DMC5 proves that "what worked then works even better now and if it doesnt it's on the devs for not making it work stop blaming on the times" srsly fuck the modern trend of video games. When i play video games, i want to play the game itself.
@@cloud-lbc Damn golden comment, absolutely nailed it. Pretentious game journo's that can't be half decent at a game if they tried, love it cause its "sooo cinematic". Rather having to work at learning a game.
@@RobCastov srsly everytimes a gaming journalist opens their mouth, i just wanna tape it back in. Your incompetence combined with whining is just disgraceful, and harms the gaming industry so much
It was like the theme of E3 this year with Prey, Quake, Zelda, Resident Evil. Fuck having your own identity lets just be off brand X and hope it makes just as much money like all those successful WOW and COD clones right?
It only sold 5 million copies. That's pretty small considering a brand new ip named ghost of tsushima already outsold it and it's been out for 2 years lol
@@introduction1266so you are saying that ghost of tsushima is better than DMC 5. Are you serious. DMC 5 is the epitomy of action game genre with nearly unlimited replayability. But will you play ghost of tsushima and praise the long walking sections again and again for wasting your time . You cannot be creative in ghost of tsushima with your moves the way you can in DMC 5. These are games not movies. Wake up brother.
@@debashisprasadjena5075 that's exactly what I think. Forgot what I said but that sounds about right. Bro obviously if it was the "epitomy" it would had sold more than 5 million copies. Ghost is like at 10 million and an exclusive. There are no long walking sections in ghost and if there were short ones with characters interacting and Iooking at the beautiful world I wouldn't mind at all. Hell I slow down all the time by myself and just walk through this beautiful island. No problem at all...that's the problem with you guys. Always want action all the time and never stop to just relax and live in the moment. No wonder why yall never immersed. The only limit to creativity in ghost is you...it has a pleura of moves and stuff to use. You're right it's not a movie...it's an interactive experience. Lol I find it hilarious how you got the nerve to tell me to wake up 🤣. Take your own advice
@@introduction1266 not much people push themself enough play an engaging game nowdays but that doesn't mean that the other games like ghost of tsushima are better, they just appeal more to the casual audience. Look at the last of us 2 it won the game of the year award but can you call it a good game.
@@introduction1266 Yeah but your argument is that since ghost sold more copies it's automatically better? Seriously come on you can do better than that. And DMC 5's combat is much better. Just play it yourself or at least watch a walkthrough of it.
Which doesn't make sense since Kojima and so many other great devs actually did try film school first. These people seem to barely know how storytelling even works much less how to handle a decent combat system.
***** What? Am I supposed to be impressed that the animations work and it doesn't just not play like in the old days of NES games? I didn't know I was a joke for having standards.
Thanatos388 You aren't supposed to be nothing. You can feel what ever you want, but when you say that that combat looked undecent, when i have played games much much worse... i got a problem with that then.
Where does this fucking sentiment of "videogames have finally grown up" stem from? The Last Of Us? Fuck, Silent Hill 2 was more complex, deep and 'grown up' than any of these scripted walking-and-talking 'action' games. And Silent Hill 2 came out 15 years ago. Hell, why not go back further to Planescape: Torment, that's 17 years ago. Or when we're talking waking-and-talking, how about classic adventures? One of my favorites, Beneath A Steel Sky, great story, 22 years old. That's older than the average Last of Us player. Video Games have not grown up. They're sacrificing what made the medium unique to seem that way, when we had games with good stories and characters since the early 90s.
people who think that video games have finally "grown up" and that older games are "Neanderthalic" need to get over themselves and accept the basic fact that *new doesn't equate to quality*, and that they are being childish themselves for thinking that older games are "less mature". For instance where as I couldn't care less for the plot of FFXIII, Final Fantasy IX is one of much more compelling to me. While it has a more cartoony art-style, the game's plot and themes of *life vs death* are so well executed and more mature than anything in those "realistic" games. The characters in FFIX deal with emotions, identity, and whether or not their lives mean anything. In fact the final boss fight, while a lot of people criticize it for being out of nowhere, is basically serving as an argument over *whether or not life means anything*. It utilizes its themes in such a creative way while also letting the game be a game. And people who think that a something with a cartoony art-style can't be taken seriously need to watch the anime series *KAIBA* to see how tell really tell a mature story.
From journalists, I guess? They love to proliferate effuse praise about games like this. As if old games didn't have great, memorable stories (often without sacrificing gameplay or pushing the technology or whatever). Guess they have to justify their bloated scores and advertisements. It's pretentious. They seem to hold that because gaming is this big industry, and millions go into these AAA titles, and OH THE GRAPHIX, and artistic debate... maybe because this is all we're getting, they think they need to justify what is happening, justify their time and money commitment too. Or they get blinded by a lack of options, so they forget that games used to do more with less.
I actually used to be one of those "Videogames have finally grown up" people and praised Halo: Reach for making the FPS genre "complex" and "story-driven", and thought everyone who hated the game had poor taste. All the way up until a couple of years ago when a friend recommended I play Deus Ex (2000), his favorite game of all time. Holy fuck what an eye opener, I never knew game mechanics could be intertwined so flawlessly with the story. My gameplay decisions had actual impact without the dumb "do you choose good or evil?" cutscene prompts. The amount of actual, currently relevant philosophy in the story was also staggering. I'm currently going through the Baldur's Gate games and loving it, planning on doing Planescape and fallout next. There's a whole world of games I just missed out on for years because I thought they'd be outdated.
Oh my god, somebody actually made a video about this I swear, between being weirded out by this and RE7 I thought I'd just become so out of touch with what GoW even was anymore lol
Yeah but then he made a video about how Zelda totally isn't doing the exact same thing because each one is different or some shit. The new Zelda looks boring as shit for all the same reasons MGSV did. According to most this is "progress" finally Zelda is like every other game I play instead of having its own personality!
Yeah, I don't even know how to feel about RE7 yet. the demo is just a tiny part of the experience, but I hope the whole game isn't just walking around a really dark environment in first person looking for story bits and scripted scares with minimal combat. Hopefully the RE2 remake can scratch that classic Resident Evil itch.
Thanatos388 I guess we can at least expect Zelda to be finished! Genericdude My biggest fear (lol) came from all this supernatural haunted-house type shit in the demo. Like, I get it. Amnesia and P.T. had supernatural elements in them, but RE has pretty much been about sci-fi/body horror. I feel like people who say 'well RE4 was so different' kinda miss the point I'm trying to make. It's not the gameplay that I expect to really not gel well (even though I am sick and tired of first person horror at this point), its that I think calling this RE is very much a cash-in. GoW feels like this to me as well. Use a popular series to prop up your new IP, rather than taking the risk on its own universe for folks to get into. 'Who cares if it's nothing like the tone or themes or even the gameplay of the previous installments! Sheeple will buy it anyway!' - A scummy CEO
HeWhoEnjoysTehVids That and RE4 was doing something new to the genre of third person shooter games and set a trend and still being true to the tank control roots. Now RE is following a trend because they are scared of risks.
What are videogames anymore? Like, what's with these devs obsession to make their games "epic" , "cinematic" and "meaningful". What about "fun"? Isn't that a priority when making a game? Or am I growing too old for videogames?
They've grown lazy, "epic, cinematic and meaningful" are their excuses to give you the most production values and in-game cutscenes and acting, with minimal gameplay
th-cam.com/video/lit0xPh_v5c/w-d-xo.html It's kind of an old video, but he makes good points about how "fun" actually means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.
I totally agree about this whole "gow is mature!!!!" even though the old games were also mature, it might seem like kratos is just a justice angry bastard sparta, but oh boy his back story itself just makes the new gow stories even better
It's been 'updated for a modern audience' like the majority have and people will just lap that shit up regardless if the game has any actual engaging gameplay whatsoever.
It really hurts how true this bullshit approach came to life. The whole "being more than a game" or "an emotional game" is the reason gaming is dying. Companies think activity avoid making their video games "gamy" and more story-focused. Even Nier-Automata did that bullshit
while I don't mind the fact that he's finally moved on I can definitely see the game play being a huge problem. God of War was already kind of boring to begin with but at least it had some substance in its gameplay. This! This is making it "Uncharted" boring. with mechanics that are so dumb down that a toddler can also play it
Mr.SilentProtagonist they put too much focus on being cinematic rather than being fun *games*. There's stories get better about their game play keeps getting worse and worse. The only time I can say that they try to improve upon the game play while making it feel cinematically natural is when they get their Japanese Studio to make a game. Everywhere else it just try to take a page from Hollywood
Samir Malik I think that it is Sony being too observant of reviewers and making "reviewer friendly games". tLoU and Uncharted 4 look like every other third person shooter out there but people act like it is the second coming of Christ.
Apparently even Until Dawn sold well, and that was nothing but a CG horror movie barely disguised as a game. It would be such a hassle to "play" that compared to how convenient it is watching it online (free and on any device) that they would really have to pay me to do it.
I can't wait for Capcom to revive the Megaman series with a new reboot where Megaman is a robocop-like amputee with a drinking problem. It'll have a behind-the-shoulder camera that is fixed, and minimal gameplay in exchange for more scripted events and dialogue. Instead of gaining the powers of bosses he defeats, Megaman gains crafting components so you can craft your own weapons, which are basically all the same but with a different color. You'll have to protect his little sister, Roll, during the entire game, as he teaches her how to be a Megaperson like a parental figure, since their real parents died in some tragic backstory involving the villain of the game being pissy at the fact that they had a half-machine son. Now Megaman and his sister are on a quest not only to avenger their parents, but also to stop the evil Dr. Wily who somehow turned most of the world into a cinematic wasteland, and has an evil army oppressing the innocent Megacivilians, and there's a cool rebel army, with a leader who is a member of a minority because of reasons. The second-in-command is known simply as "Zero" and is a badass, silent dude who likes to stand in ledges and brood over places, and has cryptic dialogue that is supposedly deep or something, fuck, I dunno. Also you can buy a Day One DLC to play as him. Its just a re-skin, though, not a new story or anything like that. The game will deal with totally original issues like trans-humanism due to Megaman being part robot and there's evil purists and shit. The final battle against the dude who killed Mega's parents will happen at night, in a storm, with a HUGE full moon and be REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY slow paced because of cinematic reasons. Then if you beat the game without ever taking any damage, and only killing enemies with the starting melee weapons, a small window will be open during an escape-sequence in which you must run, so its REALLY hard to see. But if you do it, you'll notice there is a red hat with a letter "M" on it as an Easter Egg. Nintendo will then sue Capcom for copyright reasons and the world will blow up or sumthin i dunno
You forgot the part where we would see Dr.White brutally murdered at the beginning too give us our first "feels" moment. And then Rush would die halfway through because killing a pet in a game is sure to pull everyone's strings and get you that 9 out o 10 score. Also throughout the entire game, you will be reminded/offered that one can simply bypass the boss characters and get the equipment one would earn from fighting them through...microtrasnactions. Just buy all the crap and forget the game :) Only 5 bucks for one crate.
I can see it now... Devil may cry 5 to take inspiration from the critically acclaimed batman arkham franchise "A true evolution of the stylish character action genre" devs say. Devil may cry 5 to take ques from the last of us and feature a more "dramatic heart felt story" says producer.
Devil May Cry will take cues the critically acclaimed Metal Gear Solid 5 where the first part will be sold separately, will have a barren open world, and the final act doesn't exist says voice actor of Kratos
-Ascension came out. It didn't perform well commercially or critically. -Last of Us is a third person game -Last of Us was overly cinematic that told a story involving the bond between a child and a father figure. The game came out a few months after Ascension and was hugely successful -Last of Us had a hunting segment in the woods during winter. -GoW is third person all of a sudden. -GoW is overly cinematic all of a sudden. -The new GoW demo takes place in the woods during winter where Kratos (father figure) and his son (child) go on a hunting trip. Just thought I'd point that out.
It hurts that companies will take things like this to mean "people don't want X game anymore" Instead of "the game we made was bad, that's why it didn't do well"
I like the recent comments that are telling Brit how wrong he was and that the game got perfect scores, even though he predicted the game will get perfect scores regardless in the video... Guess some people didn't have the patience to watch it fully and decided to be all defensive without even listening to him first.
because the sonycucks fantards must praise every shit sony throws at them , even if i film myself raping their wives with my BBC and sell it as a game , if the game has the sony word over there they WILL buy it and love it , like the cucks that they are
Jonathan Lando I'm not saying you have to agree with Brit 100%. That said, I've seen let's plays a of this new GOW. Nothing about it impresses me. FYI, I'm the kind of guy who is into hack n' slash games of the crazy variety. Devil May Cry, Bayonetta (or most of Platinum's games for that matter), Ninja Gaiden, even games like Darksiders or Castlevania Lords of Shadows (despite not being full hack n' slash games). You know, the kind of genre the old GOW fit in. I never liked the sluggish Dark Souls-like combat. Heck, Dark Souls isn't even a hack n' slash and anyone who thinks that don't know what they're talking about. But at least the combat in Dark Souls was deliberately sluggish to set in the feeling of hopelessness, since everybody is on an even playing filed. Most of Dark Souls depth lies in stat and build management anyway, not moment to moment gameplay. This new GOW is trying to ape that Dark Souls methodical/sluggish combat while also trying to be God of War, but also wanting to have that Last of Us feel... which for me personally doesn't work. Nioh did this more methodical combat way better. And God Hand, another 3rd person brawler (a game from the PS2 era IGN gave a 3/10... for some reason), just puts whatever combat this new GOW has to shame.
TBH the original GoW was slammed for this exact reason. Sony has always been aiming for a more "cinematic" and "adult" experience. It's a direction they've been going in since Playstation started.
Well, actually if you're in the camp that believes games like this are interactive stories then people are more than happy to buy them without a famous name slapped on it, example include but are not limited to The Last of Us and The Order 1886.
hey atleast Telltale *Games* have Good Writing which is why their games are so beloved atleast their recent titles. but i honestly hope that the Gamer market doesen`t get too filled with interactive Movies.
Sure, teleporting Zombies in the TWD every time they wanted Dramatic scenes. If you digest the story as you do here, you will find mold holes everywhere.
Is the gameplay actually good tho? I wanna buy this game sometime but i am seriously afraid i will waste my money on another interactive movie after i completed The Last Of Us and got bored for the most part because of the mediocre gameplay...
