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Strictly speaking, Japan can't send lethal aid to Ukraine as it is forbidden by their constitution. But they could donate a couple of thousand jet ski engines and parts from Kawasaki. Whatever Kyiv does with that stuff is their business.
Nah that’s still backing. If the Iranians give anything to anybody they are Iranian backed if the US gives anything to anyone they are US backed Sadly that’s just the steaks now and how people see it
Pretty sure Japan amended that part of their constitution.
There is a video on this channel addressing the re-armament of Japan.
was also forbidden in Germany but they changes their constitution
Red-lines, are self-imposed restrictions, not respected by any advacery...🤑
"That's now projecting Russian power against... some crabs... at the bottom of the Black Sea." Whoever writes the script for these videos is a bloody genius.
Crabs unlike RU have actually succeeded in some invasions in the last Five years I'll be it underwater crab invasions but still....
My money's on crabs winning the black sea show down 🦀🦀
😂😂
Honestly I can see a hoard of coconut crabs overtaking an entire Russian ship.
Crab Rave
Crab people craaaab people 🦀
Taiwan better be taking notes
Taiwan is taking notes......
Taiwan will be forgotten about once the new labs and factories are built in Europe to build the super conductors
Agreed
@craigboden9455 i know that. That's why everyone is building factories to negate their reliance on the Island Nation. im stating that Taiwan better be taking notes. Please read more carefully next time
@@craigboden9455that has nothing to do with this comment
"A satellite controlled wolfpack of Sea Babies..." is truly the most phenomenal thing I've heard Simon utter.
@ElvenJusticeyou sound extremely provincial. As a native English speaker in California I can easily understand everything he says.
@@darrellcox3986 Hell, I`m a pureblood Alabama redneck and I understand every word. 😂
P@ElvenJustice
'A Sky Baby ate my satellite!'
Idk, "He's also good at driving plane steering wheel" has got to be up there as well
America: "We have started the development of an unmanned sea vessel. After prototyping, development, extensive sea trials, a number of revisions, we expect it to be in service as early as 2100"
Ukraine: "Strap some C4 to a spicy canoe and control it with an RC car remote"
These small crafts are only good in small waters. No good in Atlantic or Pacific oceans where there's thousands of miles that North America has to protect. You build them.
Ukraine: hold my beer
You probably don't know that it's not just RC car remote, do you know the range of RC car remote ? 10km max. They use USA Starlink communications, USA spy satellites/drones to find targets and guide the drone towards the target.
It's not C4 too, just old soviet bombs.
All the technologies are built by USA or UK, only part about these drones that is Ukrainian that they are assembled and launched from Ukraine.
Who says we are still going to be here for another 75 years? I wouldn't bet on it!
@@Graybear78 even 5 years is iffy
The ingenuity of the Ukrainians never ceases to amaze.
It's one of those " why didn't we think of this before?" ideas that is gonna change the world forever.
It’s one of those “as teens we were all thinking this, and now the generals and politicians are finally letting us do it” moments.
it is almost like we didn't have the tech for this before and now we do
@@greenwave819It is surprising to me that flying drones emerged and matured FAR earlier than surface maritime drones.
@@737smartinRemote controlled surface marine drones are over 100 years old by now. Google the FL-boats of WW1. Same concept, less advanced design.
As to aerial drones … it depends, is a device that runs a preprogrammed course (like a torpedo) a drone? Or do we require remote control? In that case, the Siemens torpedo glider would be one, to be launched from an airship and steered to a good torpedo launch position, upon which the wings were to be cut and a normal torpedo attack would commence, like it would from a torpedo plane.
Of course there were the grandfathers of WWII’s buzz bomb - a small plane with no pilot, a cheap engine, launched from rails and gyro-steered, detaching the wings after a preset number of prop rotations, the payload exploding on the ground.
But we can go further back to the 2-stage rocket weapon “fire dragon out of water” from the 14th century, if we do not demand live control.
@@advorak8529 Regular RC vehicles/drones are a completely different type from the drones that use satellite communication like those Ukrainian ones. Sending/receiving all the data like video by a direct RC connection is basically impossible over even just a few km without a massively high antenna. Satellite dishes can beam upwards directly to a stationary satellite, because it's high up in the sky. Those high frequencies that allow the required higher data speeds need to be in direct field of view, so that makes directly controlling a boat impossible. Data uplinked/downlinked to and from a satellite is a requirement.
That's what sets these so far apart from its primitive predecessors.
I do think we will see a lot of political tension surrounding satellites in the near future because of that, maybe even resulting in space warfare, as in, satellites getting shot down.
There's already a lot of political tension about the responsibilities regarding space debris and certain countries aspiring going to the moon in order to claim parts of it (ignoring the outer space treaty of '67 that prohibits taking ownership of the moon).
With any technological problem we solve we also create another one...
Kindly reminder that most of the russian black sea fleet ships were made in shipyards in ukraine, ukraine was part of the think tank of the russian navy and now they are using their knowledge to create ingenious inventions like these that is putting in check the russian black sea fleet
They were very smart, back when they built the Aircraft Carrier, too make sure it was the most useless Aircraft Carrier, they could ever build for Russia. They knew some day, it would be used against them.
Ukraine was smart to build Russia the most useless Aircraft Carrier, because they knew one day, it was going to be used against them.
