Did Slavery Affect Your Family? Africans vs African Americans | Middle Ground

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  • @PrettyBrownEyes718
    @PrettyBrownEyes718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20063

    Always wanted to hear this conversation, but without a black American woman there you're missing a significant perspective. The impact of American slavery and everything else (systemic racism, welfare system, etc) on the black American woman is profound.

    • @nana8135
      @nana8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +743

      thank YOU

    • @OTB2002
      @OTB2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are Africans doing better in America compared to black Americans?

    • @lexvt3551
      @lexvt3551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +479

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @gillianmurphy2111
      @gillianmurphy2111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1186

      I can't believe they couldn't find a black American woman to speak on this topic. Swing and a miss Jubilee.

    • @mizmimi54321
      @mizmimi54321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +790

      NO FOR REAL big fumble on Jubilee when there are countless texts easily available that talk about how Black women are ignored and overlooked in conversations about the Black experience

  • @InternetGirl1093
    @InternetGirl1093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16676

    I appreciate that Elizabeth acknowledged that many Africans see African Americans as just complaining, but realized the nuances that exist on both sides. That was great to hear.

    • @Ten_dai
      @Ten_dai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly because a ton of Africans don't seriously study history in school until uni, if even then,much less the history of the United States and African Americans so the ones who make those type of statements are usually doing it from a place of ignorance. Often it takes them decades of lining in the US to realize certain things. Others know what to expect but choose to deal with racism like a sort of 'immigrant tax', the price for the American dream.

    • @twistedbliss58
      @twistedbliss58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +568

      Because they are, very few people today have had their lives affected by slavery

    • @adrianna5378
      @adrianna5378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1017

      @@twistedbliss58 Definitely segregation though. It wasn’t that long ago.

    • @KimmyLL1890
      @KimmyLL1890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1443

      @@twistedbliss58 every single thing and everyone in America is affected by slavery that’s how the country even exists today. They are not “complaining” because they acknowledge that fact.

    • @Kyrobucks
      @Kyrobucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      @@adrianna5378nobody age 30 or below have to deal with it though. Those are the main ones complaining.

  • @somebodyoulove
    @somebodyoulove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9513

    Africans went through colonization and African Americans went through slavery. We all have different but some what similar histories. Also this group seem so intelligent and respectful.

    • @woodzy4984
      @woodzy4984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Africans were sold buy their own country so I guess they went through slavery too.

    • @itsymmetry137
      @itsymmetry137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1499

      Africans also went through slavery; in fact, they played an integral part in creating the transatlantic slave trade.

    • @thepubquiz3198
      @thepubquiz3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +569

      Everybody went through Colonization and slavery.

    • @nirvanak4634
      @nirvanak4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +859

      @@thepubquiz3198 This video isn’t about everybody

    • @marianabulhosa4198
      @marianabulhosa4198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      africans went through slavery in all their history wtf

  • @metalwheelz
    @metalwheelz หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    We're not "obsessed" with where you're from, we're "interested" in where you're from. When a person sees or hears something different than what they experience all the time, it piques their interest. It is human nature to want to learn about new things and experiences.

    • @Mari-es9qo
      @Mari-es9qo หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      So then many africans shouldnt talk down to african americans like they are better or we are just spoiled, africans have never experienced or went thru what AA went thru and same goes for AA about Africans

    • @DL-xl3rz
      @DL-xl3rz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      THANK YOU !

    • @KK-lg8uz
      @KK-lg8uz หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Mari-es9qo you do realise slavery was already booming in Africa before it happened in America? It still exists there now

    • @theunknownorpheus7396
      @theunknownorpheus7396 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah black people don't know how to use words 😂

    • @SacredWaves
      @SacredWaves หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@KK-lg8uz
      Shhh! Don't tell them that. The truth is rac-ist. My comment was they needed to ask who sold who's family to the Arab.

  • @itsnatemate7697
    @itsnatemate7697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3808

    “But it’s still nothing compared to…”
    “I wouldn’t want to minimize that pain, what you just said hurt me…”
    I teared up. That’s how it should be nowadays. Instead of people putting down other marginalized groups history and gaslighting them with “well that was a long time ago” or “stop playing victim”

    • @klaudinegarcia8932
      @klaudinegarcia8932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IKR??? White people make it sound so easy to move on. African Americans were enslaved for 400 years or more. Do they really expect healing can happen over night??? 😅 And it's not just slavery trauma African Americans are struggling with. They're also struggling with an identity crisis because their ancestors had to assimilate (more like erase) their culture and language.

    • @neyou6940
      @neyou6940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bunch of pussies

    • @Ninuoluwa
      @Ninuoluwa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      Yea that part touched me too. ❤

    • @heyitsbroski
      @heyitsbroski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      While it is tragic, they need to stop thinking they're the only ones that suffered. People of all races were slaves at one point or another and the transatlantic slave trade was NOT the worse of all-time. They need to start blaming their own people, the Africans that sold them to the Europeans for weapons. Blame the Jews that owned and operated the ships that brought them over. Staying in the victimhood mentality will always give them a reason to blame others rather than taking action of their own lives to better themselves and their culture.

    • @swanton47
      @swanton47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +328

      @@heyitsbroski chattel slavery is nothing like the other forms of slavery and nobody said we were the only ones. The fact that other people were slaves does not minimize what we’ve been through when those scars and the affects are literally still here today. There were wars fought to get us back and some slaves were prisoners beforehand. And damn ok blame everyone except the white colonizers? Jews didn’t have as big of a role as you think

  • @dylagence443
    @dylagence443 ปีที่แล้ว +7205

    We need a African parents vs American parents episode, the chaos that would happen would be insane

  • @ParadiseLoading
    @ParadiseLoading ปีที่แล้ว +3377

    It is so refreshing to see an actual dialogue with no screaming, yelling, name-calling, or cutting people off mid-sentence. I loved the mutual respect!

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      That's yt behavior. Since there are none present, you see civility.

    • @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0
      @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      @@deejay7339 That’s racist

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 facts can't be racist

    • @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0
      @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@deejay7339 What about your comment is factual? Watch you not respond, avoid the question, or straight up lie.

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 All of my comment is factual. ✅ And nice job thumbs upping yourself in a min lmao.

  • @JeromeProductions
    @JeromeProductions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    As a Jamaica American whom most of my family is Jamaican and I was born and raised in the US, I have a lot of respect for this video

  • @KamariaP
    @KamariaP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2267

    This episode is how Africans and African Americans should be towards each other. I loved how open and accepting everyone was towards the different opinions. As someone who is African American, it does feel like there is a divide between us when there shouldn't be. I wish as a whole we could be more like this. Great conversation guys!

    • @sasazamami
      @sasazamami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      but if you listen to the answers, you can hear how the Africans are grateful to the White Americans and that is what make us different. they have abandoned their homeland to do the white man's bidding and undermine the Black American struggle for reparations and liberation.

    • @dansmodacct
      @dansmodacct 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sasazamami well said

    • @justwallace
      @justwallace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      cause we didnt create the divide

    • @angela7014
      @angela7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@sasazamami stop whining

    • @sasazamami
      @sasazamami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@angela7014 where you from?

  • @catherinecampbell1215
    @catherinecampbell1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +921

    As a black person born and raised in America with a Nigerian dad, this conversation is really great to see.

    • @nigeriansista
      @nigeriansista ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yes, same here! I have a Nigerian dad and American mom

    • @miurtouissi1093
      @miurtouissi1093 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do you consider yourself African American?

    • @maryb.5668
      @maryb.5668 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@miurtouissi1093 I'm also a Nigerian raised in America. I don't consider myself African American because I'm truly not a direct descendant of slaves. Culturally though, Im a mix (I grew up under AA influences outside but at home, it was all Nigerian). It gets a bit complicated. but I consider myself a Nigerian simply living in America

    • @miurtouissi1093
      @miurtouissi1093 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@maryb.5668 this is interesting. I'm Canadian from the Caribbean and I consider myself Canadian. I've always wondered how other black people from the diaspora living in the USA felt about their identity since AA have a strong culture and history but also being born in America for most makes you American. I guess I thought you would always see yourself as a Nigerian American but then I would also understand not since I would say I'm Canadian. I guess the slavery aspect of it is part of AA identity. I hadn't thought about that since I myself am a descendant of slaves.

    • @bryant475
      @bryant475 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It comes down to Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC), not race. Africans/Caribbean tend to be more successful because of PMC, that places high value on Godly morals, hard work and education, etc. Similar to Asians and other groups. Victim vs Victor mentality!

  • @mosandkaka
    @mosandkaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4539

    As an African I appreciate the efforts of African Americans for fighting for the betterment of all black people in America. Without that fight us Africans would not be benefiting from these benefits.

    • @merrytunes8697
      @merrytunes8697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +479

      Thank you! That seems to be lost on some, as the only welcomed immigrants for decades were from European countries. Without the African American fight, there would be no African immigrants.

    • @cutiepiettvjackson8744
      @cutiepiettvjackson8744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      This is true, without the fight, Africans would be sent back to Africa and not even allowed the benefit of a better life, bullied, etc. All the things blacks went through would be put on Africans and it would be horrific, so the fight was worth it in the end. I do believe Black America has gotten way better for blacks.

    • @floridababy974
      @floridababy974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      What benefits?

    • @Nostalgia-im6wi
      @Nostalgia-im6wi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@merrytunes8697 YES!! Sometimes it's so difficult to explain this to people for some reason.

