Roland TR-8S Explained
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- In todays video I show you how to make a beat on the TR-8S and explain the TR8S workflow. If you like my videos support them here: / bobeats
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I think it's the greatest drum machine of all time. The fact it's loaded with Roland's classic sounds and I can put samples of all the other drum sounds I want, use it live very easily, and set up whole shows in advance makes it a modern masterpiece. Don't need any other hardware drum machine (though as a Roland fan, I couldn't resist buying a TR-08 just for fun).
Funny I started watching this and got enthusiastic about the coffee maker in the start. Started researching the moccamaster instead.
Update: TR-8S in hand AS WELL AS a fine Technivorm Moccamaster.
seems to be the problem with everyone comming after these "boutique machines"
That's an epic coffee brewer. I used a twin Moccamaster once. That's the Rolls Royce of simple coffee brewers.
It's important to stay in the right end.... Imagine sitting there a Sunday morning, with a tr8 and no coffee 😳
Ya the coffee maker looks more interesting than this best. 😆
Good overview of a pretty complex piece of gear, thanks for the vid ! ~ Nice little groove on the fly with a new bit 'o' kit (btw). . . . Well done !
Nice! Glad you picked this up Bo!
Thank you! I love this machine and you have shown me a lot of valuable, easily digestible information. Peace!
Great video! I always learn so much from you. Definitely a new purchase for me here soon...
The time has come that I can add this to my set up!
Such an intuitive old school drum machine with modern features, love it!
Just did a noodle with 707 sounds, whoooaaa so close to an Oberheim.
Must say that the Digitakt has a more analogue sound to it. Yes I know, they both are digital, but the Digitakt has something in the DA converters and output stage that makes it sound different.
Swedish meatballs?
@@mikehydropneumatic2583: Do you still own both the TR-8S and the Digitakt? Currently deciding whether to buy the Rytm Mk2 *and* the TR-8S, which complements the analog sound of the Vermona DRM1. The Rtym can sound a lot like the DRM1, so I'm guessing they'd go together.
Awesome video well explained straight to the point! many thanks!
Waiting for mine to arrive, this week! Soaking up all the content I can! Thanks for this episode Bo!
Hey just wanted to say you’re an awesome person. I remember I emailed you last year as a complete newb asking about synths and hardware.
I never used any hardware before
Now I own an impulse command and eurorack and all this amazing hardware
Before last summer I barely knew it existed!
Thank you!!
Nice! If it had a headphone monitor for working on incoming patterns I would definitely buy one... Undecided at present
Andrew Young You could use a dj mixer. That’s what I currently have
This is the best run down of the TR-8s I’ve seen. I got one back in the spring, but I just now started playing it and love it. I’ll be able to get the most out of it now after watching this. I hate black and white instruction manuals, and this is exactly what I needed.
Thanks for this tutorial BoBeats, very useful!
sounds similar to me like of my blue electribe SD riffs, cool
This helped a lot! Great video :)
Great stuff as always BoBeats. I have watched and pressed like to more than 30 of your videos but i had not subscribed yet. Just fixed that. For some reason your videos always appeared in suggestions so i was under the impression that was because i was a sub. Thank you for all your extremely informative videos. They are extremely helpfull to those of us who are on tight budget and need to take the right decisions.
love your content Bo! Really helpful for beginners. Thankyou !
I got this machine when it was first released and I have to say it is an amazing machine IMO , i've owned tons of various drum machines and this one just seems to have a really great flow , it also is easy to set up with my modular system , and live the line in allows for a simple plug and go . My modular drum rack is obviously my most favourite , but i do not always get to travel with this , so this TR8S is a super drum companion .
Do you integrate it with a DAW? If so, how easy was it? At the moment I am using Logic to create techno, but really want to invest in a drum machine/sequencer, however I want it to integrate with Logic.
@@NickQuinn1986 If you are on a PC/Mac, it's as easy as installing the driver and then getting the audio in through USB. Each track is independent like Overbridge for Elektron gear.
This TR8S makes me realise just how great the Roland MV8000 and the later MV8800 were and still are. The MV's were proper drum samplers with phrase mode and song mode,they also had great effects and volume faders on the facia so that they could be used like the TR8S, and also run your whole studio via midi with a suitable midi interface . Incredible to realise you could pick up a secondhand MV for less than the price of the TR8S. After seeing this I would gladly pay more for the older now classic Roland MV's, yes they're bigger, but they are the real deal.
And they had Ableton-like "groove templates". I remember taking high hats and shuffling them into different grooves. It was good fun.