Kindly remember that most of the black sea fleet was built in a Russian shipyard in what became Ukraine. Ukraine got the shipyards in the divorce.
@@Bpg5012trick I'm not so sure about that. The Chinese bought its sister ship from Russia after the Soviet Union collapsed and, while it's no USS Eisenhower, it doesn't have nearly as many problems as the Russian version does.
@@Matt-yg8ub wrong by then it was the Soviet union, even if not independent it was made by the Ukrainian socialist republic and even after the republic gained it's independency they still made and retrofitted ships contracted by russia
1:15 - Chapter 1 - The tech
11:40 - Chapter 2 - The effect
19:20 - Chapter 3 - An emerging industry
29:00 - Chapter 4 - Global implications
Far far more succinct - thank you
Torpedo boats vs 1890s battleships: "First time?"
Really not the first time. Ask the USS Housatonic about it meeting the Hunley in 1864.
@@advorak8529 Good point
the next step would be to use sea drone as carrier for air drones, ferry them across the sea, launch the air drone with their full fuel range still intact, real range extender
Rumors are already saying that they're using large drones as helicarriers for smaller attack FPV drones, so it's only a matter of time before the world's cutest aircraft carrier starts blowing stuff up in a Russian port.
Yes & the sea drone acts as a comms repeater station for the aerial drones.
Retractable hatches covering the cargo bay… sci-fi stuff.
Whether Ukraine wins this war or not they would have put a fight worthy of thousand years of history books
Indeed. They are a strong people, remaining adamant in their resistance to being absorbed by a greedy military superpower who becomes less and less powerful by the day as their Cold War and WW2 stockpile of toys is bled dry💙💛
mate a thousand years from now, military historians around the world will still be laughing at how a "superpower" lost their flag ship in a land war they started against a country that doesn't even have a navy.
Ukraine will win. Slava Ukraini! Heroyim Slava! (Phonetic spelling→) Idina hoyza lupa, orks!
you are massively optimistic about the future longevity of human society
@@likemostthings this is a lot of cope dude
Taiwan and the Philippines need many of these.
True.
In Coastal defence Applications they shown they are good it's unknown how they do in more open water.
Definitely would make things miserable for China. China must of been feeling smug about their artificial bases constructed in the South China Sea. However with the advent of sea drones, now with anti air missiles, must be giving China heartburn.
PS - if China actually forces Philippines and other countries to concede the SCS, it will be an empty victory. Imagine China install a billion dollar natural gas project and having some students taking a potshot or two. Any hit could potentially put any investment out of commission.
@@thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307 but coastal defense is exactly what Taiwan needs. I think those drones would perfect to stop Chinese landing attempts on the island.
I have lived and worked in both countries and understand very well their culture and fierce love for their country and independence. You can bet your house they will already be well onto this.
simon and team awesome video!!!! so cool to see ukrainian resolve, clever thinking, willpower and ingenuity. it’s a yes for me on that potential video about combating drone technology you mentioned please!! the people need it
I saw a video here on TH-cam of a young woman who was a jeweler who makes and sells jewelry to buy drone parts, then assembles the drones and donates them to her brother's and father's military units in Ukraine. She's not only not getting paid for her drones, she's using her own profits. Even if Russia were to change gears, I don't think Russia could get their citizens to donate that much effort to invading Ukraine. The defenders have the advantage right now, because they are willing to do whatever it takes to win, while the attackers are generally people who don't want to be there and are told they're going to die before they ever set foot on the battlefield, told they're going to die by their own commanders.
Thank you for creating and sharing this informative video. Great job. Keep it up.
Slava Ukraini
If a boat has a rear-wing then you know shits getting serious
I read that as soon as I saw and was like....o yeah lol
Sharks in the water.
The wing in the back is a rooster tail damper👊🏻
Looks like a giant satellite antenna
These videos are great, and this is one that gives lots of details. However, I did see one detail that was missed. On the original drone, there are three angled fins that run across the top of the vessel. These fins serve a specific purpose. They are needed because of the high speed of the vessel and the large payload located forward of the center. If rough seas are encountered, they prevent the vessel from being forced under the water and becoming a submarine. If the vessel encounters a large wave, the water pushes against the angled fins. This force causes the bow of the vessel to rise out of the water rapidly.
Warographics has more consistency and production value than anyone else on the genre imho
Including cnn
I prefer Perun's Power Points.
Covert Cabal is another highly professional channel i can only recommend.
@@marcbeebee6969 that's no wonder, given they employ roughly 3 veterans across all their news rooms. Not much in-house expertise
There are others are better for more in depth information. Yet the format or lack of editing is terrible.
Simons channels are excellent at getting the main details in a packed video.
One thing I wish Simon would do on all his channels is go out, and get behind the scenes videos. Especially on Mega Projects.
Yet then the ruse of him actually not being a single person locked in a European basement turning out videos, and talking to himself would be up. Danny and Simon are the same.
Very thorough coverage of the Sea Drone topic. Thankyou for such a quality reference grade video.
10:30 I know he meant a 30 kilogram payload, but I cracked up at the idea of a tiny sea drone delivering a 30,000 meter long sandwich to hungry troops.
Omg by the time this war over Sea warfare will never be the same again
War always advances always but not in this case. These are just land launched torpedoes that are easier to spot and cheaper.
@therasco400 Russian ships "spot" the drones when the Russian ships blow up and sink. Nothing to see here.
