@@highlyfe600 just because you have intentional players doesn’t make the competition championship a world championship. The winners of the FIBA World Cup & The Olympics are the world champions. The winner of the NBA Finals is the NBA champion.
@@MatthewJParkerwell said. To go even further the best teams in europe (EPL, La Liga etc) compete in a tournament called the UEFA Champions League. At the end the winner is called the European Champions.
Noah said nothing incorrect, a world champion either wins the world championships or olympics games i.e. best in the world, the NBA is the best domestic league in basketball (by a mile) but its still a domestic league. Having foreign players in a league doesn't make it a worldwide competition... now should he have brought this up right after winning the gold medal, different topic altogether
Is he supposed to wait to tell the truth? Its bullshit for those players to think they are on his same level if they have not actually gone out there and won an international competition. He isn't saying that the US Olympic Basketball team isn't world champions. if some of those players are in the league, then they can call themselves world champions. Otherwise, the others can keep quiet and hope they get on the Olympic team next year.
@@gldavis72 False. It’s not the same 7 guys every year. Every year there is a collegiate athlete or, in the case of Erriyon, a high schooler, that goes pro in track. Every year there are new faces; however, when you are at the elite level that Noah is in, very few make it up to snuff and are consistently great. People age out and and youth comes in. Noah is YOUNG. He isn’t even 25. This isn’t some grisly senior racer. Your comment could easily be applied to basketball. In fact, it is even worst in that sport because since it involves a team, not everyone is carrying equal amounts of weight at all time. Noah has one bad day and his fortunes change entirely. It’s all on him at all times. No breaks.
@@Logany5 It is a Team sport. The USA Basketball team has not won every International tournament it ever played in. They barely won Olympic gold. It is not a foregone conclusion that the NBA champ is best in the world, it is only that in some American minds
@@macdonaldkuchocha2834the only time they didn’t win it is when they went in to it not caring because they wanted to just get ready for the nba season. That was the whole point of when Kobe joined in 08. It was as to bring back the sense of pride in these tournaments because the nba American players looked down on it. The next best basketball league is in Europe and their best team would be at best a lower tier team in the nba. Remember only about 1% or less of international players are actually good enough to make the nba. Tens of thousands international players try to make the nba and only 120 are currently in the mix or are on an actual roster. If the nba actually add international teams they would beat them by double digits if the nba teams actually took it seriously. It doesn’t really matter to me if the nba stopped saying it because we all still know that they are the best in the world even if people would rather be politically correct. Now in the nfl I can say with out a doubt that they are the best in the world because the talent gap is so wide the international teams wouldn’t even be able to compete with our D1 collegiate teams and would probably drop down to D2 just for the sake of their players health. When you are literally a the beat in the world at what you do you can say what you want. The nfl and nba are not going to stop saying it because they know there’s no teams in the the rest of the world that could beat them and take that claim. You can either feel some way about it or just enjoy the entertainment because regardless at the end of the day they are still the best in the world in those respective sports 🤷🏾♂️.
@@Logany5What's your point?? The best soccer players playing in Europe don't call themselves world champions because it's more like an all star game than world tournament
I’m disappointed in a lot of these sports shows. Being a domestic league and being a international league are 2 different things. Acting like Noah Lyles is a nobody is hilarious 🤣
💯 ! I don’t know how this is so hard for people to understand , NBA is the best league with the most money and there is no debate but you can’t be world champion if you are not playing the world
@@thefitgurutvbro, I’m a track athlete in college but I didn’t get into the sport until my jr year of hs. Ball always been my FL. I’m picking runs over a track workout any-day and I say that to say I have no reason to be biased. Noah isn’t wrong at all. Whenever track has its U.S championship meet the winners are labeled as US National Champion but when the NBA has a championship it’s ‘world champs’? They can argue it’s foreigners in the NBA, okay cool. What about at NCAA championships? HELLA foreigners in college but they still get struck with US national champs as well. Idk why everybody so hurt over the truth.
@@slavoskiwright4498the NCAA is different. Even tho their foreigners they’re clearly not the best players in the world, in fact they’re not even considered professional players
It’s literally called national basketball association. It’s a National title, not a world title. He has a point. World titles has to come competing against the world. That’s what we got the Olympics and world cup Games for
Does he...because the Olympics and World Cup are more for nationality pride. So players regardless of what league they're from, have to play with their respective national teams. Although the Nuggets won the NBA championship...Jokic and Murray wouldn't be able to play on the team, because they both have different nationalities. and this would also apply to other NBA teams. So it's just a measure of which nationality is better at a given sport, not whichever league's champion is better compared to other nation's league champions in basketball
@@dyquanbowers7316 And? in every sports league there are people from all over the world. In soccer there is even more diversity then in the NBA. Yet no national champion in ruby, soccer and so on calls themselves world champion. It is only a thing for americans...
Some people just can’t figure out the logic. Being the best players in the world doesn’t mean being world champion (it’s world’s best instead). English Premier League are probably the most competitive ⚽️ pro league in the world and the best players (all around the world) play there. So is Man City world champ? Even after winning UEFA Champions League, Man City still didn’t claim they’re world champion. They’re EPL champ and European champ instead. But Man City is arguably the best team in the world. Noah ain’t wrong but truth hurts.
Real Madrid currently is they won the last edition for world championship for clubs. Not that the club world cup is really prestigious but atleast it exists.
Soccer has nothin to do with basketball. Nba is the highest level of organized basketball period. Washed up players go to other parts of the world. Big time players want to come to the nba. Not even a discussion. If the nba wasn't the best they'd stay where they were
@@newnights Clearly u don’t get my point. Of course NBA players are the best basketball players in the world and it’s the best basketball pro league. But my point is NBA champ ≠ world champ.
What a dope. He is a US Track & Field athlete who got his medal on foreign soil so now he's feeling himself. And, I see many international athletes representing the US Track & Field. The NBA is an amalgamation of national and international athletes that gather predominately in the US to compete. The hat says: NBA Champs. I was on my way to research Lyles & purchase some memorabilia but his comment has left a distaste for his ENTIRE sport in my mouth. He must be so insecure that he denigrates others to feel big.
@@newnightsit just reeks of jealousy imo. Why was he so offered in the first place about NBA players. You just won your 200m why don’t you just enjoy that instead of disrespecting a whole group of individuals
I'm about to dead this whole conversation. Should team USA win the 2023 FIBA World Cup, Anthony Edwards would be a WORLD CHAMPION. Nikola Jokic ISNT, he's an NBA CHAMPION. DIFFERENCE.
Exactly. What's so hard inthat for them to understand. Also let them know that Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Derrick Rose, Rudy Gay & Kylie Irvin ( naming a few) are World Champions.
The problem is Non Americans think Americans are trying to say that the NBA Champs are World Champions, when we dont say that at all. We say that theyre the NBA Champs. We know the difference. Noah brought the NBA up for no damn reason, and many people dont want to bring that up
It’s so crazy how people aren’t understanding this. The leagues first acronym is literally “national” where the best players from around the world compete for a “national” title and not their country 😂.
Noah is a liar and many Non Americans are ignorant when it comes to the NBA. The hat the winners of the NBA Finals wear says "NBA Champions" not "World Champions." Look at the pics of the NBA Champs on Google so you can read what it says on their heads. Americans do not go around saying that the NBA Champs are World Champions. Most of us dont even think or care about basketball teams overseas.
The premier league is the best league in the World, other players come over the play in England and Man City won the league last season and were English Premier League Champions! They had to the play against Europe’s best to become Champions of Europe, still they aren’t world champions. Noah Lyles is spot on with this one! 👊🏾
And facts beats beliefs, it’s okay to think they are the best in the world because that is an opinion but to be considered a world champion you have to win a world championship
I don’t know because I don’t watch basketball like that and frankly I don’t care. Are the nuggets the best team in the world probably yes but that doesn’t make them world champion. But it’s not exclusive to basketball, Super Bowl champions are called world champions and the MLB call it the “World Series” are there any Mexican or Japanese teams competing….. No. it’s cities and states who fight it out so it’s a domestic title
@@limpfordrisky6290 they’re the best team in the world. You have your panty in a bunch because of technicality. They’re not world champions but they’re the best team in the world and no other club team can come close to beating them. Same difference
It’s funny that my Dad has been saying what Noah said my whole life. He always reminds who the true world champions are every four years after we watch the World Cup. The issue is that “world champions” is a political statement that every owner, coach, and professional athlete will defend 9 times out of 10. Noah is the only athlete I’ve seen so far that went against this brainwashing publicly. He should be proud that he’s not a sheep.
