yeah very strange. although it do feel the non-sharpness in the sony image also looks more like motion blur. they're shot at 1/40 with 70mm, not sure how steady they managed to hold it, probably used tripod but yeah, very strange
It's nice to see you and Tony out and about! Thanks for the great review. Unfortunately, I scratched the lens on my Sony 24-70 gm II (ouch) on a recent photo safari. This is a solid case in point for a filter (woulda coulda shoulda). I am not a pro, but a pretty good hobbyist. At any rate, the reviews from all my trusted TH-camrs have convinced me not to spend the extra $1k on another Sony GM. I pre-ordered the Sigma. I'm pretty sure it will be everything I need it to be based on the glowing reviews.
I've got a Sigma 24-70 for Nikon, purchased 8 years ago. I have no complaints about the photo results, but the WEIGHT! I feel like I'm lugging around a lead brick.
2:07 - this isnt missed focus, thats motion blur dude... we saw you spin around like a crazy duck and 1/125th of a second at 70mm is just not enough when moving that much. And the flash did nothing to freeze motion, it just added a tiny amount of fill light and a catchlight for the eye.
Looks amazing, but I wonder if it is compact enough to trade my 28-70mm F2.8 by Sigma for. It's small and compact, but doesn't have 24mm. I primarily use the Tamron 35-150, but reach for the Sigma when I need a lighter setup.
Maybe it is just me but, in every one of the examples that Tony showed, I favored the Sigma! And I definitely am upset at Sony for the bs fps limitation implemented by Sony! Great review T&C!
Thx for the great review Toni/Chelsea, yes Sigma has really been pushing this new 24-70 vs the 24-70 GM 2 , i went to the photo shop where i bought my A74 from and checked out both lenses from Sigma and Sony, even the old timer working there said, the Sigma id definitely cheaper and heavier than the Sony, its just not quite up to the G-Master lens and agreed with him after my comparison between them, I have severe bilateral carpal tunnel so i need to have something lite weight when shooting handheld and i found using the Sony i didn't have that issue, so I'll have enough in the fall and get the Sony , to me its just that touch better in the end for my uses 👍
what about the dust resistance ???? At Sigma 24 70 no1 was very easy to dust dots to came inside the glass, like ridiculous easy. Like , one walk at the park was enough..
Hi we need comparison for the sigma 24-70 mark ii between sony 24-70 mark i and sigma 24-70 mark i and please no need to compare to tamron I don’t feel it compared anyway.
Both Sigma’s are better then the GM I. The Sigma 24-70 II has faster autofocus and is lighter but its image quality performs similar to the first version with some improvements
Dust issue was fixed in later versions of MKI. If you have an issue with dust send it in, they will clean and replace the problematic seal. I had a later version of the MKI, no dust issues.
The best overall lens is the Tamron 35-150. Period. Do miss a bit of width, but more than makes up for it over the 28-70 by being faster and longer. Just wish it weren’t as big as it is.
I own the old Sigma 24-70 F2.8. From reading and watching reviews, the new lens is slightly smaller, lighter, slightly sharper, faster focusing. Has the aperture dial added, probably has better WR so hopefully less prone to dust. My version has some dust in, not excessive and does not show in photos but it's there. I believe things like coma and loca are also better. It's just a little better in every way. The thing is the Mk1 is still a great lens and extremely sharp. So I don't see myself upgrading. The jump in performance is just not worth spending that money again and taking the hit on what I paid for the Mk1 selling. As the market is probably going to be flooded with Mk1s at a good discount soon. If I were buying a 24-70 right now and didn't own one, yes I'd be getting the Mk2. I think Sony GM lenses are honestly a rip off.
What sells me most on the DG DN ll is the close up shot ability. I never was able to get around to getting the MK1 but im definitely making sure i get the new version.
No, it's the sensor. It's the phase detect grid being shown. This is a known artefact at high Fstops shooting into harsh light/contrasting light conditions. It's the exact reason Panasonic argued they didn't want to use phase detect on their sensors for so many years.
