Man is this thing fun to drive!! Those turbo noises are truly amazing! Check out our Instagram #fasterproms sneak peaks inside! We tuned this thing with the mentality of an old school TPI car but we have a long way to go. SO much potential! we got some help coming and gonna make some MORE POWER!
I have a 2006 Ford f150 Harley Davidson with the 5.4 and I've only been able to see the lil handheld junk tuners for my truck , I guess not many people are tuning older 3v 5.4s.....
Hey guys when I was doing turbos a long time ago when we needed to figure out the springs in the toolbox that were not marked we drilled a hole in our workbench and used a fishing scale to pull on the spring through the hole to get a basic pound reading it was really close to right most of the time!!!
Listen to me please!!! Give Paul's Performance a call in Jackson, MI. He was an engineer at Ford and has tested that 4.6 to the point of blowing many many motors at drag strips for Ford. He knows the weak points of this motor and it is the oiling system. He can definitely give you some pointers on what will make your life a lot easier in tuning this car. It's only a phone call - hear me out!
this. especially a 2v. if the engine was previously built, mayyybe 550 600hp but in that case the motor would be buuiiilllttt. i dont think stock 2v heads would get them over 450 hp.
I love how you are showing old school tuning methods. New platform, classic tuning, and making it safe through the learning curve.... I'd say you killed it! Can't wait to see where this goes from here.
I took my factory exhaust manifolds and swapped them to exit out the front of the engine. I welded on some junkyard ball and socket exhaust couplers to connect my y-pipe into the single turbo. The turbo had almost no lag. It was also only a T-3 flange. All low and mid power sort of like an EcoBoost engine.
That’s a great start. It’s not all about power. The sound, responsiveness, things learned, drivability, cool factor and fun factor are just as important. I’m liking this car so far.
With all your tuning knowledge geared towards fuel injection and more specifically LS engines I would love to see you start with something with a carburetor, tune it, swap carbs, build it up, do everything you can MSD ignition, the whole thing and then swap it over to one of the carburetor style fuel injection systems and then tune that and see how far you can really take it versus what you did with the carburetor. I think it'd be really awesome to see you learn along the way and build on top of the amazing amount of knowledge you already have!
Fun to watch you guys.... I am new here. You should take it to an experienced tuner! They would have the software plus there are ways you can add timing or pull it out, get fuel mixtures right, and much more a guy that does this for a living and knows what he is doing is able to accomplish!! Don't get me wrong I know you have to learn somewhere. When you figure out the boost each spring makes then paint or mark your springs and write down the total boost each spring combo makes. Good luck and keep trying!
I question myself why these types of videos are so awesome to watch. Its not a video I can send to many people i know but I enjoy watching all them. *Opens Beer* ahh yeah on to the next video.
You have the best outro in video... all hyped up watching for the disaster, or at least the struggle... then the relaxation of the GR's ... beautiful...
I highly recommend you pressure test that intercooler Jeremy. I work in a fabrication/welding shop and I've had lots of experiences with prebuilt intercoolers that leaked like no other. Especially if they are used at all. What I've seen happen is most guys tig welding aluminum do not taper off the weld correctly and leave craters at the termination point. Over time those start to leak and crack very bad. I've repaired hundreds of coolers all with that same issue whether it's intercoolers or radiators. These leaks cause a much more severe pressure drop/loss in the cooler core. I'm a huge stickler with my tig welds and make dang sure I do it right once. Maybe this will give ya something to try.
Dig it...I want to do a twin turbo on a 95 , f250, with a 460 , Fuel hog I know ,, But the torque range would be awesome... And also because everybody's doing LS motors,, or Cummins diesel swap.. 460 Ford motors A loyal,, faithful they start every time.. As Pegg would say From Zip Ties & bias plies...
Do you remember when you got the car the guy said it was set up for boost? Do you think he has already gapped the rings and that is why you have lower compression?
Never say sorry for knowledge without tech. you sir are an artist and a mechanical dynamo. I do it all the time. make things great without relying on too many scanners, tuners and software. the ear and know how wins again. thanks for this video.
To be fair he didn't give the correct name, The "PID's" he was talking about is short for (Parameter Identification Data). A closed loop PID system(proportional-integral-derivative) is something different. Like what a car does with the O2 system, it uses that info from the sensor and makes an adjustment to the fuel. He was simply talking about Parameters he was able to log.
