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  • It is the NFL's minicamp season, and several QBs are seeking a new deal, including Tua Tagovailoa. When asked about his contract talks with the Miami Dolphins, he simply said that quote: "The market is the market." Joe Burrow currently has the highest average value per season with $55 million, followed by Jared Goff ($53 million), Justin Herbert ($52.5 million), Lamar Jackson ($52 million) and Jalen Hurts ($51 million). Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether Tua should set the QB market or not.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

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    • @BentleyVB
      @BentleyVB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey Herbert is trash compared to tua.

    • @BentleyVB
      @BentleyVB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      shady is arrogant

    • @RedLeo-pf9yo
      @RedLeo-pf9yo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Joy is wearing a very nice top !!!🔝 😂

    • @kosmicj4310
      @kosmicj4310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BentleyVByou obviously don’t know football

    • @kylebell595
      @kylebell595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Without waddle & hill tua would NOT even have been talked about to this value.

  • @eyesopenmedia8167
    @eyesopenmedia8167 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +219

    shady is right.... something needs to change for sure before average QBs are making $100 million

    • @shaneisbetterthanyou
      @shaneisbetterthanyou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Nothing needs to change. Billionaires sign these checks and they're still making plenty of profit from the teams

    • @Noctem_pasa
      @Noctem_pasa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@shaneisbetterthanyouperhaps that’s a problem with the sports market, then. I’m all for players getting a bigger cut of the pie than the billionaire owners, but the only reason the pie is getting so big is because of how expensive it is to be a sports fan, in live attendance, TV options, and merchandise. Less affluent (read: younger) fans are going to be less inclined to be fans, and this whole thing could implode or become inaccessible to the average person if this keeps up

    • @giffondhall9214
      @giffondhall9214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shaneisbetterthanyou cap

    • @javarzshinall9396
      @javarzshinall9396 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shaneisbetterthanyouexactly recievers should be equal to running backs or less especially receivers at running backs

    • @UnionBeerHouse
      @UnionBeerHouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "before' LOL......If you look up "average" in the dictionary, Kirk Cousins' face is next to it

  • @RayRey028
    @RayRey028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +232

    I love how Joy never mentions that Tua beat up on bad teams last year but couldn't beat teams over .500.

    • @dadarkknight36310
      @dadarkknight36310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      The bills got beat by bad teams what’s the point you play who you play lol

    • @buster4451
      @buster4451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The dolphins lost.

    • @swiftslick
      @swiftslick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Shady just told Joy straight facts, Her counterpoint was based on Tua's potential. Which is why she lost that debate since that had nothing to do with what he said,

    • @quintonsimons6889
      @quintonsimons6889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@dadarkknight36310 doesnt matter if they won the divison still, atp its not just "can tua get a superbowl" its "can tua ever win the divison" thats y they dont want to pay him. this year is tuas year no excuses if tua cant beat allen this year he needs to be traded

    • @dlindemann8711
      @dlindemann8711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@quintonsimons6889 just like Dak

  • @Semperityy
    @Semperityy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Acho can’t stand Justin Herbert man😂😂😂

    • @17thN.O
      @17thN.O 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I can't stand his ball handlers that act like he is the second coming because he is 6'6, 260 and has long hair despite his results in the field say otherwise.

    • @youngboy3571
      @youngboy3571 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@17thN.Oliterally bro Herbert is big white and has an arm and that instantly makes him top 5

    • @fron911
      @fron911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@youngboy3571 now i don't rock with herbert like that but it was cause he broke every conceivable NFL rookie passing record during the 2020 season 31tds and 396 completions with a dookie squad and terrible coach.

    • @Semperityy
      @Semperityy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@fron911 about to say uhh herbert is the truth

    • @demondgardner852
      @demondgardner852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@fron911 if you think that chargers roster was dookie you don't know football. That team was stacked on both sides of the ball. You're right about the coaching tho

  • @ajmango210
    @ajmango210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    The way Joy talks about dak vs how she coddles tua is hilarious

    • @Semperityy
      @Semperityy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      She just be chatting

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Dak must have hit and quit it lol

    • @anthonyzarfati3579
      @anthonyzarfati3579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      As both a cowboy and dolphins fan, Dak is currently better but he has been in the league for quite a while longer, tua will be better than Dak.

    • @sunnydays405
      @sunnydays405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Semperityyidk why people like her so much. I actually like Acho’s yapping, but when she yaps it’s grating to my ears.

    • @OKG2000
      @OKG2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      shes a dolphins fan

  • @mojojojo8482
    @mojojojo8482 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Joy and Shady having a "Speak" Marriage argument 😂

    • @slickbillgod9253
      @slickbillgod9253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂 first time i ever seen them disagree

  • @schwolmart
    @schwolmart 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I love how real and passionate it got around the middle of this discussion lmao. Good times.