For some context, It would be like if Track crowned the world champion to whoever won US nationals because it's the toughest country to make a team in pretty much every event. General public don't know how hard US nationals/trials are and that athletes basically have to be at their peak to make it out the US Or that athletes will claim another country to get to the Olympics or worlds because of how hard it is to make it out of US trials. Now if the nba champs went on to play euro league champs or the toughest league champs in some type of tournament that could be an interesting plot twist for the NBA to add.
All facts! The best comment of the day. I’m a U.S. Champ and a World Champ and I can’t call myself a world champ from my USA titles. I had to wait until I got a World Championship medal 🥇
It’s just as hard for an American to make it in the NBA though. Imagine how much harder the US nationals would be if they flew in the greatest runners from around the world for you to compete with on top of all the US talent you have to overcome. All the greatest players in the world, including the euro league players end up in the NBA. The last 3 MVPs aren’t even American. The NBA is the toughest basketball league in the world. If you want to make the conversation about Olympics we all know team USA dominates that & if that’s not enough, there’s this thing called the FIBA World Cup held every 4 years where all the best players in the world play for their home countries & guess what? All the best players in the tournament no matter the country they represent are also in the NBA yet USA has the most titles & are on their way to winning another one this year. I could argue that if only players from the US were eligible to play in the NBA it would STILL be the toughest basketball league in the world. The way the NBA is set up is unique & should not be compared to Track but Noah Lyles decided to open that can of worms so now we’re here. Bottom line is when it comes to basketball, winning the NBA Finals is the hardest & most impressive feat a team can achieve in the sport of basketball.
@@IP.T yes. So imagine if after you won against all those Americans in the NBA finals, you had to put it together again and face all the other top leagues champs in some type of tournament. But I love the nba and agree with you lol. I just wanted to give folks perspective since no one knows about track compared to knowing about the NBA. Too bad noah is hiding his hands right now. Really a big moment to take advantage of
@@IP.T Even in if they did, whoever won that meet still wouldn't be the "world champion". that meet is the U.S. Nationals. So it still applies here. The NBA, even if it is by far the greatest domestic league in the world, is still just that, a domestic league.
@@anthonyanderson9303 semantics. The teams are domestic, the players are not. The greatest players in the world are in the NBA or working towards being in the NBA. Every other league is either a stepping stone or a retirement home.
Noah is absolutely right. Also, context matters. Listen the whole interview, not just the one statement. It was about raising awareness for the sport of T&F
Noah Lyles is 100% correct! Full stop! “It doesn't make sense for an NBA team to call themselves World Champions. I don't remember anybody playing outside our borders to get that tag”. Greg Popovich Greg Popovich said this 10 years ago. How come no one called him out and tried to belittle Popovich, as some NBA players are arrogantly doing to a true global superstar? Does it have anything to do with skin color? Just asking for a friend.
Sports is about anything can happen at any moment. So even though you are the best that doesnt mean you automatically win. You first have to "compete" first.
I'll try explain from this angle. the best football (soccer) league is considered to be the English Premier League. 66% of that league is foreign (non - British) and most football players strive to get to that league yet the winners of that league are not and cannot be deemed "World Champions". to further that point, they go on to compete against the best teams from other European leagues in the UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, even then they aren't "World Champions", although that would be more acceptable since its a battle amongst multiple teams from multiple leagues.
Technically, the players or teams competing for world championships have to represent their country. It doesn't matter whether the level of competition of the national league is higher than the international tournament.
The people in the US should be thankful for Noah. This man shows you, how you get respect back from the world. A bit of understatement and don’t make yourself bigger then you are. Big up for Noah.
This is easy. To be 'World Champion' you have to face teams/athletes from all over the world. To give an example: the champion of the Premier League (the best soccer LEAGUE in the World) is not called 'World Champion' and it is where the best players in the World usually play. Same case for the UEFA Champions League, which is the most important club COMPETITION in the world. The UCL Champion is the European Champion. If we talk about basketball, the only case for a team (National Team in this case) to be the 'World Champion' is that it wins the FIBA World Cup, when the current Champion is Spain, not the USA. Only most of the Americans will say that they are always the champions of everything. Noah is right. Brandon got the point here, of course.
Lyles is completely correct. Nobody is debating the quality of the players in the NBA but it's not a world competition. The title "World Champion" means usually an open competition where, at least in theory anyone can enter and win. The quality of players doesn't come into it, because in basketball especially there are many good or at least decent leagues all around the world. There is the basketball world cup or world champs, sorry I can't remember what it's called 😂, but that is where the real world champions are decided, because any country can enter.
The NBA being the best League in the world by a stretch and having most of the best players in the world undoubtedly, doesn't make the NBA Champions World Champions because the NBA is only played between teams from American cities bar one or two teams... The winners of the UEFA Champions League in European Club Soccer NEVER claim to be World Champions and nor do ANY of their players. That's the best analogy that one can give to the NBA Champions.
Semantics. The UEFA winner is typically viewed as the best soccer team in the world. Anyone who tells you otherwise is being disingenuous. Things are that are understood don’t need to be stated. Your position on this is like me saying that Man City isn’t the best club in the world because they haven’t beaten the MLS champ. You’re letting gratuitous trivialities cloud common sense. The UEFA Champion isn’t crowned the world champ but they’re clearly the best team in the world so why does a title matter? If anything the title of world champ not being attracted to the best team devalues it.
@@abdullenoir1792 How in all what I wrote there did you come out with me suggesting that Man City are not the best football team in the world? I said that the winner of the UEFA Champions League NEVER claims to be world champions, which is fact, and from what I read of what you wrote, you seem to be very well informed about this. So, I will say this , they are the best club football team in the world, but they are not world champions.
You can have the best basketball league in the world, but it's still not a world event because it's no other countries submitting teams to the NBA. So if this is not a world event, you can't crown a world champion. You're getting the two conflated
I dislike arguing with people who take things too literally. Technically, they aren't the world champion, but the best players in the world play in this league. When the Olympics come, the best athletes in the world compete but in the major sports the best players in the world don't always compete because they are saving themselves for something they believe is more important. Same for baseball.
Publicity. To get people talking just like you are doing now. A brilliant pr move. For the people who don't know who Noah lyles is there will google him and try to figure out why he made his statement.
Imagine being the best team in the world after having competed with teams only from one country in the world. You become champion by winning competitions, not just by claiming you're special. Either you prove it or it's just empty bragging.
It’s super simple… The NBA isn’t open to any team outside of North America. It’s a domestic league. A domestic league champion can’t be called a world champion lmaoooo
@@tashied422 every NBA banner in the rafters and championship rings refers to the winning team as world champions and clearly all the nba guys refer themselves as world champions or else this stupid topic would be a non issue and not blown up the way it has
The dude just gave up his argument. The lady isn’t speaking to facts. The fact that the NBA claims to be the best in the world doesn’t mean they’re“world champions “. “World championship is a competition against Nations/countries. So we should say EPL winners are world champions? Because they also claim to be the best league in the world? Cmon guys! It’s really that simple to understand 😅
We really need to start using our brains to think logically bro. Noah is completely right. The NBA is the best league in the world, but they are only NBA champions, nothing else. The Premier League is the best futbol league in the world and they get called Premier League champions. Come on.
Americans are so ignorant. The NBA is a national league from the USA. When international players come to the NBA they are not representing their countries, they're representing USA teams like the lakers
She forgot about Athens 2004, where the US (all NBA players) lost gold and silver. The NBA is the best league in the world, but the team that wins the tournament is not the world champions.
