A friend of mine loves his Craptiva. He's had it since new and has been a good car with very few issues, apart from being on his 3rd AC compressor and 2nd alternator. Minor issues and all replaced under warranty luckily. He does have a Toyota beater as a second car just in case.
I joined an Everest owners group when i was considering getting a brand new one, glad i did, so many horror stories. Gearboxes, torque converters, engines, ecus, adblue systems, rust in the doors of 4yo cars... The common phrase when someone says they're having an issue: "yeah, its common, do a search"
Lucky for you Pretz - Adam’s report is spot on and as I’m in my senior years and can tell you to avoid Ford, Jeep, LandRover, Holden, GMC, RAM, European, Chinese (cheap for a reason), Indian and UK brands - if it’s not built in Japan avoid it with the exception of woeful Nissan ‘Renault’ - I’ve owned many Subarus and now Toyotas due to more off-road requirements and they’ve been very reliable with a good service/support culture - also avoid VW/Skoda/Audi as they’re all cousins with numerous long term issues - the new Mitsubishi Outlander is a rebadged Nissan XTrail so avoid that too.
The original xtrails were gold. Had one for 13 years. Got it up to 390,000kms. And yep, like he said, Head gasket went. Spewing I didn’t get it to 400k!
I work for Audi in Australia and I can confirm they are shocking we have a “Audi grave yard” waiting on parts and most of the time it’s a few grand to fix if not in the 10s. Not worth it if you don’t have warranty they will break down and cost you thousands for repairs. That stands for most Audis
I'll save you 15 minutes. #1 Nissan Pathfinder #2 BMW X5 #3 Nissan X-Trail #4 Audi Q5 #5 Mercedes GL Class #6 Land Rover and Range Rover products (skimmed this bit. they might've specified models) #7 Holden Captiva Thumbs up if helpful.
Haha, for sure..2003, window, wiring loom shorting out, a/c control module issues. Followed by a 2013 diesel that shat the alternator at 100thou kms and developed overheating issues, which could be resolved by turning the heater to full warm😅 Love the v8 burble of the 03 4.7..Superb long distance drive and economy in the WK2 3l VM motori engine..
I had a Series II 3.0 V6 2014 Captiva, bought it new had it for six years with absolutely NIL issues at all. By April 2020 I felt my good luck was going to run out and I tried to trade it in at a Holden dealership, they didn't want it, not did they believe me when I told them I had zero problems with it.
Yep pretty much as expected, ironically we have a discovery sport HSE brought new in 2015. Its been a solid car, 122k on the clock no mechanical issues or electrical. We've done all the servicing timing belt and water pump done last service. So there can be good news stories.
I had a Nissan T31 with a manual transmission and never had an issue with it. I always had it serviced as per the manual and sold it privately with the buyer saying he had never seen one in such good condition. I couldn't see the advantage of the T32 so moved to another brand and now glad I did.
Too true, their GTR is in desperate need of revision and the latest Z is far too pricy new. That and they keep putting out cars with their Rubbish CVTs
@MrLurchsThings that's what happens when they hired a dodgy French CEO who was notoriously good @ Cost-cutting (alot of the $ saved allegedly went into his own pockets)
My father had a 2008 Renault Laguna and it was pretty much bulletproof mechanically. A highly refined 2.0 diesel engine, that sounded better than pretty much any other diesel of it's day (including premium brands), a very reliable classic 6 speed auto and ok interior and my father was prefectly happy with his car. We are in Romania (eastern europe), but the car was imported from Germany, usually cars made for Germany have a higher quality
2 that deserves to be on the list is are the Dodge Nitro and the Mercedes X Class. For the X Class my dad was talking to a bloke who bought one straight off the lot and one the way for the free 1k service the front wheel assembly blew up and locked the front wheels stopping it dead in its tracks as well as electrical gremlins galore so he traded it onto a land cruiser. With the Craptiva a few things that'd be safer than driving one are; Tap dancing in an minefield Drag racing in a shopping trolley Skinny dipping with pacu fish Smoking near a leaking gas tank. Brilliant video guys and look forward to Friday's video as always 👍.
Landcruiser could very well be on the list as well. A mate only just got his relatively new 200 serries back after it was off the road for 10 months because the sunroof leaked and water got into the wiring. Neither Toyota nor the dealership he bought it from would honour the warranty. It was a $40,000 repair bill. There was also a second one in the dealership for the same problem and for a similar length of time.
It's very rare for Land Cruisers to have serious issues, especially when new. The one I heard of with engine issues was bought used, and it was neglected by the previous owners.
Not really Japanese so much as you mean Asian, Japanese start off with scooters and motorcycles. Hence Honda, without western influence I highly doubt they would've ever entered into the car market.
Audi Q5 is lovely to drive. Spilled some water from a bottle on the back seat, it went down the buckle hole under the seat. Apparently there a computer module right under, not covered at all. Better yet it sits in an open housing that holds water around it. Not much to say but that it completely shut down the car and waiting 2 weeks for the part for lots of $$$ and Audi said 🤷🏻♂️
Ditto there 2010 2.7 320kms 3rd timing belt plus fresh set of Pirelli Scorpions going on next month. Btw theres several getting around Central Vic now north of 600k’s. The new Prado doesn’t even come close. Enjoy.
What’s happening to German luxury brands is a catastrophe. The 1970s and 1980s Mercedes Benz cars were built like mobile bank vaults. The E series cars of that era were seen going strong in war zones decades after being made. Crying shame! The only solution is Lexus I reckon.
Recession of the 90s and purchasing by General Motors, Daimler, and other parent companies led to cost reductions and part’s sharing. Luxury cars don’t exist anymore. You just pay the cost of whatever you like. That cost is either up front, or in the form of maintenance later.
Hey Adam, Loving the work you do. Would you consider a story on whether kei cars and vans are fun enough to overcome the limitations of a real life Matchbox or Hotwheels car? I love the Copen, later model Move, and HiJet 4wd vans. Fuel economy, fun looks and quirky handling vs no warranty, no spares and tiny, tiny engines.
Great request mate and we're quite literally filming a Suzuki Alto Works tomorrow and a Honda NBox and Suzuki Spacia in a few weeks with more Kei cars coming. - AK
A few years ago, before I knew anything about cars or even had watched TH-cam about them I nearly bought a Captiva. Even without knowing anything I somehow sensed during test drive the general bodgyness of it and backed out.