@@bigce I was actually wondering if i should try tuning cars.. LOL.. But i guess that it wouldn't be such a thing like i do with little quadcopters 😅 Thanks for the reply!
The subwoofer(10") on my computer's 5.1 Logitech speakers was rumbling pretty loud when the Crown Vic was running, and it's not up all the way!! 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘
Oh man this makes me want to do this to my crown vic. I manual swapped it recently and this would be a great way to make more power easy. Once you get the tuning software it should make more power more easily. I'd suggest not going over 420whp. 450whp is the max of the 4.6 2v and 4v cranks before you get into the danger of it snapping. How much did it cost to turbo your vic? I'd be very interested in copying your set up.
Got a good name for her "The hand-me-down Crown" And oh boy, sorry if this is a low blow, but freakin Salvation Army is killing Uncle Samantha in terms of reliability!!! 😂😂😅😛😝
I had a 98 mustang gt with a 01 crown Vic 4.6 (bone stock) with the good 8bolt crank.. with twin 57s, on 12psi I made 405hp and like 490tq at the tire. Was good for a 12.0 here in Utah ...probably could have got a 11.80 out of it in better air. . You have a built engine... crank er up! Bet your cool to 600 with stock heads and like a victor jr intake manifold
A better way to control boost is to use C02 gas and plumb a pressure sensor into the port to get the boost you want from all the back pressure generated in the cap, the gate does open when you don't think it does and that where you command more c02 to make sure it stays shut.
I feel a forged Teksid or WAP on the way. I'd do cams/springs and an intake manifold and get a used Cobra 03-04 bottom end and have fun. With a turbo you'll see minimal gains messaging with the PI 2v heads. Maybe do a valve job if you're already in there but otherwise don't waste your time.
th-cam.com/video/orQKXrfvXBo/w-d-xo.html Ported heads, cams, ported intake, 75mm T/B, forged bottom, 9.5:1 comp. I missed the earlier video. Seems like it's ready to go after supporting mods. A GT or SVT Focus fuel pump should be done too if not already.
I like your channel don't get me wrong. That second intake manifold you put on is the newer of the two version. That's the version that works with the higher horsepower 4.6. Granite it ain't much higher. Well the only thing I can suggest is move to the 32 valve 4.6
If I remember correctly from back in my CVPI days, I believe that aluminum intake was known to pick up 20 hp over the stock plastic manifold. Was a pretty popular mod for the 4.6 back in the days.
Instead of drilling holes, you just put a tee on the hose to the wastegate and then put a needle valve to adjust the amount of leakage. Much easier and you can actually control it.
Dude great video I love how you teach us tuning. I have a question tho, why why why put the air filter in the hot engine compartment? Depending on your intercooler I would think starting with ambient air should give you at 2-3% more power, maybe more in real world.
7:24 Jeremy does a full pull. The Ford, in the only language it knows, screams out for mercy: "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding" We can only assume this means "Kill me now" (Also just throw a haltech in and let scotty fix it)
Awesome video! And it's great to see some old school tuning techniques in action!! Also I was wondering how much of the boost do you think it's using ? I know you said the cams had a lot of overlap and i didn't know if maybe some of the boost was being blown out the exhaust
Woud like to see you guys try an Electric Turbo/Supercharger. Not sure how many companies make them, but I saw a couple on the web. Would be cool to be able to adjust the boost with just a knob in the car, or if fancy enough, change it throughout the power band (like how you currently adjust spark advance and fuel pressure) Plus, at the track you wouldn't have to rev up the engine as much just to get the turbo spooled. And I would think it would be easier to fit in the engine compartment, because you wouldn't need to deal with exhaust pipes or oil lines....
Tko600 with 410s it was a fun back road street car. Horrible on highway with 410s it actually ran out a gear in 1/4 in 4th needed a 3.73 with the 6k set redline
Thank you Jeremy really enjoyed the video and so thankful that your music was great too so tired of shady music from other people's videos lol Not that that's the reason I watch your videos you are a great tuner :)
Man is this thing fun to drive!! Those turbo noises are truly amazing! Check out our Instagram #fasterproms sneak peaks inside! We tuned this thing with the mentality of an old school TPI car but we have a long way to go. SO much potential! we got some help coming and gonna make some MORE POWER!