Interesting that the Gitzo tripod has basically all the same design elements of the 3LT travel tripod that was so unusable, like the twist lock legs and the 3 knob (including clamp) ball head!!! I personally use a Giottos travel tripod that is basically identical but swapped the receiver to a lever lock unit that is full arca/swiss compatible for lens mounts, L brackets etc that the old manfrotto cannot use. It seems like Sigma is still suffering from focus issues that they are kinda known for, shame. To me the 70mm on the Sigma looked a tad sharper...
Should have used it to capture milkyway shots and compared results with the sony lens its going up against. That's the genre where this kind of lens primarily excels at.
After so many years Tonny still didn't learn how to shoot pixel shift. Tonny get a good tripod and good ballhead and practice ... ;) NY is stable enough.
Tony please work w Sigma on a fix for the autofocus issue. This is important. UPDATE: Have you heard from Sigma regarding the autofocus issue? Was is a bad lens? Not final firmware? Hoping to hear good news. Thank you.
So, sharpness and corners are a wash. Based more on the sample you buy. Sigma is much much worse at LOCA. Sigma has more distortion. Sony worse against bright light. Sony has better close up capability however. You did not take shots with the Sony at 70mm. Pick your poison. I already picked Sony
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"At 300% I really can't tell a difference between the two"... Blatantly obvious the Sigma was sharper lol.
He's obviously taking sides with sony, that was an obvious win for sigma in sharpness category, and the flair was just more than perfect on the sigma
That's what I thought too.
yeah very strange. although it do feel the non-sharpness in the sony image also looks more like motion blur. they're shot at 1/40 with 70mm, not sure how steady they managed to hold it, probably used tripod but yeah, very strange
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this straight away 😂
I notice this a lot in reviews, not just these two.
Me opening my YT feed: Sigma Sigma Sigma Sigma Sigma Sigma
The portraits near the start show clear motion blur rather than missing focus. You either had a bit of camera shake or not fast enough shutter.
Those "missed the focus" shots looks like motion blur - sure you and Chelsea were steady enough to shoot at 1/125 at 70mm with Sony IBIS?
sigma looks sharper, on 24mm not too much, but on 70mm very clear.. tony:"no significant difference"
Yeah, the ornament as well as the wall right to the lamp is clearly sharper on Sigma, at least in this comparison at 3:12.
he is blind
Dude must be paid by Sony because the Sigma was sharper on both ends clearly
Right lol. I was like am i trippin?
I still got dust and debris in my new sigma 24-70mm f2.8 ART II. I was told it won't show up in my pictures. But to me that's not the point.
It's nice to see you and Tony out and about! Thanks for the great review. Unfortunately, I scratched the lens on my Sony 24-70 gm II (ouch) on a recent photo safari. This is a solid case in point for a filter (woulda coulda shoulda). I am not a pro, but a pretty good hobbyist. At any rate, the reviews from all my trusted TH-camrs have convinced me not to spend the extra $1k on another Sony GM. I pre-ordered the Sigma. I'm pretty sure it will be everything I need it to be based on the glowing reviews.
Shush! Don't mention scratching the lens or all the anti-filter mob will jump on you for not pretending that no one needs a filter.
Great comparison! question: does both lenses keep the maximum aperture all the way to 70?
I've got a Sigma 24-70 for Nikon, purchased 8 years ago. I have no complaints about the photo results, but the WEIGHT! I feel like I'm lugging around a lead brick.
Using it on dslr? Or miroless camera?
@@aleksandrtkachuk9286 Bought it for a DSLR, but now using it on my mirrorless Z6ii
2:07 - this isnt missed focus, thats motion blur dude... we saw you spin around like a crazy duck and 1/125th of a second at 70mm is just not enough when moving that much. And the flash did nothing to freeze motion, it just added a tiny amount of fill light and a catchlight for the eye.
That’s what I thought dude was panning whilst clicking lmao
@@Nobodytoday12 like a maniac
Looks amazing, but I wonder if it is compact enough to trade my 28-70mm F2.8 by Sigma for. It's small and compact, but doesn't have 24mm. I primarily use the Tamron 35-150, but reach for the Sigma when I need a lighter setup.