Cinematic doesn’t mean a movie game I mean come on by now I have played lot of these games like uncharted last of us None of them felt like I was watching a movie Or rather I was part of there adventure Same goes for god of war
Caleb Imrie dude you are not very smart huh? It has a father-son story so it's obviously The Last of us. It's in norse mythology so it's obviously skyrim. It has rpg customization so it's obviously Shadow of War. That shit is so ridiculous.
What did that "it's a script, it's not a game script" part come from? That pisses me off, I hate it when people, especially actual developers say shit like this. As if games are inherently inferior to movies, fuck off with that. Games can and have had great stories that are on par if not better than movies, and they also have the benefit of lasting more than 2 hours and actually being fun to play.
It's like they are humiliated to be making games at all. Have you seen the interviews by people who made the Order? "We are a game company, we make games. It's really hard trying to work around that." It's like living in a bizzaro world.
Yeah you're right (sarcasm) except have you played the game? No? Then shut the fuck up. You can't judge a game based on the fact theres a demo and a developer said a stupid thing.
You haven't played it either so what makes you think it will be good? As someone whose been playing games all my life I think I can tell whether a game is good or bad by looking at it. But I wasn't even talking about the quality of the game, I was talking about how developers act like movies are superior to games. And if developers are prioritizing story over gameplay, there's a good chance the game will be shit, much like the order 1886.
***** I never said I thought it was gonna be good. I sort of agree with you're later points but what I'm saying is you can't have a full opinion on the game yet because it hasn't been released and something developers say.
***** "Yeah here at Bethesda we are very excited for the remastered Skyrim but we could never do that for Morrowind because like.....have you seen how many dialogue choices you have in that game for ever npc? You can't give that to modern gamers lol!"
Who litterally gives a single shit whether you can jump or not? Oh yeah, this game will be terrible if I can’t randomly look like fucking mario for no reason.
JOANY because that is what gameplay is built on, Nintendo has discovered that shit with the nes, not mention this is a 3d game which makes jumping MORE important
One thing I noticed in interviews is the developers keep referring to Kratos indepedently of the player. They keep saying "he" or "him" and never say "the player". I think that's a really bad sign of things to come. Kratos isn't an autonomous being, he shouldn't be doing anything in-game that the player isn't responsible for.
*Heres why this happened:* Sony: "hmmm, people really liked our cinematic, story heavy games like Last of Us and Uncharted so lets do that to God of war too because who needs gameplay when we got story?!?!?!"
"Kratos is deep now." First game in the series opens with Kratos, a broken man, attempting to jump off a cliff. Calliope has a few moments in Chains of Olympus that Atreus wishes he could come close to. And she's freaking dead! Does anyone remember Pandora? You know the child who DIDN'T ask to be fed her own teeth every time she opened her mouth. The child that didn't speak like she was about to pull out a skateboard and sunglasses... in mythological times. The child who didn't require leveling up and crafting "armor".
Finally, someone who fuckin' got it. People who say that Kratos is deeper (or more mature) are just woke gamers related to political points of views. They miss that he was a deep and complex character since the beginning: a broken toy of the gods that takes revenge on them turning a Greek tragedy into epic
Pandora: Hope is what makes us strong. It is why we are here. It is what we fight with when all else is lost Atreus: ugh I'm a god no time to deal with little people's little problems. Whatever 🤪
It was an attempt at being deep but it was a poor one. You want us to be emotional attached to someone who kills everybody in the most brutal way possible and is angry most of the time. No he is deep now.
@@introduction1266 Kratos starts off sympathetic and over the series you see him blame everyone else but himself for his problems and destroy everything, including himself, in a quest of petty vengeance. It's simple, but it's a story about internal and external destruction that is very fitting for a game about ripping the entrails out of a cyclops. It's a dark power fantasy but it's very honest about the consequences of your actions. There's no way you can see Kratos as redeemable by GoW III. But everyone in life has felt wronged by someone and wanted to do something about it at some point and that's exactly what Kratos lets you indulge. That's why his design screams raw power and aggression. But it also reminds you that revenge is futile and mutually destructive. The game gets you feeling aggressive and powerful. The story is a big "don't try this at home" disclaimer.
@@jasonfenton8250 I know that. ain't nothing wrong with a simple story...hell 2018 has a simple story but what it also has is complex characters. that's the formula to great storytelling because no one wants a convoluted plot and simple characters. yes I know lol. all i'm saying is the past games lacked complex characters and kratos is way more developed now than ever before.
Why are people pushing for games to be like movies? I get that making them look more cinematic is cool but don't try to change something into a medium that it is not. And why is there such a bug interest in story when games cared about character, its design and the gameplay? Story was there but it was driven by the character and not an "intricate" and "deep" narrative.
making games with interesting, functional and fun gameplay is hard. It's much easier to make them about walking and looking at some generic scenery. Also pretend to make it "deep" with some bland character interaction, instead of creating interesting worlds, characters and concepts that offer something new.
"Instead of creating interesting worlds, characters and concepts that offer something new". None of the older God of War games had any of that. So stop whining like a little kid.
Yobi Yopi Gameplay will always be more important than story, but it doesn't hurt to have one. Or, at least try to have one. Also the old gameplay is fun. I'll admit, but people have to give this one a chance.
the game already had me pissed off when I saw the nauseating Batman camera. I got pissed off again when I saw that the evade system looks clunky as shit. whats even worse was the shitty fucking kill on that ogre dude. where's the gore and head ripping?? all I saw was axe to the head that's it.
How to get a good game review: 1.) Be a 2d platformer that reminds you of your Sega Saturn 2.) Have the game basically be a movie so it does all the playing for you.
When you wanted a game to flop so badly because it's not like the old ones, and yet get shat on by every critic with critical acclaim. LOLOLOL "FUCK THIS GAME! The production value is too good! I want 2D sprites & retro shit! Fuck this Cinematic game bro! This isnt a real game Bro IT'S a MOOVIE bro!"
Game developers don't seem to realise that games NEED "game scripts". If you have a movie script your game will turn into a movie and hence it'll just be The Last of Us all over again.
I like to call them "Walking simulators" or "interactive movies", why not just watch Raiders of the lost arc instead of playing Uncharted? Far cheaper. But I know I'll get death threads from Playstation Fanboys for this...
Hreesto You say that like last of us was a bad thing, I think there's a place for those types of games, the reason why this is appalling is because it's a series pretending to be something else, not because what it is is inherently bad
I don't think that's true, but I think a perfect balance has yet to be achieved between player agency and large sweeping stories. I just think it's beyond silly to discount a game type because you dislike it. While I do think it's wrong to disingenuously change a franchise to be what it's not, people have great times with these "Walking sims". It's the same argument as sports games. I don't like sports games, but I'm not going to tell anyone that they should just play/watch the real sport because it's the same thing, that's just dumb.
A COMBO METER!?! IN AN ACTION FRANCHISE!?! You, sir, are a fool! If we included combo system we wouldn't have time to write our "not a game script" game script!
no old theme songs, no quick time events, no combo meter, no old title screen with the iconic kratos face i mean should i really go on (the interview said it all), even tho god of war has changed i will still love it because god of war 1 was the first game i ever played AND im going to stay loyal to the franchise even if it does change beyond recognition
Oh yeah, the ending was great and ascension was totaly unnecessary, but people just want more and more of the same, just like ubisoft did with assassins creed.
The difference with Creed is at least they are making different games in different settings and with AC Egypt they're drastically changing the mechanics without making it less gameplay-centered
Cinematic games are fun once in a while, but there's way too many of them now. I've found myself skipping almost all the cutscenes in some games, because I'm mostly interested in the gameplay. I have tons of movies already I should be watching.
@Justin Snowden Done that already! I'm a huge fan of the Yakuza series and has played every single game without skipping cutscenes. Maybe it's the absurd comedy mixed in between the over-the-top action that appeals to me.
Why is it only relatively lesser known gaming channels raising a brow at this stupid change? Is the gaming "press" really this blind and terrible? Oh, and great video.
This is sadly what Gaming Press wants to play. Especially considering they suck at video games. They want a game that's mostly a movie so they don't actually have to try. Also they are pretentious fucks who think story should take highest precedence in video games.
It's a trend atm. As many says "the gaming press are not gamers". It's a freaking miracle that we still have actual games. *Uncharted*, *The Last of Us*, Metal Gear Solid, *Heavy rain*, *Beyond Two Souls*, *Detroit: Become Human*, *Days Gone* and *God of War* are all SONY IP and for them "Movie Games" is the big thing. And it must be, because people sure as hell are buying them.
I'm glad there are others that have a distaste for the shift in direction for this series. I'm growing tired of game series changing to try and conform to whatever is popular in the game industry at the time.
This new generation of gaming is so SOFT, They complain why the previous games are violent and not mature and Kratos angry all the time, this is another reason why I hate casual game
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் nowadays games are like - boring realistic graphics movies walking talking with a some soft dramatic boring story with boring downgrade gameplay hyped by blind fanboys and casual gamers - Being extremely hard and unfair that is not enjoyable and fun anyway except for the pros but you have to put hours and efforts into it to the point it's annoying - Games that takes your wallet and you have to pay for anything and pay to win - some that lacks brutally and blood and adds censorship - Battle Royal multipler cliché - Toxic games and toxic gamers and trash community - Rushed disappointed unfinished bad quality games with overhyped trailers that made you think it's the best game of all time - Companies that milks games to the point of making games for every single year
To me, it was the close up camera that killed it for me. We don't need it up close to Basque in the awesome and beautiful detail. It will look gorgeous either way. And it was ESPECIALLY bad when in combat. Even the Arkham games knew how to distance the camera for the sake of fighting.
Yeah, they really did map the attack buttons on the right shoulder pads. For christs sake, there's nothing even resembling GoW anymore in this game, except for maybe part of the player model.
விஷ்ணு கார்த்திக் I'm a fan I care And I love the new formula The old one was getting stale by ascension, I mean look at how it flopped. The fans, even the studio were getting bored of it. So they made a new formula and it is honestly pretty good. I mean how can God of war compete with Bayonetta and Devil may cry. Those games trash it in sales
George Bush I haven't played it yet so I can't judge. From all the reviews that's up, it's anything but basic. You unlock more movesets and possibilities the more exp you earn etc. So yea
CroneRaven1810 don’t want to waste my money on it but compared to things that will come this year ( yakuza ) its very basic. I bet the reviewers liked it because it’s easy
I agree. This game is literally Last Of Us, they just replaced the characters with kratos and his son and replaced the zombies with monsters and called it a day. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT
@@eddi8634 It is a bad thing, 'cause The Last Of Us is a completely different thing, and God Of War was trying to be like it. It's like taking Final Fantasy and turning it into an FPS
I understand why you and many others are disappointed at the change for God of War, I am too. However, I realised that after looking at both the reception of God of War 3 and it's later instalments. The target audiance for the game had no more interest in the series, for a few reasons. God of War 3 killed off the most powerful figures in the series. This made the following games lose that looming threat that the bosses provoked; their shadows over the player was gone. There were no Gods, Titants nor Primordials to defeat. They were all dead. Not only that but, the new team wasn't up to what the original team could preform, the original team that made God of War was gone. They had worked on other projects in the gaming industry and the majority of them had left to pursue other projects. The new team, whilst headed by the same people who worked on the original series, knew that they could not emulate the original series. So they decided to go back to the drawing board. The reason they made changes to the gameplay, perspective, camera and the like. Is because they had already done everything they could in God of War 3. God of War 3 was the highest peak the series ever reached, after the third instalment it has never gotten as much attention as it once did. I hate some of the choices they've made but, with it being impossible for them to surpass what they have already done with the team they have. They have to experiment with this new team, otherwise they will make a mess of their later projects.
***** Its common for people who write stories, films or whatever; To fall in love with their own main character. When they do this they tend to give them complete plot armour, making it seem as though they can take on the world. Kratos is evidence of this. This game shouldn't have happened. Because they were too spinless to kill Kratos off then and there, due to their love of him, as well as the fans constantly asking for another God of War game. We get this.
ianmaluk1 That makes no sense kratos couldn't die at the end of the story because he was basically the new hades and he had hades weapon which is why no one else could control his soul. Plus why would he die there but not die any of the other times he died? I thought they should've made another game where he takes on gods from other mythologies, but keeping with the same combat system as the rest of the games. You don't need to have the original team to make a game feel like the rest of the series. Look at sly cooper 4 it's not even made by the original studio yet it feels like an actual sly game because they didn't fucking change the genre of the game and they had a plotline that felt like it fit the story. If they wanted to make a new game what they should've done was keep the gameplay the same and just explain how when he left he to walk the destoryed planet he found the lands of the other gods weren't changed by what he did since they all kept to their own territories. If they did that it would feel like a god of war game where he's found a bunch of new gods and kills all the new gods.
1. Kratos can die even if he was the new Hades, the same goes for the other Gods. They were born into the world, meaning they can die. They can live for a very long time but, if someone knows how to kill them they can and will kill them. 2. Kratos didn't want to die at any of the points he was killed, every time he died he had a reason to come back. There was no reason for him to come back after he killed himself, he gave hope to humanity, that's it he should have died. 3. The original team already planned the battles between other mythologies but as I already said, they fell in love with the character of Kratos. So they wanted to keep useing him in the same setting. 4. Yes, Sly Cooper was made by a different developer. However, they had the people from the original team both supervising and training them. That's why they were told to work on remastering The Sly Collection, that was their proof of concept for handling the sequel rights. 5. The new team in SIE Santa Monica Studio don't have anyone to train them how the original mechanics worked, nor how to accurately project them. They are new people from different backgrounds without mentors.
ianmaluk1 yes but kratos not only got powers from hades he also got powers from all of the other gods he killed. Plus he got powers from the titians he killed. He's also the only one to "die" as many times as he did yet cross over to the land of the living again. So it's not that far of a stretch to assume that the same rules don't apply to him since no one is their to keep him in the underworld and he already knows how to leave the underworld in more ways than one. My point about how sly still felt like sly is still valid there was definitely a way for them to make the game feel right. Plus in my opinion it's harder for sly than it is for god of war. Sly had more story and more main characters. When you make a new sly game even if all of the villians are different you still have 3 main characters to get right plus carmelita. Kratos is the only character that would've been the same if they did it right. Plus we will never know if they couldn't get it right with this new team since they didn't even attempt to get it right. They just made a new game because they wanted to be different but still have people who will for sure buy the game because of the name. Not just the people who will buy the game just because it's god of war but also the people who didn't see the trailer and see the game on the shelf and buy it without knowing it's not really god of war. In the end god of war is a hack and slash with boss fights that are like those old cinematic arcade games like dragon's lair. With a game like god of war as long as the combat was the same and you were still killing gods it would feel the same or at least pretty close to it. I guess we'll never truly know since they made the game like this instead of trying to make a game that felt like god of war
@@skibot9974 seeing as most games have up to 4 settings, normal being only 1 up from easy, i’d say no. is doom eternal too easy and poorly designed because someone chose to only play on “hurt me plenty” (normal) difficulty? or halo 1’s normal? no of course not. a games specific perfect blend of challenge and fun tends to be on the higher difficulties if well designed. normal and easy modes don’t detract from that design.
