Build A Smart Home Control Panel EASILY!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2023
- In this video we take a look how to build a Smart Home control panel or Wallpanel with Fully Kiosk and Home Assistant, or any other smart home platform. I'll take you through how to setup and install Fully Kiosk, and how to create 3 automations to help use your control panel more easily!
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Just getting into home automation with home assistant, and this has given me a lot of hope and excitement around the possibilities. Thanks for the quality content!
OMG! I have been looking for the whole ID->Choose thing for ever. Never knew how to do it! Thank you Lewis!
Oh and of course: Awesome video, as always!
You are welcome, glad it was useful! 😅
excellent tutorial - thank you very much ive implemented the doorbell and wake on motion
Awesome and very usefull info! I am currently using a couple of Fire Tablets with Sharptools and will be looking into going this route if it can do everything I am currently doing in Sharptools - since I am already licensed with Fully Kiosk on both of my tablets, this would actually save me money for not having to pay for Sharptools licensing yearly. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos!
Pro tip: set your low battery percentage to 75% and it will be a lot better for the battery. The nominal voltage is where lithium batteries are the most happy and have the least amount of wear. Cycling a lithium battery below and above the nominal voltage is harder on the battery vs keeping it at nominal voltage.
Exactly, don't deep-cycle lithium cells. That will kill them really fast. I would do something like charging between 75 and 80%
For my fire tablet, every time it starts charging, the screen turns on. If I were to use a narrow charging profile, the screen would be frequently turning on and off, while using a little more battery. What would you do in that scenario?
@@jeffreychow8853 hmm, I'm not for sure. If you wanted to root the device you can sometimes get apps that can control the charge level internally rather than turning an external charger on and off. On my fire tablet it only illuminates for a few seconds after connecting a charger and then turns off. And the time it takes for the battery to discharge a few percent can take several days.
Thanks for the tip and information!
I'd make sure to use a dumb charger as well just to reduce heat. Definitely don't want fast charging.
Always entertaining and useful to watch your videos. I have had a tablet in the kitchen working as a dashboard/music thingy for over a year, and I still managed to learn a few things. Namely the 'panel view' and the 'numeric state choose', which I had never used before. Also, I had the tablet plugged in to power for more than 6 months, and so far so good.
Appreciate that thanks!
Thanks!! Really awsome info. I already had 2 tablets setup with Fully Kiosk Browser and is working great. However I did not know there was also a HA integration. I learned from your video I can basically use this to assign a button to open a different webpage. I now made a button to open google shopping list and a button to open my recipebook in the tablet in the kitchen. Game changer! :)
2 extra tips here:
1) You when you enable webinterface in settings, you can go from your pc to the settings and much easier change them and also backup/restore them
2) There are settings build in, so you can use the camera as motion detector to turn on screen for x seconds. Works great! I put some semi-transparant tape over the camera, so it will only see blur for extra security.
Thanks. Great info as always and step by step guide really helps
Thank you for the detailed instructions!
Kudos for the battery minder, good idea
I'm getting to wall tablet for about half year already, thanks for vid.
I saw another channel using a pixel tablet to create some nice dashboards recently. Fully Kiosk Browser has been around for years and looks fantastic. I am not totally sold on wall panels myself. I prefer a dashboard to be near to where I am most likely to use it, which honestly is the coffee table near where I sit in the lounge, or the kitchen bench. I admit, wall panels use to be my aim, but I found, from personal experience, that in my use case, walking to a wall panel was, in the end, no different to walking to an old fashioned switch or thermostat.
I agree, but it is nice for camera systems and alarm systems where being near the door makes sense
Very usefull for me, as beginer. Thank you
We still need the Mushroom/Minimalist wall tablet Dashboard video! PLEASSSEE
This was really useful, will definitely do this.
Great video. Thank you!!!
Great video, helped me understand how fully kiosk works. I think I'm just going to stick with my current set up, for the simplicity same of my partner. Currently I havey galaxy tab A8 on a tablet stand (don't want to mount stuff on the walls) and by changing a setting to have the lock button pressed 2 times, it opens HA and takes us to my alarmo panel with toggles for lights and to open the garage door
Hi, this is what i was looking for. Thx for that.
cheers for an updated video, seems to make more sense to me second time round
Glad it helped!