    • @pierrejacque1994
      @pierrejacque1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@merrytunes8697 oh men thank you oh afro american but we are the richest black we also suceed thanks to our work

  • @lex1eleven
    @lex1eleven 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    Im glad my parents came from a 3rd world country (Tonga) rented 1 room from an elderly white lady with my grandparents and older 2 siblings in the 70s. Poor with no english in a new country they cleaned homes, collected cans in the streets and fast forward 50 years today all 6 of my siblings are homeowners and 4 are business owners. We gather every year at my parents rented home(50 year renter's in the same home) in Los Angeles and celebrate the American dream our parents struggled for so that we can live. No complaining, no freeloading, no laziness. Just born from hustlers to hustle. The dream is there for dreamers, staying in a nightmare is a choice.

    • @Coko_Ono
      @Coko_Ono 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly 💯😊

    • @qodeshim9058
      @qodeshim9058 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What would u consider the American dream?

    • @lex1eleven
      @lex1eleven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @qodeshim9058 when you get there, you will know.

    • @Jamesbooker1239
      @Jamesbooker1239 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May sure you thank black Americans for making it possible for you to come to this country that we also built.

    • @mark4m557
      @mark4m557 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I’m a descendant of a southern slave owner. My ancestors on my mother’s side were very wealthy people back in the early to mid 19th century. Probably some of the wealthiest people in the state at the time. My great grandfather owned 5 plantations, and some of those plantations were used in the film Django. I don’t know what happened to all of that money because I grew up poor AF. On my father’s side, I have Native American ancestors who had their land taken from them, and come to find out there was oil on that land. Even if things played out differently, someone would have spent that money way before it trickled down to me. Ain’t no sense of complaining about something that happened almost 200 years ago.

  • @justinvoelkel8650
    @justinvoelkel8650 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1144

    Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, but those who live in the past can never move forward.

    • @ErinDaniel-bb4tb
      @ErinDaniel-bb4tb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's just life, we all just have to move on but disregard where we started from.

    • @collinhenderson871
      @collinhenderson871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Preach brother

    • @methheadmayhemmiller8747
      @methheadmayhemmiller8747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly repeating it might be the way. Humble some niggas

    • @Aluttuh
      @Aluttuh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah and sadly nepotism is a fundamental human behavior, multiculturalism doesn't work, ever.

    • @jesseonyenka
      @jesseonyenka 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Nobody lives in the past if the problems still exist today

  • @dikhathatochimbwete2327
    @dikhathatochimbwete2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8105

    A conversation all black people will appreciate and have waited for

    • @ishy6875
      @ishy6875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      If you're African or African American.

    • @johnconnor4749
      @johnconnor4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Not at all.

    • @MrsLizziee
      @MrsLizziee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

      @@ishy6875 Well... not all africans are black.

    • @nicotinedietcoke
      @nicotinedietcoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      I’m not black but I appreciate and have learned a lot from this video

    • @blue-yc6iu
      @blue-yc6iu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No I can give af what a African says

  • @jackieferrarimusic
    @jackieferrarimusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4732

    Freedom isn't just physical. It's also mental. You can be physically free and mentally enslaved to an ideology or something you have been through

    • @racheljohnson7177
      @racheljohnson7177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Very true

    • @animejesus8940
      @animejesus8940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      preach

    • @omnium_gatherum
      @omnium_gatherum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or even mentally enslaved to something someone else has been through

    • @bibaolaitan5189
      @bibaolaitan5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      So how do you get out of it..... is it not by just being honest with yourself, instead of just blaming people.

    • @dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon
      @dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That is totally true.

  • @TheAngelChristine
    @TheAngelChristine หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This whole video was so well spoken. Some of the things said about how we are just reacting and living in the ripples of the stone that was thrown in the pond of history was so well spoken. Lots of these things were spoken and it was things that I also agree with a lot of the points. This video was also one with no fights and yes, I also expected “ guns blazing” like the guy said, but everyone was very calm and collected, and on relatively the same page. No one fought their point and shove it down anyone’s throat, and I agreed with virtually everything in this video for once.

  • @Jemimahcheesburger
    @Jemimahcheesburger ปีที่แล้ว +2564

    As Africans, we experience a very deep level of discrimination where there are divides amongst the people. There's a quote that says, "When brothers fight each other, outsiders inherit their property." And that is exactly what happens.

    • @snowfall2507
      @snowfall2507 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yessssss!!!! I agree with this 100%

    • @nwalden5744
      @nwalden5744 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Y’all created it tho

    • @NegativeAccelerate
      @NegativeAccelerate ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Love that quote. I feel like it's applicable in every culture

    • @looper964
      @looper964 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      When brothers sell their brothers
      Fixed it for you

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Despots divide to conquer. Always have

  • @ceeshaki7305
    @ceeshaki7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1772

    as an nigerian american, i appreciate this conversation it’s something we need to continue.

    • @itsprincipe
      @itsprincipe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      nigérian american how does that make sense

    • @religiohominilupus5259
      @religiohominilupus5259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      @@itsprincipe Actually makes a lot more sense than saying "African American," "American," or even ""European." Neither of those are countries, they're continents. Nigeria's a country, so is the US, and so is Spain, just to name three. So yeah, OP specifying they're Nigerian American makes perfect sense. At least to me.

    • @umiprincesscosplay
      @umiprincesscosplay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@itsprincipe it’s like Italian American, it’s a country within a continent. Like Nigeria is a country within the continent of Africa.

    • @petergeramin7195
      @petergeramin7195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@umiprincesscosplay What are you talking about?

    • @itsprincipe
      @itsprincipe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@religiohominilupus5259 ok so would they be from america but their half nigerian or what

  • @peachica
    @peachica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2122

    goodness. everyone here is very insightful, intelligent, and they know how to have a proper discussion without being rude, interrupting, or disrespecting others. the best middle ground group hands down.

    • @triple_gem_shining
      @triple_gem_shining 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      🤡

    • @career5690
      @career5690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@triple_gem_shining ?

    • @career5690
      @career5690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @Mike Tython 🛑 that

    • @milk6-
      @milk6- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe they meant her pfp

    • @peachica
      @peachica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@milk6- my FKA twigs pfp?

  • @Ww-nh9pl
    @Ww-nh9pl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This conversation was so touching and informative! I’m Brazilian and often feel guilt for the enormous harm my people have caused. My home country had the largest number of slaves and we were sadly the very last country to abolish slavery in 1888. Although I personally did not participate of course I still feel a connection to the guilt 💔 an apology from my ancestors to yours❤

  • @maggiemuriithi9648
    @maggiemuriithi9648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Elizabeth is just amazing
    How she puts her African perspective to her American life is beautiful
    Kudos from 🇰🇪🇰🇪

  • @vic902
    @vic902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1067

    As an African, I also think that because we are immigrants and had the choice of coming to America, that experience in itself will be quite different from African Americans who were initially forced to come over and went through generations of being in a system that didn’t allow them to have opportunities for career growth . Most African immigrants WHO do come over, have at some capacity exposure to education, work experience or connections. Not saying there are Africans who don’t come to America struggling but coming over to America requires most immigrants (especially African immigrants)to have some sort of aspect that makes them “valuable” for them to even attain a visa. I really don’t like when people try to say that Africans are more “successful” than AA cause we work harder and are not lazy. AA are just as successful but there are still families that are still going through that cycle of poverty and trauma due to slavery. While most Africans who happen to migrate to America with a set plan with high exposure are probably going to be successful anyways and instill that in their children. Comparing both groups in numbers regarding success misrepresents it cause keep in mind there are Africans back home who are also still trying to break cycles of poverty. So I’m just saying that immigrant experience is very much distinct than that of AA experience.

    • @Queenc782
      @Queenc782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Very well said 👏🏽

    • @dansmodacct
      @dansmodacct 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      So well said!

    • @anyaw340
      @anyaw340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      Completely agree. The US government does not select just anyone to come to the US, since many people would come here and be burdens on US society. They select people who have already demonstrated that they can persevere and achieve some level of success in their own countries. These are people who have already *proven* to be ambitious and talented in their own countries, but just need the tools of a first world country to really reach their potential. These are the kinds of people the US selects. Thus, immigrants in general (not just Africans) are more successful than *all* native-born Americans (not just African Americans) because they were selected specifically for accomplishments they've already made before they even got here. That's certainly a compliment to immigrant populations, but it's not reflective of their cultures in general.

    • @vic902
      @vic902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@anyaw340 Exactly💯👏🏽👏🏽

    • @mazvitaaa
      @mazvitaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You definitely hit the nail on the head.

  • @mayap3738
    @mayap3738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    I appreciated Elizabeth (Nigerian sista) because she acknowledged the negative way that many Africans feel about black/African-Americans but also confessed that through experience and research she was able to develop a more well rounded understanding. Hearing Africans say that their families are back home dying to come to America really makes me sad whenever I hear it cuz it should really be the other way around. We should be dying to come there.

    • @isaiahprater8325
      @isaiahprater8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do they not teach this at school?

    • @isaiahprater8325
      @isaiahprater8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Gleeful Glock bro who are you to say what I can and can not survive!? Once again, you fools continue to act like yall are better just because you don't use deodorant.

