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Meanwhile that Camry video they did, only thing I remember them saying what goes wrong (mechanically) were basically stuff that might break because it’s over 20 years, but still no “catastrophic engine failure”… 😂
My mother had one from new as a retirement gift to herself. Possibly one of the worst car she has ever owned and the dealer from a certain suburb in Vic just didn't treat her very well as a concerned customer. Just before warranty ran out she got majority of the faults repaired and palm it off to some poor sod. She got the Lexus RX350 and so far so good.
@@yeahnah1762 i get that Lexus is a tarted up Toyota but I've seen how professional the dealers are and I get why older people love them. No feeling of contempt or made to feel like an inconvenience when their product needed attention. This was Lexus Brighton so experience may differ.
@hellothere4342 The Lexus customer service experience is known to be the best of all car brands by far, along with being the most reliable car manufacturer.
@@hellothere4342they aren't tarted up Toyotas though. They're like chalk and cheese, just because they sit on the same chassis and have same drivetrains doesn't make them any way similar. I think it's an insult to Lexus craftsmanship and finish when people say they're basically a Toyota.
@ln5747 there's no insults to Lexus at all. Toyota are wonderfully engineered and built cars. Their interior are a bit crap and boring. The Lexus absolutely smashes the toyota when it comes to interior and tech hence the tarted up comment.
A mate of my nephew bought one and it broke down so often and the repairs were so costly that it literally brought tears to his eyes. It took him a while to sell it because nobody wanted it
Sorry to hear that, but one thing that most should yet don’t take in account is that is a premium category and behaves similarly as a vanguard manufacturer just like Citroen used to be. Thereby implies 2 things: if one acquires the higher spec models better become a geek on that car or having a trustworthy mechanic geek just like high spec Citröens otherwise you expect to be fooled.
an engineer i knew bought a WK2 grand cherokee and it was insane how many problems it had just at 55k miles. i’m genuinely surprised there are people who got a good experience with a newer grand cherokee. if anyone else has got to experience these cars personally, i’d like yall to share your thoughts. because i may be wrong
Ok - I don't own one of these, but reading all the absolutely irrational negative comments here, I just have to chime in because they're just not really thinking that hard. There's a reason people buy these... and they're not stupid. This thing cost 180K new, 'up front'. It's now costs $40K to purchase 'up front'. Where the bashers here are going wrong is thinking that this is actually a $40K car - it's not. It has actually depreciated pretty much in-line with most other cars - 10% per year. What people don't understand - or don't want to - is that the purchase price DOESN'T include maintenance. Which, for a huge, complicated vehicle like this will be enormous. These things are freaking Batmobiles. What this car is worth is really more like $70K. Now if I told you that you could buy a RRS for $70K, but with a warranty, you'd think it was a great deal. Because the reality is, these things absolutely sh*t all over any Lexus on the planet in terms of the actual driving experience. Sorry. The takeaway is that the drive-away purchase price isn't the actual total cost of ownership. BUT the depreciation factors that in, so you are still left with a vehicle that offers value for money. So, enough of the negative comments already. People buy these things and love them. The people who love them, spend $40K knowing they're getting a $70K vehicle and are realistic about the fact that these things absolutely require more involvement than a f**king Prado. My caveat here is that JLR build quality is wildly variable, so there are indeed lemons out there. But this doesn't reflect the total owner population. If it did, JLR would have been out of business in the 90's. These machines are designed to be an experience, not an appliance. If you meet it on those terms, and you're generally lucky, you'll love it. Han Solo loves the Millennium Falcon, after all :-)
Bingo! I’ve owned five Land rovers and my current daily Driver is 06 full-size Range Rover with 329,000 miles on it. It’s been a shit ton of work but it’s a great truck that still drives great. You just have to learn what you’re dealing with.
I bought a used 2018 Range Rover Sport 4.4L V8 Diesel, as two months into the ownership, the front end of the vehicle was vibrating, feeling it below the driver's seat at 90km/hr & over. Also, the centre console electrics was playing up. I undertook all four wheel balances & alignment, checked all tyre pressures & wheel nuts. Still had the problem. Which now meant it must be something mechanical. Possible problem with wheel ball joints, suspension including air, axle, or camshaft. Electrics possible problem either needs a software update or water leakage on wiring. Whatever, an expensive fix. I traded the vehicle after two months ownership for a new other make & brand vehicle. I lost money on the trade-in. I will never buy another Range Rover. You need to buy a service plan & extended warranty, otherwise, it simply is a money pit.
I have one of these, almost 200000km on the clock and it has been a great car, however I always service it at 13000km and I only use Mobil 1 engine oil, I have done all the big services, cam belts, water pump 3x diff services and gearbox service before the book says they need to be done and the only issues I have had in the 8 years, is the damn air suspension! Replaced the pump and air struts in the front twice, other than that, nothing, car has really been great, actually more reliable than the A4 2.0TFSI I had for 4 years
Because they weren't actually built by the owner company, they were built by JLR. While these cars invariably had some Ford bits in them they were mostly old JLR parts and assembled in the UK. When it comes to TATA ownership well, TATA doesn't have anything at all to do with these vehicles, they're basically a giant money injector into JLR and Land Rover designs, develops and manufactures the entire thing.
I agree with both these replies but it does beg the question of why someone would buy the company and not change anything fundamental about the way they operate. There is a reason why the company keeps getting sold on. The status quo is a proven failure.
@@peterj5751 because JLR are still hugely profitable and aspirational as brands, despite their reputation for unreliability and build quality. Most of that is the image and the styling.
Have a 2010 one with the diesel. Has 225000 km on it. Has had a fair bit of maintenance and repairs carried out but not outrageous for the mileage. Drives outstandingly still! Other than no door bottle holders the interior is beautiful. I’m lucky enough to do most repairs servicing myself but would buy another in a heartbeat ❤
Great video and in my opinion an honest review. I own a 2010 L320 5.0 V8 HSE (normally aspirated) which I bought used 12 months ago. Its in beautiful condition and its maintained religiously with 10,00km or 6 month services. Sure, its needed a couple of the usual issues, a replacement air suspension compressor and a water pump. I do 20,000 mostly urban km a year and it has been faultless. Of course, it drinks PULP like a drunken sailor. The RRS is not large compared to many SUVs today and is very easy to manoeuvre around town and in car parks, it has an amazing turning circle. This is my 5th RRS, 2x V6 diesels, another NA V8 which I traded for an L454 V8 Supercharged. I actually prefer the NA V8 L320 to the later L454 which is why my daily is a 13 year old L320 RRS which I enjoy driving every day.
Its no shitbox and it has plenty of resale value at the right money. As a used car dealer, I bought it cheap with only 59,000km and it was so nice I have decided to run it for a couple of years. It doesn't cost much to run as it's maintained by our Euro specialist workshop. If I sold it, I would happily give it a 12 month warranty as we know its mechanically excellent.
@@flyingrc2041 We buy plenty of Toyotas at trade prices as well or cheap in your language. Contrary to popular myth, Toyotas often need plenty of mechanical work to bring up to retail quality. Maybe people hammer them and don't think they need regular maintenance, they do, just like any vehicle. Mitsubishi vehicles seem to need the least amount of mechanical work to make retail ready so we are generally happy to buy them or take them as trade.
OMG I love these things... but thankfully I'm sane enough to admire them in other people's driveways. In other news, thanks for the pootle around Waverton. I was sat here thinking 'That looks familiar' when next thing you swing past a former address. Made my Friday night.