  • @ShaunMichael5
    @ShaunMichael5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Crazy to think Jared Goff is 29! Seems like he’s been in the league at least 10 years.

  • @Powernab
    @Powernab 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The idea that Tua, the 12th best QB should become highest paid is insane. The term reset the market is assanine!!

  • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
    @AustinNickolaus-m2r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    It’s crazy how joy says nothing when Shady speaks 😂😂😂😂

    • @xavierwilson5462
      @xavierwilson5462 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      lol facts

    • @johnathanspeaks8607
      @johnathanspeaks8607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dawg 😂😂😂

    • @17thN.O
      @17thN.O 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Shady's "crazy work" might have something to do with it.

    • @leanonme1065
      @leanonme1065 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Maybe you watched different videos

    • @kaelinjefferies9267
      @kaelinjefferies9267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wrong video for this comment 😂

  • @issakakish3904
    @issakakish3904 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    most of these QB doesn't deserve 50 million plus.

    • @dwightshealey8288
      @dwightshealey8288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone on your Job Thinks you should be payed less for you do care to take a pay cut 2 or of you are a Boss lower the price of your product ,😂

  • @africasupreme3
    @africasupreme3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Never forget that Shady said it was right to pay Daniel Jones over Saquon when both were up for contract. Oh, how times have changed

    • @alvaroreynoso9383
      @alvaroreynoso9383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He absolutely didnt. He was on Saquons side right? I remember him going to bat for Saquon. Did I miss something?

    • @africasupreme3
      @africasupreme3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @alvaroreynoso9383 yes, you missed everything. Shady was pro pay day for Daniel Jones and kept mentioning that Saquon hasn't been health (at that time). Just look it up before you start commenting emotionally. It's on video from this show before last year season started. You must new to the show

    • @AngelPerez-xq4qi
      @AngelPerez-xq4qi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      these guys contradict each other all the time. i see it week after week....they neglect to mention Drew Breeze was also benched during his rookie contract with san diego. he wasn't the Drew we knew under Harbaugh.

  • @Djack-py8xr
    @Djack-py8xr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Paying a avg qb 50 m will set a franchise back 7 years

    • @xBruskie
      @xBruskie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol... Overreact much?

    • @AustinNickolaus-m2r
      @AustinNickolaus-m2r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Like the lions

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AustinNickolaus-m2rWe HERE now 🦁

    • @danielresillez6983
      @danielresillez6983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@xBruskienot at all, his contract is 4-5 years and then you’re back to square one of drafting and hoping it hits. Been 20 years since Marino

    • @legitdragon6202
      @legitdragon6202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wild that people want to blindly pay someone who hasn't proven they can beat good teams and play when it's a little chilly 😂

  • @Semperityy
    @Semperityy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Shady be spazzin wit facts😂😂💯

    • @CraigC55
      @CraigC55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Na he be spazzin with bs narratives

    • @trashastrash9722
      @trashastrash9722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he brings up tua injuries but ignores literally every other qbs injuires.

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Shady the same guy who said he don't care about the past QBs because HE wasn't there to see it? That Shady. Said All previous QBs in the past are trash because none of that matters? Marino, Elways, Steve Young, Montana etc because he was there to see it. The panel was ready to jump him for that. Said Brady was just aight. Said Andy Reid is the greatest coach in the history of all football? That Shady

  • @elijatuss3004
    @elijatuss3004 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m trying to figure out how Justin Herbert avoids criticism as much as he does

  • @tonymcclendon3128
    @tonymcclendon3128 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Joy you literally just said Goff was a bust a couple minutes earlier

    • @smudgeous4068
      @smudgeous4068 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      She never said it was her opinion that he was. She said there was a narrative that he was after going 0-7 as a rookie as a #1 pick. This was absolutely true.
      His 11-game winless streak to start 2021 was also getting narratives thrown around, suggesting he wasn't good enough for the Rams and he was carried to the Super Bowl and overrated.

    • @UnitedStatesOfBrown
      @UnitedStatesOfBrown 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Were people born yesterday?!? The Lions GOT ASSETS from the Rams to take Goff

    • @xBruskie
      @xBruskie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@smudgeous4068 Exactly I remember people laughing at Lions for taking Goff now they act like that didn't exist.

