First Look Inside a Russian Turtle Tank Captured in Ukraine
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Finally we're able to see the details of one of these. This one is built on top of an old T-62 tank that is essentially just a troop carrier now. The barrel isn't able to traverse and there was no ammunition in the tank itself. The ERA blocks were empty, sheet metal on the sides offers limited protection but the focus seems to be countering drones. There were a handful of electronic countermeasures layered on top, however those didn't stop the Ukrainian drone from disabling the vehicle. Not clear why this type of modified troop carrier is needed. It offers less protection and less firepower than a traditional APC or IFV.
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Well having no ammunition helps its safety a bunch.
So the ammo won't blow inside the tank?
For as hilarious as it is to have a tank with no ammo or operational turret or guns, if they are being used as troop transports then maybe no ammo is better because russian equipment LOOOVVVEEESSSS cooking off.
@@tysawyer4502 it's not a troop transporter. Ukraine comes up with a PR stunt everyone ready to believe 😅
At this point they will be saffer in a seiko turtle!
The Blyatmobile
It's the armored version of meat shield. It draws fire away from real armored vehicles.
lol russia stronk 😂
I don't think so. They released footage of this incident, and there were a couple of T-90s nearby... it *seems* those got taken out first.
It’s more of a breaching vehicle rather then an actual tank
That's because those swedish tanks are just self contained turrets.
@@dfmrcv862Got a link because I watched the whole, extremely produced video on X and there was no T-90s and not even much in the way of showing the engagement of this vehicle....like l dd than a second.
“ Fixed Turret isn’t a tank “
The Swedes want to have a word with you
Lol true. But ar least the S tank could fire its gun
Well, those tanks can move around on a dime at insane speeds, but you are correct, it was their main battle tank and it was indeed very fixed.
There is a very slight diff., b/n the swedish vehicle and that technological marvel! The swedes somehow avoided attaching a moving turret, so that it could be disabled afterwards! Ask them, if unsure!
Fixed Turret is a Tank Destroyer, not a Tank .
Such an interesting vehicle that cheese wedge is. Did they ever export any that were used in combat? I really want to see one used in combat. Hell give em to Ukraine.
Russia bought ERA as cosmetic pack
The Blyatmobile
It's DLC cosmetic. The only downside or upgrade is that the gun turret is disable.
@@ABa-os6wm
New superhero: Blyatman
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the shed isn't to keep the drones out
its to keep the animals in
The "main draw back" of this design is this design.
Designed by a vodka addict with little engineering skills. Probably illiterate. russia definitely isn’t sending their “best or brightest”. Or maybe they are 😂😂😂
Except they worked.
@@mitchyoung93 Not true, it just makes it so ZSU have to use more drones..so instead of 2-3 drones it takes to disable a normal tank, turtle tank it might take 5-7+ drones to take out, especially since Ukraine has FPV drones with increasingly larger payloads
@@mitchyoung93 if this is the criteria they might as well used a bus.
@@mitchyoung93 worked how?
I'm really upset that no one except Perun is calling it an "assault shed"
Both russians and Ukrainians use sheds to describe these tanks
Now thats a cope cage
😂😂😂
More like cope shed.
They’ve been effective mineplows leading columns. If ukr goes on the offensive again they’ll do the same thing, just like with “cope cages”, I imagine people will point out that they’re for that and call it brilliant.
@@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk lmaoo no they havent at all
@@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk LOL, nothing you said is true.
The Russians have gone Star Wars - it's a Jawa sandcrawler!
“These aren’t the turtles you’re looking for…”
From what I can understand is that BMPs, BTRs, MTTBs, etc. that were used early on did not provide sufficient protection from land mines and the only thing Russia had with with thick enough floor armor are tanks thus they must have sent these relics to the frontline and put on this “shell” on top to protect the troops on top of the tank from small arms fire
Problem is that sheet metal armour won't stop a rifle bullet. You can see bullet holes in the metal. It offers little protection to the troops on top.
@@cmanlovespancakesYeah the thing is basically a coffin on tracks plus if there was ever an exhaust leak that would probably kill you anyways so I think I just take the chance and just walk at least then I would have some sort of situational awareness
@@supreme_shade this thing is not used as a troop transporter 🙄 have you not seen videos of these things leading the assault
I know Preston is biased, but here it's just parroting a propoganda, pR stunt of ukrains?