You forgot about the rear cupholders below the seat heaters! Took me nearly a year ownership before realizing there were cupholders in the back haha I can confirm with the electrical faults - currently having issues with a rear door lock and my power steering turns off whenever I turn on my headlights... Hoping these issues mean I won't experience any faults with the "well documented shitbox".
Thanks mate, your comment: “power steering turns off whenever I turn on my headlights” has pretty much cured me of my temptation to buy a SPORT. That’s a level of shithowsery I don’t need in my life
A friend of mine bought one some 5 years ago, after owning several BMW X5’s. He wanted a change… he got it!😵💫😱 Owned it some 6 months & it was in the dealership continually for 5 months! After several HUGE arguments/confrontations with the dealership, he actually got his full money back! And back to the X5 he went.
Interesting video. I absolutely love the look of these vehicles and they are an absolute pleasure to drive. No car manufacturer in the world does interiors like Range Rover, they are just simply stunning. Would I buy one? Not a chance in hell!
I guess a simple a to b drive in a RRS is an incredible adventure. Will you arrive without something falling off / blowing up etc. ? It must be an immense feeling of satisfaction and achievement on arriving at b, finally releasing your white knuckle grip on the fire extinguisher. Against all odds you’ve made it and that perhaps, is part of the attraction / challenge / insanity…
I saw one of these on a hoist in a specialist Range Rover mechanics, I believe it was the V6 version, and it had engine conrods hanging out everywhere. His comment was "this is the third one this month". Considering the smallish population of our region, and the relatively few you see on our roads here, that's telling me these things are to be avoided at any cost.
A colleague of mine bought a Range Rover Vogue in Adelaide new about 4/5 years ago and it died 4 times in the first six weeks!!!! He ended up getting it towed and a full refund from the dealer because it was so bad…..
I am planning to buy an 2002-2006 L322. I drive it till something expensive breaks, sell the parts and keep the chassis which I will convert to a office "desk". You can find a very short clip on YT. I risk nothing because my final goal will be to have the desk 😁😁
I messed around with Range Rovers for close on 30 years, RRC never had so much fun with my clothes on. 3.6TDV8. Awesome car until the alternator crapped out on holiday, the mechanic said “if I can’t see it I’m not fixin it” un quote. 1 RAC recovery and four days in my shed fixing it, sold the following week and bought myself a 79 series Landcruiser and haven’t looked back. Great vid, so true. Pity
They are pretty reliable once they have been sorted there are plenty repair videos and most specialists know how to to keep them running. I wish you more luck in finding the right one I have been unlucky in finding one worth buying 😅 maybe I'm too picky or too much of a shrewd negotiator 😅
honestly if you bought a 4.4 (only) it would be as reliable as any car other car. the 5.0 is expensive to own but 4.4 extremely reliable, would go as far as to say that that AJ engine was one of the most reliable car engines of this century . truly is nothing that regularly goes wrong on them other than maybe water pump blades
My father had one, had over 300k kms, besides the oil leak it never had any other problems. When he traded it in the dealer said this is the best condition range rover in that particular year model he's ever seen.
Anyone that's owned a rangy ain't gonna troll you for telling the truth about what money pitts these things are. We all know it's the truth. One of Jim's best
Had one for years, no more problematic than any other car I've had and I've had a lot of cars. The simple truth is if you buy any car with a poor service history or a service history that has been carried out by a generic service centre, not a main dealer or specialist the you will have problems. So many people buy these cars on a tight budget, have no idea the cost of maintenance and simply can't afford to maintain them. After they've had a few months of trying to impress their friends they sell it on to the next person who'll do the same and of course eventually it will cost someone big time. As far as cracking dash boards and sagging headliners, blocked sunroof drains well that happens on lots of cars.
This is honestly what bugs me, what you said has been said by multiple other Range Rover owners, and even Matt from HighPeakAutos repeats this in every Range Rover video he made, plus even in other videos you can see him cruising around in one. I'm conflicted, from one side, these cars have a lot to offer, arguably more than any other car, period, and it would be a shame to miss out on them especially since they're not very expensive (this generation), from the other, some people and videos, like this one, shit on it so much that it feels like a mistake of a lifetime. And I don't have any friends who own one, so I have to get my opinions from the internet, and make a decision based on that.
@@joebarbaro24buy a 4.4 over the 5.0 if you want the peace of mind in rock solid mechanical reliability and cheap fixes. 5.0 interior is much nicer but the engine has a lot of modern expensive problems even if reliable also
I am here to read all the comments from owners and fans claiming that Range Rovers go 500k with only an occasional oil change and windshield washer fluid top-up and how they make Toyota Land Cruisers look like high mileage badly maintained Yugos reliability/durability-wise.
I just sold my 2010 here in the states after 1 year of ownership. Bought with 101k miles 12 months ago. Worst vehicle I have ever had the displeasure of owning in my life, never ending problems. Like never ending, something always broken
I remember the time I saw this beautiful range Rover full size and it was going real slow with his hazard lights on and I wondered how is he may be talking on the phone or or looking at the houses in my neighborhood but then a few minutes later when I returned from the market I noticed the tow truck parked in front of it Beautiful cars though what a shame
I gave up smoking, but I still love the 12v cigarette lighter socket. Great for easy set up of after-market stuff like Dash-Cams, so please don't abuse car makers for retaining the 12v outlet. You can use it to power a mini-drink cooler that goes between the seats. You can get 12v other ways, like run from the fuse box, or the OBD socket, but not as easy to be neat with those arrangements.
lads.. the irony is, I don't smoke!! I just hate arrogant people who think they're better than others.. in the past, AK said he was mocking his 'mates' but I reckon they think smokers are just scum, and as I said.. I don't like arrogance
@@cliffbooth4826 I wish I had never started smoking, but my parents smoked when I was born, until the need of their days. I don't think anti-smokers are arrogant really. Maybe a few are, but most are just appalled at the waste of lives. I gave up for 3 years, and now I am a non-smoker again for six months. My health is not the best, but slowly improving, I won't get it all back. The good news is that you save heaps of money if you give up. I still dream of smoking, but when I wake up, I feel a bit guilty for smoking in my dreams, but I think that is great because it motivates me to remain a non-smoker.
Interesting fact..A RR Sport was professionally converted, at huge cost, into a two-door (similiar to the image @ 01:03) by an American company and featured on TV...eventually found its way to Dubai, where today, it still sits all rotted, in the back of an abandoned carpark.
Had one (3 liter diesel), took it off road, through rivers about 80cm deep, through mud, gravel, and many miles. The car never missed a beat, but as any European car they require proper, expensive and timely maintenance. Forget cheap parts or cheap mechanics, if you can’t afford a new one don’t get a used one either. Find a good Indy mechanic and buy one with good maintenance and it’s just like any BMW or MB.
Sold these things for a year or so. Felt guilty every time someone drove away in one. Worse the next day when it came back on the flatbed truck! The most beautiful cars on the road, but the biggest piles of shite! How are they still so bad after all these years?!
Kudos to those who have the cojones to buy them and not complain when they break. Life's too short for boring drives - so all power to you. But this great vid does remind me of the old saying (from that ancient time before anyone knew what a meme or trope was...): If you want to go into the Outback, buy a LandRover. If you want to come back, buy a Landcruiser. (And before all the anti-LC brigade have a go at me, nah I don't own either. I drive Alfas and the missus has the "notorious" Gen-5 Subaru Forester - her third).
