Personally I hate the “let’s install something amazing on something crappy. E g watch me install this rtx 3090 into this pi. It’s pointless and adds nothing.
To clarify, SAS has a plastic block thing that sits between the data and power pins. The actual pinout is the same. I should have been more clear. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Look into his Twitter with tweet about pcb and scroll down to the comment twitter.com/Davegills123/status/1367551792133775366?s=19 It's the slim shady version tho
Well, in fairness, it is kind of stupid to design a completely different point when you have an UNIVERSAL designed by this point. Yet, of course, someone wants to be different and screw over everyone by using a different method.
@@Qardo The Firewire issue is due apple, it was their solution for data transfer Sadly Nobody wanted to pay them a large fee to use firewire, while USB was a OPEN/Globally accepted standard. Thus essentially giving firewire the middle finger
@@darknessblades My DV-Camcorder begs to differ. Sure, Sony called it by it's real name, IEEE 1394, but in video aquisition/editing it was king, no reencoding, just transfering bytes from camcorder to PC. At that time, mice still had PS/2, and if USB existed, it was USB 1, capped to 12 Mbit/s.
@@Qardo dude.... Try automation for a good laugths......And nigthmares... Just with the RJ-45 we have protocole like : Modbus TCP.... Profinet.... Ethercat.... Powerlink.... SERCOS III Some of them having variants for spécified use....like failsafe for sécurity... And those are the ones bases on ethernet..... Because there's some non ethernet based ones.... Like serial RS232 or RS485. WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE!!!!!!
I already love the compatability of sas and sata, I don't have any u.2/nvme drives in my homelab but in the future I see this being AWESOME! when it gets more affordable to homelabers like us.
@@levinkroenke8515 the comparability of SAS and SATA is so fucking awesome! When I started my lab I was on a budget and was thankful I was able to reuse old SATA drives!
@@splift23 for me it was the opposite as I recently bought a dell PE1950 90CADand 8 1tb SAS drives for 80CAD, noone buys sas drives since they can't be used in desktops. But for testing and being able to use the same HBA is the awesome part.
@@levinkroenke8515 if I could SAS drives for that cheap I'd be all over it! What are you using the 1950 for? When I bought my R720 I didn't realize it didn't have a PERC so I'm limited to 4 drives rn...
@@splift23 Another deal I found is 6 2tb drives for 150CAD. Iam using the server for a bunch of homelab stuff, minecraft server, nas, ftp server, docekr, plex, home assistant, VPN, I also have another old laptop running as a server with ocotprint 3d printer itnerface and a few othter things. I just cannabised the chassy a bit so I have the per running 4 sff drives in the front, and then added another LSI card to runt he 8 LFF drives mounted to a piece of wood. Does your server have any sata ports? mine only has 1 and no power other then for the backplane that had a few spare pins for me to atach cables from a dead power supply from. If your in ontario canada I can send you the link to those drives.
For those interested in putting these in RAID 10 in a workstation, Broadcom and Highpoint do make reasonably priced RAID controllers. Proper ones. As in, battery-backed caches, either PCIe 4.0 x8 or PCie 4.0 x16. Not hard to shove > 25GB/sec through them for reads, and > 10GB/sec of writes, with triple the endurance of M2.2280 form factors.
Last time I checked, the "bulkier but slower" storage was mostly 3.5" drives, because fitting more than 1TB of spinning rust in a 2.5" drive is kinda hard. So I think the split between 2.5" and 3.5" backplanes is here to stay.
10:47 ... holy hell! You know what I thought of immediately hearing Linus's plan? ZFS Storage Array!!! The all NVME portion = ZFS Cache, and the all SAS portion = ZFS storage. U.3 is AWESOME. If I still am working with physical servers, I would push my company to acquire this.
U.2 does have some level of compatibility with NVMe and SAS/SATA in the same form factor. The Dell R6525 can do it if you order it with the NVMe/SAS/SATA backplane. It does, however, not use a unified controller chip like U.3, which seems to be the big difference. The NVMe routes directly to the CPU's PCIe lanes, and the SAS/SATA runs to a separate PERC RAID controller. Not all bays are capable of NVMe, only some of them, but I believe they can all do SAS/SATA. Some quick research says U.3 drives will work in U.2 servers, but U.2-compatible drives will not work in U.3 servers, because of how they changed the pin-outs on the connector.
