My CL65 AMG FINALLY Made It To The Dyno But It Didn't End Well. I Love This Car!
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Valve Body to Case Torque Specs: 71 in-lbs
Trans Pan - 71 in-lbs
I couldn't find the valve plate spec but I did 5 NM.
Check for these codes. If you are in limp home mode and stuck in 3rd, you probably have a bad conductor plate. Also, check the trans control module for fluid.
P0720 - Output Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction
P0715 - Input/Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Transmission Conductor Plate or 13-pin connector issue)
P0700 - Transmission Control System Malfunction (Generic Code telling you there is a gearbox problem)
P 0716 P0717 P0718 - Input / Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction / Range Performance / No Signal / Intermittent - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
What's your long-term project?
My wife
Me and my dad are rebuilding GAZ 69A which is russian old off-roader which my grandfather bought from the army. It is over 60 years old!
I have a 2014 Volkswagen Jetta GLI comes stock with a 2.0T. Had the car since January of 21 and it’s been nothing but amazing but the 210hp wasn’t cutting it. Decided to put a bigger turbo, catless downpipe, intercooler and even with the stock fuel system i made shy of 400hp. Love the car to death and never see myself getting rid of it in the foreseeable future even though it’s been down since august due to something getting sucked into my engine causing cylinder 3 to get chewed up. Doing a full rebuild on the motor but with college and work it’s hard to find time to put it together and with college I barely get hours to make money to buy parts. So it’s gonna be a project for a very good while :)😂
Chrysler Conquest.
did my sierra over 5 years
currently doing my mondeo that's only taken 16 years so far...
looks so much better with the factory airboxes and engine cover
agreed
Nah
100%
It is his car,he is free to modify it as he sees fit.
@@t.l.robinson2162 agreed.
Factory air box definitely looks cooler. I would leave it as is
Man….
Can all of us who own one of these cars stop and appreciate how this guy shows the true story about how difficult they are?
These cars are not made poorly, they were just far ahead of their time.
I absolutely love my V12 CL but it’s been REALLY expensive and difficult to maintain.
I absolutely love watching this content.
Having watched you fix up this car, I'm starting to think AMG stands for At Mechanic's Garage.
All money gone
Over here in Europe Lexus is offering a 10(!) year warranty.
I don't see M-B or AMG doing that. They would go bankrupt!
My amg's in the past have been more reliable then any of my others
Perfect and the rest of the responses I love it
@@juiceda6 crazy it's because of all the computers and smog machine they're choking the car the dead and putting junk plastic in places. Look at how poor BMW reliability is as well they are both becoming junk
Get ahold of Ken at Dyno-Comp in Scottsdale AZ. They were able to get my2006 W220 S65 tuned. It was a pain as well as you could either write or just log. Could not do both. They still have the setup but not sure for how long.
Alex i am impressed. Heard you singing Bob Marley.
It feels great as a Jamaican to see a man of you stare on TH-cam singing Reggae.
Jamaica 🇯🇲 to the world!!!
CL65's are the ultimate sleepers! Love the valve body work on the 722.6. That's a super easy trans to do maintenance on. If you have one follow Alex's vids.
Another incredible, in-depth, detailed gearhead masterpiece.
I greatly commend you for continuing to put up with the CL. Hopefully when all is said and done it'll have been well worth the wait.
As a mechanic myself, I love your channel. You are thorough without being boring and you have great lighting and camera angles. I hope for my channel to be as good as this one day! Great Work!
I've been watching This CL65 AMG playlist for the last week or so and it has singlehandedly made me fall in love with this channel. Mr LegitStreetCars, keep up the brilliant work you do!!!!
Lunch time upload!!! You're doing us all a huge solid with the quality content.
I appreciate you watching!
A huge solid?!?! 😂😬
@@LegitStreetCars Finally another CL video! BTW, any chance you want a CL55 03 with some front end damage. Lots of good new parts on it which is why I haven't parted it out, it's almost worth saving IMO.
@@Ace33blue come on Chris: "a huge solid"!
