Kyma is the most amazing sound engine on the planet. Anyone that can't grasp what's going on is probably a wanabe dj :) some of us have been watching this company since the beginning. I think one of the greatest sounds ever created was the voice of the Borg. I will have one someday then die a happy sound designer.
It’s not just software. Kyma works with specialised top-quality DSP hardware made by the same company, Symbolic Sounds. It is THE DSP workstation for sound designers and it comes with a hefty price. But it’s worth every penny.
Kyma is a programmable hardware environment that uses Digital Signal Processing microchips to perform, very efficiently, in real time, some very advanced tranformations of sound. Reaktor, Max/MSP, ChucK, SuperCollider and Kyma have some overlap in what they can accomplish and each in their own ways. Each has their own flavour. You've gotta taste it to know if you like it, and sometimes it's an acquired taste, like beer at the age of 12.
Thanks for this comment, biofunk! Exactly this. I remember the first time I heard of this company maybe 15 years ago. The first thing I did was asking for info material. And they have progressed a lot since then. A lot!
This video isn’t about some fancy music you can make but about the algorithms. Apart from that, Carla Scarletti is the inventor and programmer of this. If anyone is capable of using this properly then it’s her.
I thought that's exactly what makes music so fantastic; it's endlessness and infinite possibilities.. If it weren't this way that would mean there is an end or "limit" and would therefore stagnate at some point.
You wish! It’s using top-class DSP hardware with pretty much the best audio converters you can get. No PC sound card comes even close. As with all sound design software you can produce garbage with it. But when it comes to sound quality and implementation of the latest sound algorithms, Kyma is pretty much without competition.
@CW2SCOGG This actually isn't some new "concept". Symbolic Sound has been around for a bit now and has a couple products available: Kyma, Pacarana, Paca, and Capybara. And anyone who knows audio knows that they make the "holy grail" of sound design tools. Check 'em out @ symbolicsound.
Thank you for the perspective. Either way, the grad school I am most heavily considering has a Kyma system in the electronic music studio, so I'll probably wind up finding out for myself.
Always wondered what he uses, I knew he used Kontakt but had an inkling that he may have used the Kyma in some sort. Awesome music from him as well, for those out there that aren't aware I suggest "Out From Outwhere" and "Supermodified" great albums...
This concept is really nice and needs proper starup funding from serious investors. The 'nerds' can then work on getting a keyboard with (the ability to store patches) built around the software system. Once that happens, take it to NAMM and get more hype going. It would kill the V-synth if it had the right user interface and immediacy needed to make it a proper musical instrument, rather than an 'lab' experiment. Right now, it is a great idea without a direction.
I give up; it is literally impossible to know everything about music. After being a studio tech, producer and band guru for over ten years, I am still utterly confused at how open-ended music has become, and how many millions of rabbit holes there are to fall down.
not to be disrespectful in any way at all--i mean it as a legitimate question: I use Max/MSP and love it, but am very unfamiliar with Kyma. Can I actually achieve anything with Kyma that I could not with Max/MSP? If there is anything, I am failing to conceive it.
They ultimately provide many of the same tools, but the architecture, topology, and most importantly sound aesthetic system precision management are wildly different.
From my understanding, making it a proper musical instrument OotB is absolutely not the goal. It's a programming environment of sorts, so it's really for sound design and making unique plugins. If you check out amon tobin's setup however, he uses the Pacarana Kyma with the Haken continuum, which is faar more expressive and musical than any keyboard could be. Of course, this is a $9k setup, and I'm sure he programs a good bit before even touching the Haken...
Audio processiing - even in real time, takes very little processing power by todays standards. I'll have to read more about this because it seems like overkill just to mess with audio - all that processing power. I must be missing something.
Non linear editing of audio (distortion, saturation, compression etc) can cause aliasing, unless you run at incredibly high sample rates or use oversampling, both suck up cpu power
This concept needs proper funding from decent startup investors. The 'nerds' can then work on getting a proper keyboard with the ability to store patches built around the software system. Once that happens, take it to NAMM and get more hype going. It would kill the V-synth if it had the right user interface and immediacy needed to make it a proper musical instrument, rather than an 'lab' experiment.
@synclavier123 My point exactly. Get a salesperson who has a clue how to bring some energy, enthusiasm - shit - someone articulate enough to finish a sentence? She's a genius, I'll give her that - but they need to keep her in the lab.
Why is this person "an idiot" for asking what seems to be a an innocent, non-judgemental question. There's great irony in the fact that "YOU'RE" using improper grammar in YOUR accusation of another's alleged stupidity.
Thanks for pointing out the grammatical misstep. I'm aware of my inabilities. I'm also aware of an insulting comment towards this person who is clearly a woman.... maybe "Morgan_Fucking_Freeman" is the person to respond to his or her intent. By the way, if my comment was "great irony" then I thank you for pointing out that I'm great. You are kind.
Kyma is the most amazing sound engine on the planet. Anyone that can't grasp what's going on is probably a wanabe dj :) some of us have been watching this company since the beginning. I think one of the greatest sounds ever created was the voice of the Borg. I will have one someday then die a happy sound designer.
It’s not just software. Kyma works with specialised top-quality DSP hardware made by the same company, Symbolic Sounds.
It is THE DSP workstation for sound designers and it comes with a hefty price. But it’s worth every penny.
Kyma is a programmable hardware environment that uses Digital Signal Processing microchips to perform, very efficiently, in real time, some very advanced tranformations of sound. Reaktor, Max/MSP, ChucK, SuperCollider and Kyma have some overlap in what they can accomplish and each in their own ways. Each has their own flavour. You've gotta taste it to know if you like it, and sometimes it's an acquired taste, like beer at the age of 12.
