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@@Golden3ye Eh, not quite. Marques did over 90 MPH in a school zone, whereas other (responsible) people only hit those speeds on desolate backroads or highways. I do think it was overblown but what he did was stupid.
@@tyler9703 He was not in a school zone please stop peddling that lie. It was a "children at play sign" which anyone in NJ can request to be put up whether you have children at play or not.
Don’t worry, Porsche dealers are a lot nicer with these than their GT / higher end sports cars. I even got mine with 5% discount and a very reasonable 4 month build slot!
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Sure, but I don't see the value with how inflated car prices are now, especially luxury/sports cars. You're telling me this is worth more than 4 new Miata's?
@@ADUSNAnother point to make though is the resale values of the 911 this car will still fetch $75-$90k for the next 3-4 years. The miata wont unfortunately 😂.
It's refreshing, but the Porsche tax is just too much for this. Supra w/ manual is 1/3 of this price. Does it offer only 1/3 of experience? I'm inclined to think no. You do have to pay extra for the Porsche badge.
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@@retrograde11 It's 5X more than a new Miata. Does it offer 5X the experience?
You can’t do the “does it offer 3x the fun?” Game. simple math never tells the full story. Fact of the matter is that 100k or 140k is still out of reach for most people. Even if you can write the check, it has to fit into your life amid things like (for me) kids’ education, retirement planning and vacation home purchase. Face it, consistently make 1/2 mil to a million a year or else find another car to scratch the itch. Doesn’t stop me from consuming the videos, but I doubt I’ll ever buy one. Or…..get an allocation, spend the $, and show the discipline to drive it for 2 or 3 years and sell it. Likely for minimal or no loss.
I went to the 2 local Porsche dealers here last winter, of course with no previous relationship I was told at both locations I wouldn't be able to claim a factory new 911 of any spec for over 5 years. This experience and attempting to build/order a Z06 for years now, has killed a good bit of the enjoyment of automotive enthusiasm. Woe is me for not getting my fancy cars but shit hits a little different when you watch all these videos and go to a dealer and get laughed at and turned away because haha jk these cars aren't actually for sale.
I have a 718 Cayman T and if you enjoy the pure joys of driving, any T variant in Porsches lineup is a buy. It’s never trying to be something it’s not - just pure driving enjoyment. Yeah it’s not the fastest but who cares, it’s about how it makes you feel when you’re behind the wheel.
The Lotus Emira has a manual option, although whether you consider that a competitor is another matter. Personally, what puts me off is the deletion of the 7th overdrive gear for motorway use and the limited interior options. I'd be paying more for a T with poverty-looking cloth interior than a base Carrera with black/cognac semi-aniline. May as well hold out for a manual S.
80mph at the top of second. Hate on Miata all you want. But you are near the top of 4th at 80mph. Nice to have a car you can actually row gears on. HP is not everything.
I absolutely love Porsche. But that said, they've gotten way too high on their horse and are pricing their vehicles out of the range of most buyers at this point. I owned a Macan GTS and while I loved it, it did have quite a few small issues under warranty. Porsche is really becoming a private member only membership club type carmaker and it's a shame to see. The big winner is Chevy with the C8 and the Z51/Z06/Eray for half the price of the 911s
I'm about 75% sure that Jack is on a drive in or around the Walls of Jericho if he's in Alabama, which is one of the absolute best places for a "spirited" drive near and around Tennessee/Alabama. If he's not, then I still highly recommend trying it for anyone reading this that'll be in that area any time soon.
Amazing car. Performance is a little odd, you pay that money it’s just going to be an adjustment to know a new M2 at less than 1/2 the price could be faster.
I love it when you say that Porches are boring and then you add "- there are just no major flaws to them". If that's the only boring part, then this is pretty great car! :)
That is a very nice red jacket Jack! Maybe T does stand voor testosterone after all. Can totally see you drivin' and vibin' in that T with that outro song playing.
As power has become so democratized it no longer feels special. When mommy-mobiles have 3 second 0-60's then there needs to be something else that is special about the driving experience. The 9:1 or similar HP:weight ratio is where it's at for street cars. You can still open the taps without going 2x the speed limit. That's where lightness becomes the 'X-factor'. At 3300 lbs, this is about as light as they come anymore- excluding BRZ and Miata. Makes the car much more fun and involving at sane speeds. Cars like this are the perfect Goldilocks of street cars.