Am on my 4th BMW X5 (2020 model). Never had a problem (apart from dash rattles in a 2006 model). I sold that one with 130,000km and the buyer did over 400,000 km without a major problem. My previous 2012 model had 150,000km when I sold it privately. I see the new owner who loves the car and no problems. I always get my cars serviced regularly by a European car specialist or BMW while under warranty. Look after your cars people and your car will look after you.
2016 Audi SQ5 completely issue free in 2 years. After sitting in it you’ll never want to look at Toyota, Ford, Nissan, Honda ever again that have plastic interiors terrible sound isolation and performance for grandpas
I had a manual 2007 diesel Captiva and it didn't miss a beat. That was until I hit a kangaroo. Did nearly 300k on the dial. Used it as a daily drive (120km a day) and on the farm. I truly miss it.
Our local garage owner who services and repairs all makes told me if you must have a European car, buy it new (or better still lease it) and get rid of it before the warranty runs out.
I have the 2015 Captiva, Engine died at 76K Now the engine light is always on, even after service. It now has 300K and needs new struts, lower control arms. rear rotors and has a few electrical issues. Can't wait to trade that in.
I had a 2013 X-Trail and I loved it but had the transmission completely shite itself. The transmission specialist said it’s a very common problem and he is kept in business by the x-trails 😢 shame because until it happened I was in love
Pre 2014 Q5 had a quiet recall but not recall, where the DSG would stall on takeoff sometimes. Was cured with a software update when a customer complained…
I have a 2010 L320 RR Sport 5.0 V8 petrol. I bought it in 2022 as a company car and its my daily driver. I do 20,000 urban km per year. Apart from a new water pump and consumables like brakes and tyres which needed doing at the time of purchase, it has been faultless. Having had 3 previous L320s, I knew what I was buying. I also own a service and repair workshop specialising in Euro vehicles so it's thoroughly inspected and serviced every 5,000 km. Get a good one and they are magic.
I wish I could get a well mantained RRS, but this is almost like playing russian rulette, you never know until you get it, so thinking about getting a nothing-fancy FJ cruiser
Bloke across the road had a GL63 from new - always serviced on time at the Merc dealer. It was about 6 of 7 years old when the whole front end collapsed- Merc wanted $25k to fix it.
One that nobody seems to know about is the Mazda Skyactiv-D engine sold on the CX-5, CX-8, and 6. Head gaskets, injectors, oil pump chains, DPF are all very common issues. Jump on trade me sort by CX-5 diesel lowest price there's always a few of these scrap heaps.
Only just started watching your channel and so much great info. I had a Merc ML absolutely dreadful, have SL350 now and minor issues mainly the service and parts in FNQ. Getting a used 4x4 end september and this may not have made up my mind it certinally made up mind that my dreams are shattered on a range rover ( all people said I was stupid) and cars not what to get.
I've owned a t31 X-Trail. For the last 7 yrs. I would say it's not to bad in regards to issues. But in saying that I would never touch Nissan again that qr25de engine is a engine that really could of been engineered alot better. Nissan's demise came from Carlos Gohan stealing and embezzling funds from both Nissan and Renault this heavily affected Nissan. I'm just glad I bought the manual.
Yes ‘ads’ it’s a shame he did such reputational and economic damage to what was a good brand - I owned a 1972 Datsun 1200 Coupe, 1976 180B, Nissan Skyline ‘Godzilla (sold to buy a house) which were all rust free, reliable and great to drive - we all know the CVT issues and other items have basically killed the brand now despite the Patrol and Navara being very good vehicles.
Incorrect. Nissan was on its knees in the 1990s. Renault saved its arse. If it wasn't for Carlos Ghosn Nissan (and Mitsubishi) would no longer be making cars.
@@68404 so it's ok to steal from money from the company you work for. Even tho you say he saved Nissan and Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi and Nissan could not save them selves and Renault engines are one of the most unreliable peices of crap aswell. And it wasn't just Carlos who embezzled the cash the some of the board members did to buy Carlos was the ring leader. And no one can deny that
Many Renault diesels (like the 2 litre dci) have clocked over 1 million kilometres. Their petrol egines from the 1990s are powering millions of Dacias and Lada. Which Renault engine is 'one of the most unreliable peices(sic) of crap?'@@adsconlabouring
I'm going to have to ad the Ford Territory. Mine and others have just hit 10-12 years old and are falling apart! In the last 2 years, the diff cracked, 3 door actuators failed (so couldn't lock the doors), the hinge on the boot cracked and the plastics inside the car are now brittle and falling apart. A month ago I had to replce the main ECU computer! Mine has only 143000km on it
You didnt mention oxygen sensor errors on the Xtrail. My friend had one and he would get a check engine light ever so often with that code. On that note we both owned Nissans of that era and we were plagued with those issues. One mechanic even told me he makes a sustainable living dealing with Nissan check engine lights alone.
I am looking at one of these for 6500 AUD: 2009 Audi Q5 2.0 TFSI. Engine has been rebuilt with new main and big end bearing, conrods, pistons/ring, oil pump, timing gear, cam bridge, balance shafts and oil squirters. Also has new water pump, alternator and starter motor. The down side: It has an engine light for 'lean bank 1' which is either the catalytic convertor or oxygen sensors; Leather interior Runs well. 80% tyres. Registered until Nov 24. Is it worth it? I’m willing to spend some money to fix the engine light (did some research and should be able to get it done for 1k maybe) but being the engine rebuild does it make it more reliable?
I would have mentioned the Nissan Murano, but it's not exactly internationally available. However, since the Pathfinder is on this list, and the Murano is similar, that will do.
i can vouch for land rovers suspension issues mainly the air bag ones. since i do alignments on them i need to set it on normal mode, but some of them refuse to work
We had a t31 xtrail adventure from 2012 till 2021. Not many issues but there was the shuddering. The cvt was garbage to use. I prefer the old school auto gearbox
family friends dropped like 200 grand on a Range Rover. Had a full refund inside 3 weeks after all of the electronics flogged out while they were going 110km/h and the driver became the passenger.