LOL that mechanic was spot on!! That being said, there's just something about that sport supercharged engine... I'm keeping mine (2010 L320) till it blows up!! 😂😂 💪💪💪✌️
Recently teamed up with two Army mates in Canberra to travel from there to Pukapunyal army base ( i0 kliks N, Melbourne). Our chariot, 10 tear old Sport. Lovely colour scheme ( duck egg metallic, grey leather) and in parade order, as you would expect. As the back seat passenger, at 185 cm, I was relaxed, cosseted and had no complaints after 12 hours long haul, return. No gremlins mechanically, which is unsurprising as the three of us are militarily obsessive on maintenance. So, a dream run. However, with flash interiors and "safety" features excepted, my 22cyear old Toyota Prado would do the same at a doddle at 185,000 kliks. It refuses to die, even with three serious attempts by fsmily members( no service for 18 months during a long off shore contract for me, for instance). Yes, cosmetically well worn and the interior not so plush. But, the front seats have not sagged and remain like supportive, lounge like chairs of immense comfort, the air conditioner works as if new, the radio/ stereo still pumps out music and news and the materials resist two generstions of kinder. When I asked the local Toyota Service Manager if I sgould trade in at 1e5,000 k., his response was, " Nah, run it into the ground"( that usually does not happen before 350, 000k, or beyond) So, no feally good reason to retire a perfectly functional, useful vehicle. Can you prdict what the Sport ,s condition at similar distance covered? Perhaps a Prado re- drive is suggested by this performance?
Did Jim do the English footballer safety features list😂😂😂. I always wonder how the abysmal quality issues are never rectified and yet they keep on selling them, it's just not good enough 😒
The Magpie at the start of the video 🚙🐦⬛ 😂 If these Range Rovers were as reliable as they are good looking, they would be awesome... No way I would own one.
Uncle had one (TDV6)... Was good for four years when the engine nuked itself due to the crankshaft . Then got a brand new engine for free and did not have any problems from then.
Jim... you are both hilarious and I am sure an excellent mechanic. I love the way you deliver the news... good and (mostly) bad. Happy to use the links to support the channel in lieu of being able to buy you a beer.
My 06 RR Sport Supercharged was in immaculate condition when I sold it with 237k on it! Only thing it needed was a sunroof seal .. it started to leak a little. But I only replaced: battery, alternator, serpentine belt, a couple of hoses, and converted to regular suspension. Key broke of course, radio did start to not play sound sometimes, brakes go fast because of the weight I guess. Those are the only issues I’ve ever had. I absolutely would buy another one! 06-09 are the most reliable.. 2010-2013 are beautiful, very QUICK, with great features, but aren’t reliable 😫😫
Had a family friend who had one and while it was a nice car too drive it was Jim said on borrowed time when they got it. Reason I say that is it had the air suspension issues mentioned as well as air con go on it and before those to the infotainment system glitch out and play havoc on the car's security system as it would lock/unlock doors at random, pre start the motor, turn lights on and off at will and a host of other stuff. After the air con got fixed they traded it for a Tiguan which in turn got traded for a i30 wagon. One fault i noticed that wasn't mentioned is that the cruise control system not always resetting or allowing you too alter the set speed when you want. It looked like yourself and Hullsy were going to have breakdowns when going over the what goes wrong section. Overall enjoyable video as always guys and congrats on breaking 160k subscribers 🎉. Have a good weekend and I look forward too next week's videos as per usual 👍.
I had it explained to me in the following terms. Every component in a RRS is built to be perfect, but when you put them together, its a bag of spanners.
I just swapped my 5 series BMW for a same age Range Rover Sport 5 litre supercharged V8, 502bhp. If you are serious about owning such a car, you have to be prepared to take good care of the vehicle mechanics. I wish that here in tropical Singapore the repairs would be as inexpensive as TH-camrs from UK and Australia are mentioning. Here’s about 5-10x the cost, not mentioning the purchase price. But it’s all worth it.
"Terrain response that responds to terrain" ah yes a bit like cruise control that controls cruising or lane assist that assists in keeping lanes or adaptive lights which adapts the lights, airconditioning which conditions the air, emergency brake assist which assist in braking when in an emergency situation, keyless entry which makes you enter the car keyless, traction-control which controls traction,....
There is the true comment: if you want to drive to outback Australia, drive a Range Rover. If you want to drive back, get a Toyota. Great video Adam and Jim, thanks. I will still buy a Lexus. Hmmm, I seem to be saying that a lot about your videos.
I have been an autotech for over 40 years specialising in prestige vehicles. I have worked for landrover and I have to inform the reader that landrovers are not equipped with cigarette lighters, they are infact complimented with cigar lighters
Another very informative video by ReDriven. It is beautiful looking car (I was so tempted). But after watching 'what goes wrong' section, I definitely will never get one LOL
I was thinking to buy this car as I love size and practicality of them. I'm sooo pleased I watched this. I'd buy a Mercedes ML350 in a heartbeat if it were well cared for.
Mechaincally the RRS is a Discovery 3 or later ones are a Discovery 4, so failures are the same across the models. The most common engines in the early ones is the 2.7lt turbo diesel and the later series is the 3.0lt turbo diesel. Both plagued with complete engine failures, engine oil cooler failures, the later 3.0lt cracked inlet manifolds (both sides eventually). These are the most common engine faults and are expensive. Complete engine failures pretty well end the vehicles life as used running engines with low km's are hard to source. Engine rebuilds are expensive and are proving to be short lived at best. Awesome vehicles to drive both on and offroad when they are still running. The conclusion just like your video is to not buy one, keep up the great honest videos guys.
My daughter bought 2, the first one was beautiful,,,, when it ran. She had a few problems with it and the dealer wasn’t really interested in fixing it.,, when it was due for a replacement, she had no intention of buying another but the dealership changed ownership, and persuaded her that the new one was great and the service levels would be MUCH better…… You guessed it.. they were even worse. She’s gone back to Audi, who to be honest are only marginally better. But her current car,, RS Q8 is amazing,, (and brutally rapid)
10 years ago, a neighbour (Ozzie) of ours had a diesel Defender and a series 2 V8 Discovery. Although this fella was a mechanic, he worked in the office. His days off were full of "outs". Diffs, engines, transmissions, suspension...... I made comment one day. "You didn't buy these to drive, did you?" These days he drives a G Wagon, and she drives a Landcruiser 300.
A friend in our group bought one. we love going off road in the week ends. first year, no issues. expensive maintenance. 2nd year, we all driving in the deserts, with land cruizers, pajeros and your tipical f-150. His....breaks. 1 month repair. And the sht hole continues. Its never fully repaired. Always has issues. 2 months a year it lives in a garage. and no clue how many weeks. best thing, he refuses to sell it. and we just get free entertainment at his joy when it works and at his despair when it breaks.
The review is dead on. I bought a 2013 RRS Autobiography 7 years ago. I loved every minute driving it. It went from problem free to huge problems one after another…moon roof broke, dash cracked and pealed, infotainment system went down then finally the timing chain😫. The original sticker was 96k. I bought it for 36k in 2018. It is now ready for retirement at 138,000 miles. Firenze Red with a red and black interior…a great love…I’m going to miss her.
The host is correct… I have a newer sport with the V8, it drives amazing well and it feels solid … however, my extended warranty company lost their ass on my car… 125k warranty cost 10k, and has paid 38k.
Some guys n gals love to be seen driving / OWNING a RANGE ROVER BUT ARE TOO TIGHT & MEAN TO SPEND ON REGULAR 10,000 OIL SERVICE SERVICE.?.. BREAK PADS & BRAKE DISKS WHEN NEEDED NO THE WAIT TILL THE PADS / SHOES ARE DOWN TO METAL AS I SAID YOUR CAR IS ,AS YOU RESPECT IT AND DRIVE IT . THE 2011 YOU ARE SHOWING IS IMMACULATE, INSIDE & OUT & YOU CAN SEE THAT ALONE BY THE INTERIOR ❤❤❤❤ IT.