@@madookamagooka743 the way I see it easy mode is for those who are new at games or need extra accommodations. Standard should be how the game is primarily balanced NOT hard mode I should mention I’ve yet to play a GOW game (thigh they’re on my list) but I feel normal and easy should be what’s advertised.
I think that people are missing the point of this video. The rant isn't because GOW changed. The problem here is that the series isn't evolving. The new game should have expand of what GOW was, a hack n slash/beat m up. They should created more creative mechanics and add more depth into it. Instead the developers chose to play it safe and drop the hack n slash completly in favor of a walkie-talkie relantionship feels dark souls like rpg game. This game seems to have become everything that is popular among the casual consumers who dont really want to play a game. Thats what the rant is about.
Αντωνης Φωστιερης if the developers wanted to add "creative machanics" and "depth" to the old formula, then they would've done it in the last 5 games. But they didn't, because God of war was never supposed to be a complex hack and slash game like DMC. That's why it got so popular in the first place, because most of its fans were casual gamers who wanted a simple hack and slash game. So the developers made 6 games with the exact same combat system and it became stale. This new GoW is taking the franchise in a new direction much like how fallout 3 took fallout in a new direction, and all the praise that it is getting is rightfully deserved.
You highlighted the very thing that worries me the most about this game; the idea that every developer wanting to chase after TLOU's success will be following in this game's example, throwing out everything great about the original games not because they want to be different, not because they genuinely believe this is a good direction for the series, but to copycat the popular guy in the room, and if we let them get away with stuff like this, soon everyone will be jumping on that gravy train and we'll have GTA throwing out it's wacky open world explosion fest to be a streamlined dadbeard story.
Yeah, almost like a certain action series about greek mythology surfed on the trends of its time and never broke out of mediocrity in depth of mechanics or story and was popular especifically because of the spectacle of the experience, not the quality of gameplay.
@@gallzatron4046 thats subjective not fact i agree he should play it for himself and make a judgment. But i agree the game leaves a lot to be desired from a gameplay perspective and the continuity of the story and kratos's character doesn't mesh given that the events of the last game are included. Combat imho is a stiff, camera clunky mess, auto assist horrid, puzzles bland. Glad to have gow back just hopefully they focus more on gameplay next time rather than graphics and pandering.
@@gallzatron4046 It's not that it's a bad game but using the IP of "God of War" is the actual problem it could be a completely new IP yet they ruined the whole franchise because of this crap!
Personally if they announced God of War 4 with the same basic game play and traditional gaming mechanics i wouldn't care as much. I'm happy that games are changing things up and not being handcuffed to the old ways of doing things. New ideas, new techniques and options is always the best thing to possess. No video game series should keep the same mechanics and game play forever, they always bring changes. (whether they be small or large changes)
New ideas, new techniques and options is always the best thing to possess. The fuck are you talking about? They are simply ripping off Naughty Dogs ideas and techniques.
actually some things should stay. you just gotta make sure that those mechanics are meaningful. some games get worse despite no change because the developers forget some mechanics that are meaningful to the overall experience or because the game fails to challenge people in the way they expect
Dusan Ivic The Last of Us was not combat focused especially when it comes to melee weapons, this game shows actual melee mechanics when it comes to combat. The combat in Last of Us was really bad and encouraged you to sneak more than having more combat. So you see no changes in GOW4 compared to the previous trilogy? You must be blind.
Optimizing the game? Finishing the later parts of the game? Making sure it’s bug free as possible? Making sure the writing is well done? Playtest? Greenlight it? Ship it? You know...a few things lol
Not really. Combat is still fast paced and brutal. This guy was an idiot who made a video based on the very little bit of gameplay provided. Alpha gameplay at that. People are just salty as fuck that GoW changed. It needed a change very badly. OMG the attacks are on the shoulder buttons. Big deal...
I haven't played GOWs yet but I have always loved the Action Hack n' Slash genre. Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, Ninja Gaiden (reboot) and Shinobi (reboot) it's sad to see a Action Hack n' Slash series become a Last of Us Clone. Another AAA cinematic, story focused, mainstream, slow, forced walking segments and dull combat. The new GOW looks vanilla compared to the original trilogy. I fear the Hack n' Slash will go the way of the Arena Shooter...extinct.
One thing that bothers me is that people are making a big deal that he's a father. He was a father in every game, his backstory was that he was tricked into killing his daughter!
Wtf?! All these people in the recent comments trying to prove a subjective opinion wrong. Why? They’re acting like 10/10 scores changes our opinions and that we were lying to our selves.
They act as if we didn't know this game would get 10s. Anyone with a brain knows these type of games get mostly 10/10 by critics. He even stated it at 5:35 & 7:44
Zomagedon Well, an opinion that's built AFTER playing said game should not be criticized. But this video is 2 years old now, a lot of things has change. There's no shame in admitting some of the things he said were plain wrong and some were actually accurate predictions.
grace calis true, I agree with that. This video didn’t age well. But I’m pretty sure that his opinion still stands. In his e3 2017 video there was a point where he said the game is still scripted.
Zomagedon Again, these trailers were purposefully built to try and show off as little as possible. Cory, the director, said this himself. I'd like for him to play the game and give us his thoughts, because then at least wouldn't sound so much like speculation pretending to be reality.
Its just annoying that people like him making these opinions are the same people that bashed Resident Evil 4's new direction and then ended up sucking its dick.
The craziest thing out of all of this is how many people will hate on you for not liking the new God of War: I borrowed my cousin’s copy of the game around the time it came out. And it was honestly boring even the story wasn’t that strong compared to other games like last of us. Anytime I said anything negative about the game all my friends would just tell me I have bad taste lol.
Yup and you were totally right. 40% last of us cutscene shit with 0 gameplay, 40% running around throwing your axe at puzzle objects,20 % fighting against white walker boring enemy copies. And ofc it needs crafting bc every popular game has it. 1/10 a slap to the face of everyone who was invested in the franchise
Damn man, you got it SO right! I thought you were actually playing the game, then I checked the upload date. Wow, major props to you for prophetically spotting everything wrong with this game
Yea this game was such a disaster /s. 94% metacritic. Game of the year. One of the best selling ps games of all time. Universally praised and loved. This is some weird echo chamber in here acting like this game flopped, or was going to flop LMFAO
@@aweigh1010 Come now man, that's not on. You need to relax. I'll admit my comment was fanboyish and i got caught up in the heat of the momemt. But there is no need to get that personal.
I see it from both sides, it's a great game in it's own right but I have to compare it to the god of war games I loved and still play once in a while. I just feel the last game was better I loved kratos as a villain, I loved his rage, I love the more mature content and faster pacing and the story overall compared to this one. The first boss fight was the most epic and best part of the entire game, the rest just didn't compare to it, too few boss fights that were unique mostly just reskins and the combat just wasn't complex enough was just a bunch of button mashing you use the same strategy for everything.
xartyomxX he brings up the valid points though, it changed for no reason and ppl eat it up cause it's not dmc such so it's fine but that can start a bad trend like MT or loot boxes
gbdeck200 For no reason? A lot of people felt the combat got stale and I agree. This game wouldve gotten flak if it stayed the same as well. People would’ve called if lazy and boring if they kept the same exact mechanics and combat of every other God of War game. Its funny how everyone in this comment section jumps to conclusions before even playing the game. Because as it turns out, the new God of War is actually deeper and more complex in its combat system. People also seem to jump to the conclusion that a game with a story means it has no gameplay or its gameplay suffers, which is such a stupid assumption.
Thanks for making this, the new god of war is such a generic and mediocore game that's an insult to the original games' legacy. They should have just made a new IP, considering the new games are so divorced from what the original games were.
I think the drive to make game stories less like game stories and more like movie stories was always stupid. Not every game has to be Bioshock but even stuff like Deus Ex is a great example, it’s just a really good game with a really good story told very well through a game
That moment when you're playing God of War and you wish the camera was zoomed in, you couldn't jump and Kratos had a son who would accompany him through the story, which by the way should be more sentimental and deeper
"why did god of war go from a more shallow and cinematic yet still enjoyable video game about slashing shit up to a semi-interactive lame ass art film?" "because it's 2016"
^^ No i'm not fucking retarded, that's why i care about the GAMEPLAY first&foremost. If i wanted a good story i'd watch a fucking movie or read a book.
Ascension was a tad stale in my opinion. The changes are good and the gameplay has been revamped to allow for more options. Kratos is also showing some character development which is what he needs tomove forward. The kid is a boy by the way not a girl.
That's exactly what happened with MGS V. They had about 48 hours to sleep, eat, socialize and review the game at the Konami Review Event. They'd have gotten maybe 24 hours of gameplay TOPS. And not one review points out the glaring flaws and gaping holes in the design of the story and the gameplay. There's something seriously wrong with the gaming industry in todays world.
its not a god of war game. its a game, that slapped the god of war name onto it, in order to get sales. it looks slow and clunky, and although they say, its gameplay will be different, it will probably be just pressing square to hit repeatedly. The latest generation of console games, have been rather shit. Being only on Pc these days, doesn't feel like i'm missing much in terms of gaming, considering the poor showing for many games.
Honestly, you're not really missing much. There are only a few exclusives on the PS4 worth experiencing because of how fun they were to play. But it's a shame to say only a few.
Until Dawn is damn good, tought I guess as a game, it is very bad. Also the framerate was really bad at times, couldn't even keep cinematic 30 most of times. UC4 is really good too I heard, I just burned out with it with the 3rd one. I finished it becouse I was already so far into it, for some reason I have no interest to play the 4th one. 2nd one was bloody amazing tought. Is there any others? There has to be, right?
I call it the Tomb Raider 2013 syndrome. They look better and have a more cinematic feel but in the process they lost the essence of what made those franchises great in the first place.
***** To say that video games can't be an excellent medium for story telling is insane. Hell, I prefer storytelling in video games to any other media. To say that a game can't marry gameplay and story together and excel at both is also insane. Someone hasn't played the Halo games.
***** I would say it depends on the game. A game such as Life is Strange is built around being story driven, and for many franchises the story is extremely important to many fans. In the case of the God of War (judging from the video alone), I agree that the new direction of being more a emotional roller coaster walking simulator is a bad idea.
Yeah, you can tell very unique stories through video games, what bothers me to no end is the need to dumb down gameplay instead of improving the interactive aspects of the game just to make it more "cinematic" or whatever.
Denzel Romero hopefully by that time this 3rd person "feels open world adventure" type of gameplay is dead. Until then, DMC5 is the only Hope for hack'n'slash genre.
I've just plain given up on games like the last of us, horizon zero dawn and this new God of war they are not games with cool mechanics or simple fun they're stories prenteding to be games with crappy scripted sequences to fake tension and generic characters along with a young child character to lazily build emotion
James McGuinness What's your problem with Horizon? It's got some of the most engaging combat in recent years with tons of ways to approach it. The Last of Us's combat might not be very innovative or deep, but I still had a blast playing it on Grounded. And it has one of the most enjoyable multiplayer modes I've ever played. The amount of ways you can approach the multiplayer is insane too. You can build stealth builds that are very viable and feel completely different from others. And going one against a whole team and beating them has never felt so great. Just look at this. th-cam.com/video/mwioQQ_ixdo/w-d-xo.html And you haven't played this game. You don't even know if the combat will be engaging or not. Is it really necessary to have a fixed camera and normal hack and slash gameplay? Can things not evolve and still retain a lot of the same aspects? There's still combos, light and heavy attacks, etc. There's no jumping but you do gain a ton of spatial awareness due to the camera and new ways to approach combat due to this. Using ranged weapons can now actually be fun rather than just something to spam. Throw your axe at this enemy to freeze them and continue your combo with other weapons and then line up other enemies to be hit with the axe when you call it back and then continuing your combo. I can already see myself having fun with that. And sorry, I wanna care about the characters I play, atleast if the game is attempting to have a story with complex characters. You might not remember this, but Kratos was a bit more complex in the first game and the games that followed were almost nothing but rage. And care to actually explain what was wrong with The Last of Us's characters? Rather than just a generic comment about "crappy scripted sequences and fake tension" how about actually explaining that position because literally anybody can say that about anything. It doesn't matter unless you can back it up otherwise it's an opinion without any thought behind it.
THe continuing demise of action games into cinematic interactive stories. I'm so glad other people feelthe same way. This is something going on with PS4 exclusives
Even though I disagree, I must say that this was a well-made video with solid points I find myself nodding my head at. But if I'm being honest, the reason I'm actually interested in this new direction GoW is taking is the same reason you're not- it's becoming more like TLoU/Uncharted. I really liked TLoU, I really like slow "walky-feely" games, and I've never been interested in character action unless they had an interesting story or were associated with games I did like (see: MGR Revengeance). I get you're point and I don't think you're wrong or anything; this is a wildly different direction that could go wrong and it means one less of a kind of game you like, that sucks. But personally I'm interested in GoW for the first time ever. I guess my point is that there isn't one way to judge a video game, they can be made with different design goals in mind and still be equally worthwhile, and having more of one kind of game than another isn't necessarily bad for gaming as a whole.
+Andy Oz I would try and keep an open mind and judge the game on its own merits, albeit remaining skeptical over such a drastic change in direction. Which is what I'm doing for GoW and RE7. Change isn't always bad after all. Also some people would say that Nathan Drake is already sociopath that kills everyone :P
+Christian Hansen Would you like if NaughtDog announces that Uncharted 5 and The Last Of Us 2 will be hack and slash games? And how can you not like for example Devil May Cry 3? Or Bayonetta 2?