Thanks for this comment, biofunk! Exactly this. I remember the first time I heard of this company maybe 15 years ago. The first thing I did was asking for info material. And they have progressed a lot since then. A lot!
MORE DEMOS OF THIS THING IS NEEDED!!!
hmm.. lets make an open-source edtion to that xD
This video isn’t about some fancy music you can make but about the algorithms.
Apart from that, Carla Scarletti is the inventor and programmer of this. If anyone is capable of using this properly then it’s her.
I thought that's exactly what makes music so fantastic; it's endlessness and infinite possibilities.. If it weren't this way that would mean there is an end or "limit" and would therefore stagnate at some point.
You wish! It’s using top-class DSP hardware with pretty much the best audio converters you can get. No PC sound card comes even close.
As with all sound design software you can produce garbage with it. But when it comes to sound quality and implementation of the latest sound algorithms, Kyma is pretty much without competition.
@CW2SCOGG This actually isn't some new "concept". Symbolic Sound has been around for a bit now and has a couple products available: Kyma, Pacarana, Paca, and Capybara. And anyone who knows audio knows that they make the "holy grail" of sound design tools. Check 'em out @ symbolicsound.
Thank you for the perspective. Either way, the grad school I am most heavily considering has a Kyma system in the electronic music studio, so I'll probably wind up finding out for myself.
Startup funding? Symbolic sounds has been a well-established company for some time.
Kyma is a brilliant system. This demo is a little weak, but I know she's brilliant, too, so I cut her some slack.
I think she has a very synthetic voice, first time I heard it I thought this was the processed signal already ;)
@aidanday She's the designer, Einstein.
Always wondered what he uses, I knew he used Kontakt but had an inkling that he may have used the Kyma in some sort. Awesome music from him as well, for those out there that aren't aware I suggest "Out From Outwhere" and "Supermodified" great albums...
This concept is really nice and needs proper starup funding from serious investors.
The 'nerds' can then work on getting a keyboard with (the ability to store patches) built around the software system. Once that happens, take it to NAMM and get more hype going.
It would kill the V-synth if it had the right user interface and immediacy needed to make it a proper musical instrument, rather than an 'lab' experiment. Right now, it is a great idea without a direction.
@myleftnutts no worries, I will get one soon and make music with it ;)
I give up; it is literally impossible to know everything about music. After being a studio tech, producer and band guru for over ten years, I am still utterly confused at how open-ended music has become, and how many millions of rabbit holes there are to fall down.
not to be disrespectful in any way at all--i mean it as a legitimate question: I use Max/MSP and love it, but am very unfamiliar with Kyma. Can I actually achieve anything with Kyma that I could not with Max/MSP? If there is anything, I am failing to conceive it.
They ultimately provide many of the same tools, but the architecture, topology, and most importantly sound aesthetic system precision management are wildly different.
@MOOGSONICSIX oh trust me it is not....add a continuum to it and it gets pretty interesting
From my understanding, making it a proper musical instrument OotB is absolutely not the goal. It's a programming environment of sorts, so it's really for sound design and making unique plugins. If you check out amon tobin's setup however, he uses the Pacarana Kyma with the Haken continuum, which is faar more expressive and musical than any keyboard could be. Of course, this is a $9k setup, and I'm sure he programs a good bit before even touching the Haken...
Audio processiing - even in real time, takes very little processing power by todays standards. I'll have to read more about this because it seems like overkill just to mess with audio - all that processing power. I must be missing something.
Non linear editing of audio (distortion, saturation, compression etc) can cause aliasing, unless you run at incredibly high sample rates or use oversampling, both suck up cpu power
Still using my Pacarana everyday.
This concept needs proper funding from decent startup investors.
The 'nerds' can then work on getting a proper keyboard with the ability to store patches built around the software system. Once that happens, take it to NAMM and get more hype going.
It would kill the V-synth if it had the right user interface and immediacy needed to make it a proper musical instrument, rather than an 'lab' experiment.
go to a fucking superstore and get the whole second hand carsalesman treatment then, if thats what you like.
Personally i was listening to the sounds.
did you use it in your studio, and if - still?
I bought a Pacarana 15 years ago, and I still use it every day. A few videos of my creations and experiments are on my channel.
what is she pressing on with this pen kind of thing?!
A Wacom Tablet
@synclavier123 My point exactly. Get a salesperson who has a clue how to bring some energy, enthusiasm - shit - someone articulate enough to finish a sentence? She's a genius, I'll give her that - but they need to keep her in the lab.
Wow, she's really bringing the energy in this one. They couldn't send a sales-person with a pulse, instead?
if i'm being honest, i have absolutely no recollection of writing that comment.
YOU AINT REMBRIN IT PROPA
@aidanday No... they need a fukkin "Musician" to play some Music on the thing,maybe "Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays".???.
YOU AINT USIN IT PROPA
o kurna ale to jest spoko
I made a few demos on my channel.
too bad it isn't cheap. It isn't even expensive. It is far above that.
i'm not impressed
Is that a guy or a girl? Really weird either way.
Carla Scarletti
Your an idiot
Why is this person "an idiot" for asking what seems to be a an innocent, non-judgemental question.
There's great irony in the fact that "YOU'RE" using improper grammar in YOUR accusation of another's alleged stupidity.
Thanks for pointing out the grammatical misstep. I'm aware of my inabilities. I'm also aware of an insulting comment towards this person who is clearly a woman.... maybe "Morgan_Fucking_Freeman" is the person to respond to his or her intent.
By the way, if my comment was "great irony" then I thank you for pointing out that I'm great. You are kind.
You are an idiot