i really like the NSX too, i respect it for what it is, but my all time favourite 90s JDM car is the R34 and i think we can all agree the best of them all is the RX-7
this endurance race is all about keeping water temp. and oil temp. in check while maintaining the race pace, if the temperature goes high (the light signal installed inside the car) they would have to slow down in order to keep the temp to go down a bit, in the case of the nsx, the oil temperature goes over the 130°C mark and he would force to pace down.
awesome race ! and skyline r34 truly deserve the win! but i think toyota supra could be in this line up... wonder why its not there... that should be interesting.
What an amazing race. The NSX S Zero and RX7 weight at least 350 kg less than the GTR so that, they both supposed to have most acceleration but nope. GTR smoked them by its "Fast in fast out" ATTESA logic. Lol They both have faster time attack lap than the R34 due to better braking I think. But a slower racing lap than the R34 on that day. I think they both aren't good at handling heat even weight that little. Not to mention more weight meaning worse more stress under engine braking and more stress under acceleration for R34 :P What amazed me the most is the R34 following the NSX most of the time at the first 10 laps yet still runs cooler than the NSX... wtf?? At the second lap, it even smoked the NSX in the first 5 corners.. It is a heavyweight champion. It's also quite amazing to see the R34 pulls 12.48 seconds away from RX7 at the final 15 laps. I don't get how the R34 get such great water temp. It is a 2.6 liter I-6 with most fuel per km meaning it should generate the most heat. Maybe it's the cooling system like higher radiator coolant cap pressure, higher coolant flow or a larger radiator. Or maybe a better aerodynamic flow for cooling the engine since the front bumper of R34 have a big mouth for radiator and also combining with a higher ground clearance, etc.... Also tires, GTR is the heaviest but I think it have the best balance on tire usage since the ATTESA pretty much equalize the tire usage between all 4 wheels unlike those lack of ABS effort EVO, Subaru, etc... The Subaru understeer too much, this is what happen when you put a rally car on race track. Yes, the NSX and RX7 weight less but they both over steer under braking meaning worse rear tire usage. The drivers will know the difference. Anyway, amazing race.
***** Wrong. MR is better in cooling. Coz engine is further away from inter-cooler. It's just NSX doesn't have big side/bottom vent like Lambo, ferrari, Porsche etc... to cool down.
***** Did I mention NSX has intercooler...? Correction, who the fuck said NSX has 5? Who are you talking to? No matter 3 or 5, it doesn't change its cooling problem. The front cooling duct is too small while it doesn't have big side vents like Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, etc... Also less NACA duct. Not to mention they packed 5 radiator tightly meaning worse cooling. Not to mention its low ground clearance failed to breath fresher air.. RX7.. Rotary has never been good at cooling since they generate more friction.
playah hater Dude the Supra is a great handling car what are you talking about? Yes people build them to go fast but they can also be built to be a serious track weapon. Stock the supra was one of the best handling cars of its time.
The Lancer EVO when you hear the sound of the engine, it do not have power at all i wonder Mitsubishi don't feel disgraceful to made a sport car which is no different as normal car.
Strahd VonZarovich Don't you see Mitsubishi always lose to Mazda, NSX and GTR? other japanese sport cars they have at least of 400 to 500 HP but evo only 280 or 300HP, dose evo only build for rally? plus Mitsubishi has quit Rally now only build normal cars i guess its better to shut down.
Lol doesn't matter about the Car it matters more about the driver usually the 3 best drivers in these drivers don't drive certain car's haha what you on about,, A Stock Bottom end Evo 8-9 Will Yeld out 400-450hp@all 4 wheels, ? is that shit is it thats 500-550bhp.. for standard rods, it just comes down to the drivers in these series Evo's win plenty of times in other races you must not watch Many of these videos,
The standard engine of Evo is 450HP FQ400 but it never been use it for race in japan, the Evos that can be the best are EVO 5 to 9 but Evo still could not be able to compare with NSX and GTR for track racing plus Mitsubishi has stop to build new sport cars so what to do now? Evo 3 and 4 its very disappointment on the handling on track. So i wan to ask what Mitsubishi planing to do if they quit racing and stop building Evo? even Subaru was still on the race and may over take Mitsubishi if they still dreaming or lazy.
