mahomes, allen, burrow, lamar, stroud, love, purdy, stafford, rodgers, goff, herbert, hurts all are fs better than lawrence so far. you can also make the argument for tua and russ. you can also look at anthony richardson and like what he’s shown and want him over trevor as well. thats 15-16 qb’s better than lawrence who is now the highest paid player ever. and thats putting it nice. insane
Well here race plays a part of it who they want the face to be they had a chance twice to draft Lamar Jackson instead they get a defensive tackle who couldn't even get on the field minshew Sam darnold Baker Mayfield maybe a little older but they are playing better right now right now I live in Jacksonville and most of us don't want him as our quarterback yes maybe if you had a better quarterback coach he could potentially be better we had a very very talented offense and the defense overplayed last year his bad decision making in poor play injury of turnovers and panicking they tried to use his injuries as an excuse the guy last year from the practice squad was better but I guess they didn't want a quarterback controversy just as they had a chance to get Justin Fields but they get the other guy the other guy from New England😅 with the same 6 round pick trade🤔 if he had the chance I'm very sure he would take the spot actually having the same play caller and quarterback coach it's sad when a franchise isn't trying to win you clearly see someone else that can be better but just because it's a first-round pick they want to treat it different and because he's a good guy
@@DavidRoberts_ he's a much better sports show personality and analyst than everyone on this show combined. Not saying he doesn't have "go for it" takes but he's also been awarded for being the most accurate sports pundit for 2 years. Including literally right now because no one else on tv picked the mavs to go to the finals months ago
sounds like an ownership issue and people being greedy. winners care about everyone around them like patrick mahomes, not just getting the bank and being supar.
Ive been saying this. Qbs shouldnt get to keep eating up the salary cap every time it increases😅. Other positions need attention when it comes to raises. Going to create resentment at some point in some of these locker rooms. GM'S just too scared to let a decent QB walk and have him go somewhere and be better
Supply and demand. They could get more. Dak, Russell Wilson, Cousins… they’re ruining the precedent. Burrow, Herbert, Goff, and Mahomes, Lamar, and Hurts took more money than they needed. It’s only going to get worse. It’s the singular position you can’t do without. Unless coaching gets better and prospects come out more than ever, it’s only going , up, up, UP. Kyler is one of the best deals in football right now 💯 💯💯
They’re afraid that they’re wrong about those QBs or that someone else will do better with them and make them look foolish. How often has that really happened? Usually, when teams dump QBs, they are right about those QBs. They’re either finished, or - in cases like Favre’s, Brady’s, Stafford’s, Moon’s, and Russ’s - can still play but will prevent their prior teams from rebuilding with the proper long-term foundation. Russ still has more in the tank than any of those other QBs did when they left their original teams or even their second teams. He can get Pittsburgh to a SB or two.
@@twils005right😂. They definitely are scared. But it really doesnt happen all that much. Maybe Rich Gannon? And of course Tom Brady,although that wasnt really about money.
Because a new team would pay Lawrence way more than this contract in 2026 when he would be a free agent. Have you heard of Kurt Cousin the highest paid player in NFL history.
Jimmy and Trey had it and didn’t come close to his numbers or one score superbowl loss in OT after a ucl injury. Stop with that argument! Purdy is legit. Stop hating
Yeah because the decide where the ball goes and can switch the play when they get enough expirerence. Every other position has to wait to touch the ball the QB and center touch the ball every play unless it's wildcat
Then let him win by himself, because your letting RB’s who rush for 1,500 yards walk and paying average QB’s 10X more. Na bro. If you average your getting average money.
Its Because we had one of the worst o lines in the league and once we had injuries it got even worse. The line was giving up a pressure every other pass play.
@DTWD904 No cap but that's BS man. Texans had the MOST INJURED LOEEST ranked oline of all time, not to mention other Injuries elsewhere. CJ still won the south and won a playoff game his rookie year with a rookie coach. Trevor is good but he's like Dak in the sense that everything has to be in place for him to succeed. His biggest downfall is his turnovers not reading Defenses. This is what makes him just good not great. Great ones succeed No matter what. If I'd been the Jags I'd wait since he has two more years to see if he gets better at that then pay the man or move on. Cause now you can't fix that Defense or add big names for a long time.
No James Jones keeps it real shady be caping for everyone except Lamar a lot of times he named everybody under the sun before James said 2x MVP Shady and Acho has masters they bow down to🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😊
Acho was 1000% correct when he said Trevor got paid for what he did at Clemson. Any other QB with Lawrence numbers who was drafted in any other round besides the first round, they wouldn't get nowhere near what Lawrence got.
@@aaronclay4665or the Lawrence/ Daniel Jones comparisons..... I once tried to argue on behalf of T Law being a "just Ok - good QB" and somebody opened my eyes 😂
$275 million for Trevor Lawrence is crazy. That Minshew comparison really shows how ridiculous it is. Saying Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 qb should be an automatic suspension from tv for at least 1yr lol
Jags really didn't need to let Minshew walk. They definitely could have built a great team around him and he would have been happy to get a team friendly deal.
@@JAMEZSP117 that team was horrible. nothing like what the jags had this year. plus: with a better team last year, minshew outplayed TL in the same division soo....
