Porsche Macan GTS | For The Select Few

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  • We review the 2021 Porsche Macan GTS, the enthusiast trim level. We discuss the compromises introduced to make a crossover a "sports car" and vice versa. This is still a Porsche that carries a higher price tag and increased expectations. With other vehicles like the BMW X3, X5, Alfa Stelvio, Jaguar F-Pace, Audi Q5, and, Genesis GV70 it's a hard choice.
    #suv #porsche #macan
    Index:
    00:00 - 00:23 Intro
    00:23 - 3:31 Interior Impressions
    3:31 - 7:44 Intro Reprise and Mechanical Impressions - Front Suspension and Body
    7:44 - 12:56 Driving Impressions
    12:56 Final Thoughts
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  • @Closertotruth2
    @Closertotruth2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +637

    Buying a Macan S in December of 2014 as my first Porsche product was a huge financial mistake. My experience with it caused me to buy multiple Porsche sports cars of which I currently own 5. Still have the Macan.

    • @swisher5weet
      @swisher5weet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Sounds terrible 🤣

    • @v8_sami
      @v8_sami 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lmfao

    • @ericsade5961
      @ericsade5961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Haha this didn't go where I thought it was going...

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ericsade5961 you can't go wrong with *VAG*

    • @thelarry383
      @thelarry383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@dragospahontu yes you can lmao.

  • @dBsdecibels
    @dBsdecibels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    Savage Geese turned me into such an audiophile snob that I can no longer stand the sound of my own voice.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a good one, I figured out that my VW hurts my ears because of the distortion.

  • @siaoguai
    @siaoguai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    Yes, physical switch all the way. Mark is not a fan of it, probably only because he hasn't develop the muscle memory for it. When the driver develops the muscle memory for these switches, physical really is the way to go.

    • @juanordonezgalban2278
      @juanordonezgalban2278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That center dash area was beautifull, and in my opinion having a cuadrillion buttons only makes the car feel more special.

    • @jordankelly4684
      @jordankelly4684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mark literally always complains when there aren't physical switches

    • @Neil4Speed
      @Neil4Speed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I love the stack in the Porsche. The haptic in the new models feels cheap and gets smudged the second you touch it. "Get used to it" is also over blown, it takes literally one drive and you know how to use the functions.

    • @davidmccarthy6061
      @davidmccarthy6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But really, it's like the new Vette. That's a lot of buttons.

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, by all means, a quadrillion buttons is almost the VW definition of Ergonomics

  • @andrelima5124
    @andrelima5124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    NO dumb piano black is already a reason to consider this over it's competition 😂

    • @speakingtruths4215
      @speakingtruths4215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not when the alternative is even worse. You can probably count on one hand the number of customers who want cheap plastic in their 90k SUV.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speakingtruths4215 there's this guy in Romania who lined the boot of his GLE Coupe in piano black, I'll try to find the video.

    • @WhiteLivesMatterPL
      @WhiteLivesMatterPL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dragospahontu do it!

    • @NiceBowser
      @NiceBowser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Piano black is annoying; however, it's something that can easily be fixed with some vinyl wrap.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Piano black only became popular when it was decided silver plastic was tacky. That had replaced leather-grained black plastic, which replaced fake wood. Manufacturers need to put something on those plastic surfaces, and they really can't afford to put brushed metal or real wood veneer everywhere. So far, piano black is seen by most buyers as classy, though it really is a dust magnet, even in places it doesn't attract fingerprints.

  • @anthonybertrand6529
    @anthonybertrand6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    This is the perfect vehicle for the person with only one parking spot

    • @BlackObs
      @BlackObs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly what I've been thinking. Sure, if I had an extra parking spot I'd buy a CX-5 and a Miata (or a 981 Boxster GTS). But I don't, and I'm not interested in the hassle of off-site car storage, so here I am watching all of Mark's Macan reviews and planning to go drive one when the snow melts.

    • @kazeerulaz
      @kazeerulaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thats why i ordered one last week. I don‘t have the possibility for a 2nd parking slot and I have a son. So it is the ideal car for me, although initially I would prefer a 911 or cayman gts 4.0

    • @The_Stanman
      @The_Stanman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said

  • @dougrobinson8602
    @dougrobinson8602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I hit like when Steven Seagal came up on the infotainment.

    • @TheBlackD
      @TheBlackD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Scrolled down for this. Wasn't disapointed

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheBlackD that guy is legit

    • @tomtom255
      @tomtom255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Songs from the crystal caves 😂

    • @bananamancoolguy7670
      @bananamancoolguy7670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      took me a second watch through to pick up the steven seagull and brie larceny references. fantastic. are those standard or do they cost extra?