    • @usopenitentiary
      @usopenitentiary 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xBruskiepeople laughed because Detroit was seen as a place where players go to die

    • @eddydede4275
      @eddydede4275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s not what she said, I don’t like joy like that but I have two working ears. She clearly said people were saying Goff was a bust under fisher in his first year and that is absolutely true. I thought it was crazy at the time but I do remember hearing and seeing media personalities say that

  • @EASportzzzz
    @EASportzzzz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    12:20
    Shady “yea, ones better than the other” 😂😂😂

  • @theliverpoolking2259
    @theliverpoolking2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I wish Acho got to cook because he was alluding to it before they spoke over him but Tua's tape is definitely better than his numbers. Do these people know how many 4th Quarters he's sat out of, how many perfect passes their God Tyreek has dropped that was on the money and would have won a lot of those big games. Do they know how many times Tua calls out of a play to let the RB run in the TD instead of throwing it and getting the TD to boost his stats? Do they know Tua plays behind the 31st worst pass blocking O-Line in the league and the starters have only been healthy together for 1 game last year (70 point game vs Denver). Tua's tape is much much better than his numbers, people just want to try to be proven right about what they thought about him his first 2 years.

    • @fy4b230
      @fy4b230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      His tape against good teams was trash last season though. Just saying. The Bills were 6-6, counted out of the playoffs, nevermind the division and won the division.
      Tua should thank the Jags for keeping the spotlight off the dolphins monumental choke job. Only problem it wasn’t a choke, they got exposed by good teams. Couldn’t even win a game at home against the bills to have a home playoff game AMD keep the bills out of the playoffs.
      You talk about the Denver game, how about the Ravens game when it mattered? Good teams don’t get motorboated like that. They couldn’t even score against their backups or stop their backups.
      I think he deserves a top contract, because he fits in well with the weapons he has and the system, but I wish people coddled Lamar as much as they do Tua.

    • @theliverpoolking2259
      @theliverpoolking2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@fy4b230 See this is what I mean, ppl just lying for no reason. His tape against good teams was good. A lot of those losses should be blamed on who you lot claim to be the best player in Tyreek Hill. Of those 6 (good games) you lot like to harp on 5 of them were losses as a result of Tyreek Hill's drops and or fumbles, after a Tyreek drop or fumble that's when you see Tua start to press when we're down and then he starts to play bad because he's over pursuing things due to Reek's mistakes.

    • @sheilap2443
      @sheilap2443 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@theliverpoolking2259 When WRs drop the ball, they still blamed Mahomes. So is it different for Tua? I say he should get paid but not a reset. And Herbert is overpaid in my opinion. Good luck next season though.

    • @theliverpoolking2259
      @theliverpoolking2259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sheilap2443 Oh no, don't get me wrong. I blame Tua for the losses but I see Tua as the best player on that offense. Mahomes gets blamed (which he really doesn't they blame his lack of weapons for sure but he's afforded that luxury because he's great) because he's the best player. My issue is they say Tyreek is the best player but never blame Reek for his shortcomings. If the media considers you the best player and the engine for a team then that player should be blamed for losses.

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tua needs to repeat what he did last season and actually win a playoff game or two to make your point valid. That’s all

  • @OKG2000
    @OKG2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Shady said Tua was a bust before mcdaniels got there even though he had winning record

  • @larwskhayann2645
    @larwskhayann2645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Totally agree ! We keep rising the qb money but they still gotta play the other players. Let’s make a league where only QB plays…

  • @CaliPats209
    @CaliPats209 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

    As a pats fan, please resign Tua 🙏🤣

    • @brandonguido933
      @brandonguido933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      Phins fan. He’s 7-0 against NE lmao. We will sign him but 56 mil is CRAZY

    • @willfrancojr.3
      @willfrancojr.3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      he’s never lost to NE

    • @daylanm66
      @daylanm66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Unless you’re a bills fan, you shouldn’t be saying that 😂 because the bills always beat the fins and tua the pats on the other hand it’s the complete opposite you guys always lose to Miami

    • @thomasisrael673
      @thomasisrael673 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesnt make a difference what the Dolphins or any team in your division do....yall Patriots will still be horrible like you always have been. Y'all had to cheat and cheat and cheat to get anywhere and mark these words....those FAKE SUPERBOWLS will be erased from the historical record someday. We get that honest generation of new people....bye bye patriots FAKE ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!

    • @gonzolo4
      @gonzolo4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      You do realize that Tua is undefeated against NE right?

  • @HockeyDudeJames2
    @HockeyDudeJames2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Acho keepin his Herbert hate fresh. Lol

    • @orvillemcpherson6417
      @orvillemcpherson6417 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What has Herbert done?

    • @maxjones8641
      @maxjones8641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orvillemcpherson6417nothing

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@orvillemcpherson6417 looked better than Tua. Without the same weapons and coaching.

    • @Semperityy
      @Semperityy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@HockeyDudeJames2 Facts

    • @sly0422
      @sly0422 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HockeyDudeJames2 Herbert had keenan allen his whole career and has had eckler

  • @anthonyslazas6413
    @anthonyslazas6413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    With his injury history I'm not playing Tua a high dollar contract without some kind of insurance in the contract itself.