The real BIG deal. They were huge in size.
Really helpful. Thanks man
Hey Bo. Great beat! And thanks for the vids-always very informative. How does making beats on this compare with making beats with your modular drums?
Such a big difference. Worlds apart. Not better/worse just so different
looks fun!
Very much up your alley!
I godda say bo, your videos just keep getting better and better over time!
Thanks mate! I learn... slowly
great video, thanks so much!
that's cool
If you only have the TR-8 you can also make your beats gritty by selecting delay #8! This is a very short delay which sounds like you distorting your sounds!
No u cant
Hi brilliant channel. I'd love Linn Drum and would like to use the inbuilt patterns to trigger a vst instrument in ableton..and control the parameters of each sound/part of drum with the channel faders. I hope to then route the audio into roland mx1. Do you know if this has purely midi out control or a midi controller mode like its predecessor?
Great gear and video, can you load two kick in ? for mixing in Live performance
You helped alot. I am just starting.
Hey Bo great video, I am looking to buy a drum machine/sequencer and integrate with Logic. I was using the Maschine Mikro, which I enjoyed, but found it's integration with Logic pretty rubbish. Would you recommend the TR8S, and also, do you favour it over the old school stuff such as the TR8?
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Hello Bobeats. I hope you dont mind if I ask you a question.
But is it possible to use the arturia beatstep pro which has very sensitive pads instead of the instrument pad on the roland tr8s.?
I want to tap patterns into the roland tr8s in realtime but I dont like the tr8s pad , it is not sensitive enough.
I love your channel, but I have to be careful you make me want everything.
I bought the tr8s and the korg nts1 from watching your channel.
Anyway thanks and good night from Cork , Ireland.
Hi! Can you record and sequence external synths? I have a minilogue XD and a monosynth that I would like to sequence from the machine as I do now with the electribe 2. Thanks for the review!
Hei
Thx for great video really helping
One question , would it be possible to make a short video on how to integrate tr8s with cubase but nit using the audio interface , I use already an audio interface and can not use a second one.
Than you
Hi mate, great video, ot a question though around 8 minutes you change it up 2 semi tones, by holding a pattern button and then shift on the controle tuning knob. I cant seem to get this done. Can you explain please
Same question here for me - thanks for the great tutorial though - it's exactly what i needed
honestly i prefer the layout of the knobs and stuff better on this than the digitakt , but still i dont think id ever swap , i should have just saved for an octatrack
Hi , thanks for the video. can you set the tempo by tapping the beat rather than turning the nob?
Thank you! Nice explain!
It's a great machine with a lot of depth, I bought one a few months back when they were first announced. BUT the biggest omission, for me, is the lack of a Song Mode. Although you get 8 variations for each pattern, you can't put together an entire song, for example: Pattern one, repeat 16 times for the verse, Pattern 2 repeat 8 times for the chorus, pattern 3 to play a 2 bar fill, then go back to pattern 1 and play 16 times for a new verse. And so on. As it stands, the machine is too demanding on your time. You just want to set it running then get on with playing your other synths, or bass or guitar. But you keep having to go back to it to select the next set of patterns. So for the solo performer its a bit of a nuisance. If Roland can add a Song mode in their next firmware update, then I think it will complete the machine.
I agree. But as an alternative I guess you could use a sequencer via midi?
Thanks for this explanation. That was my big question. Is there any modern device that has a proper song mode as you described? I've been searching and thinking of getting an older midi sequencer. The DM1 app does it wonderfully, but I haven't been able to find hardware that works in this way.
hi, you can actually do that by chaining pattern 1,2 and 3 and chaining the number of variations(two or three variations with the same sequence. I hope it helps
That definitely helps. Thanks! Can you store those chains once you set them up?
@@justindrakecroft A great choice would be the Deluge, from Synthstrom Audible. It's a great little machine. The only thing I lack on that one are the faders but you can of course mute individual tracks. I guess my very personal "issue" is that I'm more familiar with DJing rather than producing my own music.... so for whatever reason I feel like I need faders! 😜🙈 Probably just a (bad) habit....
very nice explained :-) could you tell me how it is with odd meters and subdivisons ... is it possible to make for example a 7/4 pattern in Quintuplets? Or a 35/16 time measure (=the same :) And is it possible to play 2 patterns in a differnt speed at the same time? (not that i would need this everyday, just wondering and experimenting a lot) :-)
Definitiy a strong contender for my set up when I can aford it haha
It’s a shit situation to not having the funds to invest in this amazing device. 😩
Hi... Thank you for this complete video...