@@cmanlovespancakes it does obfuscate them though, so its better than nothing
I bet the main reason for that is to let soldiers think they have better protection and are more willing to do the missions these are used for.
I bet none of the sodiers using it know that the era are empty.
This is a psychological means to convice their own peopel that they ar enot going on a suicide mission.
My co-worker is an Iraq war vet. We were discussing drone jammers and EW/ECM systems and he said that the EW/ECM systems on their Humvees in Iraq gave everyone a splitting headaches. Now I can only imagine what the Russian systems are doing to their people.
Those were phone jammers I believe, not exactly the same
They have vodka giving them headaches, what is a bit more noise
Yea I heard the same stories. It doesn't make sense though since the frequency is outside our sensory range... But how those specific jammers work aren't public so who knows what causes the headaches
Maybe the tin on the turtle tank is met to protect the dismounts from the ECM emissions??
@@R-Lmaxangood point, it could act as some form of faraday cage
“Marvel of modern engineering” 😂
I instantly thought of the Marvel toy company 😂
Da Vinci could have built a better turtle tank that this jerry can on treads.
You can not call it jerry can as there are Russians inside not Germans.
I'd be ashamed to have this thing in Crossout.
@@MonkeyJedi99
Imagine this in a video game when you lose the starter tank as a minus-one level..... 😮
It is added protection from drones, no matter how silly it looks. It just makes it harder to get good hits with drones and the Ukrainians have been using more drones to stop them than the naked tanks, at least in all the footage I've seen so far. There are a couple of instances where the Ukrs have hit the box with a pretty big bb on a drone and then flown a couple of fpvs through the hole. Also, the drones jammers are working, just not well enough. If you watch the fpv footage, they're all losing signal as they approach the tanks but it's not affecting them far enough away from the tank to stop them all from hitting them any way.
Before jammers the FPVs lost signal too. That's just the ground clutter causing signal loss.
Signal is generally line of sight, with diffraction helping gain a little more range. But once you're close to the ground you lose signal.
You can tell it's not jamming when they dive, lose signal, bring the drone up to take another look and then dive again. The wavelength for the controls is still able to reach while the video feed can't. A jammer would lock the controls.
That pause around 2:30... it says "God is with us" and 88. I wonder what these "denazifiers" mean by 88?😅
Obviously someone's birthday year. Either that or they are real fans of WW2 german Flak guns (kinda sus in itself).
In online video games having HH or 88 in your name is liable to get you banned. Obviously not in the Russian armed forces.
if the engine is running and sitting still, wouldn’t the carbon monoxide put the crew to sleep?
The exhaust is low on the side, you can see the hot puff from it when the thermal camera of the recon drone follow the hitting drone hitting.
Pimp Your Ride: Blyatmobile Edition.
Marvin Heemeyer's bulldozer was more advanced than this, and he built his 20 years ago.
But didn't he have more than a year or 2 to design and build it? Also wouldn't any military munition have destroyed his killdozer but since the military was ordered not to attack in fear of collateral damage I guess we'll never really know.
And the killdozer was armored with 40mm of hardened armor plus concrete. Any modern missile or drone will absolutely take it out. Also, the killdozer was a bespoke 1 of 1 product. These tanks are being made in numbers.
If Russia did have a better option, wouldn’t they use it? This wreaks of desperation not innovation. Also when he said there is no radios in the tank, then showed the radio station I think he meant that there was no internal coms for the vehicles crew to guide the driver.
They have capacity limitation on how much bmps they can produce and revamp. My guess is they start up a bunch of t62. The better conditioned one with somewhat functional turret get send to revamp. Those with broken turret get put on a train and send to the frontline.
ECM likely jams the radio
I'd guess the main purpose was, repurpose.
They had a tank without a working gun, so they added a little extra defense to utilize it better as a troop transport, or equipment retrieval. That's just a guess.
If it's a troop transport, surely they'd have more space if they just took the turret off?
This reeks of desperation not innovation
@@CakeofWisdom
I guess it takes time to remove the turret.
But I do agree they can fit more people, at least partially in armor, without the turret and the ammunition storage.
At the minimum, they probably should remove the gun.
small arms definitely go through regular sheet metal 12:25
I always assumed they used these as drone proof assault guns but the disabled gun and empty magazine is wild.