    • @ROCKBETHENAME
      @ROCKBETHENAME 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea it’s called most of it isn’t guaranteed like most NFL contracts

    • @anthonyslazas6413
      @anthonyslazas6413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ROCKBETHENAME not the idea I had in mind

    • @Latrey69
      @Latrey69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tua has a regular starting QB injury history.

    • @zzzkun2526
      @zzzkun2526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m not big on Tua getting paid a crazy bag, but his injury history isn’t really that bad. And you could blame a lotta that on his medical staff at the time, they had him playing through some bad bad stuff

    • @tshebeletsotjabane4979
      @tshebeletsotjabane4979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      How often is Joe or Lamar healthy?

  • @ONGEES
    @ONGEES 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Shady was making a valid point though ngl.

  • @rogerallen2307
    @rogerallen2307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Rams had 11 wins not Jared goff

    • @jskully9784
      @jskully9784 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same applies for Tua

  • @beastmode3545
    @beastmode3545 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "Make you stand up and beg for buttermilk"...RIP BILL PAXTON

  • @KendoAlexander
    @KendoAlexander 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Shady needs to keep this energy with Hurts. Literally had one good season.

    • @manolopmb
      @manolopmb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He went to the superbowl

    • @TYreLL0416
      @TYreLL0416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@manolopmbAnd lost…

    • @dangelobrown87
      @dangelobrown87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jalen gonna continue to regress

    • @davejohn255
      @davejohn255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TYreLL0416 Well technically he won it and was sitting on the bench while his defense lost it.

    • @markbay9275
      @markbay9275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davejohn255 He had a crucial fumble. He also couldnt convert on critical downs.

  • @andreneal2078
    @andreneal2078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Joe Burrow went to the Super Bowl one time been hurt two years. I just don’t get it, Justin Herbert has done nothing.hating just to hate is crazy, if anybody else had his stats, y’all will be saying he should be paid

  • @salomelopez3986
    @salomelopez3986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    No lie this was a fire debate 🤣🤣

  • @mashedpotato982
    @mashedpotato982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My man Shady giving that busy work

  • @Coach.AJ_FL
    @Coach.AJ_FL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ultimately, contracts are awarded based on various criteria: some focus on production, others on physical attributes, and yet others on potential.

  • @DariusJones05
    @DariusJones05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Joy is getting more and more dense 😂 like stop it. The QB market should be reset…back to reality. Stop paying top market dollar for average talent and performance. As a fan, I can’t stand when my team binds themselves to mediocre players.

  • @dgodm7541
    @dgodm7541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    do they realize that tua has missed less games than burrow?

    • @LKS-M9323
      @LKS-M9323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahco does cus he actually does reshearch.

    • @guiseppejacobs2357
      @guiseppejacobs2357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But burrow has shown when he’s healthy he’s elite and while both have had great teams around them only one has actually won a lot in the playoffs

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Injuries cost us in the playoffs

  • @NBLNothingButLovePodcast
    @NBLNothingButLovePodcast 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Shady just be talking…😂😂

  • @bigbankbreeze2847
    @bigbankbreeze2847 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Herbert making more than a 2 time mvp and QB that went to a Super Bowl is nasty work lol

    • @TheLivedeath
      @TheLivedeath 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Herbert's playstyle has higher longevity. Lamar or Hurts in 5 years more prone to a falloff/injury.

    • @aaronhugz4277
      @aaronhugz4277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He's YT lol

    • @noredoosno2929
      @noredoosno2929 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@TheLivedeathwe literally just seen Herbert get injured last year. Hurts and Lamar played a full season.

    • @gnd111
      @gnd111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pat likes his deal...he wins in the end for money and rings...he also will get a few restructures here and there and TONS more in adverts

    • @anti-classist
      @anti-classist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'd bet with advertising income and taxes in Missouri vs Cali he is making way more.

  • @ChrisGrav11
    @ChrisGrav11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Goff had Jeff fisher who’s winning with him as the coach

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you act like Tua had a superbowl or playoff winning coach

  • @Kandidat1999
    @Kandidat1999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lamar Jackson has a 2-4 playoff record….no one says a word about this, Burrow has missed more games than Tua in the regular season by now

    • @daytonaguy3584
      @daytonaguy3584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lamar is literally the only superstar on his team until now…

    • @bcamm3100
      @bcamm3100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dude, don't do that. Mia would pick LJ and Burrow over Tua

    • @Kandidat1999
      @Kandidat1999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bcamm3100 In this Offense, where you need timing and anticipation? No thank you.

