Don't Be A Ding Dong
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2023
- In this video I bring you along as I help a customer fix some screw ups performed at his last place of repair. The other shop really did a number cross threading his O2 sensors and this fella had to pay to fix it twice. If ya can't do your job right or you're struggling, ask for help.
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TRQ sensors are also sold on Amazon...
trq trusted reliable quality
They make great how to videos on their YT but seeing this will make me think twice if I ever needed to order parts from them
That's what happens when you use no name o2 sensor
I about died laughing. This just hit me at the right moment. Comes "pre-rusted" from the factory. That way you do not have to wait for winter road salt. In this case the manifold will match the other parts in the car.
That manifold was atrocious...apparently the word "dessicant" doesn't exist in Nissan's vocabulary
I work in the metal finishing industry and you'd be mortified to know how many automotive parts come through our plant because they sat on the shelf too long and were deemed too rusty to install. And they rusted NASTY. So they send them to people like us to clean up the rust so they can be used. How many rusty parts got put on your car because it "wasn't TOO bad..."
I wish he would have hit it with high temp paint. But being a Nissan it probably only has a few years left.
That “ NEW “ Exhaust manifold looked awful ! I would of returned it , But maybe no more are available for weeks. Who knows. Might of had to use it. Might have been nice to hit it with a Glass bead blaster real quick & Throw some High heat paint on it. Cars probably a beater though , just needs to get back on the road. Maybe a Wire wheel & a little high heat paint real quick. Life’s not perfect ive found. Sometimes u just gotta do what u gotta do.
Ripped the bag on the assembly line, left the shipping container door open on the way over from Japan, dropped in in a puddle upon arrival at the dealership, and put it on the parts shelf next to an open window until today...
Its pre-rusted to match the pile of crap car its going into...nice of Nissan to make their new parts look like the 14 year old part that was just removed....that or Nissan just sent someone to the pick a part yard for the part, bagged and tagged the new old part as OEM new and called it a day, and charged new price HAHA!!!
Sounds like a transmission supplier whose 'out of the country' factories left sub-assemblies outside in rain and high humidity for a few months, then shipped the rusted assemblies back to the US factory as 'defective parts'. I understand the meeting blaming the US employees almost got out of hand, and the later meeting apologizing to them once the truth came out was...interesting.
Living in the salt belt you are used to rust. I also lived in a road salt area. And on top of that near the sea. Quite close to where the car transport ships came in. Along that section of coast. Right on the waterfront. Miles of compounds of new cars. At best lashed with salt spray. At worst in bad weather. Sitting in salt water. I would watch the trucks skull drag these new cars up onto the bed. Wheels frozen up or brakes locked on. Or both. Exhausts red rust. Bottom of the car red rust. And a few days later the proud new owner could be driving out of the dealer with a cosmetic time bomb. And we are talking thousands of cars like this. I bought one new car back in the early nineties. Within weeks things were showing rust. Sold it after 18 months for a song. Total rust bucket. Where I live now. I don't miss the rust.
I used to work with a guy who would always say "cross threads are better than no threads". This video makes me think more than one person has that same thought.
I saw where four bolts with nuts were cross threaded on a bridge column!! There were eight bolts on the one column end. Stopped the job and took all ten columns out and replaced all bolts and nuts!!! Engineer was appalled that happened!!! Nobody owned up to it , took a week to fix. He stopped the job for a month and inspected every tie on bridge
Or same lack of thought. Especially if they never had to fix their laziness.
Cross theading is better than lock tight 🤣🤣
Cross threaded or torqued to spec - tight is tight. 😂😂
I would kick him in nuts. Then yell "Crushed balls better than no balls!"
"i'm perfectly honest most of the time especially when I'm not telling a lie" subscribed
No worries on the missed welding opportunity - gotta take wins when you can get ‘em!
"Don't put it in sideways." That advice actually applies fairly universally....
BMW Engineer: "I wonder if we can make it so they have to put it in sideways..."
You're absolutely right. Bought cheap O2 sensors a while ago which died 6 months later. Got them replaced under warranty, the replacements lasted another 6 months. I then bought Denso, problem solved, money light never came back.
Life hack for never cross threading anything: spin the bolt backwards. The very first thread will make an audible click when it passes over the very first thread of it's female counterpart. Then reverse direction. Doesn't matter whether it's iron pipe, an O2 sensor, pvc, or whatever else. Anything male and female threaded, because it all works the same.