I had a 2005 CL65 that I bought in 2007 CPO'd with 16k miles on it for $80k. I owned it for 9 years. I currently own a 2015 CLS 63 AMG S l and this is my ninth AMG. To date my CL65 was my favorite! I had a love hate relationship with that car. fortunately when I purchased it I got a Chrysler extended service contract and boy did they lose money on me! Everything on that car is so freaking expensive to fix unless you're a tech and can do the work your self. I eventually modified the CL65 with speed driven larger capacity intercoolers, and a speed driven ECU tune. The car pulled like a train! The torque was unbelievable! a powder coated the calipers yellow, and got carbon fiber rims. I also put carbon fiber mirror covers and rear lip spoiler. The car was beautiful! I kick myself everyday for getting rid of it but it just scared me owning that thing out of warranty. I had major ABC suspension issues all the time and a host of other small things that just kept happening and I treated that car with kid gloves. The look of it is timeless and it was super comfortable to drive with endless power. I'm jealous that you got one and with your knowledge able to restore it and enjoy it properly. If I lived near you I would honestly purchase one and make you fix it up for me...Lol 😂
The technical "chat" you did with O.J. reviewing Mercedes and BMW was great. That was quite a while ago but I found it really interesting in that it gave me an insider's viewpoint to cars I may never work on but am interested in.
@LegitStreetCars You have come a long way with the CL and to finally see it on the Dyno regardless if you could tune or not is a big step forward, well done...
Great video. VERY informative. Keep going Alex you really are getting there that’s going to be one of the most sorted CL65’s there is.
This CL65 is definitely one of the coolest classic cars on the market. It's "monstrous" in a good way. It's faster than a Ferrari and a Porsche 911 from the same era and it's a luxury cruiser. Something really crazy cool about it.
Bro! I just love how u explain and demonstrate ur subjects about cars in ur videos. Every word in ur videos counts and very informative also the small details are WoW for me!
Thanks for the GREAT content :)
Alex, thank you so much for the updates on this project car.
I really love these era of Mercedes-Benz cars, and this CL65 AMG is one of the most beautiful examples.
I understand your disappointment, when you discovered that your ECU was not programmable in the more flexible way.
I would also be, but you have spend many hours researching and building, and also plenty of dollars, on this amazing machine.
We believe in you, and I believe you will do it!
Cheers from Portugal, Alex!
Alex, I'm so into the way you handle everything this car throws at you. Just so that you could have the ultimate daily supercar. That I look forward to just about anything you announce your going to be doing on any of your AMG's & MB's.... keep on rolling. These are incredible video's!
An older V12 Mercedes with a leaky suspension dude you are a pain freak you got my respect
Alex, The hood struts may have failed because they were installed incorrectly. The should be upside down, so the oil inside can get to the seal and scraper. Is there an all aluminum radiator option for these cars? I would have got one in a OEM size with an external transmission cooler. Once that tune is leaned out some it should make real good power💪
well assuming the hood spends most of its time closed, it should be installed in such a way where the rod is lower than the strut body in the hood closed position.
@@zanastumasonis i ordered some hood struts for my truck from NAPA and i actually read the instructions. It says to mount them with the body of the strut up with the hood open, so the oil in the strut gets to the rod. When the hood is being opened and closed the seal and scraper is sure to be lubed by the internal oil.
@@PANTYEATR1 I didnt say I dont agree with that, I just added to it
@@zanastumasonis of course bro. I just wanted to clarify. One has to wonder why these hood\truck struts fail like they do when they aren't worked that hard. When i see some worn hood struts, first thing i do is notice how they are installed.