Thank you for this!
very informative and useful,love your video,tks
great video and use case ... particular like the idea of cutting/returning power to keep the device within band. I've had a lot of Android devices bloat on me over the past two years and looking forward to treating them better. :)
Very cool video Lewis, thanks! I do still need to see a in-depth wall panel dashboard tutorial 😁
Haha working on it 😅
Great video, thanks!
awesome video thanks im gonna get started tonight
Let me know how it goes 🤞
This has been so helpful to me. Thank you SO much Lewis. I only have one issue that I cannot seem to get past. I am using a 7th Gen Fire HD 8 for my wall panel. Everything works as expected except for one thing. The screen on/off from the dashboard in home assistant. Before I started to play with the motion triggering, I just toggled the screen off with the switch in the dashboard. When I toggled the switch back on, the Fire HD screen turned back on, but on the Lock Screen. I still have to swipe up from the bottom to get it to go back to the Fully Kiosk browser. I feel as though I missed a step, but not sure. Also, the "Unlock Screen" option in Device Management is greyed out. Any tips or suggestions anyone can share about this?
amazing Video Thank you for that
You have the option under Fully Kiosk it will run the screen in identification using the tablet camera
Great info Lewis. Just for your info there is a setting in Fully kiosk to start the screen on motion. Also you can set a screensaver 👍🏻
Thanks! There is indeed (think I mentioned it during the video) but don't like it as much as using a separate sensor
Ah, here is the follow up video. Thank you❤
One thing to add, you should give your tablet a static IP because if the IP changes, the full kiosk integration with HA will break. Correct?
thankyou so much, i have some spare mobile phones laying, now i can repurpose them as cool looking dashboards.
I guess I never knew you could make two triggers and then specify which action the trigger does. I always made 2 separate automations
Same here.
Ah yeah, it's superhandy and saves a lot of space re-typing similar automations out
So glad it just not me that learnt this today
Keep up the great work!
What was I'm my mind when planning the same is PoE wire with Type-C adapter.
Better connectivity, sleeker power delivery (no occupying the wall socket, no loose wiring)
Great tips!!!
Very informative video! I would have a very basic and silly question, to which I can't seem to find a clear answer from the depths of the interweb: Can the tablet run the HA backend part aswell, or would you still need to have the HA run on a separate server (raspberry pi for instance)? Many thanks!
Useful video as always. Really great content 👍 But, for anyone thinking about doing smart home pannel, please ditch the 3D printed frames. I also 3D print stuff that I need, because you can create things that are impossible to buy. But the looks of it isn't always great. If you're building walll panel, I recommend you get any picture frame. The design looks so much better that whatever you print. For example Ikea sell tons of them, and they laso include the carboard insert, which you can cut to exactly fit display of your tablet. And you'll get the Echo Show 15 look and feel without any Amazon limitations...
3D Printed frames can look amazing if you find a good design, or create one, and spend a bit of time finishing it properly, or printing with a Resin printer. I would not say ditch 3D printed frames. I would say, IF you need to 3D print a frame, spend the time to finish it well. FDM printing does create a not so smooth finish, but with a fine tip nozzle and a decent printer, you can get some great prints, and then just finish the properly. Also, don't print things like wall panel frames, in PLA. Use a stronger, more resilient filament. There are so many around these days, it is not really something to be afraid of doing. A lot of professional products are 3D printed these days, and look amazing as they are finished properly.
3D printing looks as good as you want to make it look. You are not locked into commercial offerings. You can make things that fit EXACTLY what you want. It is up to you how good or bad your 3D prints work. A lot of results are a lot better than commercial offerings if you take the time. I know this from personal printing experience on an Ender 5 Pro.
@@EsotericArctos You are absolutely correct in what you say. You can get nice finish and you can create awesome designs. Those custom designs are something 3D printing excels. I'm using it for custom stuff all the time. However, most of the wall panels I saw are just plain, simple frames (and mostly without finish) to somehow mount the tablet to wall. And in that case, it doesn't really make much sense to spend any energy to get only close to something you can by for $2. Then just glue the tablet to the cardboard insert that comes with the frame to keep it in place and you're done and have really great looking wall panel. Again, if you create some custom design, then why not. But for most cases for this application... Maybe, if you plan to reuse the tablet sometime in the future ad don't want to glue it to the cardboard, print an insert that fits exactly your tablet inside and the picture frame outside to keep it in place.
Great music choice, TTB!
thx a thousand times. it works.
Great content👍👍👍
Hi,
Great content. Very clear, very useful.
Cheers !
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Thanks for the great video, I have just one problem with my implementation: I can turn on/off the motion detection in HASS for the Fully Kiosk Browser but I've got no motion entity to use in automations. The integrated motion detection from the Kiosk runs fine and turns off/on the screen but I'd really like to have the integration into HASS for that. Anything I missed setting it up?
Just what I needed in one video as you always do .. thank you very much.. by the way I am from Oman you probably didnt heard about and watch your video all the time and I learn a lot about HA from you
Thanks so much, glad the videos are useful!
