Other than the timing of his statement I don't see the problem with his statement. He is 100% correct and the fact that people especially NBA players are so butthurt just shows how delusional they are.
@@axelagosto5196 there isn't any sport including baseball. If you when the championship in America the national Anthem is played. It has to be on the world stage.
I laughed my ass off! I like the NBA - watched it for many years -, but switched recently to the Euroleague Basketball, bc sportswise it's way more attractive. And, yes, Noah Lyles was right on every point 🤟
Even though I'm American, I love it when NBA players get humbled on the world stage. We really gotta stop spoiling our athletes in America because they get catered to all the time and get everything they want, especially in the NBA. Our basketball culture here is soft as hell and it shows with the outrageous egos in many of the NBA stars today when they started taking shots at Noah Lyles. The US is getting exposed a ton on the world stage in basketball and it's because NBA players put themselves first and can never put their ego and entitled behavior aside.
You got that right...I Agree...they are soft&the things they do...smh 🤦🏽♀️ some of it Ridiculous..look at what's his name, the 1 pulling out guns&💩 just being stupid
Just imagine if a soccer nation like Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. Would have their national league win a national championship but call themselves world champion. How would other countries react? Not ok, right? The title world champion can only be given to the winner of an international competition.
Then make lazy Africans get u and play baseball or Basketball or Football or Hockey your not doing that the entire continent seems like they accepted slavery years ago
Actually it proves that it takes less than our best for other countries to have a chance to win.....when the dream team, or the best of the NBA played in the Olympics, name the country that could even come close to our level.
what international team would beaten michael jordan's bulls teams? not even an all-star team....magic and kareem's lakers, larry bird's celtics, kobe's lakers, curry's warriors??? those were actual teams. basketball and baseball are historically american sports, why would they not be called the world champion?
Look it's simple, for years the NBA was the league most respected and admired THROUGHOUT the world. Im 65yrs old and I have watch the transitions from before magic and bird. As the league push further into world markets the world got better and our ability to see the world stage has also gotten smaller with social platforms. Bottom line the game has changed and so have the world markets
Those selected NBA players are not the NBA champion team though. They'll be world champions if they win the FIBA world cup, yes but they are not the NBA champion. What is being pointed out is the NBA champions shouldn't be called World champions.
Noah was asked, "what you would like to see happen in the sport, what can improve, and what can you do to help Foster that change." That was the three-part question that Noah was asked before he went ballistic on the NBA. I'm steal scratching my head.
What is the definition of "world" in the US? I was studying in the US and watching "World News". There were no other news presented as from the US. Not even Europe was considered for some World News. Besides a competition for national teams (FIBA World Cup) there should be established a champions league from around world for the best club teams. Only then the champion of the NBA could also become a champion of the best club teams in the world and call itself "World Champion".
Bad example and ignorant as everything sayd in context with basketball. Henry Ford didn´t invent the car. This was invented in Germany by Carl Benz and Mercedes-Benz still exists and is the oldest car company in the world.@@alandaddydaycare200
I'm African and I can say very few to nothing will stay up all night to watch the NBA. But we are all in to watch the European soccer leagues just because we want to see our African brothers play and there's a lotta them there.
Yep and those racist Spaniards are European let them know with the racist name calling and the yellow fruit thrown at them all facts here dun research if you don't believe
Just don't say soccer, its called football, that's another stupid thing the Americans have said. It makes more sense too call American football American handball. Football is played with the foot . Now which game uses the foot more. One country in the world calls English football soccer, usa . 😊
I use to love watching NBA, BUT I STOPPED WATCHING ABOUT 6 YRS AGO...JUST WASN'T THE SAME, WAS EXCITING TO ME TO WATCH, &THATS MY OPINION. ITS ALL ABOUT THE $$ FOR MOST&NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE TEAM...YOU GOT PLAYERS TRYING TO PLAY&COACH...SMH 🤦🏽♀️ THEIR CLOTHES MOST WEAR IS RIDICULOUS....IDC TO WATCH THE NEW NBA ANYMORE. IF I WANT TO WATCH NBA, I GO BACK TO THE 80S-EARLY 2000S...BUT TO EACH IS OWN...BUT THIS IS MY OPINION 🗣🗣
its same with champions league football champion and nba champion, champions league football is the best football league in the word, nba is the best basketball league in the world, nba is in north america, champions league is in europe, Nba players are very good, Best ppg in this world cup basket 2023 are nba players, final mvp is nba player,i mean nba players they are good
Its as simple as this: America is not the entire world. And world champion is not equal in meaning to best in the world wich nobody is disputing anyways. Everyone defending these NBA players seems to be taking it as Noah saying they arent the best in the world. He just said its silly to call yourself world champion. And the rest of the world agrees!
Germany World champs ! NBA superstars trying to go to the olympics didn’t even play one qualifying game at the fiba world cup as they just want to take the glory of the gold medal but didn’t want to get their hands dirty pmaying at the Fiba World Basketball Championships.😂😂😂😂
NBA players and even the most casual fans do not care about what they are called. Everyone knows it is a league chamoionship. The few that responded took exception to Noah's decision to use his time at the podium to attack the NBA. He should enjoy his championship win and not attempt to further build himself up by tearing others down.
@@darrel7589 People think the NBA players took offense to the World Champions comment, when theyre really bothered by Noah bringing them up negatively for no apparent reason. No one calls them World Champions. They don't even call themselves that. Theyre called NBA Champions when they win the NBA Finals. Noah lied to the World and since many people of the World doesnt watch the NBA, they fell for the bait
@@pauljackson9716SANE PERSON!!! I'm old enough to have seen such statements after Iraq War and Gulf War and 9/11 etc... "F America, it was never great" etc etc This is what "hurts Noah the most" Think about THAT for a second... sad little clout chaser.
