Batman v Superman - Nostalgia Critic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2024
- Angry Joe helps the Nostalgia Critic take a look at the crossover everybody wanted but nobody returned to see again.
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By the way, Wonder Woman was in this review
hello
+CAPTAIN-WOLF from the other siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide!
Aquaman's in the movie!
+BillFrypher hello
+Anthony Nunez This thread is about Wonder Woman.
Funny thing is, when I watched Avengers: Endgame, I was reminded of Joe's rant about Superman's Death at the end. Tony Stark's death is EXACTLY what Joe wanted to see for Superman. Has 22 movies to develop (granted he's not in all of them, but he's a present part of the universe throughout), goes out like a badass saving the day, and has the Avengers at his funeral.
We got there eventually, Joe. Maybe not with Superman, or even DC, but we got there.
This is why I hated The Fellowship of the Ring. Gandalf's death was wasted because they didn't make a trilogy for Gandalf prior.
@@zhengyingli atleast they made gandolf a good character, while superman was a two dimensional character in MoS and in BvS he's straight up just a walking plot point
@@zhengyingli But he died in the Fellowship of the Ring book. What were you hoping for exactly; a Hobbit film before the Lord of the Rings films?
@@matthewmuir8884 I was hoping for a solo movie for each of the dwarves, Gandalf and Bilbo.
@@zhengyingli How exactly? The fifteen dwarves aren't given nearly enough for each to have a solo film, and Bilbo's adventure is The Hobbit, and the fifteen dwarves and Gandalf are vital for The Hobbit. I hope you're joking, because that doesn't make sense.
Best line in the whole video
"We barely have a reason to hate each other except we hate the fact that the other one kills...I'LL KILL YOU FOR THAT."
I really liked "Nut up."
"Okay!"
Haha!
What're you talking about! This movie was just too deep for you to understand!
-Obnoxious Fans
+jagarcia0705 Superboy Prime reference.
People die if they are killed!
Joe’s wants:
• The team of a dead superhero at his funeral.
• The superhero to be wrecked before dying.
• To build a connection with this hero.
• To fear that this superhero will never come back.
• The superhero’s death to be earned because of so much focus being put on him throughout several movies.
MCU: Check, check, check, check, and check. Take notes DCEU.
Ultra Instinct God best comment
Lofous Cramwell Why thank you! It’s true though, am I right? Especially since (SPOILER ALERT)
Superman started the DCEU and Iron Man started the MCU.
@@supersaiyanfox9190 Yes u r exactly right!!!
Arrowverse: Check
@@lofouscramwell8236 no it fcking isn't shut the fcking hell up bot🖕
Joe: You know what I wanna see?!
Snyder: No?
There's your review. 1000% accurate.
18:53
@@gadielgonzalez2755 *DEMON JOE ARISES!!!*
Now you guys can see why I like Angry Joe
Well played, sir.
"You know what I wanna see?"
"No."
That's it. That's every one of the movie's issues explained.
Angry Joe :”How many comics were there before Superman died?”
Zack Snyder: “They made Superman comics?”
Zack Snyder would've asked if Ayn Rand wrote the comics
FATFLECK IS THE WORSE BATMAN WITH ADAM WEST
@@alexgrahamwyss7479 Affleck was better than Christian "throat cancer* Bale
@@godot8694 yes and no. the voice is kind of funny but i think bale is a better bruce wayne
@@alexgrahamwyss7479 adam west was amazing everything is better than fatfart
“Joe explains a goood death scene”
Marvel: write that down write that down
Yes
“Genius!”
Wait that's how from angry how show lol
Really because for the most part the death scenes in the MCU have been pretty shitty and the character usually ends up being brought back to life anyway thus invalidating said death scene
@@AncapOtaku Not really seeing as only s few were fake outs or resurrections. Most of the deaths were real.
What a shame. Eisenberg would have made a great Riddler.
Ikr
Yep
+Chest Pec Respect agreed.
+Chest Pec Respect He looks and acts the part too.
I thought he was the Riddler at first. Then it was revealed that he was Luthor I got really confused.
In Teen Titans Go! To the movies, when Batman and Superman hugged because their moms had the same name, I thought it was a made up joke. Turns out I was wrong...
You know a scene is bad when Teen Titans Go of all things makes fun of it.
@@craftymasterproductions4218 I mean, teen Titans go! To the movies literally made fun of all the DC movies at some point
That movie is probably one of DC's best movies and that brings too many thoughts to list out
You know it's bad when Teen Titans Go, of all shows, mocked a serious movie
Fun facts Superman is actor in the movie is Nicolas Cage as a reference to the Superman Lives movie that never got made
@@ezelfrancisco1349 To be fair, that movie was actually okay.
the big misunderstanding in this movie was the director said: "give me the guy who played Heisenberg", but the casting understood "give me Jesse Eisenberg"
And now I can't take this feeling of that it would been awesome.
or vin disesel as lex luthor
Bryan Cranston as Lex luthor? Fuck that would have been so awesome!
Eh, I would've much preferred Billy Zane as Lex Luthor.
7:44 Alfred wanting grandkids, even though he’s not related, is both precious and hilarious.
Blood Related no, but as weve seen time and again, Alfred is his Father, as Batman is the Robin's Father.
@@RoseEclipz I know.
@@trasegorsuch5140 Alfred may not've been his father, but he was his daddy.
They nailed wonder womans involvement in this movie.
+ThatOneShyguy Hello!
+ThatOneShyguy hello ^_^
You're saying Wonder Woman wasn't necessary in the movie?
(Hello.)
Hello! 8)
Zack Snyder: I can't build a cinematic universe. The cinematography just isn't there.
Warner Bros.: Here is the cinematography. Nolan's trilogy. I'm asking you to simply make it more epic.
