I Figured Out The INSANE Issue With My CL65 AMG But The First Drive Was A TOTAL DISASTER!
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In this video, the Twin-Turbo V12 saga continues. I figured out the insane issue with the hydraulic ABC suspension and all was great. Then bad things happen and the first drive was a total disaster. If you have any idea what the new issue is then drop a comment. PLEASE!
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My S55 had an Accumulator fail and did a similar thing. The Accumulator has a diaphragm with 3000psi Nitrogen on one side to act as a shock absorber. When they fail they can send material into the line. I got lucky and found the piece sticking out when I replaced the accumulators. One way to tell you have had an accumulator fail is fluid will push out of the resevoir.
I havenot seen you testing all the actuators/solenois for action AND blockage...maybe the coils are open or fluid passages on solenoids are plugged in. or worst the suspension ecu is damaged and not actuating the valves...
Run the engine and crack the bleed nipple on the back until air spits out and new fluid comes out. Make sure the system doesn't go dry, this is where you need an apprentice on a ladder for 30 minutes gently topping up the fluid
Did you blow the front to rear lines out from both ends?? Could be a blockage which you moved blowing from one end and it pushed the fluid out. Good luck videos are excellent 👍👍
I noticed one of the lines didn’t blow through straight away, it looked as if it jumped and them spurted! 😂😂
do you think now it could be a electrical problem with the system like the solenoids' to the back section not working .
this is not a criticism but do you think you might have got side tracked with thinking it is a blockage and over looked the electrical side ?
16:50 the way the dust fell off the muffler and flew over the camera was quite magical
Lots of people use stills from this kind of shot as proof of miniature aliens, etc....
I thought that was the dream sequence.
I liked it too, totally unplanned but as you say magical.
There's the problem right there. The ABC system has lost it's magic pixie dust.
I was thinking the same magical!
No youtuber has ever deserved a like more... such patience and commitment! I feel for you, you'll get there in the end.
He deserves all the viewership on this. Hope he makes good money off these couple of videos vs the time he spent. Can’t imagine the hours and hours just talking to other people, reading, the diagnostic back and forth….geez
Also, how satisfying was it to watch him removing that crap from the line!?
Yes, yes, yes....Wonderfully stated!!!!
He is rarlly man but also i know youtuper like him but they are not too much
“Probably ruining something, i dont care”. We all felt that.
This is exactly how I feel at work with travel nurses and FEMA nurses…
Our customer service has vastly deteriorated due to these nurses being soooooooo god damn lazy and not answering any call bells and literally leaving for break right before their patient crashes…
Corporate has decided to come down and have us take a “Customer Service” class… and the whole time we are all like… “we don’t care… we don’t care anymore. Why do you give this class to the nurses y’all are paying $120 an hour”
🌚🌚🌚
@@deandalapanda It's like this in the NHS. All you hear is "it's time for my break, it's time for my break, I can't do it get the doctor to do it". Fkin lazy. Most of them can't be bothered to get out of their chair to do something properly and spend more time justifying why don't have to do something than actually remembering they're there to care for someone in need. Their handovers are absolutely awful as well. You could be 11 hours 59 mins into a 12 hour shift and if you ask some of these nurses about the patient they're supposed to be looking after you cannot believe how fast they respond with "I don't know the patient, I just met them today". Oh, really? So what have you been doing for the last 12 hours?
Don't even get me started on the ones that don't even speak English properly...
The amount of patience you have in these situations is admirable. You’ll get it sorted yet!
Exactly... Alex, your patience is outstanding.
Alex just started a new trend. Squatted Benz
There should be an a button for that
Does your Benz even squat bro?
Carolina Squat on Benz. I never thought I’d see one .
Shouldn't you be working on a video???
@Richard Hunting Airmatic is effortless compared to this, though
This series has confirmed that I do not want one of the v12 mercedes as a project.
I like sanity. It's nice.
The updated 07+ v12 amgs kept getting better and are significantly more reliable than these first couple years of the 65 cars. Still complicated and expensive, but having worked on them they're very stout when maintained well.
I'd love to have a Mercedes V12 some day, the ABC suspension I could do without
This car is the definition of when Scotty Kilmer says an "Endless Money Pit!"
Alex, this is some of the best automotive content I've seen on TH-cam. Most channels only show the wins. They don't show the long and frustrating process of working on complex systems or that 3 hours spent on a single broken bolt or bent electrical pin.
Exactly. The fails are what we learn the most from, not the insta-wins after replacing one common failure part. Alex is such a good guy, I hate to see him disappointed after so much time and effort. I can't imagine the pressure to succeed, since this is how he makes his full-time living now. I'm sure he'll figure it out.