After looking at many many examples of cars these days in particular via Adam's reviews I have come to the conclusion that manufactures don't give a stuff about quality control. It doesn't matter what brand you purchase they all have major issues that the poor consumer has to live with. It's such a shame that we can't rely on manufactures to do what they are supposed to do and that is producing a vehicle that does the job it was designed for.
@@ReDriven yes but not the best looking vehicles , you can tell a Japanese car with the body shape and busy interior , they really dont age well and how many old Japanese cars look this good today probably non.
Like to politely inform everyone that the post update cars aren’t as old as the pre update ones. Also 40k for a 12 year old car? No thanks, don’t care how much it cost new.
Own not a Sport but a poverty pack with leather 2010 Disco 4 2.7 closing in on 385km. 2 compressors in 13 years the rest usual wear items only. I’m now suffering PTSD and feeling like an outlier after listening to this. Its a magnificent beast btw.
Before I retired I’d eat up some pretty big Ks on Southern NSW roads, I saw heaps on Range Rovers and Land Rovers in their natural environment, on the back of recovery trucks.
Wanna know a secret..You can have brand new tyres on a budget for these Range Rovers. What you do is you find a set of 20's or 21's that someone has got and upgraded, (they would have got a set of black 22's or 23's) so you buy the wheels with new continentals etc off facebook. Then when the tyres are shagged you sell them for almost what you bought them for and repeat. These wheels also fit Gen 1 Amarok. Range Rover Rim Arbitrage. I've had so many sets!
I own a Lexus 450H. Nuff said. I've always loved the look of the Rangies. Never driven one and I'm glad about that because I'm a sucker to fall in love. But also being a bit of a tightarse, there's no way I'd keep a Rangie past it's first catastrophic failure especially after owning many Toyota Products. I just don't know how people do this to themselves.
A friend of mine brought a v8 twin turbo diesel with 90k on the clock. 5 years later when he sold it for 1/3 of what he paid he totally up the repair costs .. $60k. Nice to drive though. Now he has an Isuzu and is happier.
Great review of an awesome vehicle. Fully agree with all your comments, up until the horror stories. I get that many people have had bad experiences, but I am one of the lucky ones who has had a dream run. I owned a Discovery 4 from new and out 300k on it, before it met an untimely end with a high speed tangle with a herd of steers asleep in a dip. Like the RRS, the disco had a bad wrap for reliability, but again I had a dream run. My RRS is a 2012 SDV6, and I have had it for 7 of its 11 young years. I keep it well maintained using indie mechanics, and I do a lot of maintenance myself. I’ve owned Holdens, Fords, Mazdas, Toyotas and Nissans, and honestly they all had issues, and still cost plenty if you wanted to keep them in top shape. My opinion is the L320 RRS is the best 4x4 value for money on the market. I tow a 3.2T van regularly, I also go off road seriously, and she scrubs up beautifully after each trip. Happy they have a bad wrap cause we get to keep all the fun to ourselves!
They love to be maintained but unfortunately some buyers do not do even the general oil change , I know people that dont even do oil service on basic cars. Also if you buy diesels you really need to give it a good run out and use good fuel , most diesels will give you issues if you dont do the milage , just give them a good run out now and then. I have owned Bmw's , vw's and mercs that have given me issues , take my Merc it only had 30,000 and the time chain stretched ( always had it serviced ) I was lucky I heard the rattle and not like some people keep running it I took it to a specialist and just needs a chain. My Bmw 29,000 miles on the clock and the clutch went along with a sensor and the vw endless engine light coming on all the time.
I own one and was able to fix some things. Lower control arm, coolant sensor, air suspension issues, coolant crossover pipes. Don't get into one, unnecessary headaches n money pits
2nd December 2023 I drove past the Range Rover dealership on Melrose drive Phillip. On the central reservation was a RR Evoke covered in fresh lemons. Real ones like from the supermarket. Must have been a story there
@@daweigo6851 sarcasm buddy. Pointing out that even with that warranty Doug’s car spent more time in the shop then being used. Quite a few cars id reconsider if that was available here.
i owned one.....never again, mine was build by a blind chimp, even the mechanics at the dealership couldnt believe some of the problems i had, air suspension ECU failed, valve train failure due to timing chain "jumping", injectors, wheel bearings and transmission leak, all at 70,000KMS (2014 sport model 5L v8)
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One of those videos when you know the answer but you're in for the journey
Literally woke up saw this video and said to myself,”this should be funny” 😅
The journey was entertaining
*hovers over video* Half of video is under 'What goes wrong'
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Bet analytics of 'where people are skipping to' will be skewed
Spoiler alert!! 😂
Meanwhile that Camry video they did, only thing I remember them saying what goes wrong (mechanically) were basically stuff that might break because it’s over 20 years, but still no “catastrophic engine failure”… 😂
@@mrx168you can’t compare a Camry to a Range Rover. Try taking a Camry on back, rocky country roads when the snow is 2ft deep.
My mother had one from new as a retirement gift to herself. Possibly one of the worst car she has ever owned and the dealer from a certain suburb in Vic just didn't treat her very well as a concerned customer. Just before warranty ran out she got majority of the faults repaired and palm it off to some poor sod. She got the Lexus RX350 and so far so good.
yessss Lexus for the win 💪💪💪😎
(jokes aside, i’m glad she got rid of her car cause 😬😬)
@@yeahnah1762 i get that Lexus is a tarted up Toyota but I've seen how professional the dealers are and I get why older people love them. No feeling of contempt or made to feel like an inconvenience when their product needed attention. This was Lexus Brighton so experience may differ.
@hellothere4342 The Lexus customer service experience is known to be the best of all car brands by far, along with being the most reliable car manufacturer.
@@hellothere4342they aren't tarted up Toyotas though. They're like chalk and cheese, just because they sit on the same chassis and have same drivetrains doesn't make them any way similar. I think it's an insult to Lexus craftsmanship and finish when people say they're basically a Toyota.
@ln5747 there's no insults to Lexus at all. Toyota are wonderfully engineered and built cars. Their interior are a bit crap and boring. The Lexus absolutely smashes the toyota when it comes to interior and tech hence the tarted up comment.
A mate of my nephew bought one and it broke down so often and the repairs were so costly that it literally brought tears to his eyes. It took him a while to sell it because nobody wanted it
Sorry to hear that, but one thing that most should yet don’t take in account is that is a premium category and behaves similarly as a vanguard manufacturer just like Citroen used to be. Thereby implies 2 things: if one acquires the higher spec models better become a geek on that car or having a trustworthy mechanic geek just like high spec Citröens otherwise you expect to be fooled.
The best part of a Jeep Grand Cherokee or one of these is when you hear a friend bought one. You know it’s going to be a juicy saga
Pure evil we are- LOL
thats something a psychopath would say
an engineer i knew bought a WK2 grand cherokee and it was insane how many problems it had just at 55k miles. i’m genuinely surprised there are people who got a good experience with a newer grand cherokee. if anyone else has got to experience these cars personally, i’d like yall to share your thoughts. because i may be wrong
😂😂😂👍
@@juki6377No, that’s just something us Aussies would say! 😂😂. We love teasing our mates (but at the same time, we’ll always help each other out) 👊🏻
I’m a former Land Rover Service and Parts Manager my SUV is an X5 BMW I think this should answer everyone’s questions!