*Current* FIBA World Cup and it’s format is very recent and has only recently (maybe to “western world” viewers) become a thing. Yes the NBA is *old* and FIBA itself being older…but the point being made here is that football’s World Cup is at the highest level of prestige, FIBA’s version only fairly recently has come into people’s consciousness…leaving many people to have a fair argument that the NBA’s title is the most significant globally, for years. Now that the world is getting smaller basketball-wise with world talent getting better (as shown in this year’s World Cup) those international tournaments will be seen as a better judge of who is the best.
@@Baseline2BaselineUK I'm living outside the NBA bubble, so for me, there was always this duality of NBA (since early 80s) and FIBA (national team). Remember, back then it wasn't even possible for NBA pros to participate! The only world champion was played out at FIBA WC... But if I wanted to see Magic or Larry, I had to look at the NBA!
@@rainerzufall42 totally understand! And that’s where I think Noah’s comment was so much more profound than what he even expected. He was stating truth very simply…but your example shows how much the NBA isn’t really at the centre for everyone. It is undoubtedly the best league in the world with its collection of talent but these international competitions are the real deal with an even stage and footing for everyone to battle it out. What the Americans need to do is send their best to participate every time and then the debate can be had legitimately.
COUNTRY IS FAR BIGGER THAN CLUB. And there is no bigger honour in this world other than representing your country. refused to represent your country? That's just as unpatriotic as it can get.
Noah Lyles was correct, however how he conveyed his message was wrong. He was condescending and downplaying NBA players and their hard work when making that statement. Yes, they’re NBA champions (National Champions), but just because a you’re a world champion doesn’t mean you put someone down because of a title. This is probably the reason he received the backlash. He needs a PR rep who can teach him how to give better interviews and be respectful to those who have given him respect and praise throughout his career.
the message is a message no matter how you tell it usa players must put the huge ego down and to be honest Americans are not more the best players in the world period the last 4 mvps are not from usa you put the 2d best nba team you made from jordan era and you lost from GREECE in 2004 did i need to remind you the roster ???? why you (Americans) think this usa team is made for gold is above me !!! and sis hard work my ass did you see how they work in europe ???? he must say the message more softly are y serious??? when us players put the huge ego down and put they ass to work maybe they go walk in the right direction
Even if nobody can beat them that doesnt make the NBA a world championship league. Americans must know that there's a whole wide world out there that's way bigger than them.
that you have to invinte an expert when someone says usa is not the world like this is something we first have to discuss if right or wrong is saying something
Why we argue about this? It's very simple if a one country fight the other countries in the world and manage to defeat all them, you will be called "World Champion", NBA is National basketball sport league so it really means it was inside the US only.. Even there's some player came from other country you cannot say it was a world championship, because that foreigner is playing on that league becuz of paycheck, I hope don't be blinded by arrogantness, the world is not revolving just for them
Billions being paid with these egotistical, narcissistic Nba players like they are the only deserving talented athletes there is a sense of arrogance! 😂 FIBA Exposed them players! Noah is million % right!
Noah lyles is right nba is only for nba not global champion fiba world cup whos the winner is world champs and us now is loss to germany in semifinal so how bout that world champions of what? The level of fiba world cup, nba players cannot match germany and lithiuania defeat star studded usa..
There is a lot of truth to it, because USA team has lost games against others countries and let's take it consideration that basketball is evolving outside America and the proof of it is the numbers of foreign players, playing corrently in the NBA.
NBA players represented the USA in the last seven Olympics, and they won the gold medal in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020... Oh, that's right, you win the gold but your still not world champions. Makes total sense!" 🙄
Dude your comment is the best example of you not getting the point! The NBA is a close national league. You cannot be world champion period. Even though the level might be the highest.
That´s an olympic champion title. The title world champion was played out yesterday. To get this you have to try in a four years time in 2027 that´s your next chance to earn it.
Oh absolutely, because nothing screams 'world champions' like limiting the competition to a mere few weeks every four years during the Olympics. I mean, clearly the NBA, with its grueling season and playoffs featuring international stars from around the world competing at the highest level of the sport, just doesn't quite measure up, does it?
No it doesn't. Anybody who understands the logistics involved in organizing world competition would understand why it takes that long to put them together. But again, that is not the point here. Every other league in every sport in the world plays gruelling seasons, and has international stars from different countries playing there as well, including US players. The NBA just happens to have the strongest brand and is the most popular basketball league around the world. Having international stars and being widely known around the world doesn't make winners of a league world champions. National Teams playing against one another in world cups/championships does. In such tournaments, international players in the NBA will be playing against their teammates for a world title and is the winner is the world champion. To think that having more visibility means you have the most difficult league, gruelling seasons and whatnot is factually in correct. Also, the Olympics isn't the official world cup for Basketball, the FIBA Basketball World Cup is, which Germany won recently and USA came out fourth. So, no! Team USA aren't world champions and NBA champions are NBA champions. Nothing more than that.
False equivalency @michaelwtright8706 there are more international meets than the Olympics. Every year there are world championships in every branch of sport, alongside national championships. Americans only pay attention to international meets during the Olympics. To the rest of the world, the Olympics is actually 'just' another world championship. They have already competed against eachother at world level in the years in between Olympics. In some sports, the Olympics aren't even the most prestigious titles you can get!