    • @gleefulglock9461
      @gleefulglock9461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Derrick Bol Yakwa 6’3 Most 😉

    • @Bv3276
      @Bv3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @derrickbolyakwa6395I’m an African American that just found her roots(Tikar of Cameroon) via AfricanAncestry test and I appreciate that. I love y’all fr! 🫶🏽

    • @BB-ji3bb
      @BB-ji3bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaiahprater8325 😂😂😂 "Because you don't use deodorant" you're shameless, read a book abeg. You're uninformed

  • @Muziqizlyf
    @Muziqizlyf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I think the biggest difference is the people from Africa have had these things happen to them in their lifetimes. And I think that's what the biggest problem people have. It's the self-victimization about things that didn't happen to them and the anger towards people who didn't do it to them. And the fact that nobody would admit that things have gotten better. We are so much further then we were in the '60s.

  • @inlivingcolor...abroad6099
    @inlivingcolor...abroad6099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2357

    I love how Kai turned that statement about race obsession around.
    The reason why race is such a prominent conversation in America is in fact b/c laws were based on race and oppressing others for hundreds of years.
    You can’t hit someone repeatedly in the face and then say “let’s just move on”

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Wakanda Forever movie definitely had a hand in this happening because Africans and black Americans need to come together

    • @_callmetre_2369
      @_callmetre_2369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      @@suzygirl1843 I also think people completely missed the fact that Wakanda itself is supposed to be before Africa was colonized. So that’s why it’s an array of Black African folks in the movie. Like Winston Duke is from Trinidad. Letitia is Guyanese-British & the list just goes on & on. I think Ryan Coogler tried to included every ethnicity from the African Diaspora in the movie.

    • @StarMercurian
      @StarMercurian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      THIS

    • @yungmetr0135
      @yungmetr0135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      the black people alive now did not get to experience laws that were based on race so what are u saying

    • @devronl08
      @devronl08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

      @@yungmetr0135You’re acting as if the 60’s was over hundreds of years ago. Both of my parents were born BEFORE the civil rights movement. Not to mention my grandparents. MANY black people alive today have experienced laws based on slavery. And they still trickle into our laws today. Also my generation( in my family) is the first since the civil rights movement, so we aren’t far removed at all.

  • @Olivia-mj4vv
    @Olivia-mj4vv ปีที่แล้ว +801

    One of the most chill Middle Ground episodes. There's no major arguing and fighting, just some understanding and calm talking and laughing. It's refreshing.

    • @idku6554
      @idku6554 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honestly they should add in the casting the requirement of letting others talk and not interrupt. It gets so annoying I’ve stopped watching videos that was interested in because the people arguing would just shout at each other

  • @anodaone6525
    @anodaone6525 ปีที่แล้ว +1749

    I think as black people, we need more of these conversations with each other. Black people all over need this. It helps us understand each other more.

    • @fahimkar3361
      @fahimkar3361 ปีที่แล้ว

      Africans are Africans. Afro Americans are black people. Just Afro Americans.

    • @Northseattle-
      @Northseattle- ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ya ✊🏾✊🏿

    • @someanimefan5990
      @someanimefan5990 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      " Black people all over need this"
      Nope, not the privileged blacks in countries where they're the dominant majority; the privileged dominant majority should not play identity politics.

    • @krash2430
      @krash2430 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh so now they are the privileged ones? not the americans that have acess to everything they need and yet still cry ? @@someanimefan5990ps: i'm not talking about the video

    • @shawny5338
      @shawny5338 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@someanimefan5990 Those and Conservative blacks are exactly who need to be a part of these conversations. Otherwise, you will only be in your own bubble and will never find alternatives or different points of view that could help Africans grow as a community.

  • @TheLocus-l4h
    @TheLocus-l4h 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I think slavery really messed up (mentally & psychologically) African Americans, the impact is generational and I think the reason it has been difficult to forget and just move on, is because of the systemic injustices that continue to this day. Most Africans on the other hand grow up poor, but are nurtured by families and extended families with strong communal and social connections. Despite economic challenges, corruptions and tribalism, Africans have not been made to feel less of human beings. Africans grow up respected and valued in their communities and when they immigrate to the US, their focus is solely on the "American Dream" and may not fully understand the complexities within the US system especially the African American communities. Racism has a much greater and long lasting impact than e.g. tribalism etc.

    • @Adam-uz9sc
      @Adam-uz9sc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Human slavery is no different to using animals to work we are all animals its how they are treated that matters

    • @user-qt4ct5os3p
      @user-qt4ct5os3p 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Couldn't have said that any better? You must be a native black American .

    • @patmoore7959
      @patmoore7959 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Slavery is not just a black thing all races have been slaves at one point in time and slavery exists to this day but we don't want to talk about that

    • @TheLocus-l4h
      @TheLocus-l4h 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@patmoore7959 We are only referring to African American slavery on this very video and anyone who feels like talking about it should be free to do so.

    • @therealmulatto
      @therealmulatto 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Adam-uz9scyes exactly

  • @magdalinenjeri5262
    @magdalinenjeri5262 ปีที่แล้ว +1271

    Very informative conversation. I am African and what prosper said about Tribalism is very accurate. The 'racism' we face here in Africa is in the form of 'Tribalism'. I am glad both sides acknowledge each others pain and points of view.

    • @Sirie7206
      @Sirie7206 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      I had an Ethiopian friend. Beautiful girl. The Caribbean black girls hated her for being so beautiful. One time they tried fighting her at a club, they threw drinks at her. She would get the same hate from non African black girls. May she R.I.P.

    • @Touchedbygod122
      @Touchedbygod122 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      So it’s not racism it’s self hate and the lack of a common identity and ideology with you guys !
      Similar but tribalism is not the same thing as racism

    • @magdalinenjeri5262
      @magdalinenjeri5262 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@Touchedbygod122 Quick question, where are you from?
      I ask this because just like we Africans cannot speak on racism(because we rarely rarely experience is first hand) if you haven't experienced tribalism first hand (like most Africans have,especially in my country) you shouldn't have such a "bold" opinion on it. While they are not exactly the same thing,they have similar effects on communities/people.

    • @Touchedbygod122
      @Touchedbygod122 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@magdalinenjeri5262
      Colorism is a form of tribalism
      We also have different demographics within the black community
      Afro Latin
      Creole
      And all other kind of mixture bi-racial
      That don’t classify themselves as solely black! Because of the exotic fetishized culture in the community from slavery la casta , platoons and quadroons . Just like the Indian caste system !!
      You should study more history!!
      We also were apart of an African tribe before slavery!!!
      So we can speak to the experience of tribalism!! Try again!

    • @bgsonsthriving.
      @bgsonsthriving. ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes Tribalism is Africa’s biggest threat of racism is sad

  • @yankytank09
    @yankytank09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +594

    I'm glad they had an older person's perspective. I wish there were an older perspective on the African side. All in all, this conversation was so healthy and insightful! 🙏🏾

    • @liberatambua7271
      @liberatambua7271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      That would have been amazing. Our African grandparents have stories to tell, stories of the excruciating pain they went through under the colonial rule. There are some freedom fighters still alive in Kenya, and I doubt any of them wants to hear the name of the late queen, sorry to say

    • @angelazsz
      @angelazsz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i absolutely agree. an episode with elders of different cultures on the question of “how is life better/worse now than before” would be extremely insightful and educational

    • @mmm.tortillas
      @mmm.tortillas ปีที่แล้ว

      Yupp

    • @Q.T-T
      @Q.T-T 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They also need a woman on the AA side..

    • @justimani4
      @justimani4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes especially those who grew up during white rule and oppression!!!

  • @panlis6243
    @panlis6243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2518

    As a polish person, I would love to see more episodes with people outside of USA

    • @sleepyboi1964
      @sleepyboi1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      this ^

    • @BitchChill
      @BitchChill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      This is a US channel

    • @piececake5820
      @piececake5820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +310

      @@BitchChill yeah, but an european episode would be so nice. Like to have people from different countries there to talk.

    • @necrom4454
      @necrom4454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      @@BitchChill Yet they got African people for this episode

    • @juanitacolette5766
      @juanitacolette5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@necrom4454what?

  • @codyburgess7034
    @codyburgess7034 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    1:52 the Chinese were brutally used for railroads lol

    • @mostlyshorts7462
      @mostlyshorts7462 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Irish was removed from their home land , forced across the ocean to places such as Australia and U.S to work for free in "prison colonies "

  • @debzlovelyn
    @debzlovelyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    Guys to be honest I am so glad . I have been wanting an African and African American middle ground vid to come out and finally it has happened . Sending love from 🇺🇬 Uganda .

    • @Jay-Kay-Buwembo
      @Jay-Kay-Buwembo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hello Sis, another Ugandan 🇺🇬 here!

    • @mulungiesther4462
      @mulungiesther4462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤🇺🇬

    • @deedee9835
      @deedee9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kataala and Nakataala😂

    • @cuupocabra1880
      @cuupocabra1880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m happy They been reading the comments because we all been asking!!!! :-)

  • @DJreeik
    @DJreeik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1039

    Best video they have posted. The Africans & African Americans really needed this conversation.

  • @NonStopParis
    @NonStopParis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4090

    I can’t help but feel there was a lost opportunity to include a black American woman. Other than that, very insightful and fascinating conversation.