@@zanastumasonis shouldn’t we assume most of the time the hood is open ? 🤪😁
You have an interesting way of approaching your project! You have a true love for cars! I have an 05 C230 Kompressor that I replaced the head gasket on. Many of the problems you faced are reminiscent of the challenges I faced. The project ended up taking several years. She is running good now with a small oil leak out the bottom. I am going to live with it since I will have to hoist the engine, drop the cross member, disconnect the steering and cooler lines just to re seal the oil pan. Don't want to know why I needed to drop the oil pan! My project was a 4 cylinder and I thought that was bad! Watching you put together a 12 cylinder had my head spinning! Great video! Thank you for taking the time to share some of your knowledge as a Mercedes tech. 🚙
Love every minute of all your videos. I look forward to them every week. Cheers
I've used these kits for 722.6 valve body so many times . They are truly awesome
Great job alex, euro cars are a love/hate relationship. Love em when they are running right, but hate them when you need to repair them due to the higher cost and over-engineering to replace a $15 part you need to tear 1/2 of the engine apart to get to it.
That 722.6 trans is the same one in my '14 Chrysler 300c hemi car! Yes, conductor plates can have issues, changed mine as a matter of cheap insurance, FCP Euro stocks the parts and trans filter kit, plus revalved and resprung the valve body and put AMG blue top solenoids in it. Shifts firm and works great, also took off trans cooler return line and ran 8 qts. clean oil through the torque converter as per M-B factory specs for trans service. It should work well even in front of that V12. Do change electronic solenoid valve o-rings, they do take a set after awhile in service!
Love this car despite its rep for breaking, one of the coolest! Thanks for another cool video from LSC!
Alex, these videos are so satisfying to watch. Thanks for sharing your V12 journey with us!
13:32 I KNEW that song is what plays in Alex's head and other's like it. He has such a relaxed attitude and seems like he's calm and doesn't even throw tools and get crazy when he has catastrophic failures of huge expense etc. Good ol Bob of the Marley Variety! LOL. I love it!
I truly enjoyed this video, Alex and I learned a lot once again! Thanks for sharing 👍😀👏🏻
I had one of those valves go bad (different trans). Everything else worked fine, but it wouldn’t lock up in 5th (od). I had 3 shops ignore me and tell me I needed an entire rebuild for $3500, but finally found a guy that listened to me and replaced it for $200 and its been good for years.
Home from work, relaxed on the couch and now time to throw LSC on the big screen. Cheers!!
Been waiting for this.....Thanks! Love your content.
Always love the Benz content.... Thanks Alex
The engine bay looks so much better with the original parts and cover back on it. Still love to watch your content on this car, V12 AMG Mercs are becoming so rare now.
Man u can't be uploading on a week day. Got me all happy thinking today is Saturday 😆 🤣 😂
Watching all these for the 3rd time. I really hope you finish this one and think of selling. She’s my absolute dream car and I’d fall over to get this one. I have a 98 Lexus SC400 I resorted and it feels like my cheaper less awesome version of the 215 CL65. Love everything you do!!!
Well done Alex another informative video as well as entertaining keep up the awesome content and looking forward to the next video. God bless you guys and as always be safe 👍
Your channel is so helpful to us dyi guys!
Thank you!
I replaced the plug and conductor plate on my 2000 E320 (w210) and it was easy. I didn't do the sleeves in the body though, I didn't know about them. I have 133K miles on the car and about 30K on the conductor plate and plug. NO mechanical component such as the transmission is really "sealed for life" unless you consider the component to be disposable when it need not be. There aren't any shifting issues at the moment but I will do the sleeves at 150K. Thanks for letting me know about them. I did change the solenoid to blue tops in my 2013 Challenger NAG 1 (722 transmission) and they did firm the shifts up from stock Mopar. As the engine has since then been supercharged and tuned it is comforting to know they have been changed though at the current power level, I am pushing the design power handling for the trans and likely a beefed up trans is in the near future.
Nice video. Nice job on the transmission service. I know that an AMG C215 is a complicated car to work on but you somehow make it look easy. I would love to get my hands on a nice one.
