At first I was like, damn, why didn’t you take a piece off your foot or something? But then I realized he took a piece by his heart, so I got that symbolism.
"You think I'm some freak who's into monsters?" No lady, but anyone who wants to sleep with you clearly is such a freak. She is the real monster. No idea why there is no top comment stating this. Don't be fooled by the crying. Someone with their brain developed this way wouldn't be capable of seeing their mistakes. She is going to inhibit it within seconds by lying to herself, that 'I'm bad, but my actions aren't bad, I had my reasons, so I'm not really bad'. What disordered psychos do.
The most unrealistic part of this is that there are apparently NO monster-F’ers in this universe. Seriously, Ben should have veritable legions of them ready to jump his rocks.
A little bit, I wouldn’t say it’s nearly as bad as Spider-Man. With Ben, it’s more like “Here’s a sort of what-if scenario.” With Spider-Man, it’s “here’s the absolute worst thing we can do to someone because we feel we have to at all points of the day”
@@rynemcgriffin1752In my opinion, I feel like some people over exaggerate on how bad Spider-Man’s life is. To me his life is pretty decent. Sure he loses his loved ones and has bad things happen to him which is still terrible. But It’s apart of being a Hero. If I were to choose who has the worst life, would probably be Wolverine. Because every year when it’s his Birthday SaberTooth comes and makes his life a living hell. The Thing. Because he feels alienated by people that he has once lived with. And that alienation causes him to disconnect from his teammates/friends. I know that in a majority stories Spider-Man has suffered, but can we at least not act like he’s the only hero that has suffered casualties or harm inflicted by someone. Especially in other stories like, Punisher vs The Marvel Universe, Marvel Zombies and more.
If Hulk were there, he'd verbally smash Jennifer. *Hulk:* Hulk know what it like to be used. Hulk used to it. All Orange Man wanted was to be treated no different than you, puny girl. Orange Man may be big and rocky, but Orange Man has feelings too. And you smash them worse than I could ever do to this world. For shame puny girl. For shame. You not worth smashing in any context.
Him telling her the last few weeks were special is the worst part of this to me. He’s not mad at her for not loving him at all because he doesn’t even blame her, he just really let himself believe he met someone who was different and saw through it all. Despite how she treated him in the end she still made him feel happiness for the first time in a long time, and having it ripped away like that is just devastating.
The fact she cries after hearing him say "You could have just asked..." that shows at least in my view she realises she's a horrible person and knows she cannot undo the damage done.
It looks like she tried to hurt him deliberately so he'd react angrily, letting her feel right for judging him based on his looks alone. Since he reacted to being hurt so deeply by literally giving her what she wanted even after being devastated like that, I think you're right. She was forced to acknowledge that he was truly a decent person inside and out, and that she had done everything in her power to show how cruel she could be to someone who truly cared about her. After all, what kind of person does that to someone? A monster.
Yeah. JEEZ that was Terrible... THing Just got his Heart SHATTERED... Hit him WAY HARDER then any Villain Did... THis was Ben GRimm's/The THing's BIGGEST DEFEAT EVER which hurt Most.
I feel like reed could take that as a challenge and invent a scanner that actually can detect heartbreak. That seems like something he could actually figure out if he put his mind to it.
The worst part is that he gave her many, many, outs and even got to know each other even gaining his trust, and she never once thought to change her approach and just say what she actually wanted.
@@jacyhoogvliets5716 the difference is that Killer Croc can embrace being treated like a monster and actually be one. Ben does not. And that's what makes him so endearing.
this good story writing it's a monster he can't clobber , it gives him character as sorry as u feel for him u still respect him unlike what they do to Peter Parker.
One thing I don't get is why, in the Marvel Universe - where there are so many mutants and aliens and other strange creatures - the Thing is seen by the public as an unspeakable monster. I'd wager he's less frightening looking than many who don't get the same "ahhhh, monster!" storylines
Probably because most of them look human. In the xmen, they have ways to hide their powers, avengers are basically celebrities, and others don't really care. The thing has no way to hide his powers and people will always be afraid of others who look different
I think it’s cause bro just walks through the middle of New York. There’s bound to be someone freaked out. But the fact he talks completely normal kinda ruins it for how often it happens to him.
This story is pretty dark for Ben, but in others he can show his face without causing a ruckus. He is quite a celebrity, like the rest of the 4F, and a big part of NY is used to his looks. I guess the problem is people from outside NY. Also, there are many people that hadn't any real contact with mutants and aliens besides the TV, so it's understandable they react extremely when they finally met one.
@@jamesroad316 Aren't F4 also celebrities? They have their own HQ in the penthouse of Baxter Building, they do not have secret identities, all of that. So in my opinion people should already be accustomed to Ben being there. I mean yeah he's a big rock golem but he's not destroying the city or anything. Just...chilling.
@@russellharrell2747yea I don’t get it Ben looks awesome he’s a big orange buff rock man who is kind and saves people I swear random comic book background characters are npcs bro
Get the jackal to make a composite clone of Ben, Peter, Matt, Mr immortal, and Howard the duck then he’d have created the ultimate loser in the universe.