I’m honestly surprised the Ukrainians haven’t captured more of them given their almost complete lack of situational awareness. Wild
I haven't thought of any other reason for Turtle tanks except that somewhat simple soldiers need to be lured to the front line somehow. The best way to do this is by convincing them that they have a safe, improved tank that is strongly protected against drone strikes. The cope cage is not intended to protect against drones but to prevent the crew from noticing threats that would make them turn back. It really lives up to its name, cope cage. It gives a false confidence that the crew has any chance of survival. In practice, such an outdated T62 tank might at best clear one anti-tank mine. The crew is sent on a one-way mission.
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I think the main purpose of it is to protect the main tank body from being hit directly by drones, obviously an fpv explodes on impact with a surface so the shell creates space between the tank and the explosion, maybe protecting key parts of the tank more effectively?
But yea definitely obsolete against most other weapons
Problem is this isn't a tank with an operational gun So basically a cheap infantry vehicle but with little protection to the troops riding on top..
It would work by preventing pinpointing weak spots.
Those air gaps would only minimally reduce penetration.
IMO it's psychological armor. It's probably hard to get troops to ride out under fire without protection, so russian commanders realized if they let the soldiers have a couple swigs of vodka & hide under a tin roof, they can pretend it's cover, which helps keep them from running away
@@nathansmith3608that’s a good point actually, that’s dark but could be it
02:40 "Gott mit uns" in ruzzian
the austrian painter would be so proud
That phrase is from pre ww2 and was from the Prussian military heritage. But the 88 symbol is much about the H man.
Also they're drinking water called Gordoct Natsii
It's mainly for mines and drones which makes sense as they are the main problem
Petition to rename this a "Pinocchio tank" - it wishes it were a real tank, and it has a pointy nose giving away the lie. Because seriously, Donatello would be insulted by this thing being called a Turtle Tank.
theyre actually effective.
@@AdamS-nd5hi actually no, short term and more of a surprise, but now a liability
@@AdamS-nd5hiYou spelled ineffective wrong.
Ukrainians were talking about one of those (I think this one) took several drones to take down and that's a decent win. They've essentially cheaply uparmored old vehicles to safely help troops
I prefer perun's name for them, assault barn.
"Hard to understand the purpose" - When you look at it from a western point of view, you are totally correct.
But this battefield is so different because both sides simply lack many capabilities.
We have btw. seen this tank style in videos from the russians and basically the swiss cheese style steel plates were visible even there - so no surprise there.
1.) "why no ammo in tank" - because this makes it actually survivable otherwise the turret pops off the new born angels
2.) I guess the russians actually intended those vehicles in the role we saw in the first instances, equiped with a mine roller as a leading/break-through tank, shielding the other vehicles behind it, and a ammo carrier waiting in the back - but the battlefield changed so that never happend.
But even here the drone hit the tank track, but still the smaller FPV drones equiped with RPG-7 hollow charges will have a very high failiure rate against this tank,
so this tank is a russian adaption to the battlefield - and if the battlefield hadn't changed - it might have played out. (I'm very glad it changed and did not play out)
3.) "Why not equip IFV and APC" - more detailed answer,
- Russia has wasted too many but tanks are getting towed out of taiga coldwar storage and their repair has the highest priority
- the armor is basically laughable and the ukrainians have with the Bradley a very very powerful hunter for these,
only a russian tank has a chance to survive an encounter with a Bradley, a BMP-1 or 2 will be turned into swiss cheese, not starting even with BTR there are some very intersting pictures where the armor basically looks like those steel plates
Btw. "seems strange" - we have a war where one side uses dirt bikes to mount attacks and gains ground by burning through soldier wearing down the ammo of the other side.
The odd thing is, if they really meant this as an infantry carrier, they kept a non-functional turret. Remove the turret and there's extra space under the cage AND the remaining vehicle weighs a lot less. There's precedent - some Canadian Rams were used without turrets as infantry carriers - called "Kangaroos" in Commonwealth service.
"modern problems require modern solutions"
Edit: thanks for reading the subtitles outloud. It helps
Thanks Preston, you seem to be the first TH-camr to realise some of us just listen to audio commentaries.. good job!
I love how the Russians wanna trash on the M113 despite everyone in the US already trashing it though they’re using actual sheet metal on a tank that offers no ballistic protection for troops
It’s not meant to protect from ballistic projectiles, it’s to protect from HEAT ammunition that the fuze would be triggered by the metal
It's meant for drones.
Often times that's the most common means of defending open ground, that's why you could see these tanks driving through, swarmed in drones, and still making it.
@@chaosinsurgency6636 they’re not using the tank for tank purposes so HEAT rounds won’t create that beautiful turret pop and will still devastate any troops in the vicinity of the impact.