Fasterproms clock the mass air and put it before the turbo
Fasterproms love what you do Jeremy
In this case "PID" means Parameter Identifier ;)
I have a 2006 Ford f150 Harley Davidson with the 5.4 and I've only been able to see the lil handheld junk tuners for my truck , I guess not many people are tuning older 3v 5.4s.....
Tee in a small aquarium air valve for your reference bleed....
Hey guys when I was doing turbos a long time ago when we needed to figure out the springs in the toolbox that were not marked we drilled a hole in our workbench and used a fishing scale to pull on the spring through the hole to get a basic pound reading it was really close to right most of the time!!!
Now that's smart af.
👍
You wouldn’t have this problem with a Subaru. It would have blown up first pull and then you could have went home to spend time with your family.
🤣🤣🤣
Yesssir
01GTB Daily hahaha gtfoh 😂😂😭🤧
@@Terminator4000 I have a buddy that is a master tech for Subaru and says they are shit
Speed up the video n play some Benny Hill music,funny as hell
Listen to me please!!! Give Paul's Performance a call in Jackson, MI. He was an engineer at Ford and has tested that 4.6 to the point of blowing many many motors at drag strips for Ford. He knows the weak points of this motor and it is the oiling system. He can definitely give you some pointers on what will make your life a lot easier in tuning this car. It's only a phone call - hear me out!
Im a ford guy. If you make 450whp on a 4.6L and you dont blow it up you are doing great lol
this. especially a 2v. if the engine was previously built, mayyybe 550 600hp but in that case the motor would be buuiiilllttt. i dont think stock 2v heads would get them over 450 hp.
Your comment made me look up world record 4.6l engine...I found this lol you see how he dropped cleetus' name th-cam.com/video/PscPeF5lB7I/w-d-xo.html
My buddy has made over 800whp on stock 2v heads.
I read i Hot Rod article about the 4.6L, it can be done up to 750+ bhp. they broke it down to 3 stages if you wanted to try it out. great article.
X CrankyOldMan his was cams, rods, pistons, turbo and fuel. There's an old video on my channel from years ago.
free flowing exhaust is an UNDERSTATEMENT!!!
How do you only have 242k subscribers???? Your channel is awesome! I watch you and Cletus religiously. Keep up the great content man!
Clay Leto I’m shocked too, that he only have 242k subs
Yeah you get to say stuff they see here.
This is very impressive considering you put it together with mostly spare parts and items donated. And in 1.5 days! You guys are legends. 😁
I love how you are showing old school tuning methods. New platform, classic tuning, and making it safe through the learning curve.... I'd say you killed it! Can't wait to see where this goes from here.
I took my factory exhaust manifolds and swapped them to exit out the front of the engine.
I welded on some junkyard ball and socket exhaust couplers to connect my y-pipe into the single turbo.
The turbo had almost no lag. It was also only a T-3 flange.
All low and mid power sort of like an EcoBoost engine.
Don’t know where that is with the doggos at the end...but I want to go to there. Beautiful piece of land.
It's his home
Turkey in the background. Nice af.
That’s a great start. It’s not all about power. The sound, responsiveness, things learned, drivability, cool factor and fun factor are just as important. I’m liking this car so far.
With all your tuning knowledge geared towards fuel injection and more specifically LS engines I would love to see you start with something with a carburetor, tune it, swap carbs, build it up, do everything you can MSD ignition, the whole thing and then swap it over to one of the carburetor style fuel injection systems and then tune that and see how far you can really take it versus what you did with the carburetor. I think it'd be really awesome to see you learn along the way and build on top of the amazing amount of knowledge you already have!
Fun to watch you guys.... I am new here. You should take it to an experienced tuner! They would have the software plus there are ways you can add timing or pull it out, get fuel mixtures right, and much more a guy that does this for a living and knows what he is doing is able to accomplish!! Don't get me wrong I know you have to learn somewhere. When you figure out the boost each spring makes then paint or mark your springs and write down the total boost each spring combo makes. Good luck and keep trying!