No need to be butthurt Noah is completely right. US basketball team got their butts kicked in the world championship anyway not even in top 3 shameful 😂
Everybody is missing the overall point. (1) Noah lied. The Nuggets, the Warriors, the Bucks championship hats do not have the phrase World Champions, on it. When dude was in diapers, maybe he could make that argument but nah bro you tripping off of something that doesn’t exist. (2) when was the last time you heard anybody from the NBA refer to it as world champions? As alluded to in this video, clearly they have the best individuals and teams in the world. And I have heard NBA superstars bestow best in the world comments, but not the specific phrase world champions prior to Noah's rant! (3) the real point is why was he talking about the NBA in the first place? The reporter hadn't asked anything about the NBA, but merely what Noah could do to help elevate Track + Field. He responded out of frustration about Track not getting the love it deserves and unprompted, reached out to drag the NBA down (his condescending tone and expression prove my point), in order to try to lift his sport up. Even if he was telling the truth, I couldn't get behind his process....but he wasn't and most people got caught up on if NBA are world Champs. Check the full 12 minute interview and then tell me what is the real point!
@panafricannation but when you listen to the interview, he said it hurts the most when he sees World Champion on their heads. That practice ceased years ago. To make such an emphatic statement about something said offhand is telling more about you, then the thing said offhand.
@panafricannation I can respect that. I don't think Lyles set out to intentionally denigrate the NBA. The full interview displays how he let his frustrations about Track & Field not getting the love it deserves trigger him to lash out at the NBA, completely unprovoked. Even if what he said was 100% accurate and it is not, we should hesitate to want to get behind that and admonish him to be better prepared to handle interviews.
@@ccsportzlab961 the Lakers won how many years ago???? When Noah was talking, he spitting like it's a present condition when the fact is the opposite!! If he spoke in the past tense about history then that is different, but he didn't.....therefore HE LIED! Periodt. Try again.
That's because the world comes to America wishes they where Americans many become Americans we are the World you living in our world period America is Great
Manchester City is world champion of Football not Argentina. Factually Man City destroy Argentina in a game. That is where americans logic could led us
When the NBA refers to the champions as "world champions", it's essentially their way of saying, "Hey, our league is where the crème de la crème of basketball talent gathers from all corners of the world. So, if you win the championship here, you're basically the best in the world." It's a big nod to the high level of competition in the league and how it has historically been the benchmark for basketball excellence globally. Plus, it celebrates the global reach of the NBA, showing that it's not just an American event, but a global phenomenon, bringing together top talents worldwide to compete at the highest level. It's like saying, "Winning here means you've conquered the highest peak in the basketball world!"
What an arrogance. In your logic it is right that only nba teams are the best, in a league only north american teams can compete and the rest of the world not. That seems very very fair !! (Ha Ha) You say you are world champion (because you have no opponent) In our country and without the rest of the world we remain world champion. We say two words - pretentious pathetic You should lernen to lose with dignity. Have a nicht day.
The NBA is 78% American players, and only 22% international. It's not really that much of an international mix. The English Premier League is only 31% UK players and 69% international. So, it's way more international than the NBA, and it's still not a World Championship.
Right or not, the sprinter sounds like he would love to be paid like a NBA player, and he is a bit childish. NBA players are the best players recruited around the world, and the majority of the best players around the world are African American.
All Noah did was show how jealous he is of the NBA. This was his time to shine, and he uses the spotlight to lie and shit on the NBA. He completely ruined my first impression of him. Now every time I see his face I get annoyed.
Not world champions u people is so dunce and uneducated country have to been playing against each other in a global competition like the FIFA world cup or the Olympics
He just asked respect where it belonged to. He is world champion where as the NBA stars are wonna be´s and ignorant by just winning an national championship and calling themselves world champions or excepting to be called this way. And start debating on it. The americans allways want it big but here they have overstretched it, its´s just a national league. As football and baseball are (no world series at all). If the usa had won the world cup that´s finshed right now and where they got fourth place, they would have had the right to call themseves world champion they choose not todo so, or they couldn´t. That´s fine their choise. But then no world champion title, to achive something you have to get it not to assume you may have gotten it if you had wanted to. You have to accomplish not to pretend. @@tashied422
@@tashied422SUPER BASED!! Maurice Green won me over with talent!! Usain Bolt too!! I DO NOT care this guy exists; sullied his own greatness. This was THE FIRST TIME I'd heard of him... I remember watching an 18yo Boris Becker winning Wimbledon - he dragged down nobody in effort to shine.
He sounds like they ask for praise which they aren´t willing or arn´t able to achieve they could have done yesterday but their national team ended up fourth. Denver is just a national club champion and that´s what he pointed out.
The difference is track runners dont come all over the world to run in Jamaica..but when u got all the best players in the world to battle it out then u will get the best in the world who wins..the best of the best battle to be the overall best
@@shotarokaneda7525 just like in baseball when they call it the world series...and that's way more debatable...but u can debate with the USa with the Olympics men basketball..where in history they played a total of 149 games n only lost 6 ever...if we sent our best competition out there we would smoke any other country...imagine curry ...lebron even now..kd...just a few for example.....I proved my point with this example..lyles just mad the average nba player makes over 10 times what he makes and he is one of the best in his sport
@@danielthompson8867 Dude no one is arguing whether youre the best or not. None of the people saying National Basketball League champions are not World champions are disputing that the league has the best players. World champion does not mean the best or even most dominant. Manchester City won the Premier League and UEFA league. They compete against all the best players in the world. These players all congregate to play for the UEFA championship. They are still only European champions. Even though they could beat the Fifa world cup champions if they played. That doesn't matter. To be World Club champion they will beat the weakest competition they've faced all year😆🤣🤣because that is the only way to be a world champion. You can't be crowned off hypotheticals. Everything is Trans to you guys. Trans Champions is wild. Identifying as champions🏳️🌈🏆
@@danielthompson8867you actually didn't prove any point. The best football players in the the world play in the Champions League. Manchester City who won the league are not the World Champs. Why? It's not a global competition. The NBA is not a global competition regardless of whoever plays in the league.
@@Profitfromcoaching the Olympics is and we won 149 games out of 143...only lost 6 in history...this is why I proved my point...tell me what other country is better than the usa if we send our best..if u can't tell me u proved my point
Come on now!!! Yes , technically they are not competing against any European or Asian teams but do you really think, any club team in the world has any chance against the top 4 NBA teams??? Come on!!! Yes , I would call them The World Champion!!