Zack Snyder: Okay sir, but, honestly, it's impossible.
Warner Bros : KEVIN FEIGE WAS ABLE TO DO IT WITH THIRD-GRADE ACTORS! WHILE NEARLY BANKRUPT!
Zack Snyder : Well I'm sorry... I'm not Kevin Feige.
DOes that mean Warner Bros will go and extract the reactor from MCU the hard way?
Sorry but your comment was too fun to resist.
So true.
... Isn't that the scene where Obadiah Stane tells that one researcher to make an ARC Reactor for him?
+TheFerdi265 yes. It's perfect! 😂😂😂
*****
actually, all of us who commented here did
Honestly, the way Lex "Joker" Luthor roasted Lois was so brutal it made me like this version better than most others.
Teo Alonso I liked how he literally put on Joker’s suit!
I like how superman is also done with her that rant about how she used to be important and then literally says you used to be important
Heck, Trevor Mueller did a better performance in this review than Jesse Eisenburg’s version of Lex. XD
I always thought that it was more Riddler than joker
Jesse Eisenberg would have made a perfect DCEU Joker.
This year, the rant about Superman's death takes on a new meaning as we've finally seen an equivalent done almost perfectly -- and it turned out so well because of the very reasons that these critics described.
I feel like the rant is the equivalent of Iron man's death in endgame, everything Joe said add up to how Marvel EARNED iron man's death in a good way.
@@Kazzy234 Don't forget Arrow
That's a stupid argument though. Saying a death has to be "earned" through dozens of movies automatically cancels any death in a single movie or a trilogy
ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣ ΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ no, it’s only the case for Superman because Superman is special, he’s a hero, a symbol for many people. Not all deaths need to be like that, but they wanted a glorious one and to get that effect of a hero going out in a blaze of glory, those things need to be done. They don’t mean literally dozens, but having more time with the character in general. For example, in the dark knight trilogy, Batman’s sacrifice was impactful because you spent almost all of the runtime of the 3 movies with Batman.
@@ataraxia2894 The thing is though, Superman's death never aimed to be glorious , or impactful. Its purpose wasn't to generate strong emotions in you like iron man's death. After all we see he's alive during the post credit scene. The point was to show superman sacrificing himself to bring people hope and restore Batman's hope in humanity through that. So basically, the sacrifice was Snyder's way of making him become superman because up until the 3rd act of the movie he was still conflicted about who he was and who he wanted to be
Best Clipless Review. I thought the exact same thing with Lex Luthor and The Joker.
+joshscorcher hey love ur videos
JOSH 😱
I FUCKEN LOVE YOU.
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+joshscorcher I honestly think they had him be the Joker orginally but then half way decided hey let's make him lex for no reason at all.
"I don't know Commissioner Alfred" LOL
Is there a joke there? I'm afraid I don't get it.
Morgan Gobin ....whaa?
"I don't know Commissioner Alfred". I was wondering why you were laughing at that line. I thought it was a joke I didn't understand.
+Morgan Gobin LoL you dont know who Commissioner Alfred is?
+Sean Bowen No, no I do not. Can someone please explain? I'm so confused!
"Well that's still not gonna get me grandchildren."
"Not this again-"
"YES THIS AGAIN!"
DEAD
That had me DECEASED!
Goddamnit commisioner alfred. He already got some 3 robins. And ALL OF THEM ARE DEAD! Im pretty sure he has more...he's rich! He can buy an entire orphanage full of robins...and create another 8 orphanages
Just like Robin!
@@21700r boo.
Damian Wayne
Joe: I want to see the Justice League at his funeral.
MCU: Genius!
Joe: I want to see a hero slowly stripped of his life in the ultimate battle, instead of just being stabbed in one swoop.
MCU: Of course!
Joe: I want to build a connection with this Superman the same way he built a connection with me in hundreds of stories.
MCU: Getting there.
Joe: I want to fear that this might be the time that Superman doesn’t make it back.
MCU: Write that down! Write that down!
Russo: *Shows finished tic-tac-toe titled Ironman’s death in Endgame* Voila!
Could you imagine that really happening...by the time of this video perhaps they were not entirely sure how Infinity Wars and Endgame would play out exactly. By understanding Joe's rant, they knew how to stick the landing for the emotional climax to the series up to that point. That's how you earn a death in great storytelling.
@@mmjahink That and that would mean the MARVEL watches their reviews and videos and who wouldn't think that would be cool?
SpongeBob reference
Your God damn right Joe!!😎
19:02
Time stamp, fam.
Joe basically wanted the earned death for superman that iron man got in endgame.
So Joe didn't watch BvS?
Joe’s wants:
• The team of a dead superhero at his funeral.
• The superhero to be wrecked before dying.
• To build a connection with this hero.
• To fear that this superhero will never come back.
• The superhero’s death to be earned because of so much focus being put on him throughout several movies.
MCU: Check, check, check, check, and check. Take notes DCEU.
@Torika Gomutsutchi are you an idiot
@The Brightest Knight I'd rather see them "copy" the MCU rather than shove a bunch of stories into one movie, and pretend like this was a much better way of telling each heroes' stories. Superman could have used another movie. This version of Batman needed a movie or two, and Wonder Woman's first movie should have come out before BvS. They could have killed Superman after the first JL movie and revived him for a second JL movie.
If you think about it, Marvel knocked it out of the ball park twice with the death of Iron Man and Wolverine. And they’re done by two different studios.