Awesome. Thank you.
Thanks! 🙏🏻
thank you so much
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Awesome video! How did you hide the HA title bar on the dashboard?
Very useful thanks. I have a question though, is it possible to get the tablet to utter a sound depending on a sensor
Thanks for the video! What tablet would you or anyone else recommend without having a massive laggy experience? I'm looking at the Tab A7 Lite, which costs around 70€ used. Is there anything cheaper? Is the A7 Lite enough?
great automation idea on the screen on motion, one question if I have a camera playing 24/7 on my dashboard design will this be using cpu of the server all the time? and will be making unnecesary wear on the ssd that runs my home assistant server?
Fantastic video
🙏🏻
For the video feed I made the tablet view a 1 panel view, added a vertical stack with a grid/horizontal stack for all the things I want to show and added a conditional view above it to trigger when movement is detected, this works better for slower devices where loading a new view takes a little bit too long for my liking.
Great video. You have tough me a bunch. I implemented the wall panel as per your video and installed Fully. I’m still using the trail version. I can’t get the screen to turn off with no motion. Service switch:turn of works. Any idea what the problem may be?
well they upped the price to €10,99. thanks for this tutorial i'm following it now
Where does the motion detection sensor come from? From the companion app or the fully kiosk integration? I do not find the motion detection sensor in both of them with my fire tablet...
hi ! what card are you using at the top for your view navigation ? Is it a glance card?
Hi another great video but could you please share the STL files for the wall mount bracket?
Video, door bell, weather for today/tomorrow would be likely 90% of needed. Would use calendar but it is no go for family I guess where everyone has its own. Lights better be switched with regular switches or smart ones too I think,
Great video and great alternative for a wallpanel. I need som help with updating the information shown. I am putting up on the wallpanel a lovelace view that contains a clock and two temperature sensors. The clock is a HACS digital clock and the sensors are presented on two mushroom entity cards. Displaying this view on my computer screen the clock and the mushroom cards update along with the sensors they are representing. However on the wallpanel only the clock updates, not the mushroom entity cards. I can naturally force an update but have not been able to find a setting to allow these cards to update normally?
thank you so mutch for your vedios i larn mor thinks from how can i find your tab wall bracket i need it
So do you use a seperate/developer google account for devices like this rather than risking random guests having access, or does the full kiosk lock the device android os somehow?
Just saying, but you have the nice "Threshold" helper for those above/below automations. That gives you a nice binary_sensor to trigger on...
So what benefit would it be to use the "newer" Galaxy tablet as recommended in your links (A8 vs A7) ? Assuming this became a dedicated home smart panel. . . Would any other (cheaper) tablet do ?
Would there be a way to disable input from the tablet or require a pin to use if the alarm is enabled?
Great project. I'm very curious how you created the dashboard that is showing on the tablet. Do you have an article and/or video on how you created this? I'm especially interested in how you created the left part with the (I think) markdown card with the menu options
It's 3d printing for sure
@@MrArthys they do not mean the case around the tablet. They mean the dashboard he created with all the buttons on it in home assistant
recommended devices? Would this work with a Fire TV (would it need google store adding)?
Cool summary!
Having tried a few of these things before, i didnt like using the navigation feature of fully to navigate to a different dashboard to show the camera feed when the doorbell rings. It just took to long to be useful, at least on a tablet thats near me and always visible. Also, you lose the context, so navigating back to where you were before is cumbersome.
Instead, i use "browser mod", which has a service you can call to show the "more info" dialog for a specific entity on any registered browser. This goes a lot faster, even on my old fire hd tablet.
My full automation is a bit more complex. I use browser mod and fully kiosk browser. I have a home assistant script called "door peek", which disables the tablet screensaver, sets the screen brightness to max, disables the screen timeout (through fully). Then using browser mod i show a popup window with my camera feed (browser mod). Then i wait 30 seconds, close the popup, and revert screen brightness and display timeout. After a 5 seconds the tablet goes back to screensaver mode, aka display almost off.
I call this script when the doorbell rings, when the letterbox is opened, and when frigate detects a person near the door. Extremely handy.
Thanks for the info!
Where to find this script or careto share
TH-camr "Smart Home Junkie" does a complete tutorial on this very thing@@izaya8986
I assume since you can set the screen to come on with motion than any trigger will work, is that correct? For example if I wanted to have it come on when an alert is triggered?
@10:30 What button press are you using to load the start url after the 1 minute delay?
Hey Lewis, how did you get the full screen with no access tab to the left or dashboard editor 3 dots on the top right?