I will receive tr-8s as christmas gift, and i own a synth, the novation mininova. Do you know it? How can i trigger each other ? (Which connection or parameters)
Hi, thanks for the great TR 8S explanation.
Here is my question. I have a TR 8S, JP 08 and audio interface, and a Mac computer.
I am trying to put everything together but so far I can only hear my daw, and TR 8S. the sound from the JP 08 is only coming out of its own little speaker. I already selected RC or CC to be the channels out for the Jp08 , but nothing.
I am not sure if the issue is mu audio interface. can you help me resolve this issue? Thank you
Excelent video! i don`t know if buy a digitakt + launchcontrol xl or a beatstep pro(drums) + microbrute or rolant tr8s help! :(
I am very new to all this but am finding this video very helpful, but I am stuck when it comes to the Tuning section. I am not sure how to select and set the active instrument control knob to Coarse . I am able to find it in the options but am only able to control it via the Value knob and not set it to the CTRL knob for the active instrument.
Thanks ! a lot!
If you use this with a Digitack or a MPC live or something similar...how do you sequence / Use Midi ? Using the Internal Sequecer, Clock or using the External Sequencer / Clock ? Both of these options work ?
Can the tempo knob's brightness be adjusted? I read it is the case with faders and buttons, but not clear about this one. Thanks!
Hello I have a question, How many projects can you work on at once ?
Hey BB, this is one of your best grooves! You and this machine belong together, it should be the center of your groove world. Great video!
Hey Bo,
Thnx for the video. The Roland TR-8 was my first drumcomputer. Shortly after the TR-8S was on the market, so I swapped then.
I super fast workflow. But the samples are in my opinion overrated. Way to many work to program and assign them correctly.
Later on I bought a Digitakt and its workflow is in my opinion more complete. It’s main workflow is a little slower, it it has much more possibilities with the parameter locks, so it fits me more. So I just sampled the best TR-8S sounds in the Digitakt and I am now selling my TR-8S to make place for something else.
PS: your vids are improved very much lately! Keep up the good work. Like the new intro and the text in screen. 👍🏼
Thanks mate! Glad you are liking the efforts!!
Great primer on the instrument Bo. Thank you.
Quick question: when adding a melodic sound like synth or bass, what's your approach.... do you sacrifice a little used instrument (the same one all the time) to keep things simple?
Hi Bo, thank you for all the incredibly educational videos I thoroughly enjoy all the videos of of yours and learnt a lot as I'm new to synthesizers having been a guitarist most of my life. I know this is about the tr8s but I was thinking about getting the tr8 but I'm struggling to find out how to change settings so I can clock sync to a minilogue monologue or perhaps even a Volca though that's not as is important. I think I need to 2pq for my korg gear I believe. This option seems to be available in the update but I need to know it will work before I outlay the money as it is more expensive in New Zealand. Just one more thing, I'm trying to go dawless, I'm always looking at a PC, lol. Thank you for all your wonderful help, you are a very inspiring man. I hope you are having a lovely day
thank you sir. for the Minilogue, Monologue and *i think* Volcas you can just clock over midi :) use a midi splitter/thru to sync up a drum machine to multiple synths. kenton thru 5 for example
Hey do you still do those awesome live streams?
I had a break! Going to go back at it soon
I'm looking to buy a machine for making more complexe rythms with my roland MC 505, shall i get an electribe 2 or a TR8s ? and why ? or anything else ?
Do you happen to know if the TR-8S has balanced or unbalanced outputs? They never specify in the manual. Which type cable do you recommend I connect the unit to a Focusrite Scarlett? Currently using TS to XLR - does it matter?
Can you show us how to make kits from samples?
I didnt read all the 100+ comments but wanted to ask. I'm considering buying this or the Roland 808 controller. Will the TR8S be able to connect to my Pioneer DDJ-Sz2 to make live or recorded remixes? Also, is this drum machine Virtual DJ Pro compatible? Thank you!
I guess what I'm asking is can sync a beat to a song from my library using the TR8S...
Does this have bass synths samples to choose from as well?
Really considering getting one. It seems it can be used as a MIDI (out) controller, but can MIDI (in) be used to control it? Like if I hook up a 4x4 drum pad controller, can I use that to live play all 11 tracks at once?
Lot of great info in here, good instruction. But sorry that reflection on the screen was a real killer for me.
