I have an EVO X MR touring, basically the same as this car but without the navigation and I have to say I absolutely love it. The look, the power, the handling, it's all incredible. After driving this car, you'll never want to drive anything else. The EVO X is truly a work of art.
Yes, yes you can. Navigation package is separate from the sight and sound package which is the one that comes with the 710 watt Rockford Fosgate system.
How many miles does your car have? How is the realizability? I'm thinking about getting one for my wife . I just hate that the back seats don't come down.
Well, i actually got rid of my MR to get a GSR, which is the manual EVO X. My MR had about 50,000 on it, my new one isn't over 40,000 yet, it's a 2011. Yeah the reason the back seats don't come down is because the battery and windshield wiper fluid are in the trunk.
Hi guys, I live in new york and I owned a 07 bmw 328i until 3 weeks ago when I traded it in for a 2012 Mitsubishi evolution gsr. I had a lot of reliability problems with the bimmer and for 3 years straight I had problems getting around in the snow. I love the evo. Really! I love this car. People look at it when I drive and give me a thumbs up. When im parked it have people walk up to check it out. The car is a legend and we should treat its bloodline with respect. Dont knock a car until you drive one especially this evo X. Its not the fastest but over all its the most capable. When you are stuck in the snow in your expensive European cars, or sexy American v8s, I will be getting to work or returning home with a smile on my face. I also own a fully modified honda civic and the evo is great to have.
Watched this video for 2 years on and off in love with the blue Evo. After a year of searching I purchased the exact car. 2011 MR Touring, octane blue. Thanks guys for the great review and the motivation.
We hope you noticed that the WRX we had was only a few thousand less than the Golf R, and the Evo MR can be found for 5-7k less than the model in this review. Many times the Press cars available tie our hands in regards to "as Tested" price. But in the end, the less expensive WRX came in ahead of the R, and Paul even picked it ahead of the Evo! We expect that will be helpful to many people. But you are welcome to disagree.
You don't need a sun roof, nor navigation, or rear cámara... But your wife does. That's why this car is perfect for me. I love the car. I don't need all that, but all those extra things make the difference when you are married with children. The woman likes the sun, the loud music. The space for 3 children... This car is perfect for the married man that needs performance, out of a family car.
i have owned an STi i have had a Golf R , ive driven alot of nice fast cars ..... but everytime i drive my evo x Mr the smile it gives me the car is just so good , it just feels so right
We originally tested the GSR version of the Evo X. It's available on our channel and linked at the end of this piece as well. We hope you'll watch that one as well. Thanks!
Something to consider now since the car hasn't been built for 4 years. In North America, there was never more than 900 Evo X MR's released. Over 8 years, there was only just over 3000 shipped to North America. Some years 500, 2014 had 808 shipped. This puts every years of the X MR in the rare category which makes the car that much more desireable. People are still talking about, new videos are released every day about it. That says alot about the impact the Evo still has.
We had 2 Mrs. Sold them for personal reasons and regret it big time!! Now we have 1 and 1 being shipped to us as I type this lol. Old: wicked white and phantom black New: octane blue pearl and rally red
You're right, VW aimed it at the bigger boys because of price - but they can't have everything. In many ways you are supporting our premise here... How can this be rigged in the Golf R's favor when it came in LAST against both its intended targets and those beneath it (the Standard WRX)? We hope you watched the entire piece and the conclusions... Meanwhile, over at the Golf R comments people are accusing us of scaring folks away from the Golf R! Either way, thanks for your thoughts.
I got my mr two weeks ago and im in love, im about to finish breaking it in. Also I got my mr for 39k with a sunroof, leather seats, all that except the navigation which I don't need
Chris Cav yes especially when driving on traffic, I used it as a daily driver. When I want to speed I switch the mode from normal, to sport or to super sport than I switch it so where I can control the gear shifting. It is so worth it breaks a lot of necks as well lol that doesn't hurt
eli hernandez breaks who's necks? That car is an ugly POS. The only thing it looks decent for is the suspension/performance/brakes/transmission everything else is elantra class.
How you liking it so far? I own a 2012 mustang gt (auto) and am looking to get this (auto) for my wife. Do you know what your 1/4 mile times are by any chance? How is the reliability? How many miles does your car have?
We're glad you're a fan of what we do. It's clear you don't like the Evo, and we respect that. The guys do agree with you that this car is certainly not for everyone, and in spite of its performance it does require a lot of maintenance costs. We greatly appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and we're glad to have you as a viewer! Please share our show with others. Thanks again!
This review is what prompted me to buy my EvoXMR Touring Edition and I happily pay ever month for it. So thanks guys for giving me that push to Just do it. And who knows... maybe this Nissan alliance will give the Evo that sense of Urgency to return to the streets.
Please see the stat sheet. The STI would wipe the floor with the EVO MR and Golf R...and the WRX would be one of two worthy competitors in the second category you've made.
I agree with not needing a NAV screen. My phone is my navigation and it always has been. There is no need to spend a bunch of money on navigation when the thing I carry around in my pocket everywhere I go does a better job anyway.
I don't understand why no one can get over the evo interior. Everyone knows its cheap but I don't care how full of plastic it is as long as you can still run circles around all the subaru fanboys.
I am with these guys. How on earth with a vehicle such as this does mitsubishi produce what is the probably the worst line up on cars on the planet? Not any one of their other cars is even worth looking at for purchase. Every other car manufacturer produces something much better than any thing else mitsubishi produces, while all so costing so much less. And now that they have decided to can the evo, we can probably say good bye to mitsubishi here in the states. It sucks too, because I have such a soft spot in me for mitsubishi with their older cars. Like the galant vr4, and 3000gt. Those are such exciting cars, and would be a joy to own. And the evo has all ways been a dream car of mine...