Just think for a minute what would happen if a country with a budget like Amarica started building this things
It already is; I doubt any Navy in the world is going to be safe as the 21st century moves forward, any more than aircraft appear to be. The reason the Russians haven't obtained air superiority is surely bc they have no confidence their aircraft would be able to dodge the missiles fired at them if they spend too much time in Ukrainian airspace. Its a truth that sadly Ukraine is going to test at some point this year too.
@@madmachanicest9955and vice versa.
Drones are cheap and can take down billions-worth carriers.
This make them a worthy invest for a lot of countries to counter the us for ex...
Will be interesting to see the counter measures that will be dev, otherwise we might see the end of the navy era.
Sea Babies…
Maguras…
Angry Jet Skis
Sea Drones….
Words I never thought I would utter in 2022.
Oh yes the good old angry jet ski.
@@vitmartobby5644 right, and in 2022 they didn't think they would be saying them now
Excuse me, but you left out the crabs . . .
Suicide boats?
Great video. Just shows you don't have to be the biggest navy to own the waters. Slava Ukraini
Bro. This just shows you don't even have to have a Navy to own the waters lol. Screw being the biggest Navy lol, Ukraine, at the moment, does not have a Navy. And they really don't need one.
Taking down fleets is not owning the waters.
It s just levelling the field.
Like how AA missiles don t replace air fighters and bombers.
Tack!
As bad as war is. The innovation it brings forth is priceless
You don't need the war to get the progress....... just the threat of war.
"Special military operation" is Russian for "Vietnam".
That "police action".
These two wars are so vastly different to even compare and by far the Ru vs Ukr war is far more parody and costly for Russia.
Or at least it will be in the future. I doubt any Russian Tsar (or Tsarina) will ever use that term again.
"The trees are speaking "Слава Україні"
Bud the usa said Vietnam was a war not a special military operation
"тони ти, сволота!"
- the last thing a Russian Sailor hears before meeting Sabastian the crab
Dah seaweed is always greener in somebody else’s lake
You tried to invade Ukraine, and that was a big mistake!
Under the sea, Under the sea, Everything's better down where its wetter take it from me"
@@theloverlyladylo9158 just look at the kelp around you right here on the ocean floor such wonderful wrecks around you what more are you looking for
The other side of the mermaid foreign exchange program.
[she gets legs, you just lost yours]
Ukraine uses sea drones on Russian Warship.
Taiwan: "Write that down, write that down, write that down we need to pass China's sea test".
I feel like the Philippine navy should be taking notes. Those "civilian militia navy" boats could make great target practice
@zacharybaird9236 imagine going to bully an small boat, and then it starts following you and the people you saw in the boat where dummies, they will start to blame someone but is the sea, so same rules they are abusing
China copies everything, don't think they come up with anything original.. Rockets Russia, Aircraft carriers English, Stealth fighters USA there's more..
Taiwan is Dutch
The eager of you guys to incite yet another conflict for no gain and only entertainment is astonishing. But very expected. Warmongering of civilians is reverse proportional to their distance to the frontline
The obvious countermeasure is return of flak cannons (although more advanced with programmable charges) and massive shotguns. If it is too fast to hit it, obliterate the approximate area where it is. The most analog countermeasure to protect an aircraft carrier would be a water surface net trawled behind 2 smaller ships and the carrier in formation in between them.... something like The Ocean Cleanup net but larger. Several long range drones paroling in a perimeter around carrier group nonstop (potentially piloted by the AI) etc. There are many possible countermeasures, these things are just too new so nobody have them implemented and battle tested yet. It is same as with submarines in WW1.
THE AI? There's only a single AI out there now?
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Taiwan taking notes 📝 📝📝📝
Taiwan is already producing sea and air drones in big numbers! Unfortunately so does China . The face of modern warfare is changing practically overnight.
So is China, Iran, and all of their proxies.
Taiwan's search history:
Sea drone river?
Can GBU-57 float
Yangtze river map
Amusingly, President-Elect Lai did go into a rage when he discovered the drone components for their drones were made in China and not Taiwan. Still, once a problem is known, it can be fixed; and better now (While China's dealing with its own PLARF corruption scandal) then later.
The entire island is a drone
I'm glad the Ukrainians are on our side. Taiwan should reach out to them.
Ukraine should reach out to Taiwan 🇹🇼. First off remember who built the factories turning China into a manufacturing superpower - that was Taiwan. Then add to that the high-end AI chips that even China still can’t catch up with… Sea baby say “all your base are belong to us”.
I wish those on our side act faster, not just voice their concerns 😔 our people aren’t expendables.
@@anatoliypankevych4853Це засмучує, я знаю. Однак звичайні люди обмежені в тому, що вони самі можуть робити. Це їхні уряди повільні. Люди, які підтримують, є причиною того, що ми отримуємо допомогу, щоб вони могли коментувати. Кожна людина, яка звертає увагу і говорить про нашу боротьбу за виживання, допомагає нашій справі. 💙💛
It's crazy to think that Ukraine a country without a navy is running circles around the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
Warfare changing man the age of ships and battle tanks is coming to an end
Why do we read so many of you Americans claiming Ukraine are beating Russia! Or are causing Russia big problems?...
I mean, I'm English, and reading all of you is simply mind-numbing, you're clueless! I mean, I just ask, where have all those "modern" western tanks gone?
