Jhin's armor on that arm is actually to protect his arm and joints from the recoil of the fully-assembled Whisper. I believe this was confirmed by August when discussing his model in game?
@@adrianatienza3483 When he's using his ultimate, you can see he's bracing the gun on his right arm and shoulder (As well as having the rest of the rail-guns setup attached to his right shoulder)
@@adrianatienza3483if whisper is not fully assembled and was simply a small pistol then he will use his unarmored arm. But the moment he fully assembled the gun he will shoot with his armored arm since the rest of the parts are on his armored arm
I think Jhin just cut of his arm, put mechanical arm and now shoot his ult with it, he also cut his legs and replace them just to stand still while shooting
There's a interaction between Annie and Jhin in the new cards, where Annie would say "You've got a weird eye, Mr. Jhin!" To Jhin would reply "The better to aim with, my dear." So that's the reason why he's mask would cover he's right eye and I'm assuming he wants it to restrict he's breathing so he could aim he's gun better without any sway but he's still weird for constantly being in sniper mode.
Restricted breathing would cause you to sway more. You would need to take deeper and more labored breaths to stay conscious but the eye patch would help aiming though so i think its a mix of personal preference and efficiency
I'm sorry to say that, because i like what you wanted to say, BUT i had to read it 3 times before i understood everything. There is a difference between "his" and "he's" (he is). That just messed with my brain. If you don't know what to use just say it in 2 words. Example: cover his/he's right eye. "Cover he is right eye" just doesn't make sense. (No hate, but i just had the huge urge to say that because that really scrambled my thoughts) ♡
You don't need a mask to restrict breathing, snipers in the army are taught 'Breath control' when shooting, I think he just enjoys masks, he is a masked serial killer after all.
The Bullets from the Maker are most likely infused with Illusion Magic. It was mentioned in the comic when Kayn touched one of his "Artworks". He said something along the lines "Their face was folded like a flower with purple colors(something like this) but when I touched it, it just turned red on my fingers"
7:21 Fun fact “Was is sorrow or the bullet that broke her heart” is actually a line from a polish poem. The poem is called “Elegia o chłopcu polskim” by Kamil Baczyński. For the interested this is how it looks like in polish: “Czy to była kula, synku, czy to serce pękło?”
A few things I wanted to mention. 1) The legion deserter was the legion marauder. Based on the marauder card interactions, we learn that he was not well liked by the rest of the army, as his actions reflected poorly upon noxus. Also they have the same voice and hair. 2) This is more headcannon but I wanted pose this question to gage how it would fit. Would Jhin having a connection with Kindred be a good idea or would it take away from both characters? The idea is something akin to a muse for Jhin as originally he was just a murderer, but upon seeing kindred in action, whether by one of their plays or in action, he was inspired to instill a similar level of awe from his "performances". After all, to quote Finishing Soates, "The end is not for those who wear no masks. She showed me, and it was beautiful".
Kindred take lives and that's it, no performing, no art, no pizzazz, no planning, no theatricals, nothing related on how Jhin does his killing. I don't think that Jhin has more muses than himself and his previous performances, knowing how narcissistic can he be, maybe "peers" like The Maker, but to me he doesn't look up to anyone.
@@adregarcia1667 The relation to theatrical stage plays is undeniable based on some of stories surrounding Kindred; that being Finishing Sothes and A Good Death. Whenever the real maskes of Kindred are worn, typically when on stage, their influence is strong in the performance. With that said, it is true that it is mostly unrelated to how Jhin kills his victims, but the case in which one influenced the other would not be out of the question.
@@h-manandfriends9653 Idk how magic affects the mind and the overall perception of people regarding the masks used in the play. Of what I'm sure is that in those plays what we see is the perspective, imagination and creativity of a producer, a writer and of the actors and actresses regarding Kindred, not the live performance of the spirits known as such. I respect your POV in the matters of what are Jhin's muses or what exactly inspires him, but to me, is a little far fetched to connect him with Kindred as who he aspires to be or do the same as them. They both deliver death, but very differently.
Based from Jhin and Stagehand interactions I think the Stagehand is more like a Kamikaze. Infact she is an ephemeral card, which means she always dies at the end of the turn. So i think she dies from an explosion by herself, not from Jhin's bullet.
YES! Even the flavour text implies that it was guilt that lead her to commit suicide with that bomb : "was it sorrow or the bullet that broke her heart?". Which I think makes it even more grim.
@@mrdeafter Yeah, I came to the comments to say that. I don't know how much of that is meant to be taken as canon, but it definitely makes it clear that she was not betrayed at the last second by Jhin or anyone else, and knew that she was sacrificing herself with the bomb.
Necrit i dont think the stagehand was tasked with planting a seed and then the Kashuri or Jhin killed her, based on Jhin interactions and level up card i think she was a suicide bomber. Jhin scripted theplay in a way that the stagehand is the final act in which she sacrifices herself.
This is what I thought too - but then what bullet does the flavour text refer to? In what way exactly was the Stagehand's heart broken? There are a couple of unanswered questions here.
Yes, she was a suicide bomber, it's hinted towards in Jhin's story in path of champions... and the fact that the bomb in her art looks like it's about to detonate. Plus some interactions between her and Jhin.