Very honest and accurate report Adam - as I’m in my senior years and can tell you to avoid Ford, Holden, GMC, RAM, European, Chinese (cheap for a reason), Indian and UK brands - if it’s not built in Japan avoid it with the exception of woeful Nissan ‘Renault’ which is a shame because they were a good brand (owned a Godzilla and Nissan Patrol) - I’ve owned many Subarus and now Toyotas due to more off-road requirements and they’ve been very reliable with a good service/support culture - also the new Mitsubishi Outlander is a rebadged Nissan XTrail so avoid that too - Mercedes drivers are well known for their ‘status’ waving and nostalgia for their home country where Mercedes are prevalent as Beirut taxis - a bit comic considering what pieces of garbage these vehicles are.
Is buying a preused 2019 Mistuibushi Oulander good idea? Details are below 2020 Mitsubishi Outlander ES ZL Auto AWD MY20, Mileage 90k. Has 2.4l petrol engine.
$7,600 1997 lexus es300 in 2023, just need to replace the radiator and that’s it’s and it’s not even urgent. just a bit leaky. done 190,000kms so i’m not too fussed but yeah, never going near any european cars… like ever or any GM products
Hah, except two cars out of the first three are Japanese, and the Holden Captiva is Korean... this list seems to cover most main car manufacturing countries.
I Had a Craptiva for 4 years (2013 Diesel version )and somehow it was reliable for me. Some DPF warning issues that a longer drive sorted out. The thing is - I heard so much bad stuff that I was never able to fully relax as an owner. Sold it for OK money in the COVID used car price inversion and moved to a 2019 Subaru Outback Premium. - what a contrast in ride and engineering - and it was nice to not be waiting for a breakdown. I hope the new owner had a good run out of it too. It must have been the legendary CRAPTIVA Unicorn version. So yeah! - just off to buy a lottery ticket now.
If your Outback is diesel, watch out still for DPF issues. A mate from work just had to flog of his wife's 3-year old outback beacause of it. Subaru wouldn't do anything under warranty...
@@cliffbooth4826 its completely and utterly excellent. Leather seats, heated if you want - drive fantastically and I have taken it places off road that has surprised the Landcruisers that were also there.
@@oddoken I got out of DIesel after the Captiva and went to Petrol. Diesel makes sense if you are doing country ks - Problem is that dealers and manufacturers don't do enough to educate their customers who buy them. Diesel if a definite no no for the City. Diesels pre 2011 ish were ok because they didn't have to have the dpf systems fitted. Its a complicated situation!
I'm so lucky with my E70 40D. its been good to me, Now sitting at 220,000kms, however I know the previous owner had issues with the DPF a few times. She would always do short city drives causing tyeh filter to block up. Now it drives in the rural area's its been amazing. Having said that, It's been serviced every 10,000kms from new, not the BMW recommended intervals. I do have the Boot rattle as you have mentioned in your review of the X5 though but to be expected when you let the yanks build!
Very surprised the Tiguan wasn't on this list considering how much you shat all over that car in your review! P.S. review my 2014 Audi SQ5 TDI...I'm in Sydney!
I love my Q5 😢 Albeit I did experience a few electronic gremlins, mainly glitchy warning lights when nothing was wrong, some weird transmission cut outs and rubber seals wearing out on one of the doors 😅 Despite this it’s an awesome car. So lovely to drive & fuel efficient.
Our B8.5 A4 (virtually the same as the 2nd generation of Q5) has the odd glitchy warning light as well. Tends to be after we get very hot or very wet weather.
Agree with the list. Except I was hoping to see Hyundai Kia. Holden is also quite garbagy because they were rebadged Daewoos. Nissan can be quite bad with the older ones, however I think their reputation has improved with the newer stuff.
@@tlevans62 It’s too much of a hit or miss. I know people who’ve had luck with them and even more that had major problems with them. I can’t really think of them as reliable.
If I have a car as dreary as a craptiva or xtrail the least they could do is being reliable. Incidentally I'll put the third gen rav4 on there for being surprisingly shit for a Toyota. In laws had a lot of expensive troubles.
It always makes me laugh how people think Renault made Nissan not reliable. I work for Renault and the big problem of the alliance with Nissan is not sharing anything contrairy to people opinion. That was the main reason for the alliance almost falling apart in 2020
What really annoys me is how the Jatco CVT has been such a disaster and now it’s the only transmission available in some models. The Mitsubishi Outlander is a perfect example. 10+ year old Outlanders will be piled up at wreckers everywhere with failed cvts
What is really important to know and would be nice to be added to videos like this - do all of the mentioned issues happen even after facelift? Which of them? Out of experience, I've seen cars perform much, much better in their later years, usually after facelift.
I currently own a Mercedes ML63 ( same era as this GL class) and it is a dumpster fire. Sure it's got over 500hp and sounds amazing when on full tilt but there are so many factory faults it's mind blowing. Never again will I buy a Mercedes or any other European vehicle.
I've only had good things from my T30 and T31 Xtrails. I've seen a few oil burning similar generation Rav4's, though, so I wouldn't necessarily give them a free pass based on the Toyota reliability reputation thing. It's hard to fault a K powered CRV, though.
Land Rover Discovery Sport with the Ingenium engine. Euro 6 just killed the ICE. Not quite fair, but I wouldn't own a modern Land Rover without a warranty. I'm on LR number 5. It's a love/despair thing.
I was doing some trade work on a blokes house in early 2000's. He was in marketing for Audi and asked me if as a tradie does a 4x4 audi sound like a thing for Australia. I didnt know jack about cars but said yeah, that sounds awesome. Sorry Australia 😂
You gotta be specific. Those so called British Brand Land/Range Rover are actually Tata Land Rover. Tata core business for transport is heavy vehicles called lorries based out of India in the British lingo
Love your content. Best format and information for used vehicles I've seen. I'm in the US and would appreciate a 'special' on American brands if you ever have the opportunity. Keep up the good work!
Funny enough (or accurately enough), I remember seeing someone's Instagram story, he actually saw and recorded 3 Captivas breaking down on the highway in one day. Maybe it doesn't matter if it's a local-spec or overseas-spec, a Craptiva will always be a Craptiva. (In which, spoiler alert, is now crappier, since it's essentially a rebadged Chinese crossover.)
the holden transmission lasted 7000k when brand new started to to leak fluid and was internal damaged crack the housing they didnt wanna fix it saying it hit something it was BS good thing Holden is dead for good
What's worse than the Craptiva owner who has never had a problem and loves the thing? The Craptiva owner who has had a shitload of problems and still thinks it's a great thing. I know one. He also swears Land Cruisers are rubbish so your jibe at the Craptiva's intro made me laugh.