Wait a minute, you have a soft spot for the Galant? Why? What am I missing here. I didn't know there was anything special about the Galant? Why is Mitsuibishi seemingly not even trying to produce a winning product? Strange
to make sales, these are road cars after all performance cars are just expensive and annoying to own, you really have to be a hoon to own one which most people are not. cheap affordable cars make a lot of money
I bought a 2014 Mirage back in May. It's definitely got a TON of potential for a sleeper, since it weighs under 2000 lbs and has a very low drag coefficient, so a little extra power can go a MUCH longer way. But holy hell, that suspension needs stiffening!
MrGovenator1 I couldn't agree more brotha..... Mitsubishi is making junk anymore....I have loved Mitsubishi since I was a teenager, my parents helped me get a loan on a brand new 98 eclipse gst
LOL... I am glad that you guys post a polite reply. Unlike MotorTrend, they banned me when I complained about their female (blond) have no idea about cars and shouldn't host car reviews again!
You're right. Should have said 'in my opinion', that's what I meant anyway. The GTR is still a fascinating piece of engineering and design, but the front just feels wrong. If they had kept the same breeding as the R33 and R34, with horizontal headlights, the R35 would have been perfect IMHO.
Exactly. I just bought a base 2014 GSR. I came from a mkv r32. While I did lose some features in the interior of my evo compared to the R32. Once you drive the Evo you don't really give a fuck about interior features. Its all about the driving experience. if People want a nice Luxurious Interior then don't buy an Evo. Its that simple
We're thrilled you like what we do, thank you! Any high-performance car will require a good amount of maintenance. Evo and STI are both pretty high-strung with owners on both sides debating reliability. But, the Evo is known to require regular service, goes through tires quickly, and can be expensive to insure. Owners putting lots of track time on their Evos can put a few grand a year into the car to keep it in top shape. So usage is a factor. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Lol you can find a new evo mr for under 40k.. can they name a 4 door performance car with a Dual clutch that can do a 4.5 to 60? With a crazy smart AWD system that makes it great on tracks ? Brembo breaks and recaro seats? And that has a huge after market following ? They do much research about 53 we cars.. to much face value generalizations.
Great review. But ultimately, most VW fanboys will cry about it the best way they know how. By comparing interior materials & reminding us why their soft-touch dashboards make the Golf R superior to everything out there.
Mitsubishi would sell more cars if they brought back the turbo v6 eclipse with a awd or rwd setup, instead of just canceling it or designing a new version of the 3000gt.
We encourage you to watch the opening explanation... or the closing one, for that matter. As stated many times, this is not about the Evo vs. STI, but about finding where the Golf R fits.
I never get tired of watching these guys. They don't deviate too far from the other car review channels in terms of their comments, but the video editing that shows back and forth comments between the two reviewers in the same car is innovative. I find it more entertaining to listen to what sounds like a conversation than a monologue.
What people don't realize is the EVO is expensive because of the equipments it has. Sure it looks like a eco box car, but it's got dual clutch gearbox and active yaw control for both axles and active center diff. No other car in it's class has either of them but adjustable center diff and it's not even as high tech as evo's center diff.
I may be alone in this but I like my Evo's interior. The 2013+ model years received amaterials upgrade. It's not alcantara, but it's no longer hard plastics everywhere.
Motortrend didn't like the Evo X at their best driver's car competition. They said it felt like the centre of gravity is too high and that sometimes the tail would come out without any warning.
+Kern O'Leary The R puts down identical performance numbers to the new STI and has a far better quality to the interior. I don't know what tuned STI's and Evo X's run but the R with a tune will run low 12's in the 1/4 mile. Seems one of the main differences that the R has going for it vs the other's in the list is the understated looks. Nothing flashy about it, no wing or anything like that. It's very unassuming.
We aren't debating your listing of prices or grouping of cars. However, as explained in the opening... VW themselves says the Golf R competes with the STI and Evo, but the cars capabilities clearly put it in the realm of the WRX and Ralliart. So, we brought a car from each of those groups to discuss if VW's placement was correct. We're sorry that you missed the explanation in the video.
I enjoyed your review very much. Just wanted to point out, that the evo does not and can not actively distribute power to any of the 4 wheels. The front is a standard helical LSD. The center differential is always a 50-50 power split, just with varrying clamping force. The rear yaw control is the only active differential which can control how much power it sends to either rear wheel. The settings in the car also only control how the center differential reacts. But so true the addiction though!
I'm at a loss idk if I should get the GSR or MR. I'm leaning a little toward the MR more since people say it's better in traffic. But idk, I'm definitely getting an evo though before I lose my chance at getting one since it's their last year of production. any suggestions?
If you are planning on upgrading and not breaking the bank (as much) then get the GSR. The MR is great for stop and go but the tranny can only handle so much power before you have to upgrade the internals. I have a 2015 MR and love it. No Recaros though...
I'd go WRX best for the money. EVO X MR for suspension stiffness, handling, transmission and overall sophistication. And the Volkswagen, for, well.. nothing. I do like the Jetta for the money, best handling FWD car I've driven (rent a car). And the Jetta Hybrid kicks the Prius's ass. How did I go from talking about an EVO to a Prius?
Um? I don't understand. Beginning of the video, you stated that "it's low maintenance cost girlfriend." Toward the end, you said it's high maintenance cost... uh.......
The Low-Maintenance girlfriend comment is part of the opening where we're reviewing some of the things said about the WRX. At the end, we're discussing the maintenance of the EVO X. We hope that clarifies and thanks for Watching.
My Evo X MR, it s like a high maintenance girlfriend that whisper to your ear, while you re already corner like mad man, and tesaid: "go faster sweety...a lot faster"....arrgggg I love my Evo X :)
I was thinking the entire time "The WRX is being compared to high model cars like EVO and GTi and the WRX isnt even the fastest Subaru." Goes to show Subies kick ass!
We hope you noticed that Todd said he didn't need those things "on an EVO". He finds the upper package on the Evo (which adds about $5k - the sunroof etc.) brings unneeded extras to a car of this type. And any smartphone can take the place of most nav systems. The guys focus on the driving fun of a car, but we do connect our phones and try out the extras in everything we review. We appreciate your comment and hope you'll watch more of what we do.