Don’t give up, my suggestion is get a schematic of the hydraulic system so you know what lines are activated and when. Then get a set of pressure gages and T them into the lines and trace each circuit and manifold with your pressure gages till you find the circuit that is not reading the correct pressure. You partially traced your circuits to see if they were plugged, what you really need is to know what circuit is not pressurized. It’s a solenoid, manifold, or other switching circuit that’s not getting pressurized. An accumulator self destructing like that will have a lot more pieces than what you found. I expect there are pieces of accumulator lodged in a solenoid or spool valve.
Yep that is the best way to systematically figure it out, put your own line off the side with a gauge to see exactly where you stop getting pressure.
Having worked on control systems for the last 30 years, when something at that pressure fails, crap goes everywhere you don’t want it too or where you never thought it could go.
V12 engine and ABC suspension, the "best" combination for headaches. If an ex MB tech is having such a hard time working on this car, can you imagine what a regular Joe would go thru trying to get this car fixed at an indie mechanic or worse, the dealer?
Smfh I drive a tow truck and u just gave me anxiety
They design it for a regular guy not be able to work on it. They probably don't intend for you to fix. Only the dealer
Aren't alot of Indy mechanics ex techs?
The next generation of cl65 and s65 AMG is so much better to work on..
I live near lake. I would probably dump it there.
Replace those electrical parts in the back. It happened to my s55 amg and I was able to fix it by replacing the electrical parts on those block. I pretty much swap the electrical parts in the front to back to test it first before I fixed it with junk yard parts. Just a suggestion sir. No pressure going to the back on mine, Same issue as yours. I meant the solenoids on the block
I agree with this guy. If the mechanical/hydraulic stuff is good, move to electronic stuff👍
Yup, worked on airplanes for years and when the hydraulics were fine, we moved on to electrical solenoids.
Absolutely
This.
+1
Definetly the best video series on TH-cam this year! So real, un-sugatcoated. I am always excited when I see a new CL65 video come out.
i would double check those solenoids, even though though they're energising they could be mechanically knackered or the lower one could be stuck on and locking out the lift one
Holy crap!! THE SAGA CONTINUES‼️ This is better content than any Kardashian show or other "reality TV" episodes!! I'm praying to the AMG Gods! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🤘
Haha you mean Satan?
Love the smoking gun and victory with the front, you may feel defeated but don't forget that you got the front sorted. Move on to something else and come back with fresh eyes and I know you'll get it. Looking forward to what's next with it
Alex, thanks so much for this series. It has been heartbreaking from viewer's perspective, as we can all see how much of your time and emotion goes into a build like this. I know that you will get it figured out and will be celebrating with you in spirit when you have. Until then, keep up the great work and l absolutely love the channel.
Your content as always is so alluring and I'm so invested, I absolutely love your patience and method and you do not miss out or edit steps unless it was absolutely needed, your videos are genuinely tutorials but with a well warm welcome of humour, cannot wait to see your other projects in future 😊
This is straight up the best automotive TH-cam channel in existence. Keep it up, man.
then check out m539
@@averagejoe2842 he only sticks to BMW’s ...Alex has more variety.
Alex I know this car is the bane of your existence....but I love these videos and secretly hope this problem child leads to unlimited content.
I know what you mean. I'd personally love to watch this series. Especially if it wasn't me going through all the issues, haha
Trace the “cold” fluid from the back of the car to where it becomes “ hot” (fully pressurized). That’s likely where you still have blockage. I would guess in a valve block up front…. Just guessing…. Good luck. I respect your tenacity….
@Steve M - Non contact (laser) thermometer.
It could be front one block up
Bro a feel you , especially at the end , when you get to the I just don’t care point , it’s frustration, sadness , anger , and confusion all in one .
There are few things more satisfying than troubleshooting a problem and fixing it. This aspect of most cars is something that has been lost with the advent of all the complicated systems in modern cars. I enjoy watching a master (no matter the format) at his chosen craft.
I totally agree. I was a mechanic for 25 years started in 1980 you had to think logically in them days no computers to help, just good old fashion knowledge!! Shared by mouth, ow the good old days!!! 😄😄😄😄
Agreed, unfortunately with a car like this there may be only a half dozen people in the world that truly know that system to diagnose the fault he's having
I‘m a headhunter but I love to work on my cars, because it is so satisfying. Much more than my business.