And people thought vapor lock and an electric fuel pump prone to overheating in the Lucas fuel injection in the Triumph 2.5 PI was so complicated... piffle compared to these heaps of boring junk
i love the list very spot on i work in the automotive industry and i knew that the nissan xtrail n pathfinder suffer from cvt issues and captivas they havent had a good wrap ever... now any captiva that is traded in at work is now wholesaled out because not worth keeping.. most euro cars aint that good when they get on with age if they are not looked after
The N57 is in literally millions of cars. So is the ZF box. Seems a bit stupid to suggest there's a problem with the X5. Either those engines and boxes would be failing in all vehicles or, maybe, it's just isolated incidents in cars getting on a bit. They do big miles with wide service intervals
So mainly Nissan, then Audi, Mercedes, Land Rover and Holden (Captiva - no longer in Australia anyway). Maybe when they go electric most of the gremlins - gearbox, engine - will have evaporated.
Opinions being inconsistent around the world regarding some cars is obviously also due to the fact that the quality will differ depending on what factory they were built in and of course where the car was used. Example: Germany has strict rules regarding periodic inspections so most cars will have to be well maintained if people want to keep them on the road. Also never touching a Land Rover. That and Nissan were the only two brands that I've actually called unreliable even compared to an Audi that caused problems but would never leave you stranded.
I've brought a nissan xtrail 2015 from a dealer with 98ks on it and had to change the cvt transmission on it. Luckily I was in warranty and hopeing I won't have any more issues with for the next 5 years I took a gamble coz I love the car and it was within my budget.i wanted to get the transmission oil flushed at the nissan dealer but they wouldn't recommend it or do it at all they say Is its lifetime but with no clear timeline what so ever.any suggestions from owners of t32 are welcome
Cannot help laughing along the list. Close friends have(had) Land Rover / Range Rover (early Disco 4 was relatively better than others, Disco 5 looks utterly shit btw), Merc ML/GL, F15 X5, Q5/SQ5, CVT Pathfinder, X-Trail, plus I’ve driven a loaner F25 LCI X3 for months, I really know this list is the car brand/model to avoid at any cost - the blacklist! Thanks, Adam and the team. Really my after dinner entertainment 😂
I'm predictably and annoyingly going to wave the flag for the Land Rover Freelander 2 again. I've got one of the last ones they ever built (2014) so they'd ironed out most of the kinks. Never had an issue, and it's just a wonderful car- even while getting on to nine years old, now. I'd never, ever buy any other Land Rover product, however. I think the Freelander 2 is a bit of a unique case (despite what Jim says 🙂). Anyway, the unicorns are out there, if you look (and are lucky)...
Worked for JLR in 2015 when we were selling the last of the Freelanders and would have to agree. As far as JLR went, they were pretty good. Still got that Land Rover badge on it though unfortunately.
"A Fool And Their Money Are Easily Parted" - Car Dealers everywhere. People get the cars they deserve. If one is too stupid to even Google a model there's simply no helping them.
What do YOU consider to be the worst SUV on the used car market today? 🚙 Let us know down below!
Worst SUV is the Hyundai Tucson. Ugly, outdated, poor quality. It’s as the Aussies like to say it… “shit”.
You've covered the list pretty well. I'd also include the Fiat Freemont and any Jeep/Dodge SUV.
x5 enjin in the Ineos?
All of them!
@@sampats2157 for a vehicle that has a wait list of 12-18 months, Toyota must have done something right
Every time he said Captiva my brain autocorrected to Craptiva.
At this point they should change the name to that!
No shit, I once saw a Craptiva catch fire on the M5.
@@ReDriven It's a pity that there's nobody left at Holden to make the names change official.😥
A friend of mine loves his Craptiva. He's had it since new and has been a good car with very few issues, apart from being on his 3rd AC compressor and 2nd alternator. Minor issues and all replaced under warranty luckily. He does have a Toyota beater as a second car just in case.
A bloke I know has a tee shirt with the caption: Land Rover: making drivers into mechanics for 70 years.
I joined an Everest owners group when i was considering getting a brand new one, glad i did, so many horror stories.
Gearboxes, torque converters, engines, ecus, adblue systems, rust in the doors of 4yo cars...
The common phrase when someone says they're having an issue: "yeah, its common, do a search"
Yep. Surprised they weren’t on the list.
Lucky for you Pretz - Adam’s report is spot on and as I’m in my senior years and can tell you to avoid Ford, Jeep, LandRover, Holden, GMC, RAM, European, Chinese (cheap for a reason), Indian and UK brands - if it’s not built in Japan avoid it with the exception of woeful Nissan ‘Renault’ - I’ve owned many Subarus and now Toyotas due to more off-road requirements and they’ve been very reliable with a good service/support culture - also avoid VW/Skoda/Audi as they’re all cousins with numerous long term issues - the new Mitsubishi Outlander is a rebadged Nissan XTrail so avoid that too.
@@johnnumbat9782I think I’ll buy a push bike 😂
@@redpepper7181 yes my friend there’s little choice now 😔 but I’ve actually bought an EBike as an alternative transport - check out the NCM Milano 👀
Yet they reviewed favourably by Redriven. I guess you have to account for the sales/popularity of various cars and how noisy pissed off owners can be.
The original xtrails were gold. Had one for 13 years. Got it up to 390,000kms. And yep, like he said, Head gasket went. Spewing I didn’t get it to 400k!
I work for Audi in Australia and I can confirm they are shocking we have a “Audi grave yard” waiting on parts and most of the time it’s a few grand to fix if not in the 10s. Not worth it if you don’t have warranty they will break down and cost you thousands for repairs. That stands for most Audis
I love the subtle comedic approach to the reviews from both the presenter and the mechanic that shows up in som videos. Great job guys. 👏
I'll save you 15 minutes.
#1 Nissan Pathfinder
#2 BMW X5
#3 Nissan X-Trail
#4 Audi Q5
#5 Mercedes GL Class
#6 Land Rover and Range Rover products (skimmed this bit. they might've specified models)
#7 Holden Captiva
Thumbs up if helpful.
Concerning #6, all of them. Just avoid that entire brand.
Thanks it really helped 😂😂😂
Should of included the Jeep Grand Cherokee another nightmare wrapped under so called prestige. Don’t fall the jeep & Nasty for nothing.