@@warnerjones9932 sure offensively Trevor has had better weapons that's why he has a winning record over the past 2 seasons a division title and a playoff win. But go ahead and be intellectually dishonest and say Daniel and Gardner are better players so you embarrass yourself more
Lamar is making more. The way it's reported is disingenuous. It's really a 7 year deal because Trevor is still on his Rookie contract. So the yearly won't actually be what's reported because that entire contract is spread throughout the 7 years not just the 4 or 5 they have reported
@@trident2309Super Bowl season & year before that Jalen took eagles to playoffs leading the team in rushing & passing with Jalen Raegor being his #2 Wr ……. Stop it casual
@@LKS-M9323 your the one being disingenuous. The last 2 years of his rookie contract could be paid out as is, it's not a part of the 5 year extension. They'd be paying him that regardless. He could've played it out. If he's mid these next 2 years they're gonna look even worse when that 55 mil kicks in
@enigma13ff playoff team with Lamar in, can barely win 2 games without him. Literally a dumpster without Lamar. With Trevor you can miss the playoffs easy
@@GoatedAtNFSWhy the Browns? No other team has signed qb a fully guaranteed deal. Doubt it will ever happen again. Kyler Murray contract is the one that really set bar for current qbs
Soooo no one wanted to pay Lamar even though he had broken records, and i believe he was an MVP by that point, but Dave is saying paying Trevor Lawrence was worth it!?!?!?? That it was a investment!?!?!? Wtf!!! Make it make sense!!!
@paulkaehn6203 OH Dave stated Lamar deserved to get paid, but him, Acho, and I want to say TJ Hushmenzada didn't think he should be the highest paid at that time. Only Shady and James said he should. I will find the video and tag you.
The Jags are my home team and I love 'em, but they basically paid Trevor Lawrence almost 300 mil for 5 more years of throwing the ball to the wrong person.
@@contentm3893I don't hate him or anything. But he's not that great to me. Certainly not worth what they just paid him. The Jaguars always get ahead of themselves when things start looking better with the decisions they make. And then they start losing again. They never just cool it.
Please 50/50 he's even decent like every Rookie. The glazing is crazy. Man is just as likely to be traded to the steelers as get a second contract with the Bears.
@@llamarre470% sounds a bit much though. Where you getting that stat from? Sounds a bit high to be honest. Last I've seen the success rate from #1 pick qbs from the yr '00 and onward is like below 50%. Are you judging success rate as simply being serviceable or just not being a bust?
@@Martin-mp5th the athletic did a piece 3 months ago and over 70% of the top overall picks at QB since 2000 have thrown for 4000 yards, won their team a division, won a playoff game or made a Super Bowl appearance. So that would be the bar
Lawrence having a 20 -30 career record plus he leads in QB turnovers over the last 3 yrs., if I was GM I would of waited 1 more season to see if we drafted the right QB or not. QBs should be paid on how they play, the league needs to "STOP" the next man up keeps resetting the market , I agree with James!!!
Out of all them guys he named other than Patrick Mahomes nun of them been to the superbowl, Brock Purdy is a last pick in the draft, still on his rookie contract, almost a MVP, been to the NFC Championship 2 times and a Superbowl... He better get close to the highest paid
I personally think BP takes the TOM Brady approach and takes less to keep the team stronger. The team success leads to better numbers for him including endorsements, where he’d make his big money.
but in his 1 year he proved he could carry the team without top talent. not his fault you kept Aaron rogers longer than you should have. and his 1 year wasnt decent it was far better than average, and I hate the Pack!!
Lawrence only got paid because he’s the next guy up and the Jags know they have to extend him, but realistically he deserved to be 10th highest paid at best
@@anthony3981 LMFAO Purdy didn't have talent around him in NCAA. Purdy came into game vs Hurts 28 pts behind n out played Hurst but lost by 1 pts. PS Hurst to this day still hasn't out played / beat Purdy 😅😅😅 Keep hating
Had Lawrence been to a Super Bowl on his first contract, maybe this is OK because you know what kind of team you need around him to be successful. Now, he's an expensive QB and that's it.
@@terribleatchess If he's not worth 75 million (which I suspect is true), then you go back. I the draft and spend the money on linemen, corners, and wideouts. That's what the Niners did and while their "franchise" QB did not pan out, they still were loaded enough to get to multiple Super Bowls.
Blame the NFL for overpaying all of these QB's. To me the only QB right now that has earned his money is Mahomes. This is a team sport. It takes 11 players to win a Championship. Enough said.
@@Truthteller01 He has been known as the "choker" in the playoffs. MVP's don't mean squat. Win a SB and that choker narrative will finally end. End of story.
@@carlossaenz7485we were choking in the playoffs before Lamar got there. Its a harbaugh stat. That man almost choked the sb idk how people forget that
@@frandavis1990 Oh. so you are blaming the coach now. How come all of these teams with HOT, Big money QB's can't win SB's? It your team did not have Lamar Jj., I will bet any money that you will place all blame on the QB..smh
1:09 it’s only too soon if he don’t get better if he become elite this year then people gonna be saying they smart to sign him early before they have to pay him more
@@anthoneykarimbey6156 and some people come in late he also dealt with injuries look at Drew Brees imagine if people wrote him off in San Diego All I’m saying is if he continue on this pace yes they paid him too soon but if going forward he take his game up then this gonna be looked at as a steal because if he takes his game up and they had to pay him after that they’ll have to pay him even more
The dude was not lying. He was using Stats to back his position like the rest. He mentioned how this is a psuedo 7 year contract and that the money won't start being paid out until the 2026 Season. By that time 55 per year will sound more palatable compared to 60-70 Million per year. He mentioned Trevor wasn't getting paid what he deserves but instead based on the Market and how the NFL does contracts for QBs. (Trevor will still be on his Rookie Contract through the 2025 Season.) He straight up says he doesn't think Trevor is worth that money as a player and that this is based on an Investment the team is making. It's true, teams invest in their QBs all too often paying for speculation as opposed to on field production. You might disagree with everything the person said, yet what he said was correct in how things are done in the NFL in regards to QB contracts.
@@kenweide6083 Every single one of those QBs will almost for sure be receiving Contracts with more pay annually than Trevor's and more than likely will either meet or eclipse the guaranteed money as well. This League is about paying QBs as "Next Man Up" and overpriced contracts. The majority of QBs in the NFL aren't paid what they're truly valued at based on On Field Production but instead based on what the team THINKS the QB will evolve into. This is a League wide issue. By the time Trevor's actual contract pays him his money it'll be 2026. At that point, 50+ million a year for a QB will be on the "cheaper" side. (Which is disgusting personally. We saw what happened with #1 Pick contracts after Stafford got Drafted when teams and owners finally agreed that the Picks were getting way too much money without ever stepping on a field and earning said money.)