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh you beat me to it 😂
      Only a man of culture can appreciate the sweet tones of Sensei Seagal

  • @PressurenFlames
    @PressurenFlames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    As an engineer who has worked on the Macan's development in Weissach I only can tell that this car is awesome and no SQ5 is even near the performance levels of it.
    Small story: The development of the hood (incl. the openings for the headlights) was a pain in the ass regarding tolerances & rubbing off the headlight sealing during long term closure test (and still was issue in production as I was told by a friend). The air intake section was redesigned (some of the combs needed to be "closed" and nearly caused big problems with intake temperatures in hot countries) due to failed Thatcham break in test.
    These guys are really creative when it comes to breaking inside a vehicle. They did it in the Macan by going through the grill with a pre-bent steel wire, going upwards through the center intake (the mesh you see @6:20) to the hood latch release mechanism.

    • @povertyspec9651
      @povertyspec9651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is Thatcham?

    • @price9195
      @price9195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's cool you worked on it but then it kinda died...

  • @Wanderer25
    @Wanderer25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I like the buttons galore. Can't stand those touchscreen with 8 submenues to just change the fan speed.

    • @lancecahill5486
      @lancecahill5486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yep. Especially when you are trying to keep your eyes on the road.

    • @ARentz07
      @ARentz07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Those buttons are nice and clicky, too. Very satisfying to use.

  • @Scorpio1075
    @Scorpio1075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I like that they can admit when a car isn't for them, but they get why it's a good car. I've owned a Cayman S, 911 4S, and a Macan S, while the Macan S isn't a sports car, it is hands down the best road trip car I've ever owned!

  • @ccollins_24
    @ccollins_24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    My goodness, the intro shots are just magnificent!

  • @mitchellsteindler
    @mitchellsteindler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This IS a drivers car. Theres more to driving then a two seat sports car on a perfect road on a perfect day. This is fun to drive more of the time.

    • @madgainz7871
      @madgainz7871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly. These SUV are fun, quick and can be driven in any condition.

    • @velvetjones1856
      @velvetjones1856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My Macan Turbo turned into a corner harder than my 2014 M5. Very amazing car. It was hot the performance package which is now standard for turbo.

    • @jeffreysalzman1497
      @jeffreysalzman1497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You may have a point, it feels like it has been forever since I could drive my 68 Falcon.

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@velvetjones1856 depends on generations. The new M5 CS for example is probably going to be up there with Tesla's plaid as the fastest 4 door car around the Nurburgring. The older M5 wasn't as track focused as BMW has started to become

    • @The_Stanman
      @The_Stanman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@velvetjones1856 yeah I owned and lots of seat time in an M5 and this is absolutely true

  • @stevemassarone1470
    @stevemassarone1470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    “My third wife is gona love this thing” lmao you guys kill it !

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      While his Asian wife probably likes something spicier.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      His second wife's alimony will force him to sell it and buy a Kia Rio.

  • @dragospahontu
    @dragospahontu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    *If it doesn't have a 15" screen, 22" rims, and piano black steering wheel I'm not interested*

    • @wbae1340
      @wbae1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not funny, and your are like 12 so extra not funny

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@wbae1340 55 people say otherwise to the triggered Audi owner

    • @warphace
      @warphace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I demand a floating roof!!!

    • @wbae1340
      @wbae1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@papa_pt this channel is swarmed with middle schoolers...

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And no physical buttons don't forget that

  • @ghowells5433
    @ghowells5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great video. I have a 991.2 gt3 and have always had a hot hatch as my daily. I had a Macan GTS as a courtesy car and loved it so bought a 2020 Macan GTS last year and blown away by the luxury, build, handling, performance and durability. Brilliant all rounder

  • @Alexbuilt
    @Alexbuilt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Im just upset you dont have over a million subscribers. No other review channel compares at all. Im convinced the reason is because the general population cant comprehend these comprehensive reviews. Keep up the good work

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Top Gear devolved into a car shoe for the general population. God forbid the Geese sell their souls in like manner.

  • @chuynh207
    @chuynh207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Why this car exist?"
    Well, for me and me only, the Macan GTS represents everything I would want in a car (or CUV). It sits higher than a Cayman/911, so I don't have to worry about potholes, speed bumps, steep driveways, etc. It is sporty enough (especially with air suspension lowered and PASM on its stiffest setting) that I can take on a backroad and have a lot of fun. It is also comfortable enough so I can do a 10 hour road trip and not be extremely fatigued (did a three hour road trip in my old GT4 and by the time I was done, I was ready to sell the car).
    It does everything I need it to do and I can have fun in it. It's a good looking Porsche vehicle that drives and handles very well. Steering is amazing and although it's not 100% like a 911, it's still very "Porsche" like. Not to mention it has "usable" backseats and a large enough trunk to carry groceries and suitcases.

    • @joelgreer2552
      @joelgreer2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a Cayman GTS and a Grand Cherokee and frankly this is a top notch blend of them both. I get my basic SUV needs met and still have a daily driver that I absolutely enjoy getting into every time I drive as I always have with the Cayman. Consolidating cars and still being 100% satsified with what I'm driving is something I think only the Macan fills for me. I'm trading in my two for the Macan GTS.