Where are the 1000+ tanks, Ukraine started with gone?
Or tell us, where is Ukraine's air force, (of over 600 aircraft), they were so proud of?
How about all those NATO trained, Ukrainian army divisions, where are they all?
As for the billions, upon billions, of dollars and weapons they've received endlessly, where is it all?
No! You don't mean, those useless Russians, have smashed to smithereens all those NATO trained Ukrainian Army troop divisions, and all their hi tech US weapon systems (that never work)?
No way, man! I can't be having that! They'd all been trained by NATO for 8 years, man! You know, NATO? That US led organization of clowns, half wits, and transgender's, who only represent the USA, and most certainly not a single European or European country, them, I mean, you know... NATO?.
It was claimed they've been trained by NATO for 8 years, and claimed they were all armed with the best military technology available, man!
But hang on here, a minute, I'm not finished, what about all those mercenaries, where are they all?
What about all those US troops (that we found out were fighting in Ukraine), have they all come home? Or are they all 6' under?
And what about all those Ukrainian fully fit, hard, strong, (fighting men), aged between 12 -15 years old, or those 65 - 75-year-old pensioners... (we all watched being rounded up, and kidnapped off the streets), to be thrown into the front lines? Where are they all?
What? You mean, an 800,000 x2 strong Ukrainian Army, with many NATO trained troops divisions Vs them useless Russians, reduced to fighting with shovels, are all gone? LOL.
It isn't even a Russian invasion of Ukraine! It's only a military operation being carried out to demilitarize and denazify the Ukrainian military.
Ukrainian military losses:
1079 Aircraft.
735 Helicopters.
8,273 UAVs.
1148 Air defence missile systems.
12,274 Tanks and Armoured vehicles.
2,700 multi rocket launchers.
6,887 Field artillery cannons and mortars.
12,395 Special military motor vehicles. Troops falling at a rate of 12/1-14/1 in Russia's favour.
A military crushing, the likes of which, none of us have ever seen before (in other words).
Can you even begin to imagine what those numbers would read, if Russia did invade Ukraine?
@@jackyboi5824USV’s work well in for coastal defense or in limited margarines environments like the Black Sea or Red Sea, definitely not a replacement for a navy, but every navy in the world has something new to think about once they get with a few hundred kilometers of a hostile nations coast. As for tanks, the next generation of tanks is already adding hard kill and soft kill APS not just for ATGM’s but against drones as well. They’re not perfect tech because they require a constant signal for an operator, but their low cost and expendability are their major advantage.
Literally
You're forgetting the historical context that Ukraine did in fact have a navy up until 2014, when the Ukrainian Admiral Denys Berezovsky defected and swore allegiance to the Crimean separatists, along with all but one Ukrainian ship (which was part of Task Force 151 in the Gulf of Aden at the time).
A very interesting video, I feel like this is a perfect example of the saying 'necessity is the mother of invention'.
First of all: 🇺🇦 is great!
Second thought: Taiwan has a chance of defending itself with their amazing industry and China heavily relying on old-time warships.
Can't wait to hear Sabaton's new hit song: "When Sea Babies Attack!"
Oh my god that'd be so sweet.
Unfortunately, "Sabaton" is pro-Russian and most likely you will hear about Never forget about a fallen sailor fighting a crab
They performed in occupied Crimea in support of the occupation. The Swedish army then refused to cooperate with the group after this.
"Sabaton" sold their honor for money, yes they are talented but they have absolutely no idea about the meaning of the words in their songs.
Said the expert😂@@vladkudrya9615
Gay
As soon as the first autonomous sea drone hit a Russian ship, you can bet your ass that there were many MANY counter strategy meetings about how to combat them around the world. Honestly, it's one of the strengths of the US military industrial complex; finding solutions to threats.
это оружие легко повернуть против американских кораблей
@@soulxtr Whatever Ruskybot. If you guys attack us, you're fucked.
I think the US has been thinking about this for quite a while. They're the ones who sent Ukraine that big first sea drone as part of a defense package, and they wanted to see how it would do or what the Ukrainians could come up with using that as a template. And now they're getting a lot of valuable Intel, as the US and Ukrainians are absolutely sharing intelligence on the daily! I think the US will be the most prepared for drone warfare, offensively and defensively... And I'm happy that the Ukrainians will have a valuable industry after the war💪🏼
@@soulxtr Russian and Chinese tech is always inferior to Western tech. Your people have never been our equals.
@@soulxtryea that’s the point he was making
Submariners used to say there are 2 types of boats- submarines, and targets. Methinks that is no longer accurate.
Now there is Drones, and Coral Reefs.
@@Giganfan2k1how dare you suggest that the Moskva and other Russian ships are now coral reefs! They were promoted to the rank of submarines! Learn your facts!
@@MrJjones543 Thanks for the funny. Also not coral reefs, as no coral, correct?
Not really. Sea drones have been used for years now. Its just the low cost of these vs a homing torpedo that is different.
@@therasco400yes, there were early efforts at unmanned exploding fast-boats in WWII, not to mention the ‘Hellburners’ of the late Renaissance and fire ships dating back to prehistory.
Ukraine has developed the navy of the future. Inexpensive, numerous, lethal.
Imagine unmanned battleships like those ironclads in the past but completely automated and remote controlled, no need to waste space with life support systems, kitchens, etc.