@@Antiteshmis the tank is a troop transport and possibly makeshift arty though any troops on top will still be devastated by drop munitions.
@@Antiteshmis Basically a glorified shield to soak up Drone hits during an assault. I've seen one of two of these leading assaults on a few occasions.
a modern of marvel engineering indeed
A marvel of modern engineering indeed
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Truly the engineering of a modern marvel 👨🍳👌
The best possible explanation i've been able to come up with is that Russia is practically out of APCs.
With an estimated 10,000-14,000 APC losses they are down to the most barebones stuff... and they have more of the older useless T-55's and T-62's than they have BMP-1, BMP-2 and BMP-3 vehicles.
That is why Russia keeps getting more and more desperate to saber rattle and "offer peace terms".
Their military will literally be an infantry army if the war continues.
"This belongs in a museum!" - Jones, Indiana
Wow modernized version of Leonardo DaVincis design from the Medicis Florence Italy
We got a turtle tank boyz!! Aka “Assault shed”
0811 (field artillery) USMC guy here: Yes the armor may have been thin, but i remember "feeling" safe in my 7-ton with the armored troop bay. It may not ACTUALLY be safe but its the thought of having steel between you and...well anything...that helps in the psychological aspect of it. It made climbing in the back of these massive motor transport vehicles a bit more palpable. i get it to an extent.
Even older tanks can be used as stationary rear guard, so the fact that it's a 1960's tanks doesn't mean it's not useful. What it might mean, in an optimistic perspective, is that either Russia can't really supply ammunition to all its tanks, or it can't maintain all of them enough to be able to fire. Thus, it makes more sense to them to deploy them as troop transports.
It's not a troop transport engine but a breaching engine. It opens the field for other units following it. Or is used for mine clearance.
There are a lot of videos on Twitter showing the use of the turtle tank.
The Russians are just using old tanks. From Saving. So as not to lose new ones and not waste money on recycling old ones.
a In battle. Where there are no tank duels for a long time.
Either T-60 or Abrams. They are equally undermined by drones and missiles.
@@gentleman2.061 that makes far less sense than using it as a troop transport
@@alimanski7941 I understand you haven't seen any video of the usage of these tanks. Using this as a troop transporter is just pure propoganda to shit on Russia. How does troop transporting makes sense? 🤦
@@dr.mortem6050 There was footage of a tank being hit and like 20 people start running. Looked like baby spiders running off their momma spider's back.
It kinda smells to me like mechanics desperate attempts to replace APC losses maybe?
They’re mine plows to lead columns.
its breakthrough vehicle that leads convoys with stormtroppers with high casualties no matter the vehicle or numbers used. this one was probably used just as transport, but 90% of other turtle tanks are used offensively just like in krasnohorivka where these vehicles enabled to enter outskirts and land infantry in industrial area.
@@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fkyup, pretty much disposable, just like the troops
Y’all know nothing about the war.😂
@@paulthiessen6444 They have additional protections because they’re disposable? That doesn’t make sense.
I’m sure you know what happens when the lead vehicle in a column is lost in the middle of a minefield.
These things eat mines and drones. I’ve seen several taking 5-6 drones and proceeding on.
They probably took an old broken T62 from the storage and it was easier to do that than restoring it. We saw a lot of T62 being transported to Ukraine. Maybe they don't have parts or the time to refurbish them and think thats better than the Chinese golf carts or Bukhankas.
Yes, likely what happened, but what's the point ?
-I the barn is to protect the tank, but the tank can't shoot, no point in sending it into battle.
-If it is to be used as APC, but the armor is too thin to stop anything, it takes the 'A' out of APC.
@@viandengalacticspaceyards5135 Well, most tanks and crews die by mines or FPV drones. A tank between you and the mine offers more protection than a car. And the EW was supposed to protect them from drones. They can't put heavy armor on it due to costs. The thin armor probably was made by the crew to offers protection from rain, thermal cameras at night or just so they can sotre equipment there. Maybe they also lived in it. Just my theories.
i think its emotional support armor, makes the crew feel safe
I think the main reason to deploy the tank this way is that it offers some protection from mines, while being pretty inexpensive to bring out of storage and modify for drone defense.
Well it doesn't take too much thinking to understand that any tank offers some mine protection. Maybe you missed the part with the drones taking it out. I believe this whole tank is placebo moral for Russian troops believing they are safely being transported to the meat grinder.