Some of my friends buy vettes, they keep telling me “they’re cheaper than a Porsche” I have to keep explaining to them that’s not why you buy a Porsche.
It's the one I would go for, especially as a second fun car, but the price of these things is actually ridiculous. I can't afford the 911 regardless, but an M2 for less than half the price with more power, better practicality and a manual is the enthusiast bargain of the decade.
It’s kinda weird. There are cars quicker and less expensive than an entry level 911.2. I configured one exactly the way I want it. And it was pushing 180k. And this is what is weird i would definitely buy it over a Vet. Or a M series. It’s like a Porsche is a Porsche. You can’t buy one anywhere else. Kinda Like you can’t buy an iPhone anywhere but from Apple. An Icon is a Icon
I wonder why they went with long gearing. Fuel consumption? it makes little sense too me to make a special manual version of a car that you almost never need to change gears in.
Thanks for the review. Which has the more compliant suspension for long drives between a 911 carrera s & an M4? I've seen a lot of reviewers commenting on the harshness of the M4 but very little about Porsches (GT's aside)
Yeah, tall gearing really kills the fun factor. At least in something like a Mustang you can easily throw in lower gearing, but a C7/Cayman or any transaxle car it's practically impossible.
I’d buy a nicely optioned Cayman GTS 4.0 instead and use the leftover cash to get a used Honda Civic daily. Unless the price of the 911 T includes that road.
So let me get this straight: RAS adds weight and makes it less pure but it's to take a non-GT car on track? It's supposed to be a grand tourer but they chopped off the 7th gear. It's one-hundred-and-fifty-thousand dollars with a few arguably necessary options and only 388 HP. It's 3316 lbs and proably 20 more with the back seats added in and with 18 way and Bose and a moonroof it's probably pushing 3500 lbs. And then you have all these stickers to let people know you drive a manual. Hmmm
The T is a pure marketing gag. Nothing in this car is specifically developed for that model, just a smart combo of options and measures that are already there...
They tale away the option of a manual, only to give it back with hype. Porsche are kings of marketing bs. Just get a 981S/gts, sounds and handles better than the 911 T anyway
I just say, I'll stop to buy any new Porsche FOREVER if they stop offering the awd+manual transmission combo. Rwd in a 911 is just a no-no. And I bought 911 fleet several times in 2010s. You better do your things Porsche.
Oooooh, a math problem in the video to be solved. Blurring starts at 114.7 miles on the trip meter , 37 seconds later it finishes on 115.3 And the average speed over that 37 seconds is.... 58mph. MKBHD still has you beat.
The old 991.2 and 992.1 Carrera T were the most factory detuned engines from the factory. Litchfield a tuning company here in the UK with just a software update were taking these cars up to 500bhp at the wheel. Now with the new bigger turbos from the old GTS model you can probably get even more power out of that engine. The benefits of the smaller turbos were that they spun up quicker than the one on the GTS model giving you less lag. The new 992.2 T with the GTS turbo will be a bit more laggy from lower revs in stock form. For me the best option would be a 991.2 Carrera T RWD with no rear steering manual and a Litchfield map.
@retrograde11 less weight the 991.2 were using the narrow body shell from Carrera 2 rather than Carrera 4. So they are the lightest. With 992.1 and 992.2 all Carerras are wide body. More weight. Plus you don't need it. The most driver focus and pure 911 the ST doesn't have rear wheel steering. All old great 911. 964, 993, 996, 997 they didn't have rear wheel steering. It is just a gimmick that you don't need that adds weight and complexity to the car plus if it will go wrong with time it will be expensive to fix.
The base Eng. From 991.2t-992.2T Is the same vs. the 992.1 gts, just with different turbos and tune. You can increase power to near turbo levels (600hp/tq) w/ turbos, csf intercoolers, exhaust, and a tune, but with a manual. Flat 6 motorsports has a good series to watch.