@@DAN1E77 ya all you had then was a carburetor and a distributor easy as 123
@@serbia991 yep. A service kit was, plugs points condenser air filter oil filter and oil 👍👍 maybe a cap and rotor too. 😁😁
The last bit of this video and the raw emotion is all too familiar . I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who often feels like this. Even the greatest like Alex can be “defeated” My confidence is 1000% you will figure it out .
Alex, Your content is so wonderful! You share your struggles and we watch, learn, and are entertained. Thank you again for this and all your other videos.
Amazing to see you making these final tweaks - your builds are a great reminder to everyone that no matter what your level of experience, you can come up against a problem where the only way through is pure perseverance. Always worth it when you get past it tho
"Maybe I should get a reliable Audi" That was freaking awesome!!!! Lol
Or just buy an Toyota/Lexus :D
That made me laugh because I have an Audi S4 and it’s always broken haha
A reliable Audi would be one that’s 1/18 scale and sits on your shelf...
@@Lonnie91a you must not have a B8/B8.5...mine has been rock solid 😎🤙
This has been my favorite series’s cause it shows the mechanics Murphy’s law. Instead of everything going great. I’ve had a few vehicles give me a long term diagnostic hassle and people need to see it happens to the best of us. You got this man, great work!
Actually makes his channel and vids more “Legit”. Shows the failure that ones with working on cars and when you finally get it right, the joy!
The pain and frustration is so palpable, thank you for sharing. I'm very impressed how you know what every tube and pipe does. Looking at all that piping I can compare it to one of those rocket engines straight out of SpaceX
Keep your chin up! We’re rooting for you! The frustration is real and this is why we’re watching. Persistence is the secret weapon of greatness!
What I like to do for this issue is to take a little draino and put it into the ABC Fluid reservoir and it usually does a good job not only clearing these hydraulic lines but also conditioning them
I out Mtn Dew in my ABC, merica
Heck water will work just fine until everything is sorted too. No need to waste that expensive oil until it's good and ready. 😉
Lmao
I don't know what I'd do without you
Don't be a hater Sam, lol
I think every car guy feels this mans pain. We've all been there. I know you'll get it sorted! Good luck man! As a recent AMG owner and new to that world, this project has kept be glued. Keep at it!
Hands down you're my favorite mechanic on TH-cam. Your expertise and persistence is inspiring to regular guys like me.
Good luck man! Your way more patient than most. I would have gutted and gone coil overs long ago, I admire your persistence. 💪🏻💪🏻
Check the pressure limiting valve block in the front left wheel well - near the A pillar
Man, watching this, I literally felt the pain myself, as if it were my car. You do show a remarkable amount of patience and composure for such a problematic car.
Keep at it, you'll get it done!
Incredible amount of persistence from your end, I highly respect that. Hope you'll get it working soon !
I enjoyed the madness, I hope you stay the line and continue! Thank you for your efforts!
Man im just waiting for the day he fixes it and has a huge smile on his face, I feel you pain Alex when you have done almost everything you can imagine and spent 6+ months and it still doesnt work
The look of frustration when you went for your test drive, the look of defeat was in your eyes. I know you will regroup and eventually sort it out, and if not you have content for years 😉. Good luck, keep up the great channel!
Oh my god!!!! When is this build going to be complete?!?! I’m dying ugh! Huge props to Alex for the commitment been here since he bought the v12
I have watched many car channels on youtube over many years and your is easily amongst the best. I am tired off watching rich bozos take delivery of their latest supercar and posting a video. Your content is just so much more relatable and enjoyable. Well done mate
Alex, I've followed this car since Hoovie had it up for sale 9 months ago. It's been a journey to say the least, I'm glad you finally got it on the road, even if it was THE MOST dejected 1st drive I've ever seen on TH-cam.
I really feel for you Alex. I was on the spanner's for 20+ years but all low end motors not high end Merc AMG's but I've never come across such a hard to diagnose problem as this hydraulic suspension. Glad I only had to work on Land Rover air suspension ( my own lol)
The “Daddy, can we get ICECREAM” too cute
Ya I wonder if she got her ice cream haha
Lol yeah. But the cl needs some too. She's a complex mistress by the looks of it
U know dam sure she got that ice cream
He would have fixed it, if he went to get ice cream.
Hi Alex,As an 83 year old retired auto engineer & Benz collector I admire your tenacity to never give up!! Is it possible one of the solenoid valves is not getting the correct signal or voltage etc as you have checked everything else . i am glad it is you & not me!! GOOD LUCK & best wishes. Richard Turner, Bargara Qld Australia.
I'm absolutely rooting for you in this saga! It'll be such an amazing moment when you've finally fixed it.