    • @jordanleighwheatley
      @jordanleighwheatley ปีที่แล้ว +298

      I agree and would've loved for a conversation between the women about racism in healthcare with those perspectives

    • @ZzZen_arts
      @ZzZen_arts ปีที่แล้ว +157

      Yes, I thought about that too. When they were talking about a divide in African American communities, I wish there was a black woman, who experience/seen colorism to speak about it.

    • @jordanleighwheatley
      @jordanleighwheatley ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@ZzZen_arts maybe they will repeat this episode and talk more about specific industries and racism. Retail, hospitality, healthcare, etc.

    • @Prodbytocile
      @Prodbytocile ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZzZen_arts the American African American would've fucked that up

    • @ZzZen_arts
      @ZzZen_arts ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Prodbytocile I am not sure why you would think that... strange...

  • @nikinonscott9766
    @nikinonscott9766 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    5:12 is Golden. Thank you Kai, great articulation of the situation!💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💯

  • @Blakkbarbii101
    @Blakkbarbii101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    I’m from Senegal and I applied to be on this episode because these topics are so interesting. The people chosen were great. In high school I wanted nothing more than to share Africa with African Americans. Although many rejected me and mocked me for my background, some accepted me and l cherish those relationships greatly. I wish for African Americans to understand that we are truly not that different from each other. Hating each other fuels the fire of hatred that slavery and colonization created which means we lose in the end while they laugh at our demise. I wouldn’t be here freely as an African if it weren’t for your struggles. Let’s work as a team and make our ancestors proud. It’s a family reunion ❤

    • @blomobloom9639
      @blomobloom9639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do you apply

    • @sparklesp9304
      @sparklesp9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah, some of our ancestors came from Senegal as well actually looking at DNA tests. I'd love to learn more. Im glad the Camaroonian gentlemen was there.

    • @vilheard3030
      @vilheard3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      One of my best friends is from Senegal.

    • @Blakkbarbii101
      @Blakkbarbii101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vilheard3030 oh wow! It’s nice having friends from all walks of life.

    • @Blakkbarbii101
      @Blakkbarbii101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sparklesp9304 yeah the door of no return is in Senegal and so many slaves were taken from there as well 😢. I’m glad he was there also he had some great points.

  • @inesr.mcgrath8010
    @inesr.mcgrath8010 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    Coming from Cameroon, new in the us, facing tribalism, racism, and so much question that have been opened here... I thank you guys for this conversation. I actually needed it

    • @ib6019
      @ib6019 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hi namesake, lol. My name is Inès too.

    • @yasim
      @yasim ปีที่แล้ว

      It's sad to see black Americans hating Africans, while we welcome them to Africa 😢

    • @nwalden5744
      @nwalden5744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Africa has racism too

    • @himynameissea
      @himynameissea ปีที่แล้ว +7

      me too 🇨🇲 🇨🇲!!

    • @gloriaa.2442
      @gloriaa.2442 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeremiah 29:11 !

  • @Harzeezreport
    @Harzeezreport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +981

    As an African-American in Atlanta, I have these conversations all of the time with African friends and their friend groups. I feel fortunate to have the upbringing and point of view that I do. It really helps in these conversations.

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The word slave comes from the word slav. The fa t is there were more white slaves in africa than black slaves in america...

    • @dondrickdem
      @dondrickdem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@nova77791 where's the proof

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dondrickdem just wiki it. Fairly easy if u really want to know

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dondrickdem u cant copy links to utube. But u can also look up the term in the dictionary.. if u dont even bother to look it means ud just prefer to stay in ignorance as it fulfillls a belief

    • @Harzeezreport
      @Harzeezreport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@nova77791 wiki is not a reliable source, speaking from research experience and working at libraries

  • @leibrasun
    @leibrasun หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Mr Skipp! You said some things I've never heard before and I appreciate it!🙏🏾

  • @jessicakarenmartin
    @jessicakarenmartin ปีที่แล้ว +2435

    "Race isn't an obsession, it's a distraction..." - Very true!!

    • @TychoKingdom
      @TychoKingdom ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Race is the law of the land.

    • @ALemonAteHer
      @ALemonAteHer ปีที่แล้ว +105

      It's a distraction when your obsessed with it

    • @god563616
      @god563616 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes

    • @Moepowerplant
      @Moepowerplant ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a suspicion that differences in skin color, etc. are simply excuses to rally the masses (perhaps the only people who actually care about those things) of their respective nations behind them, but the elite know the real division in society: haves and have-nots.

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TychoKingdom where?

  • @shuffler111100
    @shuffler111100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +880

    I really wish there was someone from the Caribbean in this conversation. I feel we have a unique perspective as African descendants. Hopefully there's an opportunity for that to him in the future.

    • @youtubesucks1821
      @youtubesucks1821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Big up to yout dem!

    • @Aniwazoa
      @Aniwazoa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was thinking that as well!

    • @anne-juliest-leger948
      @anne-juliest-leger948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Even Afro Canadian

    • @youtubesucks1821
      @youtubesucks1821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@anne-juliest-leger948 Who? Nobody cares about Canada.

    • @YPM498
      @YPM498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@youtubesucks1821 😂

  • @onye9618
    @onye9618 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    I rarely comment on TH-cam videos but I’m Nigerian and I want to commend Elizabeth because I feel like she explained how I feel perfectly. Especially when she said it’s easier for Africans to downplay racism because we don’t understand it. I mean we may understand it but you don’t fully understand something unless you have been through it. It’s easy to think “why’re you complaining when you literally have water?!” And not think about how everyone has struggles and Racism is a struggle black Africans have gone through. We have all suffered, no one’s suffering is less. It is all painful at the end of the day.
    I wouldn’t say I completely understand racism now but I am grateful for every black American who fought through resilience and effort to open doors for all black/African people because without them we would not have Africans in America at this point seeking opportunities.

    • @tylergriffin2499
      @tylergriffin2499 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn’t fight for anything without them Africans would still come with America stop acting weak

    • @onye9618
      @onye9618 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tylergriffin2499 I just stated my thoughts on it lmao. Don’t be so pained

    • @tylergriffin2499
      @tylergriffin2499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@onye9618 why would I be pained ? And lord knows you no African stop the cap

    • @onye9618
      @onye9618 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylergriffin2499 you’re obviously pained because you’re here this early in the morning trying to invalidate my opinions. Why you think I’m not African is beyond me. I clearly stated that I am a Nigerian in the comment and I also just moved. Not you coming for me when you literally have the most English name ever. Tyler, abeg find peace with yourself and stop replying strangers comment. I wish you well

    • @TychoKingdom
      @TychoKingdom ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That idea is so small minded also some people in America do not have access to clean water.
      But going back to the first idea. We do not stop fighting for better just because others have it worse. That's makes absolutely no sense to say oh people have it worse than me so I'm not gonna fight to make life better for me and my children. Why settle for less than you deserve.
      I think you don't get it because Black Americans are Americans we have the American spirit the American culture. We want the American dream we want luxury we want excess we are willing to work hard so we can play hard and we don't settle. Being idealistic is very American.

  • @shamekaloney6370
    @shamekaloney6370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've recently started watching these debates.... and appreciate how this discussion was had and the fact that a moderator wasn't needed. Yes, someone voiced the prompts, however it was just a conversation amongst beautiful individuals comparing and contrasting their cultures. Nice to see I wish it was longer with more people.

  • @yvonnekagondu7030
    @yvonnekagondu7030 ปีที่แล้ว +1842

    The energy in the video feels calm, it's like the two groups of people feel safe around each other

    • @shoshonnie7796
      @shoshonnie7796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Safe? Why because they’re all black? Nonsense, you’re statistically more likely to be attacked by someone who looks like you. I’m black and i don’t see this imaginary racism these people are talking about, I’m more afraid of someone that looks like me VS somebody who doesn’t.

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      No yt that's why. Perfect.

    • @imanahmed9754
      @imanahmed9754 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      🧬

    • @ItsMissChas5
      @ItsMissChas5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can appreciate that.

    • @prince777-l8c
      @prince777-l8c ปีที่แล้ว +10

      family moment

  • @TopS7
    @TopS7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +913

    As African it always irritates me when other Africans say AA's complain too much about racism in America not understanding the history of AA's and how it's still connected systemically to what's happening today when it cames to how they're unfairly treated disproportionately in incarceration, housing, poverty or even getting a loan from the bank. As a Somali I'm very thankful for AA's their voices matter. The sacrifices they made directly benefits us. What some don't understand is what happens in America directly affects the rest of us. The U.S government has huge amount of controll and leverage over the continent of Africa. Only the politician's and the leaders they choose will stay in power as they will use their unlimited resources to manipulate and instigate till they get the outcome they desire in Which is based solely on exploitation.

    • @TopS7
      @TopS7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      @Blessing You're not seeing this thru clear eyes the wide spread inequality practices that was implemented against their ancestors for generations is the root cause and there is a direct link between poverty and crime.

    • @Jeff-xv6gk
      @Jeff-xv6gk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      @Blessing it’s part of the problem the reason why crime rates are high in black communities is the lack of resources they just did a study saying if black Americans receive reparations the crime rate will go down drastically!

    • @TopS7
      @TopS7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@Jeff-xv6gk She is only seeing the smaller picture. There list of issue why things are way they are. There was governmental policy to undermine black people in American for a long time and when it comes to crime rates AA's are always under the scope black neighborhoods are Patrolled more racist judge's, profiling, stop and frisk etc ...