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Any car can be altered by aftermarket tuning, but it makes comparisons nearly impossible as the variables are always changing - so we review cars the way the Manufacturers offer them. We applaud you for driving all those cars yourself in your buying process. Ultimately, we want people to go out and form opinions about these cars from first hand experience. Bravo, and congrats on your Golf R. Thanks a lot for watching and sharing your thoughts!
We're glad you liked these reviews and appreciate the compliments. However, we're confused by your question - if you watched the piece you heard our explanation for why we paired these three cars together. The explanation is at the beginning of all 3 videos and discussed again at the end of this piece. As explained... This pairing was not to compare the Evo and WRX (they aren't competitors), but to place the Golf R in the marketplace. Thanks for watching and liking what we do!
I have watched your reviews with Evos in them way too many times. Great reviews. I love your premise on this series, finding the place for the GTR. All nice cars, but i'm a Mitsu guy. I bought a 2013 Evo GSR in Wicked White a month ago. It's the best thing I've ever bought. Big thanks to the guys for all their work. I must agree with Todd about the Evo.....they are incredible.
Great review guys. I've driven all three, owned previous versions of the Evo (IX) and Golf, and I still picked the WRX. Dark grey in sedan form. I got tired of the constant maintenance every two weeks on the Evo, and tires ate up money I could have used on aftermarket parts. The Golf (R32 and GTI) were very refined and I'd recommend them to anyone looking for a great car. I just wanted the WRX, knowing I could get to work every day, and capable of finding trouble if I wanted to.
Are u serious man lol? That Evo and Impresa its not the best of there rank, dont even try to compare a golf to those Legend cars, if u want a Evo or Impresa i can talk u about some... golf is a day to day car MOSTLY, and Evo and Impresa, are for that to and if u want u can do rally or go simply to circuits doing some curves like a boss... and they have awesome acceleration, and their speed is limited dont forget, and still they can hit 270km or more. They have their names written in history, cant say the same about golf. Now u sure like golfs u must be a fan for talking like that and i dont blame u.
Paulo Barbosa bro an evo is my dream car.... im just not lying to myself. an evo hasnt won a world rally event since 1999 with the evo 6 . you asked what its doing here .... i was answering you initial question. i think the question to you is how are these cars NOT comparable? i dont need to go and list the things in the video and NO im not saying a golf r is as good as an evo. its just a rediculous comment "what is that little vw doing here" when it has more power than any evo ever
You're absolutely right, the EVO and STI are natural competitors. The explanation for this match-up is in the video description, in the opening of the video, and in the closing discussion... as well as many times here in the comments. Thanks for watching.
I'm watching this 10 years too late. Like you said, none of us cared about anything else Mitsubishi made, the problem is nobody else cared, either, let alone caring about the evo. I LOVE my wrx but am not ashamed to admit that if they didn't cost twice as much I'd probably have an evo
The first time I watch any everyday driver video. I always thought you guys were trying too hard to make your videos a hit. But after watch a few more videos, I realize y'all make sense. The videos you shoot are thought out and straight-forward. Thanks (good show)
You are correct that the Evo and WRX are not natural competitors. We hope you listened to the explanation at the beginning of the video which explains why we brought the WRX and the EVO to this comparison.
We realize that there are other versions (or even tuned versions) of the Golf R which could alter the discussion here. But we focus on the stock versions available to US consumers - that's the way the manufacturers choose to sell the cars to the public, so we stick to those versions as the best "base line" possible. We'd love to have the best version of every car available in the US, but we do with what we have. Thanks for watching and commenting!
In 2010 Mitsubishi released a small number of Evo X SEs (340 to be a act). It’s the car you guys were looking for. All of the go fast bits for the MR (SST transmission, Bilstein dampers, Eibach springs, aluminum roof) with none of the frills: no leather, no sun roof, no nav system/hard drive). It sold for about $36K - much cheaper than an MR. They were released to the dealers a couple of months before the 2011models, so by early 2011, the dealers would let them go fairly cheap. They are still out there. Extremely rare and under appreciated.
This testing group has worked for many people as a way to place R in the world. Obviously, we know it isn't going to work for everyone, but it hardly negates the discussion - especially since we explain our reasons and discuss the STI at the end. Having said that - You are more than welcome to make your own car show and "Do it Right". We will watch it and applaud you.
We hope you noticed that this is the 3rd of a 3 part comparison... Each of the other two cars have an entire video dedicated to them. This part 3 just covers the Evo and the wrapups. Every car we review gets a video of about 7 minutes, so combined, this three-parter is pretty equally weighted between the three cars. We hope you'll watch them all and lots more of our work. Thanks for your thoughts!
We hope you'll watch more of our work to notice that we're concerned about much more than just the power of a car. Live-ability and gadgets certainly matter, but if there are plenty of gadget and option filled cars that are terrible to drive. As you can see in our work, we focus on each car's feel on a great driving road, not on a track. Thanks for taking the time to watch and sharing your thoughts!
I NEED an Evo, too! I hope the next gen is just as fun. And Mitsubishi : please inject some driving fun in more of your models! Great comparo, guys...love the channel!
We know this isn't an obvious match-up, and so we've tried to explain it further to those, like yourself, who've asked about this grouping. Some people have really appreciated the cross-segment discussion based on the Golf Rs price and performance. Others have hated it. We welcome either and happy to discuss. We hope you'll stick around and tell us how we screw up the next time. Thanks for watching.