Crazy you tested this as i was speccing one up in the online configurator last night. Came out to $140k then I thought, you know what else is $140k? The Corvette Z06. Way faster obviously but heavier and no manual transmission What would you pick? 🤔
My only complaint about the Z06 is that it isn't wild enough looking like the ZR1 or understated enough. The rear wing is atrocious, and the front end is both over styled and cheap looking. I keep waffling back and forth on my midlife crisis car being a used 992.1 or a Z06. :/
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I don't blame you for testing all 10,000 iterations of the 911.
😂
I’m here for it though
I feel a lot of TH-camrs do that with 911, but not any other cars 😅
Is that all? Probably missed a few…..thousand
Looks like Mark has had enough of it though.
I’m so tired of it lol
i usually skip sponsored clips but that table promotion was 10/10
I love this channel’s obsession with Porsche. It makes me feel I’m not that crazy after all.
You forgot to mention this car is equipped with the $2500 speedo blur option.
MKHBD could learn something for his videos😅
@ this was overblown. I feel bad for him
@@TommyLGarageya he is getting dragged for something every car TH-camr does. Society loves to tear down successful people
@@Golden3ye Eh, not quite. Marques did over 90 MPH in a school zone, whereas other (responsible) people only hit those speeds on desolate backroads or highways. I do think it was overblown but what he did was stupid.
@@tyler9703 He was not in a school zone please stop peddling that lie. It was a "children at play sign" which anyone in NJ can request to be put up whether you have children at play or not.
“Hi Porsche dealer, I’d like to buy a new 911T.”
Porsche dealer, “have you bought a Porsche before? Do we know you?”
Don’t worry, Porsche dealers are a lot nicer with these than their GT / higher end sports cars. I even got mine with 5% discount and a very reasonable 4 month build slot!
@@scowil456 no they are all back to being jerks because of the impending tariffs.
Porsche Dealer: “Are your T-levels high enough?”
@ Maybe not. 🇺🇸
"How many Taycans and Macans have you bought from us?"
Sorry kids no university for you. Dad needs a Porsche 😢😢
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So this is pretty much the rich person's Miata?
Sure, but I don't see the value with how inflated car prices are now, especially luxury/sports cars. You're telling me this is worth more than 4 new Miata's?
@@ADUSN Ok, let's play your game: are you saying an M3 is worth 2 320i?
That would be the Boxster
@@ADUSNAnother point to make though is the resale values of the 911 this car will still fetch $75-$90k for the next 3-4 years. The miata wont unfortunately 😂.
First time I didn’t skip past the sponsored ad 😂
Finally a new sports car not chasing numbers, HP, 0-60 times, etc. Just wish it was under $100k
It's refreshing, but the Porsche tax is just too much for this. Supra w/ manual is 1/3 of this price. Does it offer only 1/3 of experience? I'm inclined to think no. You do have to pay extra for the Porsche badge.
@@retrograde11 It's 5X more than a new Miata. Does it offer 5X the experience?
Agreed. And no it doesn't.
You can’t do the “does it offer 3x the fun?” Game. simple math never tells the full story. Fact of the matter is that 100k or 140k is still out of reach for most people. Even if you can write the check, it has to fit into your life amid things like (for me) kids’ education, retirement planning and vacation home purchase. Face it, consistently make 1/2 mil to a million a year or else find another car to scratch the itch. Doesn’t stop me from consuming the videos, but I doubt I’ll ever buy one.
Or…..get an allocation, spend the $, and show the discipline to drive it for 2 or 3 years and sell it. Likely for minimal or no loss.
@@retrograde11 you don't but these cars because it makes sense mathematically. I bought a 992 c2s and it is great.
The ad run was great !!
The Flexispot promotion is next level. Lmao.
You should've ended the video with an outro of "quit playing games with my heart" song.
Marks ad reads are so good.
4:23 Mark puts in the hours and throws out his back with this $500 mouse jiggler.
I went to the 2 local Porsche dealers here last winter, of course with no previous relationship I was told at both locations I wouldn't be able to claim a factory new 911 of any spec for over 5 years. This experience and attempting to build/order a Z06 for years now, has killed a good bit of the enjoyment of automotive enthusiasm. Woe is me for not getting my fancy cars but shit hits a little different when you watch all these videos and go to a dealer and get laughed at and turned away because haha jk these cars aren't actually for sale.