Cheap Lenovo tables have the battery conservation option built-in. They limit charging to 60% and turn the charger back on if the battery drops below 40%. IMHO that's the most optimal range for this type of usage and that's what I'm using it for also.
where did you get the motion sensor from? fully kiosk has a motion detection switch, but cant find the related sensor entity
Is there a limit as to how many tablets can be placed in the home with this integration?
I also have a reolink doorbell and @9:53 you select doorbell button pressed, I don't have this entity, mine says: 'Doorbell PoE visitor' how come thats different from yours?
also, you recommend setting a automation for charging and discharging a battery. but are devices nowadays not protected against overcharging and thus 'bloating'? I set my TabA8 to battery protection (not charge above 85%) and keep it 'charging' all the time. You say this is bad? can you elaborate. My guess is the constant charging/discharging is going to degragde the battery even more than keeping it charged and plugged in.
Can this be used in the USA you speak of purchasing in euro or pounds? And can I use an old fire tablet?
Thanks
Thanks for the video.
Can you share your learnings and recommendations for the tablet wall installation? Any special mount or case?
Watch the original video for exactly how I installed it 😅
What NVR you use to integrate your security cameras to the homepage?
Thanks for nice tutorial. I get to a point when i suppose to type in login and password. It didnt accept it, than after trying couple of times ha screen dissapeard with some errors. Now i cannot connect kiosk to ha at all...
Hi, Can you please send me the Link of the Tablet wall Support?
Thanks Nice Video
So, what if you're planning to make some sort of always on display by just leaving on the screen, can you use the free version?
wont a POE android tabled work well for this specific implementation? I've seen a couple online, maybe you could experiment with those
What are the best tablets that people are using for wall tablets?
Does Fully Kiosk allow me to utilize the tablet for issuing voice commands or voice assistant queries? Can it still be used as a screen mirroring target (regular Galaxy tab feature)
Can the tablet be used to voice control Home Assistant? That would be handy.
Can i use like cheap tablets for this. For educational and training only. Like around $20 to $30 price?
I’ve been using Fully Kiosk for almost a year now, and still learned something from your great video! Unfortunately for some reason FK crashes every so often on my Fire Tablet 10 and I lose control ability. Any idea why that might be?
Also, in an unrelated issue with my camper fridge, I needed to know how to use a switch on/off delay and your video came just in time!
I had a lot of issues with my Fire Tablet running it too. I didn't find a fix tbh although i havent tried it for a year or so. The moral is spend a bit more on an Android tablet next time I think. Shame because you can pick up the Fire tablets really cheap sometimes.
Mine is also a very old Fire now so perhaps newer ones work better with it?
How about having the tablet reboot every night through an automation to make sure it is running fresh each day?
@EverythingSmartHome I feel like I might have missed some steps... I installed the Fully Kiosk Browser and configured like you said in the video but the screen doesn't turn off. Do you have any tips to get this to work for my wallpanel? I read that more people share this issue unfortunately...
Any idea on how to open reolink app instead of a separated view in HA. Reason is that if someone rings the doorbell I can see but not interact ( speak send voice message, etc)
Anyone think about running a backup MQTT server on the tablet? That would allow interaction with MQTT devices.
Wonder if you could grab a picture or a few seconds video clip from the tablet on motion.
Thank you for sharing this and all of your videos. How do you recharge your tablet when it's on its wall mount?
Thanks in advance,
May be put the charger on a smart plug or a plug that is connected to a smart switch. We can put a scheduled charging time or using home assistant companion app trigger when the battery reaches below the threshold say 20% of battery? I found he answers that from 6:10
Really cool. Thanks for the video. Thing that makes me hesitant; Google 2-step authentication and security on your modem creates a pretty decent wall from someone accessing your system, however introducing something like this I’m hesitant cause it creates a entry point. Apple App Store is pretty secure, but android apps aren’t. Who owns the app, and do they have a back door to access your stuff, or a back door that can be exploited.
You had recommended the amcrest doorbell in a previous video...is the reolink better?!
Doesnt samsung have a battery care feature that your can activate that will automatically stop charging at 80%? I have it on my S20, surely its on that tablet too?
hi what trigger do I pick to do motion thanks
I think using the doorbell motion sensor to trigger the full screen camera view might be a better option. That way it can load up before the door bell is even triggered?
Yeah just whatever works for you, not a bad idea if the motion is reliable
@everythingsmarthome Any luck using two-way-audio between tablets and Reolink doorbells thru HA?
Thanks for the great and really useful video. Do you know if this works for amazon fire tablets?
Yep they are a popular choice!
Is it possible to get this to work with Smartthings? And if so, how? I could only see this work with home assistance in the video.