Same question here
Compactness is not the job of an art lens.
Keep the 28-70 if you like it.
Maybe it is just me but, in every one of the examples that Tony showed, I favored the Sigma! And I definitely am upset at Sony for the bs fps limitation implemented by Sony! Great review T&C!
Tony, what was the ND stop of light was that 82mm Maven filter?
what about comparing it (SirgmaArt2470 II) vs the SEL2470GM (First series) as they cost kind of the same now..??
Thx for the great review Toni/Chelsea, yes Sigma has really been pushing this new 24-70 vs the 24-70 GM 2 , i went to the photo shop where i bought my A74 from and checked out both lenses from Sigma and Sony, even the old timer working there said, the Sigma id definitely cheaper and heavier than the Sony, its just not quite up to the G-Master lens and agreed with him after my comparison between them, I have severe bilateral carpal tunnel so i need to have something lite weight when shooting handheld and i found using the Sony i didn't have that issue, so I'll have enough in the fall and get the Sony , to me its just that touch better in the end for my uses 👍
Sony GMii may be better but not $1100 better.
What are you using for your drone shots?
Thank you for the helpful comparative review!
Hello, if you a Lens Sony 24-105 F4 do you buy this New sigma's Lens?
what about the dust resistance ????
At Sigma 24 70 no1 was very easy to dust dots to came inside the glass, like ridiculous easy. Like , one walk at the park was enough..
Sigma said, ver.2 they have fixed dust issue
@@LeeXuan88 hope show ..time will tell !
cheers from Greece !!
Thanks for the Review 💯
Hi we need comparison for the sigma 24-70 mark ii between sony 24-70 mark i and sigma 24-70 mark i and please no need to compare to tamron I don’t feel it compared anyway.
Both Sigma’s are better then the GM I. The Sigma 24-70 II has faster autofocus and is lighter but its image quality performs similar to the first version with some improvements
Is it the Godox V1 Pro?
It's a Flashpoint.... Adorama's version of the Godox V1
Have they fixed the dust issues of the MKI ?
Dust FEATURE of the MkI. It's like a FREE black promist, but bigger and more spotty.
Dust issue was fixed in later versions of MKI. If you have an issue with dust send it in, they will clean and replace the problematic seal.
I had a later version of the MKI, no dust issues.
If I didn't already have the Sony 24-70 GM II, I would probably buy the Sigma. Looks like a great lens for the price.
24-70 2.8 the best portrait lens?
Outstanding review 👏
Would you get rid of the MK I and get the MK II? Is there enough difference?
Sure!
Best all around lens is the Tamron 35-150mm
Thumbs up for Maven Filters! I recognized it by the color before you said it.
thank you
The best overall lens is the Tamron 35-150. Period. Do miss a bit of width, but more than makes up for it over the 28-70 by being faster and longer. Just wish it weren’t as big as it is.
Are you guys going to cover the firmware update to the Sony A1?
Love the sound and this vibe
Hey how do you all clean the defusion material on your softbox? 🤔
What are the difference from old Sigma 24-70 f2.8?
I own the old Sigma 24-70 F2.8. From reading and watching reviews, the new lens is slightly smaller, lighter, slightly sharper, faster focusing. Has the aperture dial added, probably has better WR so hopefully less prone to dust. My version has some dust in, not excessive and does not show in photos but it's there. I believe things like coma and loca are also better.
It's just a little better in every way.
The thing is the Mk1 is still a great lens and extremely sharp. So I don't see myself upgrading. The jump in performance is just not worth spending that money again and taking the hit on what I paid for the Mk1 selling. As the market is probably going to be flooded with Mk1s at a good discount soon.
If I were buying a 24-70 right now and didn't own one, yes I'd be getting the Mk2. I think Sony GM lenses are honestly a rip off.
What sells me most on the DG DN ll is the close up shot ability. I never was able to get around to getting the MK1 but im definitely making sure i get the new version.
