I had one of the early bazookas and in fact still have but I love this one, for me the H pattern feels a little more precise and then obviously having bonus of sequential. Picked mine up from the workshop and met Dave and the team for the first time very professional setup and great personal service, can’t be bear imo
Sadly, mine lasted less than two weeks before the sequential shifting failed. Currently awaiting my replacement, which I should hopefully get next week.
@@KarlGosling I already sold it when I bought a Bash Pro (you should review that shifter! Also love it). But even with an active shifter I'm tempted to get this one cause ei loved the first model so much.
Karl, I now know you are just as fanatical as myself! I had the original bazooka handmade by Ben and just got the new one and I absolutely love it, but yeah that thing with the screws on the collar got me too! In fact I did have to tighten the nut a bit from shipping since there isn’t a complete contact circle they are more prone to vibration loosening. With our motion rigs that’s more of an issue.
You have cost me so much money Karl. And I don’t regret a single purchase! Between active belts, haptics, and more, your reviews are so detailed and thoughtful. Now, if only my job would allow me to stay at home long enough to use these toys :) Thanks for all you do mate
lol I know that feeling! Have far less time to race than I'd like, life is always in the way! Apologies to your wallet also but thanks or the kind words!
Beautiful. Its expensive but, as someone who's been dissapointed with lower quality sim gear in the past, it might actually work out cheaper in the long term. Buy once, sorted for the rest of my sim racing life. So when it's time to replace my current shifter.....
I'd be more than happy to review it mate, the extra functionality is definitely welcome but the look, finish, feel and build quality are nothing compared to this... What we need is BDH to add that feature.
@@KarlGosling Are you it isnt as good as this one ? Many reviers said it felt pretty good, hard to say. I personally like the more compact and smaller size, but everyone is different I guess
Holy $#!+ This is nicer than the unit in my real car. Was this built in the building next door to the f1 factories with their leftover bits 😂 God tier sim equipment... very nice.
That thing looks absolutely absolutely amazing, but I feel like there really should be an easy way to change the shifter length. Maybe something like a heim joint at the most complicated? Or really just include 2 or 3 different sizes of shorter threaded sections to go between the base and shift nob- that way it would be possible to mix and match/ add and subtract for the desired height/ throw, and it would just be some extra pieces of cheap metal tube... I know it probably sounds nitpicky but it's so close to being perfect, and the premium price, makes it suck that much more to see something missing that could easily be there (like that nylock nut). Still, I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I had a rig worthy enough to put it on.
Excellent review, you are very good. I love this gearbox and I have the version only at h. I have the temptation to buy this too and Dave know it 😂, but resist. Only one question, the part to H compared with the previous one how is it? Thank you
I wish I could send my first gen shifter back to get modded with the sensors and the new boards Might just end up buying one of these seq versions down the road instead and sell my gen 1
Absolutely great vid Karl! Honest question...which shifter, in your opinion, has the better, more authentic feeling for H-Pattern shifting between this one and the Pro--Sim Quaife? And if you had a Quaife would you sell it to get this one?
I owned a ProSim until I bought the first BDH H1 "Bazooka." There's a lot of difference in the feel of both. I Ultimately chose to sell the ProSim as the BDH felt more authentic for the cars I like to race, for example, Lotus 49, Ford Escort. The ProSim is an excellent shifter, l it felt more like a big luxury car, BMW 7 series with Manual transmission than the rawness of a race car, which the Bazooka did. It's not a decision I regret. The BDH just suited my needs better. At the end of the day, it is subjective. Some prefer one or the other, although having said that, I do know there's a number of people who have swapped over like I did. Of course there is also the price tag. The BDH is still a big saving over the ProSim, and now offers more bang for buck with the new dual mode H1-SQ. Recently, I used one of these new H1-SQ shifters on a friend's rig, I put my order in the next morning and can't wait to receive it.
@@strattwanger Thanks so much for your reply. I don't know if it's me just being crazy, but it seems, based on what I see and hear in the video, that the BDH has a bit more "clank" in its feeling when engaging in the gears. Whereas with the Quaife, at least on mine, has this sort of "sloshy" type feel. I would prefer something with a bit more "thunk" or "clank" when engaging the gears. Am I correct in this assumption? The other thing is, while yes you can tighten up the gears in the Quaife and adjust the tension, the problem is when you do so, gears 5 and 6 become much MUCH stiffer than the other 4 gears, to the point where I can't even engage the shaft into position. Did you have this same issue strattwanger?