"You know what I wanna see!? I wanna see the Justice League at his funeral, but now I can't! I wanna see a hero slowly stripped of his life in the ultimate battle instead of just being stabbed in one swoop, but now I can't! I wanna build a connection with this Superman the same way he built a connection with me in hundreds of stories, but now I can't! I want to fear that this might be the time that Superman doesn't make it back, but now I can't! How many comics were there before Superman died? Hundreds! _Thousands!_ And how many movies did you make with him? _Two!_ You killed him in two movies and you _barely_ even focused on him! You know what I wanna see? I wanna see you _EARN_ Superman's death! This isn't fucking Jimmy Olsen. This is *_GODDAMN SUPERMAN!_* HE DESERVES YOUR TIME AND RESPECT!!!"
...👏...👏...👏...
Jarek Gunther *claps in agreement*
Honestly, that was one of the best parts of the review. Trust me, I would clap at this scene like every time it was on.
My only objection is that Jimmy Olsen has been a character--with his own comic run, no less--almost as long as Superman, and longer than Marvel has been a *company*. He deserves respect, too.
RikoZerame he was trying to make the point that superman is more iconic and more well known than jimmy olsen. But i do agree with est on that thing joe said, especially the connection and the ultimate final battle. Even superman:doomsday, if you find it good or bad did take a long time to kill superman completely making us feel more for him since we see how hard he tries to keep us all safe even if he doesn't completely succeed
ilopominecrafter I just have a soft spot for Jimmy Olsen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The fact that Snyder appears to have killed him off just because people didn't like his Rule 63 version peeves me off.
I thought that bit with Luthor using jolly ranchers to bribe the guy was made for comedic purposes for this review.....and then I learned that actually happened in the movie thanks to erods review.....wow....
This comment made me cough wildly as I caught my gasp and spit went into my esophagus. You can't be serious
Well it is a bit exaggerated, but yeah....Jesse Eisenberg played a believable character, just not the Lex Luthor you know and love....more like a mix of Joker and a trendy CEO. That Jolly Ranchers scene included a part where Luthor shoved the rancher up the guy's mouth.
Tom Hur Wait, so you're making fun of a movie you never saw?
Same
Yeah, the Jolly Ranchers scene was a dumb way of showing that Lex's character was goofy and whimsical and that he didn't respect authority. The other problem with that scene is that Lex Luthor is actually a mature, charismatic billionaire and Eisenberg is playing him in a "Heath Ledger Joker meets Roger Rabbit" kind of way. He's impossible to take seriously.
Seriously never saw the film before this so thought the Jolly Rancher thing was a bit...then I saw the film and my jaw hit the floor...
It’s hilarious how Zack and his fans think Lex is a deep and complex villain when he’s doing shit like this
That was exactly my thought process too...
@@mrcritical6751 Lex is a deep and complex villian, just not Synder's version.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Remember, he blew up congress.
@@docrofreborn7497 not that hard to do.
The guy who played Zack Snyder in this was hilarious😂😂
+Jimmy Darmody He hosts our new show, Awesome Comics. Check him out - th-cam.com/play/PL0AQIMR-tpokRO4AEE6yxO8I8s33jsyMS.html
+Channel Awesome What's next?, The Joker is Lex?
And while we're on the subject, props to whoever played Lex in this, he was hilarious!
+Commander144 I really want to know who played Lex in this review. He's the best part by far.
+PoisonClaw4 Jessie esenburg
The comparison with the phone was so clever and funny!! LOL
You guys are great.
Thanks for watching!
Did Zack meet you both up?
Channel Awesome Good job with the reviews. Keep em up.
You guys really need to do a Civil War review. Imagine it: Critic vs Critic, Friend vs Friend, Team Nostalgia Critic vs Team Linkara
+Jake Bryant (The Rouge Owl) but that was a good flim:(
that rant from joe is SO DAMN AWESOME!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
+Jtyler12 Here, here. Perfectly states where the anger in the fans comes from. This was not a movie that sought to tell a story about these characters, it was about a filmmaker who wanted to attach his own name to these characters (i.e. Nolan-Batman, Snyder-Superman)
+ugaaa5
Ehh? According to what?
In rotten the movie has like (from non critics) 69 and un Imbd 7.2 and those opinions were highly biased, with a lot giving the movie 10/10
Ditto.
+ugaaa5 That makes me sad.
Let's put a smile on that face!!!
Lex Luthor? You're portraying Lex Luthor right now.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even the girl I saw BvS with had no prior DC knowledge and asked me as we were coming out 'so that guy (lex) becomes the joker right?'
Xray Shaun if he did it would make so much more sense
"Rawr. Rawr. I am your Doomsday. Bruugh. *I WILL FIND HIM!*"
*I WILL FIGHT HIM!*
* Doomsday plays MMOBA *
I WILL KITE HIM!!!!
That was the funniest part of the review for me, watching Rob emerge from the flames dressed up like that.
HERESY DESTORY IT!!!
+General Jo I WILL FIND HIM!!!!
I was dying when he said commissioner alfred
I swear I thought it was supposed to be Commissioner Gordon. Not Commisioner Alfred.
@@TheDatabaseNetwork you missed the joke
Zack Snyder: “Steppenwolf’s in the “Ultimate Cut,” of the movie!”
Steppenwolf: “Hello.” (lol)
No he's not. He just in Justice League. A very disappointing appearance by far.
Hopefully the Snyder Cut is good.
@@generalobiwankenobi8265 Keep a low bar of expectations
@@hailmendoza6106 Why do people even think that would be able to be good . The Snyder cut didn't fix anything last time so what makes people think it will fix anything this time .
@@Zeonite-pc5qp I think they're looking for more development from Cyborg and Flash, as well as less tonal confusion. At least that's what I'm looking for.
A better conflict set-up for Batman v Superman:
Batman: "Team Iron Man."
Superman: "Team Cap."
Batman: "This means war!"
+GdoubleWB yeah, uh, no. Have you even read The Dark Knight Returns? Bats would be Team Cap, and Supes would be Team Iron Man. Oh wait, that's pretty much the plot of TDKR before Civil War was even a comic.