I would probably do the same thing I did with Revengeance and give it a shot because I like the universe. At that point if the game is good then there won't be a problem. If it sucks, it would fail on its own merits and not because it didn't stick to its roots. I see a lot of complaints about games that are bad because they deviate from their genre (RE6, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, etc.), but from my perspective all that criticism about straying away from the series roots comes after the fact: a game is only bad for "straying from its roots" if it was a bad game in and of itself, because there exist games that do depart from the series core mechanics while still being good games. Granted, games that do make radical departures from the original design are taking much bigger risks, due to unfamiliarity within the design team and alienation from established fans. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched. As for the second part of your question, I don't inherently dislike DMC3 or Bayo 2 or any of the other character action classics, in fact a big reason I'm subscribed to TheGamingBritShow is because I like to hear what he has to say about character action. It's just that I've always been drawn more to story-centric "slower" genres, with cutscenes and downtime; games like XCOM: Enemy Unknown, Fallout: New Vegas, Fire Emblem, Life is Strange, MGS2, and of course TLoU just to give you a broad strokes image. That's not to say I don't like action games at all, just that typically games with frenetic gameplay or high dexterity challenge (like platformers, fighting games, arcade-style games, etc.) stress me out too much to enjoy. I will say my tastes are changing: right now I'm wrapping up Dark Souls 1 after completing Bloodborne, and the Souls series are games that I would normally NEVER consider playing because I always thought they were too difficult and stress-inducing. I'll probably give DMC a try sooner or later.
Yes but the thing is,there are many good games like The Last Of Us Already,and many more good games of the action genre are coming,each 10 "The Last Of Us Games" , they make 1 "Metal Gear Rising Game, Devil May cry or Bayonetta Game" How many good hack and slash games are been made right now? Just Nier Automata and maybe Nioh, and now hack and slash games genre lost the most important (not the best) hack and slash game ever made that is God Of War.
I think it's funny that people watched 2018 GOW footage then decided to complain about a critique made in 2016. Gamingbrit is a classic hack and slash fan. He's allowed to critique a change in direction for the series.
Maybe its because people cant think on their own and jump bandwagons because its trendy and gives them upvotes. This us just opinion leading at its best.
I love how the premise of the video is "yep, this is where games are now, we're literally making the vidya equivalent of oscar bait now and the journos and normies are gonna lap it up because it has decent writing and pretty visuals." and then the snoy brigade comes in and goes "haha this aged so poorly, lol, normies and journos lapped this game up and its infinitely worse, even more oscar-bait-like sequel even more so lol"
I agree with you in all. I felt lonely in this but now I understand there are much people who loved God of War and don't like the new turn of this game. :)
its insane how people say that " the old god of war gameplay doesnt work on this period of time" . i started playing god of war 3 on ps3 and its still a fun game to play even after 7 years after its release. this situation of god of war 4 just shows how the casuals ruin gaming . they buy everything that looks like an interactive story instead of an actuall good games.i hate that my favorite gaming franchises will be ruined because everything needs to be suited for the casuals. another example of this bs can be seen in fallout 4 that changed the series from a post nuclar rpg to a post nuclar far cry clone. im sick of that my favorite games are dumbed down just because the casuals are dumb idiots who cant learn how to use a combat system or figure out things for themselfs. atleast we got nier automata that is a amazing heck and slash arpg game that isnt for casuals at all.
ofek gauero That have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with casual... The old god of war style was out of date they had to change the formula and they did it for the best of it. If you dont like this game youre not a real gamer.
Basically GoW 4's combat added more complexity by giving players choice to their playstyle Both Kratos and Atreus have a skill tree Armor upgrades grants you stats and status effects Kratos and Atreus can equip runes (which are all upgradable) onto your weapons and armor that offer different moves (there's so many damn moves in this game) Combat is more precise and mashing gets you killed fairly quickly Enemies have a stun meter which increase the more you use melee based attacks Elemental damage plays a huge factor to different enemies so you can create builds for certain encounters
Andy Oz pretty sure you didn’t play the game. Tunes give you different abilities to use in gameplay. If you hate any kind of depth in a game, then just don’t play games in general
Cyber Ocelot that shit isn't fucking depth,DMC has depth and it doesn't have all that RPG bullshit to stretch out it's Action Choosing up equipment isn't part of ripping off an enemy's head,see the matter here?
Funny how I absolutely adore a game like Monster Hunter, where I'll spend hours happily grinding enough materials to min/max my character for a specific encounter with weapons/armour, stat advantages, item vulnerabilities all alongside a stamina meter and slow deliberate weapon attacks...Yet God of War 4 does nothing but come across as a stale try hard piece of shit slapping all the typical RPG mechanics in for the sake of "all duh best games have dis!". Monster Hunter is a game built around this stuff, God of War 4 just slaps it in because it's basically expected to be there regardless of whether it belongs. Original God of War (alongside games like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Revengence, Bayonetta) had depth without all the RPG bullshit. A couple weapons and a massive list of attacks. You can smash your face against the controller on normal mode and get to the end easily enough, but only by really jumping into and learning those games systems will get you through the harder difficulties these sort of games were intended to be played on in the first place.
I think it depends on what the game is going for. If you're God of War and you're striving for some amazing narrative, you're doing yourself a disservice because your forte should be fun and exhilarating combat, and you're straying from that and your roots as a hack-and-slash game. However, I can appreicate something like a Silent Hill or certain RPGs where most of the gameplay is structured in a way that lends itself to a good story and characters.
Devil may cry V proves that “what worked then doesn’t work now” is bullsheeeet
Thank fucking god we didn't get a devil may soy.
DMC5 proves that "what worked then works even better now and if it doesnt it's on the devs for not making it work stop blaming on the times"
srsly fuck the modern trend of video games. When i play video games, i want to play the game itself.
@@cloud-lbc Damn golden comment, absolutely nailed it. Pretentious game journo's that can't be half decent at a game if they tried, love it cause its "sooo cinematic". Rather having to work at learning a game.
@@RobCastov srsly everytimes a gaming journalist opens their mouth, i just wanna tape it back in. Your incompetence combined with whining is just disgraceful, and harms the gaming industry so much
@Win From Within keep seething sony baby
It's funny that you think God of War 4 will let you jump.
It'll crash the game if that happens. It will feel like Mirror's Edge.
They probably will let you jump...
...at specific locations where the button prompt is indicated.
Can't trust a player's cheeto-encrusted hands to be able to perform a Cinematic™ jump.
Dad of War is to mature for that
Jumping is hardly cinematic
Why are companies so obsessed with taking a franchise and changing it to fit modern trends, Tomb Raider was pretty guilty of this but this...
The reboot was ok but the last one is just really bad (I won't talk about the absence of an ending).
tomb raider made sense..this though i'm not so sure
Yeah man why take a thing that's going to be sold for money and change it to be more like recent things that have made a lot of money? Hmmm....
DEEVIOUS1S
and you should be happy about that right
It was like the theme of E3 this year with Prey, Quake, Zelda, Resident Evil. Fuck having your own identity lets just be off brand X and hope it makes just as much money like all those successful WOW and COD clones right?
>what worked on the ps2 won't work in 2016
>dmc 5 comes out
Guess it works in 2019 tho
It only sold 5 million copies. That's pretty small considering a brand new ip named ghost of tsushima already outsold it and it's been out for 2 years lol
@@introduction1266so you are saying that ghost of tsushima is better than DMC 5. Are you serious. DMC 5 is the epitomy of action game genre with nearly unlimited replayability. But will you play ghost of tsushima and praise the long walking sections again and again for wasting your time . You cannot be creative in ghost of tsushima with your moves the way you can in DMC 5. These are games not movies. Wake up brother.
@@debashisprasadjena5075 that's exactly what I think. Forgot what I said but that sounds about right. Bro obviously if it was the "epitomy" it would had sold more than 5 million copies. Ghost is like at 10 million and an exclusive. There are no long walking sections in ghost and if there were short ones with characters interacting and Iooking at the beautiful world I wouldn't mind at all. Hell I slow down all the time by myself and just walk through this beautiful island. No problem at all...that's the problem with you guys. Always want action all the time and never stop to just relax and live in the moment. No wonder why yall never immersed. The only limit to creativity in ghost is you...it has a pleura of moves and stuff to use. You're right it's not a movie...it's an interactive experience. Lol I find it hilarious how you got the nerve to tell me to wake up 🤣. Take your own advice
@@introduction1266 not much people push themself enough play an engaging game nowdays but that doesn't mean that the other games like ghost of tsushima are better, they just appeal more to the casual audience. Look at the last of us 2 it won the game of the year award but can you call it a good game.
@@introduction1266 Yeah but your argument is that since ghost sold more copies it's automatically better? Seriously come on you can do better than that. And DMC 5's combat is much better. Just play it yourself or at least watch a walkthrough of it.
It feels like more and more games are being made by people who flunked out of film school.
Which doesn't make sense since Kojima and so many other great devs actually did try film school first. These people seem to barely know how storytelling even works much less how to handle a decent combat system.
get the fuck out of of here. You havent seen a undecent combat system if you have the balls to say that. What a fucking joke you are.
***** What? Am I supposed to be impressed that the animations work and it doesn't just not play like in the old days of NES games? I didn't know I was a joke for having standards.
This is the same guy who directed god of war 2 though.
Thanatos388 You aren't supposed to be nothing. You can feel what ever you want, but when you say that that combat looked undecent, when i have played games much much worse... i got a problem with that then.
Where does this fucking sentiment of "videogames have finally grown up" stem from? The Last Of Us? Fuck, Silent Hill 2 was more complex, deep and 'grown up' than any of these scripted walking-and-talking 'action' games. And Silent Hill 2 came out 15 years ago. Hell, why not go back further to Planescape: Torment, that's 17 years ago. Or when we're talking waking-and-talking, how about classic adventures? One of my favorites, Beneath A Steel Sky, great story, 22 years old. That's older than the average Last of Us player.
Video Games have not grown up. They're sacrificing what made the medium unique to seem that way, when we had games with good stories and characters since the early 90s.
people who think that video games have finally "grown up" and that older games are "Neanderthalic" need to get over themselves and accept the basic fact that *new doesn't equate to quality*, and that they are being childish themselves for thinking that older games are "less mature". For instance where as I couldn't care less for the plot of FFXIII, Final Fantasy IX is one of much more compelling to me. While it has a more cartoony art-style, the game's plot and themes of *life vs death* are so well executed and more mature than anything in those "realistic" games. The characters in FFIX deal with emotions, identity, and whether or not their lives mean anything. In fact the final boss fight, while a lot of people criticize it for being out of nowhere, is basically serving as an argument over *whether or not life means anything*. It utilizes its themes in such a creative way while also letting the game be a game. And people who think that a something with a cartoony art-style can't be taken seriously need to watch the anime series *KAIBA* to see how tell really tell a mature story.
From journalists, I guess? They love to proliferate effuse praise about games like this. As if old games didn't have great, memorable stories (often without sacrificing gameplay or pushing the technology or whatever). Guess they have to justify their bloated scores and advertisements. It's pretentious. They seem to hold that because gaming is this big industry, and millions go into these AAA titles, and OH THE GRAPHIX, and artistic debate... maybe because this is all we're getting, they think they need to justify what is happening, justify their time and money commitment too. Or they get blinded by a lack of options, so they forget that games used to do more with less.
UGOTNUKED+ Sir, you are RIGHT!
Modern Mature videogames =Boring,automatic,pretentius and generic videogames.
Expanded consumer baser.
I actually used to be one of those "Videogames have finally grown up" people and praised Halo: Reach for making the FPS genre "complex" and "story-driven", and thought everyone who hated the game had poor taste. All the way up until a couple of years ago when a friend recommended I play Deus Ex (2000), his favorite game of all time.
Holy fuck what an eye opener, I never knew game mechanics could be intertwined so flawlessly with the story. My gameplay decisions had actual impact without the dumb "do you choose good or evil?" cutscene prompts. The amount of actual, currently relevant philosophy in the story was also staggering.
I'm currently going through the Baldur's Gate games and loving it, planning on doing Planescape and fallout next. There's a whole world of games I just missed out on for years because I thought they'd be outdated.
Oh my god, somebody actually made a video about this
I swear, between being weirded out by this and RE7 I thought I'd just become so out of touch with what GoW even was anymore lol
The anime commentator Digibro did a semi-drunken rant along the same lines, but I think this is the first professionally done video about it.
Yeah but then he made a video about how Zelda totally isn't doing the exact same thing because each one is different or some shit. The new Zelda looks boring as shit for all the same reasons MGSV did. According to most this is "progress" finally Zelda is like every other game I play instead of having its own personality!
Yeah, I don't even know how to feel about RE7 yet. the demo is just a tiny part of the experience, but I hope the whole game isn't just walking around a really dark environment in first person looking for story bits and scripted scares with minimal combat. Hopefully the RE2 remake can scratch that classic Resident Evil itch.
Thanatos388
I guess we can at least expect Zelda to be finished!
Genericdude
My biggest fear (lol) came from all this supernatural haunted-house type shit in the demo. Like, I get it. Amnesia and P.T. had supernatural elements in them, but RE has pretty much been about sci-fi/body horror.
I feel like people who say 'well RE4 was so different' kinda miss the point I'm trying to make. It's not the gameplay that I expect to really not gel well (even though I am sick and tired of first person horror at this point), its that I think calling this RE is very much a cash-in. GoW feels like this to me as well. Use a popular series to prop up your new IP, rather than taking the risk on its own universe for folks to get into.
'Who cares if it's nothing like the tone or themes or even the gameplay of the previous installments! Sheeple will buy it anyway!'
- A scummy CEO
HeWhoEnjoysTehVids That and RE4 was doing something new to the genre of third person shooter games and set a trend and still being true to the tank control roots. Now RE is following a trend because they are scared of risks.
In the sequel Kratos will be a retail associate at WalMart overcoming the perilous journey of stocking shelves. He will become the God of Store.
This comment is underrated
GoS
Who'll be the final boss on his adventure? Karen?
Atreus will be a teenager and last boss fight will be his mid life crisis .
you belong back in 2005 and if you somehow get there dont fucking comeback
When I first saw the new God of War footage I thought it was Horizon Zero Dawn having Kratos as a guest character
Me too.
Horizon Zero Dawn feat. Kratos From God of Cucks: My Wife's Son edition.
Legit I thought it was like the Last of Us reskin or something. I saw another video without information so yea...
Don't bash Horizon like that. It doesn't play anything like this.
What are videogames anymore? Like, what's with these devs obsession to make their games "epic" , "cinematic" and "meaningful". What about "fun"? Isn't that a priority when making a game? Or am I growing too old for videogames?
They've grown lazy, "epic, cinematic and meaningful" are their excuses to give you the most production values and in-game cutscenes and acting, with minimal gameplay
Something about the medium needing to "mature." No time for fun.
th-cam.com/video/lit0xPh_v5c/w-d-xo.html
It's kind of an old video, but he makes good points about how "fun" actually means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.