For those who don't know what an overture is, it is, and I quote from Google, "an orchestral piece at the beginning of an opera, suite, play, oratorio, or other extended composition." In other words, Jhin's flavor text comes before the four other acts and is an intro to what came next. I assume that his other cards then come at the end for the finale.
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 well true but you know that jhin can hold number 1 is still very impressive. I think a large portion of the comunity would actually agree with that statement ^^
The stagehand is actually some sort of kamikaze, explained on her two star mission on path of the champions, there Jhin asks her if she knows the next step and she confirms that her mission is to plant the bomb in the noxian camp and explode with it, Jhin even told her "For a brief beautiful moment you'll be brighter than any star"
I just love Jhin. His design is a massive inspiration for me artistically, and his stories were the ones that originally peaked my interest in the LoL lore.
No matter who the maker is. There is one thing that matters. They are the most nihilistic human being in all of Runeterra. Just by making half baked copies of hextech machinery, and calling it art. That scares Draven. For Draven is the most nihilistic human being in all of runeterra.
@@dravendraven1471 I mean, if we're talking just power sure, but Ionian tech seems like it can be pretty versatile. They've got spy drones and mind-control devices. Just imagine what else is hidden in the armory.
I don't think The Maker is the new champion. But I wish she could one day become one. With the little bio we know about her I can imagine some of her spell. And I'm not even going to speak about her design...... masterpiece.
I think The Maker is a former Kinkou who might be based in the Shadow Isles and is linked Vilemaw. She is a multi-limbed, multi-eyed manipulator spinning a web with glowing blue green aura coming out of her back (Shadow Isle colors) which can manifest demonic arms. Hear me out, my reasoning is below (not 100% certain obviously but more than reasonably): A few notes about The Maker (and origin theory): 1) She has three sets of arms. 2 human arms with claw tipped hands, 4 mechanical with rounded tipped human hands, and 12 purple demonic arms with claw tipped hands. The demon arms are manifested from the green glow coming from under that pseudo-carapace she wears. The green glow and demonic arms smacks of the Shadow Isles to me. The claw tips looks like spider leg design in LoR. These demonic(?) arms have to be shadow isle based by the same blue-green glow behind her. Multi armed like spider appearance especially with the multi-eyes. *The only other things in League legends that I can tell that have those types of arms are the Kinkou's Keeper of Masks and the demonic Riven in the Portal on Bard's card art (I have no idea who demon Riven but I want to know). 2) The Owl's eyes are the exact same design as Master Yi's goggles and Mecha-Jax's faceplate. I would say normal Jax but it only has 6. However, the design looks like a 7th lens(?) is hidden under a mouth piece. However, multi eye designed helmets are in her card art. One that has 3 eyes and another that is flat brimmed with 5 eyes. There is also another 5 eyed card in Dragon Ambush. Either way, very much like a spider even if Noxian spiders tend to have 4 eyes... weirdly. She herself has 5 eyes (4 on right eye and 1 normal human eye). 3) She is spinning webs in both of her main and ability card art. Is it innuendo to plot intrigue or direct reference to spiders weaving webs.... yet again? 4) the throne she sits on and almost all background art of Maker shows some kind of twisted root design behind her. The only region that uses twisted root design prominently in their art work is Kinkou. 5) the green glowing potions look like they contain the juice from the Shadow Isle card Undergrowth which says "Even in the Shadow Isles, old growth finds new purpose". Innuendo? Who is this card connected to? Is that quote a reference to The Maker? - I am 100% certain she is Kinkou, either Human or like a Keeper of Masks. - Way too damn many spider reference. - Who card is Haunted Tomb a reference for?
The Stagehand was on a suicide-mission. I dont think the bullet reference is for whats happening at that moment but when the invasion happened. Jhin coerced her into killing herself as an AcT oF bEaUtY or whatever his kink suggested.
On the art for Gruesome Theater, I think one of the flaps next to Lord Broadmane kinda looks like the Subjugator's hair, so maybe the figure on the right is actually her.
I'd really like a more sinister and quiet support character. Someone who deviously controls the happenings of a city's underworld without anyone knowing who they are or what they did till its to late to do anything about it. Probably based on zaun, the black rose, the crimson circle, the demons, the darkin, zeds shadow order or some kind of baccai. Or tbh any class of champion belonging to those factions.
@@zeppelincraft1443 the spider looks more like a disign thing, what it looks like is she is just a normal human that is brilliant of Ionian weapon craft (which likely revolve around mechanicallsing Ionian magic) and then just make herself a set of animated arms to assist her crafting
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 Maybe its design is meant to be like a Buddihist deity with a lot of arms. The depth of this design interests me. I mean, why does she even do this? And why does she work with Jhin.
I still don't see why that Galio lore makes Necrit so upset. I mean, it's true that was said that Durand never told his secret, but as it has always happened in our world someone started to study Galio and discovered a way to create something similar, but never understood how to put into the stone emotion like Durand did with Galio. They are imperfect copy of the perfect one, I really don't see where is the problem lorewise.
There is a massive underlying secret with Galio, something Swain mentioned. He is one kind. Also Damacia is afraid of any thing Magical it just doesn't fit at all. It breaks established lore not expands on it.