I question myself why these types of videos are so awesome to watch. Its not a video I can send to many people i know but I enjoy watching all them. *Opens Beer* ahh yeah on to the next video.
The sound of the exhaust is awesome!!!!! Front exit is rad!!! The Vic is comming a round.
You have the best outro in video... all hyped up watching for the disaster, or at least the struggle... then the relaxation of the GR's ... beautiful...
Cleatus became a fan with neighbor and now Jermey with this. Both definitely respect ford now ... and dare I say both are now favorite cars?
Love this build. I have a 2003 Marauder and I want to do the same thing. Looks great. Sounds even better.
The sound of the motor is fantastic
I highly recommend you pressure test that intercooler Jeremy. I work in a fabrication/welding shop and I've had lots of experiences with prebuilt intercoolers that leaked like no other. Especially if they are used at all. What I've seen happen is most guys tig welding aluminum do not taper off the weld correctly and leave craters at the termination point. Over time those start to leak and crack very bad. I've repaired hundreds of coolers all with that same issue whether it's intercoolers or radiators. These leaks cause a much more severe pressure drop/loss in the cooler core. I'm a huge stickler with my tig welds and make dang sure I do it right once. Maybe this will give ya something to try.
LMAO "Like it has AIDS." LOL anything I tell somethere o2 sensor is lazy now I'm telling them it has AIDS. Lol
Tanks ChopShop I had to go back and rewatch to see if I heard that correctly 😂😂
Tanks ChopShop 😂😂😂😂
Hope the other cars in the shop don't contract aids lol
302hobronco as long as they keep their rods away from tailpipes, they’ll be ok.
@@302hobronco imagine if that ford infects Leroy 😥
Dig it...I want to do a twin turbo on a 95 , f250, with a 460 ,
Fuel hog I know ,,
But the torque range would be awesome...
And also because everybody's doing LS motors,, or Cummins diesel swap..
460 Ford motors
A loyal,, faithful they start every time..
As Pegg would say
From Zip Ties & bias plies...
Great Video. Having both the 2004, and a 2008 Ford Crown Victoria P 71's I am interested in more power of course. Thanks.
Do you remember when you got the car the guy said it was set up for boost? Do you think he has already gapped the rings and that is why you have lower compression?
Yes
Never say sorry for knowledge without tech. you sir are an artist and a mechanical dynamo. I do it all the time. make things great without relying on too many scanners, tuners and software. the ear and know how wins again. thanks for this video.
Thanks for posting God bless you too. Logos rising!
Love the dogs at the end of every video and the vic is coming along.
Just send it....great videos bro glad to see the fleet Comeing together can't wait for the s10 biuld and for sam to come back
I like how Jeremy know's his PID's and also uses a drill or measures a springload with his hands :D What a machine!
To be fair he didn't give the correct name, The "PID's" he was talking about is short for (Parameter Identification Data).
A closed loop PID system(proportional-integral-derivative) is something different. Like what a car does with the O2 system, it uses that info from the sensor and makes an adjustment to the fuel. He was simply talking about Parameters he was able to log.
@@bigce I was actually wondering if i should try tuning cars.. LOL.. But i guess that it wouldn't be such a thing like i do with little quadcopters 😅 Thanks for the reply!
Omg those dogs fetching in the field in the end! Quite relaxing!
That's awesome, can't wait to you get the correct software to properly tune the Vic
The subwoofer(10") on my computer's 5.1 Logitech speakers was rumbling pretty loud when the Crown Vic was running, and it's not up all the way!! 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘
Same with my tower speakers and 12" sub. Sounds like I was in it with him
Managed to plug a brag about computer audio into a car video. Nicely done
Sounds so awesome with surround sound
Good job bud love what your doing keep up the good work god bless lost my nephew in iraq happy with your work with our troops thank you
A squirrel chasing a groundhog... you never know what you'll find on Faster Proms 😁
Oh man this makes me want to do this to my crown vic. I manual swapped it recently and this would be a great way to make more power easy. Once you get the tuning software it should make more power more easily. I'd suggest not going over 420whp. 450whp is the max of the 4.6 2v and 4v cranks before you get into the danger of it snapping. How much did it cost to turbo your vic? I'd be very interested in copying your set up.