Haha, for sure..2003, window, wiring loom shorting out, a/c control module issues. Followed by a 2013 diesel that shat the alternator at 100thou kms and developed overheating issues, which could be resolved by turning the heater to full warm😅
Love the v8 burble of the 03 4.7..Superb long distance drive and economy in the WK2 3l VM motori engine..
New ones i agree. But i had a 96 Laredo 4L 6, 17 years daily driver & not once left me stranded.
Was waiting for the Jeep to make an appearance. Surprised it didn't
@@craigparker4108 Nice anecdote.
Should have, not should of.
Wherjagotaskool.
I had a Series II 3.0 V6 2014 Captiva, bought it new had it for six years with absolutely NIL issues at all. By April 2020 I felt my good luck was going to run out and I tried to trade it in at a Holden dealership, they didn't want it, not did they believe me when I told them I had zero problems with it.
hahaha. That has to be the ultimate insult :D
Yep pretty much as expected, ironically we have a discovery sport HSE brought new in 2015. Its been a solid car, 122k on the clock no mechanical issues or electrical. We've done all the servicing timing belt and water pump done last service. So there can be good news stories.
I had a Nissan T31 with a manual transmission and never had an issue with it. I always had it serviced as per the manual and sold it privately with the buyer saying he had never seen one in such good condition. I couldn't see the advantage of the T32 so moved to another brand and now glad I did.
Renault is the nail in the coffin for Nissan
Too true, their GTR is in desperate need of revision and the latest Z is far too pricy new. That and they keep putting out cars with their Rubbish CVTs
W/O Renault 20 years ago Nissan would already died
We hoped for French styling and Japanese build and reliability.
This is clearly not what happened.
@MrLurchsThings that's what happens when they hired a dodgy French CEO who was notoriously good @ Cost-cutting (alot of the $ saved allegedly went into his own pockets)
My father had a 2008 Renault Laguna and it was pretty much bulletproof mechanically. A highly refined 2.0 diesel engine, that sounded better than pretty much any other diesel of it's day (including premium brands), a very reliable classic 6 speed auto and ok interior and my father was prefectly happy with his car. We are in Romania (eastern europe), but the car was imported from Germany, usually cars made for Germany have a higher quality
2 that deserves to be on the list is are the Dodge Nitro and the Mercedes X Class. For the X Class my dad was talking to a bloke who bought one straight off the lot and one the way for the free 1k service the front wheel assembly blew up and locked the front wheels stopping it dead in its tracks as well as electrical gremlins galore so he traded it onto a land cruiser.
With the Craptiva a few things that'd be safer than driving one are;
Tap dancing in an minefield
Drag racing in a shopping trolley
Skinny dipping with pacu fish
Smoking near a leaking gas tank.
Brilliant video guys and look forward to Friday's video as always 👍.
An x class? You'd think sharing a platform with the nissan navara that would be a safe pick. I guess not.
@@bayerischemotorenwerke7584 yeah you'd think but nope.
Landcruiser could very well be on the list as well.
A mate only just got his relatively new 200 serries back after it was off the road for 10 months because the sunroof leaked and water got into the wiring. Neither Toyota nor the dealership he bought it from would honour the warranty. It was a $40,000 repair bill.
There was also a second one in the dealership for the same problem and for a similar length of time.
It's very rare for Land Cruisers to have serious issues, especially when new. The one I heard of with engine issues was bought used, and it was neglected by the previous owners.
You know that you're getting old when you can remember when German cars were the pinnacle of quality and Japanese cars were considered second rate.
You know your getting old when German made tools 🔧 were second rate.
as my father said
Not really Japanese so much as you mean Asian, Japanese start off with scooters and motorcycles. Hence Honda, without western influence I highly doubt they would've ever entered into the car market.
Audi Q5 is lovely to drive. Spilled some water from a bottle on the back seat, it went down the buckle hole under the seat. Apparently there a computer module right under, not covered at all. Better yet it sits in an open housing that holds water around it. Not much to say but that it completely shut down the car and waiting 2 weeks for the part for lots of $$$ and Audi said 🤷🏻♂️
Isn’t the Q5 a Tiguan under the skin?
@@yslee1401no
@@yslee1401 Q3 is a Tiguan / Golf and Q5 is a Macan
There is a recall for that electronic module and the fix is essentially a plastic bag to protect it from spills.
Great show,I have a 2017 Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE Black Edition 120 000 kms,no issues whatsoever,always serviced on time.
Ditto there 2010 2.7 320kms 3rd timing belt plus fresh set of Pirelli Scorpions going on next month. Btw theres several getting around Central Vic now north of 600k’s. The new Prado doesn’t even come close. Enjoy.
Not everyone of these vehicles will have problems, just all of them.
What’s happening to German luxury brands is a catastrophe. The 1970s and 1980s Mercedes Benz cars were built like mobile bank vaults. The E series cars of that era were seen going strong in war zones decades after being made. Crying shame! The only solution is Lexus I reckon.
Not surprising given most of these German SUVs are not made in Germany.
Where they're made is irrelevant, the rubbish engineering is universal.
Recession of the 90s and purchasing by General Motors, Daimler, and other parent companies led to cost reductions and part’s sharing.
Luxury cars don’t exist anymore. You just pay the cost of whatever you like. That cost is either up front, or in the form of maintenance later.
Hey Adam,
Loving the work you do. Would you consider a story on whether kei cars and vans are fun enough to overcome the limitations of a real life Matchbox or Hotwheels car? I love the Copen, later model Move, and HiJet 4wd vans. Fuel economy, fun looks and quirky handling vs no warranty, no spares and tiny, tiny engines.
Great request mate and we're quite literally filming a Suzuki Alto Works tomorrow and a Honda NBox and Suzuki Spacia in a few weeks with more Kei cars coming. - AK
A few years ago, before I knew anything about cars or even had watched TH-cam about them I nearly bought a Captiva.
Even without knowing anything I somehow sensed during test drive the general bodgyness of it and backed out.
Am on my 4th BMW X5 (2020 model).
Never had a problem (apart from dash rattles in a 2006 model).
I sold that one with 130,000km and the buyer did over 400,000 km without a major problem.
My previous 2012 model had 150,000km when I sold it privately.
I see the new owner who loves the car and no problems.
I always get my cars serviced regularly by a European car specialist or BMW while under warranty.
Look after your cars people and your car will look after you.