That needs to be proven. Remember, that NBA and FIBA rules differ considerably. The playing time (40 minutes versus 48 minutes; less time-outs in FIBA) and the smaller field changes plus the fact that the three point line is about 1.5 feet coser to the basket changes the game considerably. Crashing the board is much more an option for FIBA. This means that boxing out is an very important skill not that much applied in NBA. Generating open 3-point-shots is diffucult in FIBA and requires faster ball movement and better tight coordination between players. Again, something you do not see so much in the NBA. Morover, the shot clock in FIBA games resets to 14 seconds after an offensive rebound. Defensive three seconds rule is not applicable in FIBA games. Foul limits and bonus situations are stricter in FIBA. Setting of screens, traveling and contact in general differ between NBA and FIBA. Also, NBA players have to play considerable more games during the season and the play off. NBA players simply have to play at a slower pace (especially in defence) otherwise they would suffer even more injuries. Because of relegation in FIBA national leagues, much more season games have an elimination character (losing means losing a lot of many for teams and players) while in the NBA franchises have the tanking option to coast to the bottom. So, if a top FIBA team would play against a top NBA team according to NBA rules the FIBA team would have a hard time. I doubt that an NBA team without proper preparation has a chance against top FIBA teams like Serbia under FIBA rules. In the FIBA world cup the USA (a team of NBA players of the USA) had an easy groupt with New Zealand, Jordan and Greece (they are not that good this year). They won against Montenegro and lost by 6 against Lithuania The match against Italy was a convicing victory and then they met the only undefeated Team and were lucky that they only lost by 2 against Germany . On the other hand, if a top FIBA team would play against a top NBA team I would assume that the NBA team would win. But who knows? These are nice what-if games. So letst call the winner of the NBA finals the NBA champions and the FIBA worldcup champions FIBA world champions. Okay?
It's not a matter of technicality. It's a matter of reality. They are not world champions. Club championships are not world champions. World Championships are between national teams, and some of the best players in the NBA are not Americans, and would be playing against their teammates to win. You reckon it would be that easy for Team USA to win against a team that included Giannis?
Your whole assumption is wrong club teams never become world champions just world club champions and this title has to be earned. Only national teams can become world champions and that´s what happend yesterday you had your chance.
That's not the point we all agree the NBA got the best players in the world. But the name itself states National not world. America lost to Germany. There are great players who didn't make it to play in the big leagues. You have no idea the best team in the NBA could loose to a community team around somewhere in Africa.
@@musaajallow3697 If there were an open competition, there would be no problem with a club being world champion. But there is none. Closed competitions, representing 4% of world's population, don't make a world champion!
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Other than the timing of his statement I don't see the problem with his statement. He is 100% correct and the fact that people especially NBA players are so butthurt just shows how delusional they are.
Germany is fiba world champions 2023, Denver Nuggets nba champions 2023 in United States.
It goes for most us sports really; world champions of america😂😂😂
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That Nuggets team would have washed the Germany team.
Edit: a lot of NBA teams would of washed that Germany team.
Noah is 100000 % Right ❤✔️✔️✔️
The national Anthem isn't played after the NBA championships.
The super bowl and the world series.
Noah Lyles is telling the truth.
and it hurts
No but for some reason it is played before most (if not all) games.
Well baseball is different because a newspaper call The world is responsible for both leagues compete for the title
@@axelagosto5196 there isn't any sport including baseball. If you when the championship in America the national Anthem is played.
It has to be on the world stage.
I laughed my ass off!
I like the NBA - watched it for many years -, but switched recently to the Euroleague Basketball, bc sportswise it's way more attractive.
And, yes, Noah Lyles was right on every point 🤟
Germany is the actual world champion, Spain was the previous one.....USA team finished 4th and 7th respectively
Even though I'm American, I love it when NBA players get humbled on the world stage. We really gotta stop spoiling our athletes in America because they get catered to all the time and get everything they want, especially in the NBA. Our basketball culture here is soft as hell and it shows with the outrageous egos in many of the NBA stars today when they started taking shots at Noah Lyles. The US is getting exposed a ton on the world stage in basketball and it's because NBA players put themselves first and can never put their ego and entitled behavior aside.
Well written! That is what most europeans think as well. That is why my fav. NBA players were mostly humble guys
@darrel7589 Say you're a casual without saying you're a casual.
It's like in the baseball, is Japan the world and Olympics champion correct me if I got it wrong
You got that right...I Agree...they are soft&the things they do...smh 🤦🏽♀️ some of it Ridiculous..look at what's his name, the 1 pulling out guns&💩 just being stupid
"NBA players started taking shots at Noah"
YOU'RE INSANE!!!
Sprinter, while being celebrated for sprinting: F the NBA
What planet are YOU on?!??!
I agree with Noah. NBA players are learning it the hard way.
It's shameful,though.
Even the European Champions league is bigger that he NBA. But it is not called world championships.
Just imagine if a soccer nation like Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. Would have their national league win a national championship but call themselves world champion. How would other countries react?
Not ok, right?
The title world champion can only be given to the winner of an international competition.
That's a 100 💯💯💯💯💯💯 Absolutely correct. National Basketball Association 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆. Use ur head
Aaron Gordon is part of this FIBA USA team that got waxed by Lithuania 🇱🇹 what a sweet justice! He couldn’t even muster double digits in scoring! 😂😂
Aaron Gordon isn’t on the USA team. I agree w Noah Lyles
There’s also baseball leagues, in Puerto Rico, Central America, Mexico….
All part of the americas, right???
Then make lazy Africans get u and play baseball or Basketball or Football or Hockey your not doing that the entire continent seems like they accepted slavery years ago
Lithuania 🇱🇹 waxing the USA 🇺🇸 just proved him 💯 right.