Trevor Lawrence is one of the only reasons people will actually watch a Jags game. They have a small fan base and he draws viewers. At the end of the day, it's entertainment.
Not true, management signed him to save their jobs, because it’s safer to sign an Average QB that will go 9-8 or 10-7 every year than take a chance in the draft/FA and have them be a bust
David is 100% right. If Trevor is your guy going forward, then this contract is smart. It has nothing to do with where he ranks among the top in the league.
They showed a stat 2 years ago that the top 5 salary paid QB’s did not make the playoffs . The NFL will take a step back with the QB situation. That Daniel Jones and this situation is crazy
WE DONT KNOW... if he is worth it. ... He has NOT put the team on his back. He is STILL a PROSPECT after years in the league!! ... You should have said: play your last two years of your contract, or at least 1 year, and PROVE you deserve it. Indeed, are you above average? SHOW IT.
Trevor is a product of dabo swinnys system at clemson, he's basically a Mac Jones or Danny dimes. DAK 💰 should get 60M to 70M 💰 now .Jerry, the price just went up 😂
@@anthoneykarimbey6156 he didn’t play for 2 full years yes you get paid on what you previously have done in this league but when you ain’t played for a full calendar year and a team turns around and gives you a fully guranteed contract tht makes no sense like I said on par with that contract goofy mf
I’m sorry but dude sticking up for Trevor Lawrence is DUMB. Yeah it was too early but it was way too much money. How is Trevor worth it but not Gardner minshew when minshew has literally played better!?!?!
It's the Jags, a team that needs to get people in the stadium. They're not suddenly going deep in the playoffs or such, they just need people excited to watch them
If injuries didn't stack up I think the Jags win the division last year. Before that they had a good run something's like 16-6 with 3 losses being to the chiefs. The fumbles are awful gotta clean that up but like Dave is saying it's spread out over 7 years so the cap hit won't be nowhere near 55M.
Giving him the contract is ONE thing - but why all of the guaranteed money? Jacksonville STILL has not seen a Super Bowl. IF they are to go there, it will be due to the coach.
You gotta look at the reality of things. For the qb position you dont gotta be an amazing player to reset the market. Shady is so dumb bc he doesn't understand that the value of the market always goes up
He got paid off of potential. He’s the ideal Qb from a stature standpoint. He’s not bad enough to let go of and if he has a great year, they were going to end up here anyway. It’s hard to find a solid Qb and when you play in the AFC, you’re going to need a franchise caliber Qb to field a good team. That conference is stacked right.
@@Unique1MediaLawrence is far more deserving of being paid this money than Brock Purdy ever will be. At least Lawrence plays with a bunch of B tier receivers that he makes look better than they are. Purdy is covered up by a brilliant head coach and superstars
Don’t start crying about the QB market now 🤣🤣😂 it’s plenty running backs carrying teams and yall say don’t pay the running backs. Players should be played on how much value they offer your team … not the positions .. that’s why them teams can’t create good teams. They over pay for quarterbacks
Helman said the Falcons was wrong for paying too much for Cousin and Penix and Joy was schooling him how the Falcons was building for the future. Then out of the other side of his neck, Hellman says the Jaguars is paying high for Trevor because of what 'He Can" become. These analyst speak to what is convenience at the moment or he and his kind just back up their kind.
We live in a world where Trey Lance makes 8 million a year as a backup, Jimmy G makes 4 million as a backup, San Darnold makes 10 mil a year as a placeholder starter, while Brock Purdy less than a million.
I blame the Giants for ruining the QB market by going ahead and paying the worst starting QB in the league 40 million and now any starting QB in the league good or bad will want more then 40 million
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mahomes, allen, burrow, lamar, stroud, love, purdy, stafford, rodgers, goff, herbert, hurts all are fs better than lawrence so far. you can also make the argument for tua and russ. you can also look at anthony richardson and like what he’s shown and want him over trevor as well. thats 15-16 qb’s better than lawrence who is now the highest paid player ever. and thats putting it nice. insane
Well here race plays a part of it who they want the face to be they had a chance twice to draft Lamar Jackson instead they get a defensive tackle who couldn't even get on the field minshew Sam darnold Baker Mayfield maybe a little older but they are playing better right now right now I live in Jacksonville and most of us don't want him as our quarterback yes maybe if you had a better quarterback coach he could potentially be better we had a very very talented offense and the defense overplayed last year his bad decision making in poor play injury of turnovers and panicking they tried to use his injuries as an excuse the guy last year from the practice squad was better but I guess they didn't want a quarterback controversy just as they had a chance to get Justin Fields but they get the other guy the other guy from New England😅 with the same 6 round pick trade🤔 if he had the chance I'm very sure he would take the spot actually having the same play caller and quarterback coach it's sad when a franchise isn't trying to win you clearly see someone else that can be better but just because it's a first-round pick they want to treat it different and because he's a good guy
@@CreamyCaramelCrispy😊
Done!!! 💪🏿
@@CreamyCaramelCrispyYou not naming Dak in the top 5 is a crime and shows your ignorance
Shady needs to debate Nick Wright on Trevor Lawrence haha
Shady couldn't debate with Nick. Nick is actually good at this job and would smoke him
@@thenorthernlowlightthat’s cap 😂
@@thenorthernlowlightyou crazy , not against an athlete he won’t lol
They cant bring Nick on this show he'll bring facts and stats and still can get as loud and obnoxious as them he was demolish this panel, i fear
@@DavidRoberts_ he's a much better sports show personality and analyst than everyone on this show combined. Not saying he doesn't have "go for it" takes but he's also been awarded for being the most accurate sports pundit for 2 years. Including literally right now because no one else on tv picked the mavs to go to the finals months ago
This was a GREAT discussion. You gotta have a talk about how the QB market is hurting the value of every other position
Fr y’all gotta make this the top comment
sounds like an ownership issue and people being greedy. winners care about everyone around them like patrick mahomes, not just getting the bank and being supar.