@@apocalyption5490 turtle tank was literally made to protect against drones. there is a video where more than 40 ukrainian FPV drones were needed to destroy 1 turtle tank. thats a vast improvement compared to whats usually 1-2 drones gonna do
If they're using old tanks with massive cope cages as infantry carriers, that suggests to me they're running out of MT-LBs for the infantry cartier role.
Even Ukrainian still haven't completly run out of mtlb. It is likely simply the case of whatever the factory can pump out.
The plant that restore mtlb is not the same as the plant that restore t62. The order from the top is at the end of the weeks, send whatever you got to the front.
Could of just happened on that section of the front, there’s half a million Russian troops in the front line, not everyone is going to have the newest nicest stuff
This also could have been done t-62 that was laying around and the soldiers just made this thing playing around, it’s probably not even in inventory
What surprises me is that the turtle tanks haven’t been abandoned due to fuel scarcity, these old tanks with this much extra weight must be a gas guzzler
What they should have built it so it looks like a little house
‘The Little House On The Steppee’ 😁
I like how "G-d is with us" is spraypainted on the side. They knew even prayers are better protection than sheetmetal.
It's not a good luck charm, it's just Russia's centuries old military war cry.
@@soveriegnreborn5847 Russia has been sucking at warfare for centuries.
+ the 88, short-hand for you know who
why does your God have a dash in the middle?
@@LebSonic I did not want to take the Lord's name in vain
2:40 is written "God with us".... they always think that they got blessed by killing...
a certain side had that inscribed on their belt buckles in ww2.
With the " 88 " spray painted as well, not even trying to hide their ideology
Modern day Russia is practically a death cult.
@@asmo1313 A lot of people went to battle with that catchphrase. It is (or was) a christian continent.
A lot of people went to battle saying that and a lot of people were wrong.
Love thy neighbour bro. It doesn't seem that hard.
Its the christian "allahu akhbar" 😉
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The only part of this design that actually protects the crew is the fact that they replaced the active ERA with fake cardboard ERA
Ok, I thought this was supposed to also Protect from Cluster Munitions. But DIPCM will go right thru
Basically a cheap assault vehicle to try to breach ukranian defenses and trenches while giving the troops riding on top the feeling of being protected when in fact they are basically as exposed as if there was no sheet metal covering it. May gave them some protection from the elements.
They are concealed at least. That's something. . .technically.
the troops are in 2 vehicles behind
@@maxmagnus777if you watch the video they were riding on the tank when they were captured. Maybe they have troops in other vehicles behind too but it seems this vehicle was by itself.
How did you miss the enitre point of this vehicle, sometimes i wonder if its peoples first day of following this war
@@kuunoooo7293watch the video next time. 😂
Thanks for the inside look, it's about what I expected from these beauties
regular soviet/russian troop carrier dont have enough spare power to provide the juice for the ECM systems
😂
That's an interesting idea
Could be, indeed.
EW sucks a lot.
One thing to wonder is how many Ampére can be squeezed thru Stalin-era telephone wires.
Those cables would melt.
You don’t understand why they would do that? Well, the answer is quite simple- there aren’t enough BMPs and BTRs to go around. They have used MTLBs for a while, and now it seems they’ve run out of them as well in the storages. In my hometown Ulan-Ude, in eastern Siberia, we had a conservation base full of the old Soviet tanks but there weren’t any BMPs or BTRs because they hadn’t been produced at the same scale.
careful brother the FSB might come down on you for making a comment like that
They could at least remove the turret or something, basically turn them into WW2 era kangaroo vehicles. Right now the turret is just wasted space and dead weight.
Bingo! This dude keeps giving Russia credit, but you are correct Russia is pushing this trash out on the battlefield because most of the good stuff has been destroyed in the last two years.
What this failed to realize we would do the same if our enemy is able to bring us to our knees, yes you would see us bringing out the old equipment especially if our industrial base was destroyed.
@@louieknowles3481 I left Russia long time ago
@@dejectedfrogcat2840 I imagine it would be difficult for a field repair company to remove it, and all the tank factories in Omsk and Nizhny Tagil are overwhelmed right now.
9:10 its a tank the engine itself, makes it impossible to sneak up anywhere itself not including the tracks clanking sroundu
IF they are being truthful, testing new measures for drones makes sense, cobble it together, there is a purpose, not sure what purpose.
Yea, anyone not testing countermeasures for this is quite frankly stupid.