  • @Tdfries
    @Tdfries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To answer your question about WHY someone would want a sporty SUV... it's for the person that wants something sporty, understands that the street isn't really a smart place for actual sports car performance (but wants to safely scratch the itch every once in awhile), but also needs a versatile and practical daily driver (that can also tow in this case). You don't need two cars to accomplish that, this is a jack of all trades car and I get everything I truly want (or need) in a single car. Another added benefit is cheaper insurance and only having to maintain a single car.

  • @lehighluke
    @lehighluke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just discovered this channel...might be the best auto channel ive yet seen. I have a 2021 GTS. The reason for me, is my house has 2 garage bays...1 for wife and 1 for me. I have a toddler, so i need something with rear seats. I make a good living and can afford a $1200 lease. I have gasoline in my veins and cant get enough of go fast. Porsche has always been a dream car for me...this is my 1st. The Macan GTS checks all the boxes...fast. sounds amazing. Handles corners amazing. Holds a car seat. Useful for a home depot run. Can hold all my camping gear. Major status flex. Gorgeous. Extremely fun to drive every single time. Thank god this car exists

  • @Chin_Face
    @Chin_Face 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    2:56 Jack just can't stop talking about his GTI, I can practically smell the wildberry-tempura clouds he rips daily

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My stage 53 tune is supported by my mod

    • @gregblack3860
      @gregblack3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are so yesterday as tune 54 has a tenth of a second less rev hang between 4th and 5th gear than the 53 tune dude .

  • @ymyone
    @ymyone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is by far one of the best reviews i have seen, you understand what people want and are looking for is not quite what your into. This does not make them wrong. You also have a very mature and open minded approach, really well done. ( i do drive a 2014 macan s and am in love with it. Came from a gla45 amg, the step up is incredible in both quality of build and driving experience for me) Thanks.

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I think the Macan is the best in class crossover
    For the engine, transmission, handling, capability, usability, reliability, and in my opinion looks

    • @Ficon
      @Ficon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not the usability. Rear seats are useless if you are more than 5'9" which is a shame. Q5 uses the space much better but doesn't drive nearly as well.

    • @DRMCC0Y
      @DRMCC0Y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Ficon I’m 6 ft and I’ve never had any problem in the back of a macan, I wouldn’t say it’s that comfortable but it’s certainly tolerable.

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you, but I would never buy one, or recommend anyone I know buy one. Perhaps there are some filthy rich people that love tossing their money away, but just just a CX-5 and spend the rest of the money on an actual sports car. Crossovers don't need to be good. They get you from point A to point B with all your cargo.

    • @Ficon
      @Ficon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@JohnFromAccounting You are so wrong. Why would you suffer in a car that you spend two hours a day and 10000 miles a year in? CX-5 is completely overrated - it’s bland to drive and the engine is incredibly coarse. Where I live, it’s the choice of people who buy Outbacks but didn’t want an Outback. I used to own a Mk.7 GTI. I would take a Macan as a daily and as a weekend fun car over the GTI or any other FWD box 100% of the time. It just drives so much better.

    • @DRMCC0Y
      @DRMCC0Y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JohnFromAccounting that’s clearly a very different mindset than most Macan buyers, which clearly is fine, because most of them would never consider a CX-5.

  • @NyckLP
    @NyckLP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adding to what the guys said in the video...
    To non die-hard car enthusiasts: It is a lot of money, but it is a very well rounded car that you can daily and have fun whenever you want it to, and it comes from a very respectable and reliable brand.
    To car enthusiasts: We know we can have a normal, cheap SUV/crossover and a more engaging sportscar, but even if you dont like it, think about it this way: This is the type of car (along the Cayenne) that lets Porsche develop the 911 and Cayman which is ultimately what we want to buy. You can hate SUVs all you want, but if the brand admits that this is what allows them to make and develop faster GT3s and GT2RSs, keep your criticism.
    Awesome video as always, you just can't get enough of Mark and Jack!

  • @palletjackinfo
    @palletjackinfo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I subscribed to SavageGeese and my Bugle Boy jeans started to fit again.

  • @Huitzilopochtli526
    @Huitzilopochtli526 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the presenters and editing on this video. Easy to listen to, no sing-song voices or bad jump cuts. Good work.

  • @MrSchn3ll
    @MrSchn3ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Part of me hates that this is what Porsche has become, but the other part of me loves the fact that it injects the money Porsche needs to make incredible sports cars.

    • @ams914
      @ams914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Why would you hate that Porsche has made one of the best performance SUVs in the world? Sounds like they set a nice benchmark.

    • @MrSchn3ll
      @MrSchn3ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ams914 Maybe you don't realize, but Porsche owners lost their minds in 2002-ish when the Cayenne was unveiled. SUV's have been a very recent thing for Porsche and the brand that has always been about pure sports cars went to soccer mom territory. To many of us 911 owners, this is not a Porsche, it's a rebadged Audi/VW - because it is.

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MrSchn3ll Criticism is valid but this is simply the market trend. Gotta have at least one SUV in your lineup and Americans are buying this vehicle type like hotcakes.

    • @1v1qsns
      @1v1qsns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean I don’t see the issue? If Porsche continues to offer amazing 911s, GT cars, caymans etc, then who cares if they make SUV’s? And even then they’re doing their best to make it the best suv they can and I’m here for it.