0:58 - The USB into Firewire gave me flashbacks to my previous workplace, where a colleague rammed his USB keyboard into the gigabit nic of his computer. First he got angry his keyboard didn't work, then he kept nagging the USB port was way to 'tight', while forcing it into the wrong 'hole', repeatedly...
You can take out one of the PCIe brackets and run the cables through an unused PCIe slot out the back. This way the chassis's cover can fit. I've done this with a few Poweredge servers. Running it through an empty PCIe slot, not only look better but will shut up the fans and let you keep the unit to 1U.
Video idea: Best M.2 SSD enclosures. It’s so difficult to find small, portable 4TB SSDs and the few that exist are really overpriced. I’ve been trying to figure out the best enclosure and SSD pairing that doesn’t get too hot, is relatively small, has decent throughput, and good reliability. Thank you for your consideration.
Lenovo has supported this for quite some time on their Epyc servers, called SR6x5, both single and dual socket systems. I build a few of them some time ago.
kind of odd that this format isn't more popular on the consumer side of things. why have six m.2 slots when you can have three or four m2s and a u3, with probably more capacity in the u3 than all the m2s combined. m2s are only hitting 8tb, when u3s are reaching up to 30 - that's bigger than the biggest hard drives and the only things larger are sata ssds that are only about twice as fast as a standard hdd and are about the same price as a good u3. obviously it'd be expensive but a fair share of the consumer pc market is enthusiasts who would surely jump on these massive capacities at even pci3 speeds, that's a LOT faster than using hard disks for storage
I'm dubious about the testing benefits. You can do some testing on a platform like this, but unless it's the only target platform, you still have to test it on all of the target platforms, so this would increase the test surface for most purposes, not decrease it.
I think the title should have something about u.3 in it. If someone tries to find info about it this video would be much easier to find. Great presentation tho gotta love server vids.
I know this is an older video, but hopefully someone sees this comment and can clarify something for me: So, if I am understanding this right, the idea is that you can get an existing server, plug Broadcom's GBA 9500-16i Tri-Mode Storage Adapter into the PCI-E slot, then connect it to the server's drive bay using cables, then if you get U.3 NVME 2.5" SSDs you can use the server with NVME SSDs even if by itself it is made to use SATA or SAS drives?
the usb firewire scene literally horrified me, if you're gonna use gore in your videos you need to age restrict it! lol
I'm gonna have nightmares about that sound
Tech gore
Links plz
the sound it made was *P H Y S I C A L C R I N G E*
@@futurez14 0:56
I feel like ~80% of things linus shows off is "something you can't just go out and buy"
Yeah, but usually its pretty cool to see nonetheless.
Indeed
Yeah he’s like the tech version of top gear lol
I agree
"Consumer Advice."
0:22 “but it’s not nearly as cool”
There is no way that he actually missed a sponsor segue there
TIL you spell it like 'segue'
@@kermitdefrog628
se·gue
noun
an uninterrupted transition from one piece of music or film scene to another.
segway is a company
@@err fuck off
@@err ok
We are all trapped in matrix. Real linus has been captured by the machines and he's helping them develop more advanced technologies.
My Raspberry Pi needs this. 8 of this.
yes
do a video please
Compute card with PCIe.. Then that adapter card and the enclosure. I want to see the result!
Pretty funny seeing a youtuber commenting on another 'tuber's video.
Or rather 3.14 of this...
heh.. get it.. get it because its pi ah nevermind.
Personally I hate the “let’s install something amazing on something crappy. E g watch me install this rtx 3090 into this pi. It’s pointless and adds nothing.
8:57 OO EE - just need an AA now
1st, nobody cares lol
Then a drives named Bing and bang.
Beautiful reference
I found DESINC in a Linus Tech Tips video
OMG!!!
"boring old u.2" man i'm still running on sata 3 gb
@@brokengames9020 what am i reading
@@dylan5048 a troll just ignore
@@dylan5048 based schizo posting
@@dylan5048 Complete unsubstantiated BS. However, I want some of whatever they are smoking.