And they could divide the entire thing into compartments so its almost impossible to sink. And if you also add some kind of foam inside so that even pierced compartments still give flotation... yeah, unsinkable
I'm starting to think that Simon's the first AI personality as he is on so many channels on TH-cam for so many years. :)
The current Simon could be AI. It popped into my mind before reading this comment - his movements are odd.
Ukraine will be a valuable consultant when it comes to drone deployment and design after all of this is over. Especially when it comes to deployment.
They are writing the handbook on drone warfare. The best R&D is wartime analytics. Lethality, target recognition, miniaturized platforms on the horizon.
I agree I think it’s awesome how they’re using drones saw one of their drone companies at a drone expo they’re building impressive designs overall.
@@DaltonBlack-of5ld was the drone expo in Europe?? Just curious
@@nolongerblocked6210 it was a drone expo in San Diego during April. There was a Ukrainian drone company they were showing off these cargo delivery drones used to drop mortar rounds on tanks or capsules carrying life rafts. There were some recruiters as well (I wouldn’t mind teaching Ukrainians how to fly drones or just fly drones for military purposes).
@@DaltonBlack-of5ld thanks for the info. Ukraine is definitely casting a wide net looking for potential recruits, which is totally understandable
You know what they need? A drone with a long range and towing capability that can slowly and stealthily tow the underwater drones much closer to the target before it’s released and heads to the target on its own. It would obviously be reusable or it could expend all of its fuel in a one way trip to get the other drone possibly close enough to hit Novorossisk. Another idea is having some of these drones spread out in the Black Sea acting as signal repeaters to speed up the response time for the controllers. Maybe there’s technical problems with that but something to consider at least.
Arkangelsk and Murmansk too
Underwater acoustic mesh network analogous to the starlink constellation?
Nice work! I would certainly like to see a deep dive into unmanned weapon systems and whatever logic drives that technological approach to warfare.
Simon forgot to include one very key point in his Global Implications summary:
You can be as certain as the sun will rise in the East that these kinds of drones will be used for drug smuggling. They won't need to rely on Starlink either. Just plot the destination into the onboard computer and an A.I. system will navigate the way - up almost any river...
This is already happening.
That sounds like a bunch of unnecessary work compared to just calling UPS or Fed Ex and scheduling a pick up
@@surferdude4487
I don't doubt that.
@@texasd1385 The problem with that is that my packages, containing drugs, always seem to get stopped at the border. Then I get a phone call from somebody with a Hindi accent telling me about it. But I just can't seem to retrieve these packages because the moment I ask if it was the cocaine or the pot, they hang up. Really, it's costing me a fortune to duplicate those lost shipments. :P
@@SeanOHanlonit's cheaper to put a nearly free peerson in the boat to drive it
Just a hint, all names we write in a latin transliteration are ought to be read as they are wrote, so, for example, "Marichka" should be pronounced as [m a r i ch k a], with ch like in chair, followed by k. Marichka is a softer/cozier form of the name Maria (or Mariya in Ukrainian).
Not trying to school you at all! Just thought it might be useful for you to know, that pretty much all our words are transliterated in a simple "read as it's spelled" way (maybe except the somewhat confusing "kh" vs "h" rule, the first is pronounced like "h" as in hoot, and the second is somewhere between "g" and "h" sounds).
Thank you for your videos
Simon pronounces just about every foreign word in the most butchered way possible. At this point I'm pretty sure he's doing a bit.
@@fraserwilson249 great way to get more comments also =)
Simon doesn't care or have time to care, he has to do content for his 20 channels
@@Atomy111 Yes, I always wondered how many channels does he have =)
Thanks. Good to learn something new. 👍👍
Ah yes, i shall now find things to be as relatable as "A Wolf Pack of Sea Babies"
Sea babies would be of use in the Baltic Sea, too.
i love that name, it's so good.
Sea speaking Estonian/Finnish 😁
Do you guys ever get tired of validating Russia’s concerns and giving them reasons to fear NATO expansion?
@@Matt-yg8ubNATO is a defensive alliance, Russia could either start a war with all of them or one of them could start a war with Russia.
@@Matt-yg8ub No, I don’t. They have threatened with nukes since the 90’s, and their state sanctioned media constantly talks about destroying this and that country, or annexing them.
Placating rogue state has never and will never work. Only a serious military deterrent is a guarantee of safety in the future. I don’t want my safety to be based on “pretty please don’t destroy me 🥺” and then hope they listen.
24:00 You managed to mispell "Kyiv" and "Moscow" (Katsapistan) in one image. Well done on your research!!!
Superb analysis and presentation. Simply superb!
This is definitely interesting watching this as a filipino because this is exactly the very thing we need in the face of an upcoming potential threat of a china parking their navy in the west ph sea.
For Philippines as an archipelago it would most definitely help!
@@static2223 Some of the problems that countries like Philippines face is the budget of any of the major war countries, or even the budget of one factory of such is likely far greater than the GNP of the Philippines. So, correct that simple and economic solutions are the only solutions available.
@@GodelFishbreath our president is currently looking into changing the economic provisions of our constitution, once that happens i believe our GDP would grow immensely and that could help with modernizing the entirety of our country by using AI and manufacturing to mass produce goods for export.
Greetings from Latvia! Before peace summit Zelensky was in Philippines. I hope your government expressed interest in exchanging such knowledge. If not, it could be one of the agendas for the next meeting.