Turbo Vic definitely had neighbors on exhaust noise that spool sounds insane!!
I am sure this has been stated already, but the PI intake can handle 15-20 lbs of boost and 600 whp on a 4.6 with ported PI heads.....
600 whp is considering it's a built bottom end....anything over 450 whp is playing with a bomb on these engines.
@@Jsmith9619 It does have forged internals.
It’s not stock internals.
@@msengineeringdavid3702 correct, I know it is.....made that statement before the internet mechanics corrected me, lol
@@msengineeringdavid3702 I am aware, thx
Digging the intros very professionally done . Did you hire someone Jer or did you do this yourself ?
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All in house brother!!
Fasterproms impressive ma man . Really digging the content !!!
I like the car appreciate the effort into it. Fun to watch. Ford turbo 364 hp a 4.8 ls 1000 hp..
Gm guys don't know how to tune Fords, they aren't meant for dumb hillbillys.
Get the Bullitt Mustang intake set for the 2V. You can boost the engine as hard as you want if the tune is right. 15 psi is a good start👊👊👊👍
Great video and fun build to watch. Keep it up!
Got a good name for her
"The hand-me-down Crown"
And oh boy, sorry if this is a low blow, but freakin Salvation Army is killing Uncle Samantha in terms of reliability!!! 😂😂😅😛😝
I had a 98 mustang gt with a 01 crown Vic 4.6 (bone stock) with the good 8bolt crank.. with twin 57s, on 12psi I made 405hp and like 490tq at the tire. Was good for a 12.0 here in Utah ...probably could have got a 11.80 out of it in better air. . You have a built engine... crank er up! Bet your cool to 600 with stock heads and like a victor jr intake manifold
A I been waiting on this video I have a 98 crown vic I dream of doing this too.
Dosent cost much bro!
@@damiancadiere2676 yeah I know just always get side tracked
@Jr ALEXANDER nawl I have like 4 cars it's kinda my toy I barely drive it
2008 mercury. Same here, not cheap. unless u can do it your self its gonna cost u.
@@BassAddict91
You can't afford even afford gas for your piece of shit.
Sounds good the way it is. Keep up the good work man, we know you’ll figure out how to tune it and find that power.
I dig the exhaust sticking out a little bit
A better way to control boost is to use C02 gas and plumb a pressure sensor into the port to get the boost you want from all the back pressure generated in the cap, the gate does open when you don't think it does and that where you command more c02 to make sure it stays shut.
Those ball chuckers have gotta be the best dog invention ever!
Look into Edelbrocks 4.6 2V intake. It is aluminum as well but has short runners and better flow than either manifold your working with.
I foresee A Galaxy vs Turbo Vic video upon Cleetus seeing you dusting it.
I’m really liking this build. I’m not a ford fan but this is just badass
Dam man. Good job on the channel. Almost 250k subscribers!! Keep them coming
Cant wait till u get the software to get her right. That things gonna make aome good fun power.
I love this answers so many questions
I feel a forged Teksid or WAP on the way. I'd do cams/springs and an intake manifold and get a used Cobra 03-04 bottom end and have fun. With a turbo you'll see minimal gains messaging with the PI 2v heads. Maybe do a valve job if you're already in there but otherwise don't waste your time.
th-cam.com/video/orQKXrfvXBo/w-d-xo.html
Ported heads, cams, ported intake, 75mm T/B, forged bottom, 9.5:1 comp.
I missed the earlier video. Seems like it's ready to go after supporting mods. A GT or SVT Focus fuel pump should be done too if not already.
Is the intake causing the boost restriction? Love the video. Great to see crown vics get some love. Keep up the great work.
That exhaust sounds so. freggin. awesome.
That engine is bulletproof!!!
I like your channel don't get me wrong. That second intake manifold you put on is the newer of the two version. That's the version that works with the higher horsepower 4.6. Granite it ain't much higher. Well the only thing I can suggest is move to the 32 valve 4.6
Super cool to see you try to tune you guys tune black beauty manually.
LOL..... drilling a hole to adjust boost.... reminds me of the good old days when we used aquarium air hose and adjustable valves to "control" boost.
