a game, it's meant to be enjoyed and be a break from the stress of our daily lives.
Agreed. Windego, apex, anarchy , 2 diffrent craftable viable linears, good heavies that needs less work plus are good dps alone and in quick swapping. Yet,Nothing feels worth grinding in this game cuz it's mostly fluff.
Have you already tried the New Two-Tailed-Fox with Foetracers. It can actually pump out dmg, especially when you also use 3 other surge mods, since it benefits from all of them. I actually am currently using it on a Void subclass with 2 Arc and 1 Solar Surge mods, have a Voltshot primary and just lay into bosses with effectively 7 stacking surges.
Keep in mind the weapons in the Trials rank up inventory re-roll weekly. So if you don’t play Trials. You could just wait for a week with a good roll to get to rank 10.
Do yourself a favor and dont try to get to rank 10 in one week. Do a rank or two every week that way you don't need to potentially do your suffering all at once
Getting a 5/5 GL is going to be a chore to get, and a crafted roll is plenty enough to make due. Especially since additional orbs may be created by Well or Bubble to give additional shots with Explosive Light
ive been grinding this out to run with the new foetracer which gives you x4 surge for damaging a powerful combatant with an ability. do your BnS swapping, throw your melee and bam, tons of damage.
Gonna grab a couple of roles. I hope you review The Showrunner soon. With Kinetic Tremors and the 25% more damage to Kinetic weapons, its one of the best PvE SMGs for higher end content in my opinion.
Feel it worth noting if you're specifically looking for a Strand GL, there is also the craftable one from Root of Nightmares that can also roll with Envious Assassin. The perks in the right column aren't as good as this one (Full Court isn't great, Surrounded is situational, Frenzy is a bit low for buffs, and Paracausal Affinity requires a little set-up and is also a bit low for the buff). But, you can craft it after you grind the raid just enough for red borders rather than hoping for an RNG drop from Trials.
when you do take a look at the fusion can you test controlled burst? i did some testing myself and it gives the 20% dmg increase but doesn't seem to decrease the charge time as the perk states. i took it frame by frame and full mag unbuffed was the same as full mag buffed. idk if it's a bug but seems to not be working as intended but no one is talking abt it. Thanks!
I’ve been using adept loaded question with controlled burst since it dropped, and the whole time I’ve also been wondering if the charge time gets any shorter at all lol. Most of these things are so unnoticeable in game so you never really know, but I’d love to see if it’s actually doing anything
Adept is basically worse than normal one at least if u mw it since adept get a stat boost to blast radius and less blast radius is better so normal is better if both versions are mw‘d
"Bait and Switch is automatically the best damage perk for any weapons". You do realize Explosive Light buffs GLs damage for 60%, which is almost double of BnS' 35%? For most GLs Explosive Light is much better option
Depends on how long the damage phase is though, there could be situations in GMs or master raids where getting the raw damage out faster + local debuffs/buffs (radiant/weaken) would be better than setting up BnS. Will have to check on my own time if I get that roll, but I would personally prefer cascade so I can witherhoard/fusion in solo content and not have to juggle as much
@@julioforessi1336 increased fire rate increases DPS more than bait and switch. Damage phases vary you can't assume your always gonna get it all off. You can pair it with other fillers for even more damage.
@@julioforessi1336 id suggest reviewing this spreadsheet which lists cascade point as being better docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5wtBjRYHHxuF4oJKDb_iOGZs-wTkzB6RYbnyNLbuz4/htmlview Regardless it's clearly debatable so it's odd it isn't even mentioned in the video
I kept a 100 blast radius windigo for pvp and it melts like a damn rocket. I kept a auto loading/explosive light pve roll also. I’m thinking I’ll just use this, but that strand synergy might just be worth the grind, just not for me, I ain’t got enough hair left.
I focused so many engrams today, everything but envious/bait drops, imagine when it does I won’t get spike. Wish I could just craft it. Or literally play any other activity, I was avoiding pvp heavily this season.
You should do testing on the new high impact fusion rifle and the new perk controlled burst it looks very interesting by hitting every pellet on the fusion you gain increased damage and charge rate
I tested this on nezarec, unfortunately the fusion being a high impact means that even with controlled burst it's a hindrance to your damage. Tech is much better, and a good roll Cartesian will be better as a solar option
Here is where I contradict your DPS Strat. The Strat is no longer Izzy GL it’s now Cloudstrike GL so using a explosive light GL it will beat bait and switch
Bungie: "this weapon has good damage perks for pve, where should we put it? Hmmm... definitely a competitive pvp mode that PVE players don't want to play!"
