Personally I hate the “let’s install something amazing on something crappy. E g watch me install this rtx 3090 into this pi. It’s pointless and adds nothing.
Look into his Twitter with tweet about pcb and scroll down to the comment twitter.com/Davegills123/status/1367551792133775366?s=19 It's the slim shady version tho
To clarify, SAS has a plastic block thing that sits between the data and power pins. The actual pinout is the same. I should have been more clear. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
I already love the compatability of sas and sata, I don't have any u.2/nvme drives in my homelab but in the future I see this being AWESOME! when it gets more affordable to homelabers like us.
@@levinkroenke8515 the comparability of SAS and SATA is so fucking awesome! When I started my lab I was on a budget and was thankful I was able to reuse old SATA drives!
@@splift23 for me it was the opposite as I recently bought a dell PE1950 90CADand 8 1tb SAS drives for 80CAD, noone buys sas drives since they can't be used in desktops. But for testing and being able to use the same HBA is the awesome part.
@@levinkroenke8515 if I could SAS drives for that cheap I'd be all over it! What are you using the 1950 for? When I bought my R720 I didn't realize it didn't have a PERC so I'm limited to 4 drives rn...
@@splift23 Another deal I found is 6 2tb drives for 150CAD. Iam using the server for a bunch of homelab stuff, minecraft server, nas, ftp server, docekr, plex, home assistant, VPN, I also have another old laptop running as a server with ocotprint 3d printer itnerface and a few othter things. I just cannabised the chassy a bit so I have the per running 4 sff drives in the front, and then added another LSI card to runt he 8 LFF drives mounted to a piece of wood. Does your server have any sata ports? mine only has 1 and no power other then for the backplane that had a few spare pins for me to atach cables from a dead power supply from. If your in ontario canada I can send you the link to those drives.
Well, in fairness, it is kind of stupid to design a completely different point when you have an UNIVERSAL designed by this point. Yet, of course, someone wants to be different and screw over everyone by using a different method.
@@Qardo The Firewire issue is due apple, it was their solution for data transfer Sadly Nobody wanted to pay them a large fee to use firewire, while USB was a OPEN/Globally accepted standard. Thus essentially giving firewire the middle finger
@@darknessblades My DV-Camcorder begs to differ. Sure, Sony called it by it's real name, IEEE 1394, but in video aquisition/editing it was king, no reencoding, just transfering bytes from camcorder to PC. At that time, mice still had PS/2, and if USB existed, it was USB 1, capped to 12 Mbit/s.
@@Qardo dude.... Try automation for a good laugths......And nigthmares... Just with the RJ-45 we have protocole like : Modbus TCP.... Profinet.... Ethercat.... Powerlink.... SERCOS III Some of them having variants for spécified use....like failsafe for sécurity... And those are the ones bases on ethernet..... Because there's some non ethernet based ones.... Like serial RS232 or RS485. WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE!!!!!!
For those interested in putting these in RAID 10 in a workstation, Broadcom and Highpoint do make reasonably priced RAID controllers. Proper ones. As in, battery-backed caches, either PCIe 4.0 x8 or PCie 4.0 x16. Not hard to shove > 25GB/sec through them for reads, and > 10GB/sec of writes, with triple the endurance of M2.2280 form factors.
10:47 ... holy hell! You know what I thought of immediately hearing Linus's plan? ZFS Storage Array!!! The all NVME portion = ZFS Cache, and the all SAS portion = ZFS storage. U.3 is AWESOME. If I still am working with physical servers, I would push my company to acquire this.