Yhooo😮
Jim mentions the word ' catastrophic ' more the the CFA chief on a total fire ban😅.
😂
Haha. Brilliant. This is why I love TH-cam comments
Ok - I don't own one of these, but reading all the absolutely irrational negative comments here, I just have to chime in because they're just not really thinking that hard. There's a reason people buy these... and they're not stupid.
This thing cost 180K new, 'up front'. It's now costs $40K to purchase 'up front'. Where the bashers here are going wrong is thinking that this is actually a $40K car - it's not. It has actually depreciated pretty much in-line with most other cars - 10% per year. What people don't understand - or don't want to - is that the purchase price DOESN'T include maintenance. Which, for a huge, complicated vehicle like this will be enormous. These things are freaking Batmobiles.
What this car is worth is really more like $70K. Now if I told you that you could buy a RRS for $70K, but with a warranty, you'd think it was a great deal. Because the reality is, these things absolutely sh*t all over any Lexus on the planet in terms of the actual driving experience. Sorry.
The takeaway is that the drive-away purchase price isn't the actual total cost of ownership. BUT the depreciation factors that in, so you are still left with a vehicle that offers value for money.
So, enough of the negative comments already. People buy these things and love them. The people who love them, spend $40K knowing they're getting a $70K vehicle and are realistic about the fact that these things absolutely require more involvement than a f**king Prado.
My caveat here is that JLR build quality is wildly variable, so there are indeed lemons out there. But this doesn't reflect the total owner population. If it did, JLR would have been out of business in the 90's. These machines are designed to be an experience, not an appliance. If you meet it on those terms, and you're generally lucky, you'll love it.
Han Solo loves the Millennium Falcon, after all :-)
Bingo! I’ve owned five Land rovers and my current daily Driver is 06 full-size Range Rover with 329,000 miles on it. It’s been a shit ton of work but it’s a great truck that still drives great. You just have to learn what you’re dealing with.
I bought a used 2018 Range Rover Sport 4.4L V8 Diesel, as two months into the ownership, the front end of the vehicle was vibrating, feeling it below the driver's seat at 90km/hr & over. Also, the centre console electrics was playing up.
I undertook all four wheel balances & alignment, checked all tyre pressures & wheel nuts. Still had the problem. Which now meant it must be something mechanical. Possible problem with wheel ball joints, suspension including air, axle, or camshaft. Electrics possible problem either needs a software update or water leakage on wiring.
Whatever, an expensive fix. I traded the vehicle after two months ownership for a new other make & brand vehicle. I lost money on the trade-in.
I will never buy another Range Rover. You need to buy a service plan & extended warranty, otherwise, it simply is a money pit.
The interior has nice ambience thanks to the warm glow of the engine check light and other warning lights.
😂
And don't forget so many number of cost maintenance....
You can be a great mathematician with that thing...
I have one of these, almost 200000km on the clock and it has been a great car, however I always service it at 13000km and I only use Mobil 1 engine oil, I have done all the big services, cam belts, water pump 3x diff services and gearbox service before the book says they need to be done and the only issues I have had in the 8 years, is the damn air suspension! Replaced the pump and air struts in the front twice, other than that, nothing, car has really been great, actually more reliable than the A4 2.0TFSI I had for 4 years
Air suspensions are a pain in all vehicles.
How is it that a vehicle manufactured variously by Ford, BMW and TATA somehow manages to retain its British Leyland reliability heritage
right? you think they could change if they tried. i guess they have razer thin profitability
Because they weren't actually built by the owner company, they were built by JLR. While these cars invariably had some Ford bits in them they were mostly old JLR parts and assembled in the UK. When it comes to TATA ownership well, TATA doesn't have anything at all to do with these vehicles, they're basically a giant money injector into JLR and Land Rover designs, develops and manufactures the entire thing.
I agree with both these replies but it does beg the question of why someone would buy the company and not change anything fundamental about the way they operate. There is a reason why the company keeps getting sold on. The status quo is a proven failure.
@@peterj5751 because JLR are still hugely profitable and aspirational as brands, despite their reputation for unreliability and build quality. Most of that is the image and the styling.
@@TheStigHCE09it’s now Tata Land Rover
Have a 2010 one with the diesel. Has 225000 km on it. Has had a fair bit of maintenance and repairs carried out but not outrageous for the mileage. Drives outstandingly still! Other than no door bottle holders the interior is beautiful. I’m lucky enough to do most repairs servicing myself but would buy another in a heartbeat ❤
Yea that's good, it's still worth nothing now. You will pay in maintenance or depreciation, it's a shitbox so why buy one?
Jim says you’re on borrowed time
Hey hey.... That's a big difference between Land Rover and Land cruiser....
I have a 2006 4.2L supercharged model and its never broken down once.
Great video and in my opinion an honest review. I own a 2010 L320 5.0 V8 HSE (normally aspirated) which I bought used 12 months ago. Its in beautiful condition and its maintained religiously with 10,00km or 6 month services. Sure, its needed a couple of the usual issues, a replacement air suspension compressor and a water pump. I do 20,000 mostly urban km a year and it has been faultless. Of course, it drinks PULP like a drunken sailor. The RRS is not large compared to many SUVs today and is very easy to manoeuvre around town and in car parks, it has an amazing turning circle. This is my 5th RRS, 2x V6 diesels, another NA V8 which I traded for an L454 V8 Supercharged. I actually prefer the NA V8 L320 to the later L454 which is why my daily is a 13 year old L320 RRS which I enjoy driving every day.
Why risk buying a shitbox? Even if you don't have an issue with it, they have NO resale value.
Its no shitbox and it has plenty of resale value at the right money. As a used car dealer, I bought it cheap with only 59,000km and it was so nice I have decided to run it for a couple of years. It doesn't cost much to run as it's maintained by our Euro specialist workshop. If I sold it, I would happily give it a 12 month warranty as we know its mechanically excellent.
@timcollins380 yea my point exactly. U got it cheap with only 59k. Try buying a Toyota cheap with 59k in the clock?
@@flyingrc2041 We buy plenty of Toyotas at trade prices as well or cheap in your language. Contrary to popular myth, Toyotas often need plenty of mechanical work to bring up to retail quality. Maybe people hammer them and don't think they need regular maintenance, they do, just like any vehicle. Mitsubishi vehicles seem to need the least amount of mechanical work to make retail ready so we are generally happy to buy them or take them as trade.
Yes you can buy an ugly ,poor ride,inferior design Toyota.And never have to service it.But you will not love it
OMG I love these things... but thankfully I'm sane enough to admire them in other people's driveways.
In other news, thanks for the pootle around Waverton. I was sat here thinking 'That looks familiar' when next thing you swing past a former address.
Made my Friday night.
the 4.4 engine is extremely reliable and inexpensive mechanically to own, but never the 5.0
You forgot about the rear cupholders below the seat heaters! Took me nearly a year ownership before realizing there were cupholders in the back haha
I can confirm with the electrical faults - currently having issues with a rear door lock and my power steering turns off whenever I turn on my headlights... Hoping these issues mean I won't experience any faults with the "well documented shitbox".
Damn it, I knew I forgot something! - AK
…and the fridge in the centre console😊,quite handy in hot weather .
Thanks mate, your comment: “power steering turns off whenever I turn on my headlights” has pretty much cured me of my temptation to buy a SPORT. That’s a level of shithowsery I don’t need in my life
Good to see Jim on the screen for this long! Hopefully he gets some days off after so much work in front of the camera for this video! 😅
A friend of mine bought one some 5 years ago, after owning several BMW X5’s. He wanted a change… he got it!😵💫😱 Owned it some 6 months & it was in the dealership continually for 5 months! After several HUGE arguments/confrontations with the dealership, he actually got his full money back! And back to the X5 he went.