    • @Tripp55
      @Tripp55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Porsche wouldn't even be around anymore if it weren't for the Cayenne and Macan

  • @MatthewGaither
    @MatthewGaither 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a 2018 Macan GTS in Volcano Gray with the red leather interior. 18 way seats with the upgraded leather package and it's probably my favorite interior in any car, ever and I've had a bunch of them. Once you know where all the physical buttons are it is super easy to access anything without taking your eyes off of the road and it felt luxurious while also being really sporty and cool. Unfortunately I got the itch for a real sports car after about 18 months and traded it for a base 718 Cayman but I still have fond memories of the Macan GTS. It was very, very good.

  • @DailyMunch
    @DailyMunch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Have a great week everyone !

  • @TheEricHines
    @TheEricHines ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2020 GTS ... absolutely love it

  • @fabianherrmann6398
    @fabianherrmann6398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well filmed in the snow and great interaction by the hosts. The Macan is one of the best looking CUVs out there and it is so well made. They are build in Leipzig, Germany, where I had the chance to visit the factory, and they are each tested on a real track and an off road course on site once they come from the assembly line, where a lot of work is done by skilled workers and not everything is automated. There is more to this car than meets the eye at first glance.

  • @Neomet010
    @Neomet010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As one of those people (2020 Cayenne S) let me give my take on the appeal of these vehicles, and you sort of hit on the point during your drive. Probably 80% of my driving is done well within the limits of good taste, often with a beloved spouse, dogs and/or gear with me. Of the 20% when I am playing the hooligan, at least half is in a straight line. My Cayenne is utterly, utterly exciting and competent in those scenarios. It does not require me to fold myself into it like I do with a Miata, or Lotus, or GT3. (Wait until you are in your 60s. You will get my point.) If I were to get a Griswold family truckster for daily driving and an exquisite little sports toy for glory runs on nice weekends that would mean I was missing out on enjoying driving 80% of the time to have a relatively small increase in sportiness 20% of the time. Will I ever confuse my Cayenne for the sports cars I used to race? No. Will I be dang happy getting 80% of the feeling every single day I drive? Absolutely. Keep up the great work!

    • @effa114
      @effa114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have summarized the tradeoffs incredibly well. I'd add to that, for those of us with limited parking in major urban centres, or where insurance is a substantial expense, it's harder to resist the pull of the SUV with enough performance chops to satisfy.

  • @chrismiller4441
    @chrismiller4441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Last time I was this early Brian Cooley from CNET was the most popular TH-cam car reviewer.

    • @louisburley1597
      @louisburley1597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Last time I was, Turbowski was on here lol. I don't know what happened to him

    • @sbernhard83
      @sbernhard83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@louisburley1597 He never said anything of much importance or entertainment. Plus he has a full time job as a mechanic.

    • @cwx8
      @cwx8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@louisburley1597 as negative as the goose is, turbowski was even worse. Truly seemed to hate everything (understandably as I don't known a single non factory mechanic who doesn't hate modern cars).

    • @peterpabian
      @peterpabian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey! You leave Brian Cooley alone!

    • @dcarts5616
      @dcarts5616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s “CNET”?

  • @IM_Arcades
    @IM_Arcades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have a current 21 Macan GTS, with it replacing a 2017 Macan S.
    This car is by far the best driving SUV in the market. Granted it isn't
    as fast as a F97 X3M but it also don't ride like that stupidly harsh X3M
    with a boring ZF8 & noticeable turbo lag, I'm also a current F80 M3
    ZCP owner. Porsche does a lot of things correctly aside from the hefty
    price tag that always comes with them.
    If you are able to afford these cars, they are absolutely worth it. BMW
    has completely fallen off the horse when it comes to their performance
    cars.
    And I also agree with Jack. It's way better to have physical buttons
    over the dumb black plastic screens. Once you have the car for a few
    weeks, you know exactly where each buttons are. Sadly that won't last
    any longer, the newer Macan EV (coming soon) will have its interior
    changed to that, black plastic, touch buttons that I hate.

    • @The_Stanman
      @The_Stanman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spot on. I owned a GTS and completely agree. I think Porsche should give the Macan was last final new generation. There will be sufficient ICE demand for the next 7 years.

  • @PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath
    @PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you live in a city this the perfect all around urban assault vehicle. It just does everything very well. However it is expensive.

  • @youngbrevy
    @youngbrevy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Porsche engineers are obsessed with doing everything better. They make the best sports car, the best SUV the best cross over a very competitive luxury full sized sedan with the panamera and now one of the best EV’s in the Taycan. Why wouldn’t anybody buy a Porsche who can afford it? These guys are not regular engineers they are Scientists and Astronauts to be making cars at such a high level. It’s crazy!