As a CL55K owner, I need you to solve this. I love mine and my ABC works perfectly. I see all the pain your is giving you and some people urging you to give up on the ABC. Please keep going! That accumulator must have sent crap everywhere so logic tells me there is a plug somewhere in the back… hence flow is not happening. You can and will find it!
Excellent content. You’re absolutely awesome. Your passion and skill are bar none.
Thanks Stewart!
@@LegitStreetCars I have a 2001 S55 for sale. 93K miles. black on black. you wanna buy? its in Gulf Breeze Florida on Pensacola Craigslist
You're motivation to fix this CL65 is Amazing, to most TH-camrs and DIY guys, when most people would've gave up on this beast you keep pushing ahead. You have 90% of this vehicle done, just that rear suspension is in a boxing match with you, but I believe with all the knowledge with Mercedes and their systems you can find out what the culprit is and win.
Talking about commitment. Only admirations for you good sir. I hope you get this issue solved!
You're such good detective who never gives up. Plus, great technical info and tutorials for the rest of us. Well Done!
I love love these longer videos. Really let's us go along with you deeper into the journey and it doesn't feel chaotic or rushed like some other channels with rapid cuts and we are somewhat lost or just not really invested in what is going on. Of course ai think your channel appeals to older adults with longer attention spans.
Longer format is where it's at!
Subbed after seeing you posting about buying this on Hoovie's. Followed these diaries avidly- thank you for your persistance, it's so frustrating the way certain channels never finish the projects.
Stick with it- good luck!!!
I absolutely LOVE troubleshooting videos like this.
I hope someday you colaborate with Sreten from M539 Restorations. Yours channels are the best for Mercedes and BMW V12 content. Cheers friend!
Oh I'm planning a trip to Germany for sure. We are in talks now! Love that channel!
@@LegitStreetCars Oh yea!
Can't wait!!!!
Oh sweet!!!
@@LegitStreetCars Oh yes, music to my ears!
You saved me long before this episode. Your CL65 spec has my 'car-guy profile' all over it. Champagne taste on a beer budget my favorite uncle would admonish me...Jumped eyes wide open, instead to an XK8, and never looked back. Your adventure with this is riveting
IMO xk8 is the most gorgeous coupe ever made
@@jaromor8808 certainly in the post-Viet Nam War era
Man sorry for the headache but such a beautiful car. I like how you get excited when you find something that can potentially fix the issue. Can tell your a passionate Technician. Like your videos
Alex , don’t worry about the suspension, I’m sure you’ll figure it out, I’m just glad you make content about the up’s and. Downs of your journeys so people won’t be afraid to try for themselves, keep it up man.
Those 43 min go by fast, it’s insane how your content is seamless, I’m glued in
Since I found this channel, I've been following the Mercedes CL 65. You are a brave technician and you will eventually find out the solution for that rear end. Never give up.👍👏💪
Mate you never give up. You are doing well. I get frustrated when dealing with problems like you are having when working on cars. Sometimes you just have to sleep on it and come back to it another day. It’s amazing how many ideas you come up with in between.
Good luck.
The longer this series goes on the more Excited I’m getting to see this the burn some rubber!!!! She’s gonna make some massive pulls
Honestly, “liking” this video alone feels like I’m ripping you off. The amount of time, energy and thoroughness you’ve put into this project reinforces why you’re at the top of the pyramid for automotive YT content.
Alex, you are truly an inspiration to us all! Your patience and resilience is refreshing. The last part of the video where you are basically just done, resonates with a lot of us fellow automotive enthusiasts. However most of don't have anywhere near the amount of knowledge, skills and experience you have. Keep up the good work! You'll get her done!
I'm genuinely so so happy for you your hard work / blood / sweat / tears / and $$$$ .
Your so close to the end goal .
Big 👍👍👍👍👍 up from England
I love your channel, everything about it, and I love seeing you rescue cars. And maybe I'm a sadist, but this is, by far the most interesting thing you've ever done. It's a detective story wrapped in a detective thriller. Thanks for the great entertainment!
All hail the algorithm. Your stuff is my new replacement for Saturday morning cartoons.
Cartoons replaced with cartunes.
Never clicked on a video so fast. I want to see this thing back on the road!
Don't give up Alex! I really enjoy these series.
Never give up man you’re sooo close, everyone can see your frustration, just keep going
Alex you'll eventually figure this out. The good thing is it makes good TH-cam content
Yes! This is one of, if not the, best TH-cam series so far. It's afternoon for me, but the day is complete! #AlexAlmighty.