    • @ivyrainbitch
      @ivyrainbitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Blessing build upbyour home countries African booty scratcher

    • @anonymousbo0318
      @anonymousbo0318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopS7You people never take accountability, you're clowns

  • @majidMouzin
    @majidMouzin ปีที่แล้ว +888

    I'm not black, not African, not American and not white. So as a total outsider to this conversation, i really appreciate how everyone was so understanding of each other's points and there was no angry dismissiveness. Gained a lot of perspective.

    • @corythegoat2745
      @corythegoat2745 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      And black Americans ain't African! But some Africans ancestry is from America!

    • @frenchkisse.
      @frenchkisse. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corythegoat2745 literally all black people are originally from Africa, what are u on abt

    • @xiao-sn1lq
      @xiao-sn1lq ปีที่แล้ว +84

      ⁠@@corythegoat2745black americans have african ancestry and how would african people have ancestry from america

    • @xiao-sn1lq
      @xiao-sn1lq ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they’d be mixed

    • @tylerrenz2505
      @tylerrenz2505 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks for taking the time to watch. Means a lot that you seek understanding and not judgement. Cool human 😊

  • @garycapone8058
    @garycapone8058 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Amazing to see this conversation in balance 👍🏽 , great episode!

  • @sunflowerangelnctzen
    @sunflowerangelnctzen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    it would be really interesting if you could do a “North Africans vs Middle Easterns”. especially after all the heated conversations that surfaced during this Qatar world cup

    • @HB-ey2dk
      @HB-ey2dk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      That sounds like it could be very dangerous lol

    • @memeaw2537
      @memeaw2537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That sounds like it could be very interesting

    • @WbbBasketballfan222
      @WbbBasketballfan222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah ok like the Arabs are going to take any accountability.

    • @notlu_
      @notlu_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this would be very interesting

    • @Mr_jnk
      @Mr_jnk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hadnt thought about this... and yes that would be very very interesting ..

  • @charliesimmons9392
    @charliesimmons9392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Skipp’s point about supporting community vs supporting the system was something that I never had really thought of, very accurate point

    • @adorablebelle
      @adorablebelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same! I never saw it this way before.

    • @DeplorablesGarbage
      @DeplorablesGarbage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would explain why BLM vandalized black owned homes and torched black owned businesses.

    • @Yukyuk96
      @Yukyuk96 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read more Malcom x, that was like his whole thing

  • @kassdremusic
    @kassdremusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1697

    I’m Nigerian and what Black Americans have done. Should be applauded more. They are great, talented people.

    • @fruitsarelife7073
      @fruitsarelife7073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      I agree 100% . They deserve more credit and understanding. They are amazing and strong.❤️Im Eritrean.

    • @DefSquadFan
      @DefSquadFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The impact of slavery on law, generational wealth, self-esteem, culture, and relationships with whites today all come from slavery.

    • @travelpro23
      @travelpro23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      And Africans would NOT be able to come to America and thrive without the sacrifices of American black people (civil rights movement, etc.). Do Africans really know and understand what people went through during the time of Jim Crowe and the horrific things people had to go through for basic rights, and African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work??? Yes, it definitely needs to be applauded much more!

    • @queenbbeaute2654
      @queenbbeaute2654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thank u We really appreciate it seems its easier for ppl to just hate first vs educate themselves and understand

    • @natriac.6092
      @natriac.6092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      @@travelpro23 Why do you feel so attacked.
      Like you are being so passive-aggressive.
      "African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work"
      Both sides suffered, for your information.

  • @moyoda2517
    @moyoda2517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This felt like a family reunion amongst Distant relatives. Great Convo. The police don’t care where u from, your skin is your sin

  • @KAIXOmusic
    @KAIXOmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1359

    So proud to represent my community in this episode and those among us who may not be the first ones invited to the conversation. So much love for all the people involved in this and love my African fam

    • @chiblesstheraindowninafric9932
      @chiblesstheraindowninafric9932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Love you too Kai. I wish we would all come back together and be brothers and sisters like we used to be. 🖤🖤

    • @CeeJai_K
      @CeeJai_K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Really, really enjoyed you Kai. Blessings to you.

    • @lungamadoda6992
      @lungamadoda6992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      When you said your last name is king that brought tears in my eyes , I remember visiting the UK and there’s a large number of Caribbean people there and me coming from South Africa it was a shock to see how they all had slaves names and last names at that point I knew slavery was real😢

    • @Specialeena
      @Specialeena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Your contributions were brilliant, and this cohort gives one hope for Black unity! Peace and blessings!

    • @SuperAH1985
      @SuperAH1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      👏👏 It was such a great episode and very interesting. Thank you for your insights! Great point about how race obsession is a white supremacy issue.

  • @brawstarfamily
    @brawstarfamily ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    As a black brazilian, I thank you guys for this open conversation, very clarifying

    • @sandman62100
      @sandman62100 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Are you single?

    • @HundredManSlayer-
      @HundredManSlayer- ปีที่แล้ว +147

      ​@@sandman62100nah bro ur down terrible

    • @BoysKasa
      @BoysKasa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nunca, nunca

    • @MikeyLikesIt89
      @MikeyLikesIt89 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Just saying hello to my sister from Brazil. I really think it’s long past time for a stronger connection between African Brazilians (I don’t know how you all refer to yourselves) and African American because I truly believe in we are the only two groups of African people who can understand each other’s struggles.

    • @NathaliLima1
      @NathaliLima1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MikeyLikesIt89 and afro-colombian too

  • @jesseross2641
    @jesseross2641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    As a native from Aotearoa , I’d love to see “progressive Native Americans vs traditional Native American”

    • @MB-mg6ky
      @MB-mg6ky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      😂😭😭

    • @indiald3373
      @indiald3373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      interesante @Jesse Ross

    • @Zeyede_Seyum
      @Zeyede_Seyum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where?

    • @1ZzSuenoszZ1
      @1ZzSuenoszZ1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MB-mg6ky I'm confused what's so funny?

    • @SunnyandNova
      @SunnyandNova 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You mean $5 Indians vs Traditional Mongoloid Native Americans? 😂😂 that would be so awesome

  • @FaidedBTB
    @FaidedBTB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Bigg Homie Skipp doing Bigg Thangz Much Respect

  • @ahmypeace
    @ahmypeace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    This is soo golden. As a Nigerian in the US, I have experienced different layers of biases and prejudices back home( cultural, social, economic and institutional biases etc). We were raised in struggles- to strive to get the bare minimum, that when we come here in the US and see AA complain, we feel that they are being ungrateful to the system that provided everything we struggled to get even in a place we call HOME. ‘I mean, how can I as an immigrant have access to scholarships, housing, quality food, security etc’. However, after a class in digital cultures with many people narrating their biases, I realized that even we who want our marginalized voices to be heard (regardless of place) have in fact become passive oppressors to other groups who we gaslight because we don’t relate to their struggles. And by doing so, we become the very oppressor we sought to repress. Therefore, by acknowledging each other’s pain like Skipp did in the beginning of the video where he acknowledged the struggles in Cameroon while also acknowledging generational and modern slavery of AA in America, we can all build a healthy community.
    Biases and struggles exist even in the tiniest unit of human existence, until we acknowledge ALL, we will keep fighting for equality and equity.

    • @optiontopviewclub5366
      @optiontopviewclub5366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As a african Americans I think this was beautifully said. Thank you

    • @PrinceZakariyya
      @PrinceZakariyya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great comment

    • @gvilleboy352
      @gvilleboy352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thought-provoking comment. Well done.

    • @Reasonablewater27
      @Reasonablewater27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t Africans get money from the government in the us

    • @Reasonablewater27
      @Reasonablewater27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to check if it was true

  • @lajoieurmom6011
    @lajoieurmom6011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    As an African person I really appreciate that they made this video. Bc I've always felt like Africans and African-Americans are really different in a lot of ways.
    Edit: I didn't mean to start a whole fight in the comment section, I just wanted to highlight my experience of living in the USA and seeing how different Africans and African-Americans are. Like their behavior and how they talk primarily 😭

    • @Thatmane55
      @Thatmane55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      We are

    • @reggiemiller6274
      @reggiemiller6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      We had to fight for our rights and while we were doing that the Africans waited until the smoke clear to come over and reap the benefits off the slave ancestors.

    • @Peach-hl3hz
      @Peach-hl3hz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@reggiemiller6274 ohh this 🙌🏽 they really would never understand our struggles!

    • @danifranc7011
      @danifranc7011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We are n that's ok

    • @isaiahprater8325
      @isaiahprater8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your comment is kinda cringe and why it's hard to truly come to a middle ground.

  • @Moochy010
    @Moochy010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +495

    Finally! I'm glad they've had this discussion. However, I wish they would've included questions that pertain to the divide or tension between African American and Africans?

    • @TheNinjapancake14
      @TheNinjapancake14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      I think that’s a big reason why this topic was requested so much (and Jubilee knows it)

    • @itumo2645
      @itumo2645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What questions?

    • @emilevanrensburg8094
      @emilevanrensburg8094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@itumo2645 like I would've liked to hear whether Africans feel that its cultural appropriation when black people in America (or anywhere else) wear traditional African clothing. With this group, I don't think they would've, but I still would've like to hear it.

    • @PeterGriffin11
      @PeterGriffin11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@emilevanrensburg8094 In my opinion it’s really weird how people get offended when someone wears clothing from a different culture. Usually no one gets offended when it comes to people from different cultures enjoying food, television, books, movies, videos or video games from other cultures or living in other parts of the world and being friends with or even marrying someone of a different culture but the moment you wear clothing from a different culture it’s going too far and it’s offensive.