    • @jrcrit8843
      @jrcrit8843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kandidat1999dude take off the tin foil hat. Lamar at least has playoff wins. Tua has 0 playoff wins and got smashed by playoff teams in the regular season. His back up outperformed in the playoff loss last year. Tua is not a top 10 QB but Miami can have fun with mediocrity though

    • @Kandidat1999
      @Kandidat1999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jrcrit8843 Skylar Thompson did what? LOL, a QB who is Top 3 in every major passing category the last 2 years, is not Top 10, how is that even remotely possible? Troll Alert

  • @AJCsr
    @AJCsr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Remember back when everyone said that Joe Flacco wasn't worth the (reset the QB market money) that the Raven's grudgingly agreed to paying him ?
    After he won a superbowl ! 😈

  • @mosesw17
    @mosesw17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They fail to mention the QB salaries still take up the same % of the cap as they normally do. The cap is getting higher thus players are getting paid more, but in a sense their pay isn't taking up more space per se although it's constantly getting higher.

  • @theonlytashab
    @theonlytashab 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yo they’ve been yelling in every episode this week 😭

    • @MikeMitchell-y3m
      @MikeMitchell-y3m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you sing that song "all the way to the top"?? I love that song

    • @theonlytashab
      @theonlytashab 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MikeMitchell-y3m oh wow yeah LOL thanks

  • @22savagetv
    @22savagetv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    These the same ppl that scoff at the idea of Dak Prescott getting an extension.. but sign Tua? Shady shockingly is the only one that made sense here.

    • @snowhawk04
      @snowhawk04 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'd rather have Tua on Miami for 56M than Dak on Dallas for 56M.

    • @jrcrit8843
      @jrcrit8843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@snowhawk04what logical reason would you give Tua that money and not Dak? Like just try and take your own bias out. There is nothing that would qualify Tua based off his regular season record, playoff record, and injury history that would make you pay Tua that money at all.

    • @kevonsidek9737
      @kevonsidek9737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@snowhawk04cuz you don’t know a single thing about sports

    • @snowhawk04
      @snowhawk04 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kevonsidek9737 The Cowboys choking every year is a given. Dak is a big part of that.

    • @landoblack4874
      @landoblack4874 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@snowhawk04 the team a big part of that this not golf you cant blame 1 person especially this past year that was all defense

  • @keithmoran5695
    @keithmoran5695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nobody Had a Problem with Giants giving Daniel Jones $40 million. Stop the hate Phins Up.

    • @paulmayer8654
      @paulmayer8654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      False 😂 a lot of people thought that was insane

  • @matushka78
    @matushka78 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If a club fully believes that they have their franchise QB, then they will gladly pay regardless of Wins/Losses. E.g. Herbert.
    I don’t think Miami believes that yet.

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they waited to long to try and pay everybody. They messed up big time.

  • @jayp4114
    @jayp4114 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Joy Taylor has a fabulous rack, but her analysis isn't cutting the mustard. Great rack, though !

  • @fatalcontent
    @fatalcontent 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They're saying McDaniels isn't going anywhere like he's Bill B. He struggles just like Tua when it matters. Like paying him 56 million gets masked by McDaniels lol

  • @blymoua
    @blymoua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is every other QB able to grow and get better but not tua?

  • @DavidECoy
    @DavidECoy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I 100% agree with shady and even James. The top guys should jump each other but the next tear of guys should never jump the top guys. I’m sorry I don’t care what the market says. U don’t pay an average guy more just because it’s his turn to sign a new contract. I’d rather take my chances with a rookie or a lesser QB who I can surround with more talent like Purdy. There’s a reason why Pat is the only QB to win a SB with that high of a percentage of the cap going to him. If ur a guy good enough to make up for not having great receivers or online then ya u should get paid more but if u can’t make up for the lack of talent then u should get lower pay so more money can go to having better talent players to help u.

  • @morrispettiford4253
    @morrispettiford4253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shady was INSIGNIFICANT in both of his SB rings.

    • @eddydede4275
      @eddydede4275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro he talking crazy like he did anything lol. James 1 Super Bowl is more impactful than shades two. James actually contributed in the game

    • @ThatDudeO.D.
      @ThatDudeO.D. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Him and Dak got the same amount of yards in the superbowl!!!!..😅😅😅

    • @morrispettiford4253
      @morrispettiford4253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly...I can't stand Shady McCoy

  • @BK-hp8cj
    @BK-hp8cj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All these teams paying 100 grand for a pinto while the lambo is still costing only 80k

    • @mattsims7530
      @mattsims7530 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @imdrekko
    @imdrekko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    where the rest of the video? im trynna hear what james was about to say😂🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @JamesBooker82
    @JamesBooker82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They need to stop saying that "this isn't your money so don't worry about it." It is our money. There is a reason that 2 drinks and food will run you almost $100 at an NFL game, not to mention ticket prices. That is all because they're paying the players ridiculous amounts of money. Unless you're playing for championships and are the top talent at that position, NO you shouldn't set anything.