Nba is a global brand and it will most likely dominate other teams outside of it but you cant call yourself world champion if you dont face the rest of the world.
A world event is about nations against each other, not about talent but representation. A civil war cannot be considered a world war regardless if the country has the strongest military
Noah is ABSOLUTELY correct. Our American teams are the best funded MLB, NBA,NFL, etc. But our Olympic teams don't always win against international competition. Our baseball professionals lost against Japan, I believe. Noah is right.
The National Basketball Association (NBA) announced that 120 international players from 40 countries and six continents are on opening-night rosters for the 2022-23 season, including a record number of players from Canada (22) and Australia (10) and a record-tying five players from Nigeria. That's the 22-23 stats
Yea 120 international players out of what 220 countries in the world? Still the sample size doesn't add up to be called "World champions" if they had teams from 36 different countries competing then they can. The world cup is a world trophy because 36 teams come from 36 different countries
No other sport can have this debate because nobody has a sport the world tunes into to watch the best players in the world from around the world unless its international but the NBA.
It's funny how in the past 20-21 years (since 1998), USA has only won the FIBA Basketball World Cup twice (out of five editions). That is an actual WORLD championship. But hats off to Brandon Marshall for speaking some sense. Even if your American League has some of the best players from around the world, that still does not make it a WORLD championship. With that logic, do how many more sporting leagues in different countries around the world would be "world championships"? Look at baseball. The final of the MLB is called the "World Series" and the winners of the this "World Series" are called "World Champions." How??? Earlier this year, the World Baseball Classic was on, That is the world cup/world championship of baseball. The final was contested by USA and Japan. Guess who won, Japan. But an MLB fan will insist on calling the Houston Astros the "world champions of baseball." How does that make sense when the best baseball team in the world is Japan? All in all, Americans need to realize that USA is not THE WORLD. USA is a country and other countries exists and those other countries play sports too. Don't just watch your own country's sports because they will keep you believing that the winner of an American League is a "world" champion.
@@AD-eh3xnthe difference is the Olympics doesn’t pay but fiba does. Winning team brings home 2.5-3 mill In a global scale fiba is like the World Cup to other nations. Kinda like soccer the World Cup is bigger than the Olympics
Best basketball league in the world yes that’s true but its still a North American competition A world championship means you compete for your country against other countries in the world Same with continental competition like European championships the best European nations compete against other European nations
Argentina won the World Cup Does it make the country’s club league the best? no it doesn’t. When America wins in an international tournament we can call them WORLD CHAMPS, when they win nba games, they are national champs simple as that
This woman doesnt have an inch of idea what World Champion means. You select your Basketball players from your country against other countries. If they win in FIBA and/or in Olympics then you can. Call yourself world champions. “National Basketball League” doesnt say anything about World
Noah lyles is the American record holder in the 200m. 3x 200m world champion! 2023 triple champion! He’s not new, look him up. The nba is literally a NATIONal basketball association, Noah didn’t lie
He’s correct. Why is this even a debate. Other sports are also comprised of players from different countries ie Gymnastics. The US gymnastics team includes different nationalities just like the NBA. One has a world championship and the other does NOT!
Europe has the best soccer players in the world and the Champions League winners (Manchester City) are usually considered by 99% of the world as the best team in the world like in the NBA. But in soccer there's a tournament that called the FIFA club World Cup where City have to prove they are the best team in the world, even though everyone expects them to win and European teams win 99% of the time, but they are not World Champions just by winning the Champions League. Likewise with the MLB, the world champions were crowned in March (Japan) not in November. NFL is worse cause football is an American sport, only played in the US with Canada as an exception. It's like Australia, who have their own version of football nobody else plays with New Zealand as the exception, call themselves world Champions, it's ignorance incarnate.
@@stephengrant7601 it doesn’t matter where you play, it’s WHO you play. The last 3 MVPs aren’t even American. So if the Olympics is played in America, are the medalists the best in the world?
If u have to say "He has a point tho" u already know theres more context to his statement.... the best of the best from around the world plays in the NBA thats why they say world champ... people love to argue semantics without context jus to seem right
So why soccer players or premier league they don't call them self world champion ? Because they do have the best of the best players in UEFA champions-league
@@salomaobeto8369 no league operates the same.... Basketball has been dominated by the US forever so its not the same as soccer... all the best soccer players in the world don't gather together for a league in the US like the NBA... why is this so hard to understand... let's jus after to disagree, Noah didn't have to shade anyone's league he should've jus bigged up his own moment instead of put down the NBA title... no basketball team in the world is better than The Denver Nugets right now... tell me who better?
Sometime making everyone entitled to their opinion can come across unbelievable and sickening cause how can she sit there and not acknowledge that Noah Lyles is right.
that's why there is FIBA and OLYMPICS for you to represent your country, the NBA is NATIONAL CHAMPION because they (NBA PLAYERS) are paid by billionaires to represent the city within the USA, There is one in Canada.
Girl how many of the players from abroad have NBA RINGS??? Stop it! How can you be a world champion if you aren’t competing against other countries??? Stop it!
Every sane or logical person would say Noah has a valid point... Competing in a National League doesn't make one a world champion. Competing against the best in the world does make you one. Just because entire NBA is coming after him, doesn't make them right. NBA is the best basketball league in the world, no doubt. But then again, NBA Champion is not equal to World Champion. Period.
@@robertotampioc7318 that’s by Fiba. And Spain’s best player is Willy hermangomez. And he’s a bench player in the NBA. There’s levels to this. Who’s the best basketball team in the world right now? The Denver Nuggets
Yep, just like superbowl champions are not world champs or just like the world series winners are not world champs so im just glad someone finally said it, it needs to stop, you are an NBA champion not a world champion, Noah is a real world champion.
No one is saying the USA ain't the best at basketball no one is saying the NBA ain't the best basketball league in the world NL is saying a national league is not a world championship and he's right
People are mad that Noah is right 😂😂😂The women co host needs to listen more instead of interrupting. She’s got one of the best athletes like B Marshall explaining this topic and she don’t let him talk
Noah is technically right. It really is an arrogance unique to american leagues and players because in other sports were the elite are in other countries (say the UEFA Champions League for soccer) the winners don't go around calling themselves world champions. American exceptionalism is a disease fr, we need to be more humble.
And yet none of those foreign players trying to play overseas. Noah on that bullshit. Stick to track. And ps, us Americans on the regular winning 🥇 so we aint gotta stay humble for shit.
@@chrisburton713Every football player wants to play in Europe, yet the team that wins the European championship doesn't go around saying they're world champs. Like I said, american excepcionalism is a disease that fries americans' minds in a lot of ways. The propaganda we consume is nonstop and it makes us think the world revolves around us when it does not.
Her argument is invalid. Using the Olympics analogy NBA isn’t the only sport to dominate at the Olympics (smh). The US as a whole dominates bc of the diversity that makes up our teams but every sport doesn’t have world champions.
Agree with noah on this one NBA IS Domestic league for example if you say a English Premier league is also a Domestic league but you don't hear from any player from there saying we win the English premier league we are world champions I think is a American thing example messi is playing in inter miami and he is argentian so can a MLS LEAGUE winner be world champions and if you come to Europe most of the European league are full international players from all over the world but there no one calling them self a world champions
"On 7 October 2010, FC Barcelona, current champion of the Euroleague, became the first European team and the second FIBA in the History of Basketball to beat the reigning NBA champion, L.A. Lakers, for 92-88, in a match played at the Palau Sant Jordi in Barcelona. Pete Mickeal with 26 points and Juan Carlos Navarro with 25 were the best of the match. In the Lakers, Pau Gasol, former Barça player, was the best with 25 points scored."
Do people not like the new format of I Am Athlete? The viewership is way too low for these shows lately. NBA champs are NBA champs. There are a ton of other professional basketball leagues in the world. They should come up with a name for the finals like the NFL, who calls their event the Super Bowl, instead of American Football World champs.