''They freak out when brake cleaner gets into catalytic convertor but will douse 14 cans of fuel treatment and 6 cans of SeaFoam''. I almost took that personally :D :D :D . Great video!
3:18 “And you know me, I’m perfectly honest, most of the time…especially when I’m not telling a lie.” 😜
I am endlessly impressed with your drive for best-possible outcomes. It's not about some predetermind process or policy, you're just trying to get the best outcome available in the circumstances. You're the rarest, and my favorite, kind of person.
he's ahead of some people. At least he has a catalytic converter!
Well at least the housing, who knows if it had the good bits inside.
"Comes with rust from the factory" !!! I LOL'led at that...
Definitely not a stupid video. It really helps to see what happens in a real shop.
Thanks to your advice I have done a couple things lately. First I purchased my own new catalytics from magnaflow and the O2 sensors were OEM purchase. 2nd, I found a new small town garage that will work with customer supplied parts. My old garage said they will not service vehicles that use parts supplied by the customer. My vehicle has almost 1/2 million miles on it and I HAVE to use a mixture of junk yard and other creative supplied parts to keep her going and I am NOT putting dorman parts on it period. I have learned a lot just from watching your videos, not always understanding everything going on but learning some lingo and knowing what to avoid is invaluable, thanks for the content!
And today you learned not to get your auto parts at Dollar General. 😂
I love this video. The cross-threading is world champion quality. Never seen anything that bad.
Keep looking, you'll find one or more. Great comment!
I agree about not using parts from the dollar general. However I have used plastic bottles from the beverage section in an Australian supermarket. The 1 litre orange juice bottle makes a good coolant recovery bottle for a 1969 Rover 2000. Drink the orange juice, give it a rinse out and you are good to go!
One thing I like about RockAuto, you can get the cheap stuff, or most times they offer the factory stuff as well, so you can take your pick and usually get a fairly decent price
as an avid consumer of Ding Dongs made by hostess, i will devour them for you eric o
"When I"m not lying, I'm honest. Honest." Famous words of a 5th grader.
It takes all kinds of effort to crossthread coarse threads, give that shop some credit, what they did is very very difficult.
I tend to cross thread every bolt I run across, course or fine thread.
Thanks for fixing this customers bunghole.
Dollar General as a part store- wouldn't surprise me if they take your thought and start selling auto parts. Make certain to get a commission! Thanks for another interesting video, Eric!
The used to sell engine oil that didn't have any additives in it and it blew some people's engines up. In the end the jury didn't think the "Not for vehicles 1930 or newer" on the back of the bottle was really a sufficient warning lol.
Great video. Your commentary keeps me coming back 😂😂😂. It’s been said that “quality pays not costs”. For this customer he had to pay twice. Great video from a true professional.
Thanks for taking the time and putting the parts all on that table for us easy to see. Very nice of you Mr. O.
Almost an honorable mention on Just Rolled In. 😆
Don't think you could make a bad video. Thank you.
Lots of good information in a nice short video. I prefer short as time is limited.
"Nothing tighter than a cross thread"
Saves on the loc-tite I guess LOL.
"And one time, at band camp, I cross-threaded my flute!"
@@markh.6687 Are you sure you didn't put it in the trombone the wrong way by accident?
You are the most honest ding dong I know.... aways find your content the best! Keep up the good work!
In some ways I feel I learn more from these videos than your detailed ones. It is hard to teach what not to do and what to look for. Great job!
I haven't watched it yet but I already like it.
Great job solving the thread problems.
Owning my own shop I see this stuff alot. What I love about your videos is your diag ability, which is like mine, and how you call people ding dongs. I used to call my employees other words but since watching enough of your videos I started calling them ding dongs. It's probably a good thing. Love your videos, keep it up Mr O .
The O2 sensor actually converts oxygen into hundreds of dollars
Looks like a DIY job in which parts were sourced from 1aauto. Non carb compliant cat 😉 They prob saved a small fortune (if they had + execution the first time). Bummer they can't screw a sensor in straight🙄
"Well, this videos kinda stupid......" 😆 🤣
"Don't be a ding dong" I think this is advice that we should all heed, the country would be a better place.
A friend of mine took her Subaru Forester to a body shop after a collision. When she got her SUV back, the left bolt holding the rear hatch was not only stripped, cross-threaded, and sticking out about a half inch... it was more sideways than a Japanese drift car! I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Sometimes, you wonder more HOW they manage to do these things at all, let alone how their standards can be so low.