Imagine this with Until it’s return with overflow and the new final shape fusion rifle 😳 the burst dmg is gonna be outta this world (they’re all strand, so no surge splitting either)
Lol yea took me longer than it should have to realize I don’t need the absolute meta options, if it was craftable I would probly jump in trials and get it but if there’s a raid boss I can’t beat it’s not because I have a slightly worse grenade launcher
This was exactly what I thought when I saw it noice sad trials im great at pvp use to go solo flawless a lot to but now got get freinds together to get it or save engrams
@@appleonshoe845 Being that the Trials version is Strand, the alternative might be a Light attribute like with Reeds which makes it have better synergy with our current weapon pool for DPS rotations.
neat gl, but im sticking with my rocket, i don't wanna learn how to aim a GL at a moving boss, and plus that the higher potential ceiling doesn't make up for the significantly higher failure rate and bigger punishment for missing.
@@G_F1 I mean I miss more gl nades than I miss rockets because I don't have to account for the arch. Nor do I have to play trials to get that GL for the now obligatory new Meta featuring that specific heavy gl, because using rockets now that there's this GL, would mean you are hard throwing and shit. Also what I'm smoking? Powdered riven collar bone mixed with green tea.
@@rebcommando587 yeah, i could have, however then some smartass (no not you, an actual smartass), would come roast me that i still use puny rockets over ThE bEsT dAmAgE mEtA iN tHe GaMe! just because i cant be bothered to aim with a grenade launcher
0:28 you lost me at "Well you have to play Trials" FUCK THAT!!!! Never once been to the Lighthouse or won more than 3 games in a row even during the "easy carry days" of D1
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If you hate trials this is the easiest way to get it. Get to rank 10 where you can grab the gun that saint has, but DO NOT GRAB IT! After getting to that rank, you don’t have the play trials anymore but you gotta play the waiting game. The roll on the weapon in saint’s rewards track will change each week, and if you don’t grab it you can just wait until he has the God roll and then grab it.
Aw, good to know. I'm one rank away from unlocking the 'nade launcher.
Or just go flawless
Nice, thanks for the tip mate ✌️
200 IQ move
If the god roll ever comes! It might not. Never know.
Or you can unlock then use the engrams to focus (of course you gotta play to get the engrams).
Looks like Izanagi + Auto loading gl is back on the menu
Return of the goat, now we just need a recluse replacement
No it’s not
@@EclipseDestiny it objectively is. It’s one of the best rotations in the game right now
I would love some kinetic heavys yo pair with it. Surge mods for kinetic feel worse to use that their counterparts
@@EclipseDestiny cope
blast radius effects the explosive/impact split. higher br --> higher % of total is explosive
people want low blast radius to increase the effectiveness of spike
but it's a minimal difference
It’s less than impact casing, it’s like a 1% split, higher blast radius in pvp is always a good thing.
Blast radius good for adds
Crazy how masterworking blast radius makes your dps worse
@@ericx6969you should not be using a heavy GL on adds...
Important to note with BnS. If youbfire your top slot, then middle slot then bottom slot to trigger it, it has been confirmed by health bar tracking that it DOES NOT SHOW the boosted bns for the first hit, BUT IT IS BOOSTED
Cascade point would be a good one too with envious it’s not a direct damage buff but it’s a rate of fire buff with no penalty to damage making it really good for burst dps
You can craft that same roll on Regnant though, and Enhanced Traits. There’s no reason to get that roll on this Weapon.
@@heyblaiseSurges.
@@heyblaise yeah that’s true but was just pointing it out if someone didn’t have that crafted yet
@@rivman2756Yh but if it’s for surges it’s either grenade launcher which you can use Any and if it’s strand u can use any other strand heavy they don’t stack if it’s strand and grenade launcher it’s the same buff they don’t double up
This GL looks clean af.
i want the weapon, but play trials requires me to play trials so i guess im not getting it
Same. I can just about stomach team scorched, lol.
Trials is not even that bad sometimes
Props to Ehroar for being realistic in the "worth" of the weapon. The game is not in a great spot right now, and the community has an unhealthy relationship with being 'optimal'. Grinding for those few percentages are not worth it if they're going to burn you out. This is a game, it's meant to be enjoyed and be a break from the stress of our daily lives.
The game hasn't been in a "great spot" since it came out and will always be because people work at bungie and think their comments matter
Agreed. Windego, apex, anarchy , 2 diffrent craftable viable linears, good heavies that needs less work plus are good dps alone and in quick swapping. Yet,Nothing feels worth grinding in this game cuz it's mostly fluff.
if a grind involves pvp in D2 it’s really not worth it
blasphemer!!