@@SpiiiiiceeMANspeaking as someone from a country which had to make big changes in the 80s, what I found living in 2001-2 era Philippines was the stranglehold on imports/exports, extreme protectionism and glacial customs/postal systems were effectively shackling the economy to a boat anchor
major reforms are needed and I haven't seen any appetite for them. Just like Nigeria, anticorruption drives have to come out of the indigenous middle classes who've found it interferes with doing business
There is a huge factor that can prevent the proliferation of sea drone Armageddon that you didn't cover, or at least hold it off from being nearly as dangerous and long ranged. Ukraine's sea drones seem to be using a satellite data uplink. That's the weak link here. If various rebel and terrorist groups are going to use sea drones at a distance where they can keep their operators safe while attacking using drones, they'll need a communications link, and if Star Link or whatever satellite service takes countermeasures against naval drone type activity in certain regions, then those drones are out of luck, and will have to roll their own radio communications. That is way harder than it may seem. Jamming seems to be the low hanging fruit of counter-drone warfare. A cargo ship might not be able to kinetically fight back, but I can see jammers proliferating as a first line of defense against terrorist and aggressor drones.
Jammers don't discriminate. If you're hauling a powerful long range jammer, you're going to be in as much of a communications black out as those drones. Also the drones have on board chips. There already exists completely autonomous sea drones capable of steering by themselves towards their target. Communications jamming would not help you against a drone who is doing all the computing internally. You would need an EMP in that instance. Phone chips are powerful enough to provide basic targeting systems for drones to indentify and attack targets all on their own. Pair that with on board Ai visual detection systems, and those drones will then be able to tell the difference between targets and choose priorities accordingly all on their own. All of this technology already exists, it just needs someone to bundle it all together in an explosive package😊
@@thecooljohn100 couple a drone with a way to follow a jamming signal to its source, and also add cameras to it so once its close enough, it can identify targets autonomously and bingo, you've got a counter-countermeasure
Then Taiwan 🇹🇼 enters the picture. Cheap AI chips forming that wolfpack of sea babies. Then the drones lose their starlink inhibitions for whatever reason and they gonna start coming up with these new mind game strategies on their own. ET grow up and don’t need to phone home.
@@thecooljohn100 this is at best half true. a jammer will absolutely shut down whatever band of communications you set it for no matter who is using that band. however. any moderately competant military can chose to use bands they are not presently jamming to communicate. the trick is figuring out what band your enemy is using, jamming that band, and shifting our coms out of that frequency range. obviosly this is a lot harder than It sounds like and requires constant updating especially if both sides employ jamming and keep shifiting what bands are jammed. Russia used to be good at this however they have evidently lost the skill. in the modern day their jamming does work the way you describe as they resort to jamming nearly every communications band at once or shutting down the jammer to talk. that that is a mark of SHOCKING incompetence for what was supposed to be the worlds second most dangerous military.
The big thing I can see is that these are primarily coastal defence craft, though I can see them becoming part of an ocean going force’s arsenal
Ukraine? Do you mean Build A Drone Workshop?
I'm pretty sure we Americans paid for that thing.
Oh Oh Oh, I want a Build a Drone in my shopping mall!!!
Ukraine has out-CIA'd the CIA
Or Europe paid for it, and without complaining about it the entire time @User_Unknown86
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Fantastic channel!! A real pleasure to be subscribed. Thankyou.
Back during the Golden Age of Pirates, privateers would be issued 'Letters of Marque', which legally empowered a privateer PIRATE to attack the sea-going commercial vessels of enemy countries (...enemy to the country that issued the Letter of Marque, that is.) In effect, the whole 'Letters of Marque' -game was a version of a *proxy war,* which was conducted within the "battle ground" of economics. This is what weaponized sea-going drone technology could eventually evolve into, as an unintended consequence.
It is worth noting that the US Navy at least is in a very good position for deploying sea drone countermeasures as soon as they can be developed. American carriers get all the glory, but they operate in carrier strike groups, which includes an escort force of at least one cruiser and two destroyers, usually more in addition to the carrier itself. These ships are intended primarily to serve one task: keep the carrier alive and working. And by and large, they're very good at it.
From what I can tell based on their armament, a modern cruiser is primarily a platform for missiles - cruise missiles, SAMs, and pretty much anything else that isn't a ballistic nuclear missile (the USN puts those on subs) and is probably their answer for threats in the air. Destroyers typically are primarily intended to deal with submarines these days, but they also have a variety of small gunnery options for dealing with the little stuff. As such, the destroyer will probably be home to whatever systems they find work well against sea drones.
Also, it's very worth noting that while this is the navy of a wealthier country that the Ukrainians are harassing with these sea drones, it is specifically the *Russian* Navy. The Russian navy has never not sucked compared to other major powers in the world. Part of that is the fact that Russia effectively maintains 4 navies: Pacific, Arctic, Baltic and Black Sea, all of whom are pretty cut off from one another and thus have to operate pretty much independently. Part of that is strategic prioritization - Russia tends to favour land war over sea war, and since the early days of the Soviet Union, also favoured air over sea. Part of that is just Russian corruption at play - modern naval vessels are not only really big and expensive, but also really complex and really maintenance heavy. A modern navy needs sailors with a good education into how their systems work, a strong motivation to maintaining them properly, and a combination of discipline and good pay that is sufficient to make the vast majority of them not feel the need to supplement their pay by skimming parts to sell, shirking work, etc...and they need that even in peacetime since you tend not to have many chances to fix long standing problems with your ships during a war. This isn't to say the Russian navy is trivial, but of the major powers of the world, Russia's navy is probably the least capable of adapting to a new threat.