To be more specific: Supes works for the government because "it's their world". Bats continues to be a vigilante despite pressure from high in the government and eventually the President orders Superman to stop Bruce, which he attempts because "they won't stand for you anymore." An epic clash of ideologies and a thrilling fight ensues.
Civil War: Iron Man works for the government because "we're too powerful". Cap continues to be a vigilante despite pressure from the government. After some tragedies, sides are chosen, lines are crossed, and a war begins.
Jack Hornblower Was just referring to the fact that those two pairings are similar in base facticity of character (i.e. billionaire, super-strength, etc.), but yeah, that set-up does make more sense. Good observation.
If you think about it, both Superman and Batman would be in Cap's side. Especially if you're talking about the comic version which is about secret identities. Here's why:
1. Both Superman and Batman have secret identities that they don't want to reveal because they know the consequences of it.
2. Neither of them want the government keeping tabs on them.
3. Superman believes in the same thing Captain America does and is a boyscout just like Cap.
Therefore, Iron Man and his side would get their asses kicked lol.
Watch the animated movies Batman: The Dark Night Returns 1 and 2 or better yet read the comic and then will see who kisses goverment's ass and who beats it.
Eduards Verenkovs To be fair, The Dark Knight Returns isn't canon. Superman was way out of character in that story.
Wonder Woman popping in to say hello every now and then was seriously cute!
very true
So... a trailer teasing an epic fight of differing opinions only to end up having the same opinion and just.... talking?
This is a metaphor, isn't it.
In The Man of Steel review, they fight. In this review, they team up. Next thing you know, they're gonna do a league team up of the other critics.
+The Hound That would actually be kind of amazing.
+Xentenial Almost like the movie
+Harrison Scott Yeah, exactly
+Xentenial Their Man of Steel review is what BvS should have been.
“Oh Clark, I’m drowning in the water” never fails to make me laugh
It's always nice to get a good laugh 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 at a joke like that
14:53 Same 🤣
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 I see what you mean by that
"And I'm Batman!"😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@noelanderson969 Nice one!!
This is why I don't like snyder, he just can't do epic story telling. He is like a more respectable Micheal Bay
Agree
That's actually so on point I can't even think of anything to add. You have a good day, sir.
yes sir
+XxXVideoVeiwerXxX Or Michael Bay is just Hyde and Zack Snyder is Jekyll.
+Mr.B Lopez (Lockdown1214) what Nolan is one of the best directors of our time bruh , but thats just your opinion so i wont start an argument
All in favor of DC having Doug and Joe co-write the rest of the DCU movies, say aye.
AYE!
+trebacca9 Aye, they would do much better.
they read comic books like me. so I say Aye.
+trebacca9 Aye
+trebacca9 Hell not. Have you seen what happens with critics try to write a script? I'll give you a hint. "Snapped necks".
Aye
Why couldn't Wonder Woman use the spear to kill doomsday? She's super strong like Superman and the kryptonite won't hurt her
MysticDragonPrincess
Because zack Snyder.
because she can't fly
this is quist She can run
To Quote Nostalgia Critic's Man of Steel review;
I AM JESUS! I AM JESUS! I AM JESUS! I AM JESUS!
MysticDragonPrincess because... forced plot point. We never knew him well, but forced says you always knew him and must be saaaaad
"Stop hypocriting where I'm hypocriting!" LMFAO 😆 Seriously, that was actually the thought I had seeing this film years ago when it came out.
The guy playing Zack Snyder is fantastic. 😂
Peyton Helfgot his voice though 😂
And cute
His name is Walter
Feel bad for him though
"You know what I want to see?"
"No."
And there's your problem right there
Snyder gets the blame, but people forget how much the studio intervened... I mean, the full cut of BvS was obviously better yet the studio didn't air that. And they forcefully tried to make Zack Snyder start a cinematic universe from a single movie... it was a movie that was rushed into existence. It obviously should not have been the second movie....
I mean, people say Zack didn't know what people want to see... but he stuffed the movie FULL of what people would want.. but it was WHEN we wanted it. There are TONS of clues about why Batman is darker and more cynical than before... but frankly, that should have been it's own movie BEFORE BvS... Snyder was forced by the studio to cram too much sh*t into a single movie because the studio wanted a cinematic universe....
@@TheDeathmail fuck no, Snyder is an asshole
@@TheDeathmail its a little more coherent, not better. Also, fuck Hack Snyder. All style no substance idiot. He'd be better off making music clips...
Zack’s essentially Michael Bay thinking he’s Stanley Kubrick. He thinks he’s making these deep character pieces you have to think about to fully understand but then he’s going around saying “once you lose your virginity to my movie”, you’d never see actual directors who create a balance between style and substance and try to create deep movies like Christopher Nolan saying that kind of stuff
John Wick I think the last movie I liked he made was watchmen and he left out the squid
"This isn't fucking Jimmy Olsen"
-Angry Joe
well, he is more jimmy olsen than the one in supergirl series. is like if jimmy olsen and flash thompson from spiderman homecoming decided to change physical features, with flash becoming geeky and jimmy buff. that's nonsensical.
an also, jimmy olsen deserves respect. Jack Kirby decided to use him for the main con ection to the Foruth World (DARKSEID debuted in jimmy olsen's comic)
"Is it getting chilly in here or is it because of the cold uselessness of your character?" That brings some warmth to the review.
"I WILL FIND HIM" that bit cracked me up
Ryan Gaterell I love the fact they highlight that Batman uses guns in the movie
fight*
@@Jmgjgdjd5 it's find not fight
@@Yoshikage8008 but it says fight in the subtitles
I WILL LIKE THIS!!!
Zack Snyder left production of Justice League...
(Crowd cheers)
Because his daughter committed suicide.
Crowd: oh.