We're a Dying breed my friend...
Hahahahahah, you question those things when you people always say that you want REALISM IN VIDEO GAMES? Pathetic
But if they don't walk how do I tell if it's art?
I know thinking for myself is hard.
I would tell you to look at an IGN or Polygon review, but they clearly are having this same internal struggle.
+nintendoluigi Already have, it's my favourite game.
That's pure fucking platinum comment
*implies god of war doesn't have excessive amounts of walking in it*
This is what happens when games "Grow up": they get boring, slow, emotionally unstable, and nonsensical.
They become better then the edgy old ones?
I totally agree about this whole "gow is mature!!!!" even though the old games were also mature, it might seem like kratos is just a justice angry bastard sparta, but oh boy his back story itself just makes the new gow stories even better
It's been 'updated for a modern audience' like the majority have and people will just lap that shit up regardless if the game has any actual engaging gameplay whatsoever.
Because Kratos was so emotionally stable before.
"It's not a game script, it's a script." There it is. The entire attitude of the devs: "we make art, not gamey stuff"
Christopher Judge is not part of the development team he's an actor lmao
The person who said it is someone who has never acted in a video game and doesn't play video games. So obviously it's gonna surprise him
yah, look at Deus Ex and Dishonored, great art and good gameplay.
It really hurts how true this bullshit approach came to life.
The whole "being more than a game" or "an emotional game" is the reason gaming is dying.
Companies think activity avoid making their video games "gamy" and more story-focused.
Even Nier-Automata did that bullshit
@@OZcomingFRoo Not as much as though games though. Don't exaggerate it.
Just another game that can be experienced by simply watching a walkthrough
thx sony
while I don't mind the fact that he's finally moved on I can definitely see the game play being a huge problem. God of War was already kind of boring to begin with but at least it had some substance in its gameplay. This! This is making it "Uncharted" boring. with mechanics that are so dumb down that a toddler can also play it
What is with Sony and having games that people call movies?
Mr.SilentProtagonist they put too much focus on being cinematic rather than being fun *games*. There's stories get better about their game play keeps getting worse and worse.
The only time I can say that they try to improve upon the game play while making it feel cinematically natural is when they get their Japanese Studio to make a game. Everywhere else it just try to take a page from Hollywood
Samir Malik
I think that it is Sony being too observant of reviewers and making "reviewer friendly games". tLoU and Uncharted 4 look like every other third person shooter out there but people act like it is the second coming of Christ.
Apparently even Until Dawn sold well, and that was nothing but a CG horror movie barely disguised as a game. It would be such a hassle to "play" that compared to how convenient it is watching it online (free and on any device) that they would really have to pay me to do it.
I can't wait for Capcom to revive the Megaman series with a new reboot where Megaman is a robocop-like amputee with a drinking problem. It'll have a behind-the-shoulder camera that is fixed, and minimal gameplay in exchange for more scripted events and dialogue.
Instead of gaining the powers of bosses he defeats, Megaman gains crafting components so you can craft your own weapons, which are basically all the same but with a different color. You'll have to protect his little sister, Roll, during the entire game, as he teaches her how to be a Megaperson like a parental figure, since their real parents died in some tragic backstory involving the villain of the game being pissy at the fact that they had a half-machine son.
Now Megaman and his sister are on a quest not only to avenger their parents, but also to stop the evil Dr. Wily who somehow turned most of the world into a cinematic wasteland, and has an evil army oppressing the innocent Megacivilians, and there's a cool rebel army, with a leader who is a member of a minority because of reasons. The second-in-command is known simply as "Zero" and is a badass, silent dude who likes to stand in ledges and brood over places, and has cryptic dialogue that is supposedly deep or something, fuck, I dunno. Also you can buy a Day One DLC to play as him. Its just a re-skin, though, not a new story or anything like that.
The game will deal with totally original issues like trans-humanism due to Megaman being part robot and there's evil purists and shit.
The final battle against the dude who killed Mega's parents will happen at night, in a storm, with a HUGE full moon and be REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY slow paced because of cinematic reasons.
Then if you beat the game without ever taking any damage, and only killing enemies with the starting melee weapons, a small window will be open during an escape-sequence in which you must run, so its REALLY hard to see. But if you do it, you'll notice there is a red hat with a letter "M" on it as an Easter Egg. Nintendo will then sue Capcom for copyright reasons and the world will blow up or sumthin i dunno
You forgot the part where we would see Dr.White brutally murdered at the beginning too give us our first "feels" moment.
And then Rush would die halfway through because killing a pet in a game is sure to pull everyone's strings and get you that 9 out o 10 score.
Also throughout the entire game, you will be reminded/offered that one can simply bypass the boss characters and get the equipment one would earn from fighting them through...microtrasnactions. Just buy all the crap and forget the game :) Only 5 bucks for one crate.
And the whole game will run at 24 FPS because it's really "filmic" that way.
I'll keep the link of this video just for these awesome comments.
This is Gold. Probably one the best comment on youtube.
Damn this is good. Tweet this idea to them
The game shoulda been called " Kratos's Back" due to the camera placement.
God of Bore, The Last of War, The god..of us...? The fun never ends.
I'm still waiting on Unkarted and the Fast of Us.
TheGamingBritShow Don't fucking give them ideas, Crash Kart was dope though, don't tarnish my childhood.
Dad of War is still the best one I've heard.
The last of olympUs
God of War of Us. But holy shit Dad of War is hilarious
I can see it now...
Devil may cry 5 to take inspiration from the critically acclaimed batman arkham franchise "A true evolution of the stylish character action genre" devs say.
Devil may cry 5 to take ques from the last of us and feature a more "dramatic heart felt story" says producer.
Devil May Cry will take cues the critically acclaimed Metal Gear Solid 5 where the first part will be sold separately, will have a barren open world, and the final act doesn't exist says voice actor of Kratos
Reading that put me in sever physical pain.
Thomas Rozhon I'm so sorry
An absolutely cuhrazy love story.
Or it takes notes from Souls games and implements a stamina bar and first person aiming
-Ascension came out. It didn't perform well commercially or critically.
-Last of Us is a third person game
-Last of Us was overly cinematic that told a story involving the bond between a child and a father figure. The game came out a few months after Ascension and was hugely successful
-Last of Us had a hunting segment in the woods during winter.
-GoW is third person all of a sudden.
-GoW is overly cinematic all of a sudden.
-The new GoW demo takes place in the woods during winter where Kratos (father figure) and his son (child) go on a hunting trip.
Just thought I'd point that out.
Sooooo every third person game is now TLOU all of a sudden? gotcha
It hurts that companies will take things like this to mean "people don't want X game anymore"
Instead of "the game we made was bad, that's why it didn't do well"
How could you even think he implied that?
+Rob Nickerson Ooooh. I can imagine how the next Devil May Cry will be. X-D
I get your point but gow was always 3rd person, so I think you meant its over the shoulder style of 3rd person view
I like the recent comments that are telling Brit how wrong he was and that the game got perfect scores, even though he predicted the game will get perfect scores regardless in the video...
Guess some people didn't have the patience to watch it fully and decided to be all defensive without even listening to him first.
Marius Urucu i know right? Some people are just so dumb
because the sonycucks fantards must praise every shit sony throws at them , even if i film myself raping their wives with my BBC and sell it as a game , if the game has the sony word over there they WILL buy it and love it , like the cucks that they are
Yup, it's official. This game is like The Last of Us all over again.
Jonathan Lando I'm not saying you have to agree with Brit 100%. That said, I've seen let's plays a of this new GOW. Nothing about it impresses me.
FYI, I'm the kind of guy who is into hack n' slash games of the crazy variety. Devil May Cry, Bayonetta (or most of Platinum's games for that matter), Ninja Gaiden, even games like Darksiders or Castlevania Lords of Shadows (despite not being full hack n' slash games). You know, the kind of genre the old GOW fit in.
I never liked the sluggish Dark Souls-like combat. Heck, Dark Souls isn't even a hack n' slash and anyone who thinks that don't know what they're talking about. But at least the combat in Dark Souls was deliberately sluggish to set in the feeling of hopelessness, since everybody is on an even playing filed. Most of Dark Souls depth lies in stat and build management anyway, not moment to moment gameplay.
This new GOW is trying to ape that Dark Souls methodical/sluggish combat while also trying to be God of War, but also wanting to have that Last of Us feel... which for me personally doesn't work. Nioh did this more methodical combat way better. And God Hand, another 3rd person brawler (a game from the PS2 era IGN gave a 3/10... for some reason), just puts whatever combat this new GOW has to shame.
Marius Urucu oh how wrong you are
Guys, are you forgetting that this is a movie?
I know right? What even is a video game?
It's not a game script, it's a script
TheSmashbros45 last of us ruined games
Z The Best In The Universe lol what???
What's with Sony exclusives being or becoming interactive movies?
The PS3 didn't have games, you really expect the PS4 to have any?
TBH the original GoW was slammed for this exact reason. Sony has always been aiming for a more "cinematic" and "adult" experience. It's a direction they've been going in since Playstation started.
Well, actually if you're in the camp that believes games like this are interactive stories then people are more than happy to buy them without a famous name slapped on it, example include but are not limited to The Last of Us and The Order 1886.
they are the reason why I have spite against games that try to become stories and stories only. I absolutely hate Uncharted as a game.
Well, Bloodborne and Odin Sphere are good games, at least.
Telltale Games Presents: God of War: Just Talking and Pressing X Every 35 Minutes
hey atleast Telltale *Games* have Good Writing which is why their games are so beloved atleast their recent titles. but i honestly hope that the Gamer market doesen`t get too filled with interactive Movies.
*Zeus will remember that*
+Sarcasmos nice one lol
35 minutes seem optimistic.
Sure, teleporting Zombies in the TWD every time they wanted Dramatic scenes. If you digest the story as you do here, you will find mold holes everywhere.
Typical game reviewers talk more about the story then they do the gameplay.
Would you rather they talk about gameplay first and then the story?
@@WinterWineMusic yes cuz it's game
Is the gameplay actually good tho? I wanna buy this game sometime but i am seriously afraid i will waste my money on another interactive movie after i completed The Last Of Us and got bored for the most part because of the mediocre gameplay...
@@NotTakenPls This game is actually really good just the fighting alone is amazing
@@cristobalmiranda91 alright, thanks
Developers have to decide if they're going to make a game or a netflix series.
John Sourlas but they can't put micro transactions if they do that.
Lmao
You can if try hard enough.
Cinematic doesn’t mean a movie game
I mean come on by now I have played lot of these games like uncharted last of us
None of them felt like I was watching a movie
Or rather I was part of there adventure
Same goes for god of war
Caleb Imrie dude you are not very smart huh? It has a father-son story so it's obviously The Last of us. It's in norse mythology so it's obviously skyrim. It has rpg customization so it's obviously Shadow of War. That shit is so ridiculous.
What did that "it's a script, it's not a game script" part come from? That pisses me off, I hate it when people, especially actual developers say shit like this. As if games are inherently inferior to movies, fuck off with that. Games can and have had great stories that are on par if not better than movies, and they also have the benefit of lasting more than 2 hours and actually being fun to play.
It's like they are humiliated to be making games at all. Have you seen the interviews by people who made the Order? "We are a game company, we make games. It's really hard trying to work around that."
It's like living in a bizzaro world.
Yea I know, that was incredibly stupid. When did games being games become a bad thing?
Yeah you're right (sarcasm) except have you played the game? No? Then shut the fuck up. You can't judge a game based on the fact theres a demo and a developer said a stupid thing.
You haven't played it either so what makes you think it will be good? As someone whose been playing games all my life I think I can tell whether a game is good or bad by looking at it. But I wasn't even talking about the quality of the game, I was talking about how developers act like movies are superior to games. And if developers are prioritizing story over gameplay, there's a good chance the game will be shit, much like the order 1886.
***** I never said I thought it was gonna be good. I sort of agree with you're later points but what I'm saying is you can't have a full opinion on the game yet because it hasn't been released and something developers say.
Yeah it sure would be awful if ninja gaiden got dumbed down. Ha...haha...*sob*
or Devil May Cry. Gee I hope they never do that.
Boy I hope resident evil never goes in the direction of outlast
You're speaking too soon. It could fucking happen!
something something Tomb Raider.
***** "Yeah here at Bethesda we are very excited for the remastered Skyrim but we could never do that for Morrowind because like.....have you seen how many dialogue choices you have in that game for ever npc? You can't give that to modern gamers lol!"
It's like Sony never actually liked videogames per se and as soon as they could, they turned them into interactive cinema.
Makes sense why they bought Quantic Dream and funded Heavy Rain
To be fair the combat in the GOW remake is pretty in depth, at lest the boss fights are.
@@ericpeterson9110 when did this gow remake come out ?
@@naxergss2625 Misspoke, I meant re-boot. Though I definitely wouldnt mind if SM wanted to do a full remake of the original trilogy.
@@ericpeterson9110 i would
God of War: The Movie Game of the Year Edition
Goddammit i bet you can't even jump
There's no need to jump except when there's specific QTEs. You know, like in a movie.
Oh you can jump...only at scripted sequences and vaulting over shit like knocked down trees.
Who litterally gives a single shit whether you can jump or not? Oh yeah, this game will be terrible if I can’t randomly look like fucking mario for no reason.
JOANY because that is what gameplay is built on, Nintendo has discovered that shit with the nes, not mention this is a 3d game which makes jumping MORE important
One thing I noticed in interviews is the developers keep referring to Kratos indepedently of the player. They keep saying "he" or "him" and never say "the player". I think that's a really bad sign of things to come. Kratos isn't an autonomous being, he shouldn't be doing anything in-game that the player isn't responsible for.
*Heres why this happened:*
Sony: "hmmm, people really liked our cinematic, story heavy games like Last of Us and Uncharted so lets do that to God of war too because who needs gameplay when we got story?!?!?!"
''We need a new idea for a game. What sells?''
''Skyrim sold well... Last of Us sold well... God of War sold well......''
Ashley Johansson lol but those games have great gameplay aswell. Just because a games has great story doesnt mean it doesnt have great gameplay...
"Kratos is deep now."
First game in the series opens with Kratos, a broken man, attempting to jump off a cliff. Calliope has a few moments in Chains of Olympus that Atreus wishes he could come close to. And she's freaking dead! Does anyone remember Pandora? You know the child who DIDN'T ask to be fed her own teeth every time she opened her mouth. The child that didn't speak like she was about to pull out a skateboard and sunglasses... in mythological times. The child who didn't require leveling up and crafting "armor".