2016 Audi SQ5 completely issue free in 2 years. After sitting in it you’ll never want to look at Toyota, Ford, Nissan, Honda ever again that have plastic interiors terrible sound isolation and performance for grandpas
My dad owned the 2009 Xtrail and it ran a good 300K + km without major issues before being sold!
I had a manual 2007 diesel Captiva and it didn't miss a beat. That was until I hit a kangaroo. Did nearly 300k on the dial. Used it as a daily drive (120km a day) and on the farm. I truly miss it.
Our local garage owner who services and repairs all makes told me if you must have a European car, buy it new (or better still lease it) and get rid of it before the warranty runs out.
I have the 2015 Captiva, Engine died at 76K Now the engine light is always on, even after service. It now has 300K and needs new struts, lower control arms. rear rotors and has a few electrical issues. Can't wait to trade that in.
Can't wait to trade it in....mate.
No offence, they probably won't trade....😅
I had a 2013 X-Trail and I loved it but had the transmission completely shite itself. The transmission specialist said it’s a very common problem and he is kept in business by the x-trails 😢 shame because until it happened I was in love
Pre 2014 Q5 had a quiet recall but not recall, where the DSG would stall on takeoff sometimes. Was cured with a software update when a customer complained…
I have a 2010 L320 RR Sport 5.0 V8 petrol. I bought it in 2022 as a company car and its my daily driver. I do 20,000 urban km per year. Apart from a new water pump and consumables like brakes and tyres which needed doing at the time of purchase, it has been faultless. Having had 3 previous L320s, I knew what I was buying. I also own a service and repair workshop specialising in Euro vehicles so it's thoroughly inspected and serviced every 5,000 km. Get a good one and they are magic.
You had me until 'I also own a service and repair workshop...' 😀
I wish I could get a well mantained RRS, but this is almost like playing russian rulette, you never know until you get it, so thinking about getting a nothing-fancy FJ cruiser
@@christiancarrizo6607 A nice FJ was on my shopping list too.
@@ianbrown4242 Yeah, it takes the worry out of old RRS ownership 😀
Bloke across the road had a GL63 from new - always serviced on time at the Merc dealer. It was about 6 of 7 years old when the whole front end collapsed- Merc wanted $25k to fix it.
One that nobody seems to know about is the Mazda Skyactiv-D engine sold on the CX-5, CX-8, and 6. Head gaskets, injectors, oil pump chains, DPF are all very common issues. Jump on trade me sort by CX-5 diesel lowest price there's always a few of these scrap heaps.
Only just started watching your channel and so much great info. I had a Merc ML absolutely dreadful, have SL350 now and minor issues mainly the service and parts in FNQ. Getting a used 4x4 end september and this may not have made up my mind it certinally made up mind that my dreams are shattered on a range rover ( all people said I was stupid) and cars not what to get.
I've owned a t31 X-Trail. For the last 7 yrs. I would say it's not to bad in regards to issues. But in saying that I would never touch Nissan again that qr25de engine is a engine that really could of been engineered alot better. Nissan's demise came from Carlos Gohan stealing and embezzling funds from both Nissan and Renault this heavily affected Nissan. I'm just glad I bought the manual.
Yes ‘ads’ it’s a shame he did such reputational and economic damage to what was a good brand - I owned a 1972 Datsun 1200 Coupe, 1976 180B, Nissan Skyline ‘Godzilla (sold to buy a house) which were all rust free, reliable and great to drive - we all know the CVT issues and other items have basically killed the brand now despite the Patrol and Navara being very good vehicles.
@@johnnumbat9782 yep the td42 was well engineered engine. Very reliable. I do agree with you there
Incorrect.
Nissan was on its knees in the 1990s.
Renault saved its arse. If it wasn't for Carlos Ghosn Nissan (and Mitsubishi) would no longer be making cars.
@@68404 so it's ok to steal from money from the company you work for. Even tho you say he saved Nissan and Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi and Nissan could not save them selves and Renault engines are one of the most unreliable peices of crap aswell.
And it wasn't just Carlos who embezzled the cash the some of the board members did to buy Carlos was the ring leader. And no one can deny that
Many Renault diesels (like the 2 litre dci) have clocked over 1 million kilometres. Their petrol egines from the 1990s are powering millions of Dacias and Lada.
Which Renault engine is 'one of the most unreliable peices(sic) of crap?'@@adsconlabouring
I'm going to have to ad the Ford Territory. Mine and others have just hit 10-12 years old and are falling apart! In the last 2 years, the diff cracked, 3 door actuators failed (so couldn't lock the doors), the hinge on the boot cracked and the plastics inside the car are now brittle and falling apart. A month ago I had to replce the main ECU computer! Mine has only 143000km on it
Territory.
If you don't know how to pull it apart the car shows you how.
You didnt mention oxygen sensor errors on the Xtrail. My friend had one and he would get a check engine light ever so often with that code. On that note we both owned Nissans of that era and we were plagued with those issues. One mechanic even told me he makes a sustainable living dealing with Nissan check engine lights alone.
I note the engine issues with the Q5 Diesel but surprised to see that the VW equivalents didn't get a mention
I was certain the Grand Cherokee would be on this list, until I heard no USA cars.
🤣🤣🤣 at 13:50 that was just great mate I almost put my 2012 manual transmission FJ Cruiser up for sale on the used market 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Say have you filmed a review on the 2018 new shape Peugeot 3008 GT line 1.6L auto ?
are they any good
I am looking at one of these for 6500 AUD:
2009 Audi Q5 2.0 TFSI.
Engine has been rebuilt with new main and big end bearing, conrods, pistons/ring, oil pump, timing gear, cam bridge, balance shafts and oil squirters.
Also has new water pump, alternator and starter motor.
The down side: It has an engine light for 'lean bank 1' which is either the catalytic convertor or oxygen sensors;
Leather interior
Runs well.
80% tyres. Registered until Nov 24.
Is it worth it? I’m willing to spend some money to fix the engine light (did some research and should be able to get it done for 1k maybe) but being the engine rebuild does it make it more reliable?
I had a 1st Gen SQ5 made in Germany. Was bloody bulletproof , different transmission, turbo, suspension, brakes. Far better than the other Q5s.
Thanks
Thank you!