I think its mainly a lack of when these cards exist. Like we can estimate a rough guess of when certain events portrayed by cards took place but Galio's is just kinda hard to tell. We barely have any info on whats happening with the mage rebellion going forward to begin with so having a bunch of other petricite beings suddenly become canon makes the whole mage rebellion confusing because they never implied their existence, so if such things had existed why did they never use them against mages or why they never activated during the mage rebellion.
@@freshlymemed5680 I agree with the fact that we lack of a time line about all this lore, but on the other hand we can be sure that they are the first to ricreate something similar to Galio since the oldest stonecreation was build buy the oldest human artisan. I have taken this information from card interaction. So, I belive, that this artisan are making those in this time and that, maybe, this could be commissioned by Demacia government to have a new weapon against magic or something like that.
@@Flimmertje I disagree on "breaking established lore". I agree on saying that it has created a bit of misunderstanding on the general demacia lore, but I see many possible way to confirm it without retconning something. I mean Demacian are scared by magic, so something that protect them from it could be seen as something useful. It could be some sort of "secret project" to have an army of stone warrior immune to magic.
@@morion2645 yes! My guess is that galios cards are happening right now, maybe after the fight with the mages at the warriors cinematic, or just before
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Jhin's level up animation was from the prospective of the stagehand. that fourth shot being the final, surprise betrayal
Annie's worldwalker cards are completely new lore that was only connected to her most recent story. Prior to that there were no hints of Annie being connected to the Black Rose or Mordekaiser, so it is unfair to say the worldwalker cards are objectively better than Galio's for example, because similarly all that is missing from Galio's cards is a connecting story.
I would assume the girl in the art of jhin's card is not The Maker herself but a mere ''speaker'' for her. Notice the necklace she has like a living thing ? I would assume it is allowing The Maker to talk from the girl. And owls are her to see what is going on around. What do you think ?
It really sucks. Basically Kusho was working for this Ionian faction all the way long by maintaining a facade that he is the guardian of order. Zed found this out and killed Kusho then prevented Shen from learning the truth because he would definitely quit his job if he heard about the horrible details. He also told Shen he DID kill his father without lying. For Shen his father was a role model. It's better for him believe it that way.
I’m pretty sure the new champ is an octopus. First the slime on the wall can be explained by octopus slime octopus are also known to eat oysters hence why she was in the oyster shack. The champ leaks have said that the champs q is whip like which might just be the tentacles being used like a whip. Along with the fact that tf and graves had said the new champ had a lot of arms. Tf saying that the champ has clothes he has never seen before could be the color changing abilities of octopus. So im almost certain the new champ is an octopus.
I disagree with the stage hand being the student. I believe jhin is the student considering it mentions he seemed to excel in all subjects, smithing included while in prison. I mean the connections are all there, the maker is a prodigy genius/artist that specializes in artistic weapons and machinations of destruction from what we have seen and its been alluded to that she's on the more brutal and merciless end of the spectrum eg she willingly let loose a mass murder just to get her artifacts back. She's the perfect fit as a possible mentor to jhin who wouldn't mind his murderous quirks if not help indulge them. It would explain jhins odd collection of traits and characteristics, He was an unknown ingenious murderer with an obsession with art that gets sprung from jail by a mysterious benefactor gets outfitted in a literal fortune of gear with a steady supply of EXPENSIVE ammunition being funneled to him wherever he goes then proceeds to follow her hit list without seeming like he intends to turn on her all while being allowed to do his own thing on the side unhindered with said fortune of gear and ammunition. That's a lot of money, effort, and time to put into someone your not certain will live up to your expectations and wont betray you especially if that someone is an unknown infamous murdering psycho. Just seems unlikely that she would put all that into someone she wasn't certain would pay off and if he had been her student it would be the stars aligning in showing us how jhin came to be JHIN.
I played Garen path of champs today first chapter, and some people said his relationship with Kat got retconned, but it's not! Garen is still deeply in love with Kata, but there's some kind of reason that she can't be with him...
Oh darling, traditional narrative order is SO passé. To begin the story in media res is to place the audience at the beating heart of the drama. It is so tellingly ironic that, although the beginning and end receive the most attention, they are without a doubt the least important parts of a story. The true beauty of a tragedy... is in its making.
8:00 I must disagree. Her very agressive stat-line, the bomb she is carrying and the fact she is ephemereal too + dialogue between her and Jhin on the path of champions suggest she agreed to repent through suicide bombing, which is even darker tbh. I suggest reading the dialogue in Path of champions for more info.
The Maker looks like she's from Ixtal, with her green silk-like strings that make up her golden shawl and magical arms. She may be a red herring, or she may be a traveler, being a mage from Ixtal traveling to Ionia to free the infamous mass murderer and then later for some reason moving to Bilgewater as her pet(Jhin) has made his way to P&Z.
The next champ has already been leaked to be Nilah, she's from Bilgewater and she uses water as a weapon most notably using it as a whip. Riot had also already met with the leaker to ask him/her what else he/she knows and how they can both go about doing their respective "businesses". But in all honesty, The Maker would be an amazing future champion akin to having a passive like Ornns, she can make her weapons in lane, shed be really dope. A benefactor just like Renata Glasc, but with more oomph.
can i just note that jhin in the comic had a normal arm even untill zed and shen and akali captured him but his splash and the new cinematic he has a robot looking arm? also the lady has many of them that look exactly like it.