Every problem has a solution, but that goes both ways.
Why would Russia use their best troop transport when the tanks are no longer needed. Ukraine doesn't have tanks
It's a purpose to win, which the west doesn't have cause they know Ukraine is objectively russia
@@nonameinsouthafrica3315 your cope is painful at this point
_"turtle"_ tank is kind of a misnomer. A turtle's shell is actually extremely effective at shielding itself from predators.
@ragnarocking And these DIY jobs were extremely effective in the last couple of months. After all the Russians advanced in the directions they were being used.
@@mitchyoung93 they haven't made any substantial break throughs in years. The incremental gains have been through solid artillery, air strike and meat wave attacks.... The gains have only been small (compared to the size of Ukraine) and are in several areas - these stupid things only appeared in a few and are gimmicky as f.... No way have they made a substantial difference to anything. That sheet metal would not even block a round from an AK - think of the m113 in Vietnam - AK rounds at close range could penetrate that armor.
@@mitchyoung93 it took US and allies to completely cover Iraq and Afghanistan within 1 year. Russia is in it's 2.5 year and counting while not taking over Ukraine.
@@mitchyoung93 you mean when Ukraine had few artillery left, AA and basically fighting Russia with spit-wads as the latter cowardly launched attacks from behind the Russian border? 3rd world army
@@ragnarockingthe fact it took 2.5 years to untie Ukrainian hands a little on the issue of russian territory strikes is even more embarrasing to me.
That monstrosity would not have survived WWI.
yep they survive in Ukraine in 2024 -how weird lol
@@eblevinda Not for very long. That was his point you genius.
@@apocalyption5490 they've been all over the front a for a while, most go in drive about do stuff and leave, it's survival rate is quite high considering that they most do mine clearing etc lol - no need to get angry haha
@@eblevinda You must have some type of psychic power to see through my phone screen and tell I'm sooo angry lol. Doesn't seem like Russian armor is doing to well if they have to field stuff from 1962.
@@apocalyption5490 its doing exactly what they want it to, old tech to clear mines, why wouldn't they lol not as if Ukrainians are advancing anywhere, no need to even use new tanks/current tanks etc, I have no skin in this game couldn't careless for either side, thinking about it your original statement was quite correct, in WW1 this tank wouldn't last, the Ukrainians are just struggling with them for now.
I assume the extra headspace is just for stashing their fishing poles and picnic supplies.
So, the turtle wouldn't even be capable of performing uber duty in Cali or Illinois.
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Great content as always. This is a kamikaze breach & infantry transport system. No visibility only straight forward is a feature. Saving lives is not a priority in russsian mentality. It is going forward, demining and transporting infantry. As a matter of fact, it protects the crew better than the original tank, since a turret toss is not happening after the first attack. Also they arr covered, they might have a better experience compared to be “naked” undder the buzzing of the FPV drones. It is not that stupid as some think, I heard that ukranians use 6-8 FPV to destroy, more than they use for a naked tank. Obviously the quality and tech they put in is a joke. But this russian army is using 1000-1500 soldiers every single day!!!
That’s suboptimal
A rather correct assessment of the situation at hand.
Copium seems to be this wars drug of choice. The turtle tanks have the power of God and anime on their side. Pure hope and dreams as armor. Very large very expensive stick in front. A femur from a soviet soldier 60 years ago in the hull. Beautiful
1)Making a Tank/APC take how long?
2)Refix/ a Old Tank/APC take how long?
3) War is not Cheap.
Well Russia is producing around 20 new tanks a month. To put that into context, thats less than Germanys Tiger tank production in WW2. And Russia is refurbishing (from war stocks) about 50 tanks a month. So you get 5 refurbished tanks for every 2 new tanks.
The refurbished tanks keep their old guns and armour. Get a better sight and new engines.
Thanks for the turtle tank talk! You added so much more information and comments than just the narrator did. It will be interesting to hear what the captured soldiers that had to use this clunker have to say about their mighty army.
"without reactive armor" is actually pointing at ERA and "had a whole suite of EW systems on top, we've removed them for study", must've done that right before they even captured it with no EW system being present on the roof during the video of them capturing it.
the tank was probably in too bad condition to be refurbished, so they made a mad max personnel carrier out of it instead
Blyatmobile! XD
Thanks for the update, keep safe.
The "Gott mit uns" inscription on the "armor" at 3:00 is so ironic
Turtle Turtle!