Noah Lyles 100 % right NBA like English premier league they the best league in the world but not world champios, sthepen A said"oh NBA have player 40 different country, English premier league have almost 500 player from 115 different country, no one talk win primer league win world champions ,world cup world champions.
Let's be honest the NBA is the Olympics of basketball. So when they say world champions they're talking about playing against the best of the best in the world not different basketball leagues but best players in the world.
I think they always called themselves world champions, even when in the 50's, 60's, 70's when there were almost no foreigners. So their reason for calling themselves World Champions has nothing to do with that, of course. It's just arrogance and bad upbringing. The point is to be the best in the world, not to be the world champion.
Dont forget that the NBA is the biggest and most famous in the world if it comes to basketball, and that where the money is. These international players have to go to the NBA to follow the money. If every league around the world would generate the same income many of the international players would stay in their country, making their country a better league as well. If there isnt an international competition yoi cant call yourself world champions unless you play against international teams. Even if its the best league. In soccer theres the champions league, but they wont call themselves the world champions either. Thats why they also organise a World championship for clubs in soccer. Where the best from each part of the world come together and play against each other. Now the Champions League is still more prestigious but it wont be a world championship.
If that was so how come they can't compete without The NBA star from their country as far as talent cause money doesn't make talent that's what you fail to realize
@@AD-eh3xn They can compete without them, the thing is that it isnt as big in Europe and the wage difference is so massive they move over. If a competition in their own country would be as well payed and as high level why would they leave ? Popularity mean more people play it so more people to scout for talent. Better trainers is better players. Better trainers cost more money, better facilities cost more money. If better players stay in a competition the competition level rises and make the country better for players to play in. Basketball just isnt as populair in the rest of the world. But in the end it still doesnt take away the NBA is not a WBA its in the name... National.. so its still not a world championship. Even though its the biggest and best league in the world.
@@Butterfingers1989Who cares about winning a less prestigious title? No one cares about the club World Cup. Most of the time the European clubs competing don’t even start their best players. Most soccer fans can’t even tell you the past winners of that tournament. To me the world champ when talking about clubs or league teams is the winner of the most prestigious competition. The winner of the UEFA champions league is the world club champ (best team in the world). The winner of the NBA champ is the world champ (best team in the world). Any other title when we talk about club or league competition is secondary. Also you’re talking about what ifs. Yeah if basketball was more popular in other countries those leagues might close the gap. But they don’t so who cares. Those players that can close the gap don’t exist and aren’t going to exist. A completely moot point
@@abdullenoir1792 You are right its not the most prestigious price like i said. But at least it exists and you can call yourself a world champion. Unlike basketball where you just play in a national league.
This is not a big issue for most Americans and some are surprised it comes up. But they should know... This has been a pet peeve of the rest of the world for some time, and It's important because it negatively affects America's image around the world (self-centered, entitled, and presumptuous). Your league winner in certain sports is probably the best in the world, but until you beat other league winners, you don't have the right to be world champion.
Lyles is right... The NBA is the National Basket-ball Association... How a National association can make a world champion ? That's bullshit... They are National Champions... Period
I watched this entire interview just so I can ensure I give my whole opinion. She has no idea what she’s talking about, just make the example of soccer, this conversation is dead. No premier leauge would call themselves world champs… it’s a joke.
Girl no. It’s still a NATIONAL LEAGUE. Football leagues recruit people from around the world. This conversation is showcasing AMERICAN DELUSION. USA is not the only country in the world there is sport outside of AMERICA.
"There are so many players who can hoop-literally better than some NBA players-but they play in other leagues, and most of them plays on there national team in FIBA or the Olympics. Just because you're in the NBA doesn't mean you're better than everyone else in the world. Talent is without a doubt what makes you an NBA player, but connections also play a role. If players don’t have the right connections, they might not make it, no matter how skilled they are."
The NBA isn't the World Championships! for basketball, the World Championships are run by FIBA. The NBA is a PRIVATE League. Its the most lucrative basketball LEAGUE globally. So, we might as well call the English Premier League the football World Championships -_-
Seeing all the players break down over this and other people trying to prove him wrong makes this all the more hilarious. You guys are screaming insecurity all over the place. No one is questioning whether the NBA is the best league in the world. It's more about them self-certifying without challenging the best teams in other leagues. If you want to be a World Champion ..earn it by beating other leagues in competition!!!. NATIONAL Basketball Association, I repeat, NATIONAL... Cant be world champions playing a national league!! Noah's absolutely right! Period!!
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The WORLD has been saying this to America for decades but...American arrogance won't let them listen. Noah is right.
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He ain’t wrong tho. Premier League has the best soccer players in the world but they don’t call themselves world champions
But why though what's the purpose
He wrong on so many levels. NBA is international
@@highlyfe600 just because you have intentional players doesn’t make the competition championship a world championship. The winners of the FIBA World Cup & The Olympics are the world champions. The winner of the NBA Finals is the NBA champion.
@@MatthewJParkerwell said. To go even further the best teams in europe (EPL, La Liga etc) compete in a tournament called the UEFA Champions League. At the end the winner is called the European Champions.
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Noah said nothing incorrect, a world champion either wins the world championships or olympics games i.e. best in the world, the NBA is the best domestic league in basketball (by a mile) but its still a domestic league. Having foreign players in a league doesn't make it a worldwide competition... now should he have brought this up right after winning the gold medal, different topic altogether
Yes as it was a great publicity stunt
Is he supposed to wait to tell the truth? Its bullshit for those players to think they are on his same level if they have not actually gone out there and won an international competition. He isn't saying that the US Olympic Basketball team isn't world champions. if some of those players are in the league, then they can call themselves world champions. Otherwise, the others can keep quiet and hope they get on the Olympic team next year.
Show me a a team that can beat the nuggets in a 7 game series. Y’all full of 💩
Noah has to only beat the same 7 guys every race. The faces of track and field changes about every 12 years or so depending on their age and success
@@gldavis72 False. It’s not the same 7 guys every year. Every year there is a collegiate athlete or, in the case of Erriyon, a high schooler, that goes pro in track. Every year there are new faces; however, when you are at the elite level that Noah is in, very few make it up to snuff and are consistently great. People age out and and youth comes in. Noah is YOUNG. He isn’t even 25. This isn’t some grisly senior racer.
Your comment could easily be applied to basketball. In fact, it is even worst in that sport because since it involves a team, not everyone is carrying equal amounts of weight at all time. Noah has one bad day and his fortunes change entirely. It’s all on him at all times. No breaks.
Look at it this way. Would you call yourself the richest man in the world if you're only the richest America? No.
Every great player is in the nba, it’s literally just semantics if you want to call it a world champion or a nba champion
Americans would.
@@Logany5 It is a Team sport. The USA Basketball team has not won every International tournament it ever played in. They barely won Olympic gold. It is not a foregone conclusion that the NBA champ is best in the world, it is only that in some American minds
@@macdonaldkuchocha2834the only time they didn’t win it is when they went in to it not caring because they wanted to just get ready for the nba season. That was the whole point of when Kobe joined in 08. It was as to bring back the sense of pride in these tournaments because the nba American players looked down on it. The next best basketball league is in Europe and their best team would be at best a lower tier team in the nba. Remember only about 1% or less of international players are actually good enough to make the nba. Tens of thousands international players try to make the nba and only 120 are currently in the mix or are on an actual roster. If the nba actually add international teams they would beat them by double digits if the nba teams actually took it seriously. It doesn’t really matter to me if the nba stopped saying it because we all still know that they are the best in the world even if people would rather be politically correct. Now in the nfl I can say with out a doubt that they are the best in the world because the talent gap is so wide the international teams wouldn’t even be able to compete with our D1 collegiate teams and would probably drop down to D2 just for the sake of their players health. When you are literally a the beat in the world at what you do you can say what you want. The nfl and nba are not going to stop saying it because they know there’s no teams in the the rest of the world that could beat them and take that claim. You can either feel some way about it or just enjoy the entertainment because regardless at the end of the day they are still the best in the world in those respective sports 🤷🏾♂️.