  • @ebsupra
    @ebsupra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Old video but I'm looking at these now, either the GTS or Turbo. It hits all the boxes for me while downsizing to one car. After throwing piles of money into my E90 M3, I still have anxiety driving it, and I think I've reached my limit. It's sporty, precise, well built, comfortable, and can handle 4 seasons. It has everything except loads of interior and cargo space, but that's why the Cayenne exists.

  • @nap250
    @nap250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jack is so well spoken, the automatic closed captioning was 100% accurate.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could also make him a robot, though.

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The man speaks in prose.

  • @1FreddieBee
    @1FreddieBee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review, I've had two Macans, both are base models and they are fabulous cars worth every $, however, I have simultaneously owned sports car during those times. I am now in the process of purchasing the Macan GTS and selling the sports car (2017 Lotus Evora for any interested parties). I have now driven the GTS and in my view it is more 911 than SUV. The Porsche Macan GTS is, without question, the closet I have ever seen any manufacturer come to a practical daily driver for the driving enthusiast.

    • @Paul-ii9vu
      @Paul-ii9vu หลายเดือนก่อน

      What packages are a must have for you? I’m looking at a 2021 with PDLS, Bose and the sports package.

  • @Alias1431
    @Alias1431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love it when you two argue with each other genuinely.

  • @future62
    @future62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for continuing to speak to who cars are for, even if they are not for us. A lot of car "enthusiasts" get off on thrashing anything that doesn't fit our orthodoxy

  • @sterlingseery1872
    @sterlingseery1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a Macan GTS. I bought it new. At the time, it was our only car in Chicago (split btwn me and significant other). We arguably did not need 1 car and definitely didn't need 2. This was the closest thing I could find to a do-it-all car. The 911 is not a do-it-all car. In the event of a zombie apocalypse, 911 doesn't do much for you. Macan GTS can be of more use, unless of course the zombies have a thirst for Yuppie brains. That said, now we are more in need of 2 cars (on occasion), so I bought a 2019 Carrera T. Have kept the Macan bc what else do you replace it with? Maybe a pickup truck, but the Macan is fun to drive and when you live in a winter climate, you end up driving your Macan a lot more than your 911. There aren't many 4wd SUV/CUVs that have better driving mechanics (I haven't driven one to date, I would guess maybe a Urus for an additional 100k). TLDR: It's a yuppie city car to quickly get you away to your lakehouse, all doing it with style and fun. It is expensive, but sadly it seems reasonable when compared to other luxury SUV/CUVs. Macan S gets you 90% of the way there, though...if that fits your budget better.

    • @lancecahill5486
      @lancecahill5486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Macan GTS handles Chicago's winter very well.

  • @toddlehr4381
    @toddlehr4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To really appreciate the Macan GTS. Take the car skiing or hiking in the mountains. It is extremely fun to drive up windy mountain roads and can go off road or through snow with ease.

  • @MarkRVillano
    @MarkRVillano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jack: "Why does this car even exist?"
    I'm currently looking for an AWD SUV that isn't a total slug with a rubber band transmission, and the CX-30 is looking pretty good. But if I had three times as much money as that vehicle cost, THIS is what I'd be buying.

    • @juanordonezgalban2278
      @juanordonezgalban2278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The point is you could get a CX-30 AND a prupose built sports car for that kind of money, like a miata, BRZ, mustang. The second option makes more sense as an enthusiast but I suppose it might be more costly in the long term because you end up with 2 cars (twice the insurance, taxes, regular maintenance etc)

    • @iheartgs400
      @iheartgs400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easy answer FX35/37/QX70 basically a 350/370z lifted

    • @Shane-fh4uu
      @Shane-fh4uu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanordonezgalban2278 Yes for me I went with a X3 M40i which I timed 0-60 as a crazy 4.1s on all season tires for 65k. The last thing I wanted was 2 cars and especially the time it takes to take them to a dealer for maintenance. Instead I have one car that imo looks way better than all the cars you listed as well as performs better than most of them as well

    • @Gustinpham
      @Gustinpham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Shane-fh4uu I’m with you on the maintenance and hassle of two cars, but would definitely say it does not look better lol

    • @Gustinpham
      @Gustinpham 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shane-fh4uu and straight line speed does not constitute preforms better. Just better for daily street driving

  • @matteoregan
    @matteoregan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Am I the only one who looks specifically for what song is being played on the infotainment?

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You get some brie larson and Steven seagal. Two true artists 🤣

  • @PrettyFitApe
    @PrettyFitApe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To answer jacks question. The guy with a kid, a wife, who comfortably wants to kick it around Ontario, Canada and turn in to an absolute monster on the back roads. This x-ver destroys my previously owned terminator any day. Sure I cant shift gears but to hear my wife yelling and my son screaming in laughter, PRICELESS.

  • @Denverian
    @Denverian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you guys make a great couple and enjoy Macan driving

  • @KP-05
    @KP-05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    👌🏽🤷🏽‍♂️..btw I like your style of review. Calm and direct

  • @peternovev3610
    @peternovev3610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great Video, I've driven some of these as a curtesy vehicle and it is a pleasure to drive... the best thing about it... the PDK. However why no-one is mentioning the Steven Seagal track loaded on the infotainment during the opening interior sequence? I could not stop laughing. Nicely done Guys!!!