  • @anthoneykarimbey6156
    @anthoneykarimbey6156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shady : “there is so many average qbs that get paid according to the market”….
    Where is this energy for them when yall segments about them?

  • @ABigDreamersPodcast
    @ABigDreamersPodcast 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tua is a beast, he’s been getting better every year and proving people wrong. This year is going to be no different.

  • @jamelwilliams1144
    @jamelwilliams1144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another bad take from shady. Dude never provides context around his arguments.

  • @rogerallen2307
    @rogerallen2307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stop overrating these quarterbacks they contribute to win they don’t play defense so stop giving them credit

    • @mattsims7530
      @mattsims7530 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You haven't heard, the QBs are playing one on one, man to man. It has been like that for at least 20 years. Sad isn't it.

  • @CalebQuinn-yb9pm
    @CalebQuinn-yb9pm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m convinced now if Josh Rosen had played in today’s nfl he could have got a bag, they just be paying these QBs to literally do the bare minimum 😭no Qb in the nfl should be making even close to mahomes

  • @samuelrankin9637
    @samuelrankin9637 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People are already calling Bryce Young a bust after one year just because he is on the worst team in the league. Wdym you can't be considered a buster after 1 year?

  • @thomasisrael673
    @thomasisrael673 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Shady=100% on target

    • @swelly84
      @swelly84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea it was smooth how Acho tried to gloss over Tuas second year in the he league 😂

    • @advancedstupidity5459
      @advancedstupidity5459 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes Acho and Joy have the most garbage takes. Tua would be on his way to backup somewhere without Tyreek Hill.

    • @truthseekerchris8766
      @truthseekerchris8766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No he's not

    • @imdb2513
      @imdb2513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@swelly84Acho a Tua fanboy cause he gets to exploit the cult that follows Tua for engagements.
      Man glossed right over Tua second year. “He was a winner” The Dolphins had a top 10 defense that was scoring touchdowns and turnover the ball over at insane rates for two years. His second season the Dolphins defense led the way during the win streak

    • @smudgeous4068
      @smudgeous4068 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​​@@swelly84What did Tua have around him in year 2?
      + Rookie Waddle
      - 8 starts from WR1 Parker
      - worst O-Line in the league (by wide margin)
      - bottom of league WR separation
      - bottom of league run threat
      - 3rd OC in 2 years
      +/- good defense (bad for stats - 10 fewer attempts per game than Herbert, good for wins)
      Yet looking at his stats, he had a better QBR over his 12.1 games than Burrow has had in either of his 2 championship game playoff runs. Better completion percentage than Burrow's 7-game average too. Scaled to 17 games, Tua would have 1 fewer TDs and 3 more INTs. Burrow averaged 261 yards on 36 attempts vs Tua's 220 on 32 attempts (not counting Tua's game where his ribs were broken less than 5 minutes in). Tua had 2/12 full games go for over 275 passing yards vs Burrow's postseason 1/7. All this while Burrow had substantially better talent on the line + WR1/2/3 + RB.
      It's weird how two players similarly helped out by comparable amounts of defense have drastically different narratives surrounding them. Both of his postseason runs, Burrow was bailed out in the wild card game by a turnover in the 4th quarter within the Cinci 10 yard line, the defense forced 2 turnovers overall, and held their opponent below their season point average. Both games were single score games.

  • @Michael_Page
    @Michael_Page 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shady got busy in this segment. Listening to these guys talk football is very entertaining.

  • @Travis89-ob5tt
    @Travis89-ob5tt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Reset the market? Just take anything close to 50M a year and say thank you after signing. This fool already tweaked out with his hands after that concussion which is the sign of a massive head injury.

    • @xBruskie
      @xBruskie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Also his Doctors said he will be fine and long term reprecussions from it but ya know more than them I am sure.

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He doesn't deserve more than Kirk Cousins

    • @kingmunchtv
      @kingmunchtv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why when hed get more on open market lol

    • @anthoneykarimbey6156
      @anthoneykarimbey6156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tua is better than
      Goff

    • @LKS-M9323
      @LKS-M9323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmfao hos fingers look like that after he throws most passes 😂 🤣

  • @Guy117
    @Guy117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Team Acho and Joy…Shady a hater

  • @anthoneykarimbey6156
    @anthoneykarimbey6156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shady contradicts his self…. He didn’t have this energy for Goff

  • @yurrgee
    @yurrgee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As an Eagles fan even though we are in totally different conferences, please resign him

  • @tobiaswilliams8693
    @tobiaswilliams8693 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joy saying people called Jo Burrow a bust at 14:14 is crazy, I've never heard anyone refer to him as a bust 🙄🙄

  • @DopeThamacc-cx2bi
    @DopeThamacc-cx2bi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    16:32 I hate that argument though about who he has on his team because nobody wanted to say that about Patrick mahomes when he was playing with Kareem hunt Travis Kelce Tyreek Hill Sammy Watkins and the other dude was pretty fast too and then after Tyreek Hill leaves they're like oh my gosh anyone without Tyreek Hill even though he has the greatest tight end of all time

  • @dereklaker5642
    @dereklaker5642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why does McCoy feel the need to shout down everyone!!! It only emphasises his lack of articulation. Great player not so hot on the panel.