One dude in crowd: Now I feel like an asshole.
In all seriousness: Rest in peace, Autumn Snyder.
wait did that actually happen?
Yep, it was tragic
damn... now I feel like an asshole for being happy that left production on the justice league movie
The awkward thing though, it didn't make things better. In fact, IMO, it made the movie even worse that he left.
I like BvS. but Justice League was a pyle of crap, with 1 good (Superman looks at Flash at superspeed).
@@samstone011995 I agree with you. BvS was awesome but Justice League was crap.
Huh, that's new. A clipless NC review where people AREN'T hating him for it.
Ikr
+Jay I think it speaks to how much Doug, Joe and most of the audience expected better from BvS than what they got, so someone had to vent out their frustrations.
Also, IMHO both the Pixels and Star Wars VII reviews are pretty well-done.
his crossover reviews (Man of steel ,the smurfs and TMNT) are my favorites .
+Jay
I guess you forgot Pixels and Jurassic World already.
+Jay This 'review' is halfassed even worse than the haters of BvS are saying the movie is halfassed.
Superman: *crushes Batmobile*
Batman: “oh *REAL* mature!”
Yes we saw
James Bond Batsurance!
Says the guy who brands criminals like cows and murdered a ton of guys for a green rock
@@generalobiwankenobi8265 Autopayed every month with the BAT CREDIT CARD!
@@thekiller7994 Who cares they're criminals not ppl, cows are the ones who don't deserve brandings.
Honestly this reinactment review is better than the movie they're reviewing imo.
That's the charm of it
ThatWasLeftHanded No, the ultimate edition of the film is incredible and is what should have been released in theaters. Zack makes amazing films, but he needs to stop working for Warner Brothers because they are the ones who keep chopping up his films: Watchmen, Sucker Punch, Batman V. Superman, and Justice League!
@@jamesmoyner7499 stop trying to defend a Zack, he made horrible superhero movies and just because your a fan of him doesn't mean you have to kid yourself into believing that these are good moves
pedro guerrero I know right, and he’s actually trying to defend Sucker Punch for crying out loud.
Stannis 'The Mannis' Baratheon
Sucker Punch is an awesome film where Zack Synder says the following:
It is about a strong female character that speaks directly to the audience by using allegories of their own view of women and girls in pop culture through feminist history, and use their own familiar stereotypical action fetishes against themselves. Teaching young girls to fight against repressed society and young boys enjoy strong female characters for how strong they are, instead of just their beauty.
Movie Goes/Reviews sees this: Zack Snyder made a bland film featuring young girls in his own fantasy fetish of different pop culture genres, win non-nonsensical action sequences, and boring characters. Showing the worst kind of how women are used in pop culture.
I think somewhere things get lost in translation. I feel when people see Zack Snyder films they turn off their brains and see everything literal and never adds their brain to read the images that appear on the screen at all.
Joe's rant is the best thing in the history of the universe.
Hayden The geeky maniac Hell, he's got a point and I agree with it.
You mean at 18:53
@@gadielgonzalez2755 he comes across as an entitled nerd to me.
Lol
Nope. He just sounds like a whiny, entitled loser.
Wonder Woman occasionally walking through the frame and saying "Hello" was a really nice touch.
+Jeff Sol
More so than the one from the movie?
Probably yes.
Batman v Superman: I am the most anticipated comic book endgame
Endgame: Hold my bee-
Thor: Gimme that. CHUGS BEER
Thor:CHUGS BEER
4:37 6:47 7:32 "I'm in the movie!!!" :D
hooray
Hello
Meavy Hetal snarky respose, but you still got the reference right?
hi wonder woman
+Marcel Fioo bye wonder woman!
Watching him slowly become the Joker is amazing
Again?
Interesting fact: In the early version of the script, Luthor worked in pairs with the Joker, as in the animated series of the 90s.
But Warners wanted to introduce the Joker in Suicide Squad, so his powers were transferred to Lexa (in fact, they crossed two characters into one) and that's why he turned out so crooked.
Usually I don't like skit reviews but this one was hilarious.
agreed
Ehhhh. The constant going back to obvious-straw-man Snyder felt like it was discrediting what they were actually saying... when you write the opponent as a doof, you can't feel validated by or on the side of what the reviewers are saying. You're laughing at a mean-spirited caricature of the film, not the film itself.
+Crystal_Costello Same
+Crystal_Costello isn't this the only thing they can do now? what with youtube's BS copyright system?
+Ty Gently Snyder is suppose to represent the problems with the movie not Snyder himself. Besides its satire and like Doug always says that in comedy,someone will be negatively affected. So, since Snyder came up with a lot of the ideas in this movie, he has to be the one negatively affected.
I think these reenactments are better than actual footage from the films. So hilariously entertaining.
It's a shame. Eisenberg was a better Joker than Jared Leto.
And Jim was better than both.
Trisket He would have been an awsome Riddler or anyone else from Arkham.
Trisket nope Jared was better
Trisket they should have switched the roles
Maybe they switched scripts
"I want to see the Justice League at his funeral (...) I want to see a hero slowly striped of his life in the ultimate battle".
Dude, this is Iron Man and Avengers in Endgame.
Gonzalouch Ikari von Faustus+ Marvel acknowledged and applied that quote.
DC couldn't even realized in all these years.
But Superman did it first... In the comics
@@wrestlinganime4life288 Mar-Vell did it long before Superman, and he stayed dead.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 Did anyone cared thou?
@@wrestlinganime4life288 Yes, Mar-Vell's death is considered one of the most famous deaths in comics history. Just because you didn't read comics before 1990, and only heard about The Death of Superman because it was in mainstream news doesn't mean no one else did.
Warner Bros : KEVIN FEIGE WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE ! WITH A TEAM OF SCRAPS !