I am a Porsche fan
I own a Porsche
I am a car enthusiast
I still do not understand the 911 lineup
Thank god. It makes zero sense to the rest of us
It used to be relatively simple
C2
C4
C4s
GTS
GT3
Turbo
GT3RS
GT2RS
I burst out laughing several times during the Mark sim crashing interlude. You guys are the best at witty, dry humor
The name tag on the desk..."Hello, my name is MIKE HUNT.
Luv that they finally put a proper 6 speed manual back into a Carrera, a la 997 days.
I used to have a 991.2 with 7 speed MT and was very lackluster.
That ad tickles my flexi spot.
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Thank you, and happy Thanksgiving!
I have a 718 Cayman T and if you enjoy the pure joys of driving, any T variant in Porsches lineup is a buy. It’s never trying to be something it’s not - just pure driving enjoyment. Yeah it’s not the fastest but who cares, it’s about how it makes you feel when you’re behind the wheel.
What made you choose 718 t over miata ND? Curious, since one could argue it's even more fun driving experience.
@@retrograde11I guess it is the comfort in the 718.😊
Also have a 718 Cayman T; totally agree with you. 😊
Normally I don't comment on in video ads... but the FlexiSpot ad was outright hilarious!!!
Best ad read ever? Yea...quite possibly. The mouse on the treadmill had me rolling. lol
The Silverback Porsche guy is back with another variant 😂😂
Passion says Carrera T, wallet says Miata 💀.
Not a bad pick. Many ex Porsche owners now own Miatas. 😉
Apparently these things take to tuning really well. You can get them into the 600-700 HP range.
Love the Clockwork Orange reference :)
The Lotus Emira has a manual option, although whether you consider that a competitor is another matter. Personally, what puts me off is the deletion of the 7th overdrive gear for motorway use and the limited interior options. I'd be paying more for a T with poverty-looking cloth interior than a base Carrera with black/cognac semi-aniline. May as well hold out for a manual S.
80mph at the top of second. Hate on Miata all you want. But you are near the top of 4th at 80mph. Nice to have a car you can actually row gears on. HP is not everything.
Great review! I like how you compared it to the 992.1T
The manual transmission placard is just so ridiculously funny. Just in case you didn't know what that gear lever was. LMFAO!
I absolutely love Porsche. But that said, they've gotten way too high on their horse and are pricing their vehicles out of the range of most buyers at this point. I owned a Macan GTS and while I loved it, it did have quite a few small issues under warranty. Porsche is really becoming a private member only membership club type carmaker and it's a shame to see. The big winner is Chevy with the C8 and the Z51/Z06/Eray for half the price of the 911s
Agreed, difficult to get excited when for what it offers, the price of admission is so high.
I'm about 75% sure that Jack is on a drive in or around the Walls of Jericho if he's in Alabama, which is one of the absolute best places for a "spirited" drive near and around Tennessee/Alabama. If he's not, then I still highly recommend trying it for anyone reading this that'll be in that area any time soon.
I feel like 150k is sure a lot, but a an M4 manual is not far behind - and you get way more enjoyable car with the T.
Amazing car. Performance is a little odd, you pay that money it’s just going to be an adjustment to know a new M2 at less than 1/2 the price could be faster.
I thought I'd make a T joke without watching the video then you made it yourself within the first 20 seconds
Oh, and I appreciate the mug gag, Mike
Sponsor clip was 10/10 🤣
Oooh the shade on the blurred speedo. So petty but I'm here for it.
Thank you for your hard work and diligence. Your videos are always a joy to watch.👍🌓⛵️
OMG, the freaking actual 992.2 video doesn’t start till after 5 mins of ads. Geewiz boys! 🙄
I love it when you say that Porches are boring and then you add "- there are just no major flaws to them". If that's the only boring part, then this is pretty great car! :)
Can’t even rev out 3rd 😢
my miata redlines 3rd at 78 like this does 2nd lol
I like the subtle blue accents
Glad you could enjoy Blood Mtn! You're in my back yard!
I like it. Wish it was at least 400hp stock.
Good to see we got some more Flexispot and Porsche content.
Never have so many demanded so much from so few.