Last time I checked, the "bulkier but slower" storage was mostly 3.5" drives, because fitting more than 1TB of spinning rust in a 2.5" drive is kinda hard. So I think the split between 2.5" and 3.5" backplanes is here to stay.
kind of odd that this format isn't more popular on the consumer side of things. why have six m.2 slots when you can have three or four m2s and a u3, with probably more capacity in the u3 than all the m2s combined. m2s are only hitting 8tb, when u3s are reaching up to 30 - that's bigger than the biggest hard drives and the only things larger are sata ssds that are only about twice as fast as a standard hdd and are about the same price as a good u3. obviously it'd be expensive but a fair share of the consumer pc market is enthusiasts who would surely jump on these massive capacities at even pci3 speeds, that's a LOT faster than using hard disks for storage
I think the title should have something about u.3 in it. If someone tries to find info about it this video would be much easier to find. Great presentation tho gotta love server vids.
U.2 does have some level of compatibility with NVMe and SAS/SATA in the same form factor. The Dell R6525 can do it if you order it with the NVMe/SAS/SATA backplane. It does, however, not use a unified controller chip like U.3, which seems to be the big difference. The NVMe routes directly to the CPU's PCIe lanes, and the SAS/SATA runs to a separate PERC RAID controller. Not all bays are capable of NVMe, only some of them, but I believe they can all do SAS/SATA. Some quick research says U.3 drives will work in U.2 servers, but U.2-compatible drives will not work in U.3 servers, because of how they changed the pin-outs on the connector.
You can take out one of the PCIe brackets and run the cables through an unused PCIe slot out the back. This way the chassis's cover can fit. I've done this with a few Poweredge servers. Running it through an empty PCIe slot, not only look better but will shut up the fans and let you keep the unit to 1U.
5:06-what are those 4 pins on the right of the regular SATA connector/port? I didn't have it on my laptop's 2.5" HDD but when I upgraded it to a SSHD after a few years, it has those, but the cable didn't have any such connector.
I'm dubious about the testing benefits. You can do some testing on a platform like this, but unless it's the only target platform, you still have to test it on all of the target platforms, so this would increase the test surface for most purposes, not decrease it.
I love watching you videos even though I have no pc and cant afford one just seems interesting I don't know why also considering your Canadian eh and tim hortons is life
Lenovo has supported this for quite some time on their Epyc servers, called SR6x5, both single and dual socket systems. I build a few of them some time ago.
the usb firewire scene literally horrified me, if you're gonna use gore in your videos you need to age restrict it! lol
I'm gonna have nightmares about that sound
Tech gore
Links plz
the sound it made was *P H Y S I C A L C R I N G E*
@@futurez14 0:56
I feel like ~80% of things linus shows off is "something you can't just go out and buy"
Yeah, but usually its pretty cool to see nonetheless.
Indeed
Yeah he’s like the tech version of top gear lol
I agree
"Consumer Advice."
0:22 “but it’s not nearly as cool”
There is no way that he actually missed a sponsor segue there
TIL you spell it like 'segue'
@@kermitdefrog628
se·gue
noun
an uninterrupted transition from one piece of music or film scene to another.
segway is a company
@@err fuck off
@@err ok
We are all trapped in matrix. Real linus has been captured by the machines and he's helping them develop more advanced technologies.
My Raspberry Pi needs this. 8 of this.
yes
do a video please
Compute card with PCIe.. Then that adapter card and the enclosure. I want to see the result!
Pretty funny seeing a youtuber commenting on another 'tuber's video.
Or rather 3.14 of this...
heh.. get it.. get it because its pi ah nevermind.
Personally I hate the “let’s install something amazing on something crappy. E g watch me install this rtx 3090 into this pi. It’s pointless and adds nothing.
8:57 OO EE - just need an AA now
1st, nobody cares lol
Then a drives named Bing and bang.
Beautiful reference
I found DESINC in a Linus Tech Tips video
OMG!!!
"You probably noticed I just shoved that in there"
-Linus 2021
Hehe
That's what he said
And She Didn't Notice... -Every Woman With Linus Always
Linus S ex Tips
Hehe
"boring old u.2" man i'm still running on sata 3 gb
@@brokengames9020 what am i reading
@@dylan5048 a troll just ignore
@@dylan5048 based schizo posting
@@dylan5048 Complete unsubstantiated BS. However, I want some of whatever they are smoking.