Love my Sigma’s. Although my Sigma 70-200 2.8 is so heavy.
What kind of flash do yiu use? Link? Thanks
Just got back from Japan, if you’re coming out this way hopefully you can do a meet and greet.
Hi Tony i am looking for mirrorless camera for family photo, but i want interchangeable lens, any recommendation pls.
thanks
the color spots of the star in the Washington Square Arch image are mostly caused by dust on the lens. Some lenses are more prone to this than others.
No, it's the sensor. It's the phase detect grid being shown. This is a known artefact at high Fstops shooting into harsh light/contrasting light conditions. It's the exact reason Panasonic argued they didn't want to use phase detect on their sensors for so many years.
@@thegeneral123 thank you for your response. So let's agree that it's not a lens problem... :-)
I’m really not crazy about the tapering towards the mount with Sigma. Feels like unnecessary addition of size and weight
Interesting that the Gitzo tripod has basically all the same design elements of the 3LT travel tripod that was so unusable, like the twist lock legs and the 3 knob (including clamp) ball head!!! I personally use a Giottos travel tripod that is basically identical but swapped the receiver to a lever lock unit that is full arca/swiss compatible for lens mounts, L brackets etc that the old manfrotto cannot use. It seems like Sigma is still suffering from focus issues that they are kinda known for, shame. To me the 70mm on the Sigma looked a tad sharper...
is it compatible in 90d cannon?
Great review! Comments: (1) Sigma color a little too warm to me. (2) Eye autofocus: Maybe a firmware update for the fix?
Good review...especially noticing the autofocus is not quite up to the level of the GM. I just got the A9iii, so I'll be passing on the Sigma.
motion blur now bad autofocus... :D 2:07
Sigma has done a great job. Ir is an insane lens at a much better price.
You never mentioned landscapes.......guessing great?
Should have used it to capture milkyway shots and compared results with the sony lens its going up against. That's the genre where this kind of lens primarily excels at.
For portrait, you could go manual and use focus peaking, no?
You could grab pencil and sketch pad, no?
Does the sigma 24-70 dn ii fit in the sony A6400?
Yes
xxoo tony ,I love ur HDR!!!
Sigma looks better in every instance.
Wow! Now make it z mount with the aperture ring Sigma.
After so many years Tonny still didn't learn how to shoot pixel shift. Tonny get a good tripod and good ballhead and practice ... ;) NY is stable enough.
the Simga i sharper :) its obvous at a 43 inch screen , 50 cm from the front .
Tony please work w Sigma on a fix for the autofocus issue. This is important.
UPDATE: Have you heard from Sigma regarding the autofocus issue? Was is a bad lens? Not final firmware? Hoping to hear good news. Thank you.
Hoping to hear about this as well!
not sure if it was an autofocus issue, looked like motion blur
there isnt one
24-70 is the perfect portrait lens?
lol, no
Buy this or for the 1200 buy 2 used in mint condition , sigma 35 1.4 and Sony 20 1.8
Hey Tony, what's your backpack in this video?
If you are going to shoot like a fool, how are you going to miss focus?
How do these lens perform for video shooting? Can't tell if sigma was sharper or if the first few examples were out of focus on the sony
So, sharpness and corners are a wash. Based more on the sample you buy. Sigma is much much worse at LOCA. Sigma has more distortion. Sony worse against bright light. Sony has better close up capability however. You did not take shots with the Sony at 70mm. Pick your poison. I already picked Sony
Bro are u kiddin? :)))) how the hell can t you see the sigma is sharper?
I thought I recognized the guy you showed the camera to at around 6:50. Was that Eugene?
Just not a fan of the Sony image. Looks like an iPhone.
you Fujifilm and pentax looks like iPhone
Why is Chelsea doing the TikTok hold the lav mic technique?
You are focusing on the wrong thing cuz who cares
i,m tag 1k
Morning 🌄
that was a good honest review👍
Im happy with my good old Tamron
SUCKS! design
Can you elaborate or you just gonna sound like a caveman