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Dual M.2 SATA Adapter with RAID: amzn.to/3J5YoB0
Install two M.2 SSDs into a 2.5” bay to create high-performance storage with configurable RAID
Dual M.2 SATA adapter with RAID supports SATA I/II/III (up to 6Gbps)
2x M.2 SSDs to 2.5in SATA (6Gbps) RAID adapter converter with 2.5in SATA form factor housing, provides TRIM support
Dual M.2 SSD adapter enclosure with RAID 0 and RAID 1 plus Spanning and JBOD
Broad compatibility with support for common SATA M.2 SSDs (2230, 2242, 2260, 2280) (Not compatible with M.2 NVMe or AHCI PCI-Express SSDs)
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that's a great dual nvme caddy/adapter, i hope it works on play station 4. probably raid 0 would be the choice. to show up as one disk drive, instead of two.
That is not an NVME adapter.
Also, you can just throw a 2.5 SSD in there and achieve the same speed. If you want to back up the data, just duplicate it on an external USB drive.
@ only supports NGFF drives: amzn.to/42ErGkV
How does SMART reporting work with this? I guess the better question is in a raid 1 configuration how would you know when one of the drives fail?
How is the performens after this time?
hey joe! great video, I've been searching and there aren't many about this device. The only way to know if either of the two SSDs is damaged is to disassemble the device and look at the LEDs while it is plugged in?
How do you know when one drive failes in raid 1?
Thought I could pop in and ask if there's a possible fix for a Raid 0 array for this ssd with the problem of read speeds (I'm getting a max of 20mb/s for read speeds)
@Joeteck I came across this and ordered it, have it in my hands now- The thing is I needed it to free up the M.slot on my device for others things while I have a spare sata port inside.
Now I have a small concern of not wanting to kill my system because of a mistake. but in theory it should work...
My only drive I am booting from, is currently in the M.2 slot. I bought also a twin for this m.2 drive.
Now I would take my booting drive from its original m.2 port out and put it in the caddy on position 1, the twin drice I bought I would put it in the position 2. Next I would configure it for raid 0, then plug it into the sata and start the pc- probably have to change during boot in bios that the bootdrive changed (from original M.2 to the caddy)
Should that all work like this or am I making a mistake here?
My problem is simply that I am a bit insecure as I am not just adding a drive, but changing the system drive in the process and I do not find real guidance in the original documentation of the device or the manufacturers website...
The problem is that this doesn't use NVMe m.2 drives but rather SATA NGFF. The adapter in the video uses b key to m key drives. SATA NGFF.
Does it work on PS4 Pro? I imagine it would help somewhat in the system UI and general responsiveness.
Shame not much was discussed like software, firmware, and the fact this has status led's which you cannot see, in a laptop, and the software doesnt show the status of the cards in it.
@@joeblogs5163 because there isn't..
It's a feel good feeling that you have hardware based RAID. I would use this in a NAS rather than a laptop.
Can I just plug one Samsung Nvme 970 Plus into this device and use this as an adapter in my SATA connector
No, this can only use m.2 SATA SSDs. M and B key drives only. 2 notches.
Where do you buy one
Is there product compatible with M.2 NVME ssd
No. It needs the 4x pcie for throughput. Sata, has a huge limitation of 1x PCIe. Which is achieved via the chipset
How's the performance going 5 months in? Is there a drop off in read and write speeds?
is that capable of auto rebuilding the array on raid 1 if you replace the bad SSD ?
good question. I have never had one fail since they were invented.. However I posted a question to see if Startech can answer.
go to page 6: sgcdn.startech.com/005329/media/sets/25S22M2NGFFR_Manual/25S22M2NGFFR_RAID_adapter_quick_start_guide.pdf
@@Joeteck woah then this device is awsome for DIY home NAS using mini PC
thanks btw for answering my query more power
Hello，I wish to consult you on a question,does Synology support it?
Its a startech device, why wouls Synology support it? Does it work in a Synology device? yes!
You need mode bios for adapter m2 nvme boot raid 0 pcie x16 2 ssd nvme so faster
Still, maximum throughput will be 560MBs.
How do you know if a drive fails? Can you attach external indicator lights to notify? If one drive fails can you just replace that bad drive and will it automatically rebuild the RAID? For it to be really meaningful, it has to be able to indicate there is a failed drive somehow. Or if the second drive fails, then you lose everything anyway and that defeats the purpose of having the RAID in the first place. I've dealt with both hardware and software raid over the years in Cinema Servers. Both types of RAID were extremely reliable. But if we're storing important info on this thing, one has to know what state it's in. Thanks!
does it not work like multiple ssd drives?
Need to set it up as JBOD.
@@Joeteck Could you show it?