First let me say I am a bit biased because I own and drive an 04 R32. That said I think the V-dub got a raw deal in this review. The whole premise is supposed to be about which one of these cars would make the best every day driver. My cousin owns an '11 WRX, and I have driven the EVO, I haven't driven the golf R so I can only go off what I know about my own car, but as an everyday driver I think the V-dub is the best choice. Think about it, they are out here carving up some back canyon roads, and yeah I guess if thats what every day driving was like I'd probably want an EVO too, or the WRX even, but thats nothing what every day driving is. For most of us every day driving is about getting around town, running errands, going to work, and maybe hitting up some backroads here and there on the way home. If thats what I'm going to be doing most of the time, I want a car that is super comfy to drive, has nice creature comforts and a good radio (VW) and still fun and spirited. I will gladly give up a little performance to have the MUCH MUCH nicer interior, good ride, and creature comforts (OMG being from the midwest I love the heated seats) and still have a fun and spirited car to drive. Personally, I love blending into traffic and not have the stigma of having the lookit me fast n furious WRX/STI/EVO bro look. The people who I want to notice me, do, and to most of the people I don't want to notice me I'm just another golf on the road. I just feel its a much more practical car and its a lot nicer to live with. I guess thats why I personally chose an R over a subie or mitsubishi.
Thanks for the review. I'm looking at the EVO now. Just used though. As was said, it is just too expensive at $45k. Hope to knock it down to 28ish used.
We hope you noticed that this group of cars was explained at the beginning of the video, and again in the wrap-up. This comparison is more about finding the Golf's place in the world, not being another Evo vs STI matchup. The STI is even mentioned in this piece, and the Evo is discussed as being available for far less than the version in the review - so the points you bring up are in here also. We're sorry this didn't work for you, but others have enjoyed it - thanks for watching!
It's a pretty big assumption to think we don't read or watch the work of others. We have no interest in copying anyone else, but we don't live in isolation. We respect that you didn't like this comparison. There are those that agree with you, and others who did enjoy the discussion - We know that will always be the case. We hope you'll stick around and enjoy our work. Or, conversely, stick around and tell us the things you don't like next time. We welcome the discussion.
That's the sad thing about Volkswagen and most of its group. Car reviewers always claim how "durable" the fit and finish is, and while it is true initially it all falls apart so quickly. Having owned an Audi A4, and gone through the large list of problems it had, I no longer have respect for VW. What's the point of car ownership if it causes headaches 50% of the time?
I can't believe the EVO doesn't have a fully adjustable steering wheel. That's nearly a deal breaker for me. Other than that. If I drove it and loved it as much as they did, I'd just look at it as a poor mans GTR or Carrera 4S and pay the $45k. Those two cars are over twice as expensive.
Picked up my 2013 Evo GSR in white two weeks ago. Ten grand less than your blue one. Love it. It's the single most awesome piece of matter I've ever owned. You are correct, you just have to drive them to understand. It's a surprisingly good daily driver, too.
In addition to the Part 3 in the video title and on the title screen, we also have "LAST TIME" across the bottom of the screen and links to the prior versions running through the first 30 seconds of the piece. We're sorry that you didn't notice the lead in, but appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Fantastic review and video once again fellas! I own an 08' graphite gray (I think that is the paint name) Evo X, daily it everywhere and - LOVE IT. Gonna miss the High Octane Blue color, it isn't an option for the 2013 models.
I think they chose the WRX because the stats of the VW match better with the WRX than it des with the STI, and they used the EVO to prove that VW's claim of it being a competitor with the EVO and STI isn't very valid
I have an EVO X MR touring, basically the same as this car but without the navigation and I have to say I absolutely love it. The look, the power, the handling, it's all incredible. After driving this car, you'll never want to drive anything else. The EVO X is truly a work of art.
Niko Bellic i didnt know you could get an mr without gps
Yes, yes you can. Navigation package is separate from the sight and sound package which is the one that comes with the 710 watt Rockford Fosgate system.
You have a Kuruma?
How many miles does your car have? How is the realizability? I'm thinking about getting one for my wife . I just hate that the back seats don't come down.
Well, i actually got rid of my MR to get a GSR, which is the manual EVO X. My MR had about 50,000 on it, my new one isn't over 40,000 yet, it's a 2011. Yeah the reason the back seats don't come down is because the battery and windshield wiper fluid are in the trunk.
Hi guys, I live in new york and I owned a 07 bmw 328i until 3 weeks ago when I traded it in for a 2012 Mitsubishi evolution gsr. I had a lot of reliability problems with the bimmer and for 3 years straight I had problems getting around in the snow. I love the evo. Really! I love this car. People look at it when I drive and give me a thumbs up. When im parked it have people walk up to check it out. The car is a legend and we should treat its bloodline with respect. Dont knock a car until you drive one especially this evo X. Its not the fastest but over all its the most capable. When you are stuck in the snow in your expensive European cars, or sexy American v8s, I will be getting to work or returning home with a smile on my face. I also own a fully modified honda civic and the evo is great to have.
Watched this video for 2 years on and off in love with the blue Evo. After a year of searching I purchased the exact car. 2011 MR Touring, octane blue. Thanks guys for the great review and the motivation.
Very glad you enjoyed this film so much - and congrats on getting a car you love!
greenfire919 hey, do you still have your evo x mr?
We hope you noticed that the WRX we had was only a few thousand less than the Golf R, and the Evo MR can be found for 5-7k less than the model in this review. Many times the Press cars available tie our hands in regards to "as Tested" price. But in the end, the less expensive WRX came in ahead of the R, and Paul even picked it ahead of the Evo! We expect that will be helpful to many people. But you are welcome to disagree.
The EVO has broken the heart of many a BMW, AUDI and Porsche owner.
haha ikr shows how overpriced all the others are. you don't need to spend 80 or 100 grand
Not really
We hope you noticed that the WRX was given a very high rating and was Paul's first choice of the 3 because if how much car if offers for the money...
You don't need a sun roof, nor navigation, or rear cámara... But your wife does. That's why this car is perfect for me. I love the car. I don't need all that, but all those extra things make the difference when you are married with children. The woman likes the sun, the loud music. The space for 3 children... This car is perfect for the married man that needs performance, out of a family car.
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@Mathieu Morin fully stripped, gutted, driver seat only =D
@Dika Vinci sounds single.