  • @Sean-vl8xd
    @Sean-vl8xd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They should give Tua 60mil 🤑😂

  • @bagodonuts5779
    @bagodonuts5779 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Jared Goff was a bust! A bust!” And then says she didn’t say that, is repeating what people said. So do you agree? If not, why bringing it up, how is it relevant Joy??? 🤦‍♂️
    There’s so much hypocrisy in this segment.

  • @cambridgesqaureboy
    @cambridgesqaureboy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tua’s more accurate than Herbert. Jared played with the best DL ( Aaron Donald ) in the history of the game. All those quarterbacks have better defense than Tua ever had. Tyreek and Jaylen are good but small; however, with Tua accuracy they are Jerry Rice and randy moss.

  • @michaeleberhart6590
    @michaeleberhart6590 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Joy- “Jared Goff was a bust before Mcvay…. A BUST!!!!!!!”
    *3 minutes later
    Joy- “I never said Jared Goff was a bust.” 🤨

  • @rogerallen2307
    @rogerallen2307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That’s true as a Miami fan I love tua he was never the problem it was overrated Flores and in my opinion Josh Allen is not special Nether is burrow

    • @eddydede4275
      @eddydede4275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol naw bro be real you put burrow or Allen on the dolphins with what we have I’m pretty sure were Super Bowl favorites. That being said I agree it was never Tua, Flores was overrated and exposed once McDaniel came and actually built an offense catered around his QB strengths. Which was what majority of teams in the league do. And if you don’t surround your QB with talent of course he’s going to look like a bust. So this whole debate is pretty disingenuous. QB’s will always be the most important position on a team and thus I have no issue with them being compensated. Should they be overpaid no but I’m not going to go crazy either if that’s what the market dictates and the owners are willing to spend the money

  • @cambridgesqaureboy
    @cambridgesqaureboy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Herbert will never have Tua’s accuracy and football IQ.

  • @mariogallego5513
    @mariogallego5513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    All I heard was Joy saying you dont write the checks so you cant have an opinion on the matter.

    • @xBruskie
      @xBruskie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not surprising since most NFL fans don't pay attention

    • @universe-ie2mk
      @universe-ie2mk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But she doesnt write the checks either but has an opinion.

    • @joeshoe6184
      @joeshoe6184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As she states her opinion on it lol

    • @bigt1640
      @bigt1640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might as well not have a show or have fans then since we not writing the checks Joy

  • @paulyc2468
    @paulyc2468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bruh! Joy really said Goff a bust yelled it about 5 times realized how dumb it was and was like noooo I didn't say that they said that 😂hahhaha!

    • @Elusivve
      @Elusivve 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She meant people were calling him a bust and that she always defended Goff

    • @michaeleberhart6590
      @michaeleberhart6590 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao crazy 😂😂😂

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She merit saying the mastitis was a bust. Thinking Shady heard it. And he didn't because he don't keep up with football

  • @emanuelbaxter285
    @emanuelbaxter285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m with Shady on this. The market is the market, but his examples were on point. The Giants paying Jones all that money, before Saquan, was crazy

  • @karisa1022
    @karisa1022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Go for it fishies! Tua, tyreek and waddle all eating up cap space, no room for anyone else. As a Bills fan, I say sweeeeep!!

  • @Semperityy
    @Semperityy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Shady funny dawg😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ricblic901
    @ricblic901 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So signing Tua will be the end for Hill, you have 2 players both WR's accounting for close to 60 million. Now throw in Tua at 55 million, is that doable?

  • @noredoosno2929
    @noredoosno2929 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Joy u did call him a bust LMAOO 😭

  • @johnripepijr.7858
    @johnripepijr.7858 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shady: “I don’t judge rookies”
    Shady: “BUT HE GOT BENCHED”
    😂🤣

  • @EnanoPancracio
    @EnanoPancracio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Come on shady, you can't be objecting that teams underpay running backs, a position with extremely limited shelf life, and minimize Baker Mayfield, a guy who won Cleveland's first playoff game in forever AND walloped your eagles on his "only okay" season.
    Not to mention, he's barely making 30 million a year, that's less than Daniel Jones despite being way more successful

  • @AM4LDawg
    @AM4LDawg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you put in perspective Mahomes contract through the 2025-2027 seasons, He’ll earn roughly $200,000,000. That’s about $66M/ yr. over 3 seasons. Back end heavy

  • @rogerallen2307
    @rogerallen2307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Any quarterback can be good with the Cincinnati bengals wideout

    • @orlandocardoza974
      @orlandocardoza974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same can be said about the Dolphins.