True; but it wasn't there best, and you know that...
@@chaunceybryant7362 and so what? Lyles point still stands.
I Didn't disagree with Noah, I disagreed with you. "You know that wasn't and it's not our best. You trying to evade my statement by shifting to Noah.
Actually it proves that it takes less than our best for other countries to have a chance to win.....when the dream team, or the best of the NBA played in the Olympics, name the country that could even come close to our level.
what international team would beaten michael jordan's bulls teams? not even an all-star team....magic and kareem's lakers, larry bird's celtics, kobe's lakers, curry's warriors??? those were actual teams. basketball and baseball are historically american sports, why would they not be called the world champion?
Look it's simple, for years the NBA was the league most respected and admired THROUGHOUT the world. Im 65yrs old and I have watch the transitions from before magic and bird. As the league push further into world markets the world got better and our ability to see the world stage has also gotten smaller with social platforms. Bottom line the game has changed and so have the world markets
Germany is the world champions in basketball. 🏀🏆🥇
Football, basketball baseball and ice hockey. is the same foŕ years.
Finally an American has spoken out.
Good going
Objectively if you play in a league that don’t even play by FIBA rules how can you be world champions???
thats not the main problem the main thing is you cant call yourself world champion if its just a national championship
I would like the American NBA players to be more proud to represent their country, just like the Dream Team and the Redeem Team did in the past.
Those selected NBA players are not the NBA champion team though. They'll be world champions if they win the FIBA world cup, yes but they are not the NBA champion. What is being pointed out is the NBA champions shouldn't be called World champions.
Noah was asked, "what you would like to see happen in the sport, what can improve, and what can you do to help Foster that change." That was the three-part question that Noah was asked before he went ballistic on the NBA. I'm steal scratching my head.
NBA is like civil war you win no flag.
FIBA is like worldwar you have to win your flag.
PERIOD
What is the definition of "world" in the US?
I was studying in the US and watching "World News".
There were no other news presented as from the US.
Not even Europe was considered for some World News.
Besides a competition for national teams (FIBA World Cup) there should be established a champions league from around world for the best club teams.
Only then the champion of the NBA could also become a champion of the best club teams in the world and call itself
"World Champion".
hes true to the bones.. NBA are world champions of businesses but never champions of pride
Hmm so what about the MLB "World Series"??
You can say Premier League is the best soccer league, but if you win the Premier League you are not a world champion of soccer.
But respect for that the gamebasketball is invented or created by americans... Dont forget
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@@joaquindecastro6000and so does soccer invented by english, but their champs never claimed as world champs.
It's like saying Henry Ford invented cars but look at Ford. People probably refer to German/Italian cars when it comes to attention to detail
Bad example and ignorant as everything sayd in context with basketball. Henry Ford didn´t invent the car. This was invented in Germany by Carl Benz and Mercedes-Benz still exists and is the oldest car company in the world.@@alandaddydaycare200
I'm African and I can say very few to nothing will stay up all night to watch the NBA. But we are all in to watch the European soccer leagues just because we want to see our African brothers play and there's a lotta them there.
Yep and those racist Spaniards are European let them know with the racist name calling and the yellow fruit thrown at them all facts here dun research if you don't believe
Just don't say soccer, its called football, that's another stupid thing the Americans have said. It makes more sense too call American football American handball. Football is played with the foot . Now which game uses the foot more. One country in the world calls English football soccer, usa . 😊
I use to love watching NBA, BUT I STOPPED WATCHING ABOUT 6 YRS AGO...JUST WASN'T THE SAME, WAS EXCITING TO ME TO WATCH, &THATS MY OPINION. ITS ALL ABOUT THE $$ FOR MOST&NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE TEAM...YOU GOT PLAYERS TRYING TO PLAY&COACH...SMH 🤦🏽♀️
THEIR CLOTHES MOST WEAR IS RIDICULOUS....IDC TO WATCH THE NEW NBA ANYMORE.
IF I WANT TO WATCH NBA, I GO BACK TO THE 80S-EARLY 2000S...BUT TO EACH IS OWN...BUT THIS IS MY OPINION 🗣🗣
its same with champions league football champion and nba champion, champions league football is the best football league in the word, nba is the best basketball league in the world, nba is in north america, champions league is in europe, Nba players are very good, Best ppg in this world cup basket 2023 are nba players, final mvp is nba player,i mean nba players they are good
What about baseball World Series
Its as simple as this: America is not the entire world. And world champion is not equal in meaning to best in the world wich nobody is disputing anyways. Everyone defending these NBA players seems to be taking it as Noah saying they arent the best in the world. He just said its silly to call yourself world champion. And the rest of the world agrees!
Germany World champs ! NBA superstars trying to go to the olympics didn’t even play one qualifying game at the fiba world cup as they just want to take the glory of the gold medal but didn’t want to get their hands dirty pmaying at the Fiba World Basketball Championships.😂😂😂😂
Unless your playing the world your not world champion. Personally i don't care what you call them.
He’s absolutely right
NBA players and even the most casual fans do not care about what they are called. Everyone knows it is a league chamoionship. The few that responded took exception to Noah's decision to use his time at the podium to attack the NBA. He should enjoy his championship win and not attempt to further build himself up by tearing others down.
@darrel7589 Agree, suspect he's trying to capitalize off of anti-American sentiment that is so popular these days.
@@darrel7589 People think the NBA players took offense to the World Champions comment, when theyre really bothered by Noah bringing them up negatively for no apparent reason. No one calls them World Champions. They don't even call themselves that. Theyre called NBA Champions when they win the NBA Finals. Noah lied to the World and since many people of the World doesnt watch the NBA, they fell for the bait
@@pauljackson9716 100% agree
SANE PERSON!!!