Some Marvel Heroes like the Thing and the X-Men are like the retail workers of the Marvel Universe, they do their intended job and still get shit from civilians for it.
It's also pretty sad that his only real girlfriend is a literal blind woman. In order for The Thing to find happiness, he has to be with someone who is incapable of seeing his form and is forced to see the man on the inside. Ben is a representation of the extremely self-conscious person who always feels out of place. No one sees him, and when they do, they want him to go away/run from him. His friends are all amazing with powers they can turn off and on at will while he's forever stuck being ugly. They get all the positive attention and he gets all the negative. It's no wonder the guy is depressed all the time.
Not really sad. More happy that someone treated him as he ought to be - a person. Idk what's so sad about that besides the fact that for all he's done, so many still treat him like a monster when there's so little who don't (at least from what we see)
I think it’s more that Alicia. I think Thts her name is used to loving people for what’s not on the outside. She def knows he’s diff and rocky everywhere. But I don’t think it matters to her because appearance never mattered before why would it just cuz he’s a rock guy yk. She one of those people who just loves personalities but when ur blind ig u gotta be. But idk seems more genuine
I think the thing is the Thing can’t do the thing because the Thing’s thing is now like the rest of the Thing, making doing the thing with the Thing not an enjoyable thing.
@@Lawrence_TalbotBut what if the Thing’s thing isn’t like the rest of the Thing, meaning he can do the thing but when his thing is finished, the Thing expels Thing-like things from his thing?
@@kingvulcoon1752Well I assume the thing with The Thing's thing is like the rest of the thing, but the other thing with The Thing's thing is that it still might be a thing The Thing can do the thing with. Maybe The Thing's thing is always doing the thing thing's do and isnt entirely too different to other things. As they say everything's a thing if your thing can handle a thing.
@@dippin4dotsThe Things thing must be a mad ting ya know Bumbaclot bet he Smash up the ting nicely that bad man thing with his ting jesus christ pussyclat ting must sing real general that Thing there. 🇯🇲 😅
Ben doesn't deserve this crap, he never has. He's a good person, with a good heart. And the fact he wasn't even angry, just sad and alone, says so much about what feeling like a person again means to him. People look at him and see a monster, but at the end of the day, mutated or not, he's human. For her to say such horrible things to him, and his response simply being to give her what she wants so he can hold himself together and get away...its heartbreaking.
You don't need superheroes for this to be realistic. Just substitute how Ben looks with being smart and introverted in the 80s (for example) and the violent nature of the conflict with being led on, used, and exploited for some other purpose, only to be crushed when the truth is revealed. It does happen. It's happened for decades. And given human nature, it'll probably happen until the human race snuffs itself out.
Thank you for this. I’ve been into the FF since the mid 1960’s and the ones where they explore the heart and soul of Ben Grimm have been some of the very best. Pathos is a subject only rarely explored in Marvel. And it is best done when exploring the lives of those who endure the most disfigurement to gain their power. Thank you for this.
Made me shed some tears to be honest. One of my favorite marvel characters. Like many he doesn’t deserve the treatment people give him. Hate to see him be hurt.
Man I love monster based characters because you can tell stories like this. To show that they’re more than what they look and just want to love and respected.
I feel sorry for Ben he tries so hard to be a hero for all hope but people see him as just a monster made out of rocks and I don’t blame him for arguing with Reed for trying to make him human. This has to be saddest thing I seen Ben be. You know it’s been years why hasn’t Reed figure out a cure for his appearance? Love this channel ❤🖤
@@MichaelDeHaven It's just the suspension of disbelief. We're made to think that Mr Fantastic is the smartest man in the world. Not just any world, but the world of Marvel Comics that is full of geniuses, marvels of science and magic. If so, how come that he didn't cure his friend yet after a decade or two? The only logical reason you could think of would be, that he didn't really try.
@@eomin There's been stories that explored this and it's a pretty constant source of friction between the two when Ben is feeling particularly alienated.
The epitome of "Sticks and stones cant hurt my bones, but hurtfull words wounds me" Or, my favorite variation: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me"
This is just so sad, I finally get why The Thing wants to be human so bad he gives the symbiote a shot, when you made the symbiote video I didnt understand why he would go to such lenghts to look human again, now I do
This is such a top tier writing on how to hurt an nearly undestructible character, The Thing is a real embodiment of people who always get judged by their appearances(in negative way) but it's actually quite on the contrary inside
Seeing amazing comic stories like this is what makes me worried about the upcoming fantastic four movie. Developing 4 of them with this kind of quality within a 2 hour runtime doesn't seem optimal. But I'd love to be proven wrong
A fun reminder, that the marvel adventures was the all ages line. It’s where we got Hulk making bullseye pay taxes, ultron being a creation of shield, the nicest version of the character hatemonger, Emma frost: love interest of Spider-Man , Wolverine revealing he read watchmen, and Ben Grimm getting his heart torn worse than temple of doom.