Right now you actually have no clue lol, FQ400 is a UK spec Group N Street Version i own a Fq340 8 MR, an FQ400 is a Built 2.0L Using Hks Drop in H beam rods, I am talking about 400-450hp@the wheels Evo are used in Time Attack to this day an Were un defeated from 2009-2015 Look up WTAC , GTR/NSX/Rx7 Couldn't touch them Also Evo went from 92-2015.. Nsx Went from 91-2005 an Gtr 89-2002 then started back up in 2009 I am Sure ( Mitsubishi are entitled to a Break like every other company who has You are aware that every car in that race is Stock right? it's a Production race, top model evo in 2000 was the TME, every car in that race is Top model other then the evo its not even a rs, Evo have won Countless Hill climbs an still do , Evo Wins Time attack every year an Evo Still is in Rally.. Lol
I fully agree about their limits. But GT-R is a grand turismo sportscar that is better than RX7 and NSX for this use. RX7 is my favourite car though due to its ageless design, great handling and rotary engine.
giorx5 dude, GTR weights 1.6k kg. Its only advantage is its good start due to AWD system. You can see easily at 2nd race that GTR got the 1st place from the beginning (AWD) so it had no fight to give, when the other cars (RX7, NSX, EVO) were fighting each other for getting a good position while losing seconds. RX-7 & NSX are lighweight monsters that can beat AWDs' butts anytime in the corners. As for the str8 line, you can see the video ;) P.S.: I'm a RX-7 fanatic, but I accept the fact that the other cars are good enough too.
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RX7 passing the R34 is perfect. Braking and entry into the final hairpin, and the late braking on the final corner. Absolutely sublime.
Sabemos que el RX7 es rival del GTO, del Supra y del Z32, es increíble que sea el único en plantarle cara al GTR y al NSX 😀
やっぱりこういう企画は車の性能が顕著に表れる所を見て解説もついて分かりやすく学ぶことができる。ベスモは楽しく観れて学べる。これが好き
このクラスにインテRが入れられてる事は本当に凄いと思う。実力が認められているのがよく分かる
中谷さんの回避すごい。ガンさん危なすぎ。
この人危いよね
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中谷さんってホントすごい
中谷さんの回避は本当に凄い。
中谷さんの緊急回避やっぱ神業
中谷さん、ガンさん絡みで又も緊急回避！
17:40こんなにカメラぐいんぐいんされてどんな心境で語ってるんだこのお方ｗｗ
really want to know what are they saying sub please!
Nakaya san EVO saves was amazing
RX7 is a joy to watch. First race I loved it when I past the gtr with ease.
さすが百戦錬磨のなかやさん危険回避のペダルワークがすごすぎる。
Its insane the most unreliable car (twin turbo rotary) turns out to be the most reliable car on the grid.
15:40 Amaging Evo Driver's Skil!!!!.. OMG.. and Subaru driver is why so slowly? Plz!
Japanese drivers are comical and funny i love them.
ガンさん危険すぎ…中谷さんのF1は見てみたかった
evo's are so underrated compared to the other top tier jdm sports cars.
ホンダは水冷式オイルクーラーが足かせだと思うな。サーキット全開なら社外ラジエターと空冷式オイルクーラーは必須だよ。
amazing how even the heaviest car ran the fastest time
+cincysilvia8807 it truly is but it is the GTR
+quachimba very true
The fastest time was the NSX in both.
this is one of the reasons i own a RX-7 and getting a R34 GT-R soon!!!
yeah...but dont forgot that the nsx didnt won just because some malfuction
i really like the NSX too, i respect it for what it is, but my all time favourite 90s JDM car is the R34 and i think we can all agree the best of them all is the RX-7
Salafoudele Coco Yeah no doubt dude, the RX7 is/was the fastest.
too bad the RX7 has soooo many reliability issues...i would still take the NSX or Supra any time...