Have you already tried the New Two-Tailed-Fox with Foetracers.
It can actually pump out dmg, especially when you also use 3 other surge mods, since it benefits from all of them.
I actually am currently using it on a Void subclass with 2 Arc and 1 Solar Surge mods, have a Voltshot primary and just lay into bosses with effectively 7 stacking surges.
Keep in mind the weapons in the Trials rank up inventory re-roll weekly. So if you don’t play Trials. You could just wait for a week with a good roll to get to rank 10.
Do yourself a favor and dont try to get to rank 10 in one week. Do a rank or two every week that way you don't need to potentially do your suffering all at once
Getting a 5/5 GL is going to be a chore to get, and a crafted roll is plenty enough to make due. Especially since additional orbs may be created by Well or Bubble to give additional shots with Explosive Light
Yep I'm still grinding or was.. waiting for next trials for another two rank reset lol
Hit solo Q flawless got spike quick launch impulse and BnS with a velocity masterwork, the grind continues I need envious
As someone that doesn’t really play Trials. That Dragon Warlock is calling my name and the Hunter set as well. 👀
No! BnS affects the first shot; numbers are wrong since they're client sided, but the actual damage done to the health bar will benefit from BnS
No it doesn't what have you been using
Whatchu smoking?
It's a little inconsistent from what I know but yeah it actually affects the first shot
@@ScarletthespudIt doesn't show in game but on the health bar the first shot actually gets the benefit
commenters saying this guy is wrong are clueless af
ive been grinding this out to run with the new foetracer which gives you x4 surge for damaging a powerful combatant with an ability. do your BnS swapping, throw your melee and bam, tons of damage.
That’s not how foetracer works. It’s still garbage
They reworked foetracer?
@@ItsDobbieyes
@@ItsDobbie yea, they gave foetracers original perk to knuckelhead and gave it a monochromatic maestro kinda perk which also prints class pickups
@@MrForce961and also stacks with monochromatic maestro from the artifact as well as all other buff sources (minus surges)
curious how well this compares to rockets after the ghorn nerf
Depends what boss, ideally lower health or shorter dmg phases because you run out quick
Dungeons and 3 man activities this seems the go to, raids or 6 mans rockets still rain
Can you cover the Bipod buff and whether or not it's worth running now?
Its better than clown, not better than bait and switch. so hothead is fully powercrept now, gun in trashcan
@@sxcculent lol no, its still the best arc rocket launcher. Did you forget elemental surges exist?
Enhanced envious/ALH paired with enhanced explosive light on the season 20 GL is also really great.
One thing you could do is wait to claim the gl from rank up and check every weekly reset for the role to change, did it with immortal last season
Gonna grab a couple of roles. I hope you review The Showrunner soon. With Kinetic Tremors and the 25% more damage to Kinetic weapons, its one of the best PvE SMGs for higher end content in my opinion.
first one i got rolled with tremors and overflow
I’m on my 3rd reset and the best I’ve got is spike auto BnS, 2 more days but idk if I can take anymore pain
It would be nice to see some dps numbers for current meta guns just so we could compare it
Ohh and strand aspects that grant unraveling will be good too, damn that gl good
For regnant is use spike grenades, holster auto and explosif light it feel amazing with a fusion rifle with holster auto loading
Curious how envious with cascade would do with a cloudstrike or weapon swap situation. Definitely focusing this
I got quick/volatile launch, alloy casing/high-explosive ordnance, envious, explosive light and a reload masterwork. Good or bad?
Feel it worth noting if you're specifically looking for a Strand GL, there is also the craftable one from Root of Nightmares that can also roll with Envious Assassin. The perks in the right column aren't as good as this one (Full Court isn't great, Surrounded is situational, Frenzy is a bit low for buffs, and Paracausal Affinity requires a little set-up and is also a bit low for the buff). But, you can craft it after you grind the raid just enough for red borders rather than hoping for an RNG drop from Trials.
when you do take a look at the fusion can you test controlled burst? i did some testing myself and it gives the 20% dmg increase but doesn't seem to decrease the charge time as the perk states. i took it frame by frame and full mag unbuffed was the same as full mag buffed. idk if it's a bug but seems to not be working as intended but no one is talking abt it. Thanks!
I’ve been using adept loaded question with controlled burst since it dropped, and the whole time I’ve also been wondering if the charge time gets any shorter at all lol.
Most of these things are so unnoticeable in game so you never really know, but I’d love to see if it’s actually doing anything
Always glad to see your vids!
Did bait and switch even proc on that final kill?