@@isamuu99 Yes I did !! though Id forgotten, the BDH is far better as all the gears are equally adjusted with the tensioner. The Sloshy feel is a good way to describe the ProSim feel. Again, the BDH is definitely a more positive engagement with a very satisfying Clunk on engagement. Another thing worth noting is the customer support with BDH really is second to none.
@@strattwanger Thanks so much for your reply mate! WOW and here I thought it was only me. Your confirmation on this issue has made me rethink whether or not I want to trade my Quaife for the BDH. I'm giving it some serious thought now.
Not really what it's for, that should be felt through the rig via transducers or actuators... otherwise when you let go of the shifter to steer the car your feedback is gone which would feel very odd! lol
This is a lovely piece of engineering art. I just can’t spend this much on a shifter that still isn’t active in any way. It looks amazing and I’m sure it feels amazing but when others shifters with clutch bound lockout exists this is just too much money for what it offers.
It depends want you want mate, a more realistic feeling shifter that is infinity better quality or a clutch lockout for the odd time you miss shift... One day we will have both I'm sure! :D
@@KarlGoslingNothing compares to the quality on display here. It’s a piece of engineered artwork. I just feel like I can’t buy an end game shifter this expensive until an active one of this quality is available. I could only validate spending this much on an endgame product.
I mean, the knob itself isn't as important(unless you're fiddling with it enough that any issues will compound) but you do want it to be at least a certain quality. don't want it to be jumping around all over the place on it's return when you're just gently rotating. but you don't need german engineered, lubricated by ancient elephant oil or anything stupid like that. just a non-shit potentiometer, and a knob you can actually grip. Looking at this, are you sure it's not over-engineered just a bit? This thing is $1,250 before shipping... A sim setup that includes this is going to be more expensive than an actual car...
@@KarlGosling To make sure I don't misspeak(type?), and to be clear, I'm not really saying that this is a bad product. I'm also fairly certain by a quick glance that between the materials, labor, and R/D that went into making it, that price tag might be fully justified. The question is whether anyone who's dad isn't an oil barron or a youtuber/influencer that will be given/loaned it will actually get their money's worth out of it. Imagine a dining room chair. You can get a dining chair with a padded seat for $60 off ikea(can likely find cheaper, but I'm attempting to avoid bias). Or, you can get a Low Back Cherry Cherry Chairs: Modern Farmhouse chair for $360 that lacks the padding(each, tho they say you can get a discount for buying multiples). Yes, one is made in a factory, the other is hand made. That's why one has a more expensive cost/price tag. The issue here is with value received. Out of the two, my ass is going for the one with padding that's 1/6th the price. There's a difference between being anal retentive enough to ensure that your rma department has nothing to do, and overshooting so far that your product is laughably expensive.
i have to confess being one of those amp knob snobs. but i would have really liked a tear down to get a clearer idea of the working principle. otherwise i can simply not imagine how this is not just an overenginered 40e aliexpress shifter. excuse my ignorance in advance
It's milled from solid billet... I doubt they used discount internals 😅 These are bespoke hand crafted high precision units bro, just looking at the housing it's clear this was engineered with love and care. Imagining this is similar to mass produced products, let alone Chinese garbage, is simply comical.
There are a number of photos out there showing the internals of this beast, I can assure you it's every bit as beautiful inside, possibly more so, as it is outside
Costs more than my entire 20nm direct drive rig. Looks nice, would love to have one but there's no way on earth I will ever be shelling out that much for a shifter. Don't care how good it is.
A shifter does what a shifter does, but not without a clutch. Without a clutch a H-shifter can do very little to nothing at full throttle, and after half the video you do not mention the clutch once. An H-shifter working without the clutch has become obsolete at that price. Because of the Bashpro , and it needs a clutch to be pressed and released to do what a shifter does.... It even changes from to sequential with the push of a small button and voice notification. I believe your followers should be told in a video like this what is currently the best product on the market, and that is the Bashpro for implementing so well the coordination with any clutch and their shifter through simhub.
I agree the functionality would be great to have but you cannot compare the two, the build quality is like a toy compared to this mate, not even in the same ball park.
@@KarlGosling Ok, I agree that build quality and design looks better, so not to my liking, but the Bashpro is by no means the quality of a toy, its robust as hell, as it expects to be bashed, design is very raw, which makes it even more suitable when I see the raw interiors of GT Racing cars. I hope you get one to test, its really a stepping stone that finally manages to solve the forgotten clutch in a very elegant way by software, designed and manufactured in the UK.
Active lockout is useful... if you miss-shift a lot. I prefer a much higher quality and more realistic shifter... and just change gear correctly, as you should anyway.