Finally, someone who fuckin' got it.
People who say that Kratos is deeper (or more mature) are just woke gamers related to political points of views. They miss that he was a deep and complex character since the beginning: a broken toy of the gods that takes revenge on them turning a Greek tragedy into epic
Pandora: Hope is what makes us strong. It is why we are here. It is what we fight with when all else is lost
Atreus: ugh I'm a god no time to deal with little people's little problems. Whatever 🤪
It was an attempt at being deep but it was a poor one. You want us to be emotional attached to someone who kills everybody in the most brutal way possible and is angry most of the time. No he is deep now.
@@introduction1266 Kratos starts off sympathetic and over the series you see him blame everyone else but himself for his problems and destroy everything, including himself, in a quest of petty vengeance. It's simple, but it's a story about internal and external destruction that is very fitting for a game about ripping the entrails out of a cyclops. It's a dark power fantasy but it's very honest about the consequences of your actions.
There's no way you can see Kratos as redeemable by GoW III. But everyone in life has felt wronged by someone and wanted to do something about it at some point and that's exactly what Kratos lets you indulge. That's why his design screams raw power and aggression. But it also reminds you that revenge is futile and mutually destructive. The game gets you feeling aggressive and powerful. The story is a big "don't try this at home" disclaimer.
@@jasonfenton8250 I know that. ain't nothing wrong with a simple story...hell 2018 has a simple story but what it also has is complex characters. that's the formula to great storytelling because no one wants a convoluted plot and simple characters.
yes I know lol. all i'm saying is the past games lacked complex characters and kratos is way more developed now than ever before.
Why are people pushing for games to be like movies? I get that making them look more cinematic is cool but don't try to change something into a medium that it is not.
And why is there such a bug interest in story when games cared about character, its design and the gameplay? Story was there but it was driven by the character and not an "intricate" and "deep" narrative.
because people like stories, and games can be a good medium for them to be told.
People like the stories interwoven with gameplay these sorts of games restrict gameplay to prop up the story
making games with interesting, functional and fun gameplay is hard. It's much easier to make them about walking and looking at some generic scenery. Also pretend to make it "deep" with some bland character interaction, instead of creating interesting worlds, characters and concepts that offer something new.
give me an example of good game storytelling and gameplay.
"Instead of creating interesting worlds, characters and concepts that offer something new". None of the older God of War games had any of that. So stop whining like a little kid.
Also don't try to come back at me with a stupid statement. You didn't want interesting worlds or concepts. You wanted the same shit over again.
Leo Ramirez i never said the old god of war games had any of those, because they don't
Yobi Yopi Gameplay will always be more important than story, but it doesn't hurt to have one. Or, at least try to have one. Also the old gameplay is fun. I'll admit, but people have to give this one a chance.
the game already had me pissed off when I saw the nauseating Batman camera. I got pissed off again when I saw that the evade system looks clunky as shit. whats even worse was the shitty fucking kill on that ogre dude. where's the gore and head ripping?? all I saw was axe to the head that's it.
kratos isn't about unicorns and rainbows is all @andy_oz is saying. but aint nothing wrong with dick
Pretty sure that's a stereotype.
+Roxie ღ what's a stereotype?
SirDiaz black people is to kool aid as british is to tea
Because it wouldn't fit Kratos' character. He was always into women.
How to get a good game review:
1.) Be a 2d platformer that reminds you of your Sega Saturn
2.) Have the game basically be a movie so it does all the playing for you.
Or be open world.
I would have said nes or snes but basically yeah that is pretty much accurate.
More like Nes SNES and Genesis because Sega Saturn like indies aren't that common.
Pretty much. All reviewers are barely talking about the gameplay but are just gush over the "cinematic" experience
When you wanted a game to flop so badly because it's not like the old ones, and yet get shat on by every critic with critical acclaim. LOLOLOL
"FUCK THIS GAME! The production value is too good! I want 2D sprites & retro shit! Fuck this Cinematic game bro! This isnt a real game Bro IT'S a MOOVIE bro!"
Game developers don't seem to realise that games NEED "game scripts". If you have a movie script your game will turn into a movie and hence it'll just be The Last of Us all over again.
I like to call them "Walking simulators" or "interactive movies", why not just watch Raiders of the lost arc instead of playing Uncharted? Far cheaper. But I know I'll get death threads from Playstation Fanboys for this...
Hreesto You say that like last of us was a bad thing, I think there's a place for those types of games, the reason why this is appalling is because it's a series pretending to be something else, not because what it is is inherently bad
The Beast
Edit: At least funny death threads.
***** Yeah, there really is a place for them
In the movie industry
I don't think that's true, but I think a perfect balance has yet to be achieved between player agency and large sweeping stories. I just think it's beyond silly to discount a game type because you dislike it. While I do think it's wrong to disingenuously change a franchise to be what it's not, people have great times with these "Walking sims".
It's the same argument as sports games. I don't like sports games, but I'm not going to tell anyone that they should just play/watch the real sport because it's the same thing, that's just dumb.
Gods sake there isn't even a combo counter/meter
Even Batman has a combo meter! :(
Shit, you are absolutely right !!! God fucking dammit !!! Why is this God of War ???!
A COMBO METER!?! IN AN ACTION FRANCHISE!?! You, sir, are a fool! If we included combo system we wouldn't have time to write our "not a game script" game script!
no old theme songs, no quick time events, no combo meter, no old title screen with the iconic kratos face i mean should i really go on (the interview said it all), even tho god of war has changed i will still love it because god of war 1 was the first game i ever played AND im going to stay loyal to the franchise even if it does change beyond recognition
the series should've ended after 3 it was a great conclusion to the games
That is what i've always said but nooooooo they said "they are making GOW4".
Haven't they madfe 6 or 7 games already?
Sony sure likes to milk the franchize...
Oh yeah, the ending was great and ascension was totaly unnecessary, but people just want more and more of the same, just like ubisoft did with assassins creed.
The difference with Creed is at least they are making different games in different settings and with AC Egypt they're drastically changing the mechanics without making it less gameplay-centered
Jordan Slapping numbers on everything and making so that "de big numberz be better than smaller ones" isnt really a drastic change to mechanics XD
Cinematic games are fun once in a while, but there's way too many of them now. I've found myself skipping almost all the cutscenes in some games, because I'm mostly interested in the gameplay. I have tons of movies already I should be watching.
NorskTegnefilmSang State of decay 1 and 2 are about that gameplay minimal cutscenes
Ew
@Justin Snowden tried 0 and it was boring
NorskTegnefilmSang Bro who tf skips cutscenes in games
@Justin Snowden Done that already! I'm a huge fan of the Yakuza series and has played every single game without skipping cutscenes. Maybe it's the absurd comedy mixed in between the over-the-top action that appeals to me.
Why is it only relatively lesser known gaming channels raising a brow at this stupid change? Is the gaming "press" really this blind and terrible?
Oh, and great video.
These days a lot of the gaming press don't understand video games and what "fun" or "entertainment" mean.
Because the gaming press are not gamers.
if the game doesen`t have a cutscene or Scripted scene interrupting gameplay every 5 minutes it`s bad game
-every Big gaming Site and Press ever.
This is sadly what Gaming Press wants to play. Especially considering they suck at video games. They want a game that's mostly a movie so they don't actually have to try. Also they are pretentious fucks who think story should take highest precedence in video games.
It's a trend atm. As many says "the gaming press are not gamers". It's a freaking miracle that we still have actual games. *Uncharted*, *The Last of Us*, Metal Gear Solid, *Heavy rain*, *Beyond Two Souls*, *Detroit: Become Human*, *Days Gone* and *God of War* are all SONY IP and for them "Movie Games" is the big thing. And it must be, because people sure as hell are buying them.
I'm glad there are others that have a distaste for the shift in direction for this series. I'm growing tired of game series changing to try and conform to whatever is popular in the game industry at the time.
This new generation of gaming is so SOFT, They complain why the previous games are violent and not mature and Kratos angry all the time, this is another reason why I hate casual game
yea kinda like the new Saints Row game that just came out
@@Omega-jg4oq Member when games used to prioritize FUN over some political message?
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் nowadays games are like
- boring realistic graphics movies walking talking with a some soft dramatic boring story with boring downgrade gameplay hyped by blind fanboys and casual gamers
- Being extremely hard and unfair that is not enjoyable and fun anyway except for the pros but you have to put hours and efforts into it to the point it's annoying
- Games that takes your wallet and you have to pay for anything and pay to win
- some that lacks brutally and blood and adds censorship
- Battle Royal multipler cliché
- Toxic games and toxic gamers and trash community
- Rushed disappointed unfinished bad quality games with overhyped trailers that made you think it's the best game of all time
- Companies that milks games to the point of making games for every single year
@@Omega-jg4oq You forgot the Nostalgia CashGrabs and Indie games with pretentious "Art" gimmick.
To me, it was the close up camera that killed it for me.
We don't need it up close to Basque in the awesome and beautiful detail. It will look gorgeous either way.
And it was ESPECIALLY bad when in combat. Even the Arkham games knew how to distance the camera for the sake of fighting.
*bask lol, the Basques are an ethnic group in northeast Spain/southwest France.
This is modern day games, just bloody interactive movies
kids these days doesnt understand that mario is a movie
slenderblak sad how gaming has become, people are mindless to see
Most of the ps4 exclusives in a nutshell
Good
Kwame
Ok boomer! Go and insult people some more because the game isn’t for you!
Yeah, they really did map the attack buttons on the right shoulder pads.
For christs sake, there's nothing even resembling GoW anymore in this game, except for maybe part of the player model.
RoyalGreenTea You can remap everything. Has been confirmed. Trivial complaint.
I know but it kind of shows how the devs intend you to play the game. Not like a hack'n'slash, but kinda more like dark souls I guess.
What pisses me off more is the amount of praise it's getting from the fans.. God of war fans mostly don't care i guess.
That's absurd... what the fuck?
விஷ்ணு கார்த்திக் I'm a fan I care
And I love the new formula
The old one was getting stale by ascension, I mean look at how it flopped. The fans, even the studio were getting bored of it. So they made a new formula and it is honestly pretty good. I mean how can God of war compete with Bayonetta and Devil may cry. Those games trash it in sales
It's good to see people not praising mediocrity.
Are you fucking kidding me
@@Plutchuck you’ll get over it zoomer
You were right. Attacks are on the shoulder buttons 😰
Drunk Panda You can remap everything. Has been confirmed. Trivial complaint
CroneRaven1810
The combat is basic too basic
George Bush I haven't played it yet so I can't judge. From all the reviews that's up, it's anything but basic. You unlock more movesets and possibilities the more exp you earn etc. So yea
CroneRaven1810 don’t want to waste my money on it but compared to things that will come this year ( yakuza ) its very basic. I bet the reviewers liked it because it’s easy
@@ibrahim-ob1lt easy? game difficulty exist dumbass
I agree. This game is literally Last Of Us, they just replaced the characters with kratos and his son and replaced the zombies with monsters and called it a day. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT
You said that as if it were a bad thing
@@eddi8634 It is a bad thing, 'cause The Last Of Us is a completely different thing, and God Of War was trying to be like it. It's like taking Final Fantasy and turning it into an FPS
@@MauZangetsu in both I see bald grey guy killing monsters and facing gods with chains.
@@eddi8634 I'm talking about gameplay, stop playing dumb, that's bullshit
Amen
I understand why you and many others are disappointed at the change for God of War, I am too. However, I realised that after looking at both the reception of God of War 3 and it's later instalments. The target audiance for the game had no more interest in the series, for a few reasons.
God of War 3 killed off the most powerful figures in the series. This made the following games lose that looming threat that the bosses provoked; their shadows over the player was gone. There were no Gods, Titants nor Primordials to defeat. They were all dead.
Not only that but, the new team wasn't up to what the original team could preform, the original team that made God of War was gone. They had worked on other projects in the gaming industry and the majority of them had left to pursue other projects. The new team, whilst headed by the same people who worked on the original series, knew that they could not emulate the original series. So they decided to go back to the drawing board.
The reason they made changes to the gameplay, perspective, camera and the like. Is because they had already done everything they could in God of War 3. God of War 3 was the highest peak the series ever reached, after the third instalment it has never gotten as much attention as it once did.
I hate some of the choices they've made but, with it being impossible for them to surpass what they have already done with the team they have. They have to experiment with this new team, otherwise they will make a mess of their later projects.
***** Its common for people who write stories, films or whatever; To fall in love with their own main character. When they do this they tend to give them complete plot armour, making it seem as though they can take on the world. Kratos is evidence of this.
This game shouldn't have happened. Because they were too spinless to kill Kratos off then and there, due to their love of him, as well as the fans constantly asking for another God of War game. We get this.
***** Sequel are statistically proven to sell more than an new IP, so it was really inevitable.
ianmaluk1 That makes no sense kratos couldn't die at the end of the story because he was basically the new hades and he had hades weapon which is why no one else could control his soul. Plus why would he die there but not die any of the other times he died? I thought they should've made another game where he takes on gods from other mythologies, but keeping with the same combat system as the rest of the games. You don't need to have the original team to make a game feel like the rest of the series. Look at sly cooper 4 it's not even made by the original studio yet it feels like an actual sly game because they didn't fucking change the genre of the game and they had a plotline that felt like it fit the story. If they wanted to make a new game what they should've done was keep the gameplay the same and just explain how when he left he to walk the destoryed planet he found the lands of the other gods weren't changed by what he did since they all kept to their own territories. If they did that it would feel like a god of war game where he's found a bunch of new gods and kills all the new gods.
1. Kratos can die even if he was the new Hades, the same goes for the other Gods. They were born into the world, meaning they can die. They can live for a very long time but, if someone knows how to kill them they can and will kill them.
2. Kratos didn't want to die at any of the points he was killed, every time he died he had a reason to come back. There was no reason for him to come back after he killed himself, he gave hope to humanity, that's it he should have died.
3. The original team already planned the battles between other mythologies but as I already said, they fell in love with the character of Kratos. So they wanted to keep useing him in the same setting.
4. Yes, Sly Cooper was made by a different developer. However, they had the people from the original team both supervising and training them. That's why they were told to work on remastering The Sly Collection, that was their proof of concept for handling the sequel rights.