Im looking forward to this gun being the adept weapon in trials
Adept is basically worse than normal one at least if u mw it since adept get a stat boost to blast radius and less blast radius is better so normal is better if both versions are mw‘d
@@vidigonzales7164blast radius has a minimal effect on damage
@@vidigonzales7164the +2 to blast radius won’t affect the damage
@@burnt2951 yeah you r probably right but theoretically its „worse“
I have a koraxis with 3 or 4 in mag. Backup mag takes it to 7 i think. And then reconstruction takes it up to 14 total
you can get koraxis to 16
extended + backup mag + reconstruction = 16 grenades
btw at around 4:25 when you displayed the damage increase with EL, you had it listed as FC for full court again.
"Bait and Switch is automatically the best damage perk for any weapons". You do realize Explosive Light buffs GLs damage for 60%, which is almost double of BnS' 35%? For most GLs Explosive Light is much better option
The only problem with it is that it is locked behind Trials.
Who knows maybe in future we get Heavy GL with bait and switch which we can craft
Why didn’t you look at cascade point?
Depends on how long the damage phase is though, there could be situations in GMs or master raids where getting the raw damage out faster + local debuffs/buffs (radiant/weaken) would be better than setting up BnS. Will have to check on my own time if I get that roll, but I would personally prefer cascade so I can witherhoard/fusion in solo content and not have to juggle as much
@@julioforessi1336 increased fire rate increases DPS more than bait and switch. Damage phases vary you can't assume your always gonna get it all off. You can pair it with other fillers for even more damage.
@@maisharona5861 aegis spread sheet shows cascade doing more dps than bns.
@@julioforessi1336 id suggest reviewing this spreadsheet which lists cascade point as being better
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5wtBjRYHHxuF4oJKDb_iOGZs-wTkzB6RYbnyNLbuz4/htmlview
Regardless it's clearly debatable so it's odd it isn't even mentioned in the video
I kept a 100 blast radius windigo for pvp and it melts like a damn rocket. I kept a auto loading/explosive light pve roll also. I’m thinking I’ll just use this, but that strand synergy might just be worth the grind, just not for me, I ain’t got enough hair left.
You lost me at "you have to play trials"
Skill issue
@@void49534get a job
@@ciguretsame to you bestie
Sounds like someone is bad
Nah not everyone has hours to waste in that mode it’s ridiculous
Got the GOD ROLL! Envi, bait & switch, spike nades
Baffling that pvp consistently has some of the best pve weapons.
I focused so many engrams today, everything but envious/bait drops, imagine when it does I won’t get spike. Wish I could just craft it. Or literally play any other activity, I was avoiding pvp heavily this season.
*watches end of video, pondering losing the 200k because… trials lol
You should do testing on the new high impact fusion rifle and the new perk controlled burst it looks very interesting by hitting every pellet on the fusion you gain increased damage and charge rate
Controlled burst was on tech force last season.
I tested this on nezarec, unfortunately the fusion being a high impact means that even with controlled burst it's a hindrance to your damage. Tech is much better, and a good roll Cartesian will be better as a solar option
can u do a damage check on the eremite fusion
They should give a GL cascade point and bait and switch as a pairing already
Watch the whole video knowing I will never go near trials .
People acting like being bored in pve is the same as feeling miserable in pvp is wild to me
That's cool. But can it get Cascade Point? If not, I'll gladly stay with what I've got (plus I don't need to play trials to get it)
Yes
bro does not wanna stop testing on majors 💀
So I got one with Autoloading, spike nades and Bait & Switch. Do I really have to go back into trials to get the same but envious?
Wither hoard BNS combo HELLLLOOOO
Bruh I didn't realize it had bait and switch....this is game changing for strand dps
i also think its a bug for envious assassin i was able to get 4 rockets in my cold comfort today
How are they gonna give a GL hatchling but not the new HC??
No with the bug Cold Comfort can get 4 rounds + the trait.
The first shot IS BUFFED by BNS (thr number doesnt show it).
Confirmed by using destiny damage tracker (health bar pixel counting)
Is this better than legend of acrius ?
Here is where I contradict your DPS Strat. The Strat is no longer Izzy GL it’s now Cloudstrike GL so using a explosive light GL it will beat bait and switch
I've got a crafted regnant with enhanced envious and explosive light.
I think ill be fine without this tbh
Good to know you're being honest by saying tbh as opposed to not saying it for the same effect
@@rebcommando587you’re kinda gay tbh
I got every perk that u makes it a g roll except BS instead I got cascade is it still worth using even without BS?
First, you have to play Trials.