Is it possible that Jhin is kind of a double agent? An instrument for Ionian's distabilizatiion at first and then a tool to overthrow Noxian's invasion or occupation? An ironic tale of a puppetmaster being manipulated by multiple benefactors? What do you think?
Couldnt the lady with many arms and a laughing jar be Illaoi? The many “arms” could be her tentacles and the jar “laughing” could be her idol with its open mouth
I only wonder if they'll change his region if they ever tell more of his backstory. I don't think we need it but its interesting that he is the one of, if not the only, champion with no designated region
I mean above an oyster shack in bilgewater is the last place you would expect an ionian weapons crafter to be. Especially if they released a master killer they don't want people finding out is connected to them. Really would be blue balling people that want a bilgwater champion though.
I just noticed this fact today. In LoR's Jhin has purple eye But in the original has Brown eye. Why Riot changed so much. Look at the Mind of Virtuoso and LoR jhin reveal or trailer
I think the priestess in The Stagehand card suicided or she LET/BEG jhin to kill her. These are the events where one can contemplate if she died due to sorrow or bullet. Dying in sorrow is different from dying because of sorrow.
would that mean that potentially master yi's ocular was also made by the maker? i mean the design is simmilar and we got no conformation that Doran actually made the helmet just that he gave it to yi.
Jhin's armor on that arm is actually to protect his arm and joints from the recoil of the fully-assembled Whisper. I believe this was confirmed by August when discussing his model in game?
But then why does he shoot with the non-armored arm?
@@adrianatienza3483 Actually, he ult with his armored arm.
@@adrianatienza3483 When he's using his ultimate, you can see he's bracing the gun on his right arm and shoulder (As well as having the rest of the rail-guns setup attached to his right shoulder)
@@adrianatienza3483if whisper is not fully assembled and was simply a small pistol then he will use his unarmored arm. But the moment he fully assembled the gun he will shoot with his armored arm since the rest of the parts are on his armored arm
I think Jhin just cut of his arm, put mechanical arm and now shoot his ult with it, he also cut his legs and replace them just to stand still while shooting
There's a interaction between Annie and Jhin in the new cards, where Annie would say "You've got a weird eye, Mr. Jhin!" To Jhin would reply "The better to aim with, my dear." So that's the reason why he's mask would cover he's right eye and I'm assuming he wants it to restrict he's breathing so he could aim he's gun better without any sway but he's still weird for constantly being in sniper mode.
Also the interaction is a reference to Little Red Riding Hood.
Restricted breathing would cause you to sway more. You would need to take deeper and more labored breaths to stay conscious but the eye patch would help aiming though so i think its a mix of personal preference and efficiency
@@dustincarroll4683 you keep both of your eyes open when aiming a gun, so also not that. Jhin is just crazy
I'm sorry to say that, because i like what you wanted to say, BUT i had to read it 3 times before i understood everything. There is a difference between "his" and "he's" (he is). That just messed with my brain. If you don't know what to use just say it in 2 words. Example: cover his/he's right eye. "Cover he is right eye" just doesn't make sense. (No hate, but i just had the huge urge to say that because that really scrambled my thoughts) ♡
You don't need a mask to restrict breathing, snipers in the army are taught 'Breath control' when shooting, I think he just enjoys masks, he is a masked serial killer after all.
The Bullets from the Maker are most likely infused with Illusion Magic. It was mentioned in the comic when Kayn touched one of his "Artworks".
He said something along the lines "Their face was folded like a flower with purple colors(something like this) but when I touched it, it just turned red on my fingers"
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Fun fact “Was is sorrow or the bullet that broke her heart” is actually a line from a polish poem. The poem is called “Elegia o chłopcu polskim” by Kamil Baczyński.
For the interested this is how it looks like in polish: “Czy to była kula, synku, czy to serce pękło?”
Beatiful poem. Nice catch!
Poland mentioned🦅🦅🦅🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
A few things I wanted to mention. 1) The legion deserter was the legion marauder. Based on the marauder card interactions, we learn that he was not well liked by the rest of the army, as his actions reflected poorly upon noxus. Also they have the same voice and hair. 2) This is more headcannon but I wanted pose this question to gage how it would fit. Would Jhin having a connection with Kindred be a good idea or would it take away from both characters? The idea is something akin to a muse for Jhin as originally he was just a murderer, but upon seeing kindred in action, whether by one of their plays or in action, he was inspired to instill a similar level of awe from his "performances". After all, to quote Finishing Soates, "The end is not for those who wear no masks. She showed me, and it was beautiful".
Kindred take lives and that's it, no performing, no art, no pizzazz, no planning, no theatricals, nothing related on how Jhin does his killing. I don't think that Jhin has more muses than himself and his previous performances, knowing how narcissistic can he be, maybe "peers" like The Maker, but to me he doesn't look up to anyone.
@@adregarcia1667 The relation to theatrical stage plays is undeniable based on some of stories surrounding Kindred; that being Finishing Sothes and A Good Death. Whenever the real maskes of Kindred are worn, typically when on stage, their influence is strong in the performance. With that said, it is true that it is mostly unrelated to how Jhin kills his victims, but the case in which one influenced the other would not be out of the question.