Living to 6,000 yrs old, seeing all of Human society make stride after stride, advancements that even Reed likely could’ve never fathomed and seemingly finding acceptance among those that millennia past would’ve just as quickly cast him aside… sounds terrible… (no it doesn’t) Yes he saw (virtually) all the people he’d ever known over the course of thousands of years die around him in what was comparatively hours in his time, but he held their memories, their dreams… he made countless other close friendships, surely had amazing relationships and partnerships with other heroes… saw his fair share of heroes turn evil and his fair share of villains become heroes With an unnaturally long life comes tremendous heartbreak, but you can’t discount the joys and excitement that he got to experience We all waited an eternity to exist in these brief, “blink and you’ll miss it” lives, and we have all of eternity after them to be dead… I’m in no hurry to meet eternity, and even it it takes 20 years, 200 years, 2,000 years or 20,000 years, I’ll still be dead for all eternity Eternity can wait; I’m doing just fine down here
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Even though this story is sad it shows how much Reid and the rest of the team care about Ben. It’s sad Ben can’t find a partner but it’s also sad he can’t see how much his family loves him.
I genuinely thought this would end up with Jennifer being killedby the explosion beacause a villain saw them together and used her as a trap. I did not expect that.
One of the true marvels (pun intended) with The Thing is how he's not been massively buffed-up over the past few decades, like so many characters have. He's still quite powerful but his personality (and many of his story elements) are so nicely street-level. And I love how his constant inner-doubt gives him a nice balance of thought bubbles and speech boxes.
I just discovered this channel, I had no idea that there was even one person in the world like me who considers Ben Grimm their favorite hero. Since I was 3 I was asking my Dad and Mom for toys, comics, and such of this beautiful Orange Rocked heart of gold hero. I'm 30 and that hasnt changed. I love this guy. I'm still sad that when i was a kid i gave away my favorite foot tall Ben Grimm figire to my younger cousin trying to be generous only to find out he threw it away couple years later.
Damn man I I almost started tearing up, I know all too well that devastation. Thank goodness thats in the past and these days things are SO much better
Omg omg this is the comic that got me into it all, I remember being like 7 and my parents tossed a couple comics into my room. Most of them were what I expected, good guy beats bad guy, everyone is happy until I saw this and it being so dark but edgy and cool just got me hooked right away. The Thing has always been in my top 5 and I’ll always come back to this comic as a reason why, the depth and character development is perfect.
I connected with this. I got called... a lot of things growing up, and I'm used to people looking at me weirdly. I used to play into it so that people would leave me alone. So I know it hurts like a bitch. And when you're that low, people will just take advantage. I wish I could give him a hug
The thing is, Ben's been around for like at least 15 years in-universe and he's been a beloved celebrity for most of that so it's a little strange to me when they try to bring back the 60s status quo of everyone being terrified of him. Ben's adorable! People just weren't used to him.
I hate to give you ANOTHER Thing comic to check out, but Marvel Two-In-One Annual #7 from 1982 has maybe my favorite Thing story, with him boxing an alien for the fate of the world. Whether or not you make a video about it (although I'd love to see one), you should definitely read it if you haven't. Seems up your alley.
Not my boi, not Ben, ever since i was in middle school i related more to Ben after what happened to me, two girls did a prank on me with one saying they liked me and the other recorded, and when it was all said and done they she said "oh come on, you didnt actually think i liked you?" Witch just broke me
Just... _why_ can't they just love Ben for what he fucking is? I don't get why people always look at Ben and go "ZOMG MONSTER AAAAAAAAAAA" when we've _seen_ how heroes and such look like in the Marvel Verse and yet Ben is a point too fucking far?! Also... "You could have just asked". God damn, Poor Ben...
Not if he was just buying a street taco or smth. The fact he's wearing a trench coat and visibly trying not to make a fuss is kind of a give-away he doesn't want to roughhouse at all, let alone below his weight class.
What hurts even more is that piece of Ben was from right above his heart. He gave her his heart, bloody and broken from the pain she put him through for her greed.
I can't believe I found another person who claims The Thing to be their favourite hero too. I feel like everybody always appreciates him on a wide spectrum but rarely do we see people say "yep, he's number 1" or "he's one of my favourites". It's also really, really cool to me that he's married to Alicia now with two adopted children but it seems a lot of people don't know that he's been winning lately (as much as you can if you're The Thing). If you ever feel like revisiting more Ben Grimm videos, I'd love to see them
Remember: If the writers give a sad character a lover, you should be absolutely terrified
Damn that's actually realistic 😭
That's how I feel whenever a woman likes me 😂
Griffithhhhhhhh....
Penguin
I'm too much of an underdog fan and always hoped the sad characters actually get happiness
At first I was like, damn, why didn’t you take a piece off your foot or something? But then I realized he took a piece by his heart, so I got that symbolism.