Ive been saying this. Qbs shouldnt get to keep eating up the salary cap every time it increases😅. Other positions need attention when it comes to raises. Going to create resentment at some point in some of these locker rooms. GM'S just too scared to let a decent QB walk and have him go somewhere and be better
Facts!!! Its forcing teams to lose key players in trade and FA because they overpay average and above average QBs
Supply and demand. They could get more. Dak, Russell Wilson, Cousins… they’re ruining the precedent. Burrow, Herbert, Goff, and Mahomes, Lamar, and Hurts took more money than they needed.
It’s only going to get worse. It’s the singular position you can’t do without. Unless coaching gets better and prospects come out more than ever, it’s only going , up, up, UP.
Kyler is one of the best deals in football right now 💯 💯💯
Why are these teams afraid to let average QBs hit the market?
They’re afraid that they’re wrong about those QBs or that someone else will do better with them and make them look foolish. How often has that really happened? Usually, when teams dump QBs, they are right about those QBs. They’re either finished, or - in cases like Favre’s, Brady’s, Stafford’s, Moon’s, and Russ’s - can still play but will prevent their prior teams from rebuilding with the proper long-term foundation.
Russ still has more in the tank than any of those other QBs did when they left their original teams or even their second teams. He can get Pittsburgh to a SB or two.
Because Maybe Trevor Lawrence is not an average QB you obtuse mongrel. Your player evaluation skills need work
@@DeCurtaRicannot often
@@twils005right😂. They definitely are scared. But it really doesnt happen all that much. Maybe Rich Gannon? And of course Tom Brady,although that wasnt really about money.
Because a new team would pay Lawrence way more than this contract in 2026 when he would be a free agent. Have you heard of Kurt Cousin the highest paid player in NFL history.
Brock Purdy is 24 years old and is balling 3 times over Lawrence. The excuses people make for Trevor is insane
Lol FACTS. People are quick to drag Justin Herbert too but somehow T Law is still their golden boy 😂
Bro do you not see the team that Purdy has? Just stop
Jimmy and Trey had it and didn’t come close to his numbers or one score superbowl loss in OT after a ucl injury. Stop with that argument! Purdy is legit. Stop hating
SF would trade straight up in a heartbeat lol
@@thekingmtmt3873Do you see the team Jaguars got the got ballers
I’m with Shady. Every other position is told to prove and earn it and QBs are simply being paid for playing the position.
Yeah because the decide where the ball goes and can switch the play when they get enough expirerence. Every other position has to wait to touch the ball the QB and center touch the ball every play unless it's wildcat
Then let him win by himself, because your letting RB’s who rush for 1,500 yards walk and paying average QB’s 10X more. Na bro. If you average your getting average money.
Facts Daniel Jones is a prime example…I’m glad Saquan left and went to a winning team.
Indeed, that is just about the only thing McCoy has ever said that actually sounds intelligent as his role of analyst on this show.
Because there white
People don’t talk enough about the Jaguars collapse last season.
People don’t talk about our injuries enough
@@DTWD904 EVERY team has injuries brotha
Its Because we had one of the worst o lines in the league and once we had injuries it got even worse. The line was giving up a pressure every other pass play.
@@DTWD904 All injuries aren't created equal
@DTWD904 No cap but that's BS man. Texans had the MOST INJURED LOEEST ranked oline of all time, not to mention other Injuries elsewhere. CJ still won the south and won a playoff game his rookie year with a rookie coach.
Trevor is good but he's like Dak in the sense that everything has to be in place for him to succeed. His biggest downfall is his turnovers not reading Defenses. This is what makes him just good not great. Great ones succeed No matter what.
If I'd been the Jags I'd wait since he has two more years to see if he gets better at that then pay the man or move on. Cause now you can't fix that Defense or add big names for a long time.
Trevor Lawrence has more turnovers than touchdowns in his career. That's lost fumbles and running scores included.
^this
Boi when Trevor Take over boi then I'm coming back to these comments
@@maskedman5657once he starts cooking more apple turnovers, be sure to come back to these comments to get cooked as well
What’s embarrassing is some of those fumbles have been from him running and just losing the ball.
@@maskedman5657Have you seen the AFC? You’ll be waiting a while 💀
James Jones kept it real like Shady
YES HE DID...AS ALWAYS!
Facts bro 🤔🥳💯🤣
No James Jones keeps it real shady be caping for everyone except Lamar a lot of times he named everybody under the sun before James said 2x MVP Shady and Acho has masters they bow down to🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😊
@@6citysaga ...?
Acho was 1000% correct when he said Trevor got paid for what he did at Clemson. Any other QB with Lawrence numbers who was drafted in any other round besides the first round, they wouldn't get nowhere near what Lawrence got.
Yup. They're paying him off of his Clemson aura .
That Minshew Lawrence comparison is crazy
Wait till you see yhe lawarance fields comparison....
@@aaronclay4665or the Lawrence/ Daniel Jones comparisons..... I once tried to argue on behalf of T Law being a "just Ok - good QB" and somebody opened my eyes 😂
Jags let Minshew walk because they didn't want a QB controversy.
Terrible comparison, that's like comparing Patrick Mahomes right now to Tom Brady's whole career
Mineshew actually had better numbers 😂
“MINSHEW!” Shady had me weak🤣
😂 the best way to end the video
Yea as weak as I was that he bench rode himself to a sb ring an act like he helped😂
They brush right past the fact that Lamar had to play out his rookie deal even after winning MVP and people still say he didn’t his contract lol.