    • @The_Stanman
      @The_Stanman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I owned for a year and the best thing to me was the suspension. GTS gets air suspension standard, which makes it the most comfortable Macan. I found the ride More comfortable than my wife's Lexus RX. PDK is amazing too though

  • @LawrenceNewmanESQ
    @LawrenceNewmanESQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved my Macan S. Amazing ride and handling, it’s was like my 911 in so many ways without the discomfort. I started getting a water leak into the passenger foot well when it rained. Porsche could not address the cause after many months and visits to the dealer. It’s a known issue on the forums but without resolution Porsche lost me to a Tesla. If I ever go back to a Porsche, the Macan is the most practical daily driver that is fun to drive.

  • @andras.89
    @andras.89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This car is one of my secret favourite from the whole market, because of: 00:38. 100% agree, LOVE the physical buttons and the total lack of piano black (finally), and the analog clusters.

  • @machina_spirit
    @machina_spirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great way to start a monday morning, a new SG video with my coffee!
    I actually like this thing and the engineering that went into it to perform how it does for an SUV, but Mark spitting facts as usual during the drive, about why not just having two separate cars to fill each role rather than this expensive combination. Though i would guess maybe some people don’t have the room for two separate vehicles?

  • @Dusty.Spinster
    @Dusty.Spinster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tossing in my comment for the algorithm. Great video.

    • @fighter835
      @fighter835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tossing in a Thumbs up and a reply for the algorithm.

  • @MrCarGuy
    @MrCarGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love physical switches as well. And the lack of gloss is a bonus.

  • @mlee6136
    @mlee6136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on about the physical switches... searching through menu's suck.

  • @timwinchester2366
    @timwinchester2366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jack is always pushing Mark's buttons! 😂😂😂🤣

  • @cumminsfamilynz
    @cumminsfamilynz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree with the summary - they are special.

  • @imaheatfan
    @imaheatfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I smashed Like so hard on my Steven Seagal playlist

  • @Only-one-life-68
    @Only-one-life-68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got the 2017 macan GTS
    Had for 3 years..
    What can I say
    It’s the longest we have had a car ever..
    Love it..
    The colour is just cool
    Original gt rs riviera blue..
    The reason we haven’t up graded to this model is because it just doesn’t sound as good as the previous model.

  • @gurmeharbajwa6020
    @gurmeharbajwa6020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes love gettin Goosed at 5 in the morning...
    All jokes aside, well done on these videos guys, the quality is absolutely fantastic

  • @David_Watts
    @David_Watts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video; balanced, like the vehicle in question

  • @manyexpertadvice4807
    @manyexpertadvice4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I love Porsche. I love the Macan. And you perfectly right about Porsche. It's a brand above the others.

  • @frankn234
    @frankn234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning. I appreciate your videos especially looking at the mechanics. Question - I watched on a few mechanic videos that one out of 2 Macan's leak oil; Porsche charges $9K to fix the problem? Can you comment on whether that ture or where can you find out if that is true or not? Also, it would be great if you could add a reliability factor during your wrap up. Keep up the great work? Thank-you.

  • @cbrooks2767
    @cbrooks2767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just to clarify; the top audio system is Burmester, not Burmeister. www.burmester.de/en/automotive/porsche/

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, it's been a recurring mispronunciation on this channel. I even complimented Mark when he said it right last time, but I'm disappointed in Jack (or should I say Jake just to be an asshole?) this time ; )

  • @daveh7517
    @daveh7517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Macan S is also for enthusiast. It comes down to options, wheel preferences and overall balance.

  • @thedownwardmachine
    @thedownwardmachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "I don't fully understand why you need an SUV to also be a sports car."
    Must be nice to have more than one parking spot.

    • @dylanw890
      @dylanw890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny you mention that becuase I never saw a Porsche that wasnt double parked and doesn't hog the left lane

    • @terminator7514
      @terminator7514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dylanw890 so it's not just bmw drivers anymore lol no blinkers either?

    • @madgainz7871
      @madgainz7871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had 2 cars also, rs3 and Tucson for my wife. I wanted one vehicule, so thats why we went toward these SUV, we got an X3M and ive been to the track with it beating M2... honestly when people bash on this I feel they are just hating on progress. Yes my RS3 was more sporty but now I have an all-around vehicule that does better lap times than my RS3...

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@madgainz7871 We're not hating "progress", we're hating compromised design. I get that Porsche needs to make money, but I hate that compromised design is how they do it. Also, why are you tracking an SUV?

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JohnFromAccounting They're making those compromises because there are people who need or want one vehicle that can do a variety of things well. We (two people) have one parking space at our condo. Now I live in a city in a mild climate, so don't need SUV features, but I understand why many people do. If I lived where Mark and Jack do, outside Chicago, I'd also be tempted to but an AWD something.