Damn it you beat me to it😂😂😂
The world was not ready for rockless thing feet
@@maicoxmauler2825Nor will it ever be
Honestly that would be absolutely agonizing, everybody who's had an ingrown toenail know that
“Scans won’t show where I’m hurt.”
“You could’ve just asked” Goddamn man that hit me way to hard
"You think I'm some freak who's into monsters?"
No lady, but anyone who wants to sleep with you clearly is such a freak. She is the real monster. No idea why there is no top comment stating this.
Don't be fooled by the crying. Someone with their brain developed this way wouldn't be capable of seeing their mistakes. She is going to inhibit it within seconds by lying to herself, that 'I'm bad, but my actions aren't bad, I had my reasons, so I'm not really bad'. What disordered psychos do.
No lie
@@lamajarmystrong91
You are a lie. Everything you do is a lie. Your woman is in fact a man, and she is mine.
Poor Ben
Being kind to people who hurt you holds a mirror up to them and they might not like what they see.
"You think i'm some freak that is into monsters"
Lady. There is only one monster here, and it isn't the man standing in front of you.
it's you Jennifer
It’s sad when one of the hulk’s tougher villians shows more respect and decency.
DARN RIGHT. Jennifer, SHE's the FREAK. AND the Monster.
You know nothing Aramil.
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Yes it is.
In context; "Scans ain't gonna pick up where I'm hurt" is one of the rawest lines in comics...
Fax I had to pause the vid on that one 🙂↔️
No
JUSTICE FOR BEN !
Fr that line hits so hard
Emotional damage can't be detected
The most unrealistic part of this is that there are apparently NO monster-F’ers in this universe. Seriously, Ben should have veritable legions of them ready to jump his rocks.
That would make his life so much worse...
The furries would be lining up to lick his salt rocks.
You saying he should start his own OF page?
If there are people that want to screw kitchen tiles the thing is not the least unfuckable thing
"Jump his rocks"
My GOD bro you did NOT have to make me laugh so hard
"You think I'm some freak who's into monsters?"
Honestly, considering the post internet world? I don't doubt the Thing would have many online simps.
There’s billions of people out there
I imagine some people have an unknown fan club for him
Lets see
big, strong, kind, caring man with a silly sense of humour and huge protective instincts?
hell yes
It's slobbering time@somenerd8401
@@clown9791 Hell yeah it is
Girl started crying after Ben gave her a piece of him. You think she realized what she said and did?
To no one's surprise, the worst day of the things life starts with a trip on the NYC subway.
Starting to think that the thing is just becoming the new spiderman at this point. Hell he even got the symbiote at one point
thankfully that was a "what if"
A little bit, I wouldn’t say it’s nearly as bad as Spider-Man. With Ben, it’s more like “Here’s a sort of what-if scenario.” With Spider-Man, it’s “here’s the absolute worst thing we can do to someone because we feel we have to at all points of the day”
Who hasn't had the symbiote?
@@rynemcgriffin1752In my opinion, I feel like some people over exaggerate on how bad Spider-Man’s life is. To me his life is pretty decent. Sure he loses his loved ones and has bad things happen to him which is still terrible. But It’s apart of being a Hero. If I were to choose who has the worst life, would probably be Wolverine. Because every year when it’s his Birthday SaberTooth comes and makes his life a living hell. The Thing. Because he feels alienated by people that he has once lived with. And that alienation causes him to disconnect from his teammates/friends. I know that in a majority stories Spider-Man has suffered, but can we at least not act like he’s the only hero that has suffered casualties or harm inflicted by someone. Especially in other stories like, Punisher vs The Marvel Universe, Marvel Zombies and more.
@@bleach9520 That’s what I was trying to say but I just got off work and was tired
He metaphorically ripped out his heart by taking the rock that's placed over it. That's the cherry on top that makes this story truly spectacular.
Getting punched by World War Hulk would be far less painful than what Jennifer did. At least Hulk is honest and straightforward.
And that's why they're friends. Because deep down, they're the epitome of good, and honest. Albeit, for the hulk, he truly is a monster..
Hulk honestest there is!
Green Scar Hulk you mean.
@@Chuckles3100 they are the same thing with different names
If Hulk were there, he'd verbally smash Jennifer.
*Hulk:* Hulk know what it like to be used. Hulk used to it. All Orange Man wanted was to be treated no different than you, puny girl. Orange Man may be big and rocky, but Orange Man has feelings too. And you smash them worse than I could ever do to this world. For shame puny girl. For shame. You not worth smashing in any context.
Him telling her the last few weeks were special is the worst part of this to me. He’s not mad at her for not loving him at all because he doesn’t even blame her, he just really let himself believe he met someone who was different and saw through it all. Despite how she treated him in the end she still made him feel happiness for the first time in a long time, and having it ripped away like that is just devastating.
The fact she cries after hearing him say "You could have just asked..." that shows at least in my view she realises she's a horrible person and knows she cannot undo the damage done.