Salafoudele Coco If you come here to Japan you see NSX and RX7 are much more respected than R34
Why is the light on inside the car sometimes? I love this racing it’s the whole reason Gran Turismo PS exists.
Fuuuuuuuuuck now there is a collection of the most sexiest cars on the planet.
別の回の中谷さん神回避もガンさん原因だったよな…
15:48 great skill
1年前のと比べて車の進化すごいけど
機材の進化がすごい笑
んでボディーカラー青っぽい率たか
Whats the purpose of the purple light over the passenger seat?
Oil/water temperature too high
It's a jackass-o-meter. Gan-San is a jackass driver. Every time it flashes; it means he's cutting corners and normally would get penalized times.
ｷｬｰﾅｶﾔｻｰﾝ///
15:52あたりの回避すごい、俺ら素人の走行会レベルなら運よく回避できてもそのまま立て直せずにスピンだろうな
おじさん勝手な運転が過ぎる💢
Evo started last and had the fastest time underrated
what happened to the nsx??
Due to oil temp rise
Can someone explain what happened to the NSX? Gears, tires? Such a great race, I always chose RX7 in Grand Turismo as my first sports car.
this endurance race is all about keeping water temp. and oil temp. in check while maintaining the race pace, if the temperature goes high (the light signal installed inside the car) they would have to slow down in order to keep the temp to go down a bit, in the case of the nsx, the oil temperature goes over the 130°C mark and he would force to pace down.
awesome race ! and skyline r34 truly deserve the win! but i think toyota supra could be in this line up... wonder why its not there... that should be interesting.
Supra wasn't designed for this kind of circuit
Supra would be dead last
Rx 7 an tskuba equals heaven on earth
Before watching the video my guess would've been:
1: NSX
2: Evo
3: Type R or Rx7
4: Type R or Rx7
5: GTR
6: Sti
7: S15
Surprising race
Eightosaurus Spelunk you really put the type R higher than the GTR and equal to the RX-7 - haha that’s absolute jokes
@@andrewfleming3567 a gtr fan boy
@@davesanchez9843 im an NSX / RX7 Fan boy, actually!!!
@@andrewfleming3567 i'm just asking haha i forgot to put a ?
Can somebody explain to me what happened to the NSX?? I thought it came 2nd?? How did it necame last by the list?!
I think it may have overheated, but I'm not sure. I was hoping to find the answer in the comments as well!
tyre wear and cooling. common nsx problems.
@@jaredscott4829 pffffff
@@cr2nr lol. Lame.
がんさんほんとじぶんかって
I wish I knew what the tables near the end meant. Some are obvious
元さん、これの随分前にもギア抜けたポルシェをストレートで寄せて中谷さんを危険な目にあわせてんのにまるで反省ないなwww
perikoppe 寄せた訳ではないよ
レーサーにあるまじき危険な行為でしたよね💢
What an amazing race. The NSX S Zero and RX7 weight at least 350 kg less than the GTR so that, they both supposed to have most acceleration but nope. GTR smoked them by its "Fast in fast out" ATTESA logic. Lol They both have faster time attack lap than the R34 due to better braking I think. But a slower racing lap than the R34 on that day. I think they both aren't good at handling heat even weight that little. Not to mention more weight meaning worse more stress under engine braking and more stress under acceleration for R34 :P What amazed me the most is the R34 following the NSX most of the time at the first 10 laps yet still runs cooler than the NSX... wtf?? At the second lap, it even smoked the NSX in the first 5 corners.. It is a heavyweight champion. It's also quite amazing to see the R34 pulls 12.48 seconds away from RX7 at the final 15 laps. I don't get how the R34 get such great water temp. It is a 2.6 liter I-6 with most fuel per km meaning it should generate the most heat. Maybe it's the cooling system like higher radiator coolant cap pressure, higher coolant flow or a larger radiator. Or maybe a better aerodynamic flow for cooling the engine since the front bumper of R34 have a big mouth for radiator and also combining with a higher ground clearance, etc....