@@Logany5What's your point?? The best soccer players playing in Europe don't call themselves world champions because it's more like an all star game than world tournament
I’m disappointed in a lot of these sports shows. Being a domestic league and being a international league are 2 different things. Acting like Noah Lyles is a nobody is hilarious 🤣
They are sick
He is a nobody.
💯 ! I don’t know how this is so hard for people to understand , NBA is the best league with the most money and there is no debate but you can’t be world champion if you are not playing the world
@slymcfly123 he's a 6 time WORLD CHAMPION. 3RD FASTETS ALL TIME. FASTEST AMERICAN OVER THE 200M. HE DEFINITELY IS SOMEBODY
Question is what does it matter what they call themselves? Does this bring positive light to track and field? No. He sounds like a hater
All this is just word play from the lady. It's just simply logical and Noah is definitely 100% correct.
Did Noah not watch the NBA Finals and the Finals MVP?
@@thefitgurutvbro, I’m a track athlete in college but I didn’t get into the sport until my jr year of hs. Ball always been my FL. I’m picking runs over a track workout any-day and I say that to say I have no reason to be biased. Noah isn’t wrong at all. Whenever track has its U.S championship meet the winners are labeled as US National Champion but when the NBA has a championship it’s ‘world champs’? They can argue it’s foreigners in the NBA, okay cool. What about at NCAA championships? HELLA foreigners in college but they still get struck with US national champs as well. Idk why everybody so hurt over the truth.
@@thefitgurutvNoah is right brah. Denver is not a country.
@@slavoskiwright4498the NCAA is different. Even tho their foreigners they’re clearly not the best players in the world, in fact they’re not even considered professional players
tennis players are more world champions than NBA teams
It’s literally called national basketball association. It’s a National title, not a world title. He has a point. World titles has to come competing against the world. That’s what we got the Olympics and world cup Games for
Said it just right.
@ShahYT.Official they do come from all over the world and compete in that competition
Does he...because the Olympics and World Cup are more for nationality pride. So players regardless of what league they're from, have to play with their respective national teams. Although the Nuggets won the NBA championship...Jokic and Murray wouldn't be able to play on the team, because they both have different nationalities. and this would also apply to other NBA teams. So it's just a measure of which nationality is better at a given sport, not whichever league's champion is better compared to other nation's league champions in basketball
@@dachosenone718 But there is no competition in US nation's league champions against other nations champions. So you cannot call urself world champion
@@dyquanbowers7316 And? in every sports league there are people from all over the world. In soccer there is even more diversity then in the NBA. Yet no national champion in ruby, soccer and so on calls themselves world champion. It is only a thing for americans...
You can only call yourself a world champion if you beat others from around the world. Not international players in a national league.
The worst team in the nba would dominate the “world league”
Why is it so hard for the US to get it when the rest of the world has already
Short answer: Arrogance
It's not about talent, it's about representation.
Some people just can’t figure out the logic. Being the best players in the world doesn’t mean being world champion (it’s world’s best instead). English Premier League are probably the most competitive ⚽️ pro league in the world and the best players (all around the world) play there. So is Man City world champ? Even after winning UEFA Champions League, Man City still didn’t claim they’re world champion. They’re EPL champ and European champ instead. But Man City is arguably the best team in the world. Noah ain’t wrong but truth hurts.
Real Madrid currently is they won the last edition for world championship for clubs. Not that the club world cup is really prestigious but atleast it exists.
Soccer has nothin to do with basketball. Nba is the highest level of organized basketball period. Washed up players go to other parts of the world. Big time players want to come to the nba. Not even a discussion. If the nba wasn't the best they'd stay where they were
@@newnights Clearly u don’t get my point. Of course NBA players are the best basketball players in the world and it’s the best basketball pro league. But my point is NBA champ ≠ world champ.
What a dope. He is a US Track & Field athlete who got his medal on foreign soil so now he's feeling himself. And, I see many international athletes representing the US Track & Field.
The NBA is an amalgamation of national and international athletes that gather predominately in the US to compete. The hat says: NBA Champs.
I was on my way to research Lyles & purchase some memorabilia but his comment has left a distaste for his ENTIRE sport in my mouth.
He must be so insecure that he denigrates others to feel big.
@@Butterfingers1989wrong, man City won the recent champions league. Get your facts right.
Noah said what we all have been thinking about for years out loud 😂.
Noah has strong opinions. I love it. The NBA is so pampered and so protected from criticism. Big babies
Strong doesn't mean valid. His opinion is stupid & that's being generous
They are babies lol
@@newnightsif you think he's wrong, then you're very stupid
@@newnightsit just reeks of jealousy imo. Why was he so offered in the first place about NBA players. You just won your 200m why don’t you just enjoy that instead of disrespecting a whole group of individuals
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Exactly. NFL and nba are national Champions not world
Thier name literally starts with NATIONAL. not INTERNATIONAL
I'm about to dead this whole conversation. Should team USA win the 2023 FIBA World Cup, Anthony Edwards would be a WORLD CHAMPION. Nikola Jokic ISNT, he's an NBA CHAMPION. DIFFERENCE.
This bro. This is it. Thank you so freaking much. Ugh why is this hard to understand ugh.
Exactly. What's so hard inthat for them to understand.
Also let them know that Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Derrick Rose, Rudy Gay & Kylie Irvin ( naming a few) are World Champions.
The problem is Non Americans think Americans are trying to say that the NBA Champs are World Champions, when we dont say that at all. We say that theyre the NBA Champs. We know the difference. Noah brought the NBA up for no damn reason, and many people dont want to bring that up
Its literally this simple lmao
It’s so crazy how people aren’t understanding this. The leagues first acronym is literally “national” where the best players from around the world compete for a “national” title and not their country 😂.
This lady calling Noah lyles a hater is insane. Put some respect on his name
Seems like hating to me. Nobody knew Noah Lyles until today
He's a clown.
Noah is a liar and many Non Americans are ignorant when it comes to the NBA. The hat the winners of the NBA Finals wear says "NBA Champions" not "World Champions." Look at the pics of the NBA Champs on Google so you can read what it says on their heads. Americans do not go around saying that the NBA Champs are World Champions. Most of us dont even think or care about basketball teams overseas.
@@LEEZY913 Exactly. Instead of answering the question, his hating ass chose to throw shade at the NBA when they dont call themselves World Champions
@@LEEZY913 I mean if you're a sports casual you don't know who he is.
Finally a smart atlete saying the facts as they are. Bravo Noah.
The premier league is the best league in the World, other players come over the play in England and Man City won the league last season and were English Premier League Champions! They had to the play against Europe’s best to become Champions of Europe, still they aren’t world champions. Noah Lyles is spot on with this one! 👊🏾
I believe who ever wins euro league are world champs. If you want to go by definition then no they’re not I guess
And facts beats beliefs, it’s okay to think they are the best in the world because that is an opinion but to be considered a world champion you have to win a world championship
@@limpfordrisky6290 do you think the French champ can beat the Denver nuggets?
I don’t know because I don’t watch basketball like that and frankly I don’t care. Are the nuggets the best team in the world probably yes but that doesn’t make them world champion. But it’s not exclusive to basketball, Super Bowl champions are called world champions and the MLB call it the “World Series” are there any Mexican or Japanese teams competing….. No. it’s cities and states who fight it out so it’s a domestic title
@@limpfordrisky6290 they’re the best team in the world. You have your panty in a bunch because of technicality. They’re not world champions but they’re the best team in the world and no other club team can come close to beating them. Same difference
Noah is 1 million percent right. The truth always hurt
It’s funny that my Dad has been saying what Noah said my whole life. He always reminds who the true world champions are every four years after we watch the World Cup.
The issue is that “world champions” is a political statement that every owner, coach, and professional athlete will defend 9 times out of 10. Noah is the only athlete I’ve seen so far that went against this brainwashing publicly. He should be proud that he’s not a sheep.
For some context, It would be like if Track crowned the world champion to whoever won US nationals because it's the toughest country to make a team in pretty much every event.