5. The new team in SIE Santa Monica Studio don't have anyone to train them how the original mechanics worked, nor how to accurately project them. They are new people from different backgrounds without mentors.
ianmaluk1 yes but kratos not only got powers from hades he also got powers from all of the other gods he killed. Plus he got powers from the titians he killed. He's also the only one to "die" as many times as he did yet cross over to the land of the living again. So it's not that far of a stretch to assume that the same rules don't apply to him since no one is their to keep him in the underworld and he already knows how to leave the underworld in more ways than one. My point about how sly still felt like sly is still valid there was definitely a way for them to make the game feel right. Plus in my opinion it's harder for sly than it is for god of war. Sly had more story and more main characters. When you make a new sly game even if all of the villians are different you still have 3 main characters to get right plus carmelita. Kratos is the only character that would've been the same if they did it right. Plus we will never know if they couldn't get it right with this new team since they didn't even attempt to get it right. They just made a new game because they wanted to be different but still have people who will for sure buy the game because of the name. Not just the people who will buy the game just because it's god of war but also the people who didn't see the trailer and see the game on the shelf and buy it without knowing it's not really god of war. In the end god of war is a hack and slash with boss fights that are like those old cinematic arcade games like dragon's lair. With a game like god of war as long as the combat was the same and you were still killing gods it would feel the same or at least pretty close to it. I guess we'll never truly know since they made the game like this instead of trying to make a game that felt like god of war
A game claiming to be "cinematic" is like a movie with a lot of on-screen text claiming to be like a book
And... this is all subjective
Metal Gear Solid 3 IS cinematic and many praise it as the best ps2 game and one of the best of all time.
Ernesto Gomes Bolaños lol
Ocarina sucks
for you
people who claim the og god of wars were nothing but mindless press square to win button mashers, clearly only played on easy/medium.
Even so, it was alot more enjoyable and well paced than the new Gow. It was never insanely deep just felt good to play.
if "normal" mode is mindless button mashing shouldnt that speak poorly of difficulty balancing
@@skibot9974 seeing as most games have up to 4 settings, normal being only 1 up from easy, i’d say no.
is doom eternal too easy and poorly designed because someone chose to only play on “hurt me plenty” (normal) difficulty? or halo 1’s normal?
no of course not. a games specific perfect blend of challenge and fun tends to be on the higher difficulties if well designed. normal and easy modes don’t detract from that design.
@@madookamagooka743 the way I see it easy mode is for those who are new at games or need extra accommodations. Standard should be how the game is primarily balanced NOT hard mode
I should mention I’ve yet to play a GOW game (thigh they’re on my list) but I feel normal and easy should be what’s advertised.
Gow 1 was hard on the normal difficult compared to the sequels. Ares pissed me off.
I think that people are missing the point of this video. The rant isn't because GOW changed. The problem here is that the series isn't evolving. The new game should have expand of what GOW was, a hack n slash/beat m up. They should created more creative mechanics and add more depth into it. Instead the developers chose to play it safe and drop the hack n slash completly in favor of a walkie-talkie relantionship feels dark souls like rpg game. This game seems to have become everything that is popular among the casual consumers who dont really want to play a game. Thats what the rant is about.
Αντωνης Φωστιερης shssh stop making sense.
Junior Duperval i know right, casuals can't process any of this
Αντωνης Φωστιερης Rip gow as a hack n' slash. Dont be suprised if Dante or Ryu as a son in their next game and it becomes a dark soulish game.
they won't DMC is the father of it's generations hack n slash. Capcom will go bankrupt if they do.
Αντωνης Φωστιερης if the developers wanted to add "creative machanics" and "depth" to the old formula, then they would've done it in the last 5 games. But they didn't, because God of war was never supposed to be a complex hack and slash game like DMC. That's why it got so popular in the first place, because most of its fans were casual gamers who wanted a simple hack and slash game. So the developers made 6 games with the exact same combat system and it became stale. This new GoW is taking the franchise in a new direction much like how fallout 3 took fallout in a new direction, and all the praise that it is getting is rightfully deserved.
You highlighted the very thing that worries me the most about this game; the idea that every developer wanting to chase after TLOU's success will be following in this game's example, throwing out everything great about the original games not because they want to be different, not because they genuinely believe this is a good direction for the series, but to copycat the popular guy in the room, and if we let them get away with stuff like this, soon everyone will be jumping on that gravy train and we'll have GTA throwing out it's wacky open world explosion fest to be a streamlined dadbeard story.
Lmao, you couldve used some other game as example besides GTA.. you had to pick the most popular video game in the world did you...
Dadbeard story🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, almost like a certain action series about greek mythology surfed on the trends of its time and never broke out of mediocrity in depth of mechanics or story and was popular especifically because of the spectacle of the experience, not the quality of gameplay.
You predicted RDR2's release in the same year.
Don’t you love it when games are embarrassed to be games
So its basically just a standard Sony exclusive where 90% of the game is an over glorified cut scene.
MultiCadias well that's more of a Naughty Dog game...
No
Genwunner good plz make more of these
@@gallzatron4046 thats subjective not fact i agree he should play it for himself and make a judgment. But i agree the game leaves a lot to be desired from a gameplay perspective and the continuity of the story and kratos's character doesn't mesh given that the events of the last game are included. Combat imho is a stiff, camera clunky mess, auto assist horrid, puzzles bland. Glad to have gow back just hopefully they focus more on gameplay next time rather than graphics and pandering.
@@gallzatron4046 It's not that it's a bad game but using the IP of "God of War" is the actual problem it could be a completely new IP yet they ruined the whole franchise because of this crap!
This aged like a fine wine lol
Agreed
Personally if they announced God of War 4 with the same basic game play and traditional gaming mechanics i wouldn't care as much. I'm happy that games are changing things up and not being handcuffed to the old ways of doing things. New ideas, new techniques and options is always the best thing to possess. No video game series should keep the same mechanics and game play forever, they always bring changes. (whether they be small or large changes)
New ideas, new techniques and options is always the best thing to possess.
The fuck are you talking about? They are simply ripping off Naughty Dogs ideas and techniques.
actually some things should stay. you just gotta make sure that those mechanics are meaningful. some games get worse despite no change because the developers forget some mechanics that are meaningful to the overall experience or because the game fails to challenge people in the way they expect
New?...i am sorry, but what?
What is "new" in The Dad of Us?
Dusan Ivic The Last of Us was not combat focused especially when it comes to melee weapons, this game shows actual melee mechanics when it comes to combat. The combat in Last of Us was really bad and encouraged you to sneak more than having more combat. So you see no changes in GOW4 compared to the previous trilogy? You must be blind.
+Christopher Clarke but this isn't even new it's just taking parts of games that don't even work as a brawl and shoving them in God of war
Dude, this was made in Jun 30, 2016 and today is April 22, 2018 and is so FUCKING ACCURATE. Almost 2 years..... wtf they did with all that time???
They spent the time on graphics and things like it.
Optimizing the game? Finishing the later parts of the game? Making sure it’s bug free as possible? Making sure the writing is well done? Playtest? Greenlight it? Ship it? You know...a few things lol
Paying off reviewers
XenoHunter516 Another blind hater I see
This video became relevant again!!!
Marius Urucu Brit called it. the attacks are actually on the shoulder buttons...
yea, the video is now on the right side of every god of war video
Drunk Panda You can remap everything though. Trivial complaint
Not really. Combat is still fast paced and brutal. This guy was an idiot who made a video based on the very little bit of gameplay provided. Alpha gameplay at that. People are just salty as fuck that GoW changed. It needed a change very badly. OMG the attacks are on the shoulder buttons. Big deal...
Nighhhts exactly
I haven't played GOWs yet but I have always loved the Action Hack n' Slash genre. Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, Ninja Gaiden (reboot) and Shinobi (reboot) it's sad to see a Action Hack n' Slash series become a Last of Us Clone. Another AAA cinematic, story focused, mainstream, slow, forced walking segments and dull combat. The new GOW looks vanilla compared to the original trilogy. I fear the Hack n' Slash will go the way of the Arena Shooter...extinct.
Arena shooter is back... Evil West😀😀😀
6:44 this man actually predicted the last of us 2 instead
lmao
One thing that bothers me is that people are making a big deal that he's a father. He was a father in every game, his backstory was that he was tricked into killing his daughter!
Exactly
He's not a father if the kid isn't following him around all the time - some game journalist probably
How can he be a dad if he doesn't have the generic soy beard?
@@triplecrosscounter i hated the new look
I... HATED how close the camera got to Kratos. Made me get stuck in fights
Wtf?! All these people in the recent comments trying to prove a subjective opinion wrong. Why? They’re acting like 10/10 scores changes our opinions and that we were lying to our selves.
They act as if we didn't know this game would get 10s. Anyone with a brain knows these type of games get mostly 10/10 by critics. He even stated it at 5:35 & 7:44
Zomagedon Well, an opinion that's built AFTER playing said game should not be criticized. But this video is 2 years old now, a lot of things has change. There's no shame in admitting some of the things he said were plain wrong and some were actually accurate predictions.
grace calis true, I agree with that. This video didn’t age well. But I’m pretty sure that his opinion still stands. In his e3 2017 video there was a point where he said the game is still scripted.
Zomagedon Again, these trailers were purposefully built to try and show off as little as possible. Cory, the director, said this himself. I'd like for him to play the game and give us his thoughts, because then at least wouldn't sound so much like speculation pretending to be reality.
Its just annoying that people like him making these opinions are the same people that bashed Resident Evil 4's new direction and then ended up sucking its dick.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Last of Us, but it's gameplay and story focus is NOT for God of War at all.
That Guy you misspelt "wasn't"
he literally didn't even use that word at all in his comment.
Yeah..... exactly my point.
That Guy TLOU isn't a hack n slash
god of war always had gameplay and had always a good story. dont fucking lie
2:07 Let me rephrase that: "Fuck you, old GoW fans, we traded you for TLoU crowd".
The craziest thing out of all of this is how many people will hate on you for not liking the new God of War: I borrowed my cousin’s copy of the game around the time it came out. And it was honestly boring even the story wasn’t that strong compared to other games like last of us. Anytime I said anything negative about the game all my friends would just tell me I have bad taste lol.
Cool friends.
Yup and you were totally right. 40% last of us cutscene shit with 0 gameplay, 40% running around throwing your axe at puzzle objects,20 % fighting against white walker boring enemy copies. And ofc it needs crafting bc every popular game has it. 1/10 a slap to the face of everyone who was invested in the franchise
MasuMasu Yeah gameplay was 65% of the game. Look up the Fucking the cutscene amount
MasuMasu >5 hour cutscenes in total in a 30 hour game
Haha I pity idiots like you XD it's really funny that you didn't enjoy it because that's one less cancer cell along for the ride :)
Lubble- 1397 why are you on this video then dumbass?
@@denzelromero4796 5 hours?
A prophet and a scholar........ You predicted what is currently happening.
He didn't.
@@Dragonage2ftw Why u mad bro? lol
My god you were totally right about it.
Will Notsay the game turned out to be good, wdym?
no the fuck he wasn't
DevilWithin dont pay attention to him, his fanbase is full of hipster trashs
dope malone only fanboys call other people fanboys, you know nothing about me, you are an idiot mr...
Yup here's living proof he was correct, a cancerous fanbase that sucks the game's dick
"You should play God of War 'cause it'll get ya laid."
10/10 quote.
Damn man, you got it SO right! I thought you were actually playing the game, then I checked the upload date. Wow, major props to you for prophetically spotting everything wrong with this game
Boomer! You’re all boomers
Yea this game was such a disaster /s. 94% metacritic. Game of the year. One of the best selling ps games of all time. Universally praised and loved. This is some weird echo chamber in here acting like this game flopped, or was going to flop LMFAO
@@aweigh1010 Come now man, that's not on. You need to relax. I'll admit my comment was fanboyish and i got caught up in the heat of the momemt. But there is no need to get that personal.
@@frankvandermerwe1487 it's not about the game flopping, it's about how the game effects the industry.
Kratos Son: "please tell me that all the Gods are dead, swear to me!"
Kratos: "I swear"
end credits: "God of War"
tun tun tun tun tunnn....
Kratos's Son: "Swear to me that you didn't kill fucking everything dad"
Kratos: yeah what-fucking ever...Swear it on my virginity.
As much as I think this game was good I totally agree with this.
I see it from both sides, it's a great game in it's own right but I have to compare it to the god of war games I loved and still play once in a while. I just feel the last game was better I loved kratos as a villain, I loved his rage, I love the more mature content and faster pacing and the story overall compared to this one. The first boss fight was the most epic and best part of the entire game, the rest just didn't compare to it, too few boss fights that were unique mostly just reskins and the combat just wasn't complex enough was just a bunch of button mashing you use the same strategy for everything.
@@darthbane2669 Mature? Are you serious? The previous games were catered towards preteens and just gorey. gorey does not = mature
@@pio5495 Dude the first game starts with kratos trying to kill himself
@@felixquesespa8551 yea its rated r but the story was not mature at all. Think jackass. I mean yes they were a bit gorey n shit but its for children.
It's one those situations where "It's a good game, but not a good X game.". I mean if it was not God of War I would not be as critical.
I think all of this would have been okay if it was not god of war ....
Liyenne Hagenberg i heard that it was supposed to be new ip but sony wanted BRAND NAME to sell
DrågōñŠolo 23 yes, it would have been far better
If it was developed by naughty dog.
@@mistergremm735 that would explain a lot
A lot.
This video is super accurate. Unfortunately people have fallen for this game hook line and sinker.
VejyMonsta lmao how? All he does is complain that is not like the past 6 games he's hasn't even played it
xartyomxX he brings up the valid points though, it changed for no reason and ppl eat it up cause it's not dmc such so it's fine but that can start a bad trend like MT or loot boxes
gbdeck200 For no reason? A lot of people felt the combat got stale and I agree. This game wouldve gotten flak if it stayed the same as well. People would’ve called if lazy and boring if they kept the same exact mechanics and combat of every other God of War game. Its funny how everyone in this comment section jumps to conclusions before even playing the game. Because as it turns out, the new God of War is actually deeper and more complex in its combat system. People also seem to jump to the conclusion that a game with a story means it has no gameplay or its gameplay suffers, which is such a stupid assumption.
TheJohnandrea finally someone who gets it.
TheJohnandrea Agreed. The game reveals that it has RPG elements too! If that's not gameplay friendly then I don't know what is. COME ON PEOPLE.
Thanks for making this, the new god of war is such a generic and mediocore game that's an insult to the original games' legacy. They should have just made a new IP, considering the new games are so divorced from what the original games were.
that combat system doesnt even look like a combat system tbh.
I think the drive to make game stories less like game stories and more like movie stories was always stupid. Not every game has to be Bioshock but even stuff like Deus Ex is a great example, it’s just a really good game with a really good story told very well through a game
Even Bioshock tied its gameplay into the story in an excellent way.