I would have mentioned the Nissan Murano, but it's not exactly internationally available. However, since the Pathfinder is on this list, and the Murano is similar, that will do.
i can vouch for land rovers suspension issues mainly the air bag ones. since i do alignments on them i need to set it on normal mode, but some of them refuse to work
We had a t31 xtrail adventure from 2012 till 2021. Not many issues but there was the shuddering. The cvt was garbage to use. I prefer the old school auto gearbox
family friends dropped like 200 grand on a Range Rover. Had a full refund inside 3 weeks after all of the electronics flogged out while they were going 110km/h and the driver became the passenger.
Very honest and accurate report Adam - as I’m in my senior years and can tell you to avoid Ford, Holden, GMC, RAM, European, Chinese (cheap for a reason), Indian and UK brands - if it’s not built in Japan avoid it with the exception of woeful Nissan ‘Renault’ which is a shame because they were a good brand (owned a Godzilla and Nissan Patrol) - I’ve owned many Subarus and now Toyotas due to more off-road requirements and they’ve been very reliable with a good service/support culture - also the new Mitsubishi Outlander is a rebadged Nissan XTrail so avoid that too - Mercedes drivers are well known for their ‘status’ waving and nostalgia for their home country where Mercedes are prevalent as Beirut taxis - a bit comic considering what pieces of garbage these vehicles are.
You care absolutely correct. You are a numbat.
Just bought an ICE 2019 Outlander and was watching this, praying my car wasn’t next on the list. Phew!
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2020 Mitsubishi Outlander ES ZL Auto AWD MY20, Mileage 90k. Has 2.4l petrol engine.
Badge snobbery has a lot to answer for with those expensive European cars on this list. Give me my cheap and reliable Japanese car any day.
$7,600 1997 lexus es300 in 2023, just need to replace the radiator and that’s it’s and it’s not even urgent. just a bit leaky. done 190,000kms so i’m not too fussed but yeah, never going near any european cars… like ever or any GM products
@@yeahnah1762I love stories like this. Can’t beat well engineered and well-made. Hell, can’t beat peace of mind either!
Hah, except two cars out of the first three are Japanese, and the Holden Captiva is Korean... this list seems to cover most main car manufacturing countries.
I Had a Craptiva for 4 years (2013 Diesel version )and somehow it was reliable for me.
Some DPF warning issues that a longer drive sorted out.
The thing is - I heard so much bad stuff that I was never able to fully relax as an owner. Sold it for OK money in the COVID used car price inversion and moved to a 2019 Subaru Outback Premium.
- what a contrast in ride and engineering - and it was nice to not be waiting for a breakdown.
I hope the new owner had a good run out of it too. It must have been the legendary CRAPTIVA Unicorn version.
So yeah! - just off to buy a lottery ticket now.
is the premium outback luxurious?
If your Outback is diesel, watch out still for DPF issues. A mate from work just had to flog of his wife's 3-year old outback beacause of it. Subaru wouldn't do anything under warranty...
@@cliffbooth4826 its completely and utterly excellent. Leather seats, heated if you want - drive fantastically and I have taken it places off road that has surprised the Landcruisers that were also there.
@@oddoken I got out of DIesel after the Captiva and went to Petrol. Diesel makes sense if you are doing country ks - Problem is that dealers and manufacturers don't do enough to educate their customers who buy them. Diesel if a definite no no for the City. Diesels pre 2011 ish were ok because they didn't have to have the dpf systems fitted. Its a complicated situation!
I'm so lucky with my E70 40D. its been good to me, Now sitting at 220,000kms, however I know the previous owner had issues with the DPF a few times. She would always do short city drives causing tyeh filter to block up. Now it drives in the rural area's its been amazing. Having said that, It's been serviced every 10,000kms from new, not the BMW recommended intervals. I do have the Boot rattle as you have mentioned in your review of the X5 though but to be expected when you let the yanks build!
I really like the X5, it's a shame theyre so unreliable.
Most of them are pretty good. I know 3 people who swear by them and have never had major issues, 2 of which have had a couple of X5s each.
Indeed well maintained examples have significantly less issues.
Most X5 are leased and abused. If you own one from new and take care of it then it's fairly reliable, but it's not a Honda and never will be
Very surprised the Tiguan wasn't on this list considering how much you shat all over that car in your review! P.S. review my 2014 Audi SQ5 TDI...I'm in Sydney!
I love my Q5 😢
Albeit I did experience a few electronic gremlins, mainly glitchy warning lights when nothing was wrong, some weird transmission cut outs and rubber seals wearing out on one of the doors 😅
Despite this it’s an awesome car. So lovely to drive & fuel efficient.
If you bought it new it's fine. Audis (like BMW's) are good if you fully maintain them
Our B8.5 A4 (virtually the same as the 2nd generation of Q5) has the odd glitchy warning light as well. Tends to be after we get very hot or very wet weather.
Really enjoying this Channel!
Agree with the list. Except I was hoping to see Hyundai Kia. Holden is also quite garbagy because they were rebadged Daewoos. Nissan can be quite bad with the older ones, however I think their reputation has improved with the newer stuff.
Kia & Hyundai have improved greatly over the years. Most built after 2014 are very reliable.
@@tlevans62 It’s too much of a hit or miss. I know people who’ve had luck with them and even more that had major problems with them. I can’t really think of them as reliable.
If I have a car as dreary as a craptiva or xtrail the least they could do is being reliable. Incidentally I'll put the third gen rav4 on there for being surprisingly shit for a Toyota. In laws had a lot of expensive troubles.
It always makes me laugh how people think Renault made Nissan not reliable. I work for Renault and the big problem of the alliance with Nissan is not sharing anything contrairy to people opinion. That was the main reason for the alliance almost falling apart in 2020
ZD30 sexable chocolate……..
Yeah we love our Renaults. Oils filters and batteries.
Renaults are awesome. Can't wait for the Dacias to come out here although ATECO will destroy the brand as they usually seem to do.
Having worked in a Nissan Dealership, I disagree with the XTrail seen them with 100s of thousands of ks on them with no issues.
Before watching im gonna go with Captiva and nissan with cvt
What really annoys me is how the Jatco CVT has been such a disaster and now it’s the only transmission available in some models. The Mitsubishi Outlander is a perfect example. 10+ year old Outlanders will be piled up at wreckers everywhere with failed cvts
What is really important to know and would be nice to be added to videos like this - do all of the mentioned issues happen even after facelift?
Which of them? Out of experience, I've seen cars perform much, much better in their later years, usually after facelift.
I currently own a Mercedes ML63 ( same era as this GL class) and it is a dumpster fire. Sure it's got over 500hp and sounds amazing when on full tilt but there are so many factory faults it's mind blowing. Never again will I buy a Mercedes or any other European vehicle.