    • @ivyrainbitch
      @ivyrainbitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Africans selling other Africans into slavery

  • @Driii777
    @Driii777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:32 I loved Elizabeth’s take. I have come to understand that from an outside perspective how easy it is to look at us as complaining even though we have privilege in comparison to other countries but I like that she sat down and tried to understand it’s not about that. It’s about how we are treated compared to our peers. AND how far we have come and paved the way for black immigrants to have the privileges that’s they have today when they come here

  • @LexV423
    @LexV423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    Finally! I've been waiting forever for this. I wish they included a question like "I feel misjudged by the other side." And more questions that are related to diaspora wars. That's where most of the discourse occurs.

    • @mamus.
      @mamus. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I agree. I was expecting that too but this was great conversation

    • @ChisomAdaora
      @ChisomAdaora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I think most of the diaspora wars comes from not understanding the topics that were discussed in the video. Each side thinks the other has it better when in reality both groups have been oppressed. The Nigerian and Cameroonian rep kind of touched on it when they were talking about the resources that African Americans have such as running water etc. 8:40

    • @LexV423
      @LexV423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @fatimayusuf4296 I'm African-American and my boyfriend is from Nigeria. So I don't want to see African-Americans and Africans fight. However my boyfriend and I have thoroughly talked about discourse throughout Africa and the African diaspora and have both gotten a better understanding of the other side. I wished the things that cause more discourse would have been discussed because I think we all need to have better understanding of each other.

    • @amberawchild
      @amberawchild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We don’t interact with each other enough for there to be mistreatment. We tend to stay separate and judge each other based on here-say.

    • @LexV423
      @LexV423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @amberawchild I see what you're saying. Maybe I should've said misjudged instead of mistreated.

  • @adriennem1003
    @adriennem1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    The gentleman in the blue expressed beautifully the opportunities we have here..even if it seems small. Coming from where he's from, he's very grateful for any opportunity.

    • @silent1267
      @silent1267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      He doesn't have the victim mentality... he's the most logical one

    • @buuurrrrppppp221
      @buuurrrrppppp221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Agreed, really wish the older guy hadn't cut him off around 7:30 would like to have heard his full point

    • @lordquastheonly
      @lordquastheonly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @Tre Tyler you can’t have ptsd for something you’ve never experienced it doesn’t work like that

    • @AfroAsiaticLanguages
      @AfroAsiaticLanguages 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      ​@@lordquastheonly Intergenerational trauma is real and has been proven.

    • @aaliyahhowayd98
      @aaliyahhowayd98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @Lord Quas you absolutely can though. per the dsm-5 (the manual used to diagnose every mental disorder there is) literally the first criteria is either: direct exposure to a traumatic event, witnessing a traumatic event, learning that a relative/close friend was exposed to a traumatic event OR indirect exposure to details of a traumatic event. being directly exposed to something traumatic is only 1 of 4 ways to meet this criteria

  • @antoinettewalley359
    @antoinettewalley359 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    As a women with a Liberian mom and an African American father. This was needed. Growing up the divide between both cultures is so hurtful.

    • @lee2607
      @lee2607 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      as a ghanaian and african american i understand you sm

    • @jessthemessenger8277
      @jessthemessenger8277 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      💯 Deeply painful existing in-between both worlds

    • @TR-zh1ev
      @TR-zh1ev ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sounds like they need to just keep the two cultures separate. AA's can do nothing but negatively impact the beautiful African continents countries. Culture, their respect and dignity.

    • @NB-nh2sf
      @NB-nh2sf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@calebbecker9706 we don't share the same culture as Liberia. At all. We're American ....How?

    • @calebbecker9706
      @calebbecker9706 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@NB-nh2sf Liberia was an American colony at one time where they sent slaves back following the civil war and still holds ties to the United States in many ways. It is easier for Liberians to get visas to the US than many other West African countries because of their relationship with America. If you visit Liberia you will find they listen to American music and adopt other certain aspects of American culture moreso than countries like Ghana and Nigeria that used to be British colonies. This is besides the point but I just want to say the people of Liberia are some of the most welcoming and kind people I've ever met and worked with. I've never been to another country where you can so easily become friends with just about anyone you meet.

  • @ShelleyLevyMusic
    @ShelleyLevyMusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Guy at 1:50 talking about how he was ashamed of his color of skin growing up I wonder how he would feel to hear when I was a kid I grew up in a predominantly black and Hispanic community and I was embarrassed being white I would tell people I was Hispanic just to try and fit in now can I say I have suffered from racism and have post traumatic stress ? I don’t get it we have had similar experiences but since I’m white those experiences have no weight for me

  • @jsb06g
    @jsb06g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    Africans and Black Americans are two different cultures. I wish people would respect the differences and keep it moving.

    • @nadzk2003
      @nadzk2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Exactly

    • @Natureboypkr2
      @Natureboypkr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      Indeed. Black people are not a homogeneous group. An American Black person is different from a Black person from Africa, and both are different from a Black person from Latin America.

    • @theelolicious9302
      @theelolicious9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      African isn't a culture though

    • @zcargill3
      @zcargill3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@theelolicious9302 Are you joking? Each African tribe has a separate culture than African Americans. Like idk if you wanted them to specify a specific country in Africa or what not but they do have culture that is different.

    • @adaezenjoku7527
      @adaezenjoku7527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@theelolicious9302 well yes there are more cultures within African but they mean the cultures of black ppl from africa with their own respective cultures based on their country are different than african americans

  • @CREATURESOCIETY.
    @CREATURESOCIETY. ปีที่แล้ว +563

    We Need More conversations like this. I respect this interview.

  • @rachelsyddney
    @rachelsyddney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +968

    i’m white, and of course i have no clue what it’s like to live as a black person, but i loved watching this. this is the type of video i think EVERYONE needs to watch, no matter what your race or background is. this video was beautiful and educational. i loved this respectful discussion

    • @bradivanson925
      @bradivanson925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question: Do most White Women have jealous tendencies around Black Women?

    • @noneyabusiness3239
      @noneyabusiness3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same here :)

    • @SCrEenNaMe-i9h
      @SCrEenNaMe-i9h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look up white slavery

    • @DirtyEdon
      @DirtyEdon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      What did you learn from this video?

    • @Aurora_Animates
      @Aurora_Animates 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As another white person I agree with this comment fully

  • @mjlove6210
    @mjlove6210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:23 The point is just because you live better here doesn't mean we should settle. "Oh, it's not that bad" it doesn't matter.They need to treat us better. And we should keep rising. Just because it's better than your last situation doesn't mean that it is okay

  • @synesthesia.aesthetic
    @synesthesia.aesthetic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Everyone kept minimizing their own personal painful story in comparison to another. There was so much empathy but also still so much shame. So much healing and reparation(s) needed! Malcolm X said "I cannot heal if there is still a knife in my back"

    • @brightokeke2463
      @brightokeke2463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yh, cause African countries got reparations for colonialism?🤨
      That’s pretty superficial

    • @kee_ho5672
      @kee_ho5672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@brightokeke2463 did you not read the comment it says "needed"

    • @synesthesia.aesthetic
      @synesthesia.aesthetic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brightokeke2463 still needed deeply for all people represented in the video, in all forms and not just financial and infrastructure 🙏

    • @cheyb2257
      @cheyb2257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brightokeke2463 Britain owes Africa, and no one said reparations was received there.

    • @brightokeke2463
      @brightokeke2463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I meant in the statement above is that she didn’t give any substantial reason for there to be a “needed” reparation. Africa didn’t ask for reparations and most other colonized and enslaved area in any point of history, it’s more of bitterness and lack of moving on than wanting to “heal”.
      Africa doesn’t “need” reparations. What we need is making our government and people accountable for their actions.

  • @jhsemoxitha3821
    @jhsemoxitha3821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +628

    Finally. The most requested video on Jubilee. This video was requested multiple times by multiple people for YEARS, and Finally it's here.

    • @daliborandic4046
      @daliborandic4046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True

    • @erilutsubayaki6262
      @erilutsubayaki6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ikr people have been waiting for ages

    • @itsonlytherain736
      @itsonlytherain736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I thought they would never make it

    • @career5690
      @career5690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@itsonlytherain736 I thought that they wasn’t gonna make it too.

    • @sydneyr3460
      @sydneyr3460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Idk about y’all, but I’m disappointed

  • @zaiah9252
    @zaiah9252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +546

    As an African American, this conversation needs to happen

    • @ruthkashika5330
      @ruthkashika5330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      As an African I agree

    • @jasmine-kg7dd
      @jasmine-kg7dd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It already happened.

    • @robbobthebot7359
      @robbobthebot7359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasmine-kg7dd he probably meant needed excuse his grammar

    • @kayaphus4303
      @kayaphus4303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      African Americans have many excuses. Africans dont have the luxury of excuses.

    • @alexisrobinson9180
      @alexisrobinson9180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This conversation has been ongoing and tiresome there are entire chanels dedicated specifically for this

  • @ElimanGibba
    @ElimanGibba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A necessary conversation, that needs to happen constantly or periodically. An African brother once dropped an insight & perspective ( does not capture the entire experience/ destructive & horrendous experience ) gave me a lot to think about : We all felt the pain in extremely difficult/different degrees in many instances , however our enslaved Ancestors,brothers & sisters pain is still ongoing. As Africans our ancestors also lost their children, brothers, sisters & communities. It is a deep ,deep conversation we need to have & peel black on the stories to come together.