@@brokengames9020 You can if you spell it wrong
4:17 Ladies and gentlemen, we got it
_X T R A T H I C C_ linus
*W I D E P U T I N*
I want that pic for my own desktop background!
I saw this in the preview yt gives u, and is the only reason that I actually went on this video
I need a high res jpeg of this
Look into his Twitter with tweet about pcb and scroll down to the comment
twitter.com/Davegills123/status/1367551792133775366?s=19
It's the slim shady version tho
To clarify, SAS has a plastic block thing that sits between the data and power pins.
The actual pinout is the same.
I should have been more clear.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Hey linus
2nd reply
Ah I was wondering about that. What does it do though, it looked like it had more pins on that bit?
pin the reply
you forgot to pin this
For those who don’t know: Kioxia is Toshiba
Thanks!
*Kioxia is Toshiba's flash memory subsidiary.
Thanks too!
Also, Western Digital and Micron are trying to buy them because they are leading the way in DDR5 architecture.
@@clashwithkeen oh thank you I didn’t know that
You look a lot nicer with this captain America beard .
Fr🥵🤤
Negative. Only beta males have face pubes
@@err ok
@@err Ok I won't
@@silenthill4 he is a beta male anyway but he look way sexier with the beard
“Except they’re not” this is video is sponsored by Vsauce
Or they are???
@@TheVirtualArena24 top 10 best anime plot twists
Hey Vsauce. Linus here.
@@TopRacer2002 Hey LTT, Linux here.
Why my keyboard autocorrects the Linus
Hey LTT, Linus here.
___________________
02:47 - Are you seriously chomping the SAS cables inside the top case of that server?! The poor bits trying to get through...
Yea thats why the U.3 ssd was that slow
Also some rgb would gain 10% of perf
No bits were injured in the making of this video
It's ok they're fit girl bits
I guess those bits won’t be very quick. No quick bits here
I saw that backplane Linus had an immediately thought of yours. :)
Me who has no idea what Linus is talking about:
-hmm, Interesting
Correct
"Firewire... now that's a name I haven't heard in a very long time"
pour out a swig of 40oz for the homie
“I don’t remember owning a Firewire”
I still use FW 800, and sometimes even 400
@@arhoades
Reported
@@rembramlastname3631 🤣
“but it’s not nearly as cool”
Daniel
The cooler Daniel
yes
I'm daniel
Pc: "OO(F:)".
Linus: Oo!
Audience: Big OOF....
Honestly as an IT professional, this is dope and very exciting. Hoping this gets adopted quickly throughout the entire industry
For some reason when linus said "yes my friends" i expected to hear "its here and we got one"
Linus taps screen with I-fixit screwdriver.
Us: "Nooooooooooo"
Him: "And that's a perfect segue to our sponsor, I-fixit!"
Linus completely missed the OO (F:) being "oof"
Yup. Big œuf
Sadly the writer is still on probation, so he can't tell the joke on camera
he'a a boomer
It's also 6,98TB so its a pretty Big OO (F:)
That drive says "OO (F:)", and it's nearly 7TB, so it's quite a big oof (queue Madison)
7tb OO (F:)
cue
almost nobody saw the oof
@@Nael000 I think everyone except linus saw it.
I can't wait to put this in my homelab in 10 years
I already love the compatability of sas and sata, I don't have any u.2/nvme drives in my homelab but in the future I see this being AWESOME! when it gets more affordable to homelabers like us.
@@levinkroenke8515 the comparability of SAS and SATA is so fucking awesome! When I started my lab I was on a budget and was thankful I was able to reuse old SATA drives!
@@splift23 for me it was the opposite as I recently bought a dell PE1950 90CADand 8 1tb SAS drives for 80CAD, noone buys sas drives since they can't be used in desktops. But for testing and being able to use the same HBA is the awesome part.