Hello Bo (and followers)! :)
Some months ago I bought an APC-40mk2 in order to have individual faders for each instrument of my virtual drum machines in Ableton Live. While overall it's not a bad controller, in my opinion the faders have too much lag/latency.
This is why I was looking into the TR-8S for quite some time (but still didn't pull the trigger). I'm still not clear about how good it is and if it's worth the money. (How big or small is the lag between pulling up/down the fader one the impact on the sound. Can it be comparer with a soundsource on a regular DJ Mixer or is it slower?)
Any feedback and your opinion(s) will be highly appreciated!
Thanks a lot and keep up the good work! :)
Hey! The tr8s is very responsive and quick. Like a mixer I’d say
@@BoBeats Thanks a lot for the reply! Maybe it's time for some new gear then.... ;-)
Killer beat tbh. The TR8S seems interesting but if I were inclined to buy a Drum Machine/sampler right now I'd opt for the Digitakt. I'll think about it after I buy my Digitone. :v
Mr. Beats, HELP! One of the selling points that got me, is the fact that you can run all tracks separately over USB into your DAW. Problem: every minute or so, a horrible distortion creeps over the sound. Any XP with this? Any fixes?
I use it with a Mac but I have not tried the multitracking yet. I would check ”samples” or buffer settings for the unit. Usually when noise creeps in there can be an issue with too low sample setting (audio interface settings)
I like almost all fueature of this unit. Preloaded samples, sd card, working as midi controller.Only wownside would be small pads you could not use two fingers to do rolls.
Has anyone got some idea how to go around it without diving in menu too much?
wowerman there is a function to sequence the rolls but if you want to play them in the performance pad on the right would be best probably.
do you find it limiting that there is no unquantized option? it doesn't seem like you can create a looser feel or get too abstract. is there a drum machine with the same sound quality but more rhythmic freedom?
Yeah this can be a bit annoying
Elektron Rytm
Does this have any kits for hip hop?
I mean that you can use?
Can you import kits from other machines?
Can you import samples?
Can it do unquantized recording?
When was the latest update for the tr-8s? Thanx for answer…
So I'd like to use it more as a midi pattern generator for using with VST drum kits.
Dude if you just want a hardware step sequencer to input into your computer, you could go for a trigger finger pro, saves 16 patterns I believe, and nice pads, or the beat step/ beat step pro! Trigger finger has the same x0x style note entry. But hey if you want the sounds, then tr-8 or tr-8s is nice too!
I just picked one of these up. I know nothing about anything music related. Question for ya- where do people find lots of drum patches...like every drum knowns to man? Tks!
If you mean samples I would check Samples from Mars
Do you know the difference between this and the other Roland auria tr8
Are there preinstalled sounds built in? Or do you have to load sounds?
There are tons of classic Roland drum sounds already in but you can load samples as well
does it emulate the classic 909 kick "swing"?
Does the TR8s feature the scatter function?
Basicly, what is different from TR-8 is that TR-8S can use different samples? S for samles?
yes you can create sample kits even. now it has some Fm engine also.
what was going on at 16:25 ? did you triple press B+C+D and then F+G+H?
This video makes my decision to get a digitakt so much harder. Does this have an audio in for sampling or sdcard only?
Sd card only
@@BoBeats thanks. It's between this and the digitakt for me. Want something mainly for more complex drum patterns and this is a rough choice.
how you undo a motion secuence?
thank you!
Can you record live without quantization?
A. Cazanacli good question, did you find out
Jazz thingie . . . !
How do I map course tuning to the CTRL SELECT button?
Hey Bo, do you think I should sell my TR-8 and invest in this Machine? Is it worth the step up?
Havnt used the tr8 much so very hard for me to say
if you want samples and individual outs then yes
You can load samples and that’s cool BUT I could only get about 200 one shots and FX sounds on mine.
new to this tr8s - how if i can, save what i have made?
What kit did you start with?
TR8S+Octatrack Mk2 anyone? I imagine using the assignable direct outs on the TR8S into the OctaTrack might yield some interesting mangling and FX possibilities.
Great idea!
Yes I'm doing it, but not with audio coming back into Octa...I'm sure that would be great. I just have it sync'd to the Octa's clock. The biggest problem in a set up like this is that when you send a program change message to the the TR-8S, there is a 1 bar offset between the pattern change and the kit change, for reasons I can't fathom. Also you can't change variations via MIDI and no song mode, so you effectively have to rememebr where you are in your song/set and manually triggering everything.