What's his playoff record? Lmfao
@@JAMEZSP117 doesn't matter now. Has Lawrence even made a playoff?
@FIREFIGHTERCBR 2-4 in the playoffs is not better than 1-1 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@FIREFIGHTERCBR Let's see where they are after equal amounts of years in the league. Guarantee TLAW has a better season.
@@JAMEZSP117 TL not evem top 2 in his own division. AR5 and DEFINITELY CJ are better qbs. that deal will age like milk
$275 million for Trevor Lawrence is crazy. That Minshew comparison really shows how ridiculous it is. Saying Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 qb should be an automatic suspension from tv for at least 1yr lol
At the very LEAST! 😂😂😂
Jacksonville did minshew dirty. He put up better numbers than trevor with a worse team lol
@@Brandon_Benjimuch worse team minshew best receiver was laviska shenault Trevor has Ridley engram Kirk zay jones eitienne
@@AlexRoth-vd1js who was the coach?
Yall realy think minshew is as good? Don't make yourself look dumb guys
It’s the hair they paid an extra 15mil for the hair 😂😂😂
lmmfao
Good character
What was the convo when Lamar wanted to get paid lmaooooooooo
Lamar had a MVP before his contract
@bgstv10001 MVP is a popularity contest. Lamar wasn't the best QB during both of his mvp seasons but yet still got voted the mvp
Jags really didn't need to let Minshew walk. They definitely could have built a great team around him and he would have been happy to get a team friendly deal.
I said that after his 1st year and got dragged for it 😂😂😂
That's why he went 1-15 FOH
Yeah it's was crazy they let minshew go like that.
@@JAMEZSP117 that team was horrible. nothing like what the jags had this year. plus: with a better team last year, minshew outplayed TL in the same division soo....
I’m a jags fan and i totally agree
Shady spittin' facts. Trevor Lawrence is a top 20 QB at best.
You don't know football
So what about Josh Allen?
@@supamarioblackshear6875 where would you put him? Top 15?
Lol top 29
@@HakeemTheDream616 hahaha.
If you guys want to be freaked out, Byron Leftwitch and Trevor Lawrence first 50 games are almost identical with stats.
Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones numbers are identical after 3 yrs ...
The minshew one is crazier
And even y'all aren't dumb enough to pretend like Trevor isn't way better than both of em.
@@thenorthernlowlightwho's had a better supporting cast
@@warnerjones9932 sure offensively Trevor has had better weapons that's why he has a winning record over the past 2 seasons a division title and a playoff win. But go ahead and be intellectually dishonest and say Daniel and Gardner are better players so you embarrass yourself more
It’s the Jags should any of us really be surprised
Stroud, Dak, Brock, Burrow, and other QBs are soooooo happy for Lawrence...because they will also see pay day at a higher increase!
Cj on a rookie deal for two more years
@@naamanjackson637 either way...the market will be higher once it's his turn!
Watch Brock get done dirty because he will have last pick of the draft stigma attached despite outperforming this prince charming guy.
@@raven-19x if his value is high at that time...he will see pay day as well...
Brandon doesn't want to be near the SF is Brock really that good?
Statistically Trevor Lawrence is just like Daniel Jones
TL has had way more talent than DJ also.
Casual take is casual
@@maskedman5657 how so?
@@cliffordburns6822Not sure about that. Lawrence got paid for his looks not what he's done for the Jags.
Then why people worried leave us alone
I agree with shady and James this next man up pay scheme is ridiculous. Try that at your next job and see how that works with your boss.
This the best Panel take yet....lol
It took Lamar years to get less than that
Lamar is making more. The way it's reported is disingenuous. It's really a 7 year deal because Trevor is still on his Rookie contract. So the yearly won't actually be what's reported because that entire contract is spread throughout the 7 years not just the 4 or 5 they have reported
Hurts got paid after one good season
@@trident2309Super Bowl season & year before that Jalen took eagles to playoffs leading the team in rushing & passing with Jalen Raegor being his #2 Wr
……. Stop it casual
@@trident2309 out here liking your own comments 😂
@@LKS-M9323 your the one being disingenuous. The last 2 years of his rookie contract could be paid out as is, it's not a part of the 5 year extension. They'd be paying him that regardless. He could've played it out. If he's mid these next 2 years they're gonna look even worse when that 55 mil kicks in
Lawrence is getting paid not because he’s good, but because he’s marketable.
Lol and they complained about Lamar
Lamar only won 1 playoff game when they did so, context matters.
And Lawrence had regressed last season so what’s your point ?
@@AilmanF2Pbut he was an MVP already! And look what happened last season. Lamar in the playoffs again and Lawrence missed the playoffs!
@@AilmanF2P😂😂 stop regurgitating & use your logic casual
@enigma13ff playoff team with Lamar in, can barely win 2 games without him. Literally a dumpster without Lamar. With Trevor you can miss the playoffs easy
They’re just screwing the rest of the league.
nope that’s the browns
trevor will be good
@@GoatedAtNFSWhy the Browns? No other team has signed qb a fully guaranteed deal. Doubt it will ever happen again. Kyler Murray contract is the one that really set bar for current qbs
As a dolphins fan when I heard about this contract it made me sick. Tua rubbing his hands like birdman 🥹
@@eddydede4275😂 Tua prob text him saying thank you
@@GoatedAtNFSwhen??? Watson was one the best qbs when he was with the Texans. Your Trumptard // MAGAT mentality makes you look really stupid!!
Soooo no one wanted to pay Lamar even though he had broken records, and i believe he was an MVP by that point, but Dave is saying paying Trevor Lawrence was worth it!?!?!?? That it was a investment!?!?!? Wtf!!! Make it make sense!!!