@Diman779 not in this video, it's already done.
@@Joeteck can you show me the link to that video?
@@Diman779 No.. Impossible.
I used this in my probook 450 g7 laptop, 2tb gen4 nvme for the boot drive and 2 x 2tb gen3 nvme drives in the startech adapter JBOD. I get stupid storage and get to reuse retired drives from my desk top old system without having to muck about with multipile external usb caddies.
the version shown in this video only supports sata. can you share which model did you use for dual nvme?
Would it work to put 2 of these adapters with 2 drives each into their 3.5” converter (35SAT225S3R), and put 2 of those in a NAS?
Yes they would! Its called "RAID 10"
@ That’s exactly what I wanted to hear. Thank you.
@ But that would be running at SATA bandwidth, not NVME bandwidth, right?
@@tonybove2468 Correct. This doesnt support NVMe drives. Only NGFF SSD, so you're good. These drives: amzn.to/42ErGkV
would nvme drives possible through usb? if it can't be done through sata have 2 nvme would love to put it into raid
Its hardware raid. So it would be seen through USB..
Its work with single bay synology??
Yes it does. Which is why I created the video in the first place.
@@Joeteck but we don't know the status of second storage? Mirroring the files successfully or health of the 2nd drive right?
I guess the only advantage is that it's a hardware raid and saves space.
Only? Plus if one fails you're still in business
in term of speed wise these gonna be bad compare to PCIE one
Yeah but some motherboards only have 1-2 slots for m.2 NVMe. So adding SATA storage is sometimes your only choice. To avoid this, you would need to splurge $ on a larger capacity NVMe... But with this device, it might just be more cost-effective to buy the older m.2 SATA & use Raid 0 to get a larger capacity. Speeds, be damned. You could get 2x 4TB m.2 SATA in Raid 0 for much cheaper than the cost of a 1x 8TB m.2 NVMe.
My only gripe is: what happens if you use Raid 1 for redundancy and one of the m.2 SATA fails on you in the future, but you're unable to replace it because they've become discontinued/obsolete after everything switches to m.2 NVMe? Then you're kinda screwed.
Hi joe. Can I use this as 2 seperate drives? and can it be used in a USB external enclosure?
Yes it supports, Spanning and JBOD
Good but is there 3 in 1 splitter to add SSD + Wifi card + eGPU in one wifi card slot laptop?
Not that I am aware of. No idea how that would interface.
in that case you'll probably want a pcie breakout box instead of a pure egpu then run the ssd/wifi though that box. don't think it would be bootable from the breakout box though.
Could someone explain me please what's the difference between JBOD and SPAN modes?
JBOD, is shown in Disk management as 2 drives, SPANing is two drives as 1, not to be confused with RAID 0, it's not the same.
@Joeteck but what's the difference between SPANing and RAID0 then?..
Spanning drives are filled up in order, and raid drives are filled together; 50% each.
Say you have 100gig. In a spanned drive setup all 100gig would be placed on 1 drive it will not go to drive 2 until drive 1 is 100% full., and RAID 0 would be split, 50gig on one and 50gig on the other. RAID 0 is the fastest and both drives a read at the same time, spanning only one drive is read at one time. It's a bit confusing, but I hope I have answered your questions. And thanks for the comments
RAID 0 is the most dangerous, if one drive fails, all data is gone, however the risk is sometimes worth it. It's very very fast. I run RAID 0 on many of my systems because of the performance gains. Speed is just about doubled. SSD drives read speed is 550MBs, in RAID 0 it's just about 1100MBs. Two NVMe on RAID 0 would be close to 10000MBs or higher. This is perfect for video editing.
@@Joeteck thank you very much! It's totally clear for me now!
Hello, thank you for this video. I want to find a proper RAID adapter for two Crucial P3 CT4000P3SSD8 4 TB Solid State Drives - M.2 2280 Internal PCI Express card to be inserted into a regular SATA interface and remove my old SATA hard drive. Which adapter can you recommend?
@@oneundecided this does not support NVMe drives..
The Speed for nvme and Cooling maybe an issue.
Its not a NVMe, so heat is NOT an issue
can i use 2 m.2 nvme (M Key) devices with this?
No, M.2 SSD only.
Question: does it read 2 4TB ssd? Cause I’m looking to have a good amount of storage in my laptop, a hp probook 450 g7, have a 4TB ssd as my boot drive, looking to have either 2TB, 4TB or if this works 8TB ssd storage
@@silverzblue5246 only NGFF SATA III m.2 SSD support.
any idea if this causes thermal spin up on HPEGen8's? Running 25 of these with 50 2tb m.2 ssds instead of my 25 1tb sas mechanical would be freaking cool.