Your giving me hope
i have owned an STi i have had a Golf R , ive driven alot of nice fast cars ..... but everytime i drive my evo x Mr the smile it gives me the car is just so good , it just feels so right
We originally tested the GSR version of the Evo X. It's available on our channel and linked at the end of this piece as well. We hope you'll watch that one as well. Thanks!
Something to consider now since the car hasn't been built for 4 years. In North America, there was never more than 900 Evo X MR's released. Over 8 years, there was only just over 3000 shipped to North America. Some years 500, 2014 had 808 shipped. This puts every years of the X MR in the rare category which makes the car that much more desireable. People are still talking about, new videos are released every day about it. That says alot about the impact the Evo still has.
Still the best EVO review on youtube.
You guys are so much better than those guys on Top Gear USA, you guys should have your own television show.
my favorite car in the world, breaks my heart i cant have it. i will own one one day
I was in the same place. I couldn't fathom not owning an Evo. I did something about it thougj, got an MR 5 months ago with 8k on it :)
We had 2 Mrs. Sold them for personal reasons and regret it big time!! Now we have 1 and 1 being shipped to us as I type this lol.
Old: wicked white and phantom black
New: octane blue pearl and rally red
You're right, VW aimed it at the bigger boys because of price - but they can't have everything. In many ways you are supporting our premise here...
How can this be rigged in the Golf R's favor when it came in LAST against both its intended targets and those beneath it (the Standard WRX)? We hope you watched the entire piece and the conclusions... Meanwhile, over at the Golf R comments people are accusing us of scaring folks away from the Golf R!
Either way, thanks for your thoughts.
I got my mr two weeks ago and im in love, im about to finish breaking it in.
Also I got my mr for 39k with a sunroof, leather seats, all that except the navigation which I don't need
eli hernandez Question for ya...you prefer it over the GSR with the 5-speed? Looking into one but the MR does come with a lot of goodies over the GSR.
Chris Cav yes especially when driving on traffic, I used it as a daily driver. When I want to speed I switch the mode from normal, to sport or to super sport than I switch it so where I can control the gear shifting. It is so worth it breaks a lot of necks as well lol that doesn't hurt
eli hernandez That's awesome, thanks for the reply!
eli hernandez breaks who's necks? That car is an ugly POS. The only thing it looks decent for is the suspension/performance/brakes/transmission everything else is elantra class.
How you liking it so far? I own a 2012 mustang gt (auto) and am looking to get this (auto) for my wife. Do you know what your 1/4 mile times are by any chance? How is the reliability? How many miles does your car have?
We're glad you're a fan of what we do. It's clear you don't like the Evo, and we respect that. The guys do agree with you that this car is certainly not for everyone, and in spite of its performance it does require a lot of maintenance costs. We greatly appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and we're glad to have you as a viewer! Please share our show with others. Thanks again!
This review is what prompted me to buy my EvoXMR Touring Edition and I happily pay ever month for it. So thanks guys for giving me that push to Just do it. And who knows... maybe this Nissan alliance will give the Evo that sense of Urgency to return to the streets.
same for me.
Please see the stat sheet.
The STI would wipe the floor with the EVO MR and Golf R...and the WRX would be one of two worthy competitors in the second category you've made.
Engine is very nice and smooth, that's evo x benchmark for Japanese cars
I agree with not needing a NAV screen. My phone is my navigation and it always has been.
There is no need to spend a bunch of money on navigation when the thing I carry around in my pocket everywhere I go does a better job anyway.
I don't understand why no one can get over the evo interior. Everyone knows its cheap but I don't care how full of plastic it is as long as you can still run circles around all the subaru fanboys.
I'm with you there my Evo final Edition gives the Subaru owners something to think about when they pull up against me!
Glad the dramatic music was short lived. Now for the car, it’s crazy to think what this car would cost new in 2023?
I am with these guys. How on earth with a vehicle such as this does mitsubishi produce what is the probably the worst line up on cars on the planet? Not any one of their other cars is even worth looking at for purchase. Every other car manufacturer produces something much better than any thing else mitsubishi produces, while all so costing so much less. And now that they have decided to can the evo, we can probably say good bye to mitsubishi here in the states. It sucks too, because I have such a soft spot in me for mitsubishi with their older cars. Like the galant vr4, and 3000gt. Those are such exciting cars, and would be a joy to own. And the evo has all ways been a dream car of mine...
Wait a minute, you have a soft spot for the Galant? Why? What am I missing here. I didn't know there was anything special about the Galant? Why is Mitsuibishi seemingly not even trying to produce a winning product? Strange
They made the Galant vr4. Go google it.
to make sales, these are road cars after all performance cars are just expensive and annoying to own, you really have to be a hoon to own one which most people are not.
cheap affordable cars make a lot of money
I bought a 2014 Mirage back in May. It's definitely got a TON of potential for a sleeper, since it weighs under 2000 lbs and has a very low drag coefficient, so a little extra power can go a MUCH longer way. But holy hell, that suspension needs stiffening!
MrGovenator1 I couldn't agree more brotha..... Mitsubishi is making junk anymore....I have loved Mitsubishi since I was a teenager, my parents helped me get a loan on a brand new 98 eclipse gst
LOL...
I am glad that you guys post a polite reply.
Unlike MotorTrend, they banned me when I complained about their female (blond) have no idea about cars and shouldn't host car reviews again!
I like the appearance and the brutal design of this car
You're right. Should have said 'in my opinion', that's what I meant anyway. The GTR is still a fascinating piece of engineering and design, but the front just feels wrong. If they had kept the same breeding as the R33 and R34, with horizontal headlights, the R35 would have been perfect IMHO.
Only two ways to get an Evo X:
GSR Base with Dealer (or Aftermarket) Installed HID's
or
MR Base
No need for leather or anything else that adds weight.