Also tires, GTR is the heaviest but I think it have the best balance on tire usage since the ATTESA pretty much equalize the tire usage between all 4 wheels unlike those lack of ABS effort EVO, Subaru, etc... The Subaru understeer too much, this is what happen when you put a rally car on race track. Yes, the NSX and RX7 weight less but they both over steer under braking meaning worse rear tire usage. The drivers will know the difference. Anyway, amazing race.
they have the same peak horsepower , but different powercurve
Powercurve isn't everything.
4wd lets you deal with higher weights efficiently
***** Wrong. MR is better in cooling. Coz engine is further away from inter-cooler. It's just NSX doesn't have big side/bottom vent like Lambo, ferrari, Porsche etc... to cool down.
***** Did I mention NSX has intercooler...?
Correction, who the fuck said NSX has 5? Who are you talking to? No matter 3 or 5, it doesn't change its cooling problem. The front cooling duct is too small while it doesn't have big side vents like Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, etc... Also less NACA duct. Not to mention they packed 5 radiator tightly meaning worse cooling. Not to mention its low ground clearance failed to breath fresher air..
RX7.. Rotary has never been good at cooling since they generate more friction.
Light in the cockpit with them is telling them to cool the car down
Can someone explain the tires part?
Best motoring Mitsubishi
hey guys, do you know why the nsx slowed down at the end of lap 5?
Was it because he thought he got hit?
I think is for safety reasons about temperatures 🤔
Temperatures. But it did make the fastest lap time in both times.
how good are these drivers? the answer: 15:30
Mr2?
オイル説明のカメラワークw
ブルちん 酔うわ
@@korosuke893134a 酔いました
As we can all see, the Integra couldn't even move into 6th place without the Evo retiring...
+四ノ宮ゆうた well no shit,it's a 1.8 na fwd
on R comp rubber... lol.
At least the integra didnt retire lol
The weight difference was the major factor.
i would say that evo vi driver got the best driving skills .
やっぱりFDよね！Rなんて目じゃない‼️
FD中学のガキがやかましいわ
富士 SUGOの結果見ても同じこと言えるのかな？
@@江田島平八-z2j
馬力上げとけゃ速いサーキットなんざ興味ないな
だから筑波基準でやってんだろ
@@ku3310 飛んだ勘違い君だな
高速レンジになれば高いスタビリティも必要になる。RX7はその点Rに劣るのは事実。
筑波だって十分馬力に物を言わせるサーキットだし、RX7だってその面ある。
実際ミニサーキットだったら軽いロードスターやシビックRの方が断然速い。
Subtitles please.
Only car missing was the Toyota Supra
Lol u can barely turn on supra and mr2 is just a go kart
Heavy..
@@AaaAaa-et9sx that's just because you never drove one only on straight line
gtrなんてベスモの中じゃ33以降重い、ブレーキ効かないそんな速くないみたいな立ち位置だったのに凄いな
endurance race tips: gentle on the throttle and the clutch and don't shift in the red zone.
Unfair race some of the car like NSX GTR RX-7 the engine is more than 2000 CC
インテRはサーキット周回してたら油温140℃スグ超える…
でも水温は100行かない位だし問題無いらしい笑
中谷さんと服部さんはよくガン爺ブロックされるイメージ
Toyota models ?
toyota will get smoked, you think that supra will hang around with the big boys?
playah hater lol a supra is not a big boy? lmfaooooo hate all you want buddy
idk but i think supra is more for drag racing
junaid b yes i cant argue about that, supra is more for drag race not a track car.
playah hater Dude the Supra is a great handling car what are you talking about? Yes people build them to go fast but they can also be built to be a serious track weapon.
Stock the supra was one of the best handling cars of its time.
hi! no more subs for this video?
not yet for this one
"not yet" ...
Still 'not yet' lol
lol
@@juanpablopardoleon3648 not yet
オイルがなかで沸騰してるのか。
油温の話のところカメラマンうろちょろしすぎw
The Lancer EVO when you hear the sound of the engine, it do not have power at all i wonder Mitsubishi don't feel disgraceful to made a sport car which is no different as normal car.