It's the Firmware engaging the "drives" to spin. However, since these are much cooler to run, the cooling fans may not turn on..
@@Joeteck the thermal spin issue up I'm referring too has nothing to do with temperature :-) the HP Enterprise fans will go from 25% to 90% when it cant read the thermals one of the 25 drives. It is pretty hit and miss with consumer drives which is why i ended up with the seagate constellation drives
I wonder if they make these in 12gb SAS that would be even more cool.. but probably cost $200 instead of what was it $40
Hi loved this video, but correct me if I’m wrong are these drives on Synology compatibility list? If not did they create any problems and is it stable and reliable. What version DSM are you running.
Doesn't matter. Worked perfectly. I could understand if it was just drive itself, but it's hardware raid, and it was awesome to see it work flawlessly!
hey joe! great video, I've been searching and there aren't many about this device. The only way to know if either of the two SSDs is damaged is to disassemble the device and look at the LEDs while it is plugged in?
@@Joeteck will it work as two ssd separately?
@@Diman779wonder if you ever found a response elsewhere? as I'm trying to do that for a 1 bay nas and use the nas software for raid 1
@@rubengr88 no one answered me
Awesome video. Would be great if there was a way it could tell you that one of the sticks went bad if using RAID 0. I don't know if you could use a custom SMART code or something out of band to talk to the OS about the health of the M.2 sticks.
Once you lose the drive, there is your indicator..
Using a dual M.2 adapter to SATA with hardware RAID can be a bit nuanced. Let's break it down:
1. **SATA Speed Limit**:
- SATA III (6 Gbps) is the standard for most SATA connections. If your dual M.2 adapter connects to SATA, it will be limited by this speed.
- NVMe drives, on the other hand, can achieve much higher speeds (up to 32 Gbps for PCIe Gen4 NVMe drives).
- So, if you're using NVMe drives through a SATA adapter, you won't fully benefit from their blazing-fast speeds.
2. **Hardware RAID**:
- Hardware RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disks) can provide data redundancy (RAID 1) or performance (RAID 0).
- However, using a hardware RAID controller with SATA adapters might not be the best match for NVMe drives.
- Hardware RAID controllers are often optimized for spinning hard drives (HDDs) or SATA SSDs, not NVMe SSDs.
3. **Considerations**:
- If you're using NVMe drives, consider a dedicated NVMe adapter or motherboard slot to fully utilize their speed.
- If redundancy is essential, you might still benefit from RAID 1 (mirroring) even if the speed isn't optimal.
- If speed is your priority, avoid using SATA adapters for NVMe drives.
In summary, while a dual M.2 adapter to SATA with hardware RAID isn't entirely useless, it might not be the best choice for maximizing NVMe drive performance. Consider your priorities (speed vs. redundancy) and choose accordingly! 🚀
Only support M AND B key SSDs.. so speed it moot.
Seems a better solution is to have 4 or 5 of these, setup in a RAID5 config on the NAS, but then use RAID 0 to double the capacity to achieve 4 or 8TB per SATA slot for less money than the outrageous 8TB SSDs..
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I would like to know how this would perform in a laptop
Same as a SSD.. no reason why it wouldn't. You're limited to the SATA speeds anyway. Max 550MBs
How does this show up in synology nas??
as 1 drive. I know, so cool.
A non raid ssd has ``500``Mb/s what is the point to raid it on raid 0 for the same speed????
Not all SSDs. With multiple you could raid 1 the raid 0. Pretty cool.
is there a m.2 nvme version? ive noticed this one is only sata ngff
That is impossible, NVMe drives need access to the PCIe lanes to function. Which cant be accessed through the sata cable, which is a serial connection. NVMe drives are bi-directional. Parallel access. Only compatible iwith: SATA M.2 SSDs type drives and not compatible with M.2 NVMe or AHCI PCI-Express SSDs
Great video, can it detect both ssd's individually?
No, it's a RAID device. It's one sata connection. It can't see two drives independently.
Does it limit the speed of the nvme ssd?
M.2 SSD are limited anyway. Two different technologies. M.2 NVMe SSD and the M.2 SATA SSD. This uses the M.2 SATA SSD drives. However, the SATA has a 550MBs limit per port anyway. It's really for RAID in a single drive.
isn't that RAID 10 (1+0) where the OS thinks it's RAID 0?
Hardware RAID on drive and motherboard.
J'ai besoin d'un adaptateur comme celui ci, est-ce que vous avez un de trop pour moi?
I have no idea what you wrote
Im a complete noob. How Do I Set up raid 1 with ubuntu server
Don't have too. Buy that and two drives. done.
on PS4???pls
Confused on your question
He wants to know if it works in ps4 @@Joeteck
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