Bet she still uses that skin sample to get rich, though. 😎
It looks like she tried to hurt him deliberately so he'd react angrily, letting her feel right for judging him based on his looks alone. Since he reacted to being hurt so deeply by literally giving her what she wanted even after being devastated like that, I think you're right. She was forced to acknowledge that he was truly a decent person inside and out, and that she had done everything in her power to show how cruel she could be to someone who truly cared about her.
After all, what kind of person does that to someone? A monster.
@@Azteceda a true "who's the monster now" moment
The true monster was the bitch that broke his heart, monsters exist even inside the heart
No wonder her company losing money. Probably she treated her employees the same and thats why her company failing to begin with.
The fact that the chunk of skin he gave was his left chest piece. Just shows he was heart broken.
"Scans ain't gonna pick up where I'm hurt."
Ouch... just... ouch.
Yeah. JEEZ that was Terrible... THing Just got his Heart SHATTERED... Hit him WAY HARDER then any Villain Did... THis was Ben GRimm's/The THing's BIGGEST DEFEAT EVER which hurt Most.
I feel like reed could take that as a challenge and invent a scanner that actually can detect heartbreak. That seems like something he could actually figure out if he put his mind to it.
Dr doom: that was hard even for me
The worst part is that he gave her many, many, outs and even got to know each other even gaining his trust, and she never once thought to change her approach and just say what she actually wanted.
Oh man you just made this whole comic hurt more! :( Oh my goodness I didn't even think about that.
God I hate seeing the Thing be treated this dirty.😩🐱
yeah him and spiderman are having it ROUGH to say the least. it's like the writers have some sorta personal vendetta against them.
yeah, the desire to just be human is beyond anyone who can understand. It kinds reminds me of Killer Croc.
@@jacyhoogvliets5716 the difference is that Killer Croc can embrace being treated like a monster and actually be one. Ben does not. And that's what makes him so endearing.
that cat emoji makes no sense in the context of this comment
this good story writing it's a monster he can't clobber , it gives him character as sorry as u feel for him u still respect him unlike what they do to Peter Parker.
the worst she can says "no" ahh moment 5:27
you mean "the worst she can say is 'no'" ?
Jennifer biting the curb 4k 120fps
😭
thats not funny do you understand how messed up that is?
REAL
@@SanTheMann she earned it tbh
@@SanTheMannShe not real bro
6:32 that panel goes hard tho
The shading on his skin is gorgeous at representing the darkness he feels in his heart
One thing I don't get is why, in the Marvel Universe - where there are so many mutants and aliens and other strange creatures - the Thing is seen by the public as an unspeakable monster. I'd wager he's less frightening looking than many who don't get the same "ahhhh, monster!" storylines
Probably because most of them look human. In the xmen, they have ways to hide their powers, avengers are basically celebrities, and others don't really care. The thing has no way to hide his powers and people will always be afraid of others who look different
I think it’s cause bro just walks through the middle of New York. There’s bound to be someone freaked out. But the fact he talks completely normal kinda ruins it for how often it happens to him.
This story is pretty dark for Ben, but in others he can show his face without causing a ruckus. He is quite a celebrity, like the rest of the 4F, and a big part of NY is used to his looks.
I guess the problem is people from outside NY. Also, there are many people that hadn't any real contact with mutants and aliens besides the TV, so it's understandable they react extremely when they finally met one.
@@jamesroad316 Aren't F4 also celebrities? They have their own HQ in the penthouse of Baxter Building, they do not have secret identities, all of that.
So in my opinion people should already be accustomed to Ben being there. I mean yeah he's a big rock golem but he's not destroying the city or anything. Just...chilling.
Because muh fear of the unknown
Nice to see the Spiderman writers branching out.
Ben dating someone that isn't Alicia? Yeah that's the first hint that something is gonna go wrong.
Yeah she was the 1 out of the people he's had that kind of relationship with who loved him for who he was on the inside not the outside
He dated she Thing
@@stevenwayman4950 SHE-THING?!?! The Thing got it worse than Spiderman! I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS! 😂
"Scans Aint gonna pick up ,where I am Hurt.."
Dude, that got me...
Everyone talks about how shitty Spidey's life is but Thing's usually up there in terms of suffering
At least Peter can walk down the street in regular clothes. Ben can’t leave the house.
@@russellharrell2747yea I don’t get it Ben looks awesome he’s a big orange buff rock man who is kind and saves people I swear random comic book background characters are npcs bro
Yeah at least with Peter most of the time his suffering is the result of his own dumb decisions, the Thing never asked for this
@@ironmaster6496
Not all the time. Sometime Peter just has it bad. At least he and Ben are best friends.
Get the jackal to make a composite clone of Ben, Peter, Matt, Mr immortal, and Howard the duck then he’d have created the ultimate loser in the universe.
6:27 love the attention to detail where the part he ripped is also where is heart is
Some Marvel Heroes like the Thing and the X-Men are like the retail workers of the Marvel Universe, they do their intended job and still get shit from civilians for it.
... should have done better at School. Your teachers warned you and warned you of the fate that was yours, if you didnt heed the words.