24 seconds bro love your good work brother ❤
Preston, I think they meant by "no radio" was that there was no intercom to the driver. (probably not repaired when pulled from storage)
They may have been using handcoms, but the only on-board coms were the new antenna/set for the commander.
Wow, imagine you get driven around in a huge slow metal target with no way to see what's around the dop and barely any armour. Sewerslide vehicle
Tracked garden shed 😂
Interesting graffitti on that tank at 2:36. The Russians have written "Got with us", which is a translation from the German "Gott mit uns", a Wermacht slogan. And the "88" symbol is widely used by neo-nazis it refers to the eighth letter of the alphabet H used twice - so HH or Heil Hitler. This tank may have belonged to the Rusich Group, which is an openly Nazi Russian militia.
Yeah saw that. The Hitler particles are at a high concentration on this unit.
funny that you say that; "Gott mit uns" predates the Wehrmacht and, as far as I know, the nazis weren't that on board with christian traditions either. So when you are saying that a neo-nazi group combines both, it is quite funny.
ironic how they send those guys when they're officially in ukraine to "rid it from neo-nazism" lmao
Russian doll mentality strip back the layers and you find a toy tank.
@Preston Stewart Russians installed it on a tank to make it more survivable against rocket launchers. The spaced armor causes premature detonation of an rocket. Some blast will make it through. A tank's armor is thick enough to withstand that blast while an armored carrier does not.
Did they run out of BTRs, MTLBs and BMPs
Not sure about BMP and MTLB but they are definitely short on BTRs
The Abrams tank, the american wonder, did not do well in ukraine?
This T-62 tank is from a town display so it has been de-milled and it was reactivated as troop transport.
There have been video's of them being able to shoot. Still with a locked turret it csnt hit much but as suppressive fire could work. Basically a modern day tutel
Great topic. You have my full attention.
This is obviously not a representative of the battlefield turtle tanks. There's already videos of the turtle tanks attacking, firing with great effect, and withstanding fpv drone hits, as well as videos inside the tanks where they're using cameras to navigate.
Reading was a good touch, can listen while tabbed out.
The Swedish PBV 301 which was something in between an IFV and APC was built on old Strv m/41 Chassis and was a stopgap until PBV302 was finished.
You could say this is a very crude version of the same idea.
Another reason why the rather use old MBT's over IFV's or APC'S is that many russian Transports are filled with fueltanks known to not be able to handle hits and the risk of the passengers to be barbecued is high.
Especially in the BMP and BMD.
This is exactly what everyone with a handfull of braincells was saying since months ago that russia is runing short on IFVs
Nah, this kind of tanks usually have just a driver. They probably use them to test updates to electronic warfare systems in real life scenarios.
It's less of a death trap than a regular tank is. It offers superior heat protection and drone protection, especially with the EW equipment it has fitted under the cage. People behave like it's the first time they laughed at Russian "inventions" till their own armies started copying the same. Just because it looks silly does not mean it doesn't serve a purpose in their current environments.
Lol😂. It was taken out by cheap drones.
@@cmanlovespancakes Drones took out just about every tank that stepped foot in Ukraine, just because it's better at something, does not mean it's impenetrable. Fact of the matter is, if you even looked at most of the videos with these in action, they can take a whole lot of beating before they go down. And there were also multiple variants, later iterations offering better protection against drones themselves.
Nobody is “coping” this, and no it doesn’t offer “supper protection” there’s multiple videos that prove that notion completely false(if the giant hole and multiple shrapnel entry holes from a $500 drone wasn’t evidence enough). It’s a placebo to make troops feel safer, and a response to Ukrainians destroying their infantry carrying vehicles faster then expected. No one is coping putting a sheet metal barn over a Vietnam era tank💀
They laughed at this cages and now everyone puts it on their tanks , mighty Abrams with a cope cage omg . 😅
@@5co756 It's ridiculous because all of these armchair generals think they know everything and end up comparing Gulf wars and Afghanistan to damn peer to peer warfare on a scale not seen since WW2. None of those rules and tactics apply. They definitely tried to apply them, especially during the "greatest counter offensive in human history" (or so i was lead do believe by all the propaganda), that ended after a couple of villages were liberated with catastrophic results.
Thanks for narrating it allowed us to watch this beautiful piece of equipment
Maybe they don't have enough troop carriers,
1 min ago? Hot off the press with Preston.