Zack Snyder : Well I'm sorry... I'm not Kevin Feige.
+The94Venom OMG hahaha
+The94Venom
Who's Kevin Feige?
+JW_Gojifan President of Marvel Studios :p
The94Venom
I didn't know
+The94Venom I understood that reference!
Lex: Your mama says bleh.
Superman: Bleh?
Lex: She will when I slit her throat!
Superman: Mama!
I love Joe's cry there! Makes me laugh every time!
Lex: "Now go kill Batman because I think it will be cool."
Okay.
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Teacher: hand in your homework
Me : *jumps in a tub*
Teacher: why do you not have your homework
Me: because I’m standing in the bathtub
Teacher : good point
Clorox Bleach jjm
Clorox Bleach Why is there a bathtub in your classroom?
xDDDDDDDDDDDD SOoOoO RaNdUm!!1!!!!
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Whaaa...
:)
Jesse Eisenberg acted more like the ridler.
He was channeling his best Jim Carrey's Riddler the best he could; it was weird but not in a good or enjoyable way. And I like Jesse Eisenberg
SoLoMoN DaViDSoN Honestly? I feel like it could have worked. If it was a ploy he put on for the public.
Definitely would have been better seeing him play the Riddler, and have this movie take place in Gotham instead of Metropolis, which makes sense since Batman was more focused on anyway!
Like a poor man's Jim Carrey.
"*Sigh* Don't you watch these movies? We don't save people from destruction, we bring it to THEM!!"
That might be the most bullshit criticism in this review. The heroes in these movies are always trying to get the villains away from civilians.
@@mr.barcode3186 Unfortunately, the movies, at least the first two, Man of Steel and BVS, didn't present that well. Man of Steel had all that destruction in Metropolis and BVS had them fighting Doonsday in parts of Gotham and Metropolis and the excuse was that they were nearly empty, uninhabited, or abandoned when that likely would not be the case.
Mr. Barcode they say they always try to get the villains away from civilians but they don’t show it.
Congratulations to Angry Joe and Nostalgia Critic and the rest of the crew that helped to make this amazingly entertaining video
It’s better than the actual movie. 😅
@@georgeeastwood6930after rewatching the movie it really is.
I don't always agree with you guys, but this one was 100% spot on! Nice work.
+Sean Anderson Thanks!
+Channel Awesome Doug how do you feel about Michael Bay raping our childhood again with TMNT 2?
+Ganda Panda Micheal bay not director of TMNT. he just executive producer.
Yeah, that means he has a lot of control over the movie.
+Ryuzaki Raiga Executive producer has more control than the director. Ben Affleck is now executive producer of Justice League. The EP has veto power over the director and is in charge of all post production. That includes calling reshoots.
I love how Critic was just sitting there nonchalantly with explosions in the background. XD
same
Cool guys don't look at explosions.
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"ditto"
Someone's going to be making a meme of that soon........and it will be me.
*Joe gives his rant at the end about Superman's death...*
*Sits down...*
*Silence...*
*I get up and start slow clapping...*
*People join in...*
*Turns into thunderous applause and cheering*
You too, eh?
+10INTM I wish that part can be edited out, go viral w/ 10 million views, and someone at DC sees it.
+Arul Gupta Amen to that. They didn't earn it. Heck if he had gone out in Returns that could've been a "Death of Superman" I could get behind. This movie took the Man of Steel and pissed on a legacy that most comic book characters will never have.
Lex Luthor slowly becoming the Joker was just fucking hilarious. I'd describe Eisenberg's Luthor as more Riddler than Joker though.
tamara as wonder woman always passing just saying hello makes me laugh always
Someone should green screen it
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I was looking for this comment 😂😂
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.....Hello!......
The guy playing Zack Snyder made this 1000 times funnier.
True he's a freaking good actor XD ! (they all are actually but this is the first time I see him in a NC video) anyone knows his name btw ??
+Saku Haru Walter Banasiak
+16 Bit Deathmetal Covers Thanks !! :)
+Saku Haru he's got his own show in channel awesome called "Awesome Comics"
+Mujamb Zack Snyder has been fired and will no longer make anymore DC movies...
Someone PLEASE make a gif of Doug sitting bored with the fiery Angry Joe explosions in the background
+GigaBowserNS This thatchickwiththegifs.tumblr.com/post/143082985335/current-mood
Channel Awesome
Brilliant!
+Channel Awesome You have done Great work Once again.......
And the "I've got jolly ranchers!"
“Dark and aggressive vs kind and hopeful” doesn’t work in the snyderverse because all Snyder does is constantly leak dark and aggressive onto any screenplay he touches.
Also, I’d argue that batman is all about hope. Hope that he can stop even one person from experiencing what he did, hope that he can live in the shadows and be a force for good, hope that he can make a way of life from violence and vigilance and not succumb to rage or paranoia, hope that even the most run-down streets of gotham might one day shine again, hope that even the worst villains could come back from their deeds with some mental help. And most of all, hope that a grim and gritty vigilante with a belt full of weapons and a head full of neuroses can be an unequivocal force for good.
But hey... SYMBOLISM BITCH
MOS and BvS were actually more lighthearted and deep at first, then Zack walked into the room and his aura caused the screenplays to mutant and turn into the dark and gritty movies you see now
@@mrcritical6751 Even Christopher Nolan was against the idea of Superman snapping zod neck in such poorly excuted way..
That says a lot
Nolan is the kind of guy who knows how to relax and move away from the darkness from time to time like the private boat scene in TDK or almost any scene with Lucius Fox. Snyder only has one mode, dark and edgy this is the same guy who described the experience of watching BvS as losing your virginity. It’s obvious he wants to be deep and complex and in some cases has the capacity but is held back by a need to push things to the extreme and make everything bigger and more action packed, this is the guy who filmed BvS as an R despite the movie having a deal to get Lego sets and children’s toys for crying out loud
@@mrcritical6751 the biggest problem with Snyder style is that he used visual storytelling to characterise Superman in Mos and Bvs... WHICH IS STUPID.!!