General public don't know how hard US nationals/trials are and that athletes basically have to be at their peak to make it out the US
Or that athletes will claim another country to get to the Olympics or worlds because of how hard it is to make it out of US trials.
Now if the nba champs went on to play euro league champs or the toughest league champs in some type of tournament that could be an interesting plot twist for the NBA to add.
All facts! The best comment of the day. I’m a U.S. Champ and a World Champ and I can’t call myself a world champ from my USA titles. I had to wait until I got a World Championship medal 🥇
It’s just as hard for an American to make it in the NBA though. Imagine how much harder the US nationals would be if they flew in the greatest runners from around the world for you to compete with on top of all the US talent you have to overcome.
All the greatest players in the world, including the euro league players end up in the NBA. The last 3 MVPs aren’t even American. The NBA is the toughest basketball league in the world. If you want to make the conversation about Olympics we all know team USA dominates that & if that’s not enough, there’s this thing called the FIBA World Cup held every 4 years where all the best players in the world play for their home countries & guess what? All the best players in the tournament no matter the country they represent are also in the NBA yet USA has the most titles & are on their way to winning another one this year. I could argue that if only players from the US were eligible to play in the NBA it would STILL be the toughest basketball league in the world.
The way the NBA is set up is unique & should not be compared to Track but Noah Lyles decided to open that can of worms so now we’re here. Bottom line is when it comes to basketball, winning the NBA Finals is the hardest & most impressive feat a team can achieve in the sport of basketball.
@@IP.T yes. So imagine if after you won against all those Americans in the NBA finals, you had to put it together again and face all the other top leagues champs in some type of tournament. But I love the nba and agree with you lol. I just wanted to give folks perspective since no one knows about track compared to knowing about the NBA. Too bad noah is hiding his hands right now. Really a big moment to take advantage of
@@IP.T Even in if they did, whoever won that meet still wouldn't be the "world champion". that meet is the U.S. Nationals. So it still applies here. The NBA, even if it is by far the greatest domestic league in the world, is still just that, a domestic league.
@@anthonyanderson9303 semantics. The teams are domestic, the players are not. The greatest players in the world are in the NBA or working towards being in the NBA. Every other league is either a stepping stone or a retirement home.
Noah is absolutely right. Also, context matters. Listen the whole interview, not just the one statement. It was about raising awareness for the sport of T&F
Awareness?
@@PresidentCarter86yes, the question asked was whether track athletes aren’t respected and represented well.
Noah Lyles is 100% correct! Full stop!
“It doesn't make sense for an NBA team to call themselves World Champions. I don't remember anybody playing outside our borders to get that tag”. Greg Popovich
Greg Popovich said this 10 years ago. How come no one called him out and tried to belittle Popovich, as some NBA players are arrogantly doing to a true global superstar?
Does it have anything to do with skin color? Just asking for a friend.
Long overdue and much appreciated statement from Noah. 💯👍
Sports is about anything can happen at any moment. So even though you are the best that doesnt mean you automatically win. You first have to "compete" first.
It is true tho. That's the problem with America, they hate hearing the truth.
She doesn’t get it. Imagine the premiere league calling their self world champions after winning a title in a domestic league
I'll try explain from this angle. the best football (soccer) league is considered to be the English Premier League. 66% of that league is foreign (non - British) and most football players strive to get to that league yet the winners of that league are not and cannot be deemed "World Champions". to further that point, they go on to compete against the best teams from other European leagues in the UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, even then they aren't "World Champions", although that would be more acceptable since its a battle amongst multiple teams from multiple leagues.
Technically, the players or teams competing for world championships have to represent their country. It doesn't matter whether the level of competition of the national league is higher than the international tournament.
Yes but unfortunately they play in the nba so they can’t play
For their country
Imagine booking a ''world' vacation/tour and only visiting 30 cities in the US.🤣🤣🤣🤣
The people in the US should be thankful for Noah. This man shows you, how you get respect back from the world. A bit of understatement and don’t make yourself bigger then you are. Big up for Noah.
He’s not wrong though. Lol
Call It the NBA Intercontinental Championship
This is easy. To be 'World Champion' you have to face teams/athletes from all over the world.
To give an example: the champion of the Premier League (the best soccer LEAGUE in the World) is not called 'World Champion' and it is where the best players in the World usually play. Same case for the UEFA Champions League, which is the most important club COMPETITION in the world. The UCL Champion is the European Champion.
If we talk about basketball, the only case for a team (National Team in this case) to be the 'World Champion' is that it wins the FIBA World Cup, when the current Champion is Spain, not the USA.
Only most of the Americans will say that they are always the champions of everything. Noah is right. Brandon got the point here, of course.
U can’t be world champ with a U.S. city on ya chest lol
NBA should be call team sport champion or state champion only
He is not wrong !!! Thank you Noah for bringing this up
Lyles is completely correct.
Nobody is debating the quality of the players in the NBA but it's not a world competition.
The title "World Champion" means usually an open competition where, at least in theory anyone can enter and win.
The quality of players doesn't come into it, because in basketball especially there are many good or at least decent leagues all around the world.
There is the basketball world cup or world champs, sorry I can't remember what it's called 😂, but that is where the real world champions are decided, because any country can enter.
The NBA being the best League in the world by a stretch and having most of the best players in the world undoubtedly, doesn't make the NBA Champions World Champions because the NBA is only played between teams from American cities bar one or two teams...
The winners of the UEFA Champions League in European Club Soccer NEVER claim to be World Champions and nor do ANY of their players. That's the best analogy that one can give to the NBA Champions.
Simple
Semantics. The UEFA winner is typically viewed as the best soccer team in the world. Anyone who tells you otherwise is being disingenuous. Things are that are understood don’t need to be stated.
Your position on this is like me saying that Man City isn’t the best club in the world because they haven’t beaten the MLS champ. You’re letting gratuitous trivialities cloud common sense.
The UEFA Champion isn’t crowned the world champ but they’re clearly the best team in the world so why does a title matter? If anything the title of world champ not being attracted to the best team devalues it.
@@abdullenoir1792 How in all what I wrote there did you come out with me suggesting that Man City are not the best football team in the world? I said that the winner of the UEFA Champions League NEVER claims to be world champions, which is fact, and from what I read of what you wrote, you seem to be very well informed about this.
So, I will say this , they are the best club football team in the world, but they are not world champions.
You can have the best basketball league in the world, but it's still not a world event because it's no other countries submitting teams to the NBA. So if this is not a world event, you can't crown a world champion. You're getting the two conflated
I dislike arguing with people who take things too literally. Technically, they aren't the world champion, but the best players in the world play in this league.
When the Olympics come, the best athletes in the world compete but in the major sports the best players in the world don't always compete because they are saving themselves for something they believe is more important.
Same for baseball.
Finally someone with sense 🫡
So stop saying world Champs then
Publicity. To get people talking just like you are doing now. A brilliant pr move. For the people who don't know who Noah lyles is there will google him and try to figure out why he made his statement.
I guess being precise is not a thing in a country that still uses the imperial system lmao
Imagine being the best team in the world after having competed with teams only from one country in the world. You become champion by winning competitions, not just by claiming you're special. Either you prove it or it's just empty bragging.
International players came to the NBA to represent different states in America and not their country.
It’s super simple… The NBA isn’t open to any team outside of North America. It’s a domestic league. A domestic league champion can’t be called a world champion lmaoooo
They don't call themselves World Champions though. They call themselves NBA Champions. You wanna know why? There's a difference and they know it
@@tashied422 every NBA banner in the rafters and championship rings refers to the winning team as world champions and clearly all the nba guys refer themselves as world champions or else this stupid topic would be a non issue and not blown up the way it has
The dude just gave up his argument. The lady isn’t speaking to facts. The fact that the NBA claims to be the best in the world doesn’t mean they’re“world champions “. “World championship is a competition against Nations/countries. So we should say EPL winners are world champions? Because they also claim to be the best league in the world? Cmon guys! It’s really that simple to understand 😅
We really need to start using our brains to think logically bro. Noah is completely right. The NBA is the best league in the world, but they are only NBA champions, nothing else. The Premier League is the best futbol league in the world and they get called Premier League champions. Come on.