“Russia has unlimited resources, the losses aren’t affecting them whatsoever”
Also Russians: No ammo, empty ERA, using tanks with welded sheet metal as troops transports, motorcycles and Chinese ATVs for frontline attacks etc. etc.
Is Russia running out of tanks any day now? No. Is the attrition really getting to them? Absolutely, obviously.
Since it's meant to ferry soldiers, the ERAs were probably removed so when shooting starts, they won't detonate and kill the passengers riding on top.
@@dejectedfrogcat2840 could be, but as it's a 1960's tank, the ERA my guess is that it was probably removed back when it was put into storage and never replaced when returned to active duty... Just guessing, but if the ERA went off, it'd hurt/kill the mounted infantry - but so would getting hit by the incoming AT missile. I also doubt they put that much thought into it, seeming they are using sheet metal and scraps.
How do I put this, its war, some battle results or what they use are not to be used as facts to say the conditions of one army, in fact, the more freedom of creativity means they have more space and time, than their opponents.
If the 2nd biggest manufacturer that supported over 30+ countries that even won against US if they support them, how on earth can you actually believe they have no ammunition? One hit at a nearby logistic route, the brigade in front ran out of ammunition, now all of them have no ammunition? And yet the FABs numbers increased, the hypersonic not only used, but also given to ships.
About the older models, they were used from day 1 of the special operation, may I ask, why on earth you, and I mean you, want to keep the older relics collecting rust in storage instead of using them? It's a waste of space, management and if the newer models were destroyed, then what the heck makes you think the older models would change anything? But instead, we got the "lol Russians are out of tanks". One guy in anothe video commented it was based on satellite images, and I was like wow, so those kept in open somehow ended up representing their tanks?
I find it so weird, that, the main media has been proven full of shit, literally how can you believe the main media after all this time? It means you are a Biden supporter and Israel supporter too. That's the main media sides.
@@ajstyles5704 What did you just say? I read it twice, and I still have no idea what your point was... Nor how it related to the OP - who said Russians are suffering from attrition, but not running out of tanks... But you don't use old pieces of junk as front line armor because it gets blown up really easily - an original T60 could not compete vs a Bradley, let alone modern tanks - wasting man power and logistics. You'd only use relic pieces like this when you've ran out of the good stuff, or, your unit never got any in the first place and an old T60 is better than nothing.
@@miiiiiiiiiiick what? You think its a game where you just sent them to die? How many footages we have seen them surviving and retreating, leaving those garbages behind? They used it since day 1, there are no debating this. Majority of T72s were at the front lines, and lower models were spread out, so we know they didn't use T90s as their main battle tanks. Yes they can't, they are garbage unfit for frontline, but they weren't fighting Bradley's or Abrams or Leopards in the beginning were they? For the love of God, use the time line and events that occurred in the war. Not the statistics of each unit, the Russians don't operate as we think. Heck just some stingers and terrorists cells made them abandon Afghanistan altogether. Are the stingers working now? Their SU25 still flying. So even the stats we have are garbage, sorry but the all mighty Javelins didn't hit most of their targets but they worked wonders in Iraq, what we have, are old stats. Did the Bradley's got destroyed by the T60s? No, but the one supporting behind the T60s did, they are still armored vehicles capable of providing cover than running in naked.
Thanks for covering this!
50 years old tank in service. It’s a good way to draw enemy fire then send in the new tanks. The modern ammo is not comparable with the firing mechanism. It’s mostly used to probe enemy positions and level of defense.
Looks like those russian shovels didn't save it
So, basically this tank was a bluff. I’m curious if this actually helped them or hurt them more during it’s use
Not necessarily. You don't know what tank is under it unless you capture it.
Doubtful they captured the worst version and many other have better tanks. Why would Russia throw away better tanks by fixing their turret in place? Makes zero sense.
@@user-ds7ll2rt3lmight as well at this point.
@@emilpopovic9742This is false motivation for Russian troops. Makes them feel like they have great protection, and make some complain less when they're shuttled off to the meat grinder. Other than that this ghetto contraption serves little purpose.
Nah, from what video's show there are a lot of turtles. This one seems to be the worst yet and turned into a improvised troop carrier than tank. Other turtles like the ones in the Chasiv Yar area seems to be able to shoot and do everything else. Along with having better "turtle armor" and ECM. I wouldn't take one poor example and put it on all the others.
Dude, they are running out of BMPs before they run out of tanks. Damn!
To have a 1960s tank in good working condition is really impressive actually.