@@joedent3323Ah, yes, we just shouldn't have sympathy for people who make mistakes, if that's even why they're in that position.
@@joedent3323 Try To Have Basic Empathy Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
@@joedent3323 Tell that to all the people with Bachelors and Masters who still can't find a job and career.
@@joedent3323 I’m guessing you’ve got a dent in both your name and your head.
Ben dressed like a 50’s detective like the ninja turtles.
It's also pretty sad that his only real girlfriend is a literal blind woman. In order for The Thing to find happiness, he has to be with someone who is incapable of seeing his form and is forced to see the man on the inside.
Ben is a representation of the extremely self-conscious person who always feels out of place. No one sees him, and when they do, they want him to go away/run from him. His friends are all amazing with powers they can turn off and on at will while he's forever stuck being ugly. They get all the positive attention and he gets all the negative.
It's no wonder the guy is depressed all the time.
I mean, the blind woman can touch him and notice the hard rock skin.
She may not know how he looks exactly, but she knoes he isn't a regular human.
@@manzanito3652that could be anything. A skin condition, mutants exists in this universe and much more.
😢
Not really sad. More happy that someone treated him as he ought to be - a person. Idk what's so sad about that besides the fact that for all he's done, so many still treat him like a monster when there's so little who don't (at least from what we see)
I think it’s more that Alicia. I think Thts her name is used to loving people for what’s not on the outside. She def knows he’s diff and rocky everywhere. But I don’t think it matters to her because appearance never mattered before why would it just cuz he’s a rock guy yk. She one of those people who just loves personalities but when ur blind ig u gotta be. But idk seems more genuine
Doctor Doom: “Dayum. Too far. Too far.”
How does the Thing do the Thing, while doing the Thing in the Thing?
I think the thing is the Thing can’t do the thing because the Thing’s thing is now like the rest of the Thing, making doing the thing with the Thing not an enjoyable thing.
@@Lawrence_TalbotBut what if the Thing’s thing isn’t like the rest of the Thing, meaning he can do the thing but when his thing is finished, the Thing expels Thing-like things from his thing?
@@kingvulcoon1752Well I assume the thing with The Thing's thing is like the rest of the thing, but the other thing with The Thing's thing is that it still might be a thing The Thing can do the thing with. Maybe The Thing's thing is always doing the thing thing's do and isnt entirely too different to other things. As they say everything's a thing if your thing can handle a thing.
@@dippin4dotsThe Things thing must be a mad ting ya know Bumbaclot bet he Smash up the ting nicely that bad man thing with his ting jesus christ pussyclat ting must sing real general that Thing there. 🇯🇲 😅
it pops out of him like a rock-rocket
“I… I actually thought you were my friend” 😢
The thing has always been one of my favourite superheros and this story just adds to how much i love him as a character.
Becoming a lifeless chair for Dr Doom to sit on in Fortnite 💀
At least the Thing isnt concious like Mr Inballable.
That ending reminds me of that "It all started when i was born" scene from SpongeBob.
Ben doesn't deserve this crap, he never has. He's a good person, with a good heart. And the fact he wasn't even angry, just sad and alone, says so much about what feeling like a person again means to him. People look at him and see a monster, but at the end of the day, mutated or not, he's human. For her to say such horrible things to him, and his response simply being to give her what she wants so he can hold himself together and get away...its heartbreaking.
The worst part about the story is that it’s pretty realistic. I can see it happening if superheroes were plausible. Some people have no shame.
You don't need superheroes for this to be realistic. Just substitute how Ben looks with being smart and introverted in the 80s (for example) and the violent nature of the conflict with being led on, used, and exploited for some other purpose, only to be crushed when the truth is revealed. It does happen. It's happened for decades. And given human nature, it'll probably happen until the human race snuffs itself out.
Your channel has garnered a newfound adoration for The Thing and more importantly, Ben Grimm in me. Thank you Mullet-Man.
One of those stories where literally all I can say at the end is "bruh 😭"
Real
I say “ OH COME ONNNN “
Thank you for this. I’ve been into the FF since the mid 1960’s and the ones where they explore the heart and soul of Ben Grimm have been some of the very best. Pathos is a subject only rarely explored in Marvel. And it is best done when exploring the lives of those who endure the most disfigurement to gain their power. Thank you for this.
Made me shed some tears to be honest. One of my favorite marvel characters. Like many he doesn’t deserve the treatment people give him. Hate to see him be hurt.
This issues hurts. I've haven't felt like this since a Spider-Man issue.
“Susie, look at me. You got no idea what I'd…what I'd give to be invisible”
-Ben Grimm, Fantastic Four (2005)
“At least I’m not a dirty ni--”
-Ben Grimm, Fantastic Four (2024)
ngl, this panel 4:56 is absolutely comedy lmao
That's a thousand yard stare, and you're laughing
@@xSmuggenHow about another joke Murray?
Man I love monster based characters because you can tell stories like this. To show that they’re more than what they look and just want to love and respected.