@@h-manandfriends9653 Idk how magic affects the mind and the overall perception of people regarding the masks used in the play. Of what I'm sure is that in those plays what we see is the perspective, imagination and creativity of a producer, a writer and of the actors and actresses regarding Kindred, not the live performance of the spirits known as such. I respect your POV in the matters of what are Jhin's muses or what exactly inspires him, but to me, is a little far fetched to connect him with Kindred as who he aspires to be or do the same as them.
They both deliver death, but very differently.
@@h-manandfriends9653 .
Based from Jhin and Stagehand interactions I think the Stagehand is more like a Kamikaze. Infact she is an ephemeral card, which means she always dies at the end of the turn. So i think she dies from an explosion by herself, not from Jhin's bullet.
YES! Even the flavour text implies that it was guilt that lead her to commit suicide with that bomb : "was it sorrow or the bullet that broke her heart?". Which I think makes it even more grim.
Just play Jhin path of champions 2 star story and you'll know the true story of her
@@mrdeafter Yeah, I came to the comments to say that. I don't know how much of that is meant to be taken as canon, but it definitely makes it clear that she was not betrayed at the last second by Jhin or anyone else, and knew that she was sacrificing herself with the bomb.
@@mrdeafter You say that like it's simple. *currently at 115 Miss Fortune shards and no Jhin*
@@FightingDuskstalker I have 140+ shard on mf Jinx but 5 on Darius lol
It is amazing how Riot is able to add new mysteries and information to a character with already a lot of lore.
Always stunned by how good they can tell stories over mutliple cards.
You don't want be stunned when we're talking about Jhin in LoR.
I'm really happy to see Jhin's lore updated in LoR
Necrit i dont think the stagehand was tasked with planting a seed and then the Kashuri or Jhin killed her, based on Jhin interactions and level up card i think she was a suicide bomber. Jhin scripted theplay in a way that the stagehand is the final act in which she sacrifices herself.
This is what I thought too - but then what bullet does the flavour text refer to? In what way exactly was the Stagehand's heart broken? There are a couple of unanswered questions here.
Thats also implied in jhins two star story mission in the path of champions
Yes, she was a suicide bomber, it's hinted towards in Jhin's story in path of champions... and the fact that the bomb in her art looks like it's about to detonate. Plus some interactions between her and Jhin.
Yeah, I heard from the lore staff early on Jhin's release that he was meant to convey the beauty,and also grusome cultural aspects of Asia.
It also makes sense in jhins level up, he fires 2 shots, then a massive explosion happens
For those who don't know what an overture is, it is, and I quote from Google, "an orchestral piece at the beginning of an opera, suite, play, oratorio, or other extended composition." In other words, Jhin's flavor text comes before the four other acts and is an intro to what came next. I assume that his other cards then come at the end for the finale.
Jhin is THE BEST Champion in League and that although he was released in 2016
4 4's into the 2000's
What do you mean 2016? 2016 is like the prime of champions design in League!
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 well true but you know that jhin can hold number 1 is still very impressive. I think a large portion of the comunity would actually agree with that statement ^^
The stagehand is actually some sort of kamikaze, explained on her two star mission on path of the champions, there Jhin asks her if she knows the next step and she confirms that her mission is to plant the bomb in the noxian camp and explode with it, Jhin even told her "For a brief beautiful moment you'll be brighter than any star"
When the stage hand dies jhin aways says 4 which was his last shot leveling up
I just love Jhin. His design is a massive inspiration for me artistically, and his stories were the ones that originally peaked my interest in the LoL lore.
Wait... He inspires you artistically? 😟
@@XDXDXDXDHAHAHAHAHHAXDXDXDXDXD In terms of character design, yes
@@niffry oh, we are safe
If any of your friends hears the words "you will be poetry", i hope they got fast legs.
@@XDXDXDXDHAHAHAHAHHAXDXDXDXDXD Yeah-- I feel that even without the potential serial killer vibes that's kind of a weird thing to say to someone
No matter who the maker is. There is one thing that matters. They are the most nihilistic human being in all of Runeterra. Just by making half baked copies of hextech machinery, and calling it art. That scares Draven. For Draven is the most nihilistic human being in all of runeterra.
Most sanest Draven Draven
Is it really half-baked, when at least it doesn’t require Brackern souls to function?
@@GoldLight73 it doesn't have the extra kick that the crystals give. I'd even bet that chemtech can do way more damage than what the maker can make.
@@dravendraven1471 I mean, if we're talking just power sure, but Ionian tech seems like it can be pretty versatile. They've got spy drones and mind-control devices. Just imagine what else is hidden in the armory.
@@GoldLight73 can it nuke
This is what i love about the lore expanding potential LoR has, more of this please.
I don't think The Maker is the new champion. But I wish she could one day become one. With the little bio we know about her I can imagine some of her spell. And I'm not even going to speak about her design...... masterpiece.