4 air filters soaking up all that heat... just extra parts to worry about. 2 air filters on a twin turbo I get it. But proper size piping and a larger single filter would work best
good infor alex good luck on the tuning it love watching your upload
Love watching your new uploads when I get home from school
Watched with great interest the CL65 videos, front to back. I was especially interested in the transmission segment in the dyno run video as I own a Jag XJR that uses a Mercedes transmission and also lacks any dipstick. I've had several leakage issues from the trans and this vid goes a long way in helping me diagnose the leaks. Finally, I was looking forward to seeing how the intake pin hole was repaired and smoothed over but that segment was not covered! Shame on you, Alex!! We want to see EVERYTHING you do to rectify these sorts of issues! Love the series, all the same.
Awesome video. Will save this for later when/if I overhaul my 722.6 for my w201 build.
Bloody hell your content is brilliant. Perfect mix of personal introspection, hilarity, and sheer brute competence. Bravo.
Alex did you consider data logging your CL65 with something like a Zeitronix data logger? Send the data to somebody like the Mercedes Swap Shop. They could send you a remote flash file that you could load to your ME2.7x ECU using a Galleto 1260 cable. The Mercedes Swap Shop has a video on TH-cam that shows you how to load the flash file.
Excellent guidance on the transmission subject, really enjoyed the video. Good luck for the modified software, maybe reaching out to one of the tuners here in ‚ze Vazzaland‘ could help solve the issue. 🍀🤞😎👍
Keep the great content coming Alex!
I just finished my motor and trans mounts last night, looking forwards for a new radiator!
Love the progress on this car!
Great treat having a Thursday video💪 Great job. Still my favorite channel 😇
I put off changing the struts on my GTO, I had them in a bag in the back seat, and procrastinated for months. I finally changed them and was stunned at how easy they were to change.
Thanks for your videos, I just got into euro cars and makes it feel a lot less intimidating to work on watching you work on them and pull them apart
Keep on keepin on Alex!
I have really enjoyed this series on this car. Wow those things are alot of trouble to fix. Im totally amazed you were able to do what you did. And remember, dont drink the water in Chicago, its full of Lead.
you and my dad taught me a lesson lol, so basically I was working on our gate for our driveway that opens and closes,, the arm that makes the gate move stopped working, when I went to put everything back together I went rambo mode, had the gun full speed... I've learned when I'm dealing with these fragile things to take the time, keep in mine my dad has all the wrenches, tools, toolboxes but i just choose to use a dewalt drill and a torxs attachment lol. keep up the great work, currently working on one of our cars the family hauler besides our supercharged audi q7, our 07 dodge grand caravan has a cylinder 2 misfire... gotta do some testing... keep up the great work alex!
The singing made me smile. Thank you.
Excellent work.
CL65 is the gift that keeps on giving.
Future me (who put his summer wheels and tires on the same week this was filmed probably) sitting here watching past Alex jinx the crap out of the entire mid west with that spring has sprung comment SMH. I had to turn on my garage heater to wash my car tonight because the water kept freezing on the car. In all seriousness, this has become one of my absolute favorite automotive youtube channels. I love these types of cars and the way they're presented. I love the mix of upgrades, detailing, and maintenance. This year I bought my first German car. 2013 S4 6MT. Right now it's right around 480 WHP. on E40. The recent supercharger videos are making me really want to take the next step and upgrade to a ported blower and hook up the meth kit that I have the hoses and wires installed for. Maybe then I'll have a shot at one of those sweet E55 AMGs if there's an LSC Midwest Meetup. Thanks for all the content Alex. We appreciate you.
Thank you for the info as you know I am big on fuel mileage so all the info on cdi engines is appreciated
2008 ml320cdi
2006 e320cdi
great stuff thanks
Honestly in my opinion, that air intake filters look horrible. Looks like something a Honda tuner dude would do. Lol
Well that's just like.... your opinion man- The Dude
agreed. look really bad and i think he thinks so too, thus why he removed them
@The Friendly Ghost like most intakes you have negligible gains. Especially since stock is basically a ram ambient air intake.
Your assumption is incorrect.
@@danielraul1989 not only they act as air intake rams but they dimensioned with complex fluids dynamics finite elements software to reduce the noise using resonances and back pressure without losing performances
already done the radiator - take the cross bar out, they made it easy for this - bolts that hold the brackets on each side that insert from the front - are a PAIN!