"He just stated a fact, he stated a fact!!! National =/ World, he stated a fact!!!!!!"
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@@pauljackson9716SANE PERSON!!!
I'm old enough to have seen such statements after Iraq War and Gulf War and 9/11 etc... "F America, it was never great" etc etc
This is what "hurts Noah the most"
Think about THAT for a second... sad little clout chaser.
Historic reasons???
FIBA - founded 1932
NBA - founded 1946
Any questions?
*Current* FIBA World Cup and it’s format is very recent and has only recently (maybe to “western world” viewers) become a thing. Yes the NBA is *old* and FIBA itself being older…but the point being made here is that football’s World Cup is at the highest level of prestige, FIBA’s version only fairly recently has come into people’s consciousness…leaving many people to have a fair argument that the NBA’s title is the most significant globally, for years. Now that the world is getting smaller basketball-wise with world talent getting better (as shown in this year’s World Cup) those international tournaments will be seen as a better judge of who is the best.
@@Baseline2BaselineUK I'm living outside the NBA bubble, so for me, there was always this duality of NBA (since early 80s) and FIBA (national team). Remember, back then it wasn't even possible for NBA pros to participate! The only world champion was played out at FIBA WC... But if I wanted to see Magic or Larry, I had to look at the NBA!
@@rainerzufall42 totally understand! And that’s where I think Noah’s comment was so much more profound than what he even expected. He was stating truth very simply…but your example shows how much the NBA isn’t really at the centre for everyone. It is undoubtedly the best league in the world with its collection of talent but these international competitions are the real deal with an even stage and footing for everyone to battle it out. What the Americans need to do is send their best to participate every time and then the debate can be had legitimately.
COUNTRY IS FAR BIGGER THAN CLUB. And there is no bigger honour in this world other than representing your country. refused to represent your country? That's just as unpatriotic as it can get.
so Noah Lyles exposed a lot ignorant and arrogant people😅
Noah Lyles was correct, however how he conveyed his message was wrong. He was condescending and downplaying NBA players and their hard work when making that statement. Yes, they’re NBA champions (National Champions), but just because a you’re a world champion doesn’t mean you put someone down because of a title. This is probably the reason he received the backlash. He needs a PR rep who can teach him how to give better interviews and be respectful to those who have given him respect and praise throughout his career.
the message is a message no matter how you tell it usa players must put the huge ego down and to be honest Americans are not more the best players in the world period the last 4 mvps are not from usa you put the 2d best nba team you made from jordan era and you lost from GREECE in 2004 did i need to remind you the roster ???? why you (Americans) think this usa team is made for gold is above me !!! and sis hard work my ass did you see how they work in europe ???? he must say the message more softly are y serious??? when us players put the huge ego down and put they ass to work maybe they go walk in the right direction
Can any team outside the NBA beat the Denver Nuggets? Golden state warriors?
Yes!
Even if nobody can beat them that doesnt make the NBA a world championship league. Americans must know that there's a whole wide world out there that's way bigger than them.
Nuggets without Joker easy
Even if they can't.. as long as the league is National.. which it is, it could never be "world champions"
Are they all American?
Madam, if someone decides to truly defe d their territory, they should do so intelligently
I don't want to brag, but last year our amateur footsal team was the world champion of our regional 2nd division.
that you have to invinte an expert when someone says usa is not the world like this is something we first have to discuss if right or wrong is saying something
So true it hurts.
Why we argue about this? It's very simple if a one country fight the other countries in the world and manage to defeat all them, you will be called "World Champion", NBA is National basketball sport league so it really means it was inside the US only.. Even there's some player came from other country you cannot say it was a world championship, because that foreigner is playing on that league becuz of paycheck, I hope don't be blinded by arrogantness, the world is not revolving just for them
Sad. The best players dont have balls to represent their country against the world, with afraid of injuries...
Billions being paid with these egotistical, narcissistic Nba players like they are the only deserving talented athletes there is a sense of arrogance! 😂 FIBA Exposed them players! Noah is million % right!
Do people know there are multiple definitions for the word world. Or am I the last intellectual left on the planet
Noah lyles is right nba is only for nba not global champion fiba world cup whos the winner is world champs and us now is loss to germany in semifinal so how bout that world champions of what? The level of fiba world cup, nba players cannot match germany and lithiuania defeat star studded usa..
If the NBA champion is the world champion, then what is Germany, after winning the FIBA championships ??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have heard that statement Long Long time ago it just was not a Track Star
Noah Lyles's has a point.
Best football league is UEFA Champions league
There is a lot of truth to it, because USA team has lost games against others countries and let's take it consideration that basketball is evolving outside America and the proof of it is the numbers of foreign players, playing corrently in the NBA.
kinda-unrelated,but-this-news-lady-is-as-pretty-as-a-flower.
Red shirt couldnt holding his coolness lol
Donts used World Champ. It's a National basketball league. Go out a play the World Basketball Association champ
NBA players represented the USA in the last seven Olympics, and they won the gold medal in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020... Oh, that's right, you win the gold but your still not world champions. Makes total sense!" 🙄
Dude your comment is the best example of you not getting the point!
The NBA is a close national league. You cannot be world champion period. Even though the level might be the highest.
That´s an olympic champion title. The title world champion was played out yesterday. To get this you have to try in a four years time in 2027 that´s your next chance to earn it.
@@mytwocents2817 For the Olympic winners, the correct title should be "Olympic Gold Medalist" and not Olympic Champion!😊
Oh absolutely, because nothing screams 'world champions' like limiting the competition to a mere few weeks every four years during the Olympics. I mean, clearly the NBA, with its grueling season and playoffs featuring international stars from around the world competing at the highest level of the sport, just doesn't quite measure up, does it?
No it doesn't. Anybody who understands the logistics involved in organizing world competition would understand why it takes that long to put them together. But again, that is not the point here.