People need to interact with this Superman otherwise there is no connection.
Also the colour palette in Bvs is atrocious :
Batman was OK but Superman? Did his suit screamed light and optimistic like HOW HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE?!.
Also the Martha scenes makes no sense
Batman the world greatest detective.. Couldn't figure out that Superman is Clark Kent? That he has a mother? Was Batman seriously going to kill Superman?.
WTF is wrong with Snyder
Batman:you never answered me. Do you bleed. you will
Superman:what was that
Batman:nothing
Superman smashes batmobile
Batman: OH REAL MATRURE
+Sherman Brown Batman: Oh, real mature!
If you think about it, when Batman said "[y]ou will", it wasn't to himself because he knew that Superman had superhearing, so.....
Ohhh...you saw the video too?
Thank you for stating what I thought was clear the whole time...Eisenberg was never trying to play Lex Luthor, he was trying to play Ledger's rendition of the Joker. And it epically failed because Luthor isn't the Joker.
But it was a symptom of a greater problem...nowadays everyone wants their superhero films, and the superheroes in them, to be just like Nolan's Batman films...dark, moody, gritty...even though that only works for Batman, not every other superhero. The Marvel Universe at least seemed to catch on to that, but if DC doesn't do the same they'll keep putting out mediocrity.
Jesse Eisenberg's portrayal of Lex was mostly influenced by Superman: Birthright's young Lex Luthor with the long hair and spastic behavior. Him acting like a mad scientist was not at all similar to the Joker, but rather to Lex's roots prior to John Byrne's reboot in the 80's.
In other words, Lex in BvS is an amalgamation of the character's history in the comics, with motives not at all similar to the Joker's. Those equating the two have no fundamental understanding of the characters.
I think you raise an interesting point. I think what Nolan's trilogy has ushered in is a number of films where the protagonist has to be more complex or interesting than they were in past films. Darker tones aside, Nolan's films were a lot about humanising Batman, probably the easiest hero to humanise. But he made the character seem so real, so human, it was actually pretty believable. Marvel learned pretty well from this. Most of their films star heros who aren't perfect, there's complexity and struggle, sometimes with pretty serious issues.
DC, weirdly, I think took the trilogy wrongly. Instead of adpoting the character complexity they adopted the darker overtones and the the plot complexity. The result is that all of their films feel like their trying to replicate Nolan's trilogy. Perhaps the next slew of films will prove different, it's certainly been a rocky start, but we'll see. There's so much potential for DC if they do it right, there is a gargantuan gold mine to be squandered should they dig the right tunnels but right now they're digging in all the wrong places.
Rex67Diego9 fandub have you ever read the comic superman birthright?
he nails the lex luthor in that comic a genius scientist who stutters a lot
Rex67Diego9 fandub he was more menacing and dangerous then most mcu villians
Rex67Diego9 fandub Pointless? He planned on killing Superman, and succeeded.
Much as I hate how restrictive these copyright strikes are, the re-enactments are a joy to see.
Zack Synder: "Hey, you're just playing a few minutes from Batman Begins."
Angry Joe and NC: "Exactly."
BTW wonder woman is in the comments
Wonder woman:hello
When Rob appeared as Doomsday, that was priceless! 😂
I will find him!!!
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15:55
This had me laughing for hours
Same
I WILL FIND HIM
+TOTTO9508 NUCLEAR MAN!!
amazing!!
+TOTTO9508 17:51
just as good.
Zack Synder: "Look Aquaman's in the movie."
Aquaman: "Hello."
"Let's put a smile on that face-ah!" :D
"I will find him!"
TBrian I will find him!!!!!! ......... what I WILL FIND HIM ... what I WILL FIND HIM......... no you wont bye
"I will fight him!"
One of the best NC's in a while! This one legit had me laughing out loud!
I agree!
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The Joker's reveal was the best part to me.
amen
Tamara's voice was really annoying in this one though
At least Injustice had a good plot with everybody basically in it
Walter is such a great Zack Snyder, in the same way Doug is a great Michael Bay
Bryan Cranston = Lex Luthor = what could've been one of the best villain performances in a superhero film next to Heath Ledger's joker.
+theplayifier holy shit....... holy shit.
THAT'S WHAT MY FRIEND SAID LAST SUMMER ! HE'S PERFECT FOR THE ROLE!
OH MY FUCKING GOD, WHY DIDN'T BRYAN CRANSTON BE LEX?
Nope.. He is to old and would only be Heisenberg 2.0
Its hillarious that Joe claims to be an enormous Superman fan, yet call Jesses Lex nothing like Lex yet look no further to Superman Birthright and you see Jesses Lex
+Armando Torres Because he is to old and would not fit the version they wanted which is Birthright Lex Luthor
raw.... ra.... I WILL FIND 'IM!!!
The lead-up to the "epic conclusion" when he just mildly waves his arms was priceless.
+Ｓｔａｙｎｉｆｔｙ I WILL FIGHT HIM!!!
that killed me XD
The worst sin this movie committed was not that it was outright dogshit on a crusty roll, a la The Last Airbender, but it was that it was just... passable. It was a movie with some cool fight scenes undermined by the hollow void of plot holes underneath it and the raw taste of underdone character development. This had the potential to be a fantastic movie, but the studio was in such a bloody rush to catch up with the MCU that it tripped on it's own shoelaces, did a flip and faceplanted into the dirt. It was an impressive flip, but it still resulted in a busted nose and three lost teeth.