9:22 i thought Master Kusho is the one who freed Jhin... and everything else in ionia is/was under HIS control
I think The Maker is a former Kinkou who might be based in the Shadow Isles and is linked Vilemaw. She is a multi-limbed, multi-eyed manipulator spinning a web with glowing blue green aura coming out of her back (Shadow Isle colors) which can manifest demonic arms. Hear me out, my reasoning is below (not 100% certain obviously but more than reasonably):
A few notes about The Maker (and origin theory):
1) She has three sets of arms. 2 human arms with claw tipped hands, 4 mechanical with rounded tipped human hands, and 12 purple demonic arms with claw tipped hands. The demon arms are manifested from the green glow coming from under that pseudo-carapace she wears. The green glow and demonic arms smacks of the Shadow Isles to me. The claw tips looks like spider leg design in LoR. These demonic(?) arms have to be shadow isle based by the same blue-green glow behind her. Multi armed like spider appearance especially with the multi-eyes.
*The only other things in League legends that I can tell that have those types of arms are the Kinkou's Keeper of Masks and the demonic Riven in the Portal on Bard's card art (I have no idea who demon Riven but I want to know).
2) The Owl's eyes are the exact same design as Master Yi's goggles and Mecha-Jax's faceplate. I would say normal Jax but it only has 6. However, the design looks like a 7th lens(?) is hidden under a mouth piece. However, multi eye designed helmets are in her card art. One that has 3 eyes and another that is flat brimmed with 5 eyes. There is also another 5 eyed card in Dragon Ambush. Either way, very much like a spider even if Noxian spiders tend to have 4 eyes... weirdly. She herself has 5 eyes (4 on right eye and 1 normal human eye).
3) She is spinning webs in both of her main and ability card art. Is it innuendo to plot intrigue or direct reference to spiders weaving webs.... yet again?
4) the throne she sits on and almost all background art of Maker shows some kind of twisted root design behind her. The only region that uses twisted root design prominently in their art work is Kinkou.
5) the green glowing potions look like they contain the juice from the Shadow Isle card Undergrowth which says "Even in the Shadow Isles, old growth finds new purpose". Innuendo? Who is this card connected to? Is that quote a reference to The Maker?
- I am 100% certain she is Kinkou, either Human or like a Keeper of Masks.
- Way too damn many spider reference.
- Who card is Haunted Tomb a reference for?
4:56 that's not just a Noxian building. It's a Noxtorra. Noxians build it on lands they conquer as a landmark. It sometimes serve as toll gates.
The Stagehand was on a suicide-mission. I dont think the bullet reference is for whats happening at that moment but when the invasion happened. Jhin coerced her into killing herself as an AcT oF bEaUtY or whatever his kink suggested.
Fun fact : the maker is called the investor in French, giving more of a sense she is following jhin's troupe of artists
After seeing Hwei's video I need to understand more about Jhin's lore, awesome video man
On the art for Gruesome Theater, I think one of the flaps next to Lord Broadmane kinda looks like the Subjugator's hair, so maybe the figure on the right is actually her.
I'd really like a more sinister and quiet support character. Someone who deviously controls the happenings of a city's underworld without anyone knowing who they are or what they did till its to late to do anything about it. Probably based on zaun, the black rose, the crimson circle, the demons, the darkin, zeds shadow order or some kind of baccai.
Or tbh any class of champion belonging to those factions.
Uhhhhh… renata?
i really love the maker's design, she is old and frail yet kinda...graceful? idk she looks amazing anyways
I think she is some sort of spider Vastaya. She weaves her threads into Jhin's gun.
@@zeppelincraft1443 the spider looks more like a disign thing, what it looks like is she is just a normal human that is brilliant of Ionian weapon craft (which likely revolve around mechanicallsing Ionian magic) and then just make herself a set of animated arms to assist her crafting
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Maybe its design is meant to be like a Buddihist deity with a lot of arms. The depth of this design interests me.
I mean, why does she even do this? And why does she work with Jhin.
Now I want for Maker to meet Ornn for no particular reason. Just 2 craftsman having a talk, talking about crafting or something.
These lore connections are pretty insane. It expands so much dude
I dont care about how much you talked about jhin already. He and his lore are my all time Favourite.
I still don't see why that Galio lore makes Necrit so upset. I mean, it's true that was said that Durand never told his secret, but as it has always happened in our world someone started to study Galio and discovered a way to create something similar, but never understood how to put into the stone emotion like Durand did with Galio. They are imperfect copy of the perfect one, I really don't see where is the problem lorewise.
There is a massive underlying secret with Galio, something Swain mentioned. He is one kind. Also Damacia is afraid of any thing Magical it just doesn't fit at all.
It breaks established lore not expands on it.
I think its mainly a lack of when these cards exist. Like we can estimate a rough guess of when certain events portrayed by cards took place but Galio's is just kinda hard to tell. We barely have any info on whats happening with the mage rebellion going forward to begin with so having a bunch of other petricite beings suddenly become canon makes the whole mage rebellion confusing because they never implied their existence, so if such things had existed why did they never use them against mages or why they never activated during the mage rebellion.
@@freshlymemed5680 I agree with the fact that we lack of a time line about all this lore, but on the other hand we can be sure that they are the first to ricreate something similar to Galio since the oldest stonecreation was build buy the oldest human artisan. I have taken this information from card interaction. So, I belive, that this artisan are making those in this time and that, maybe, this could be commissioned by Demacia government to have a new weapon against magic or something like that.