Every other league in every sport in the world plays gruelling seasons, and has international stars from different countries playing there as well, including US players. The NBA just happens to have the strongest brand and is the most popular basketball league around the world. Having international stars and being widely known around the world doesn't make winners of a league world champions.
National Teams playing against one another in world cups/championships does. In such tournaments, international players in the NBA will be playing against their teammates for a world title and is the winner is the world champion.
To think that having more visibility means you have the most difficult league, gruelling seasons and whatnot is factually in correct.
Also, the Olympics isn't the official world cup for Basketball, the FIBA Basketball World Cup is, which Germany won recently and USA came out fourth.
So, no! Team USA aren't world champions and NBA champions are NBA champions. Nothing more than that.
False equivalency @michaelwtright8706 there are more international meets than the Olympics. Every year there are world championships in every branch of sport, alongside national championships. Americans only pay attention to international meets during the Olympics. To the rest of the world, the Olympics is actually 'just' another world championship. They have already competed against eachother at world level in the years in between Olympics. In some sports, the Olympics aren't even the most prestigious titles you can get!
No need to be butthurt Noah is completely right. US basketball team got their butts kicked in the world championship anyway not even in top 3 shameful 😂
Everybody is missing the overall point. (1) Noah lied. The Nuggets, the Warriors, the Bucks championship hats do not have the phrase World Champions, on it. When dude was in diapers, maybe he could make that argument but nah bro you tripping off of something that doesn’t exist. (2) when was the last time you heard anybody from the NBA refer to it as world champions? As alluded to in this video, clearly they have the best individuals and teams in the world. And I have heard NBA superstars bestow best in the world comments, but not the specific phrase world champions prior to Noah's rant! (3) the real point is why was he talking about the NBA in the first place? The reporter hadn't asked anything about the NBA, but merely what Noah could do to help elevate Track + Field. He responded out of frustration about Track not getting the love it deserves and unprompted, reached out to drag the NBA down (his condescending tone and expression prove my point), in order to try to lift his sport up. Even if he was telling the truth, I couldn't get behind his process....but he wasn't and most people got caught up on if NBA are world Champs. Check the full 12 minute interview and then tell me what is the real point!
@panafricannation but when you listen to the interview, he said it hurts the most when he sees World Champion on their heads. That practice ceased years ago. To make such an emphatic statement about something said offhand is telling more about you, then the thing said offhand.
@panafricannation I can respect that. I don't think Lyles set out to intentionally denigrate the NBA. The full interview displays how he let his frustrations about Track & Field not getting the love it deserves trigger him to lash out at the NBA, completely unprovoked. Even if what he said was 100% accurate and it is not, we should hesitate to want to get behind that and admonish him to be better prepared to handle interviews.
@@charles6724go and watch the ring ceremony for Lakers 2020 and u will hear World Champions
U conveniently left out the lakers, btw go and watch there ring ceremonies and come back n say they don’t call themselves that
@@ccsportzlab961 the Lakers won how many years ago???? When Noah was talking, he spitting like it's a present condition when the fact is the opposite!! If he spoke in the past tense about history then that is different, but he didn't.....therefore HE LIED! Periodt. Try again.
That's because the world comes to America wishes they where Americans many become Americans we are the World you living in our world period America is Great
The thing you have to understand America like make thing that they're better than everyone in sports Ave so many things.
NBA is simply a National Basketball Association of America. They are not World Champions. NBA players need help with education. Simple.
Manchester City is world champion of Football not Argentina.
Factually Man City destroy Argentina in a game.
That is where americans logic could led us
Americans tend to think any champ - NBA, MLB, NFL is a world champion. Far from it.
Maybe they are the center of the world
Lol touché. 😂
Nobody wants to watch the Celtics crush some scrub Euro team by 50.
When the NBA refers to the champions as "world champions", it's essentially their way of saying, "Hey, our league is where the crème de la crème of basketball talent gathers from all corners of the world. So, if you win the championship here, you're basically the best in the world." It's a big nod to the high level of competition in the league and how it has historically been the benchmark for basketball excellence globally. Plus, it celebrates the global reach of the NBA, showing that it's not just an American event, but a global phenomenon, bringing together top talents worldwide to compete at the highest level. It's like saying, "Winning here means you've conquered the highest peak in the basketball world!"
"Basically" is the key word. Which means almost as. But they aren't world champions. Germany is.
What an arrogance.
In your logic it is right that only nba teams
are the best, in a league only north american teams
can compete and the rest of the world not.
That seems very very fair !! (Ha Ha)
You say you are world champion (because you have no opponent)
In our country and without the rest of the world we remain world champion.
We say two words - pretentious pathetic
You should lernen to lose with dignity.
Have a nicht day.
@@Čangrizavi_Cinikincorrect basically is simplification. The simplification is the title what is above is the definition for the nba
The NBA is 78% American players, and only 22% international. It's not really that much of an international mix. The English Premier League is only 31% UK players and 69% international. So, it's way more international than the NBA, and it's still not a World Championship.
Well, I guess NBA is gone be changing their Names in the near future 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤔😳😅😅😅😅😅😅
Just Joking... but I wouldn't be Surprised 🤨
Right or not, the sprinter sounds like he would love to be paid like a NBA player, and he is a bit childish. NBA players are the best players recruited around the world, and the majority of the best players around the world are African American.
All Noah did was show how jealous he is of the NBA. This was his time to shine, and he uses the spotlight to lie and shit on the NBA. He completely ruined my first impression of him. Now every time I see his face I get annoyed.