Got a car back from the insurer-nominated coachworks after a not-my-fault collision with, along with a broken door speaker, scratched glass and lots of other issues, the passenger upper seat belt fixing bolt stripped. I was not at all happy...
LOVE IT!!!! Even a short video is better than none. Thanks!
I changed out all 4 oxygen sensors on the Marquis and bought a thread chaser just in case. At 450,000 miles they were pretty well used up. You would have been proud, Eric. They were OEM. Great video!
They should be good for another 450,000 miles. It's not a wagon is it?
What year/engine Marquis?
@@Paul1958R almost certainly a grand marquis which is a crown victoria
@@mikereilly5930 No. It is a 1996 Grand Marquis LS. I think the last year for the wagon was 1991. I have an aunt that owns one of those. (1991 Mercury Colony Park station wagon.) It's a very smooth riding car!
@@Paul1958R It is a 1996 Grand Marquis LS with the Handling and Performance package. It has twin exhausts good for 210 horsepower. It was a demonstrator and I bought it for about $3,000.00 off sticker. (Which was about $26,000 at that time.) It is no stormer, but it does get the job done.
Nice to see an honest mechanic fixing a dishonest hack mechanics work, video approved, click.
Caught the message Taking care of MOM at the moment. Thanks for the offer. (Shes 88 heading for 89)
Great video, brother. Well done and educational experience everytime!
No matter what Eric always a pleasure to watch what you do.
Another good video. Although you missed out on another welding lesson from the keyboard certified welders.
Amazing what’s out there. Another good fix. Thank you
Next time you have an issue, put the o2 sensor in the vice and turn the pipe. It comes out like butter.
It shouldn't get that bad, but, great idea!
Tip of the day. If your shop installs your O2 sensor with a 3/4" drive impact . . .
Love you videos and your personality ! Great techniques and how to run a honest shop
I loved it Eric; thanks for sharing!
You just got to love the new rusty manifold. It's surprising they don't put something on those to protect the metal like they do on brake rotors.
advice I always (try) to follow:
use the right spark plugs
use the right coils
use the right sensors
like you said, if you don't want to pay OEM prices, at least get OE. It's generally not hard to find out who the OE is/was.
And stacking could affect the stream geting to the sensor
wow love all the vids thank you for sharing and not dragging out time and showing only what really needs to be done. I have learned a lot watching your videos .... i grew up in the sixties where you could remove and replace a engine in a couple hours under a texas shade tree with friends helping and lots of beer " Haha."
My wife took her Toyota Highlander XLE V6 to the dealership where we purchased it for the same similar problem plus a few additional issues, it was a few months old and still under warranty and apparently because she's a women they didn't fix any of the problems. The so-called technician just cleared the codes. It was running even worse by the end of the day! I ended up filing complaints about the situation with my wife's Toyota service, which resulted in his firing. I still had to take the vehicle to another dealership that was over 100 miles away from our rural West Texas home! It was well worth the extra drive because the dealership was so much better and taking care of the customers! I'm a disabled veteran and haven't been able to wrench since 2001. It's such a hard thing not to be able to work on our vehicles as I once had!
The Other Shop must've figured that since O2 sensors are hard to get out they've gotta be hard to put in, too.
Nothing holds better than a cross-thread
Eric: "Use OEM parts when possible"
OEM Part: (rusts)
Really enjoy your videos! 😎
When I was young living in Michigan my dad used to buy his parts at a pharmacy. It was strange because you picked up your prescription and a starter or water pump at the same time
OEM is the way to go. Love the video. Keep em coming.
Another great Video. Learned a bunch.
Appreciate even this Eric. Thank you.
Is there any application where you use the copper anti-seize???... Thanks my guy... Oh, hey I thought you might like to hear about the cross-eyed teacher.... She could not control her pupils...LOL
Thank you for sharing and stay safe.
Thanks as always, Eric!
Eric! You sounded pretty feisty today! Good for You! ! ! ! ! !
I guess the economy is forcing a lot of handymen to try their hand at auto repair. Thank God there are real mechanics that can do the job right, every time, all the time. Do you know anybody like that? ;-D Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
There are more jobs than people. The problem is no one wants to work on cars because there are easier jobs available that pay more.
Salute Eric and Mrs. O .That split socket to accept that harness to tighten sensors is rightous.I always end most of the time using a monkey wrench with a length of hollow pipe over the handle for leverage to breaker the sensor loose
Great tip man! Appreciate you sharing.
Another reminder why I work on my own vehicles. Most shops are underpaid part machine gunners. They also cross thread everything. They must be marines.