This must have been what it was like to notice an aircraft stopping the Bismarck
Never been this early, love your channel man ❤
Fascinating as always, Simon. Thanks for all you do!
I've seen comparisons made between the Sea Drone technology and the French Jeune Ecole concepts of the late 19th Century, which also sought to address the balance of a smaller naval trying to compete with a numerically superior one, particularly the use of small torpedo boats and early subs to combat battleships. The counter saw the development of the Destroyer (AKA Torpedo Boat Destroyer) and rapid fire guns on large ships.
It's interesting to see how old ideas and concepts that were defunct have circled back into use again.
The discussion about where this is headed is an important one. Navy, Air Force, Army.... all need to rethink large budget equipment.
One of my biggest fears involves using cargo ships as a first attack weapons in major ports. Once done all shipping and the economies will be.... in deep water.
Drones, missiles, and cargo ships ...oh my.
Good video. :-)
A Tom Clancy novel from the 80s used exactly that gambit, with a Soviet merchant vessel passing Iceland and suddenly offloading enough Russian military to take the country.
@@YoniBaruch-y3m this small fleet had a tig boat and fueling ship, but they don't come close to the capacity of storage of a large cargo ship or tanker. Interesting times.
Oh yes a modern version of a Kormorant. A Disguised Cargo Ship that's carrying hundreds of Missile & Drone Pods disguised as Cargo Containers.
@@KevinWarburton-tv2iy the ultimate trojan horse and it doesn't have to be one horse. Add nukes and EMP... what a mess. Hope not. The consequences would be dire on ALL sides.
At least our new friends in Ukraine will be the experts.
You got to love those 3D printers 😂
Ground based drones may become pretty significant too. Apparently Ukraine says it's experimenting with them.
I hope they do cause it will save lives.
The next step is obviously shallow submersibles with only comm/nav masts above surface if needed. These could be retracted once a solution is programmed. This makes them harder to detect and counter, as well as more effective as surrounding water acts like a force multiplier on explosive force.
It would take an ambush by a massive number of sea drones to sink a carrier.
The US CVN Washington took 4 weeks of torpedoes and bombs and still did not sink. It took demolition engineers to finally scuttle it. Additionally, CVNs are blue water ships that always operate in strike groups, meaning they do not need to operate with 400 miles of land and have many other ships protecting them.
The real threat of sea drones is in their litoral use. They are extremely effective at keeping cruisers and destroyers off coast lines and preventing beach landings.
Lol the russians are pretty liable to accidentally sink their own ship for us, no drones required 😂
@DefconDelta88 lol, that is true. I was talking more US ships and CVN.
That's MakAROV Simon, my Skintellectual friend, you know, named after the same man behind the (in)famous Soviet sidearm range Nikolay Fyodorovich Makarov...nope!, actually it was named after Stepan Osipovich Makarov Ukrainian born Russian Vice Admiral.(thanks for the correction Anatoliypankevych!)
This man Makarov is fighting his own war and he has no rules. No boundaries. He doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking, or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or country or any set of ideals. He trades blood for money. He's your new best friend. You don't want to know what it's cost already to put you next to him.
@@ProbablyNotLegit No Russian in there man!, you're codding me!
Infamous pistol? How so?
Actually that’s Stephan Makarov, Ukrainian-born admiral that served on fleet of russian empire .
@@anatoliypankevych4853 thank you so much! i'll correct that now!
I swear these things look like some of the race/ski boats I grew up playing with in the 70s & 80s! That big one looks like an old Donzi.
I would think Taiwan would be building them as fast as possible.
I swear the content of your channels are top tier. If we still used DVDs, I'd buy your while collection. Bravo!
Дуже дякую, Сімон!
Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
Свобода Навіки!
Well done, Ukraine. You've already won!!!! Keep up the good work. Good reporting. Many thanks. Strong Ukraine.
The unintended consequence will be that we will suddenly find ourselves with no means to "pull the plug" 🔌 on any of these militarized drone technologies.
You will never catch a US aircraft carrier sailing alone, they have entire task forces sailing with them. Sea drones would have to get through several counter measures.
Not to mention the US has probably been thinking about this threat for quite a while. I'm assuming that they do not want to show their hand yet. They will wait for the right time to show off their new drone countermeasures, they probably just don't want Russia or China getting any ideas just yet..
China has already built a 200-ton USV for ASW
The future of naval combat is unmanned
I think the main issue is not that these are impossible to defend against, they are not impossible to defend against actually. The fact is that you can build over a thousand of these and still spend less than a conventional ship. Even the current weapons are barely fit to fend against these attacks, not because they can't, but because they're either impractical due to: not enough ammunition or fire rate, not enough accuracy; or too expensive to use against an expendable drone.
The main tactic I would imagine to work against these would be electronic warfare. Cut off the drone's signal to its pilot before it reaches you, but even then, it could go into a sorts of autonomous mode, like search for the nearest jamming signal or some sort of rudimentary radar to get a "something might be over here" signal and then use cameras to locate targets more accurately than the cheap radar could. There's still countermeasures against these that could work as well actually. I just don't know what they are, but I'm sure engineers more fit for this task have already figured this out.