    • @rogerallen2307
      @rogerallen2307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s my point no one tells the truth about Joe burrow but they have no problem saying the obvious about tua . Tua not special stays hurt but burrow stays hurt just like tua same amount if not more but everyone says Joe burrow is the best or one of the best but tua average supposedly tua has never struggled in the nfl he a coach in Flores that should have never been a head coach once was fired my Dolphins hired real coach

  • @nevillecoley4976
    @nevillecoley4976 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Of course most QBs won’t win Super Bowls because super bowls aren’t won by QBs it’s won by franchises people have to stop acting like all you need is a QB

  • @marctipp
    @marctipp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t believe some of these QBs make more than Mahomes and Jackson. I’m blown away! 🤯

  • @Latrey69
    @Latrey69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tua second year he had two OC, the media said nothing, but when NE did it Bill was criticized all year long.

  • @LeadfootLou
    @LeadfootLou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes Tua is the next man up. He deserves next quarterback up type money. I would just limit the amount of years in the contract. Give him a 2 year 112 million dollar contract.

  • @scapegoat413
    @scapegoat413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Notice how the dolphins make the playoffs when Tyreek showed up…

    • @eddydede4275
      @eddydede4275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean after they finally built an offense catered to their QB’s strengths. No kidding lol let’s not act like one doesn’t exist without the other

    • @jamessanders145
      @jamessanders145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddydede4275 *an offense designed to mask his weaknesses

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hill left and came to play with Tua and has done better, duh.

  • @DenBover-pf7xk
    @DenBover-pf7xk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    16:45 shady got benched for 2 superbowl games. Bet it was NICE getting a ring for being a cheerleader

  • @bigguyinalittleboat7927
    @bigguyinalittleboat7927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Shady just reads headlines and doesn’t follow the league closely, there’s nuance to all of this he is oblivious too

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very oblivious

  • @Jake_Hoyt
    @Jake_Hoyt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They offered Saquon a contract during the bye before DJ...he said no...he wanted CMC money

  • @MrAllenVII
    @MrAllenVII 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joy was 100% right.
    •He's the Dolphins Franchise QB for the immediate future
    •The QB market is what it is
    •Goff was widely considered a bust by the masses

  • @tommiedshow9211
    @tommiedshow9211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Joy Taylor is such an annoying condescending 🤬

  • @jamalellis2389
    @jamalellis2389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No one discussed how hard it’ll be on there cap unless there okay losing pieces

  • @dreglass7405
    @dreglass7405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shady just be talking in circles about nothing

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely nothing bro

  • @jhonreydelacruz6945
    @jhonreydelacruz6945 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shady has a point. QB’s needs to get paid on their talent, not because they are in line in the market.

  • @starlightmomiji-ph7mb
    @starlightmomiji-ph7mb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you please add CHRIS BROUSSARD In this panel so he could educate Joy and Acho about how Tua is always good vs TOMATO CANS?

  • @jamalellis2389
    @jamalellis2389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m confused why Joe burrow get treated like he pat bro never available to play

  • @awakenedbyyhuhassembly6015
    @awakenedbyyhuhassembly6015 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Tua is not worth 51 mill

    • @Firestorm2814Sector
      @Firestorm2814Sector 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh well

    • @234summerville
      @234summerville 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Does anybody think they're worth the money that they making now 🤔 $40k, $60k, $100k, $150k??? If you're feel like you're under paid then maybe this is how your boss or peers sees you like you see these QBs

    • @thenewguy667
      @thenewguy667 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then neither is burrow or hurts , Herbert , Josh Allen .

    • @anthoneykarimbey6156
      @anthoneykarimbey6156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But Goff is worth it? 😂😂😂😂

    • @UprightCaucasoid
      @UprightCaucasoid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thenewguy667All of those guys are way more talented, successful, or both.

  • @supa72man
    @supa72man 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why I don't care too much for the sports media in the NE and West Coast. Tua is looked down on for everything and all the other QBs are very talented. Most of those QBs had talent on their teams and coaches to help them out. Tua came in against it all. No good coaching, no wrs, no rbs, o-line was trash and he's coming off of rehab from multiple injuries. No excuses, but facts. McCoy is so vague and watered down in his take I can't take you seriously. Athleticism looks good, but doesn't win often at QB position.