The good thing was I was expecting that you would weld a new sensor bung to the pipe when you thought the threads were cheesed, the bad thing was I didn't get to see you do it. 😆
It will probably happen.... stay tuned.
I would of retreat it and use new sensors !!!...?.
Trusted, reliable quality. TRQ
Is our part around the south Tennessee.
J.R from Tennessee
I don’t always cross thread bolts, but when I do, I Rheem it home with a half inch impact gun 😂👍
I've been super lucky getting those sensors out by running the vehicle until its real hot and they are usually easy to remove as long as you don't have to reach around that hot exhaust.
So, you're saying no hot reach-arounds for you. Take notes, people! :)
I usually just take a wrench and untighten them because I live in Southern California and they're never rusted
I hit every single one with a torch first, but I also live in the armpit of the rust belt
@@markh.6687 awesome. Funny shit right there!
@Sam Holdsworth I was gonna say you're lucky, but then I remember california sucks 😂
Cornholio was hoping you'd do the new bung hole. Bungholio! 🤣
Wow! I could see one cross thread (no, really I can’t. There’s no excuse for a shop to be so sloppy), but TWO!
They most likely just used their air ratchet or air impact to run the new ones in. Too lazy to put it in by hand, and use a regular ratchet, or an end wrench if you can get to it.
02 Sensor instal socket is a special tool that supersedes to original design after you take paint off and polish to a given diameter to fit the application not to say it already has wire trough cut in it .
That sensor is worse leaning than the leaning tower of pizza. Glad they found y'all.
"Gee it dont want to thread in, Tennessee! .... Get s hammer and force it Chumley!"
1:42 --- TRQ -- TRQ Auto Parts' headquarters are located in Pepperell, Massachusetts. Their major production plants are located in Guangzhou and Shanghai, but they also have production facilities in India, Mexico, and the United States.
Cross thread is the poor man’s loctite
"The Other Shop™" must have a new o2 sensor attachment for his air ratchet 😂🤣
The customization of the 02 sensor socket hit home with me, after 20 years I have well over 40 variations. Some Frankensteined out of necessity, but I've used each and every one, sometimes for things other than 02 sensors, lol.
thread chasers are life savers wish i had more..
TRQ , stands for try and run quick , why do people try and do our job and do it crap , I will tell you why, coz they ain't got a clue , nice job Eric , another special tool made 🤣🤣💪💪💪👍👍👍
TRQ is online retailer of aftermarket parts, they also have a youtube channel
this guy must have fixed pirate ships in a past life.
I have a 65 mustang and can't find my o2 sensors.. I must be out of money cause the money light doesn't come on.. 😎
Have a 68 malibu and I can’t find the o2 sensor either !...😊
Wow! For a new manifold I would be pissed if I bought for my own vehicle and I got that sent to me.
I put non-OEM o2 and afr sensors in my Prius. Even though my OBD2 scanner showed they were responding, the fuel trims were way off and the car ran like crap and would eventually throw a check engine light. Someone on the prius forums suggested using OEM sensors which I didn't have money for at the time. I ended up getting some OEM sensors at the junkyard and they worked perfectly for the rest of the time I had the car. The non-OEM sensors work just well enough to make you think the part works, but you end up having to do the job twice :(.
I bought a truck that the engine had been replaced. Of course my luck, 5 months into this thing, the trans goes out. Long story short, two of the O2 sensors were cross threaded. I was able to chase them clean. By a shop. I don't know who installs Jasper engines. For some of us, OE parts are too expensive. "The Dollar Store" can be too expensive sometimes as well. Bailing wire sometimes is all you can afford, and that depends on if you know somebody has any bailing wire. Doing it right, is just not an option.
Did someone forget the copper antiseize ? down the road a few years someone is not going to be happy ( if) they ever have to replace them, oh sorry I didn't mention anyone's name,getter done, rock on ! If you can do it I could hurt myself, I just have to stay away from the BFH those tend to hurt, great videos keep um coming !
Very honest job 👏 👍 👌 🙌 😀
That certainly is an aftermarket cat assembly. Looks to be a Magnaflow. I've had nothing but issues with their O2 bungs being screwed up from the factory and major fitment issues. They belong on the return shelf next to Dorman.
I've used T R Q before and I've learned my lesson. Don't let the price fool you. Parts won't last
Brake cleaner evaporates it won't hurt nothing. LOL!!!!
Short. Sweet. I like it.