@@Flimmertje I disagree on "breaking established lore". I agree on saying that it has created a bit of misunderstanding on the general demacia lore, but I see many possible way to confirm it without retconning something. I mean Demacian are scared by magic, so something that protect them from it could be seen as something useful. It could be some sort of "secret project" to have an army of stone warrior immune to magic.
@@morion2645 yes! My guess is that galios cards are happening right now, maybe after the fight with the mages at the warriors cinematic, or just before
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Jhin's level up animation was from the prospective of the stagehand. that fourth shot being the final, surprise betrayal
ooohhhhh, so that's why the stage hand is ephemereal! when the deed is done, she has done her duty.
Watching this video i just heard a sound of "Quadra Kill!!"
Annie's worldwalker cards are completely new lore that was only connected to her most recent story. Prior to that there were no hints of Annie being connected to the Black Rose or Mordekaiser, so it is unfair to say the worldwalker cards are objectively better than Galio's for example, because similarly all that is missing from Galio's cards is a connecting story.
I love how Jhin introduce so many powerful ionia weapons
Next champ is called Nilah. Her artwork was leaked yesterday
I would assume the girl in the art of jhin's card is not The Maker herself but a mere ''speaker'' for her. Notice the necklace she has like a living thing ? I would assume it is allowing The Maker to talk from the girl. And owls are her to see what is going on around. What do you think ?
Wasn't it confirmed in the comics that Master Kusho freed Jhin?
Well Jhin's lore did say it was a cabal that freed Jhin so it's safe to assume that Kusho was a part of that cabal as well
It really sucks. Basically Kusho was working for this Ionian faction all the way long by maintaining a facade that he is the guardian of order.
Zed found this out and killed Kusho then prevented Shen from learning the truth because he would definitely quit his job if he heard about the horrible details.
He also told Shen he DID kill his father without lying. For Shen his father was a role model. It's better for him believe it that way.
@@zeppelincraft1443 i this a theory or confirmed because if it is confirmed god damn that's good and i have to read where its from
@@zeppelincraft1443 Bootin' this up cuz I wanna know if this is confirmed or theory as well.
@@tonysmith9905 Read the Comic about Shen and Zed. It is revealed there. It also mentions the hunt after the Golden Demon, aka Jhin.
I’m pretty sure the new champ is an octopus. First the slime on the wall can be explained by octopus slime octopus are also known to eat oysters hence why she was in the oyster shack. The champ leaks have said that the champs q is whip like which might just be the tentacles being used like a whip. Along with the fact that tf and graves had said the new champ had a lot of arms. Tf saying that the champ has clothes he has never seen before could be the color changing abilities of octopus. So im almost certain the new champ is an octopus.
Fun fact:
Necrit releases a video at 12 am midnight in my timezone
Really like this kind of video! Really nice when there is pictures of the lore itself to look at while you read the story. More please!
I disagree with the stage hand being the student. I believe jhin is the student considering it mentions he seemed to excel in all subjects, smithing included while in prison. I mean the connections are all there, the maker is a prodigy genius/artist that specializes in artistic weapons and machinations of destruction from what we have seen and its been alluded to that she's on the more brutal and merciless end of the spectrum eg she willingly let loose a mass murder just to get her artifacts back. She's the perfect fit as a possible mentor to jhin who wouldn't mind his murderous quirks if not help indulge them. It would explain jhins odd collection of traits and characteristics, He was an unknown ingenious murderer with an obsession with art that gets sprung from jail by a mysterious benefactor gets outfitted in a literal fortune of gear with a steady supply of EXPENSIVE ammunition being funneled to him wherever he goes then proceeds to follow her hit list without seeming like he intends to turn on her all while being allowed to do his own thing on the side unhindered with said fortune of gear and ammunition. That's a lot of money, effort, and time to put into someone your not certain will live up to your expectations and wont betray you especially if that someone is an unknown infamous murdering psycho. Just seems unlikely that she would put all that into someone she wasn't certain would pay off and if he had been her student it would be the stars aligning in showing us how jhin came to be JHIN.
Hm, could we expect to see Jhin in Arcane at some point?
I played Garen path of champs today first chapter, and some people said his relationship with Kat got retconned, but it's not! Garen is still deeply in love with Kata, but there's some kind of reason that she can't be with him...
I feel like it's inevitabily gonna happen but league lore is just so slow, it's not gonna happen for another 5 years.
"Removes his depth perception" Ah yes, Jhin clearly knows that 2d>3d, a true man of culture.
If jhin gets featured in arcane i will flip my shit
The character that is behind jhin first art that is hiding its looks is not the maker, its confirmed by one of the devs
You messed up order. You are supposed to start with an overture, then go into acts 1, 2 etc. and end with a finale.
Oh darling, traditional narrative order is SO passé. To begin the story in media res is to place the audience at the beating heart of the drama. It is so tellingly ironic that, although the beginning and end receive the most attention, they are without a doubt the least important parts of a story. The true beauty of a tragedy... is in its making.
Wait holy shit the Master and Pupil situation is Jhin and Hwei. It wasn't the Maker and Jhin.
I thought master kusho freed jhin after kusho went crazy.