Fr it’s that simple
Americans are so ignorant. The NBA is a national league from the USA. When international players come to the NBA they are not representing their countries, they're representing USA teams like the lakers
She forgot about Athens 2004, where the US (all NBA players) lost gold and silver. The NBA is the best league in the world, but the team that wins the tournament is not the world champions.
Nba is a global brand and it will most likely dominate other teams outside of it but you cant call yourself world champion if you dont face the rest of the world.
A world event is about nations against each other, not about talent but representation. A civil war cannot be considered a world war regardless if the country has the strongest military
Noah is ABSOLUTELY correct. Our American teams are the best funded MLB, NBA,NFL, etc. But our Olympic teams don't always win against international competition. Our baseball professionals lost against Japan, I believe. Noah is right.
Just unbelievable 😂 I am amazed. Jokic won the chip for Denver, not Serbia lol. Despite how people want to feel, there is a difference.
The National Basketball Association (NBA) announced that 120 international players from 40 countries and six continents are on opening-night rosters for the 2022-23 season, including a record number of players from Canada (22) and Australia (10) and a record-tying five players from Nigeria. That's the 22-23 stats
Yea 120 international players out of what 220 countries in the world? Still the sample size doesn't add up to be called "World champions" if they had teams from 36 different countries competing then they can. The world cup is a world trophy because 36 teams come from 36 different countries
No other sport can have this debate because nobody has a sport the world tunes into to watch the best players in the world from around the world unless its international but the NBA.
@@Dontapposoccer ?
Its still a team sport, and you dont compete agains international teams.
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New here. Is the guy some known athlete? Hes one of the few americans looking smart on this topic.
It's funny how in the past 20-21 years (since 1998), USA has only won the FIBA Basketball World Cup twice (out of five editions). That is an actual WORLD championship. But hats off to Brandon Marshall for speaking some sense. Even if your American League has some of the best players from around the world, that still does not make it a WORLD championship. With that logic, do how many more sporting leagues in different countries around the world would be "world championships"?
Look at baseball. The final of the MLB is called the "World Series" and the winners of the this "World Series" are called "World Champions." How??? Earlier this year, the World Baseball Classic was on, That is the world cup/world championship of baseball. The final was contested by USA and Japan. Guess who won, Japan. But an MLB fan will insist on calling the Houston Astros the "world champions of baseball." How does that make sense when the best baseball team in the world is Japan?
All in all, Americans need to realize that USA is not THE WORLD. USA is a country and other countries exists and those other countries play sports too. Don't just watch your own country's sports because they will keep you believing that the winner of an American League is a "world" champion.
How many Olympics? Talm bout FIBA lmao that shit child's play ain't our best don't even play on FIBA 🤣🤣🤣
@@AD-eh3xnthe difference is the Olympics doesn’t pay but fiba does. Winning team brings home 2.5-3 mill
In a global scale fiba is like the World Cup to other nations. Kinda like soccer the World Cup is bigger than the Olympics
So what becomes a player that wins the NBA and the Fiba WC...double World Champion?
Best basketball league in the world yes that’s true but its still a North American competition
A world championship means you compete for your country against other countries in the world
Same with continental competition like European championships the best European nations compete against other European nations
I dare you to name one other sport anywhere outside the USA where the champions are named “world champions”
I’ll wait.
Argentina won the World Cup
Does it make the country’s club league the best? no it doesn’t. When America wins in an international tournament we can call them WORLD CHAMPS, when they win nba games, they are national champs simple as that
This woman doesnt have an inch of idea what World Champion means. You select your Basketball players from your country against other countries. If they win in FIBA and/or in Olympics then you can. Call yourself world champions. “National Basketball League” doesnt say anything about World
Noah lyles is the American record holder in the 200m. 3x 200m world champion! 2023 triple champion! He’s not new, look him up. The nba is literally a NATIONal basketball association, Noah didn’t lie
They don’t have world championships on their hats at all it has nba championship
@@MykelStevens they have, and it’s on their rings as well
@@likylake9503 in 95’ back words they changed it
We know what nba stands for 🤦🏿♂️
@@likylake9503 if we all know, why say they call themselves world champions then?
He’s correct. Why is this even a debate. Other sports are also comprised of players from different countries ie Gymnastics. The US gymnastics team includes different nationalities just like the NBA. One has a world championship and the other does NOT!
The NBA has the best basketball players in the WORLD, they just play in America. It’s that simple.
NBA stands for national basketball association 🥴 America isn’t this world.
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So playing in USA makes the league a World series?
Europe has the best soccer players in the world and the Champions League winners (Manchester City) are usually considered by 99% of the world as the best team in the world like in the NBA. But in soccer there's a tournament that called the FIFA club World Cup where City have to prove they are the best team in the world, even though everyone expects them to win and European teams win 99% of the time, but they are not World Champions just by winning the Champions League. Likewise with the MLB, the world champions were crowned in March (Japan) not in November. NFL is worse cause football is an American sport, only played in the US with Canada as an exception. It's like Australia, who have their own version of football nobody else plays with New Zealand as the exception, call themselves world Champions, it's ignorance incarnate.
@@stephengrant7601 it doesn’t matter where you play, it’s WHO you play. The last 3 MVPs aren’t even American. So if the Olympics is played in America, are the medalists the best in the world?
Noah is correct. This isn't even noteworthy.
If u have to say "He has a point tho" u already know theres more context to his statement.... the best of the best from around the world plays in the NBA thats why they say world champ... people love to argue semantics without context jus to seem right
So why soccer players or premier league they don't call them self world champion ? Because they do have the best of the best players in UEFA champions-league
@@salomaobeto8369 no league operates the same.... Basketball has been dominated by the US forever so its not the same as soccer... all the best soccer players in the world don't gather together for a league in the US like the NBA... why is this so hard to understand... let's jus after to disagree, Noah didn't have to shade anyone's league he should've jus bigged up his own moment instead of put down the NBA title... no basketball team in the world is better than The Denver Nugets right now... tell me who better?
Some people can't distinguish between national and world. I am sure it's NBA and not world BA
@@HOTFIREENT22no soccer team will smoke Manchester City right now. But they are still not world champions
Sometime making everyone entitled to their opinion can come across unbelievable and sickening cause how can she sit there and not acknowledge that Noah Lyles is right.
that's why there is FIBA and OLYMPICS for you to represent your country, the NBA is NATIONAL CHAMPION because they (NBA PLAYERS) are paid by billionaires to represent the city within the USA, There is one in Canada.
Girl how many of the players from abroad have NBA RINGS??? Stop it! How can you be a world champion if you aren’t competing against other countries??? Stop it!
People done forgot the raptors are in the league i guess
Every sane or logical person would say Noah has a valid point... Competing in a National League doesn't make one a world champion. Competing against the best in the world does make you one. Just because entire NBA is coming after him, doesn't make them right. NBA is the best basketball league in the world, no doubt. But then again, NBA Champion is not equal to World Champion. Period.
Name the best 30 basketball teams in the world right now 😂
Spain is no.1 rank by FIBA, USA is only no.2 by FIBA
@@robertotampioc7318 that’s by Fiba. And Spain’s best player is Willy hermangomez. And he’s a bench player in the NBA. There’s levels to this. Who’s the best basketball team in the world right now? The Denver Nuggets
@@endless_waltz18 There is no way to prove the best player cuz there is no tournament that consists of every countries teams.
Yep, just like superbowl champions are not world champs or just like the world series winners are not world champs so im just glad someone finally said it, it needs to stop, you are an NBA champion not a world champion, Noah is a real world champion.