  • @Kgang.
    @Kgang. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    "We're just living in the ripple effects of the stones that were cast in the pond of history" Beautifully said!!!

  • @dagurushow3262
    @dagurushow3262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +583

    We need a Haitian and Dominican conversation like this

    • @Shahdae2001
      @Shahdae2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I would pay to see that conversation

    • @fsoto2900
      @fsoto2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No we dont…. Both of those countries are equally corrupt poorly ran by their own country people… enough said… you can say that about each country in the Caribbean… they are poorly ran by Godless children of the Devil.

    • @AmonRa1081
      @AmonRa1081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Now THAT would be a great conversation.

    • @regularpaul8142
      @regularpaul8142 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Wooosh they not ready for that.

    • @franciscoaguzman1730
      @franciscoaguzman1730 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great idea

  • @jack.blaise
    @jack.blaise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Elizabeth was very well spoken and down to earth. She is an amazing person who understands what needs to change and how our mindset should change to help others.

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the dialogue between all of them. It’s therapeutic to share the history and traumas on all sides. It goes to show how there is a common denominator of who is imposing this racism.

  • @blackcoffee9470
    @blackcoffee9470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    As an African, I am so grateful for this conservation.

  • @kimplications
    @kimplications 2 ปีที่แล้ว +932

    "This is their system. Why would we dream of being equal in a system that wasn't designed for us?" that hit me

    • @cavaugnsharkey2699
      @cavaugnsharkey2699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Fr.

    • @MrRono19
      @MrRono19 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      If only there was a whole continent where things are set up in their way.

    • @kimplications
      @kimplications ปีที่แล้ว +125

      @@MrRono19if only that same whole continent wasn’t terrorized by colonialism last centuries

    • @MrRono19
      @MrRono19 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@kimplications If only they would stop terrorizing each other nowadays and just move on.

    • @razatiger22
      @razatiger22 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@MrRono19 The reason African countries terroize each other to this day is because Europeans drew the boarders and decided which tribe was in which country because they wanted our resources. There are more tribes of people in Africa then anywhere in the world and Europeans came in with zero knowledge or regard of any of that and drew up the maps.
      Its like if an African ruler walked into Europe and drew a map of Europe and put Russia, Germany and France as a single country or put Turkey, Greece and Italy all in one country. Those are all countries with different cultures and histories as well as beliefs, ofc there would be civil wars.

  • @jasberryrox
    @jasberryrox ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This was one of the most peaceful Middle Ground episodes I've ever seen. Everyone was so respectful and willing to listen even when they disagreed.

  • @nickpearce1129
    @nickpearce1129 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:01 A point of clarification, a vast majority slave owners didn’t give slaves their last name. A slave owner, wouldn’t want to share their family name with a person they think lesser of.

  • @woobosco9206
    @woobosco9206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    A huge step to healing the black community is having healthy conversations like these and finding common ground. This platform can indeed keep this energy going by adding other types of black people from different backgrounds and culture to push more healthy conversations. Love.

  • @heyimmomo8211
    @heyimmomo8211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +806

    Wonderful conversations. Everyone was so informative in the topics they brought up, everyone is willing to listen, and LEARN. I learn so much from this. Would love to see a middle ground with multi-ethnic people in America discussing possible feelings of alienation to all their backgrounds. ( I'm African, Japanese, and Mexican) I celebrate all my cultures, but sometimes I am not allowed into those communities because I am not "this" or "that" enough.

    • @permata9613
      @permata9613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oh yes great idea! I would love that! I am German Indonesian and Portuguese and I feel the same way

    • @Borednstufff
      @Borednstufff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I feel the same way as Japanese, Filipino, and Guatemalan. Would love a middle ground on this topic.

    • @umad6499
      @umad6499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I absolutely love that idea as someone who is also mixed (white, indian, mexican) and has experienced racism from from all three of my cultures

    • @Unknown-us1fc
      @Unknown-us1fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hispanic, black and Indian here. Would love to see this

    • @rockandspace
      @rockandspace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait Africa is a continent, you got to name the other ethnicities but Africa doesn’t deserve that? You’re Not Asian and North American but Japanese and Mexican but for Africa there’s no need to go further???

  • @thetom5522
    @thetom5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    This was such a wholesome discussion. Loved how everyone listened respectfully. Great job👏

  • @nikibronson133
    @nikibronson133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They’re not disagreeing when they said slavery didn’t impact their family, but I also feel like they don’t realize it did because it destabilized Africa is a continent

  • @lethabomokgatle357
    @lethabomokgatle357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    I’m so happy to have been part of this episode 😊

    • @ashley4764
      @ashley4764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      you were amazing!

    • @bell-heir2934
      @bell-heir2934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Love your take on the American dream

    • @Ummkelechi
      @Ummkelechi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You were amazing!! I actually loved your insight 😊

    • @ivyrainbitch
      @ivyrainbitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you planning on building up your home country?

    • @ivandrago782
      @ivandrago782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ivyrainbitch why you replying to every comment? get a job bro.

  • @Jachimma_me
    @Jachimma_me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +847

    As an African, i didn't think this way before but now, yeah I think it's very important to NEVER forget what they've gone through in that country but at the same time work on themselves especially first from their family structure and also help their community to attain TRUE POWER in that country. That's what i feel, being on twitter, black Americans don't have REAL power in America after all these years. Yes they lead every kind of social discourse,black music is the most consumed music, they have the most social/trendy influence, and sure white people can't say the n-word without dire consequences. I know this sounds strange, but I feel like black people are just used as some kind of pawns in the government. Like their whole existence is just being politicized but even they can't see it. All I know is I truly want to see them on top in that country fr. 💪🏾❤️🖤

    • @Flint_the_uhhh
      @Flint_the_uhhh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      That's not strange at all. You're very correct about minorities being used as tools by those in power.
      Its something both sides of the political spectrum are guilty of. Your analysis on the issue is spot on.

    • @briansmith48
      @briansmith48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a time when black Americans were beginning to become prosperous. But Jim Crow laws were enacted.
      But even then American blacks prospered. Made a community of their own. In the center of it was a place nicknamed black millionaires row. But "mysteriously" it all got burnt down. 🔥

    • @igortytarenko9136
      @igortytarenko9136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are smart! Black people are just used by politicians and have been for decades! Democrats again and again tell you to vote for them, that they would change the system, but again and again nothing. They tells you to focus on racism and "police brutality", so you will not start improving your life. They manipulate you again ang again, but you keep ignorantly vote for them!

    • @lolaispure4296
      @lolaispure4296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I am with you. I always was dismissive and had a " get over it" attitude. Until i looked further and saw how much slavery dammaged black people in social and emotional aspects. So now i absolutely agree. We have to come together. Every african descendant.

    • @omartistry
      @omartistry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@lolaispure4296 Thank you, as an African American that means alot because I and many like me think that you knowing where u r from and have indigenous African culture is a privledge and at least you are not deemed the lowest. Even if u come to America. Now I understand that neither of us have it great.

  • @corvinvasquez6695
    @corvinvasquez6695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    This conversation between Africans and African Americans was a long time coming because I’m tired of the division in the diaspora between the two groups.

    • @Jibril_Abdulkadir
      @Jibril_Abdulkadir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There really isn’t division I am first generation African American but there is differences

    • @ii954
      @ii954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Jibril_Abdulkadir misunderstanding is a better word, we never really got a chance to talk to each other until recently because of all the systems keeping us apart.

    • @hyhoops1080
      @hyhoops1080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jibril_Abdulkadir wait how, can you be first gen African American. To be African American your ancestors were slaves

    • @godsin7299
      @godsin7299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      we get along in real life its just bullied africans and insecure african Americans online

    • @Ra99y
      @Ra99y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but as you said they are different diaspora? division is expected no?

  • @ManifestGamingChannel
    @ManifestGamingChannel หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:57 Input. You may be mistreated in your country, and it seems like we should just look past our grievances, but there's a reason you come to America. Said it yourself, "I want to do better for my life and family". Not only that, we can't just accept it and move on and try to "be successful". Sometimes we have to stop worrying about that and worry about the state of the whole community. Being successful in this country for us, often means you have to step on/over your own people for just an opportunity. That's a plague in our values.

  • @itsmj3103
    @itsmj3103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    I loved how Kai couldn't stop laughing at Elizabeth's jokes. You can always see him in the frame laughing when Elizabeth was being funny, he seems to appreciate her humor a lot lol 8:32 12:21

    • @Issaydee
      @Issaydee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      And 23:00 :)

    • @lungamadoda6992
      @lungamadoda6992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I caught that too😂

    • @williamchimezie7423
      @williamchimezie7423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Yea I saw that too Nigerians can be so funny without even trying

    • @asfanmarkmcgwire
      @asfanmarkmcgwire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@williamchimezie7423 facts haha

    • @benjaminbawa5273
      @benjaminbawa5273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@williamchimezie7423 Facts.

  • @a4l4l
    @a4l4l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +921

    Thanks for letting me be apart of this episode Jubilee!

    • @DaddyM7MD
      @DaddyM7MD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lance, hi.