  • @mixah5566
    @mixah5566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yah I like what he mentioned about different perspectives. I drove my friends Macan S (comming from my only car which is a Kia Forte) and I had laughed my ass off and scared myself by driving it. And I loved it, it’s just all around the perfect car in my eyes and I hate SUV’s but this is something special to me and I don’t know why.

  • @PianoBlackTrimRep.
    @PianoBlackTrimRep. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Last time I was this early John Davis and the MotorWeek crew were all the rage over at PBS.

  • @kevinhan721
    @kevinhan721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. I have a question. I have porsche 718 and now I'm thinking of getting a car with more seats. I'm thinking Macan S (2022), Cayenne coupe S, and Panamera Sport Turisumo. Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks!

  • @golfbuddy1969
    @golfbuddy1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many complain about all the confusing buttons...but after a couple weeks of driving it, and learning it, there wouldn’t be any issue with them.

  • @deanchur
    @deanchur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see the dealer got you sold on the car when they put Steven Seagal's Songs From the Crystal Cave on.
    That's how they got me too.

  • @thetechlibrarian
    @thetechlibrarian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Last time I was this early Jeffery Tobin was still waiting to join the zoom call.

  • @rkkty6996
    @rkkty6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd take it !!!! strongly considering buying one

  • @timothybracken1728
    @timothybracken1728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My third wife is gonna love this thing lmfao!

  • @cayman9873
    @cayman9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful car.. love the switches. Looks like a great choice if you need one vehicle to do several things.

  • @andreshates
    @andreshates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So I got one last week, I had a 718 for two years and since that wasn’t really a daily I also got a Volvo S60. The GTS should replace the 718 and the S60. At least that’s my idea, so far I love it. I can go and drive it fast and also take my dog in the back seat with me.

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why are you both in the back seat?

    • @Denverian
      @Denverian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@georgehugh3455 you never hang out with your significant other in the back seat?

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Denverian Ah, taking 'dogging' to a whole new level...

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@georgehugh3455 They've got a lot of style.

  • @AcuraAddicted
    @AcuraAddicted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Girl, it's alright. Steven Seagal. LMAO

    • @estebanmartinez667
      @estebanmartinez667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      :41 seconds and pause. Hilarious.

    • @shaun2072
      @shaun2072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever they paid the photograper to have to take that album cover of Seagal holding the strat at a weird angle, it wasn't enough.

  • @RetireearlyNYC
    @RetireearlyNYC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exactly why we got one for my wife. She has a 2018 Turbo. She would love a 911. But, just take a look at all the roads this winter, or any winter. You cannot drive a sports car in NYC or surrounding areas in the winter without constantly being on the lookout for potholes.
    With the Macan Turbo, it’s nearly as fast as most sports cars, but we don’t have to worry about the snow, the rain, or potholes. We see the snow and icy patches from further away. We have more time to assess how big the potholes are. Should we swerve or just hit it head on. Most of the times, swerving isn’t necessary. That makes it so much safer.
    Almost every day, I hit a pothole or swerve around one that would’ve swallowed a sports car wheel.
    And then there’s the practicality of it. It simply does everything. We take it on family road trips. Can’t do that in a 911. We take it food shopping. Can’t do that in a 911. We take it joy riding in the winter, through snow patches and potholes. Can’t and won’t do that in a 911.
    And when we’re all done having fun, it’s just a supremely comfortable car.
    I still think a 911 is in our future. But, we talk ourselves out of it every winter until they fix the potholes, which is about...May. Or never.

  • @morris111
    @morris111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ive watched dozens of reviews and no one talks about the sound system ,I do love my music and the GTS Im planning on getting im getting the preme package which has the Bose system ,but for a steep $5700 more they offer th bur mister system , do you know much about the two? is it really night and day between the two? love our thoughts

  • @ahkeen
    @ahkeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Poverty sound system, wow literally dropped my iPad and cracked the screen when I heard that.

    • @attananightshadow
      @attananightshadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      First world problems yo.

    • @WhiteLivesMatterPL
      @WhiteLivesMatterPL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Samsung stronger

    • @johngaudet6316
      @johngaudet6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember the Delco systems that GM had in there high end vehicles? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ericaudet3653
    @ericaudet3653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the GTS because I needed a "pick-up" that could pull a boat and have fun at the same time... this is the greatest "pick-up" to drive, trust me ! ! ! Never had a truck or SUV before.

  • @Olddahg
    @Olddahg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 82 yo Mom bought a GTS last year, she loves it !

  • @TriniZx3
    @TriniZx3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @savagegeese can you comment on the steering feel? Is it light/heavy/just right? Is it communicative?

  • @wildbillclinton2748
    @wildbillclinton2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When will you guys get the Audi E-tron Sportback to do a film on?

  • @TomCccog
    @TomCccog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes yes yes. I bought a USED Macan S AND USED 981 Boxster S for about 100K and love them both and they are like brand new. 2 for 1 buying used.