@@levinkroenke8515 if I could SAS drives for that cheap I'd be all over it! What are you using the 1950 for? When I bought my R720 I didn't realize it didn't have a PERC so I'm limited to 4 drives rn...
@@splift23 Another deal I found is 6 2tb drives for 150CAD. Iam using the server for a bunch of homelab stuff, minecraft server, nas, ftp server, docekr, plex, home assistant, VPN, I also have another old laptop running as a server with ocotprint 3d printer itnerface and a few othter things. I just cannabised the chassy a bit so I have the per running 4 sff drives in the front, and then added another LSI card to runt he 8 LFF drives mounted to a piece of wood. Does your server have any sata ports? mine only has 1 and no power other then for the backplane that had a few spare pins for me to atach cables from a dead power supply from. If your in ontario canada I can send you the link to those drives.
07:43 omg hitting the screen with a screwdriver... is next level "Linus doesn't care about hardware." 🥴
I felt it too, poor screen!
Bruh he didnt hit that hard
hed did the same thing to the chips on other video, ungrounded hardware and etc, oh boy
This is amazing!! This is going to make server builds so much more flexible if this were to take off!
The only thing I could focus on was the nasty chimes in the audio.
I’ve never noticed the background music in an LTT video before, but this was just too distracting.
Same here only heard chimes
This video was better than most. Most have terrible / loud music in the background. This was much more subtle
its the vacuum cleaner machine
I don't even use this stuff and this all sounds like a massive convenience upgrade for people who do this for a living.
Eyy you got a heart
Fun fact: that's the exact oven they use for temperature testing
Director: A robot
Writer: A robot
Quality Control: My Landlady
Just want to say thanks for covering data center topics as well as consumer ones. Both are interesting and helpful.
How did Linus miss Madison's naming the OO (F:) drive???
Big oof moment
@@floppa_9530 The Canadian Oof
Oof
0:58: That made me physically recoil
Yeah, I winced when I saw that too. The poor Firewire 800 connector.
Linus Tech Gore
Same. I'm really hoping those were already broken...
@@brokengames9020 You........ You ok over there? You sound a little crazed.
@@brokengames9020 neither is what ever you’re taking that’s making you paranoid.
0:59
Like putting a USB drive in a Firewire port.
"Proceeds to show Jamming of a Firewire port in a USB port"
Well, in fairness, it is kind of stupid to design a completely different point when you have an UNIVERSAL designed by this point. Yet, of course, someone wants to be different and screw over everyone by using a different method.
@@Qardo The Firewire issue is due apple, it was their solution for data transfer
Sadly Nobody wanted to pay them a large fee to use firewire, while USB was a OPEN/Globally accepted standard.
Thus essentially giving firewire the middle finger
@@darknessblades My DV-Camcorder begs to differ. Sure, Sony called it by it's real name, IEEE 1394, but in video aquisition/editing it was king, no reencoding, just transfering bytes from camcorder to PC. At that time, mice still had PS/2, and if USB existed, it was USB 1, capped to 12 Mbit/s.
@@Qardo dude.... Try automation for a good laugths......And nigthmares... Just with the RJ-45 we have protocole like :
Modbus TCP....
Profinet....
Ethercat....
Powerlink....
SERCOS III
Some of them having variants for spécified use....like failsafe for sécurity...
And those are the ones bases on ethernet.....
Because there's some non ethernet based ones.... Like serial RS232 or RS485.
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE!!!!!!
All DV camcorders used FireWire. FireWire was released before USB and it was a lot faster than USB 1.0 and 1.1
Linus looking like he's about to pop a kickflip down a set of stairs
seeing Linus hot-swapping drives like that made me extremely uncomfortable.
I had no idea what was talked about half of the time,
But I liked it nonetheless.
Great presentation!
😂😂 u n me too
LOL I'm IT and was wondering if anybody but me and other people in the field knows any use for this :)
When the drive is named OO and drive letter is F: oof
bit disaapointed its not oef ^^
@@rodmongodwood *œf
@@FourOf92000 yes that one
Geez, the shadow of Madison is haunting LMG.