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Um, when did Dave say not to pay Lamar???? Do you have the clip?
@paulkaehn6203 OH Dave stated Lamar deserved to get paid, but him, Acho, and I want to say TJ Hushmenzada didn't think he should be the highest paid at that time. Only Shady and James said he should. I will find the video and tag you.
Facts!
Facts they changing the narrative
Coming back to this after their 0-3 start 😂😂😂😂
Yup! Need that panel back today to justify that contract….
Rather than “buy low” they shoulda forced him to prove it. If you have to overpay at least he will have earned it
Trevor Lawrence is the king of overthrows.
He does make really good sideline throws however
And QB fumbles
No that's Lamar
@@Sero4nah you so right bro can’t never hold the ball! Especially in clutch close game situations
@@maskedman5657as a ravens fan yea be overthrowing like crazy but no where near as bad as trevor😂😂😂
The Jags are my home team and I love 'em, but they basically paid Trevor Lawrence almost 300 mil for 5 more years of throwing the ball to the wrong person.
And putting it on the ground for another team to pick up.
😂😂😂
You sound like you don't like Lawrence, why?
@@contentm3893I don't hate him or anything. But he's not that great to me. Certainly not worth what they just paid him. The Jaguars always get ahead of themselves when things start looking better with the decisions they make. And then they start losing again. They never just cool it.
@@Xayjohns What's the alternative, not pay him and wait for another QB to draft.
Caleb will be signing a 10 year 750M contract three years from now basically automatically.
Please 50/50 he's even decent like every Rookie. The glazing is crazy. Man is just as likely to be traded to the steelers as get a second contract with the Bears.
@@ch.3569stop talking like you know anything casual the success rate for #1 pick QBs the last 20 years is like 70% go sit in the corner lil bro
@@llamarre470% sounds a bit much though. Where you getting that stat from? Sounds a bit high to be honest. Last I've seen the success rate from #1 pick qbs from the yr '00 and onward is like below 50%. Are you judging success rate as simply being serviceable or just not being a bust?
@@Martin-mp5th the athletic did a piece 3 months ago and over 70% of the top overall picks at QB since 2000 have thrown for 4000 yards, won their team a division, won a playoff game or made a Super Bowl appearance. So that would be the bar
@@llamarre4ya acting like he's not on the worst qb development team or bottom 5 front office
Shady came correct today 😂😂😂
Shady and Jones speak the truth. Owners need to get together and put a stop to this nonsense of paying QB’s top tier money for average play.
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Lawrence having a 20 -30 career record plus he leads in QB turnovers over the last 3 yrs., if I was GM I would of waited 1 more season to see if we drafted the right QB or not. QBs should be paid on how they play, the league needs to "STOP" the next man up keeps resetting the market , I agree with James!!!
Throw the Urban year out, worst HC in NFL history
Still Meyer has nothing to do with him having most turnovers by a QB over last 3 yrs
Agreed
Side note : Josh Allen leads QBs in turnovers last 2 years
@@anthoneykarimbey6156 Allen is even more egregious when you consider how many of those are redzone picks
Hurts had one good year, td-int ratio 2020 6-4,2021 16-9, 2022 his (only good year) 22-6,2023 23-15… got paid
Why did Herbert get paid?
Exactly
He shouldn’t have either.
He has 97 touchdowns Trevor has 58
@@AlexRoth-vd1jsHe hasn’t done sh**
They already had that conversation.
Out of all them guys he named other than Patrick Mahomes nun of them been to the superbowl, Brock Purdy is a last pick in the draft, still on his rookie contract, almost a MVP, been to the NFC Championship 2 times and a Superbowl... He better get close to the highest paid
I personally think BP takes the TOM Brady approach and takes less to keep the team stronger. The team success leads to better numbers for him including endorsements, where he’d make his big money.
“none of them been to the Super Bowl”? Hurts and Burrows
@@757CitiesReppathey didn’t mention either of those dudes
@@JC-hq7iu 😂yes he did.
I like purdy but hes loaded on both sides of the ball with a great offensive minded coach. He was winning games with wtfs at qb
Shady took us to Church in that opening segment!
We in a world!!!
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Amen Rev. Shady
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Trevor Lawrence is a younger Carson Wentz. He'll probably be dumped on another team soon.
Carson at least had a locked MVP season.
What did he do to deserve this contract
He's all they have and he was they number one pick even tho he ain't deserve it
He's the next man up
Nothing.
He's white.
@@jayroterry8405some team needs to break the cycle. Guy wants to hold out or not play let him walk.
JJ is the man on this show.
Fr. I’m only here for him
@@brody6392 then dont watch hes a pagan cowboys fan ar is garbo btw eli manning
shady > james and he cooked more in the beginning
A lot of players owe Mel Kiper 10% per contract 😂
You mean 10% commission!
I hope James has the same argument about Jordan Love. Sat the bench for 3 years and had 1 decent year. Now wants a top paid contract.
You made no sense….. crawl back into your mothers basement
but in his 1 year he proved he could carry the team without top talent. not his fault you kept Aaron rogers longer than you should have. and his 1 year wasnt decent it was far better than average, and I hate the Pack!!
That Gardner Minshew reveal was insane. Good job JJ.
Lawrence only got paid because he’s the next guy up and the Jags know they have to extend him, but realistically he deserved to be 10th highest paid at best
20th!
Not even 10-19. More like 25
I'll use SF QB Brock Purdy.
Purdy would n will put Circles around Trevor.
There NOT at same level and your ALL correct w this video about Trevor
Let’s see what Purdy do without half his team being All pro 💀
@@anthony3981 LMFAO
Purdy didn't have talent around him in NCAA.
Purdy came into game vs Hurts 28 pts behind n out played Hurst but lost by 1 pts.
PS Hurst to this day still hasn't out played / beat Purdy
😅😅😅 Keep hating
Look it up n TRY prove me wrong ?!