@@brokengames9020 You can if you spell it wrong
To clarify, SAS has a plastic block thing that sits between the data and power pins.
The actual pinout is the same.
I should have been more clear.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Hey linus
2nd reply
Ah I was wondering about that. What does it do though, it looked like it had more pins on that bit?
pin the reply
you forgot to pin this
"You probably noticed I just shoved that in there"
-Linus 2021
Hehe
That's what he said
And She Didn't Notice... -Every Woman With Linus Always
Linus S ex Tips
Hehe
For those who don’t know: Kioxia is Toshiba
Thanks!
*Kioxia is Toshiba's flash memory subsidiary.
Thanks too!
Also, Western Digital and Micron are trying to buy them because they are leading the way in DDR5 architecture.
@@clashwithkeen oh thank you I didn’t know that
02:47 - Are you seriously chomping the SAS cables inside the top case of that server?! The poor bits trying to get through...
Yea thats why the U.3 ssd was that slow
Also some rgb would gain 10% of perf
No bits were injured in the making of this video
It's ok they're fit girl bits
I guess those bits won’t be very quick. No quick bits here
I saw that backplane Linus had an immediately thought of yours. :)
4:17 Ladies and gentlemen, we got it
_X T R A T H I C C_ linus
*W I D E P U T I N*
I want that pic for my own desktop background!
I saw this in the preview yt gives u, and is the only reason that I actually went on this video
I need a high res jpeg of this
Look into his Twitter with tweet about pcb and scroll down to the comment
twitter.com/Davegills123/status/1367551792133775366?s=19
It's the slim shady version tho
You look a lot nicer with this captain America beard .
Fr🥵🤤
Negative. Only beta males have face pubes
@@err ok
@@err Ok I won't
@@silenthill4 he is a beta male anyway but he look way sexier with the beard
“Except they’re not” this is video is sponsored by Vsauce
Or they are???
@@TheVirtualArena24 top 10 best anime plot twists
Hey Vsauce. Linus here.
@@TopRacer2002 Hey LTT, Linux here.
Why my keyboard autocorrects the Linus
Hey LTT, Linus here.
___________________
"Firewire... now that's a name I haven't heard in a very long time"
pour out a swig of 40oz for the homie
“I don’t remember owning a Firewire”
I still use FW 800, and sometimes even 400
@@arhoades
Reported
@@rembramlastname3631 🤣
Me who has no idea what Linus is talking about:
-hmm, Interesting
Correct
Pc: "OO(F:)".
Linus: Oo!
Audience: Big OOF....
That drive says "OO (F:)", and it's nearly 7TB, so it's quite a big oof (queue Madison)
7tb OO (F:)
cue
almost nobody saw the oof
@@Nael000 I think everyone except linus saw it.
“but it’s not nearly as cool”
Daniel
The cooler Daniel
yes
I'm daniel
Honestly as an IT professional, this is dope and very exciting. Hoping this gets adopted quickly throughout the entire industry
07:43 omg hitting the screen with a screwdriver... is next level "Linus doesn't care about hardware." 🥴
I felt it too, poor screen!
Bruh he didnt hit that hard
hed did the same thing to the chips on other video, ungrounded hardware and etc, oh boy
Linus completely missed the OO (F:) being "oof"
Yup. Big œuf
Sadly the writer is still on probation, so he can't tell the joke on camera
he'a a boomer
It's also 6,98TB so its a pretty Big OO (F:)
0:59
Like putting a USB drive in a Firewire port.
"Proceeds to show Jamming of a Firewire port in a USB port"
Well, in fairness, it is kind of stupid to design a completely different point when you have an UNIVERSAL designed by this point. Yet, of course, someone wants to be different and screw over everyone by using a different method.
@@Qardo The Firewire issue is due apple, it was their solution for data transfer
Sadly Nobody wanted to pay them a large fee to use firewire, while USB was a OPEN/Globally accepted standard.
Thus essentially giving firewire the middle finger
@@darknessblades My DV-Camcorder begs to differ. Sure, Sony called it by it's real name, IEEE 1394, but in video aquisition/editing it was king, no reencoding, just transfering bytes from camcorder to PC. At that time, mice still had PS/2, and if USB existed, it was USB 1, capped to 12 Mbit/s.