I’m not a expert at all but if you attacked with say 100 sea drones and 1000 air drones it could be possible to overwhelm defences by sheer numbers
Cutting comunications in age of AI is dubious countermeasure to count on...
More realistic would be thermal guided CWIS or Javelin like system but both of those are expensive and would need time to be properly developed, something russians are utterly incapable of right now
Great topic!
Solid stuff sir!
Great video. Great analysis 👍
I think it's important to understand - ruz battleship are not worse or better than British, US or Chinese. Any boat in costal zone from now on will be in danger of this new threat. Basically- manuvaruble torpedo
And all of us need to think how to counter that
It'll send a chill down every naval commander's spine, just like when aircraft first started being used against ships effectively. It's a game changer.
But the Russian Navy is in pretty bad shape in comparison to even the British Navy. The Russians have some really good ships, but their most important ships don't work very well, and apparently the ports that are supposed to service/fix them aren't in very good condition either.
Don't forget the underwater water ones can Attack Submarines as well.
@@CursedLink666 Where are such conclusions from? Propaganda? Russia is building new ships of all classes. Now Russia gets better practice in combating drones.
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This is a very expensive and embarrassing way of gaining experience.
On top of which, the US navy is probably learning just as much, if not more, and its not costing them anywhere near any much.
As for propaganda, you'd be the expert about that, wouldn't you?
@@soulxtrlol, the country is fooked. Whatever innovation could come goes up in smoke cos no one smart wants to live there 😅
Here before the bots
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Same
Dear Lord. Nobody cares how "early" you were. It's the one cringe comment you can be sure will be there.
not for long
Said every Bot ever
Sea drone = long range RC torpedo
Very interesting stuff! Thank you for this episode.
First time viewer. Your production of this podcast was quite impressive. Looking forward to watching more.
Crazy how no one predicted this or similarly an fpv drone destroying tanks or even more expensive equipment
I predicted the fpv drones. Not sure if people listened to me but i described fpv drones with exlosives and 3d printed retrofitted parts in late 2020. It was in fact to a ukranian dude under a video about potential war between ukraine and russia. Again im not sure anyone listened to me. It was obvious really. Whats better then flying an explosive where ever you want to? And if you can do it cheaply too. It was no brainer really.
ISIS made extensive use of FPV drones during its rise and fall in Iraq from 2014-2017, including the dispersed, adaptive production model Ukraine is using now. I distinctly remember a video of a drone dropping a large mortar round on an advancing Iraqi army humvee.
Best commercial for Starlink ever. I love mine, but haven't tried using it to make a kamikaze drone.
Dependence on starlink is an extremely weak link, because the personality of Elon Musk, he is pro-Russian and betrays his allies, he repeatedly turned off the Internet during operations, I am sure that in a war from Taiwan with China, he will choose China.
😂haven’t had a good Simon pronunciation in a while…’MAK-A-ROV”, …like the pistol❤
Excellent work on this video. Enjoy your research.
Absolutely brilliant description and then breakdown of the ramifications of this technology!
00:28 what?
Great article Simon and crew!
Fascinating video Simon, thanks.
Simon and crew have done it again - a very entertaining and educational video accompanies by Simon's most enjoyable mangling of Ukrainian drone names
One thing you didn't address is starlink. Starlink has made these fpv drones possible. Before starlink the latency was to high to be able to control drones.
3:33 Simon suggests the use of star link behind the drones.
Just keep gem boy straight about what side he supports
I saw one of the videos where Ukrainians mentioned that they stopped using starlink since Elon Musk turned it off at crucial moments. So Ukraine may be using something else now but they did use starlink for the first year or so.
Totally 100% incorrect all starlink changed was giving them an easy access to satellite links. Fpv drones aren't even using sat links that's why they're range isn't 1000kms like these sea drones. Fpv drones use analog video links and most are now using elrs for rc control. There is plenty of c1 links for satellite that provides under a 150ms link which is plenty fast enough. Hell the gps dji drones are usually around there
@@Brian-S you can see the starlink's on top of some of the drones
That's alot of modern day museum under that ocean.
Just a note, moskva was sinked by Ukraine made missile Neptune not sea drone. It was first 2-3 month of invasion they didn’t have sea drones yet.
My Father worked on the Cargos side of Mother Mercury and was talking about his adventure with the mindset of Germans and Russian military forces and his support for them at the time of the war from Africa to the USA to Bermuda and east black sea sever information radar and tactical weapons defended her well ❤
I wish Ukraine would never sunk the Kutznetsov because the mere existence of that ship is a sinking blackhole in the Russian military budget
LoL a Money Pit?
They'll never sink it as it cannot enter the Turkish strait until after the war.
But yeah. Incase Russia manages to sneak the Kutznetsov then restarts the war, best for Ukraine to keep the carrier barely operational.
Never mind that, it's comedy gold, and thus has to stay afloat 😄
@triadwarfare Russias doing a stellar job of keeping it barely operational already!
Hey im third in commenting, i enjoy your content. 😉
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@@craigboden9455Christ dude, learn some manners
This was a very good presentation. Kudos.
Amazing post! Good job.
I'm not going to say no to a video on forcefields......
33:17 yes please to learn more on this type of tech
Agreed