Great video as usual
Alex you inspired me to get an e55, I've had it for a week and it is amazing!
I had the opportunity to purchase a 2002 w220 that was in fairly decent condition. It was awd and needed a front axle and had a code for a conductor plate issue. Ran smooth and shifted like it should. The code just scared me away cause I figured it was gonna need a transmission rebuild. After watching this, I would’ve felt better about going forward with the purchase and doing the conductor plate myself
I’m following in your footsteps Alex. Way down in NZ
Good work mate
My work colleague bought a 2003 CL500 & he found a guy here in Ireland who had a tuner in Germany log onto his laptop to help with the tune. The car was from Japan so had to tell car the different fuel & I think he got it remapped as well for more power. It’s doable but takes a lot longer than any typical car
Awesome video. Very informative and helpful.
I don’t own a foreign car. Foreign cars like BMW or Mercedes are just out of my budget. A friend owned a Mercedes 420 SEL I think it was an 89. Gorgeous car, but it had a rear main seal leak. Dealer in the 90’s was going to charge 2500 to change out. My friend just kept a case of oil in the trunk and added as needed until he sold it. 😂😂
New V12 project. Equal length headers m120 v12, manual transmission swap. Lightweight flywheel. And a Lightweight platform. Let's go budget front engine Zonda
German TH-camr Jp performance does exactly this in a e500 w124 right now
Gonna have to try this AG1 stuff. I had to quit coffee due to acid reflux and need something else for an energy boost.
Alex you’ve made amazing progress with this car so be Proud of that….
It may be 65 degrees today in Chicago, but I have travelled from just outside Milwaukee to Waupun WI this afternoon, and we had a temperature of 35 degrees and sleet and snow this afternoon Alex!
According to Renntech: the MB dealers will flash the ECU back to stock if you bring in your car and it has one of their tunes on it. It could've had a Renntech tune in the past. You can call them and they will look it up via the VIN. (I did the same for my 2006 S65 AMG)
1980 Mark 6. 55k on the odometer. My dad's car. My prom car. We shipped it New Jersey to Amsterdam for a family vacation in 82. It was an attraction everywhere we went. Most of their cars were the size of the trunk. Unfortunately here in NC, I haven't found anyone that'll touch it. Honestly, I'm skeptical of 40yr old digital cluster panel n variable venturi carbs myself. But that's what restomods are for. Right?
Great info on the 722.6 service ,,,a little bit hidden in this video on the CL65.
alex split these videos up. I am 59 years old and I cant watch longer than 15 minutes without getting bored and I like this car alot of it is close to my s 500 but 38 minutes dam
kudos for trying to tackle the All Money Gone... love your content.
Wow, on the cusp of 700K subs.
Continue the instructional videos with great passion.
Glad I found this channel... thinking of pulling the trigger on a 2006 S65 with 80k on the clock
Did you end up getting it?
wow ive been waiting for this
I'd really love to get a cone filter setup for my E550 some day. Used to have an Acura Legend and with cone air filter that engine sounded awesome
Interesting that the inner plungers on the valves don't need to be replaced. My thought would be to replace everything concerning the valves if you're in there anyway. Intriguing that those parts don't wear as much as the valve sleeves seem to do.
Really like everything you do. Something that rang out for me with Fluid motor union is that OJ doesn’t have an in house tuner and you had to send this out?
Loved the video ! Did I miss the link for the description on mercedes later model transmission flush and maintenance?
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I absolutely love your CL videos…every time i start to mi my old one i just watch one and remember the can of worms that it ALWAYS WAS…..the CL is not for the amateur or the faint of heart!
"No messages on the dash'". That for me is a big WIN ! Enjoy the sunny weather ! DOH, and then one came up !
The check engine light popped back up
I have always loved these CLs. I think a 55 would be the one I would try to find after all your issues.