@@Qardo dude.... Try automation for a good laugths......And nigthmares... Just with the RJ-45 we have protocole like :
Modbus TCP....
Profinet....
Ethercat....
Powerlink....
SERCOS III
Some of them having variants for spécified use....like failsafe for sécurity...
And those are the ones bases on ethernet.....
Because there's some non ethernet based ones.... Like serial RS232 or RS485.
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE!!!!!!
All DV camcorders used FireWire. FireWire was released before USB and it was a lot faster than USB 1.0 and 1.1
The only thing I could focus on was the nasty chimes in the audio.
I’ve never noticed the background music in an LTT video before, but this was just too distracting.
Same here only heard chimes
This video was better than most. Most have terrible / loud music in the background. This was much more subtle
its the vacuum cleaner machine
For some reason when linus said "yes my friends" i expected to hear "its here and we got one"
Linus taps screen with I-fixit screwdriver.
Us: "Nooooooooooo"
Him: "And that's a perfect segue to our sponsor, I-fixit!"
I don't even use this stuff and this all sounds like a massive convenience upgrade for people who do this for a living.
Eyy you got a heart
0:58: That made me physically recoil
Yeah, I winced when I saw that too. The poor Firewire 800 connector.
Linus Tech Gore
Same. I'm really hoping those were already broken...
@@brokengames9020 You........ You ok over there? You sound a little crazed.
@@brokengames9020 neither is what ever you’re taking that’s making you paranoid.
How did Linus miss Madison's naming the OO (F:) drive???
Big oof moment
big ouef
@@floppa_9530 The Canadian Oof
Oof
This is amazing!! This is going to make server builds so much more flexible if this were to take off!
Director: A robot
Writer: A robot
Quality Control: My Landlady
I can't wait to put this in my homelab in 10 years
I already love the compatability of sas and sata, I don't have any u.2/nvme drives in my homelab but in the future I see this being AWESOME! when it gets more affordable to homelabers like us.
@@levinkroenke8515 the comparability of SAS and SATA is so fucking awesome! When I started my lab I was on a budget and was thankful I was able to reuse old SATA drives!
@@splift23 for me it was the opposite as I recently bought a dell PE1950 90CADand 8 1tb SAS drives for 80CAD, noone buys sas drives since they can't be used in desktops. But for testing and being able to use the same HBA is the awesome part.
@@levinkroenke8515 if I could SAS drives for that cheap I'd be all over it! What are you using the 1950 for? When I bought my R720 I didn't realize it didn't have a PERC so I'm limited to 4 drives rn...
@@splift23 Another deal I found is 6 2tb drives for 150CAD. Iam using the server for a bunch of homelab stuff, minecraft server, nas, ftp server, docekr, plex, home assistant, VPN, I also have another old laptop running as a server with ocotprint 3d printer itnerface and a few othter things. I just cannabised the chassy a bit so I have the per running 4 sff drives in the front, and then added another LSI card to runt he 8 LFF drives mounted to a piece of wood. Does your server have any sata ports? mine only has 1 and no power other then for the backplane that had a few spare pins for me to atach cables from a dead power supply from. If your in ontario canada I can send you the link to those drives.
When the drive is named OO and drive letter is F: oof
bit disaapointed its not oef ^^
@@rodmongodwood *œf
@@FourOf92000 yes that one
Geez, the shadow of Madison is haunting LMG.
Big oef all the way
I had no idea what was talked about half of the time,
But I liked it nonetheless.
Great presentation!
😂😂 u n me too
LOL I'm IT and was wondering if anybody but me and other people in the field knows any use for this :)
Just want to say thanks for covering data center topics as well as consumer ones. Both are interesting and helpful.
seeing Linus hot-swapping drives like that made me extremely uncomfortable.
What the hell is this background music?
I feel like I'm watching a Disney classic.
Truly horrible
its the vacuum cleaner machine
iLinus, nerdy cousin of iCarly
Fun fact: that's the exact oven they use for temperature testing
Fun fact: first title was these are totally different, let me explain. Now it’s these are not the same.
Linus looking like he's about to pop a kickflip down a set of stairs
What did he say? I was listening to the Hallmark Christmas movie soundtrack.