Well Done.
You don’t need to highly spec one of these, keep it light and simple
This is the only mid-video promotion that I've ever sat through. I now own 7 Flexispot desks.
The Emira wasn't mentioned as a competitor.
That is a very nice red jacket Jack! Maybe T does stand voor testosterone after all. Can totally see you drivin' and vibin' in that T with that outro song playing.
As power has become so democratized it no longer feels special. When mommy-mobiles have 3 second 0-60's then there needs to be something else that is special about the driving experience. The 9:1 or similar HP:weight ratio is where it's at for street cars. You can still open the taps without going 2x the speed limit. That's where lightness becomes the 'X-factor'. At 3300 lbs, this is about as light as they come anymore- excluding BRZ and Miata. Makes the car much more fun and involving at sane speeds. Cars like this are the perfect Goldilocks of street cars.
Yo the song at the end was niiiiiiice
The Emira! Duh!
Nice seeing Jack's Corolla ripping around strip malls in LITH yesterday.
Some of my friends buy vettes, they keep telling me “they’re cheaper than a Porsche” I have to keep explaining to them that’s not why you buy a Porsche.
thanks for honest reviews
Great footage, great music 🔥
I drove a friend carrera t. Was pretty disappointed. I'd rather have an emira honestly.
Ok I did not realize the base carerra comes with an open diff as standard. Thats sort of sad for a six figure sports car. 😂
A fantastic car apart from the engine sounding like a wet fart. I fracking hate Porsche 911 turbo engines.
It's the one I would go for, especially as a second fun car, but the price of these things is actually ridiculous. I can't afford the 911 regardless, but an M2 for less than half the price with more power, better practicality and a manual is the enthusiast bargain of the decade.
Reckless driving on public roads is a nice touch. 😂
My old 2000 Boxter S went 0-60 shifting to 3rd at 60 as well and had a 6 speed manual....
Lotus Emira or the 911 manual
It’s kinda weird. There are cars quicker and less expensive than an entry level 911.2. I configured one exactly the way I want it. And it was pushing 180k. And this is what is weird i would definitely buy it over a Vet. Or a M series. It’s like a Porsche is a Porsche. You can’t buy one anywhere else. Kinda Like you can’t buy an iPhone anywhere but from Apple. An Icon is a Icon
I wonder why they went with long gearing. Fuel consumption? it makes little sense too me to make a special manual version of a car that you almost never need to change gears in.
Is the gearing longer than in other serious sports cars, though? is it longer than M3, Mustang GT350, Dark Horse, C7 Corvette?
I usually skip your sponsor promo’s but I actually watched the Flexispot ad twice because it was so utterly horrific….I bought 4 desks.
Thanks for the review.
Which has the more compliant suspension for long drives between a 911 carrera s & an M4?
I've seen a lot of reviewers commenting on the harshness of the M4 but very little about Porsches (GT's aside)
My like was for that sponsor spot.
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Great car, but $150K great? Sheesh. I could have an Elise, a Type R, AND a nice 4Runner for that money. I like options.
Great review! Would you consider a this T over a 718 GT4 as a weekend car?
Gt4 all the way
$150k
Is the gearing that much longer than in other serious sports cars, though? M3, Mustang GT350, Dark Horse, C7 Corvette?
Yeah, tall gearing really kills the fun factor. At least in something like a Mustang you can easily throw in lower gearing, but a C7/Cayman or any transaxle car it's practically impossible.
I’d buy a nicely optioned Cayman GTS 4.0 instead and use the leftover cash to get a used Honda Civic daily. Unless the price of the 911 T includes that road.
So let me get this straight: RAS adds weight and makes it less pure but it's to take a non-GT car on track? It's supposed to be a grand tourer but they chopped off the 7th gear. It's one-hundred-and-fifty-thousand dollars with a few arguably necessary options and only 388 HP. It's 3316 lbs and proably 20 more with the back seats added in and with 18 way and Bose and a moonroof it's probably pushing 3500 lbs. And then you have all these stickers to let people know you drive a manual. Hmmm
Porsche pricing is getting ridiculous at this point. They are milking money.
It's beautiful...........
That hood decal would drive me crazy. How much does it cost to delete?