Dont forget about soldering inline resistors to the injectors
Good video thanks 🙌
After watching cleetus and jeremy. . I have never wanted a crown vic so bad in my entire life
According to the light and sound on the dash it's not ready to turn it up 😄 awesome video jeremy always enjoy this channel very informative!
It's just the seatbelt light and chime
I've had that same Autogauge tach for the last 17 years in several different cars. For a less than $50 tach I can't believe how good it's been.
Software is a pain in my hate metric bolt butt....lol! Great Video and Thank You for sharing the details!!!
Production value going up.
Oh man those 2 valve 4.6L’s sound soooooooooooooo good. I miss both of mine :( 02 f150 and 04 mustang gt. Definitely my favorite sounding motor.
Definitely a fun vid to watch. Can't wait to see it really rip
If I remember correctly from back in my CVPI days, I believe that aluminum intake was known to pick up 20 hp over the stock plastic manifold. Was a pretty popular mod for the 4.6 back in the days.
Hell yeah brother nice job!!
I'm assuming that coyote engine cleetus bought originally for neighbor isn't around anymore?
Yolodouchebag supercharged it and put it in a fairmont.
its in his crown vic!
@@Swagoi Cleetus put a 5.4 gt500 engine in the vic
@@karlhopkins713 yup
What faimont
Instead of drilling holes, you just put a tee on the hose to the wastegate and then put a needle valve to adjust the amount of leakage. Much easier and you can actually control it.
Jeremy, I think your tach has turned even more to the right since the last time you had the Vic on the dyno😁 Torque Turned Tach or "TTT" 🤣🤘👍
Keen to see what you can do with some tuning software !
Thanks for the great content!
About 22min 30sec in...am i the only one that saw the skateboard er roll by lol
... twice.
I was wondering what that was about too.
It was his kid both times
That was my intrest level also. Dad can we just blow it up already
I saw a Corvette today with your logo on it in Maryland
Should put exhaust cutout on it so you can open it up when u want it rowdy.
Dude great video I love how you teach us tuning. I have a question tho, why why why put the air filter in the hot engine compartment? Depending on your intercooler I would think starting with ambient air should give you at 2-3% more power, maybe more in real world.
7:24 Jeremy does a full pull. The Ford, in the only language it knows, screams out for mercy: "ding ding ding ding ding ding ding" We can only assume this means "Kill me now"
(Also just throw a haltech in and let scotty fix it)
Any updates?
finally! been looking forward to this!
I love how that thing looks
1 month later and i now have a twin turbo 2007 p71 on 8 psi 342 hp on 92 and 393ft lbs of torque. It's in the shop rn getting full exhaust done.
Content only keeps getting better. Keep it up famotski
Awesome keep leveling up to race Neighbor
Awesome video! And it's great to see some old school tuning techniques in action!! Also I was wondering how much of the boost do you think it's using ? I know you said the cams had a lot of overlap and i didn't know if maybe some of the boost was being blown out the exhaust
Woud like to see you guys try an Electric Turbo/Supercharger. Not sure how many companies make them, but I saw a couple on the web.
Would be cool to be able to adjust the boost with just a knob in the car, or if fancy enough, change it throughout the power band (like how you currently adjust spark advance and fuel pressure) Plus, at the track you wouldn't have to rev up the engine as much just to get the turbo spooled. And I would think it would be easier to fit in the engine compartment, because you wouldn't need to deal with exhaust pipes or oil lines....
Fulll pulll💪🏼
I had a 04 mustang with a little 1.6 Kenne Bell and at 9psi it made 410hp, 409tq, 12psi 443hp 421tq, she didn't live long at 12psi on stock bottom end
Tko600 with 410s it was a fun back road street car. Horrible on highway with 410s it actually ran out a gear in 1/4 in 4th needed a 3.73 with the 6k set redline
Not a Ford guy... at all. But I approve. Looks like a really fun project!
Good vid! Your a genuine dude Jeremy 🤙🏾
We love this trial and error stuff tuning grandpa
This just proves how much I miss Uncle Sam. Love the vids. Thanks
Thank you Jeremy really enjoyed the video and so thankful that your music was great too so tired of shady music from other people's videos lol Not that that's the reason I watch your videos you are a great tuner :)
Awesome intro and content!
Came here for boost and Retrievers. Not disappointed 👍😄