Strahd VonZarovich
Don't you see Mitsubishi always lose to Mazda, NSX and GTR? other japanese sport cars they have at least of 400 to 500 HP but evo only 280 or 300HP, dose evo only build for rally? plus Mitsubishi has quit Rally now only build normal cars i guess its better to shut down.
Lol doesn't matter about the Car it matters more about the driver usually the 3 best drivers in these drivers don't drive certain car's haha what you on about,, A Stock Bottom end Evo 8-9 Will Yeld out 400-450hp@all 4 wheels, ? is that shit is it thats 500-550bhp.. for standard rods, it just comes down to the drivers in these series Evo's win plenty of times in other races you must not watch Many of these videos,
Evo 1-7 are still good to
The standard engine of Evo is 450HP FQ400 but it never been use it for race in japan, the Evos that can be the best are EVO 5 to 9 but Evo still could not be able to compare with NSX and GTR for track racing plus Mitsubishi has stop to build new sport cars so what to do now? Evo 3 and 4 its very disappointment on the handling on track. So i wan to ask what Mitsubishi planing to do if they quit racing and stop building Evo? even Subaru was still on the race and may over take Mitsubishi if they still dreaming or lazy.
Right now you actually have no clue lol, FQ400 is a UK spec Group N Street Version i own a Fq340 8 MR, an FQ400 is a Built 2.0L Using Hks Drop in H beam rods, I am talking about 400-450hp@the wheels Evo are used in Time Attack to this day an Were un defeated from 2009-2015 Look up WTAC , GTR/NSX/Rx7 Couldn't touch them Also Evo went from 92-2015.. Nsx Went from 91-2005 an Gtr 89-2002 then started back up in 2009 I am Sure ( Mitsubishi are entitled to a Break like every other company who has
You are aware that every car in that race is Stock right? it's a Production race, top model evo in 2000 was the TME, every car in that race is Top model other then the evo its not even a rs, Evo have won Countless Hill climbs an still do , Evo Wins Time attack every year an Evo Still is in Rally.. Lol
Wish this had english subs 😔
GTR never wins in these race I’m surprised it’s a heavy over hyped fanboy car
still no subs yet?
15:37何考えてんだガンさん…
芋車w
中谷好像不爽黑澤…XD
RX-7 = NSX > GTR
I fully agree about their limits. But GT-R is a grand turismo sportscar that is better than RX7 and NSX for this use. RX7 is my favourite car though due to its ageless design, great handling and rotary engine.
giorx5 dude, GTR weights 1.6k kg. Its only advantage is its good start due to AWD system. You can see easily at 2nd race that GTR got the 1st place from the beginning (AWD) so it had no fight to give, when the other cars (RX7, NSX, EVO) were fighting each other for getting a good position while losing seconds. RX-7 & NSX are lighweight monsters that can beat AWDs' butts anytime in the corners. As for the str8 line, you can see the video ;)
P.S.: I'm a RX-7 fanatic, but I accept the fact that the other cars are good enough too.
Fully agree
yeah ok ok
***** RX8's 1,3L wankel has the same power, torque and consumption of the S2000 2L engine. So, what is your problem exactly?
ランエボだけトルクずば抜けすぎ
380キロって笑
本当は38kgfなんでしょうねww
4:07 これだけ凄いトルクの車を運転後なのに、普通に話してる中谷さん凄い（汗）
Please add subs!!!! :))
インプレッサ情けなすぎる・・
ホンダダメじゃん
ガンとかいうのさぁ、お前ちっとは後ろみてクリーンなレースできるようになれよ。見てて不愉快だわ。
釣り？嘘だよね゜゜(´O｀)°゜
黒沢はクリーンなレースできなくて昔2人殺してるからなぁ
+Taka K 誰を殺したんですか！？
当事者でもない、事故詳細も曖昧、それでよく人を罵れるものだね。
Taka K 殺した訳ではない。生き残ったガンさんが全責任を負わされたんだよ。
癌さん？
17:00
ごきげんいかがですか がんさん
じじいムカつくわー笑
ストリートならあり得ない走りや。笑