A Man chooses. A Slave obeys.
That moment when you're playing God of War and you wish the camera was zoomed in, you couldn't jump and Kratos had a son who would accompany him through the story, which by the way should be more sentimental and deeper
PREACH!
The Amazing Lucas
Woah! Lucas! I didn’t know you watched this video. I was just scrolling through the comments. Such a surprise to see you here.
"why did god of war go from a more shallow and cinematic yet still enjoyable video game about slashing shit up to a semi-interactive lame ass art film?"
"because it's 2016"
Not even an art film. It's more like a disney film.
Dead Stock Paradise actually gow isnt really shallow when you really think about it
Hubblebub Lumbubwub yea...right
Rename this video "The Dad of War Rant"
What the fuck is up with this trend of little girl Being saved by a scruffy 50 yr old man!? Is this some kind of fetish?
^^ No i'm not fucking retarded, that's why i care about the GAMEPLAY first&foremost. If i wanted a good story i'd watch a fucking movie or read a book.
விஷ்ணு கார்த்திக் a game can have both you moron
Ascension was a tad stale in my opinion. The changes are good and the gameplay has been revamped to allow for more options. Kratos is also showing some character development which is what he needs tomove forward. The kid is a boy by the way not a girl.
Ricky Gutierre relax lol
We need an update video on this game :D
Yannick Khong it's coming soon don't worry
Yannick Khong you got it son
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Ghost Shrimpe you obviously didn't play the game
Ghost Shrimpe you're wrong on so many levels lmao
That moment when you recognize the infamous Downpour L.P. footage.
The bit about playing, assigning a score, and moving onto the next thing is spot on and what I consider a major problem with current day gaming
They don't even finish the games they play because they have so much to play and get through. The whole thing is just bullshit.
That's exactly what happened with MGS V. They had about 48 hours to sleep, eat, socialize and review the game at the Konami Review Event. They'd have gotten maybe 24 hours of gameplay TOPS. And not one review points out the glaring flaws and gaping holes in the design of the story and the gameplay. There's something seriously wrong with the gaming industry in todays world.
its not a god of war game. its a game, that slapped the god of war name onto it, in order to get sales. it looks slow and clunky, and although they say, its gameplay will be different, it will probably be just pressing square to hit repeatedly. The latest generation of console games, have been rather shit. Being only on Pc these days, doesn't feel like i'm missing much in terms of gaming, considering the poor showing for many games.
Honestly, you're not really missing much. There are only a few exclusives on the PS4 worth experiencing because of how fun they were to play. But it's a shame to say only a few.
Until Dawn is damn good, tought I guess as a game, it is very bad. Also the framerate was really bad at times, couldn't even keep cinematic 30 most of times.
UC4 is really good too I heard, I just burned out with it with the 3rd one. I finished it becouse I was already so far into it, for some reason I have no interest to play the 4th one. 2nd one was bloody amazing tought.
Is there any others? There has to be, right?
infamous second son... bloodborne..
I call it the Tomb Raider 2013 syndrome. They look better and have a more cinematic feel but in the process they lost the essence of what made those franchises great in the first place.
it's a business
getting sales is the point
seriously love the accuaracy of this video.
Mr Natgeo I know right??? I could watch this video forever
Zomagedon
My god, Sycophant much?
Story is extremely important in video games, but I'm tired of the excess of games that are trying to be ultra realistic.
***** To say that video games can't be an excellent medium for story telling is insane. Hell, I prefer storytelling in video games to any other media. To say that a game can't marry gameplay and story together and excel at both is also insane.
Someone hasn't played the Halo games.
***** I would say it depends on the game. A game such as Life is Strange is built around being story driven, and for many franchises the story is extremely important to many fans.
In the case of the God of War (judging from the video alone), I agree that the new direction of being more a emotional roller coaster walking simulator is a bad idea.
***** I agree. God of War isn't a game I would likely go to for a compelling story.
Yeah, you can tell very unique stories through video games, what bothers me to no end is the need to dumb down gameplay instead of improving the interactive aspects of the game just to make it more "cinematic" or whatever.
Story is important in some video games, not all video games.
I feel there's a twist.
His son probably dies and then he goes nuts again.
sadly the developer had stated that he wants the game to be all about raising your son
Ray Cocker Nah the twist involves your son being important to Norse mythology
Denzel Romero Which isn't half as cool as Greek one. Gimme Egyptian Mythology any day but fuck this viking bullshit
விஷ்ணு கார்த்திக் There will probably be a GOW game on other mythologies you can wait till then
Denzel Romero hopefully by that time this 3rd person "feels open world adventure" type of gameplay is dead. Until then, DMC5 is the only Hope for hack'n'slash genre.
I feel like a lot of the ps4 exclusives are starting to follow the same formula. Graphics over gameplay
Don't forget narrative
I've just plain given up on games like the last of us, horizon zero dawn and this new God of war they are not games with cool mechanics or simple fun they're stories prenteding to be games with crappy scripted sequences to fake tension and generic characters along with a young child character to lazily build emotion
James McGuinness
What's your problem with Horizon? It's got some of the most engaging combat in recent years with tons of ways to approach it. The Last of Us's combat might not be very innovative or deep, but I still had a blast playing it on Grounded. And it has one of the most enjoyable multiplayer modes I've ever played. The amount of ways you can approach the multiplayer is insane too. You can build stealth builds that are very viable and feel completely different from others. And going one against a whole team and beating them has never felt so great. Just look at this.
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And you haven't played this game. You don't even know if the combat will be engaging or not. Is it really necessary to have a fixed camera and normal hack and slash gameplay? Can things not evolve and still retain a lot of the same aspects? There's still combos, light and heavy attacks, etc. There's no jumping but you do gain a ton of spatial awareness due to the camera and new ways to approach combat due to this. Using ranged weapons can now actually be fun rather than just something to spam. Throw your axe at this enemy to freeze them and continue your combo with other weapons and then line up other enemies to be hit with the axe when you call it back and then continuing your combo. I can already see myself having fun with that.
And sorry, I wanna care about the characters I play, atleast if the game is attempting to have a story with complex characters. You might not remember this, but Kratos was a bit more complex in the first game and the games that followed were almost nothing but rage. And care to actually explain what was wrong with The Last of Us's characters? Rather than just a generic comment about "crappy scripted sequences and fake tension" how about actually explaining that position because literally anybody can say that about anything. It doesn't matter unless you can back it up otherwise it's an opinion without any thought behind it.
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You gotta play Bloodborne, my man. It's a masterpiece and exclusive to PS4. From Software never dissapoints.
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The new God of War looks horrible and probably is.
THe continuing demise of action games into cinematic interactive stories. I'm so glad other people feelthe same way. This is something going on with PS4 exclusives
Even though I disagree, I must say that this was a well-made video with solid points I find myself nodding my head at.
But if I'm being honest, the reason I'm actually interested in this new direction GoW is taking is the same reason you're not- it's becoming more like TLoU/Uncharted. I really liked TLoU, I really like slow "walky-feely" games, and I've never been interested in character action unless they had an interesting story or were associated with games I did like (see: MGR Revengeance).
I get you're point and I don't think you're wrong or anything; this is a wildly different direction that could go wrong and it means one less of a kind of game you like, that sucks. But personally I'm interested in GoW for the first time ever. I guess my point is that there isn't one way to judge a video game, they can be made with different design goals in mind and still be equally worthwhile, and having more of one kind of game than another isn't necessarily bad for gaming as a whole.
+Andy Oz I would try and keep an open mind and judge the game on its own merits, albeit remaining skeptical over such a drastic change in direction. Which is what I'm doing for GoW and RE7. Change isn't always bad after all.
Also some people would say that Nathan Drake is already sociopath that kills everyone :P
Isn't that kind of how TLOU ended?
+Christian Hansen Would you like if NaughtDog announces that Uncharted 5 and The Last Of Us 2 will be hack and slash games?
And how can you not like for example
Devil May Cry 3?
Or Bayonetta 2?
I would probably do the same thing I did with Revengeance and give it a shot because I like the universe. At that point if the game is good then there won't be a problem. If it sucks, it would fail on its own merits and not because it didn't stick to its roots.
I see a lot of complaints about games that are bad because they deviate from their genre (RE6, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, etc.), but from my perspective all that criticism about straying away from the series roots comes after the fact: a game is only bad for "straying from its roots" if it was a bad game in and of itself, because there exist games that do depart from the series core mechanics while still being good games. Granted, games that do make radical departures from the original design are taking much bigger risks, due to unfamiliarity within the design team and alienation from established fans. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched.
As for the second part of your question, I don't inherently dislike DMC3 or Bayo 2 or any of the other character action classics, in fact a big reason I'm subscribed to TheGamingBritShow is because I like to hear what he has to say about character action. It's just that I've always been drawn more to story-centric "slower" genres, with cutscenes and downtime; games like XCOM: Enemy Unknown, Fallout: New Vegas, Fire Emblem, Life is Strange, MGS2, and of course TLoU just to give you a broad strokes image. That's not to say I don't like action games at all, just that typically games with frenetic gameplay or high dexterity challenge (like platformers, fighting games, arcade-style games, etc.) stress me out too much to enjoy. I will say my tastes are changing: right now I'm wrapping up Dark Souls 1 after completing Bloodborne, and the Souls series are games that I would normally NEVER consider playing because I always thought they were too difficult and stress-inducing. I'll probably give DMC a try sooner or later.
Yes but the thing is,there are many good games like The Last Of Us Already,and many more good games of the action genre are coming,each 10 "The Last Of Us Games" , they make 1 "Metal Gear Rising Game, Devil May cry or Bayonetta Game"
How many good hack and slash games are been made right now?
Just Nier Automata and maybe Nioh,
and now hack and slash games genre lost the most important (not the best) hack and slash game ever made that is
God Of War.
Thank God someone got it right!
What exactly did he get right. I saw no point to all his rant.
Pointless and annoying, nothing more.
William Ramos *Thank God of War someone got it right
FIFY
Never pass an opportunity for a pun
Teaveus did Sony send you.. you fuckin piece of shit
Thank the gods there still people who use their brains instead of just following stupid trends
Why? You're not one of them.
I think it's funny that people watched 2018 GOW footage then decided to complain about a critique made in 2016. Gamingbrit is a classic hack and slash fan. He's allowed to critique a change in direction for the series.
Harry Lime. Ha! So true. Gaming brit was one of the only ones who didn’t like it In 2016 and all of a sudden, people share the same views in 2018.
Maybe its because people cant think on their own and jump bandwagons because its trendy and gives them upvotes. This us just opinion leading at its best.
I love how the premise of the video is "yep, this is where games are now, we're literally making the vidya equivalent of oscar bait now and the journos and normies are gonna lap it up because it has decent writing and pretty visuals."
and then the snoy brigade comes in and goes "haha this aged so poorly, lol, normies and journos lapped this game up and its infinitely worse, even more oscar-bait-like sequel even more so lol"
Thank you finally someone that understand my tears.. thank you
I agree with you in all. I felt lonely in this but now I understand there are much people who loved God of War and don't like the new turn of this game. :)
its insane how people say that " the old god of war gameplay doesnt work on this period of time" . i started playing god of war 3 on ps3 and its still a fun game to play even after 7 years after its release. this situation of god of war 4 just shows how the casuals ruin gaming . they buy everything that looks like an interactive story instead of an actuall good games.i hate that my favorite gaming franchises will be ruined because everything needs to be suited for the casuals. another example of this bs can be seen in fallout 4 that changed the series from a post nuclar rpg to a post nuclar far cry clone. im sick of that my favorite games are dumbed down just because the casuals are dumb idiots who cant learn how to use a combat system or figure out things for themselfs. atleast we got nier automata that is a amazing heck and slash arpg game that isnt for casuals at all.
ofek gauero I only played God Of War 1 a couple years ago (mid 2016 when I got a ps2) and I loved it.
nobody said that. stop bringing up fake quotes
Typical “hard core” gamer that judges a game before release. Get fucked, kid.
ofek gauero That have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with casual... The old god of war style was out of date they had to change the formula and they did it for the best of it. If you dont like this game youre not a real gamer.
Calls gamers casuals yet his first GoW was 3... mmmmyeah
After playing it for a few hours, God of War 4's combat is anything but dumbed down.
Basically GoW 4's combat added more complexity by giving players choice to their playstyle
Both Kratos and Atreus have a skill tree
Armor upgrades grants you stats and status effects
Kratos and Atreus can equip runes (which are all upgradable) onto your weapons and armor that offer different moves (there's so many damn moves in this game)
Combat is more precise and mashing gets you killed fairly quickly
Enemies have a stun meter which increase the more you use melee based attacks
Elemental damage plays a huge factor to different enemies so you can create builds for certain encounters
Andy Oz pretty sure you didn’t play the game. Tunes give you different abilities to use in gameplay. If you hate any kind of depth in a game, then just don’t play games in general
Cyber Ocelot that shit isn't fucking depth,DMC has depth and it doesn't have all that RPG bullshit to stretch out it's Action
Choosing up equipment isn't part of ripping off an enemy's head,see the matter here?
Funny how I absolutely adore a game like Monster Hunter, where I'll spend hours happily grinding enough materials to min/max my character for a specific encounter with weapons/armour, stat advantages, item vulnerabilities all alongside a stamina meter and slow deliberate weapon attacks...Yet God of War 4 does nothing but come across as a stale try hard piece of shit slapping all the typical RPG mechanics in for the sake of "all duh best games have dis!". Monster Hunter is a game built around this stuff, God of War 4 just slaps it in because it's basically expected to be there regardless of whether it belongs.
Original God of War (alongside games like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Revengence, Bayonetta) had depth without all the RPG bullshit. A couple weapons and a massive list of attacks. You can smash your face against the controller on normal mode and get to the end easily enough, but only by really jumping into and learning those games systems will get you through the harder difficulties these sort of games were intended to be played on in the first place.
It is hilariously dumbed down, what are you talking about? LOL
I mean holy shit it is bad
I feel like this explains why I find gameplay to stand head, shoulders, knees, and toes above story in terms of importance in video games.
I think it depends on what the game is going for. If you're God of War and you're striving for some amazing narrative, you're doing yourself a disservice because your forte should be fun and exhilarating combat, and you're straying from that and your roots as a hack-and-slash game. However, I can appreicate something like a Silent Hill or certain RPGs where most of the gameplay is structured in a way that lends itself to a good story and characters.