You guys got just beat by the Germans in basketball shame on you you not the WorldChampion
No one is saying the USA ain't the best at basketball no one is saying the NBA ain't the best basketball league in the world NL is saying a national league is not a world championship and he's right
World champions means the whole world is participating like track and field! The NBA is not a world league! It’s US based with one Canadian team! 😂
People are mad that Noah is right 😂😂😂The women co host needs to listen more instead of interrupting. She’s got one of the best athletes like B Marshall explaining this topic and she don’t let him talk
How would he sound like a hater? He’s an actual world champion 💀💀 a 6 time WC at that
Noah is technically right. It really is an arrogance unique to american leagues and players because in other sports were the elite are in other countries (say the UEFA Champions League for soccer) the winners don't go around calling themselves world champions. American exceptionalism is a disease fr, we need to be more humble.
And yet none of those foreign players trying to play overseas. Noah on that bullshit. Stick to track. And ps, us Americans on the regular winning 🥇 so we aint gotta stay humble for shit.
@@chrisburton713 depends on the sport. Soccer the US gets humiliated regularly. And that’s the most popular sport in the World
@@chrisburton713Every football player wants to play in Europe, yet the team that wins the European championship doesn't go around saying they're world champs. Like I said, american excepcionalism is a disease that fries americans' minds in a lot of ways. The propaganda we consume is nonstop and it makes us think the world revolves around us when it does not.
@@chrisburton713soccer , cricket , women’s soccer , rugby , hockey the USA gets humiliated it’s not a World Series
@@jjgreen5206bro they even get humiliated playing baseball.
Her argument is invalid. Using the Olympics analogy NBA isn’t the only sport to dominate at the Olympics (smh). The US as a whole dominates bc of the diversity that makes up our teams but every sport doesn’t have world champions.
Agree with noah on this one NBA IS Domestic league for example if you say a English Premier league is also a Domestic league but you don't hear from any player from there saying we win the English premier league we are world champions I think is a American thing example messi is playing in inter miami and he is argentian so can a MLS LEAGUE winner be world champions and if you come to Europe most of the European league are full international players from all over the world but there no one calling them self a world champions
Why is this a debate? People are really that lost in themselves. Noah 💯
She speaking facts and brandon just made her point without even trying lol
Team USA just lost to Germany in the FIBA World Cup It's Up! Not The Best!
If he got a professional team that wants to go up against the NBA champions after their title win, BRING THEM ON! Other than that, he needs to 🤫💯
"On 7 October 2010, FC Barcelona, current champion of the Euroleague, became the first European team and the second FIBA in the History of Basketball to beat the reigning NBA champion, L.A. Lakers, for 92-88, in a match played at the Palau Sant Jordi in Barcelona. Pete Mickeal with 26 points and Juan Carlos Navarro with 25 were the best of the match. In the Lakers, Pau Gasol, former Barça player, was the best with 25 points scored."
@@Yon_Jon5715 Those were NBA second/Third string players.
This woman likes to hear her rubbish. Now all the best sporting leagues in the world can be called world champions 😂😂
Do people not like the new format of I Am Athlete? The viewership is way too low for these shows lately. NBA champs are NBA champs. There are a ton of other professional basketball leagues in the world. They should come up with a name for the finals like the NFL, who calls their event the Super Bowl, instead of American Football World champs.
Nope. Nfl Champs are world Champs. It used to be called the world championship before it was called the super bowl
@@newnights lol. You can’t be world champs when you only play teams in your country lol
You’re not going against other countries to win an NBA title either!
I don't understand why Noah Lyles had to Disrespect NBA player's, case closed
Noah Lyles 100 % right NBA like English premier league they the best league in the world but not world champios, sthepen A said"oh NBA have player 40 different country, English premier league have almost 500 player from 115 different country, no one talk win primer league win world champions ,world cup world champions.
Let's be honest the NBA is the Olympics of basketball. So when they say world champions they're talking about playing against the best of the best in the world not different basketball leagues but best players in the world.
I think they always called themselves world champions, even when in the 50's, 60's, 70's when there were almost no foreigners. So their reason for calling themselves World Champions has nothing to do with that, of course. It's just arrogance and bad upbringing. The point is to be the best in the world, not to be the world champion.
Dont forget that the NBA is the biggest and most famous in the world if it comes to basketball, and that where the money is. These international players have to go to the NBA to follow the money. If every league around the world would generate the same income many of the international players would stay in their country, making their country a better league as well. If there isnt an international competition yoi cant call yourself world champions unless you play against international teams. Even if its the best league. In soccer theres the champions league, but they wont call themselves the world champions either. Thats why they also organise a World championship for clubs in soccer. Where the best from each part of the world come together and play against each other. Now the Champions League is still more prestigious but it wont be a world championship.
If that was so how come they can't compete without The NBA star from their country as far as talent cause money doesn't make talent that's what you fail to realize
@@AD-eh3xn They can compete without them, the thing is that it isnt as big in Europe and the wage difference is so massive they move over. If a competition in their own country would be as well payed and as high level why would they leave ? Popularity mean more people play it so more people to scout for talent. Better trainers is better players. Better trainers cost more money, better facilities cost more money. If better players stay in a competition the competition level rises and make the country better for players to play in. Basketball just isnt as populair in the rest of the world. But in the end it still doesnt take away the NBA is not a WBA its in the name... National.. so its still not a world championship. Even though its the biggest and best league in the world.
@@Butterfingers1989Who cares about winning a less prestigious title? No one cares about the club World Cup. Most of the time the European clubs competing don’t even start their best players. Most soccer fans can’t even tell you the past winners of that tournament.
To me the world champ when talking about clubs or league teams is the winner of the most prestigious competition. The winner of the UEFA champions league is the world club champ (best team in the world). The winner of the NBA champ is the world champ (best team in the world). Any other title when we talk about club or league competition is secondary.
Also you’re talking about what ifs. Yeah if basketball was more popular in other countries those leagues might close the gap. But they don’t so who cares. Those players that can close the gap don’t exist and aren’t going to exist. A completely moot point
@@abdullenoir1792 You are right its not the most prestigious price like i said. But at least it exists and you can call yourself a world champion. Unlike basketball where you just play in a national league.
She making good points though even if what Noah said is a complete fact....Him being an American downing an American league is crazy
Ma'am, you're wrong again. We didn't win the Olympics every single time. I don't think that you even watch the Olympics. I'm sorry
even if some international basketball players play in the NBA it is still a domestic league...not a world league...
This is not a big issue for most Americans and some are surprised it comes up. But they should know...
This has been a pet peeve of the rest of the world for some time, and It's important because it negatively affects America's image around the world (self-centered, entitled, and presumptuous). Your league winner in certain sports is probably the best in the world, but until you beat other league winners, you don't have the right to be world champion.
Lyles is right... The NBA is the National Basket-ball Association... How a National association can make a world champion ? That's bullshit... They are National Champions... Period
I watched this entire interview just so I can ensure I give my whole opinion. She has no idea what she’s talking about, just make the example of soccer, this conversation is dead. No premier leauge would call themselves world champs… it’s a joke.
The champions league got more followers and players around the world more money but never a world champion
Girl no. It’s still a NATIONAL LEAGUE. Football leagues recruit people from around the world. This conversation is showcasing AMERICAN DELUSION. USA is not the only country in the world there is sport outside of AMERICA.
"There are so many players who can hoop-literally better than some NBA players-but they play in other leagues, and most of them plays on there national team in FIBA or the Olympics. Just because you're in the NBA doesn't mean you're better than everyone else in the world. Talent is without a doubt what makes you an NBA player, but connections also play a role. If players don’t have the right connections, they might not make it, no matter how skilled they are."
The NBA isn't the World Championships! for basketball, the World Championships are run by FIBA. The NBA is a PRIVATE League. Its the most lucrative basketball LEAGUE globally.
So, we might as well call the English Premier League the football World Championships -_-
Seeing all the players break down over this and other people trying to prove him wrong makes this all the more hilarious. You guys are screaming insecurity all over the place. No one is questioning whether the NBA is the best league in the world. It's more about them self-certifying without challenging the best teams in other leagues. If you want to be a World Champion ..earn it by beating other leagues in competition!!!. NATIONAL Basketball Association, I repeat, NATIONAL... Cant be world champions playing a national league!! Noah's absolutely right! Period!!
Whenever the USA says they are the best at anything in the World (which is constantly) you know immediately this is a tip off they are not.