The Things greatest super power is not his invulnerability, but his will to resist becoming a supervillain.
Dont think ive ever been so blind furious at a comic book side character.
I mean, Doom is petty, sure, but this is just a disgusting betrayal of trust that even he would find disgraceful
Symbolically he took the panel of skin off of where he heart was right underneath it
I feel sorry for Ben he tries so hard to be a hero for all hope but people see him as just a monster made out of rocks and I don’t blame him for arguing with Reed for trying to make him human. This has to be saddest thing I seen Ben be. You know it’s been years why hasn’t Reed figure out a cure for his appearance? Love this channel ❤🖤
It's one of the key parts of his character. We wouldn't get incredible stories like this if he was cured.
@@MichaelDeHaven
It's just the suspension of disbelief.
We're made to think that Mr Fantastic is the smartest man in the world. Not just any world, but the world of Marvel Comics that is full of geniuses, marvels of science and magic.
If so, how come that he didn't cure his friend yet after a decade or two?
The only logical reason you could think of would be, that he didn't really try.
@@eomin There's been stories that explored this and it's a pretty constant source of friction between the two when Ben is feeling particularly alienated.
Is it bad I feel like the thing all the time
@@darkestgreed , You Ain't Alone, Pal...and it Ain't pretty...
The epitome of "Sticks and stones cant hurt my bones, but hurtfull words wounds me"
Or, my favorite variation: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me"
This is just so sad, I finally get why The Thing wants to be human so bad he gives the symbiote a shot, when you made the symbiote video I didnt understand why he would go to such lenghts to look human again, now I do
Ben really deserves an hug, and that monster could have literally asked. She had absolutely no reason to do that.
The Thing is, no one could endure what the thing has to go through..
This is such a top tier writing on how to hurt an nearly undestructible character, The Thing is a real embodiment of people who always get judged by their appearances(in negative way) but it's actually quite on the contrary inside
THE ENDING CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD 😭
What comic is that 😭
@@Memb3rs-only It's mentioned at 0:45, the comic is Marvel Adventures #17
@@eddiemate thanks
@@eddiemate I think he's talking about the Fantastic Four fusion monster at the end of the video.
Doge 🔫
Seeing amazing comic stories like this is what makes me worried about the upcoming fantastic four movie. Developing 4 of them with this kind of quality within a 2 hour runtime doesn't seem optimal. But I'd love to be proven wrong
if the thing can bust, it probably feels like he's busting kidney stones
The Thing is such a good-hearted guy.
This opened an old wound, that pain isn't universal, can't be replicated but is done at least once in someone's lifetime.
5:42 the fact that this is actually relatable💀💀💀
Yeah I'm a rock person and I constantly tear pieces of myself off.
@@thesmileman6931 no, the fact that no one loves me💀💀💀
@@SpiderBrine42God loves you
A fun reminder, that the marvel adventures was the all ages line.
It’s where we got Hulk making bullseye pay taxes, ultron being a creation of shield, the nicest version of the character hatemonger, Emma frost: love interest of Spider-Man , Wolverine revealing he read watchmen, and Ben Grimm getting his heart torn worse than temple of doom.
Living to 6,000 yrs old, seeing all of Human society make stride after stride, advancements that even Reed likely could’ve never fathomed and seemingly finding acceptance among those that millennia past would’ve just as quickly cast him aside… sounds terrible… (no it doesn’t)
Yes he saw (virtually) all the people he’d ever known over the course of thousands of years die around him in what was comparatively hours in his time, but he held their memories, their dreams… he made countless other close friendships, surely had amazing relationships and partnerships with other heroes… saw his fair share of heroes turn evil and his fair share of villains become heroes
With an unnaturally long life comes tremendous heartbreak, but you can’t discount the joys and excitement that he got to experience
We all waited an eternity to exist in these brief, “blink and you’ll miss it” lives, and we have all of eternity after them to be dead… I’m in no hurry to meet eternity, and even it it takes 20 years, 200 years, 2,000 years or 20,000 years, I’ll still be dead for all eternity
Eternity can wait; I’m doing just fine down here
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Good shit. 👌🏽
Even though this story is sad it shows how much Reid and the rest of the team care about Ben. It’s sad Ben can’t find a partner but it’s also sad he can’t see how much his family loves him.
Damn, that shit was COLD! I would rather see our boy stomped by the Hulk than hurt like that...😔
honestly that's the saddest THING i have ever heard
Yeah...this was REALLY sad. glad Ben could have her feel ashamed of herself
I genuinely thought this would end up with Jennifer being killedby the explosion beacause a villain saw them together and used her as a trap. I did not expect that.
must’ve been a tough pick
💀💀😭
One of the true marvels (pun intended) with The Thing is how he's not been massively buffed-up over the past few decades, like so many characters have. He's still quite powerful but his personality (and many of his story elements) are so nicely street-level. And I love how his constant inner-doubt gives him a nice balance of thought bubbles and speech boxes.