Big oef all the way
Fun fact: first title was these are totally different, let me explain. Now it’s these are not the same.
It’s really cool seeing a TH-camr I’m a fan of doing a video of a product made by the company I work for.
I love the happy-go movie music in the background as he talks about PCIe to SAS conversions and software RAID.
What the hell is this background music?
I feel like I'm watching a Disney classic.
Truly horrible
its the vacuum cleaner machine
iLinus, nerdy cousin of iCarly
When the cpu becomes the bottleneck of the transfer speed.
Drive to cpu: Look at me now, i am the boss.
I feel like I'm in a magical forest but it's actually just a tycoon game
For those interested in putting these in RAID 10 in a workstation, Broadcom and Highpoint do make reasonably priced RAID controllers.
Proper ones. As in, battery-backed caches, either PCIe 4.0 x8 or PCie 4.0 x16.
Not hard to shove > 25GB/sec through them for reads, and > 10GB/sec of writes, with triple the endurance of M2.2280 form factors.
Definitely enjoyed how you guys did this video vs some of the other more charty ones, really well explained, easy to understand 🤙
What did he say? I was listening to the Hallmark Christmas movie soundtrack.
I feel like a nerd watching these regularly but I'm quite sporty
Yes, because we all know, that being a nerd and doing sports and/or taking care of oneself are mutually exclusive. /sarcasm
You know, I'm something of a nerd myself :)
lmao i dont even know whats going on
oh no dont let your ball-handling friends catch you liking computer things, surely your social status would be reduced
Shut up man
Alternate answer: they have different labels
Great music on this episode. Kudos to the editor.
10:47 ... holy hell! You know what I thought of immediately hearing Linus's plan? ZFS Storage Array!!! The all NVME portion = ZFS Cache, and the all SAS portion = ZFS storage.
U.3 is AWESOME. If I still am working with physical servers, I would push my company to acquire this.
why is there a sims-sounding song in the background the whole time
because we live in a SIMulation
0:01 thought for a second it was sponsored by Nokia
Ikr I thought I was the only one who was thinking about the same thing lol
Yep
what's up with the The Sims-like background music? lol
Idk, but I kinda like it. Lol
Last time I checked, the "bulkier but slower" storage was mostly 3.5" drives, because fitting more than 1TB of spinning rust in a 2.5" drive is kinda hard. So I think the split between 2.5" and 3.5" backplanes is here to stay.
Damn why does always release videos that I actually need thank you
Linus: says "69"
Everyone else: "Nice"
Not gonna lie but I already said nice before he said it!
Drinking game: everytime linus says “go out and buy” you drink
But why would want to stay sober? I'd use every time he mentions lttstore.com for fast results
@@joshconfer209 nah, just drink everytime he says a word with the letter a in it
We would be drunk in seconds he says it so much
@@danhguitardemos yeah wed be dead in a matter of minutes
"me the average consumer..." Linus don't kid yourself
Being a It pro, this type of content just makes so happy.....inspire the new generation of IT pro's!
Yes, more people need to learn how to abuse hardware just like Linus, so we "IT Pros" won't ever run out of work.
Man s/o to the entire LTT team the quality of this video is insane, you can literally see the entire pcb gg guys!!
Wow, I'm really excited for data center administrators. Lol
I just wanted to see the image of Linus wearing himself 4:20 . Dont know what this video is about.
Linus: "We can hotswap any drive."
Me (and probably 3 other people) :
Floppy drive?
You're not alone, my friend)
kind of odd that this format isn't more popular on the consumer side of things. why have six m.2 slots when you can have three or four m2s and a u3, with probably more capacity in the u3 than all the m2s combined. m2s are only hitting 8tb, when u3s are reaching up to 30 - that's bigger than the biggest hard drives and the only things larger are sata ssds that are only about twice as fast as a standard hdd and are about the same price as a good u3. obviously it'd be expensive but a fair share of the consumer pc market is enthusiasts who would surely jump on these massive capacities at even pci3 speeds, that's a LOT faster than using hard disks for storage
I like this and alot of your other vids...this helped in a recent team I have been apart of
Linus looking more like a mountain man every video
Can't wait until I can build my gaming computer
I just want a rtx 3000
How is this comment related to the video?