4:01 fellow Audioengine A5+ enjoyer spotted.
Also, how the hell does porsche make a turboengine sound that good. Wizards...
Thumbnail typo?
The T is a pure marketing gag. Nothing in this car is specifically developed for that model, just a smart combo of options and measures that are already there...
They tale away the option of a manual, only to give it back with hype. Porsche are kings of marketing bs. Just get a 981S/gts, sounds and handles better than the 911 T anyway
Wished this had the CayBox 4L NA engine and the GT3 double wishbone front suspension for the enthusiasts base spec option
Hopefully if I’m stingy with my money this year, I can afford just that shift knob.
Is the C8 Z06 the best/special feeling engine for its price point at the moment? New/used?
That engine might be the pinnacle of NA Street engines ... who's gonna spend the money to develop another with future emissions and EV .
"Porche" in the thumbnail is quite a big one
I just say, I'll stop to buy any new Porsche FOREVER if they stop offering the awd+manual transmission combo.
Rwd in a 911 is just a no-no.
And I bought 911 fleet several times in 2010s.
You better do your things Porsche.
Can I work for ya
i agree, 4s with powerkit, PCCB and manual is the best 911 ever
@@denalisiomontpellier4064 We're based in CA, NY, TX and VT, also AB, Canada, otherwise you cannot apply.
Is that induction noise artificially enhanced? Sounds a lot coarser and valvetrain-ier than the last 3.0 turbo I remember hearing.
Manual dark horse :)
Most dogs weigh more thna the weight differential. It's the add ons that make the T, not the silly weight.
Oooooh, a math problem in the video to be solved.
Blurring starts at 114.7 miles on the trip meter , 37 seconds later it finishes on 115.3
And the average speed over that 37 seconds is....
58mph.
MKBHD still has you beat.
Just wanted to thank Savage Geese for giving me this car for free. Thanks bros!
Goose and Silver when u come anywhere near milan i will deliver you an all original and pristine 944 Turbo S (silverrose)
Can it still be a sports car if it's automatic? C8Z06 seems like supercar/trackcar.
So basically you buy this and m engineering tune to get the best “bargain” 911….
The old 991.2 and 992.1 Carrera T were the most factory detuned engines from the factory. Litchfield a tuning company here in the UK with just a software update were taking these cars up to 500bhp at the wheel. Now with the new bigger turbos from the old GTS model you can probably get even more power out of that engine. The benefits of the smaller turbos were that they spun up quicker than the one on the GTS model giving you less lag. The new 992.2 T with the GTS turbo will be a bit more laggy from lower revs in stock form. For me the best option would be a 991.2 Carrera T RWD with no rear steering manual and a Litchfield map.
Interesting, but why no rear steering?
@retrograde11 less weight the 991.2 were using the narrow body shell from Carrera 2 rather than Carrera 4. So they are the lightest. With 992.1 and 992.2 all Carerras are wide body. More weight. Plus you don't need it. The most driver focus and pure 911 the ST doesn't have rear wheel steering. All old great 911. 964, 993, 996, 997 they didn't have rear wheel steering. It is just a gimmick that you don't need that adds weight and complexity to the car plus if it will go wrong with time it will be expensive to fix.
The base Eng. From 991.2t-992.2T Is the same vs. the 992.1 gts, just with different turbos and tune. You can increase power to near turbo levels (600hp/tq) w/ turbos, csf intercoolers, exhaust, and a tune, but with a manual. Flat 6 motorsports has a good series to watch.
Crazy you tested this as i was speccing one up in the online configurator last night. Came out to $140k then I thought, you know what else is $140k? The Corvette Z06. Way faster obviously but heavier and no manual transmission
What would you pick? 🤔
Z06. Special engine and way more exciting.
Z06
My only complaint about the Z06 is that it isn't wild enough looking like the ZR1 or understated enough. The rear wing is atrocious, and the front end is both over styled and cheap looking. I keep waffling back and forth on my midlife crisis car being a used 992.1 or a Z06. :/
The Z06, just a more special car with that engine. I'd only get this if you reallt wanted a manual 911 above all else
I don't think my size 15's HHH width foot can work that pedal box :(
For the money gimme a Blackwing