Marvel universe humans see aliens and world destroying monsters but still surprised seeing The Thing😂
Jeniffer crying and feeling bad, in her mind, is her paying for what she did to grim. I know people like her she wouldn’t change a bit after this.
I just discovered this channel, I had no idea that there was even one person in the world like me who considers Ben Grimm their favorite hero. Since I was 3 I was asking my Dad and Mom for toys, comics, and such of this beautiful Orange Rocked heart of gold hero. I'm 30 and that hasnt changed. I love this guy. I'm still sad that when i was a kid i gave away my favorite foot tall Ben Grimm figire to my younger cousin trying to be generous only to find out he threw it away couple years later.
Damn man I I almost started tearing up, I know all too well that devastation.
Thank goodness thats in the past and these days things are SO much better
Jennifer could've actually just cry her eyes out on Ben's shoulders and be honest but she just took the expensive and contrived route. *sigh*
2:15 ofc he is 6ft tall i'm not surprise
Omg omg this is the comic that got me into it all, I remember being like 7 and my parents tossed a couple comics into my room. Most of them were what I expected, good guy beats bad guy, everyone is happy until I saw this and it being so dark but edgy and cool just got me hooked right away. The Thing has always been in my top 5 and I’ll always come back to this comic as a reason why, the depth and character development is perfect.
I connected with this. I got called... a lot of things growing up, and I'm used to people looking at me weirdly. I used to play into it so that people would leave me alone. So I know it hurts like a bitch. And when you're that low, people will just take advantage. I wish I could give him a hug
I can 100% relate to him, I know EXACTLY how he feels....
I always liked that the Thing had his wife in the movies. It was nice to see him have somebody love him despite his appearance for once.
Damn, I found this comic at a flea market when I was younger, can’t believe it showed up here on your channel!
The thing is, Ben's been around for like at least 15 years in-universe and he's been a beloved celebrity for most of that so it's a little strange to me when they try to bring back the 60s status quo of everyone being terrified of him. Ben's adorable! People just weren't used to him.
I hate to give you ANOTHER Thing comic to check out, but Marvel Two-In-One Annual #7 from 1982 has maybe my favorite Thing story, with him boxing an alien for the fate of the world. Whether or not you make a video about it (although I'd love to see one), you should definitely read it if you haven't. Seems up your alley.
I remember that. It was the inspiration for the Dial M for Monkey episode "Rasslor".
@@mitchfletcher2386 THAT was the show! I saw that as a kid before I came across the comic, but I couldn't remember the name of it. Thanks!
I recall the first time Rogue fought him, she absorbed his powers expecting him to be a bad person, and feeling surprised he was a really good man.
I like the little videos. I like the long videos too. Especially when they are summaries of comics this fucking heart wrenching.
you don't understand how crazy it is when you feel wanted and vulnerable just for it to be a facade
Oh god.... I remember stumbling on this comic once on the Marvel website at random. Man it punches right in the feels.
That pause between "what time it is" and "clobberin time" in such a plain voice made me die laughing
Thing, hulk and Spiderman.... really can't take a break
"Scan ain't gonna pick up where I'm hurt." 😭😭😭😭 Legit made me tear up
I was just browsing comic TH-cam when I came across your channel, and Jesus, you actually bummed me out. But at least you earned a subscriber.
can you imagine being a mugger and then out of nowhere a guy who has punched galactus breaks up your mugging
like man.
Not my boi, not Ben, ever since i was in middle school i related more to Ben after what happened to me, two girls did a prank on me with one saying they liked me and the other recorded, and when it was all said and done they she said "oh come on, you didnt actually think i liked you?" Witch just broke me
“Scans ain’t gonna pick up where I’m hurt.”
Just... _why_ can't they just love Ben for what he fucking is? I don't get why people always look at Ben and go "ZOMG MONSTER AAAAAAAAAAA" when we've _seen_ how heroes and such look like in the Marvel Verse and yet Ben is a point too fucking far?!
Also... "You could have just asked".
God damn, Poor Ben...
If you saw a walking rock you’d scream too
Not if he was just buying a street taco or smth.
The fact he's wearing a trench coat and visibly trying not to make a fuss is kind of a give-away he doesn't want to roughhouse at all, let alone below his weight class.
What hurts even more is that piece of Ben was from right above his heart.
He gave her his heart, bloody and broken from the pain she put him through for her greed.
Damn, that was a real downer.
Ben getting on the same bench Peter and Frank sit for "Heroes the writers love to drag in the shitter"
_"To see if it's.... CLOBBERING TIME."_ 😎
I can't believe I found another person who claims The Thing to be their favourite hero too. I feel like everybody always appreciates him on a wide spectrum but rarely do we see people say "yep, he's number 1" or "he's one of my favourites". It's also really, really cool to me that he's married to Alicia now with two adopted children but it seems a lot of people don't know that he's been winning lately (as much as you can if you're The Thing). If you ever feel like revisiting more Ben Grimm videos, I'd love to see them
Who gave ben spiderman writers give this man a good story once in a while