Word. I watched it and ... somewhat enjoyed it? I still keep telling people I know that it's not terrible, it's worth a watch. But it could have been SOOO MUCH BETTER, and it SHOULD have been! It doesn't deserve the hate for being shit. The premise just got fucked up. It's a decent flick, just far, FAAAAR from what we expect now.
The flip was about as impressive as a pig flouncing onto mud.
Tan Ghil I don't think it was garbage(I honnestly seen worse) but wasn't that supposed to be a fun summer blockbuster? It was so underwhelming that I think I had more fun watching the Minions!
Zombiewithabowtie plus it fused Batman versus Superman The Death of Superman and the Injustice storyline's into one movie that's the problem all those should have been three separate move inside of one okay one the Artemis Fowl movie that's coming out it's fusing the first three books into one movie so they would either have to make the movie extremely long or it's going to suck
justice league hasn't happened yet. we're still waiting. hopefully it's as good as avengers!
*cries quietly*
Things that bothered me about this movie
1. Lex Luther as a whole and especially the freaking jolly rancher scene like wtf was he trying to seduce the man.
2. The way Doomsday was made in this movie was horrible. It was just a forced climatic ending
3. The reason Batman and Superman stopped fighting.
Batman calls his mom's name and Superman was like your mom has the same name we must be bros now...
Just gonna throw out there that cinemawins gave a actual reason for supes and bats to stop hating each other.
That's not even close to why they stopped fighting
@@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ then how did they stop fighting?
@@thekiller7994 They stopped because when Batman saw Superman, the guy he considered to be an alien without feelings, ready to die to save his mom, he realized the truth. That Superman is just like him.
And if Superman is Bruce what is Bruce who was about to kill him in cold blood?
Joe chill.
That realization made him stop
The jolly rancher scene is what parlour trick magicians do. Diverting the audience's attention from the actual trick. In Luthor's case he distracted that guy with the jolly rancher so that they'll agree to give him access to the cryptonian ship without second guessing his motives
16:56 the 1998 ‘Godzilla’ film is the perfect example of this concept.
Agreed,that’s why he’s called Zilla or GINO
So fucking true
The 2014 ‘Godzilla’ or as I call it FATZILLA, is an even better example.
I like to call the problem of this movie "plot paradox".
You put so many plot points into a movie that you can't really focus on one and end up with basically no plot.
That’s a nice way of putting it.
It’s like Zack Snyder watched Amazing Spider Man 2 and was like “Hey I can do this too.” 2014-2016 (ASM2, Fant4stic and BvS) were times when comic book movies were made as overly long trailers than being focused on coherent narratives!
“When is a plot not a plot?”
Human and kryptonian DNA? They were so close to making Superboy....but no
could have made a bizarro, and would have had the same purpose, and saved Doomsday as a villain for later
Veronica Agnelli Bizarro was literally made by Superman getting hit by a mirror ray
Ermac Macro yes and no, bizarro has been made several different time through comic book history, sometimes he’s a being from another demension, other times he’s a mutated clone
Ermac Macro Never forget anything in comics has atleast dozens incarnation
Should've used Bizarro and saved Doomsday for JL 😑
(Avengers: Endgame Spoilers)
19:10 - 20:05: This is the part where Marvel Studios and the Russo Bros. pull it off beautifully when it comes to completing Tony Stark's story arc (no pun intended): we've followed his cinematic adventures since 2008, understanding his relationship with other characters, his motivation and pains as well as laughing at some off his wise cracking humor and when it comes to that 'scene' where it involves almost all of the characters of the Infinity Saga, we all shed a tear. It's a massive difference from Zack Snyder's horrible handling of Superman's death where I feel absolutely nothing at all.
Glen Wang you beat me to it
Glen Wang Agreed. That's why Fellowship of the Ring was awful because I felt nothing for Gandalf's death since they didn't spend a decade exploring his character.
@@zhengyingli Wrong. Complete Apples to Oranges. Fellowship of the Ring was a direct adaptation of a book series where Gandalf dies in the beginning, not a cinematic universe. Comparison makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Like Joe said, it took hundreds and thousands of comics for Superman to die, so that wasn't even faithful to the adaptation, let alone remotely emotional. LOTR is a set specific story with a beginning, middle, and end, DC and Marvel are comics that have a completely different structure. Get better.
Joe’s wants:
• The team of a dead superhero at his funeral.
• The superhero to be wrecked before dying.
• To build a connection with this hero.
• To fear that this superhero will never come back.
• The superhero’s death to be earned because of so much focus being put on him throughout several movies.
MCU: Check, check, check, check, and check. Take notes DCEU.
You can tell throughout the movies that the main characters really are Steve Rogers and Tony Stark.
I WILL FIND HIM!!!!!!!!
I WILL FIGHT HIM!
Rah rah I am doomsday rah rah
8:07 this. just this. I'll die happier now
+dramasweety you beat me to it
***** That was my evil plan all along. HOW DID YOU KNOW?! ;P
This Luther actually has more character than the real
Luther in the movie .
*Raises hand*
I liked it.
Interesting fact: In the early version of the script, Luthor worked in pairs with the Joker, as in the animated series of the 90s.
But Warners wanted to introduce the Joker in Suicide Squad, so his powers were transferred to Lexa (in fact, they crossed two characters into one) and that's why he turned out so crooked.
Don’t worry Joe. You may not be able to see the Justice League at Superman’s funeral, but at least you got to see the Avengers at Tony Stark’s funeral
But it's not the same...
Lol the wonderwoman "Hello" part and walking away just makes this so dope
khuhu tlu
Made me laugh
"It's not about just having these moments, it's about earning them" - Joss Whedon.
"I WILL FIND HIM!!!"
Bruce: Who’s that?
Clark: that’s Lex
Bruce: noooo
Me: i knooow😭😭