I know it's been said a bunch of times before.. Please feature that Escort behind Jim, if practicable, going forward. And great episode.
Another vote here for escort review. Tech safety and practicality should be a short segment haha
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 another vote for that
Yes please, episode on the Escort.
The Escort's were a bloody brilliant little car, and values are now just ridiculous. A lot have been converted as race and rally cars.
Waiting for the Escort as well as I own two of them.
Interesting video. I absolutely love the look of these vehicles and they are an absolute pleasure to drive. No car manufacturer in the world does interiors like Range Rover, they are just simply stunning. Would I buy one? Not a chance in hell!
I guess a simple a to b drive in a RRS is an incredible adventure. Will you arrive without something falling off / blowing up etc. ? It must be an immense feeling of satisfaction and achievement on arriving at b, finally releasing your white knuckle grip on the fire extinguisher. Against all odds you’ve made it and that perhaps, is part of the attraction / challenge / insanity…
5.0 sc. Owned many many years now. Nothing to report only it's a wonderful car.
I saw one of these on a hoist in a specialist Range Rover mechanics, I believe it was the V6 version, and it had engine conrods hanging out everywhere. His comment was "this is the third one this month". Considering the smallish population of our region, and the relatively few you see on our roads here, that's telling me these things are to be avoided at any cost.
A colleague of mine bought a Range Rover Vogue in Adelaide new about 4/5 years ago and it died 4 times in the first six weeks!!!! He ended up getting it towed and a full refund from the dealer because it was so bad…..
I am planning to buy an 2002-2006 L322.
I drive it till something expensive breaks, sell the parts and keep the chassis which I will convert to a office "desk".
You can find a very short clip on YT.
I risk nothing because my final goal will be to have the desk 😁😁
"Well documented $8itbox" 😅 Had me dying.😂
This is by far the most amusing car channel on the internet
I messed around with Range Rovers for close on 30 years, RRC never had so much fun with my clothes on. 3.6TDV8. Awesome car until the alternator crapped out on holiday, the mechanic said “if I can’t see it I’m not fixin it” un quote. 1 RAC recovery and four days in my shed fixing it, sold the following week and bought myself a 79 series Landcruiser and haven’t looked back. Great vid, so true. Pity
I love you guys. Such thorough and brilliant delivery. Glad to see the channel growing. Keep it up, gents!
Thanks so much mate! - AK
I've always had a soft spot for these, and the full-fat Vogue models... but not any more!
Will a Range Rover replace your AU Falcon? 😂
Or maybe an Intech swapped Range Rover 😂
I might be able to afford one of these one day despite it’s flaws. Hopeful that the Music career takes off 😂
They are pretty reliable once they have been sorted there are plenty repair videos and most specialists know how to to keep them running. I wish you more luck in finding the right one I have been unlucky in finding one worth buying 😅 maybe I'm too picky or too much of a shrewd negotiator 😅
@@lutha1720 haha a shrewd negotiator isn’t a bad thing!
honestly if you bought a 4.4 (only) it would be as reliable as any car other car. the 5.0 is expensive to own but 4.4 extremely reliable, would go as far as to say that that AJ engine was one of the most reliable car engines of this century . truly is nothing that regularly goes wrong on them other than maybe water pump blades
Imagine if Chinese car manufacturers could make their cars this reliable..
My father had one, had over 300k kms, besides the oil leak it never had any other problems. When he traded it in the dealer said this is the best condition range rover in that particular year model he's ever seen.
Sounds like your dad actually kept up with the maintenance and not skip the odd one
Anyone that's owned a rangy ain't gonna troll you for telling the truth about what money pitts these things are. We all know it's the truth. One of Jim's best
Had one for years, no more problematic than any other car I've had and I've had a lot of cars. The simple truth is if you buy any car with a poor service history or a service history that has been carried out by a generic service centre, not a main dealer or specialist the you will have problems. So many people buy these cars on a tight budget, have no idea the cost of maintenance and simply can't afford to maintain them. After they've had a few months of trying to impress their friends they sell it on to the next person who'll do the same and of course eventually it will cost someone big time. As far as cracking dash boards and sagging headliners, blocked sunroof drains well that happens on lots of cars.
Spot on
This is honestly what bugs me, what you said has been said by multiple other Range Rover owners, and even Matt from HighPeakAutos repeats this in every Range Rover video he made, plus even in other videos you can see him cruising around in one. I'm conflicted, from one side, these cars have a lot to offer, arguably more than any other car, period, and it would be a shame to miss out on them especially since they're not very expensive (this generation), from the other, some people and videos, like this one, shit on it so much that it feels like a mistake of a lifetime. And I don't have any friends who own one, so I have to get my opinions from the internet, and make a decision based on that.
@@joebarbaro24buy a 4.4 over the 5.0 if you want the peace of mind in rock solid mechanical reliability and cheap fixes. 5.0 interior is much nicer but the engine has a lot of modern expensive problems even if reliable also
I am here to read all the comments from owners and fans claiming that Range Rovers go 500k with only an occasional oil change and windshield washer fluid top-up and how they make Toyota Land Cruisers look like high mileage badly maintained Yugos reliability/durability-wise.
Perfectly summed up.
Land Rover: “All sorts of sh*t happens”.
BMW = finally a worthy opponent....
Range rovers are night mares do not buy one😢
Quality comment
i bought one in february this year, and it’s been in the shop ever since
I just sold my 2010 here in the states after 1 year of ownership. Bought with 101k miles 12 months ago. Worst vehicle I have ever had the displeasure of owning in my life, never ending problems. Like never ending, something always broken
I remember the time I saw this beautiful range Rover full size and it was going real slow with his hazard lights on and I wondered how is he may be talking on the phone or or looking at the houses in my neighborhood but then a few minutes later when I returned from the market I noticed the tow truck parked in front of it
Beautiful cars though what a shame
I gave up smoking, but I still love the 12v cigarette lighter socket. Great for easy set up of after-market stuff like Dash-Cams, so please don't abuse car makers for retaining the 12v outlet. You can use it to power a mini-drink cooler that goes between the seats. You can get 12v other ways, like run from the fuse box, or the OBD socket, but not as easy to be neat with those arrangements.
These guys look down their noses at smokers.. all the way from their high horses. so arrogant
@@cliffbooth4826 Just stop smoking dude, it's gross.
@@cliffbooth4826 I got to agree with Adam, smoking is a really bad habit.
lads.. the irony is, I don't smoke!! I just hate arrogant people who think they're better than others.. in the past, AK said he was mocking his 'mates' but I reckon they think smokers are just scum, and as I said.. I don't like arrogance
@@cliffbooth4826 I wish I had never started smoking, but my parents smoked when I was born, until the need of their days. I don't think anti-smokers are arrogant really. Maybe a few are, but most are just appalled at the waste of lives.
I gave up for 3 years, and now I am a non-smoker again for six months. My health is not the best, but slowly improving, I won't get it all back.
The good news is that you save heaps of money if you give up.
I still dream of smoking, but when I wake up, I feel a bit guilty for smoking in my dreams, but I think that is great because it motivates me to remain a non-smoker.
Interesting fact..A RR Sport was professionally converted, at huge cost, into a two-door (similiar to the image @ 01:03) by an American company and featured on TV...eventually found its way to Dubai, where today, it still sits all rotted, in the back of an abandoned carpark.