  • @ryanj116
    @ryanj116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I compelled my mother to get a base trim Macan over an X40M/loaded X3, in part due to your Macan S video. Both of us love it even with minimal options. It’s just the right size for her and won’t put me to sleep if I need to drive it. Yeah it’s less fun because it’s compromised, but still competent in the things it tries to do

    • @jcsdesign
      @jcsdesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I absolutely love the Macan but I would not choose a base Macan 2.0T over a X3 M40i. The B58 motor in the BMW is far more superior.

    • @ryanj116
      @ryanj116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jcsdesign you’re right, I did have a hangup on the engine , but it’s not like my mother will ever use more than 20% of the power anyways. And we got the dealer to give us a 10yr b2b warranty, so I’m satisfied.

  • @Timski2543
    @Timski2543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Walking into the lions den on this one...Long time Porsche lover, and still waiting to get into my dream Porsche, but have a x3 m40i. My opinion - best of both worlds and am happy to drive this 365 days a year. The worse the weather the happier I am. As a Canadian I laugh at the subarus struggling in the snow while I decide whether to turn TC completely off or not. Will never replace a true sports car though and would never consider driving a Subaru or CRV for my “daily”

  • @francispei825
    @francispei825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty much nailed it with the read on the demographic. We were looking for a third car since we've got our first kid on the way (already own a 981 GT4 and an E53 Wagon). We test drove everything in it's class (and the classes above and below it - hot hatches and the cayenne sized vehicles).
    Nothing came close to the driving experience in the Macan GTS. Living in Toronto it would let me replicate 85% of the feeling of my GT4 throughout the winter - and that makes it worth the money to me. Honestly the GTS isn't fast compared to the other cars that I've driven but it's a convincing facsimile for a daily.
    I'm ordering a 2022 Macan GTS - and it is expensive AF - time will tell if the car is reliable and has "ok" ongoing ownership costs or if this will depreciate like crazy due to a quality issue.

  • @DetachedGarage
    @DetachedGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the *"POVERTY AUDIO"* option!

    • @jcsdesign
      @jcsdesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if the base sound system is really that bad. But yeah, I agree the base sound system shouldn't be the standard audio system for a GTS trim.

  • @andrewfriedman2572
    @andrewfriedman2572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing us what's underneath the engine cover! (I know there's not much to see, but I'm always curious)

    • @djsomeguy
      @djsomeguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The little hot V turbo's are pretty awesome if you ever get a close up look at this engine.

  • @povertyspec9651
    @povertyspec9651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I won't know what to do with myself since the IN THE SHOPPE jingle is gone.

  • @earlyapex911
    @earlyapex911 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I wanted my previous BMW's to be and more. Our 2018 Macan turbo chacks many boxes.

  • @markvergara
    @markvergara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been eying a chalk Macan GTS in my local Porsche showroom and this may push me over the edge.

    • @Only-one-life-68
      @Only-one-life-68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you love sports cars and you fancy a bit more room extra set of seats..
      You’ll never look back
      I prefer it to my 911.2 for its practicability..

    • @djsomeguy
      @djsomeguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do it! I just got a 2021 GTS around a month ago, it's incredible.

    • @Only-one-life-68
      @Only-one-life-68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djsomeguy
      The Macan GtS it’s the best 1
      As one TH-cam presenter said
      “It’s a luxury rally car 😜”

    • @andreshates
      @andreshates 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I traded my 718 for a Macan GTS last week and man this thing is fun, it’s fast and way more comfortable. Don’t worry, I enjoyed the 718 for two years so it was time to trade.

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. I was intrigued by the Macan's exterior design but having seen its nightmare driving environment in this vid, my ardor has cooled to absolute zero.

  • @backinthegame34
    @backinthegame34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm with you, physical switches all the way !

  • @thomasjanssen9124
    @thomasjanssen9124 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do we need a car like this? Because if you just want to have ONE car - you live in a city, you only have one parking spot available or you just don’t want the complexity of owning more cars - its the best allrounder. Big enough for a family, small enough for the city, great on the Autobahn, comfortable on scenic routes, great looking, awesome quality… There‘s no other car like it if you want to combine those features in one car.

  • @Deepanimosity
    @Deepanimosity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please consider doing a review on the Forte GT Manual

  • @ABeans07
    @ABeans07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Lord! Look at the buttons on that center stack LOL

  • @WolfrCats
    @WolfrCats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn decent styling.

  • @jmdixon1
    @jmdixon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:50 Mark nails why I traded my Boxster S on this Macan GTS: living in a city, I was scraping the Boxster's front end every time I turned into a place, and that sound hurts your soul.
    Haven't scraped the Macan once and it's as sporty as you need.

  • @DeltaCharlie27
    @DeltaCharlie27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im surprised Mark doesn't get it - I've got a 997 but frequently need to carry a lot of things. The Macan GTS looks like a perfect way to have the best of both worlds. I'm not selling the 997 but I am looking hard into one of these...

  • @Andrew-zv4fm
    @Andrew-zv4fm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see you two do a review on the 4 banger Macan.

  • @jamesmedina2062
    @jamesmedina2062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One word: CONSOLIDATION. This car combines functions and does it all . The Swiss Army knife of vehicles in 2021. I want one!