Did everybody just forget about the gated shifter look for fuks sake?! Can we have something classy looking like the TH8R from Thrustmaster with all this engineering. Any decade now? 😐
As this has sort of a "gearbox" inside that just wouldn't work, you could stick an H gate plate on the top but it wouldn't look right... this looks classy AF IMO!
I had one of the early bazookas and in fact still have but I love this one, for me the H pattern feels a little more precise and then obviously having bonus of sequential.
Picked mine up from the workshop and met Dave and the team for the first time very professional setup and great personal service, can’t be bear imo
Agreed mate!
Thanks for the review mate!🤝
That shifter looks like a masterpiece! 😍
It really is!
This is awesome, congrats to Dave on this evolution of an already fantastic shifter!
Many thanks, Adam.
Sadly, mine lasted less than two weeks before the sequential shifting failed. Currently awaiting my replacement, which I should hopefully get next week.
Having owned the first iteration, it is well worth the money! I am so tempted to get this one.
I'm sure you'll get a good few quid back for yours second hand.
@@KarlGosling I already sold it when I bought a Bash Pro (you should review that shifter! Also love it). But even with an active shifter I'm tempted to get this one cause ei loved the first model so much.
@codyrunsfast1 you do know BDH are developing an active shifter, don't you?
@@strattwanger I've heard. But being under development and being currently available can differ by months/years.
what a great chifter I want one too. They are already sold out on the European site. I come from Holland. your films are great.
Karl, I now know you are just as fanatical as myself! I had the original bazooka handmade by Ben and just got the new one and I absolutely love it, but yeah that thing with the screws on the collar got me too! In fact I did have to tighten the nut a bit from shipping since there isn’t a complete contact circle they are more prone to vibration loosening. With our motion rigs that’s more of an issue.
That's not a gear stick. That is a work of art.
Isn't it!
I forget to add, congratulations on getting through the whole review featuring knobs, shafts and stiffness without saying anything inappropriate 🍻
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You have cost me so much money Karl. And I don’t regret a single purchase! Between active belts, haptics, and more, your reviews are so detailed and thoughtful. Now, if only my job would allow me to stay at home long enough to use these toys :) Thanks for all you do mate
lol I know that feeling! Have far less time to race than I'd like, life is always in the way!
Apologies to your wallet also but thanks or the kind words!
I have had one since lunch and it is an absolute work of art. The best upgrade for any SIM rig.
Totally agree!
Beautiful. Its expensive but, as someone who's been dissapointed with lower quality sim gear in the past, it might actually work out cheaper in the long term. Buy once, sorted for the rest of my sim racing life.
So when it's time to replace my current shifter.....
Yes, exactly!
Holy Moses that it some peripheral device there I’m impressed
I spent the same for an actual transmission lol I totally get it tho I bet it’s worth every penny if you have the extra scratch
Much better than the original which I have but can't rotate to side mount on my rig. I'll buy one eventually
Can you use corner brackets to side mount, low and on the outside to clear your seat?
You should really review the bash pro. With the lockout feature its probably the H shifter on the market right now
I'd be more than happy to review it mate, the extra functionality is definitely welcome but the look, finish, feel and build quality are nothing compared to this... What we need is BDH to add that feature.
@@KarlGosling Are you it isnt as good as this one ? Many reviers said it felt pretty good, hard to say.
I personally like the more compact and smaller size, but everyone is different I guess
£1100 looks very reasonable for that level of engineering .
Holy $#!+
This is nicer than the unit in my real car.
Was this built in the building next door to the f1 factories with their leftover bits 😂
God tier sim equipment... very nice.
It really is great isn't it!
Hello Karl,great video.Any chance you will be reviewing the Aiologs H-Pattern shifter?
I can ask them mate.
That thing looks absolutely absolutely amazing, but I feel like there really should be an easy way to change the shifter length. Maybe something like a heim joint at the most complicated? Or really just include 2 or 3 different sizes of shorter threaded sections to go between the base and shift nob- that way it would be possible to mix and match/ add and subtract for the desired height/ throw, and it would just be some extra pieces of cheap metal tube...
I know it probably sounds nitpicky but it's so close to being perfect, and the premium price, makes it suck that much more to see something missing that could easily be there (like that nylock nut). Still, I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I had a rig worthy enough to put it on.
Interchangeable shafts shouldn't be too hard to implement in future iterations maybe.
It's very simple to change the length of. It's unscrews and you can add another or put a longer one in.
Does the lever lock if you don't press the clutch?
No mate it's not an active shifter.