Had one (3 liter diesel), took it off road, through rivers about 80cm deep, through mud, gravel, and many miles. The car never missed a beat, but as any European car they require proper, expensive and timely maintenance. Forget cheap parts or cheap mechanics, if you can’t afford a new one don’t get a used one either. Find a good Indy mechanic and buy one with good maintenance and it’s just like any BMW or MB.
I've got 1 its done 300k & has never gone wrong & it's the best car I've ever had 😂
Sold these things for a year or so. Felt guilty every time someone drove away in one. Worse the next day when it came back on the flatbed truck! The most beautiful cars on the road, but the biggest piles of shite! How are they still so bad after all these years?!
Kudos to those who have the cojones to buy them and not complain when they break. Life's too short for boring drives - so all power to you.
But this great vid does remind me of the old saying (from that ancient time before anyone knew what a meme or trope was...): If you want to go into the Outback, buy a LandRover. If you want to come back, buy a Landcruiser.
(And before all the anti-LC brigade have a go at me, nah I don't own either. I drive Alfas and the missus has the "notorious" Gen-5 Subaru Forester - her third).
Good to see Jim on the screen for this long!))))
LOL that mechanic was spot on!! That being said, there's just something about that sport supercharged engine... I'm keeping mine (2010 L320) till it blows up!! 😂😂 💪💪💪✌️
Recently teamed up with two Army mates in Canberra to travel from there to Pukapunyal army base ( i0 kliks N, Melbourne). Our chariot, 10 tear old Sport. Lovely colour scheme ( duck egg metallic, grey leather) and in parade order, as you would expect. As the back seat passenger, at 185 cm, I was relaxed, cosseted and had no complaints after 12 hours long haul, return. No gremlins mechanically, which is unsurprising as the three of us are militarily obsessive on maintenance. So, a dream run.
However, with flash interiors and "safety" features excepted, my 22cyear old Toyota Prado would do the same at a doddle at 185,000 kliks. It refuses to die, even with three serious attempts by fsmily members( no service for 18 months during a long off shore contract for me, for instance). Yes, cosmetically well worn and the interior not so plush. But, the front seats have not sagged and remain like supportive, lounge like chairs of immense comfort, the air conditioner works as if new, the radio/ stereo still pumps out music and news and the materials resist two generstions of kinder. When I asked the local Toyota Service Manager if I sgould trade in at 1e5,000 k., his response was, " Nah, run it into the ground"( that usually does not happen before 350, 000k, or beyond)
So, no feally good reason to retire a perfectly functional, useful vehicle. Can you prdict what the Sport ,s condition at similar distance covered?
Perhaps a Prado re- drive is suggested by this performance?
Correction;
"80 kliks N..."
" 185, 000..."
Longest Redriven episode yet! Congratulations RR owners
Did Jim do the English footballer safety features list😂😂😂. I always wonder how the abysmal quality issues are never rectified and yet they keep on selling them, it's just not good enough 😒
I've been sooo conflicted about the RR Sport - great video team!!!
The Magpie at the start of the video 🚙🐦⬛ 😂
If these Range Rovers were as reliable as they are good looking, they would be awesome... No way I would own one.
Uncle had one (TDV6)... Was good for four years when the engine nuked itself due to the crankshaft . Then got a brand new engine for free and did not have any problems from then.
Jim... you are both hilarious and I am sure an excellent mechanic. I love the way you deliver the news... good and (mostly) bad. Happy to use the links to support the channel in lieu of being able to buy you a beer.
My 06 RR Sport Supercharged was in immaculate condition when I sold it with 237k on it! Only thing it needed was a sunroof seal .. it started to leak a little.
But I only replaced: battery, alternator, serpentine belt, a couple of hoses, and converted to regular suspension. Key broke of course, radio did start to not play sound sometimes, brakes go fast because of the weight I guess. Those are the only issues I’ve ever had.
I absolutely would buy another one! 06-09 are the most reliable.. 2010-2013 are beautiful, very QUICK, with great features, but aren’t reliable 😫😫
Had a family friend who had one and while it was a nice car too drive it was Jim said on borrowed time when they got it. Reason I say that is it had the air suspension issues mentioned as well as air con go on it and before those to the infotainment system glitch out and play havoc on the car's security system as it would lock/unlock doors at random, pre start the motor, turn lights on and off at will and a host of other stuff. After the air con got fixed they traded it for a Tiguan which in turn got traded for a i30 wagon.
One fault i noticed that wasn't mentioned is that the cruise control system not always resetting or allowing you too alter the set speed when you want.
It looked like yourself and Hullsy were going to have breakdowns when going over the what goes wrong section.
Overall enjoyable video as always guys and congrats on breaking 160k subscribers 🎉. Have a good weekend and I look forward too next week's videos as per usual 👍.
I had it explained to me in the following terms. Every component in a RRS is built to be perfect, but when you put them together, its a bag of spanners.
I just swapped my 5 series BMW for a same age Range Rover Sport 5 litre supercharged V8, 502bhp. If you are serious about owning such a car, you have to be prepared to take good care of the vehicle mechanics. I wish that here in tropical Singapore the repairs would be as inexpensive as TH-camrs from UK and Australia are mentioning. Here’s about 5-10x the cost, not mentioning the purchase price. But it’s all worth it.
I just came here to hear Jim say shitbox.
"Terrain response that responds to terrain" ah yes a bit like cruise control that controls cruising or lane assist that assists in keeping lanes or adaptive lights which adapts the lights, airconditioning which conditions the air, emergency brake assist which assist in braking when in an emergency situation, keyless entry which makes you enter the car keyless, traction-control which controls traction,....
There is the true comment: if you want to drive to outback Australia, drive a Range Rover. If you want to drive back, get a Toyota. Great video Adam and Jim, thanks. I will still buy a Lexus. Hmmm, I seem to be saying that a lot about your videos.
Beautiful looking vehicle, but it's a massive pass. Great presentation, thank you.
I have been an autotech for over 40 years specialising in prestige vehicles. I have worked for landrover and I have to inform the reader that landrovers are not equipped with cigarette lighters, they are infact complimented with cigar lighters
The fancier in car smoking device!
Another very informative video by ReDriven. It is beautiful looking car (I was so tempted). But after watching 'what goes wrong' section, I definitely will never get one LOL
Love the Range Rover. The driving experience and off road ability is awesome. Might as well experience the thrill and love on to a D4
I was thinking to buy this car as I love size and practicality of them. I'm sooo pleased I watched this. I'd buy a Mercedes ML350 in a heartbeat if it were well cared for.
Mechaincally the RRS is a Discovery 3 or later ones are a Discovery 4, so failures are the same across the models. The most common engines in the early ones is the 2.7lt turbo diesel and the later series is the 3.0lt turbo diesel. Both plagued with complete engine failures, engine oil cooler failures, the later 3.0lt cracked inlet manifolds (both sides eventually). These are the most common engine faults and are expensive. Complete engine failures pretty well end the vehicles life as used running engines with low km's are hard to source. Engine rebuilds are expensive and are proving to be short lived at best. Awesome vehicles to drive both on and offroad when they are still running. The conclusion just like your video is to not buy one, keep up the great honest videos guys.
Also you know It's gonna be fun video - When the "whats goes wrong" is half of the show... you know It's fun..
My daughter bought 2, the first one was beautiful,,,, when it ran. She had a few problems with it and the dealer wasn’t really interested in fixing it.,, when it was due for a replacement, she had no intention of buying another but the dealership changed ownership, and persuaded her that the new one was great and the service levels would be MUCH better…… You guessed it.. they were even worse. She’s gone back to Audi, who to be honest are only marginally better. But her current car,, RS Q8 is amazing,, (and brutally rapid)
What does your daughter do? Sounds like she's doing very well for herself based on the cars she's getting.