Nope.
monochromatic maestro only requires ability damage, not final blows
Ok so that explains why my handcannon had 38 rounds for a 120 envious is bugged
Bungie: "this weapon has good damage perks for pve, where should we put it? Hmmm... definitely a competitive pvp mode that PVE players don't want to play!"
Foetracer with this will be nuts
there is no chance bait isn't getting hit tbh its becoming the new vorpal weapon
We going to trials baby
Omg... I might have to play PvP for the first time since S17. Oi
Fuck, now I have to play trials
For my pve bros out there, wait untill bungie offers up double xp and or freelance week for trials. Itll help with the stress 😅
Freelance week doesnt exist anymore
Same with flawless pool
@@xxbrokensoulxx4651 what since when
@@timerupture8430 before or since lightfall dont remember
Trials? Damn. I'll never own one.
How about try this in hard content?
Imagine this with Until it’s return with overflow and the new final shape fusion rifle 😳 the burst dmg is gonna be outta this world (they’re all strand, so no surge splitting either)
Only on strand subclasses tho
I believe unlike what the showcase said, the new fusion is in the kinetic slot (can't confirm for myself but have heard that regularly)
@@Plag-Dmon98it’s not in the kinetic slot it’s in the special. Its damage number in the menu is just white
@@Scarletthespudperfect, either strand hunter with the new arms for 3 grenades or strand warlock with needlestorm for even more dmg 😮💨
@@Plag-Dmon98it is the same element as your current subclass and is in fact in the special slot. I have the gun.
The only way they find to still make PVP relevant is by locking the best PVE weapons in it 🤣💀
Lol yea took me longer than it should have to realize I don’t need the absolute meta options, if it was craftable I would probly jump in trials and get it but if there’s a raid boss I can’t beat it’s not because I have a slightly worse grenade launcher
As a PVE player... I need it... but damn im so bad at pvp
I have a genuine hatred for PvP but when I saw this on the rank up rewards I decided to torture myself in trials.
Explosive light is +50%
it only applies for 6 rounds
This was exactly what I thought when I saw it noice sad trials im great at pvp use to go solo flawless a lot to but now got get freinds together to get it or save engrams
To bad its locked behind a shit mode.
bungie tends to give us substitutes for these powerful weapons in the future, let's just hope that's the case here lol
@@appleonshoe845 Being that the Trials version is Strand, the alternative might be a Light attribute like with Reeds which makes it have better synergy with our current weapon pool for DPS rotations.
I tried it before I went to bed had 17 in the mag my roll was assassin n e light
Wooooooow such a surprise, the best PVE heavy comes from trials 🤮
7:17 regneghghge
ya but regnant you have volatile so its probably a bit better than 15% worse to be fair
"Triald GL" welp
neat gl, but im sticking with my rocket, i don't wanna learn how to aim a GL at a moving boss, and plus that the higher potential ceiling doesn't make up for the significantly higher failure rate and bigger punishment for missing.
The punishment for missing a shot with a rocket launcher is much greater than missing a shot with a GL lol what are you smoking
@@G_F1 I mean I miss more gl nades than I miss rockets because I don't have to account for the arch.
Nor do I have to play trials to get that GL for the now obligatory new Meta featuring that specific heavy gl, because using rockets now that there's this GL, would mean you are hard throwing and shit.
Also what I'm smoking?
Powdered riven collar bone mixed with green tea.
Could have just said you don't want to learn to aim to save a paragraph
@@rebcommando587 yeah, i could have, however then some smartass (no not you, an actual smartass), would come roast me that i still use puny rockets over ThE bEsT dAmAgE mEtA iN tHe GaMe!
just because i cant be bothered to aim with a grenade launcher
id rather get a wendigo than deal with trials
Bro rlly tried procing BnS at the end of the vid lmao
Why’s this have bait and switch!? I’ll be so pissed if I get it on an adept roll lol
It’s to bad they put Trials behind a pay wall.
Welp, too bad I suck in Trials.
Imma play Trials for the armor and be satisfied with whatever GLs I get along the way
lol, I mean with so many other options. This is abit of a dig no?
0:28 you lost me at "Well you have to play Trials" FUCK THAT!!!! Never once been to the Lighthouse or won more than 3 games in a row even during the "easy carry days" of D1
"you have to play trials" nah m8
Neat gl but trials. I’ll stick with my koraxis’ distress.
If you're using a gl for damage of any sort you don't want a 150, you should get a regnant instead.
It's Trails
Too bad I’ll never get it since I’m really bad at pvp
Trials? Disgusting
To how tf you still have an umbral man that shit left the game time ago