Not world champions u people is so dunce and uneducated country have to been playing against each other in a global competition like the FIFA world cup or the Olympics
He just asked respect where it belonged to. He is world champion where as the NBA stars are wonna be´s and ignorant by just winning an national championship and calling themselves world champions or excepting to be called this way. And start debating on it. The americans allways want it big but here they have overstretched it, its´s just a national league. As football and baseball are (no world series at all). If the usa had won the world cup that´s finshed right now and where they got fourth place, they would have had the right to call themseves world champion they choose not todo so, or they couldn´t. That´s fine their choise. But then no world champion title, to achive something you have to get it not to assume you may have gotten it if you had wanted to. You have to accomplish not to pretend. @@tashied422
@@tashied422SUPER BASED!!
Maurice Green won me over with talent!!
Usain Bolt too!!
I DO NOT care this guy exists; sullied his own greatness.
This was THE FIRST TIME I'd heard of him... I remember watching an 18yo Boris Becker winning Wimbledon - he dragged down nobody in effort to shine.
He sounds like they ask for praise which they aren´t willing or arn´t able to achieve they could have done yesterday but their national team ended up fourth. Denver is just a national club champion and that´s what he pointed out.
USA are world champions of everything 😂
Whether they call themselves world champs or not,
It's still the best league in the world. Calll it whatever you want
nope that´s not how things work.
LOL
You can make that argument, but they are not world champions. That's just the point people are making.
Not world champions
I call them NBA champions and not world champions!😂
P r o m o S M
The difference is track runners dont come all over the world to run in Jamaica..but when u got all the best players in the world to battle it out then u will get the best in the world who wins..the best of the best battle to be the overall best
😂😂😂😂there are other sports leagues where the best congregate in one competition. This is not a good point dude😂😂😂
@@shotarokaneda7525 just like in baseball when they call it the world series...and that's way more debatable...but u can debate with the USa with the Olympics men basketball..where in history they played a total of 149 games n only lost 6 ever...if we sent our best competition out there we would smoke any other country...imagine curry ...lebron even now..kd...just a few for example.....I proved my point with this example..lyles just mad the average nba player makes over 10 times what he makes and he is one of the best in his sport
@@danielthompson8867 Dude no one is arguing whether youre the best or not. None of the people saying National Basketball League champions are not World champions are disputing that the league has the best players. World champion does not mean the best or even most dominant. Manchester City won the Premier League and UEFA league. They compete against all the best players in the world. These players all congregate to play for the UEFA championship. They are still only European champions. Even though they could beat the Fifa world cup champions if they played. That doesn't matter. To be World Club champion they will beat the weakest competition they've faced all year😆🤣🤣because that is the only way to be a world champion. You can't be crowned off hypotheticals. Everything is Trans to you guys. Trans Champions is wild.
Identifying as champions🏳️🌈🏆
@@danielthompson8867you actually didn't prove any point. The best football players in the the world play in the Champions League. Manchester City who won the league are not the World Champs. Why? It's not a global competition. The NBA is not a global competition regardless of whoever plays in the league.
@@Profitfromcoaching the Olympics is and we won 149 games out of 143...only lost 6 in history...this is why I proved my point...tell me what other country is better than the usa if we send our best..if u can't tell me u proved my point
Come on now!!!
Yes , technically they are not competing against any European or Asian teams but do you really think, any club team in the world has any chance against the top 4 NBA teams??? Come on!!!
Yes , I would call them The World Champion!!
That needs to be proven. Remember, that NBA and FIBA rules differ considerably. The playing time (40 minutes versus 48 minutes; less time-outs in FIBA) and the smaller field changes plus the fact that the three point line is about 1.5 feet coser to the basket changes the game considerably. Crashing the board is much more an option for FIBA. This means that boxing out is an very important skill not that much applied in NBA. Generating open 3-point-shots is diffucult in FIBA and requires faster ball movement and better tight coordination between players. Again, something you do not see so much in the NBA. Morover, the shot clock in FIBA games resets to 14 seconds after an offensive rebound. Defensive three seconds rule is not applicable in FIBA games. Foul limits and bonus situations are stricter in FIBA. Setting of screens, traveling and contact in general differ between NBA and FIBA. Also, NBA players have to play considerable more games during the season and the play off. NBA players simply have to play at a slower pace (especially in defence) otherwise they would suffer even more injuries. Because of relegation in FIBA national leagues, much more season games have an elimination character (losing means losing a lot of many for teams and players) while in the NBA franchises have the tanking option to coast to the bottom.
So, if a top FIBA team would play against a top NBA team according to NBA rules the FIBA team would have a hard time. I doubt that an NBA team without proper preparation has a chance against top FIBA teams like Serbia under FIBA rules. In the FIBA world cup the USA (a team of NBA players of the USA) had an easy groupt with New Zealand, Jordan and Greece (they are not that good this year). They won against Montenegro and lost by 6 against Lithuania The match against Italy was a convicing victory and then they met the only undefeated Team and were lucky that they only lost by 2 against Germany .
On the other hand, if a top FIBA team would play against a top NBA team I would assume that the NBA team would win. But who knows? These are nice what-if games.
So letst call the winner of the NBA finals the NBA champions and the FIBA worldcup champions FIBA world champions. Okay?
It's not a matter of technicality. It's a matter of reality. They are not world champions.
Club championships are not world champions.
World Championships are between national teams, and some of the best players in the NBA are not Americans, and would be playing against their teammates to win. You reckon it would be that easy for Team USA to win against a team that included Giannis?
Your whole assumption is wrong club teams never become world champions just world club champions and this title has to be earned. Only national teams can become world champions and that´s what happend yesterday you had your chance.
That's not the point we all agree the NBA got the best players in the world. But the name itself states National not world. America lost to Germany. There are great players who didn't make it to play in the big leagues. You have no idea the best team in the NBA could loose to a community team around somewhere in Africa.
@@musaajallow3697 If there were an open competition, there would be no problem with a club being world champion. But there is none. Closed competitions, representing 4% of world's population, don't make a world champion!