Exactly. I just bought a base 2014 GSR. I came from a mkv r32. While I did lose some features in the interior of my evo compared to the R32. Once you drive the Evo you don't really give a fuck about interior features. Its all about the driving experience. if People want a nice Luxurious Interior then don't buy an Evo. Its that simple
We're thrilled you like what we do, thank you! Any high-performance car will require a good amount of maintenance. Evo and STI are both pretty high-strung with owners on both sides debating reliability. But, the Evo is known to require regular service, goes through tires quickly, and can be expensive to insure. Owners putting lots of track time on their Evos can put a few grand a year into the car to keep it in top shape. So usage is a factor. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Lol you can find a new evo mr for under 40k.. can they name a 4 door performance car with a Dual clutch that can do a 4.5 to 60? With a crazy smart AWD system that makes it great on tracks ? Brembo breaks and recaro seats? And that has a huge after market following ? They do much research about 53 we cars.. to much face value generalizations.
Great review. But ultimately, most VW fanboys will cry about it the best way they know how. By comparing interior materials & reminding us why their soft-touch dashboards make the Golf R superior to everything out there.
Mitsubishi would sell more cars if they brought back the turbo v6 eclipse with a awd or rwd setup, instead of just canceling it or designing a new version of the 3000gt.
Mitsubishi had a turbo v6 car eclipse ?
shaochia vang
No they didn't. Someone is sadly mistaken about that....
that was am autocorrect from my phone, i meant i4.
the twin turbo V6 galant or GTO should return..
John Vu reerdektvvel
We encourage you to watch the opening explanation... or the closing one, for that matter. As stated many times, this is not about the Evo vs. STI, but about finding where the Golf R fits.
Mitsubishi's downfall to discontinuation. THE PRICE! 😥
I never get tired of watching these guys. They don't deviate too far from the other car review channels in terms of their comments, but the video editing that shows back and forth comments between the two reviewers in the same car is innovative. I find it more entertaining to listen to what sounds like a conversation than a monologue.
The evo x in australia cost like 55k, i wish it was 45 or 35 in australia
What people don't realize is the EVO is expensive because of the equipments it has. Sure it looks like a eco box car, but it's got dual clutch gearbox and active yaw control for both axles and active center diff. No other car in it's class has either of them but adjustable center diff and it's not even as high tech as evo's center diff.
"Its still one pissed off lizard" lol...
i know Im kinda off topic but do anybody know a good site to stream new tv shows online?
@Lawson Conner lately I have been using Flixzone. You can find it on google :)
I may be alone in this but I like my Evo's interior. The 2013+ model years received amaterials upgrade. It's not alcantara, but it's no longer hard plastics everywhere.
The evo is like Ronaldo on Portugal. One great star and trash everywhere else.
Motortrend didn't like the Evo X at their best driver's car competition. They said it felt like the centre of gravity is too high and that sometimes the tail would come out without any warning.
J : just
A: Awesome
P: Performance
I agree with Paul. For the money the WRX is the best choice. If money wasn't a factor the choice is obvious... EVO.
IMO, the new Golf R makes this video obsolete. Hell... the new Civic Type R and the upcoming Focus RS are going to really shake things up.
+FastRedPonyCar rs and civic yes maybe golf r i dont think so .
+Kern O'Leary The R puts down identical performance numbers to the new STI and has a far better quality to the interior. I don't know what tuned STI's and Evo X's run but the R with a tune will run low 12's in the 1/4 mile.
Seems one of the main differences that the R has going for it vs the other's in the list is the understated looks. Nothing flashy about it, no wing or anything like that. It's very unassuming.
FastRedPonyCar Go watch their video comparing the STI, Evo, Focus RS, and Golf R. You might be surprised which one they ranked last. 😉
We aren't debating your listing of prices or grouping of cars. However, as explained in the opening... VW themselves says the Golf R competes with the STI and Evo, but the cars capabilities clearly put it in the realm of the WRX and Ralliart. So, we brought a car from each of those groups to discuss if VW's placement was correct. We're sorry that you missed the explanation in the video.
Why are the rest of Mitsubishi cars so mind numbingly boring except the Evo? Good question.
Shem Mac hello, my name is eclipse!
Shem Mac hi guys, i m 3000gt!
Hello, Colt CZT here, how are you?
dont get any of them in Aus
I enjoyed your review very much. Just wanted to point out, that the evo does not and can not actively distribute power to any of the 4 wheels. The front is a standard helical LSD. The center differential is always a 50-50 power split, just with varrying clamping force. The rear yaw control is the only active differential which can control how much power it sends to either rear wheel. The settings in the car also only control how the center differential reacts. But so true the addiction though!
I'm at a loss idk if I should get the GSR or MR. I'm leaning a little toward the MR more since people say it's better in traffic. But idk, I'm definitely getting an evo though before I lose my chance at getting one since it's their last year of production. any suggestions?
If you are planning on upgrading and not breaking the bank (as much) then get the GSR. The MR is great for stop and go but the tranny can only handle so much power before you have to upgrade the internals. I have a 2015 MR and love it. No Recaros though...
+Cesar Diaz I'm going with the gsr, thanks.
+Legit995 grats. you'll love it. I love driving the X
Why are they going to stop making them?
Darek M It’s not an automatic. It’s a dual-clutch, sequential shifting, automated manual.
I always thought the EVO was on par with the STI until I saw this review... Now i see that the STI blows it out of the water for far less money!
more metaphors than an episode of family guy
and its only 10 minutes, lol
family guy has puns not metaphores
I'd go WRX best for the money. EVO X MR for suspension stiffness, handling, transmission and overall sophistication. And the Volkswagen, for, well.. nothing. I do like the Jetta for the money, best handling FWD car I've driven (rent a car). And the Jetta Hybrid kicks the Prius's ass. How did I go from talking about an EVO to a Prius?
Um? I don't understand. Beginning of the video, you stated that "it's low maintenance cost girlfriend." Toward the end, you said it's high maintenance cost... uh.......
The Low-Maintenance girlfriend comment is part of the opening where we're reviewing some of the things said about the WRX. At the end, we're discussing the maintenance of the EVO X. We hope that clarifies and thanks for Watching.