Had Lawrence been to a Super Bowl on his first contract, maybe this is OK because you know what kind of team you need around him to be successful.
Now, he's an expensive QB and that's it.
would you rather pay 50 mil now? or 75+ later?
Exactly
@@terribleatchess If he's not worth 75 million (which I suspect is true), then you go back. I the draft and spend the money on linemen, corners, and wideouts.
That's what the Niners did and while their "franchise" QB did not pan out, they still were loaded enough to get to multiple Super Bowls.
@@terribleatchess he was never gonna be worth top dollar, you sound dumb
Ain’t no way this dude should’ve been in a pro bowl from that conference 😂
Blame the NFL for overpaying all of these QB's. To me the only QB right now that has earned his money is Mahomes. This is a team sport. It takes 11 players to win a Championship. Enough said.
Lamar is worth EVERY dime of his contract
@@Truthteller01 He has been known as the "choker" in the playoffs. MVP's don't mean squat. Win a SB and that choker narrative will finally end. End of story.
@@carlossaenz7485we were choking in the playoffs before Lamar got there. Its a harbaugh stat. That man almost choked the sb idk how people forget that
@@frandavis1990 Oh. so you are blaming the coach now. How come all of these teams with HOT, Big money QB's can't win SB's? It your team did not have Lamar Jj., I will bet any money that you will place all blame on the QB..smh
Fact. There’s been more teams regretting paying their quarterback too early than team regretting paying their quarterback too late
Purdy is going to get 60m+
Purdy will get exposed if Deebo or Aiyuk leave
40-45. They are already working on his deal for a super long term deal. “If” he can pull off a SB win…(I can dream) he gets 50+
1:09 it’s only too soon if he don’t get better if he become elite this year then people gonna be saying they smart to sign him early before they have to pay him more
He’s had 3 below average years. 1 good year doesn’t erase that.
@@anthoneykarimbey6156 and some people come in late he also dealt with injuries look at Drew Brees imagine if people wrote him off in San Diego
All I’m saying is if he continue on this pace yes they paid him too soon but if going forward he take his game up then this gonna be looked at as a steal because if he takes his game up and they had to pay him after that they’ll have to pay him even more
I saw this on my timeline and thought it was a joke😂😂😂
😂 Brock Purdy has done way more than these high paid sorry QBs 💯
And when his time is up next year he will be paid more than all of them.
And still no results so what’s your point? Most QBs didn’t have the weapons he had lol
Purdy 😂😂… 3PEAT BABY!!!
@jrcrit8843 the only QB worth this money is Mahomes, but if you pay a QB for accomplishments Brock has done alot in 2 years compared to the rest.
@@jrcrit8843: What do you mean “no results?” No SB win, but played his tail off since he entered the league.
"Minshew!" 😂😂😂😂
If you can’t win on a rookie deal definitely can’t win with less talent.
The immediate cut to the end after Shady says "Minshew!?" Killed me🤣
Yea this deal was disrespectful to EVERY OTHER QB
Why is Chaz Bono caping up to much for Lawrence. Jags needed to wait.
The dude was not lying. He was using Stats to back his position like the rest. He mentioned how this is a psuedo 7 year contract and that the money won't start being paid out until the 2026 Season. By that time 55 per year will sound more palatable compared to 60-70 Million per year. He mentioned Trevor wasn't getting paid what he deserves but instead based on the Market and how the NFL does contracts for QBs. (Trevor will still be on his Rookie Contract through the 2025 Season.)
He straight up says he doesn't think Trevor is worth that money as a player and that this is based on an Investment the team is making. It's true, teams invest in their QBs all too often paying for speculation as opposed to on field production. You might disagree with everything the person said, yet what he said was correct in how things are done in the NFL in regards to QB contracts.
@@SmaugUKA Are we supposed to believe that Tua, Dak, and Love are gonna raise the bar? Not one top 10 QB....
@@kenweide6083 Every single one of those QBs will almost for sure be receiving Contracts with more pay annually than Trevor's and more than likely will either meet or eclipse the guaranteed money as well.
This League is about paying QBs as "Next Man Up" and overpriced contracts. The majority of QBs in the NFL aren't paid what they're truly valued at based on On Field Production but instead based on what the team THINKS the QB will evolve into. This is a League wide issue. By the time Trevor's actual contract pays him his money it'll be 2026. At that point, 50+ million a year for a QB will be on the "cheaper" side. (Which is disgusting personally. We saw what happened with #1 Pick contracts after Stafford got Drafted when teams and owners finally agreed that the Picks were getting way too much money without ever stepping on a field and earning said money.)
Trevor Lawrence is one of the only reasons people will actually watch a Jags game. They have a small fan base and he draws viewers. At the end of the day, it's entertainment.
Wrong Kirk Doug pederson engram oluokon Tyson Campbell is why they watch nit turnover teveor
you crazy asf jags aint got no small fanbase you listening to the media spew that bs for years That got you believing that
So did Minshew - city loved him.
Not true, management signed him to save their jobs, because it’s safer to sign an Average QB that will go 9-8 or 10-7 every year than take a chance in the draft/FA and have them be a bust
LMFAO they cut it off at minshew 🤣
David is 100% right. If Trevor is your guy going forward, then this contract is smart. It has nothing to do with where he ranks among the top in the league.
They showed a stat 2 years ago that the top 5 salary paid QB’s did not make the playoffs . The NFL will take a step back with the QB situation. That Daniel Jones and this situation is crazy
Never thought I would agree with acho.
Also, show is good without Joy. Keep it up.
James Jones is so on point here
WE DONT KNOW... if he is worth it. ... He has NOT put the team on his back. He is STILL a PROSPECT after years in the league!! ... You should have said: play your last two years of your contract, or at least 1 year, and PROVE you deserve it. Indeed, are you above average? SHOW IT.