Did you read every word in the manual before you did this video? I would like to know if I'm right.
all but one
@@BoBeats Cool..ill stay subbed..hell i aint going anywhere this is one of the best on you tube on this device
"We can beetroot juice" - suddenly, I flick back from the other tab I was reading to find out why Bo is talking about beetroot juice. Rewind: "We can bit-reduce". Oh...
😂😎
can audio samples be imported? max length? size limited?
Hey can anyone give me advice in regards to putting samples on the SD card and loading them into the machine?
put the sd card in the machine, format sd, hold shift while plugging it into the pc, open it like you would open a flash drive, drag and drop and youre golden. I know Im late but i just bought it recently.
only sliders for muting or is there a mute button/mode?
Matthew Moskal The mute button is under the big tempo knob.
Does the MC-707 contain all the TR-8s functions? I was looking for a drum machine and found the TR-8s.... but then got sidetracked with the MC-707. Which would you choose?
No. Mc707 is zen core technology and tr8s is ACB which sounds a bit better for pure drums
@@BoBeats thanks! I found a cheap $400AUD TR8 here in Aust thats been updated to include 606, 707, 727 as well... is the TR-8s worth spending another $800AUD on top of that? Thanks Bo for your answers :) Ha de så gott ;
very frustrated :0/ at 7:56 you change the tone 2 semi tones but didn't show how you can lock that in on a different sequence. all the changes I make aren't reflected in the different patterns. for example if on seq A I have the bass resting on an Ab and then on seq B I move it to an Eb, the bass stays on Eb the rest of the sequences a,cd,e,f,g . how do you lock each change in the different sequences please?
So if I understand you correctly: these locks are like an automation curve. This means you have to set them for every step you want a different pitch. Step 1: C. Step 2: will be C unless locked. So when you switch to a new pattern (is this what you mean by sequence?) you have to lock it again.
BoBeats I was able to figure it out. In your video a few frames were missing at 7:56. I pressed the instrument button and tuned the pitch and then released it, locking it in. Great video, helped a lot. Gave it a thumbs up.
There’s one more question I have. Is there a way to program for example sequence A to have say, r passes then move to B for 2 passes, then back to A, and maybe alternate through the other sequences as well?
The buttons seem very noisy when you push them. Do they seem noisy to you in person?
Not too bad. Not silent but not too bad. Mic + compressor makes them seem worse
Gated reverb?
Which one should i buy, analog rytm mk1 or Tr8s ? Im struggling since one week with this decision
I want the Drummachine which gives me the most sound opportunities
Analog Rytm Mk1 is by far the deepest one. And best sounding. If you can find an MK1 in good condition for a good price it would be my pick
Thanks a lot buddy!!
Is the mk2 version worth the Money ? I can get a mk1 in good conditions for 800€ and a Mk2 for 1529€ .. I like the live sampling function but the question is: do I want to pay almost the double price for this function.. I really don't know
pleaseeeee connections! How can you connect with keystep pro :(
Through the midi port...
Great machine but I still prefer the Digitakt over the TR-8s. Though for live performances the TR-8s might have the edge. You can't go wrong with either, it is just a matter of preference. I'd like to have both, so if somebody wants to donate their TR-8s I will take it!
Just got a DrumBrute Impact, very intuitive good sounding and well build machine.
I also prefer the Digitakt. Way more mangling/sound shaping options and a much deeper sequencer. The Rytm Mk2 is the ultimate, though. Pretty much does what a digitakt does, plus an analog drum machine that you can process and resample in the box.
I still prefer Digitakt but for a large setup I can also really dig Impact and Tr8s for the more hands on workflow
Have you tried the Moog DFAM? I still need to get my hands on one, but then I probably will buy it as well.
Mike Hydropneumatic DFAM is awesome but can be very tricky to tune outside of an eurorack system , without a quantizer. But if you build your song « around « the dfam it becomes an instant gratification dark techno machine. For live performances i use the dfam for specific parts :kicks or hats etc and i play its basses with the digitakt fully loaded with dfam samples. But you still can take one dfam and a bunch of guitar pedals and you can perform a whole industrial techno set lol
whynobody cant use gates on back sides ecept triger out gate
I have a question what is the main reason to use hardware?
To make music. ;)
Do you need a TR-8s if you have a Push 2?
If you want to have a drum machine :-) then yes, it could be good fun
I have them sitting next to a Prophet Rev 2 in my studio. So, yes, yes you do.
I like the fact that having a drum machine helps you appreciate and be satisfied with the beat you made. Push & live is great but with endless possibilities it is super hard to know when you are done and not all over the place
Did they fix the latency issues?
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