    • @CGR1000.
      @CGR1000. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I respect and agreed with what you had to say💯

    • @shakiyagotdreams2299
      @shakiyagotdreams2299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      U did so well 🎉

    • @cadeolsen59
      @cadeolsen59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heyy

    • @a4l4l
      @a4l4l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaddyM7MD hi

  • @mvelo6331
    @mvelo6331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    As a South African, I'm happy that Lethabo is representing us.

    • @Lulu-wv1nt
      @Lulu-wv1nt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I am too. I was getting tired of seeing similar things and south Africa is represented by Whites

    • @bald_flop8063
      @bald_flop8063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She was great

    • @rachele6844
      @rachele6844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And she wasn’t whiteeee😭😭😭

    • @SawYouDie
      @SawYouDie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rachele6844 woah

  • @ppprpcppprpc2690
    @ppprpcppprpc2690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are important conversations to have and show....
    The.entire western Diaspora and the Motherland... That's the "Real Talk" we need to be having? and sharing with our youth!🎉❤😊

  • @Grace-jb7me
    @Grace-jb7me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    The only Jubilee episode where I’ve agreed with both sides entirely! This episode was amazing!! Everyone had wonderful things to share

    • @MrJpmoneypants
      @MrJpmoneypants 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I’m literally one minute in and the guys already made the claim that he can have post traumatic stress disorder, from something that happened to someone else. That is objectively untrue. You shouldn’t be agreeing with everything, I’m omitted in and we have something that is just factually inaccurate

    • @murk4552
      @murk4552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrJpmoneypants if everyone made great points ingrate, that is called a "consensus".

    • @KrisFlicks
      @KrisFlicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrJpmoneypants do trauma and the stress of said trauma can’t be passed down from one generation to the next, okay sure

    • @MrJpmoneypants
      @MrJpmoneypants 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KrisFlicks It absolutely can not and you disrespect people with PTSD to claim otherwise. Its not what "stress" means, its not what "trauma" means. You're not thinking, you're repeating.

  • @bellacairothehookqueen5373
    @bellacairothehookqueen5373 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    My grandfather used to tell us the story of the flying Africans and this story taught us the slavery hurt all Africans because people were taken from their families and those families mourned. And the people who were stolen we know their loss...but often we forget how many young children in Africa lost parents, uncles, Aunts and siblings. Slavery hurt us all.

    • @1991slsd
      @1991slsd ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, those black people enslaving other black people really damaged the african continent. So much damage done by black people

    • @belindakennedy5828
      @belindakennedy5828 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was other Africans that enslaved other Africans and sold them to Arabs and Europeans,the truth will set you free.

    • @penultimania4295
      @penultimania4295 ปีที่แล้ว

      they were not 'stolen'. They were sold by their own black 'brothers' lmao. Clown.

    • @tylergriffin2499
      @tylergriffin2499 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@penultimania4295 they were stolen

    • @ashleyrogers1930
      @ashleyrogers1930 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@tylergriffin2499 Some were and some were sold. Its called tribalism. Africans were complicit in slavery but got the short end of the deal.

  • @rachel7825
    @rachel7825 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    White people ask other whites with accents "where are you from i love your accent!" It's not an obsession with race, it's an interest in your wherabouts, culture and a curiosity about your life story. It is a compliment.

    • @fewcusi
      @fewcusi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Whites asking other whites… totally missing the point of this conversation.

    • @BlahBlahRebirh
      @BlahBlahRebirh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      @@fewcusino people do that of regardless of your race or ethnicity. As a black person people ask me about my southern accent white or black- it’s literally curiosity, people don’t gaf about race to that extent..

    • @estarriknight
      @estarriknight 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      It’s only an insult to that person if they are embarrassed about being different, which, ironically, means that person is the racist, not the person asking about their culture.

    • @mickeytwofingers911
      @mickeytwofingers911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@fewcusi no point missed. its a comparison.

    • @forexdissector9565
      @forexdissector9565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fewcusi You ever asked someone where they are from? Were you ever curious of someone's accent? Stop being stup1d.

  • @randomx4289
    @randomx4289 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow this was such a wonderful civil conversation 👏 this is how you properly communicate and exchange ideas. I would like to see more like this.

  • @cherylpursell199
    @cherylpursell199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1198

    Generational trauma… the trauma from past generations that shaped behaviors and attitudes that continue to affect the current generation.
    This is how slavery has affected the current generation. A huge responsibility is put on the current generation to change those attitudes that have been instilled over time.
    Similar to the families infected with addiction. I will never forget my nieces’ conversation with my sister. My niece was making an observation how our whole family were drinkers and smokers…even the young ones in a time when smoking was frowned upon.
    My niece was told that she was to be the change… stop the cycle. Basically we passed the buck onto the young. Hopefully over time, our family will be addict free. Praying for that.

    • @TingTingalingy
      @TingTingalingy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds about white.

    • @cherylpursell199
      @cherylpursell199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TingTingalingy yes, absolutely. I am white. No shame. Mostly human. Don’t know any different. How about you?

    • @TingTingalingy
      @TingTingalingy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cherylpursell199 you buy into that generational oppression crap. Your should give black folk reparations. Do a drive even for them.

    • @cherylpursell199
      @cherylpursell199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TingTingalingy I’m still trying to find any positive contributions that you have made to this conversation.

    • @rennynewborn2247
      @rennynewborn2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      A lot of black peoples still don't, know their history. The older peoples do not want to talk about it, bc it hurt to much. So ppls just be guessing.

  • @bennyanyimadu8117
    @bennyanyimadu8117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +396

    They need to make a part 2. This was one of my most anticipated episodes of middle ground
    Btw glad my country was represented 🇿🇦 South Africa

    • @smngvncnt8017
      @smngvncnt8017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm a South African. I feel like our lady kinda failed us in expressing Apartheid and outline all its aspects and impact .

    • @tyali84
      @tyali84 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@smngvncnt8017 I feel that too.

    • @thendovvhulahani6409
      @thendovvhulahani6409 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@smngvncnt8017 I feel so too. Also the kwaito comment

    • @blackairforce13
      @blackairforce13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So how does Orania still exists? I thought South African colonisation was over. Please excuse my ignorance

    • @smngvncnt8017
      @smngvncnt8017 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackairforce13 well Apartheid officially ended in 1994 in South Africa. Orania is just an attempt at creating a separate state exclusively for white/Afrikaaner people who hate living under the new found "democracy". They just want to segregate from black people.

  • @najah4531
    @najah4531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    10:20 as someone who is African but born in the uk, tribalism is such a prominent thing in African cultures and has its benefits and drawbacks. However, I feel as if the drawbacks are prominent as he mentioned oppression due to ur clan/ tribe. I’m Somali and I heard some parents say. They’re rather have their child marry another race or ethnicity than a tribe they look down upon

    • @najah4531
      @najah4531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      But speaking from my grand parents point of view, tribalism allowed them to reconnect with people of the same ethnicity abroad and carries that sense of home even when your not home

    • @jonralph8843
      @jonralph8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      What you call tribalism is actually nationalism. You see, in Europe, they can it nation, but when they come to Africa, they call it tribe. French is a tribe, English is a tribe etc. That's how it's supposed to be in Africa but they came and created artificial boundaries lumping up different ethnic nationalities into one country. That's why there's always struggle and strife.

    • @zoeskinner2871
      @zoeskinner2871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@jonralph8843 That's a really interesting way of putting it. I'm trying to picture the map of Africa organised in tribes rather than "nations", artificial borders. Wouldn't there then be hundreds and hundreds of tiny countries in Africa?

    • @md244-w6v
      @md244-w6v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@zoeskinner2871 think I’ve seen attempts at ‘dividing africa properly’(or at least way better than how the europeans did it), I can’t recall how it looked exactly but it wasn’t as fractured as you might think. Some tribes could very much so be lumped together because of so much shared commonality between the two - language and culture. In the same way you see varying groups of people under one country in places like europe too.

    • @BlueIvory4
      @BlueIvory4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@md244-w6v This is very true. Nigeria has some 300 ethnic groups but it’s very reasonable for Nigeria to be divided into ~12 countries because so many ethnic groups have either similar languages, cultures, histories or ancestries

  • @paolafresan6630
    @paolafresan6630 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m amazed and also sad how in the US, for example, when you sign up for school, or go get a vaccine, or etc., they always put a check box with the category of race.
    I think that’s being racist. Cause they are already judging you for that. And people take that for granted.
    When I lived a few years in the US, my mom was trying to look for a job, being Mexican, and a lot of jobs declined her for that.
    Here in Mexico, when you apply for a job, they just ask for your resume, for the years you have been working and your experience, and also something that is called RFC (which is the code you have since you are born, and that has a registration of all your data).
    And here in Mexico when there is a conversation about race, or money, or traumas we just laugh about it, we don’t take anything serious. We have a saying: who gets mad first, they lose.
    I think in the US, they do take a lot of things very serious and also extreme. Like using the race or oppress card to “win” an argument or sometimes make stuff up, to make the other person look or feel bad. They can’t just live a normal life without thinking of that.
    I know the situation it’s very hard for a lot of people, and it’s horrible what some people go through, but it’s very important to understand that it’s not okay to make others suffer with your problems.
    It’s important to ask for help, not to invoke hate.

    • @cynthiawilliams6788
      @cynthiawilliams6788 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ypur experience dont compare to the African experience. You're speaking without the knowledge of the subject. Live one day in our shoes then respond.