When the cpu becomes the bottleneck of the transfer speed.
Drive to cpu: Look at me now, i am the boss.
I feel like I'm in a magical forest but it's actually just a tycoon game
0:01 thought for a second it was sponsored by Nokia
Ikr I thought I was the only one who was thinking about the same thing lol
Yep
For those interested in putting these in RAID 10 in a workstation, Broadcom and Highpoint do make reasonably priced RAID controllers.
Proper ones. As in, battery-backed caches, either PCIe 4.0 x8 or PCie 4.0 x16.
Not hard to shove > 25GB/sec through them for reads, and > 10GB/sec of writes, with triple the endurance of M2.2280 form factors.
Last time I checked, the "bulkier but slower" storage was mostly 3.5" drives, because fitting more than 1TB of spinning rust in a 2.5" drive is kinda hard. So I think the split between 2.5" and 3.5" backplanes is here to stay.
Linus: says "69"
Everyone else: "Nice"
Not gonna lie but I already said nice before he said it!
what's up with the The Sims-like background music? lol
Idk, but I kinda like it. Lol
I feel like a nerd watching these regularly but I'm quite sporty
Yes, because we all know, that being a nerd and doing sports and/or taking care of oneself are mutually exclusive. /sarcasm
You know, I'm something of a nerd myself :)
lmao i dont even know whats going on
oh no dont let your ball-handling friends catch you liking computer things, surely your social status would be reduced
Shut up man
10:47 ... holy hell! You know what I thought of immediately hearing Linus's plan? ZFS Storage Array!!! The all NVME portion = ZFS Cache, and the all SAS portion = ZFS storage.
U.3 is AWESOME. If I still am working with physical servers, I would push my company to acquire this.
I love the happy-go movie music in the background as he talks about PCIe to SAS conversions and software RAID.
why is there a sims-sounding song in the background the whole time
because we live in a SIMulation
Drinking game: everytime linus says “go out and buy” you drink
But why would want to stay sober? I'd use every time he mentions lttstore.com for fast results
@@joshconfer209 nah, just drink everytime he says a word with the letter a in it
We would be drunk in seconds he says it so much
@@danhguitardemos yeah wed be dead in a matter of minutes
Linus: "We can hotswap any drive."
Me (and probably 3 other people) :
Floppy drive?
You're not alone, my friend)
It’s really cool seeing a TH-camr I’m a fan of doing a video of a product made by the company I work for.
That sound of the firewire destroying the USB port straight up gave me sensory overload, not even kidding
Alternate answer: they have different labels
"me the average consumer..." Linus don't kid yourself
I just wanted to see the image of Linus wearing himself 4:20 . Dont know what this video is about.
U.2 does have some level of compatibility with NVMe and SAS/SATA in the same form factor.
The Dell R6525 can do it if you order it with the NVMe/SAS/SATA backplane.
It does, however, not use a unified controller chip like U.3, which seems to be the big difference. The NVMe routes directly to the CPU's PCIe lanes, and the SAS/SATA runs to a separate PERC RAID controller. Not all bays are capable of NVMe, only some of them, but I believe they can all do SAS/SATA.
Some quick research says U.3 drives will work in U.2 servers, but U.2-compatible drives will not work in U.3 servers, because of how they changed the pin-outs on the connector.
Wow, I'm really excited for data center administrators. Lol
When he went "Oo Ee" I went "Ooh Eeh Ooh Ah Aah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing"
Linus looking more like a mountain man every video
0:58 - The USB into Firewire gave me flashbacks to my previous workplace, where a colleague rammed his USB keyboard into the gigabit nic of his computer.
First he got angry his keyboard didn't work, then he kept nagging the USB port was way to 'tight', while forcing it into the wrong 'hole', repeatedly...
I had an advert for Kioxia just before this video
Can't wait until I can build my gaming computer
I just want a rtx 3000
How is this comment related to the video?
@@doppiak2227 I just want a gt 600
@@doppiak2227 I’m just trying to play Minecraft bro
I love watching things that I can't buy.
I enjoy buying them. But nobody will take my money.
Yeah, that wasn't "OO" Linus, it was drive letter "F".......sooo.....big OOF there boyo.