"LoR Lore"... Knew this would occur eventually
Lore inside LoR oddly satisfying I'd say
ngl i feel like the maker and jhin work on similar wavelengths.
both are artistic minds not afraid to bring death upon others
One could also say "The Jhinvestor"
I think the subjugator’s hair is there. It flows into the Minotaur’s beard
8:00 I must disagree. Her very agressive stat-line, the bomb she is carrying and the fact she is ephemereal too + dialogue between her and Jhin on the path of champions suggest she agreed to repent through suicide bombing, which is even darker tbh. I suggest reading the dialogue in Path of champions for more info.
The Maker looks like she's from Ixtal, with her green silk-like strings that make up her golden shawl and magical arms. She may be a red herring, or she may be a traveler, being a mage from Ixtal traveling to Ionia to free the infamous mass murderer and then later for some reason moving to Bilgewater as her pet(Jhin) has made his way to P&Z.
I hope they add the maker to tft ,that would be sick
The next champ has already been leaked to be Nilah, she's from Bilgewater and she uses water as a weapon most notably using it as a whip. Riot had also already met with the leaker to ask him/her what else he/she knows and how they can both go about doing their respective "businesses". But in all honesty, The Maker would be an amazing future champion akin to having a passive like Ornns, she can make her weapons in lane, shed be really dope. A benefactor just like Renata Glasc, but with more oomph.
The breathing and depth perception thing should help with shooting accuracy
can i just note that jhin in the comic had a normal arm even untill zed and shen and akali captured him but his splash and the new cinematic he has a robot looking arm? also the lady has many of them that look exactly like it.
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Im sure the lady on the back of jhin in his card is THE STAGE HAND, white top red puffy sleeves, brown short hair and some neck cloth..
The subjugator isnt bald her hair is mashed together with the minotaurs left shoulder
Is it possible that Jhin is kind of a double agent? An instrument for Ionian's distabilizatiion at first and then a tool to overthrow Noxian's invasion or occupation? An ironic tale of a puppetmaster being manipulated by multiple benefactors? What do you think?
Ah man, this would have been a better champion.
5:07 looks like the "gooey" marks the new "melee adc" Riot's been teasing leaves behind.
New Champion lore?
You would want to hear the interaction in game dude
1:42 "morbib fascination" Jhin watched Morbius ❗❗
we need her as a champ😍
I was LITERALLY thinking about this earlier today, omg.
im pretty sure they revealed that shen's dad released jhin in one of the zed comics
I feel the flowers on grayback give me a zyra feels
Still waiting for Bard's cards
Oyster Bill's Oyster Shack is the new champion
You always explain the lore so well, plus I'm to lazy to read it XD
I think the cards stories represent jhin geting back the aetifacts. All the descriptions are of jhin murdering and retrieving the kashuri stuff.
jhin inspires me so much idk why I just want to be like him (apart from the killing part)
Couldnt the lady with many arms and a laughing jar be Illaoi? The many “arms” could be her tentacles and the jar “laughing” could be her idol with its open mouth
This is more convincing!
But how would that work? Illaoi is an existing Champion, the laughing jar arm lady is a new champion
Im so confused. Didint the zed comic say that it was Kusho who released jhin?
It's simple, they are a same council, they freed Jhin together
I want to see Jhin nuke plitover and zaun is 3rd season of Arcane
You say he has both eyes, but in the PvE someone mentions taking his other eye..
Of course, to outsiders it *looks* Like he only has one
I only wonder if they'll change his region if they ever tell more of his backstory. I don't think we need it but its interesting that he is the one of, if not the only, champion with no designated region
I mean above an oyster shack in bilgewater is the last place you would expect an ionian weapons crafter to be. Especially if they released a master killer they don't want people finding out is connected to them.
Really would be blue balling people that want a bilgwater champion though.
Poor stagehand...
They tried redeem themselves for their sins only to meet their end by the "Master"
I’m pretty sure they knew they were a suicide bomber, it’s what her dialogue implies (plus being ephemeral)
Necrit, the LoR content is incredible
I just noticed this fact today.
In LoR's Jhin has purple eye
But in the original has Brown eye.
Why Riot changed so much.
Look at the Mind of Virtuoso and LoR jhin reveal or trailer
this video end on 14 mins and 49 secs almost perfection
I think the priestess in The Stagehand card suicided or she LET/BEG jhin to kill her. These are the events where one can contemplate if she died due to sorrow or bullet. Dying in sorrow is different from dying because of sorrow.
The character behind Jhin isn't The Maker, is The Witness
1:40 I knew Jhin is part of the Morbius cult
would that mean that potentially master yi's ocular was also made by the maker? i mean the design is simmilar and we got no conformation that Doran actually made the helmet just that he gave it to yi.
Small thing necrit the in jhins background art and the art of lord boardmane i believe that woman is known as the witness
and has her own card
You dare deny the Water Tribe!!!
I was wondering about that too
Lmao I love when yt doesn't notify me when I'm on notif squad. Good thing I opened Yt when I did
My favourite champ, luv you Khada Jhin
Oh how awful. Did he at least die painlessly?
To shreds you say, tsk tsk tsk.
i think the graves story was refering to the maker instead of a new champ