@@KarlGosling oh ok thanks
Excellent review, you are very good. I love this gearbox and I have the version only at h. I have the temptation to buy this too and Dave know it 😂, but resist. Only one question, the part to H compared with the previous one how is it? Thank you
It's the same as before mate.
@@KarlGoslingThank you
I wanted to see it mounted on a rig, the right way (and/or the wrong orientation). Other than that nice review, thanks
You do see it mounted on my rig, twice, as I'm using it.
Oh I see the b roll now, at 10:20. Thanks
Completely unnecessary. Total overkill.
Not worth the money.
I MUST HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!
I wish I could send my first gen shifter back to get modded with the sensors and the new boards
Might just end up buying one of these seq versions down the road instead and sell my gen 1
I forgot to ask.. how’s the seq shifting feel? I have a magnetic oktane shifter right now and it’s not bad but doesn’t feel real/mechanical.
Feels exactly the same as the H pattern shifting only it returns itself to centre.
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The BASH pro shifter says hello 😁
Not even close when comparing quality.
Do get to keep it or send it back?
Im waiting for you to review the new aiologs h shifter!
I've asked but they are not interested.
A bit sad they didn't include a e-clutch at that price
It's nice, but I'm just waiting for an active shifter
I need this for counsil... (playstation)
Absolutely great vid Karl! Honest question...which shifter, in your opinion, has the better, more authentic feeling for H-Pattern shifting between this one and the Pro--Sim Quaife? And if you had a Quaife would you sell it to get this one?
I owned a ProSim until I bought the first BDH H1 "Bazooka." There's a lot of difference in the feel of both.
I Ultimately chose to sell the ProSim as the BDH felt more authentic for the cars I like to race, for example, Lotus 49, Ford Escort.
The ProSim is an excellent shifter, l it felt more like a big luxury car, BMW 7 series with Manual transmission than the rawness of a race car, which the Bazooka did.
It's not a decision I regret. The BDH just suited my needs better.
At the end of the day, it is subjective. Some prefer one or the other, although having said that, I do know there's a number of people who have swapped over like I did. Of course there is also the price tag. The BDH is still a big saving over the ProSim, and now offers more bang for buck with the new dual mode H1-SQ.
Recently, I used one of these new H1-SQ shifters on a friend's rig, I put my order in the next morning and can't wait to receive it.
@@strattwanger Thanks so much for your reply. I don't know if it's me just being crazy, but it seems, based on what I see and hear in the video, that the BDH has a bit more "clank" in its feeling when engaging in the gears. Whereas with the Quaife, at least on mine, has this sort of "sloshy" type feel. I would prefer something with a bit more "thunk" or "clank" when engaging the gears. Am I correct in this assumption?
The other thing is, while yes you can tighten up the gears in the Quaife and adjust the tension, the problem is when you do so, gears 5 and 6 become much MUCH stiffer than the other 4 gears, to the point where I can't even engage the shaft into position. Did you have this same issue strattwanger?
@@isamuu99 Yes I did !! though Id forgotten, the BDH is far better as all the gears are equally adjusted with the tensioner. The Sloshy feel is a good way to describe the ProSim feel. Again, the BDH is definitely a more positive engagement with a very satisfying Clunk on engagement. Another thing worth noting is the customer support with BDH really is second to none.
@@strattwanger Thanks so much for your reply mate! WOW and here I thought it was only me. Your confirmation on this issue has made me rethink whether or not I want to trade my Quaife for the BDH. I'm giving it some serious thought now.
I've never used the Prosim mate so can't say.
Btw is that heusinkveld handbrake?
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3:40 thanks Karl, I’m out. Looks beautiful.
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Shame there's no feedback for engine vibration
YET ....
Not really what it's for, that should be felt through the rig via transducers or actuators... otherwise when you let go of the shifter to steer the car your feedback is gone which would feel very odd! lol
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This is a lovely piece of engineering art. I just can’t spend this much on a shifter that still isn’t active in any way. It looks amazing and I’m sure it feels amazing but when others shifters with clutch bound lockout exists this is just too much money for what it offers.
Watch this space ..... 😬
It depends want you want mate, a more realistic feeling shifter that is infinity better quality or a clutch lockout for the odd time you miss shift... One day we will have both I'm sure! :D
@@bazookabill9232Ok I’m properly excited now!!!
@@KarlGoslingNothing compares to the quality on display here. It’s a piece of engineered artwork. I just feel like I can’t buy an end game shifter this expensive until an active one of this quality is available. I could only validate spending this much on an endgame product.
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I mean, the knob itself isn't as important(unless you're fiddling with it enough that any issues will compound) but you do want it to be at least a certain quality. don't want it to be jumping around all over the place on it's return when you're just gently rotating. but you don't need german engineered, lubricated by ancient elephant oil or anything stupid like that. just a non-shit potentiometer, and a knob you can actually grip.