417hp at the wheels lol with standard tune
I would be more than happy with . It’s an amg
V12 beautiful car and no doubt when you get those twin turbos making boost will be an
Absolute monster that’s as smooth as a turbine . The amount of work you have put
Into this car is impressive and when you
Have finished the tune would be a dream car
For just about anyone I know I would love to own it after all the improvements you have done on it and with a set of pipes or without
Like most of your other cars is super car
Territory. I think it’s awesome that you
Always complete your projects.
I have a few projects myself and would
Very much like to quiz you on some
Ideas to get some good results on a
Budget . I would love to put a whipper on my
211 e550 that is a nice car but due to myself not looking at what I was buying thought it
Was an amg as it has amg on the guards and boot lol . I didn’t know anything about merc,s
So silly me . Because the e63 is an amg naturally aspirated I didn’t think the e550 with amg on the boot etc wasn’t? But now know what to look for still a nice car and with 85,000km is still like new although 15yrs old.
I found a Audi B6 avant 1 owner 5sp Manuel
1.8T black with black leather interior but blows lots of smoke so blown turbo should be a fun project awd think 500 hp is the goal
Your videos have fantastic detail keep them coming
Count your blessings man. You fixed the ride. It runs well. Didn’t blow up on dino….One step at a time and now you can enjoy it at least!
The check engine light on the way home probably isn't anything good...
liked the transmision part
I'm continually amazed at how Euro manufacturers (and seemingly them more than any others) manage to squeeze so many small points of failure into their cars - and in such a way that when failures do occur it exacts a repair cost exponentially higher than the value of the failed part itself.
Not trying to 'hate on' Euro cars, to be clear. I guess my point is that you'd think mgmt at Benz/BMW/etc would be displeased to see so many little 'gotchas' sidelining their customers' vehicles.
Its one of the most reliable auto transmissions ever made by any manufacturer.
They are all engineered to fail now. The Germans taught it to the rest of the world, but at least Mercedes up to the mid 2000s are worth fixing because there is nothing like it to this day that compares to the driving experience.
That's because Euro manufacturers try to squeeze as much power and efficiency as they can in the smallest package possible. That's how you get this V12 in a sedan with hydraulic/air suspension taking up space in the engine compartment. Japanese manufacturers don't even have anything close to offer, and US cars are huge compared to most Euro cars.
@@marski9956 So true.
@@marski9956if by huge you mean enough space to work on things then yep. Lol. They are large for sure but we aren’t packed into a sardine can and that definitely accounts for some of the size. Idk if you’ve ever seen a ford GT or not but…. Pretty good job of packing a lot into a small package
I remember one of your videos being titled " you can afford this " 😒 I'm glad i didn't listen or I'd be broke on just the fixes. Either way man still love your videos and long time subscriber as they're very entertaining watching someone else deal with that unreliable mess. 💪😎
You too can afford this car if you spend 100% of your free time over the next 2 years rebuilding every single piece of this car
@@sumofty yea pretty much😂
I had a 2004 cl 500 for over 4 years from 2007 to 2011 I changed the battery once and the brakes twice bought it with 50000 miles sold it with 92000 never a problem one of th the best cars I ever owned also the tires it was a great car
I just purchased an 05 cl600 with 38k miles. It honestly feels brand new, not sure where I should even start but replaced the plugs and radiator, may replace the abc fluid but notmsure if what's in it now is bad. Alex I purchased this car because I have learned to wrench on my euro cars myself, I was always so intimidated and would only wrench on my lexus gx 470's. I have an ML63 and have replaced everyhting in that except the engine and tranny lol. Keep up the great work, you are truly an inspiration, you have a solid foundation and you care about people.
I changed a rad on my 2001 330ci years ago. I had noticed a dribble of coolant on my drive so bought the rad and expansion tank. When I got th rad out, it had completely bowed at the bottom. As in, it wasn't even remotely flat bottomed anymore. Unreal that it hadn't completely ruptured and dumped all the coolant out 🤣
disappointing to hear they have the ME2.7, wasn't aware that ecu was even used at that time. Hopefully it gets all sorted and you guys are able to tune it in person so you can progressively increase the performance. Good luck!