@@doppiak2227 I just want a gt 600
@@doppiak2227 I’m just trying to play Minecraft bro
When he went "Oo Ee" I went "Ooh Eeh Ooh Ah Aah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing"
The voice crack at the 2 minute mark was my favorite "slot"
I can't wait for next week's video on the new SCSI standard coming next year
I love watching things that I can't buy.
I enjoy buying them. But nobody will take my money.
5:43 this is a sus ssd
Yes, Linus, you are "Putin"; Please stop farting in the studio when everyone is around you. Sheesh.
Always appreciate tech lessons with Mr. Linus.
For a gaming channel, I sure learn a lot about server tech.
Yeah, that wasn't "OO" Linus, it was drive letter "F".......sooo.....big OOF there boyo.
4:20 Linus is going to disappear tommorow
*W I D E P U T I N*
Lol
No one escapes the Russian inquisition
OmG iM sO eArLy
Beeing in Homeoffice, it's nice to hear the sound of server hardware again :-D Thanks Linus
That sound of the firewire destroying the USB port straight up gave me sensory overload, not even kidding
Pirate cosplay first thing that went through my mind as soon as he started talking lol love the vidz tho
I had an advert for Kioxia just before this video
I think the title should have something about u.3 in it. If someone tries to find info about it this video would be much easier to find. Great presentation tho gotta love server vids.
7:05 I'm hoping that tiny pillow is a little cheaper than $70
U.2 does have some level of compatibility with NVMe and SAS/SATA in the same form factor.
The Dell R6525 can do it if you order it with the NVMe/SAS/SATA backplane.
It does, however, not use a unified controller chip like U.3, which seems to be the big difference. The NVMe routes directly to the CPU's PCIe lanes, and the SAS/SATA runs to a separate PERC RAID controller. Not all bays are capable of NVMe, only some of them, but I believe they can all do SAS/SATA.
Some quick research says U.3 drives will work in U.2 servers, but U.2-compatible drives will not work in U.3 servers, because of how they changed the pin-outs on the connector.
wouldnt care less about servers but as a simple man i see linus i watch the entire video even the sponsor parts :)
U.3 is the equivalent of usb type c , easy sum up all, and is so cool :D
New intro is fire, me likey!
Excellent delivery on that slightly gravely "nice"
You can take out one of the PCIe brackets and run the cables through an unused PCIe slot out the back. This way the chassis's cover can fit. I've done this with a few Poweredge servers. Running it through an empty PCIe slot, not only look better but will shut up the fans and let you keep the unit to 1U.
That music makes me want to watch a Disney movie.
5:06-what are those 4 pins on the right of the regular SATA connector/port?
I didn't have it on my laptop's 2.5" HDD but when I upgraded it to a SSHD after a few years, it has those, but the cable didn't have any such connector.
Linus I don't know who made the intro but it's energizing me.😀
I'm dubious about the testing benefits. You can do some testing on a platform like this, but unless it's the only target platform, you still have to test it on all of the target platforms, so this would increase the test surface for most purposes, not decrease it.
Man, that was really weird seeing Linus with short hair and no beard...the added hair has definitely been an improvement ahaha
I love watching you videos even though I have no pc and cant afford one just seems interesting I don't know why also considering your Canadian eh and tim hortons is life
when you showed the fire wire carnage I instinctively went to close the tab
Anyone know the background track running from 6:00 to 9:00?
You should create a channel for just servers, network devices and software. Small IT depts would love it.
Lenovo has supported this for quite some time on their Epyc servers, called SR6x5, both single and dual socket systems. I build a few of them some time ago.