Get a good one if its possible to find one, then it should be ok. But if you get a shocker , it's a pain financially to keep going
10 years ago, a neighbour (Ozzie) of ours had a diesel Defender and a series 2 V8 Discovery. Although this fella was a mechanic, he worked in the office.
His days off were full of "outs". Diffs, engines, transmissions, suspension......
I made comment one day. "You didn't buy these to drive, did you?"
These days he drives a G Wagon, and she drives a Landcruiser 300.
A friend in our group bought one. we love going off road in the week ends. first year, no issues. expensive maintenance.
2nd year, we all driving in the deserts, with land cruizers, pajeros and your tipical f-150. His....breaks. 1 month repair. And the sht hole continues. Its never fully repaired. Always has issues. 2 months a year it lives in a garage. and no clue how many weeks.
best thing, he refuses to sell it. and we just get free entertainment at his joy when it works and at his despair when it breaks.
The review is dead on. I bought a 2013 RRS Autobiography 7 years ago. I loved every minute driving it. It went from problem free to huge problems one after another…moon roof broke, dash cracked and pealed, infotainment system went down then finally the timing chain😫. The original sticker was 96k. I bought it for 36k in 2018. It is now ready for retirement at 138,000 miles. Firenze Red with a red and black interior…a great love…I’m going to miss her.
The host is correct… I have a newer sport with the V8, it drives amazing well and it feels solid … however, my extended warranty company lost their ass on my car… 125k warranty cost 10k, and has paid 38k.
Some guys n gals love to be seen driving / OWNING a RANGE ROVER BUT ARE TOO TIGHT & MEAN TO SPEND ON REGULAR 10,000 OIL SERVICE SERVICE.?.. BREAK PADS & BRAKE DISKS WHEN NEEDED NO THE WAIT TILL THE PADS / SHOES ARE DOWN TO METAL AS I SAID YOUR CAR IS ,AS YOU RESPECT IT AND DRIVE IT . THE 2011 YOU ARE SHOWING IS IMMACULATE, INSIDE & OUT & YOU CAN SEE THAT ALONE BY THE INTERIOR ❤❤❤❤ IT.
I felt Jim was particularly savage in this video…
They really are amazing cars. Cheap to buy expensive to own.
Our motto is. Theres a cost to owning the best 4x4xfar.
After looking at many many examples of cars these days in particular via Adam's reviews I have come to the conclusion that manufactures don't give a stuff about quality control.
It doesn't matter what brand you purchase they all have major issues that the poor consumer has to live with. It's such a shame that we can't rely on manufactures to do what they are supposed to do and that is producing a vehicle that does the job it was designed for.
A few do give a stuff mate, they're generally all from Japan. - AK
@@ReDriven yes but not the best looking vehicles , you can tell a Japanese car with the body shape and busy interior , they really dont age well and how many old Japanese cars look this good today probably non.
2016 RRS. Best car I’ve ever had
Like to politely inform everyone that the post update cars aren’t as old as the pre update ones.
Also 40k for a 12 year old car? No thanks, don’t care how much it cost new.
That bird just casually strolling in at 2:06 is super funny
Own not a Sport but a poverty pack with leather 2010 Disco 4 2.7 closing in on 385km. 2 compressors in 13 years the rest usual wear items only. I’m now suffering PTSD and feeling like an outlier after listening to this. Its a magnificent beast btw.
Before I retired I’d eat up some pretty big Ks on Southern NSW roads, I saw heaps on Range Rovers and Land Rovers in their natural environment, on the back of recovery trucks.
Wanna know a secret..You can have brand new tyres on a budget for these Range Rovers. What you do is you find a set of 20's or 21's that someone has got and upgraded, (they would have got a set of black 22's or 23's) so you buy the wheels with new continentals etc off facebook. Then when the tyres are shagged you sell them for almost what you bought them for and repeat. These wheels also fit Gen 1 Amarok. Range Rover Rim Arbitrage. I've had so many sets!
Thank you for this, I almost bought one this week.. 😇
I own a Lexus 450H. Nuff said.
I've always loved the look of the Rangies. Never driven one and I'm glad about that because I'm a sucker to fall in love.
But also being a bit of a tightarse, there's no way I'd keep a Rangie past it's first catastrophic failure especially after owning many Toyota Products.
I just don't know how people do this to themselves.
Sunk cost bias
Came here for Jim's opinion 😂😂
A friend of mine brought a v8 twin turbo diesel with 90k on the clock. 5 years later when he sold it for 1/3 of what he paid he totally up the repair costs .. $60k. Nice to drive though. Now he has an Isuzu and is happier.
Great review of an awesome vehicle. Fully agree with all your comments, up until the horror stories. I get that many people have had bad experiences, but I am one of the lucky ones who has had a dream run. I owned a Discovery 4 from new and out 300k on it, before it met an untimely end with a high speed tangle with a herd of steers asleep in a dip. Like the RRS, the disco had a bad wrap for reliability, but again I had a dream run. My RRS is a 2012 SDV6, and I have had it for 7 of its 11 young years. I keep it well maintained using indie mechanics, and I do a lot of maintenance myself. I’ve owned Holdens, Fords, Mazdas, Toyotas and Nissans, and honestly they all had issues, and still cost plenty if you wanted to keep them in top shape. My opinion is the L320 RRS is the best 4x4 value for money on the market. I tow a 3.2T van regularly, I also go off road seriously, and she scrubs up beautifully after each trip. Happy they have a bad wrap cause we get to keep all the fun to ourselves!
They love to be maintained but unfortunately some buyers do not do even the general oil change , I know people that dont even do oil service on basic cars. Also if you buy diesels you really need to give it a good run out and use good fuel , most diesels will give you issues if you dont do the milage , just give them a good run out now and then. I have owned Bmw's , vw's and mercs that have given me issues , take my Merc it only had 30,000 and the time chain stretched ( always had it serviced ) I was lucky I heard the rattle and not like some people keep running it I took it to a specialist and just needs a chain. My Bmw 29,000 miles on the clock and the clutch went along with a sensor and the vw endless engine light coming on all the time.
The fans will always be enthusiastic as they paid over the odds & can't bear to admit it.
You guys should be called Hammer Auto, nailed it again.
Especially liked the Stockholm syndrome reference.
I own one and was able to fix some things. Lower control arm, coolant sensor, air suspension issues, coolant crossover pipes. Don't get into one, unnecessary headaches n money pits
2nd December 2023 I drove past the Range Rover dealership on Melrose drive Phillip. On the central reservation was a RR Evoke covered in fresh lemons. Real ones like from the supermarket. Must have been a story there
Ive never clicked so fast In my entire life.
I love these videos. Puts people off so there are more left for the rest of us lr lovers 😎😎😎
Even a “bumper to bumper” warranty doesnt keep up with these cars amazing reliability
Can't get that type of warranty in Australia
@@daweigo6851 sarcasm buddy. Pointing out that even with that warranty Doug’s car spent more time in the shop then being used.
Quite a few cars id reconsider if that was available here.
2 days ago by my self Range Rover Sport...that amazing car. Inside outside and ebginering is very good.
i owned one.....never again, mine was build by a blind chimp, even the mechanics at the dealership couldnt believe some of the problems i had, air suspension ECU failed, valve train failure due to timing chain "jumping", injectors, wheel bearings and transmission leak, all at 70,000KMS (2014 sport model 5L v8)