I agree! This is one of the best car repair videos I have ever seen. 😁
I try not to watch all the time so I can binge watch and get stoned! Fantastic channel....
Great Content.! Your level of persistence and patience is paramount for me. Hang in there!
This video series is my favorite right now on youtube. Great job, keep moving forward, you will get it figured out.
We honestly hope you’re okay we can tell this was exhausting for you, but it was entertaining and very helpful for us, so thank you for your hard work and take some time off to recover Lol. Best wishes for UK.
Indeed, every single video of the CL65 have been so epic!
I wish the technicians would get that excited to fix my CL haha
Bout a cl600 recently so your videos are informative I appreciate you 💯
You definitely need the fluid topped off and the air bled from the system. I'm not an expert but I work in the hydraulic industry. Air is your enemy, similar to brake lines.
Also, solenoid valves don't last forever. The valve internals could also be packed with debris. It doesn't take much to block up a valve, pretty sensitive
If I understood correctly there are screens before the solenoids, so that should stop anything large enough to clog them... at least in theory which isn't always reality.
I get a ton of satisfaction from watching your videos. I appreciate your determination and the effort you put in these videos. Much love from Saudi Arabia.
CL65 is too complex for a master MB tech to own. Mortals need not apply.
Dude! I watch all your videos and love them all, but this one had me feeling just as defeated as you looked at the end! You’re so freaking awesome at what you do and saying that from the LazyBoy of a DIY retired military mechanic who loves tinkering and fixing his own rides, don’t ever give up! I understand the frustration, but you’re almost there! I will say though, if I’m ever inclined to get a early model CL65 AMG, I might have to think about it first! 😂😂😂. I love my Black 2009 350 Sport and love doing most of the work myself. In the future, maybe you can be my knowledge source if there’s anything that could trip me up.
Alex, I admire your persistence! Hang in there.
You’ve got some extreme patience that’s for sure. I commend you for not going with coil overs. The fact that fluid isn’t making it to the rear is mind boggling
Thanks for posting all of this nightmare video. It’s all painfully familiar. I learned so much about ABC from years of fighting with it. Good to see I wasn’t the only one struggling.
Really glad I switched to coilovers.
Can't wait to see what the problem was since I know you'll figure it out! Love learning about Mercs on your channel since I recently bought a 98 SLK!
Wow, just wow. Crazy. Love your work. Keep it up. Take care
It's cool of these other mechanics to want to travel to help you figure it all out.
Specially Mercedes-Benz experts. Car Wizard would be one of them.
It reminds me of the time when I was fixing the hydraulic 4x4 system of my alfa romeo 164 Q4 (viscomatic). It can drive you totally nuts, but persistence is key. Keep it up, you are half way there!!
Your patience is incredible! I really need learn 1% from yours is enough! Respect
I would be measuring all the electrical solenoids/valves before I went any further. If the lines are all clear, what else do you have left?
Awe man! I was clapping and cheering for you when it looked like you have the front and rear hydraulic suspension working finally, and so disappointed for you when you realized the rear was not working. Dang-it! I do know one thing for sure you will figure it out eventually, no doubt in my mind brother.
I'm so gutted for you. Really love this saga, can't wait for the next installment, and hopefully the resolution to the problem. Thanks very much. 😃👍
Another brilliant episode, yep frustrating for you, but your patience and technical knowledge is so interesting to watch🇬🇧
You got this. It will be a story to laugh about in the future. Looking forward to the joy when you sort everything out!
The best and most raw content thank you sir
You are working on one of my dream cars. But after watching your videos , I'm afraid of buying one. 😁 keep up the good work 👍
The fact you are able to keep track of all these different pieces, lines, parts, etc is mind-blowing. Tip of the hat to you good sir.
Cool video man i been following this one like it was mine glad you working through all the gremlins💯
You make me appreciate my decision to buy a Lexus more and more every day.
You and me both
Your thin can toyota doesn't even compare to this v12 monster.
ltwargssf R monster? More like a very very fragile German paper weight...
@@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48 Guess the Pagani Zonda with the Mercedes v12 must be a paper weight too since it shares the same engine? Its not always about something running 300k for as little maintenance as possible.
Exactly
I know you will eventually get on top of this, your stubbornness will overcome the problem! I'm still keeping my fingers crossed Alex, keep up the good work.
Alex, " you are the best" this brings back memories of me rebuilding the suspension on my Bx 16v Citeron in the early 90's, I had many sleepless nights and I was a Peugeot Citeron Tech.
Check the rear solenoids or could be bad rear struts