EverydayDriver gotcha!
delsol7878 He was talking about the WRX not the EVO
+Stonewall Jack geez.. i would rather keep my P987. >=]
My Evo X MR, it s like a high maintenance girlfriend that whisper to your ear, while you re already corner like mad man, and tesaid: "go faster sweety...a lot faster"....arrgggg
I love my Evo X :)
I was thinking the entire time "The WRX is being compared to high model cars like EVO and GTi and the WRX isnt even the fastest Subaru." Goes to show Subies kick ass!
" i wonna lick it" exactly my thoughts for EVO!!!!
We hope you noticed that Todd said he didn't need those things "on an EVO". He finds the upper package on the Evo (which adds about $5k - the sunroof etc.) brings unneeded extras to a car of this type. And any smartphone can take the place of most nav systems. The guys focus on the driving fun of a car, but we do connect our phones and try out the extras in everything we review. We appreciate your comment and hope you'll watch more of what we do.
Mitsubishi Lancer evo is the best
I got my evo 10 Mr with 12000 miles, paid $ 34500 .. 5 years later may 2020 with 26990 miles, still in love with it...
well in USA you can have 300 HP no problem in holland we realy cant only if you have alot of fucking money our gas costs fucking much
CarPassion you sound like a little baby grow up
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Any car can be altered by aftermarket tuning, but it makes comparisons nearly impossible as the variables are always changing - so we review cars the way the Manufacturers offer them.
We applaud you for driving all those cars yourself in your buying process. Ultimately, we want people to go out and form opinions about these cars from first hand experience. Bravo, and congrats on your Golf R. Thanks a lot for watching and sharing your thoughts!
R.I.P MITSUBISHI EVOLUTION
We're glad you liked these reviews and appreciate the compliments. However, we're confused by your question - if you watched the piece you heard our explanation for why we paired these three cars together. The explanation is at the beginning of all 3 videos and discussed again at the end of this piece. As explained... This pairing was not to compare the Evo and WRX (they aren't competitors), but to place the Golf R in the marketplace. Thanks for watching and liking what we do!
the worlds angriest lizard lmao
I have watched your reviews with Evos in them way too many times. Great reviews. I love your premise on this series, finding the place for the GTR. All nice cars, but i'm a Mitsu guy. I bought a 2013 Evo GSR in Wicked White a month ago. It's the best thing I've ever bought. Big thanks to the guys for all their work. I must agree with Todd about the Evo.....they are incredible.
Too much metaphors back to back to back. Talk more about the car please and not stupid metaphors.
agreed
Turbo Kun metaphors so your ass can understand dummy
Great review guys. I've driven all three, owned previous versions of the Evo (IX) and Golf, and I still picked the WRX. Dark grey in sedan form. I got tired of the constant maintenance every two weeks on the Evo, and tires ate up money I could have used on aftermarket parts. The Golf (R32 and GTI) were very refined and I'd recommend them to anyone looking for a great car. I just wanted the WRX, knowing I could get to work every day, and capable of finding trouble if I wanted to.
Wtf is that little volksswaggen doing here lol
Paulo Barbosa thats a golf r !
and? no one cares...
Paulo Barbosa and that car has more bhp than the evo or the wrx you goof . Shame you cant turn driver assists off.
Are u serious man lol? That Evo and Impresa its not the best of there rank, dont even try to compare a golf to those Legend cars, if u want a Evo or Impresa i can talk u about some... golf is a day to day car MOSTLY, and Evo and Impresa, are for that to and if u want u can do rally or go simply to circuits doing some curves like a boss... and they have awesome acceleration, and their speed is limited dont forget, and still they can hit 270km or more. They have their names written in history, cant say the same about golf. Now u sure like golfs u must be a fan for talking like that and i dont blame u.
Paulo Barbosa bro an evo is my dream car.... im just not lying to myself. an evo hasnt won a world rally event since 1999 with the evo 6 . you asked what its doing here .... i was answering you initial question. i think the question to you is how are these cars NOT comparable? i dont need to go and list the things in the video and NO im not saying a golf r is as good as an evo. its just a rediculous comment "what is that little vw doing here" when it has more power than any evo ever
My favourite car of all time. Must get one of these as soon as I have the money.
You're absolutely right, the EVO and STI are natural competitors. The explanation for this match-up is in the video description, in the opening of the video, and in the closing discussion... as well as many times here in the comments. Thanks for watching.
I'm watching this 10 years too late. Like you said, none of us cared about anything else Mitsubishi made, the problem is nobody else cared, either, let alone caring about the evo. I LOVE my wrx but am not ashamed to admit that if they didn't cost twice as much I'd probably have an evo
That's a huge compliment, thank you! We've got lots more on the way, so tell a friend and we appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!
The first time I watch any everyday driver video. I always thought you guys were trying too hard to make your videos a hit. But after watch a few more videos, I realize y'all make sense. The videos you shoot are thought out and straight-forward. Thanks (good show)
You are correct that the Evo and WRX are not natural competitors. We hope you listened to the explanation at the beginning of the video which explains why we brought the WRX and the EVO to this comparison.
We realize that there are other versions (or even tuned versions) of the Golf R which could alter the discussion here. But we focus on the stock versions available to US consumers - that's the way the manufacturers choose to sell the cars to the public, so we stick to those versions as the best "base line" possible. We'd love to have the best version of every car available in the US, but we do with what we have. Thanks for watching and commenting!
In 2010 Mitsubishi released a small number of Evo X SEs (340 to be a act). It’s the car you guys were looking for. All of the go fast bits for the MR (SST transmission, Bilstein dampers, Eibach springs, aluminum roof) with none of the frills: no leather, no sun roof, no nav system/hard drive). It sold for about $36K - much cheaper than an MR. They were released to the dealers a couple of months before the 2011models, so by early 2011, the dealers would let them go fairly cheap. They are still out there. Extremely rare and under appreciated.
Yes I did? I also saw the whole video of their review on the WRX as well? have you?...?
Great series guys! You guys get better with every show. Good production value too! Been a fan since day one, thank you!