Definitely enjoyed how you guys did this video vs some of the other more charty ones, really well explained, easy to understand 🤙
The voice crack at the 2 minute mark was my favorite "slot"
5:43 this is a sus ssd
4:20 Linus is going to disappear tommorow
*W I D E P U T I N*
Lol
No one escapes the Russian inquisition
Yes, Linus, you are "Putin"; Please stop farting in the studio when everyone is around you. Sheesh.
You can take out one of the PCIe brackets and run the cables through an unused PCIe slot out the back. This way the chassis's cover can fit. I've done this with a few Poweredge servers. Running it through an empty PCIe slot, not only look better but will shut up the fans and let you keep the unit to 1U.
7:05 I'm hoping that tiny pillow is a little cheaper than $70
OmG iM sO eArLy
Video idea: Best M.2 SSD enclosures. It’s so difficult to find small, portable 4TB SSDs and the few that exist are really overpriced. I’ve been trying to figure out the best enclosure and SSD pairing that doesn’t get too hot, is relatively small, has decent throughput, and good reliability.
Thank you for your consideration.
The best one will be one which can just fit 4 1tb SSDs.
Great music on this episode. Kudos to the editor.
Lenovo has supported this for quite some time on their Epyc servers, called SR6x5, both single and dual socket systems. I build a few of them some time ago.
kind of odd that this format isn't more popular on the consumer side of things. why have six m.2 slots when you can have three or four m2s and a u3, with probably more capacity in the u3 than all the m2s combined. m2s are only hitting 8tb, when u3s are reaching up to 30 - that's bigger than the biggest hard drives and the only things larger are sata ssds that are only about twice as fast as a standard hdd and are about the same price as a good u3. obviously it'd be expensive but a fair share of the consumer pc market is enthusiasts who would surely jump on these massive capacities at even pci3 speeds, that's a LOT faster than using hard disks for storage
You should create a channel for just servers, network devices and software. Small IT depts would love it.
That music makes me want to watch a Disney movie.
I used to own a boutique cloud hosting company - we had racks of 1RU SuperMicro servers, in our datacentre. Imagine the noise, hey....
I'm dubious about the testing benefits. You can do some testing on a platform like this, but unless it's the only target platform, you still have to test it on all of the target platforms, so this would increase the test surface for most purposes, not decrease it.
@11:42 Quality Control: My Landlady...
Director: A robot...
Ok...
Yes, HPE is shipping these in Proliant Gen 10 plus if you want a U.3 backplane.
I think the title should have something about u.3 in it. If someone tries to find info about it this video would be much easier to find. Great presentation tho gotta love server vids.
Man, that was really weird seeing Linus with short hair and no beard...the added hair has definitely been an improvement ahaha
3:55
Office next door: “Someone’s flying drones in the shop again...”
Being a It pro, this type of content just makes so happy.....inspire the new generation of IT pro's!
Yes, more people need to learn how to abuse hardware just like Linus, so we "IT Pros" won't ever run out of work.
I can't wait for next week's video on the new SCSI standard coming next year
when you showed the fire wire carnage I instinctively went to close the tab
wouldnt care less about servers but as a simple man i see linus i watch the entire video even the sponsor parts :)
For a gaming channel, I sure learn a lot about server tech.
I know this is an older video, but hopefully someone sees this comment and can clarify something for me:
So, if I am understanding this right, the idea is that you can get an existing server, plug Broadcom's GBA 9500-16i Tri-Mode Storage Adapter into the PCI-E slot, then connect it to the server's drive bay using cables, then if you get U.3 NVME 2.5" SSDs you can use the server with NVME SSDs even if by itself it is made to use SATA or SAS drives?
Man s/o to the entire LTT team the quality of this video is insane, you can literally see the entire pcb gg guys!!
Damn why does always release videos that I actually need thank you
Watching this in x2 speed forces me to focus in a way I have never focused before and it made me cry bcuz of the stress and pressure it puts me in
I was waiting for one of those drives to go flying from Linus' hands in the opening. lol
Always appreciate tech lessons with Mr. Linus.
I kinda want something like that for my desktop computers. It's like a bigger and much meaner flash drive.