I've only had good things from my T30 and T31 Xtrails. I've seen a few oil burning similar generation Rav4's, though, so I wouldn't necessarily give them a free pass based on the Toyota reliability reputation thing. It's hard to fault a K powered CRV, though.
Land Rover Discovery Sport with the Ingenium engine. Euro 6 just killed the ICE. Not quite fair, but I wouldn't own a modern Land Rover without a warranty. I'm on LR number 5. It's a love/despair thing.
I was doing some trade work on a blokes house in early 2000's. He was in marketing for Audi and asked me if as a tradie does a 4x4 audi sound like a thing for Australia. I didnt know jack about cars but said yeah, that sounds awesome. Sorry Australia 😂
Thanks for the info! Seems I was right to be suspicious about how many used Holden Captiva are available at the moment. Your advice is appreciated!
You guys need to ream the Mazda CX-5 Diesel 2.2l variants! They have gotten off way too easy
You gotta be specific. Those so called British Brand Land/Range Rover are actually Tata Land Rover. Tata core business for transport is heavy vehicles called lorries based out of India in the British lingo
So what? What has that got to do with anything? 😵💫 This is about LR SUVs not heavy trucks.
Designed and built in UK. The ownership is irrelevant.
Love your content. Best format and information for used vehicles I've seen. I'm in the US and would appreciate a 'special' on American brands if you ever have the opportunity. Keep up the good work!
We'd actually love to travel to the US and film a few weeks of specifically American vehicle content. - AK
these videos just get better and better - solid list!
Funny enough (or accurately enough), I remember seeing someone's Instagram story, he actually saw and recorded 3 Captivas breaking down on the highway in one day. Maybe it doesn't matter if it's a local-spec or overseas-spec, a Craptiva will always be a Craptiva.
(In which, spoiler alert, is now crappier, since it's essentially a rebadged Chinese crossover.)
What annoys me most, is the lack of focus on the look of the car?
the holden transmission lasted 7000k when brand new started to to leak fluid and was internal damaged crack the housing they didnt wanna fix it saying it hit something it was BS good thing Holden is dead for good
BMW X5, driven past one on fire. About a month later, saw the results of another. That self combusted....scary
What's worse than the Craptiva owner who has never had a problem and loves the thing?
The Craptiva owner who has had a shitload of problems and still thinks it's a great thing.
I know one.
He also swears Land Cruisers are rubbish so your jibe at the Craptiva's intro made me laugh.
And people thought vapor lock and an electric fuel pump prone to overheating in the Lucas fuel injection in the Triumph 2.5 PI was so complicated... piffle compared to these heaps of boring junk
i love the list very spot on i work in the automotive industry and i knew that the nissan xtrail n pathfinder suffer from cvt issues and captivas they havent had a good wrap ever... now any captiva that is traded in at work is now wholesaled out because not worth keeping.. most euro cars aint that good when they get on with age if they are not looked after
oh gosh how many hit the market as soon as the owners had hit the 50,000km lease end. Couldn't get out of them quick enough.
CVT issues extend to the 2011 Xtrail too
The N57 is in literally millions of cars. So is the ZF box. Seems a bit stupid to suggest there's a problem with the X5. Either those engines and boxes would be failing in all vehicles or, maybe, it's just isolated incidents in cars getting on a bit. They do big miles with wide service intervals
You just saved me Thousands. I was looking at a Captiva yesterday.
So mainly Nissan, then Audi, Mercedes, Land Rover and Holden (Captiva - no longer in Australia anyway).
Maybe when they go electric most of the gremlins - gearbox, engine - will have evaporated.
How about any early vw products. Like the touareg or tiguan. Or early Porsche cayenne
Opinions being inconsistent around the world regarding some cars is obviously also due to the fact that the quality will differ depending on what factory they were built in and of course where the car was used. Example: Germany has strict rules regarding periodic inspections so most cars will have to be well maintained if people want to keep them on the road.
Also never touching a Land Rover. That and Nissan were the only two brands that I've actually called unreliable even compared to an Audi that caused problems but would never leave you stranded.
The Parthfinder of this model was made in the USA! The R51 was made in Spain and a better car.
I've brought a nissan xtrail 2015 from a dealer with 98ks on it and had to change the cvt transmission on it. Luckily I was in warranty and hopeing I won't have any more issues with for the next 5 years I took a gamble coz I love the car and it was within my budget.i wanted to get the transmission oil flushed at the nissan dealer but they wouldn't recommend it or do it at all they say Is its lifetime but with no clear timeline what so ever.any suggestions from owners of t32 are welcome
Great Channel!
Also the Hyundai/Kia 2.4 GDI engine is terrible. You can find it on the Santa Fe and ix35.
I dont know why Captiva is hated. I own facelifted diesel Captiva for 10 years and it is pretty reliable. It is still our family daily drive.
A very good list. However you could include anything Mercedes Benz from 2001 onwards.
Cannot help laughing along the list. Close friends have(had) Land Rover / Range Rover (early Disco 4 was relatively better than others, Disco 5 looks utterly shit btw), Merc ML/GL, F15 X5, Q5/SQ5, CVT Pathfinder, X-Trail, plus I’ve driven a loaner F25 LCI X3 for months, I really know this list is the car brand/model to avoid at any cost - the blacklist! Thanks, Adam and the team. Really my after dinner entertainment 😂
One exception to the Golden Range/Land Rover rule is the Range Rover L322 series.
I'm predictably and annoyingly going to wave the flag for the Land Rover Freelander 2 again. I've got one of the last ones they ever built (2014) so they'd ironed out most of the kinks. Never had an issue, and it's just a wonderful car- even while getting on to nine years old, now. I'd never, ever buy any other Land Rover product, however. I think the Freelander 2 is a bit of a unique case (despite what Jim says 🙂). Anyway, the unicorns are out there, if you look (and are lucky)...
Worked for JLR in 2015 when we were selling the last of the Freelanders and would have to agree. As far as JLR went, they were pretty good. Still got that Land Rover badge on it though unfortunately.
Let's not forget the Fiat Freemont/Dodge Journey.
Absolutely spot on.
What do you think of GMC Acadia?
"A Fool And Their Money Are Easily Parted" - Car Dealers everywhere.
People get the cars they deserve. If one is too stupid to even Google a model there's simply no helping them.