This testing group has worked for many people as a way to place R in the world. Obviously, we know it isn't going to work for everyone, but it hardly negates the discussion - especially since we explain our reasons and discuss the STI at the end.
Having said that - You are more than welcome to make your own car show and "Do it Right". We will watch it and applaud you.
We hope you noticed that this is the 3rd of a 3 part comparison... Each of the other two cars have an entire video dedicated to them. This part 3 just covers the Evo and the wrapups. Every car we review gets a video of about 7 minutes, so combined, this three-parter is pretty equally weighted between the three cars. We hope you'll watch them all and lots more of our work. Thanks for your thoughts!
We hope you'll watch more of our work to notice that we're concerned about much more than just the power of a car. Live-ability and gadgets certainly matter, but if there are plenty of gadget and option filled cars that are terrible to drive. As you can see in our work, we focus on each car's feel on a great driving road, not on a track. Thanks for taking the time to watch and sharing your thoughts!
Just purchased an 08 MR, absolutely in love with it. Been my dream car since I can remember.
I NEED an Evo, too! I hope the next gen is just as fun. And Mitsubishi : please inject some driving fun in more of your models! Great comparo, guys...love the channel!
We are aware of the FQ-400, but in the US the MR Touring model is the highest model available from Mitsubishi.
We hope you'll stick around and tell us how we screw up in the future. As you can see on any of our videos we welcome all comments good and bad.
We know this isn't an obvious match-up, and so we've tried to explain it further to those, like yourself, who've asked about this grouping. Some people have really appreciated the cross-segment discussion based on the Golf Rs price and performance. Others have hated it. We welcome either and happy to discuss. We hope you'll stick around and tell us how we screw up the next time. Thanks for watching.
First let me say I am a bit biased because I own and drive an 04 R32. That said I think the V-dub got a raw deal in this review. The whole premise is supposed to be about which one of these cars would make the best every day driver. My cousin owns an '11 WRX, and I have driven the EVO, I haven't driven the golf R so I can only go off what I know about my own car, but as an everyday driver I think the V-dub is the best choice. Think about it, they are out here carving up some back canyon roads, and yeah I guess if thats what every day driving was like I'd probably want an EVO too, or the WRX even, but thats nothing what every day driving is. For most of us every day driving is about getting around town, running errands, going to work, and maybe hitting up some backroads here and there on the way home. If thats what I'm going to be doing most of the time, I want a car that is super comfy to drive, has nice creature comforts and a good radio (VW) and still fun and spirited. I will gladly give up a little performance to have the MUCH MUCH nicer interior, good ride, and creature comforts (OMG being from the midwest I love the heated seats) and still have a fun and spirited car to drive. Personally, I love blending into traffic and not have the stigma of having the lookit me fast n furious WRX/STI/EVO bro look. The people who I want to notice me, do, and to most of the people I don't want to notice me I'm just another golf on the road. I just feel its a much more practical car and its a lot nicer to live with. I guess thats why I personally chose an R over a subie or mitsubishi.
More practical? These aren't reliable though. Not that the Mitsubishi cars are either..
The Mr looks pretty close to a base Lancer tho. It's not gonna stand out much
Thanks for the review. I'm looking at the EVO now. Just used though. As was said, it is just too expensive at $45k. Hope to knock it down to 28ish used.
We welcome you to start your own car show and do a superior job. TH-cam is an open forum, so feel free. We will watch it and applaud you.
We hope you noticed that this group of cars was explained at the beginning of the video, and again in the wrap-up. This comparison is more about finding the Golf's place in the world, not being another Evo vs STI matchup. The STI is even mentioned in this piece, and the Evo is discussed as being available for far less than the version in the review - so the points you bring up are in here also. We're sorry this didn't work for you, but others have enjoyed it - thanks for watching!
It's a pretty big assumption to think we don't read or watch the work of others. We have no interest in copying anyone else, but we don't live in isolation. We respect that you didn't like this comparison. There are those that agree with you, and others who did enjoy the discussion - We know that will always be the case.
We hope you'll stick around and enjoy our work. Or, conversely, stick around and tell us the things you don't like next time. We welcome the discussion.
I love Evos. Been waiting for the MR review from you guys. Great review and keep up the outstanding work!
That's the sad thing about Volkswagen and most of its group. Car reviewers always claim how "durable" the fit and finish is, and while it is true initially it all falls apart so quickly. Having owned an Audi A4, and gone through the large list of problems it had, I no longer have respect for VW. What's the point of car ownership if it causes headaches 50% of the time?
LOVE your reviews guys, keep it up. I look forward to your reviews more than from anyone else!
Hey, you guys make some of the best car reviews on the internet.
VW compared the Gulf R to the STI and EVO. They were proving a point that the WRX out competes it
I can't believe the EVO doesn't have a fully adjustable steering wheel. That's nearly a deal breaker for me. Other than that. If I drove it and loved it as much as they did, I'd just look at it as a poor mans GTR or Carrera 4S and pay the $45k. Those two cars are over twice as expensive.
If only I could find a video review like this of the Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 2G!
Yes but in this case the CASIO is more expensive than the Rolex. 20% more expensive, that is nuts. Even the guys on the video say it.
Picked up my 2013 Evo GSR in white two weeks ago. Ten grand less than your blue one. Love it. It's the single most awesome piece of matter I've ever owned. You are correct, you just have to drive them to understand. It's a surprisingly good daily driver, too.
In addition to the Part 3 in the video title and on the title screen, we also have "LAST TIME" across the bottom of the screen and links to the prior versions running through the first 30 seconds of the piece. We're sorry that you didn't notice the lead in, but appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Fantastic review and video once again fellas! I own an 08' graphite gray (I think that is the paint name) Evo X, daily it everywhere and - LOVE IT. Gonna miss the High Octane Blue color, it isn't an option for the 2013 models.
I think they chose the WRX because the stats of the VW match better with the WRX than it des with the STI, and they used the EVO to prove that VW's claim of it being a competitor with the EVO and STI isn't very valid