Dat boy Purdy finna get paid when its his turn 😂😂😂
Where you at Dave?
Sean you just said herbert has the number that why he deserve to make more than Trevor but at the same time you hate dax and he has great stats
Trevor is a product of dabo swinnys system at clemson, he's basically a Mac Jones or Danny dimes. DAK 💰 should get 60M to 70M 💰 now .Jerry, the price just went up 😂
and when Dak gets that 60m… Lawrence gonna look cheap
@@terribleatchess Dak won't be extended without a trip to the NFC Championship game at least
If dak gets that iether cd or micha is leaving dalas won't have enough money and that's a fact
4:40 "bacon mayfield" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 man get shady off the TV bro
They said he was a Generational talent…I believe your boy Ocho said it…Hmmmm
They all were saying it, but now look at him. The nfl is a different beast.
this might be on par with Deshaun Watson contract they gotta reevaluate how they pay that position.
Watson broke records with the Texans…. Don’t compare the 2 🤡
@@anthoneykarimbey6156 he didn’t play for 2 full years yes you get paid on what you previously have done in this league but when you ain’t played for a full calendar year and a team turns around and gives you a fully guranteed contract tht makes no sense like I said on par with that contract goofy mf
@@anthoneykarimbey6156what records.?
“We in a World!” 👨🏾🍳🤣🤣🤣
We in a World!!! 🌍 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mahomes definitely had better first 3 years then Herbert😂😂
Stats wise Mahomes is down because he sat the first year. However achievements wise Mahonmes is streets ahead.
@@mohammednoor5589right. He didn't have to get thrown to the fire immediately so tbh we should be counting their first 3 years as a starter.
I’m sorry but dude sticking up for Trevor Lawrence is DUMB. Yeah it was too early but it was way too much money. How is Trevor worth it but not Gardner minshew when minshew has literally played better!?!?!
It's the Jags, a team that needs to get people in the stadium. They're not suddenly going deep in the playoffs or such, they just need people excited to watch them
This take like a fan debating with athletes when can’t do vs we can do once James put that stat up with Gardner take was over
15:59 Facts!
Yes That, and to sell more tickets for the media. They did that with Ridley for the hype. Now it’s Trevor.
Finally no 5 min opening joy take
Next year theyll be paying average qbs 70 million per year
Exactly
The josh allen D riding is crazy when he has lead the league in int since he has entered
If injuries didn't stack up I think the Jags win the division last year. Before that they had a good run something's like 16-6 with 3 losses being to the chiefs. The fumbles are awful gotta clean that up but like Dave is saying it's spread out over 7 years so the cap hit won't be nowhere near 55M.
Excuses
Every team has injuries fake excuse Lawrence lost to the practice squad titans with division on the line
Giving him the contract is ONE thing - but why all of the guaranteed money? Jacksonville STILL has not seen a Super Bowl. IF they are to go there, it will be due to the coach.
WHY DO WE KEEP WORRYING ABOUT OTHERS MONEY?
Have zero idea but here we are lol
like mccoy is saying because it affect the better players getting paid on teams we root for
It's a sports talk show bro lol that's what they suppose to do
😂😂😂😂@@Phillygoat1983
its others money, that their fans are paying for
Everyone made a good point besides the guy in the light blue
Right on
You gotta look at the reality of things. For the qb position you dont gotta be an amazing player to reset the market. Shady is so dumb bc he doesn't understand that the value of the market always goes up
lmao! Minshew cutoff at the end
😂😅 that took me out, shady is hilarious but right at the same time.
He got paid off of potential. He’s the ideal Qb from a stature standpoint. He’s not bad enough to let go of and if he has a great year, they were going to end up here anyway. It’s hard to find a solid Qb and when you play in the AFC, you’re going to need a franchise caliber Qb to field a good team. That conference is stacked right.
Show me a guy with potential and I’ll show you a guy who isn’t getting the job done!
yall were just talking about paying tua top 3 money… now saying Lawrence too soon?? Jaguars bought low, cause thinking-he wouldnt be #1 later??
Trevor NEVER be #1 or even some close to SF QB Brock Purdy and Purdy make Trevor look like high school QB
@@Unique1MediaLawrence will be #1 paid for a quick minute…
@@Unique1MediaLawrence is far more deserving of being paid this money than Brock Purdy ever will be. At least Lawrence plays with a bunch of B tier receivers that he makes look better than they are. Purdy is covered up by a brilliant head coach and superstars
@@marcusmcgraw3519 😅😅😅😅👆👆👆
@@marcusmcgraw3519 do NOT compare Trevor to Purdy.
Purdy broke Team n NFL records -facts
Squidwards House has been nothing but hype since he was in college
Lol squidward
Don’t start crying about the QB market now 🤣🤣😂 it’s plenty running backs carrying teams and yall say don’t pay the running backs.
Players should be played on how much value they offer your team … not the positions .. that’s why them teams can’t create good teams. They over pay for quarterbacks
Helman said the Falcons was wrong for paying too much for Cousin and Penix and Joy was schooling him how the Falcons was building for the future. Then out of the other side of his neck, Hellman says the Jaguars is paying high for Trevor because of what 'He Can" become. These analyst speak to what is convenience at the moment or he and his kind just back up their kind.
Yup, you hit it right on the head.
This show is so much better without joy Taylor.
We live in a world where Trey Lance makes 8 million a year as a backup, Jimmy G makes 4 million as a backup, San Darnold makes 10 mil a year as a placeholder starter, while Brock Purdy less than a million.
The owners are already plotting to change the salary cap as we are watching you video
$10 Million more than Patrick Mahomes is "Nasty Work" WOW!
Is ridiculous work
I blame the Giants for ruining the QB market by going ahead and paying the worst starting QB in the league 40 million and now any starting QB in the league good or bad will want more then 40 million
Everybody wants a return on there investment argument invalid