Looking at this, are you sure it's not over-engineered just a bit? This thing is $1,250 before shipping... A sim setup that includes this is going to be more expensive than an actual car...
Way over engineered... all the top end sim gear is! 😀
@@KarlGosling To make sure I don't misspeak(type?), and to be clear, I'm not really saying that this is a bad product. I'm also fairly certain by a quick glance that between the materials, labor, and R/D that went into making it, that price tag might be fully justified. The question is whether anyone who's dad isn't an oil barron or a youtuber/influencer that will be given/loaned it will actually get their money's worth out of it.
Imagine a dining room chair. You can get a dining chair with a padded seat for $60 off ikea(can likely find cheaper, but I'm attempting to avoid bias). Or, you can get a Low Back Cherry Cherry Chairs: Modern Farmhouse chair for $360 that lacks the padding(each, tho they say you can get a discount for buying multiples).
Yes, one is made in a factory, the other is hand made.
That's why one has a more expensive cost/price tag.
The issue here is with value received. Out of the two, my ass is going for the one with padding that's 1/6th the price.
There's a difference between being anal retentive enough to ensure that your rma department has nothing to do, and overshooting so far that your product is laughably expensive.
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i have to confess being one of those amp knob snobs. but i would have really liked a tear down to get a clearer idea of the working principle. otherwise i can simply not imagine how this is not just an overenginered 40e aliexpress shifter. excuse my ignorance in advance
It's milled from solid billet... I doubt they used discount internals 😅
These are bespoke hand crafted high precision units bro, just looking at the housing it's clear this was engineered with love and care.
Imagining this is similar to mass produced products, let alone Chinese garbage, is simply comical.
If I took it apart theres a chance I may not be able to put it back together, so I'm not risking it!
@@KarlGoslinghahaha, i understand
There are a number of photos out there showing the internals of this beast, I can assure you it's every bit as beautiful inside, possibly more so, as it is outside
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Costs more than my entire 20nm direct drive rig.
Looks nice, would love to have one but there's no way on earth I will ever be shelling out that much for a shifter. Don't care how good it is.
Yeah like me buying a Lambo, I'm sure they are great but no way I'm selling my house to get one... deep pockets only!
That must be some setup you got 😂
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A shifter does what a shifter does, but not without a clutch.
Without a clutch a H-shifter can do very little to nothing at full throttle, and after half the video you do not mention the clutch once.
An H-shifter working without the clutch has become obsolete at that price.
Because of the Bashpro , and it needs a clutch to be pressed and released to do what a shifter does....
It even changes from to sequential with the push of a small button and voice notification.
I believe your followers should be told in a video like this what is currently the best product on the market, and that is the Bashpro for implementing so well the coordination with any clutch and their shifter through simhub.
I agree the functionality would be great to have but you cannot compare the two, the build quality is like a toy compared to this mate, not even in the same ball park.
@@KarlGosling Ok, I agree that build quality and design looks better, so not to my liking, but the Bashpro is by no means the quality of a toy, its robust as hell, as it expects to be bashed, design is very raw, which makes it even more suitable when I see the raw interiors of GT Racing cars.
I hope you get one to test, its really a stepping stone that finally manages to solve the forgotten clutch in a very elegant way by software, designed and manufactured in the UK.
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Wake me up when this has an active lockout for that price.
Active lockout is useful... if you miss-shift a lot.
I prefer a much higher quality and more realistic shifter... and just change gear correctly, as you should anyway.
You'll be sleeping and dreaming a long time if you think you'll get an active shifter with BDH design and build quality for that price. 😂
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Did everybody just forget about the gated shifter look for fuks sake?! Can we have something classy looking like the TH8R from Thrustmaster with all this engineering. Any decade now? 😐
As this has sort of a "gearbox" inside that just wouldn't work, you could stick an H gate plate on the top but it wouldn't look right... this looks classy AF IMO!
@@KarlGosling I just miss the look of the TH8R and would fancy myself something like that from Fanatec and others.
I'll admit it, its half the cost I thought it was going to be, but still pretty stiff. Lovely looking bit of objet d'art though.
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Unwatchable due to Ads of 30+ seconds. Insub.
That sounds like a YOU(tube) problem lol.
TH-cam must hate you, I got no ads this video
I'm not sure what "Insub" means but I hope you find your ad-less channels to watch mate! 😀
lol. Just put an actual gearbox in your rig. Much cheaper and not much bigger.
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