I get that they're trying to make their Origin forms look like they are something Arceus made in it's image but Palkia should've kept it's arms and be more like a centaur.
I enjoy the theory that people have about why the origin forms look the way they do. It's Dialga and Palkia trying to mimic their creator's power, hence why they look similar to Arceus, but also being punished for attempting to mimic his power by losing what they use for their signature attacks. Spacial Rend is Palkia clawing through space, so it loses it's arms, while Roar of Time is Dialga roaring through time, so it blocks it's throat. Makes me like the designs a little more, thinking there's a reason behind them.
but why did the legendary pokemon blew it up though? its a place to worship Arceus and why does the Origin transformation not destroy everything everytime it occurs?
@@theamazingspooderman2697pretty sure it’s just collateral damage from energy from the Legendary transforming into Origin Form without it’s respective item and the other Legendary shielding the Player and the Clan Leaders from the same energy.
idk if its true, but I saw a comment somewhere that the reason palkia and dialga look so boofy, is because they were trying to be more like arceus, he punished them. Dialga's throat was blocked so he couldn't use roar of time, and palkia's arms were taken to hinder use of spacial rend.
@@GrimCrumbz I fully believe this theory is correct now, looking at PLA they're the only games in the series to have an altered dex entry for each of the creation trio's "origin forms". For Palkia, it says "It soars across the sky in a form that greatly resembles the creator of all things. Perhaps this imitation of appearance is Palkia’s strategy for gaining Arceus’s powers." I think the word "imitation" is important here, it doesn't make it sound like Arceus created Palkia to be in this form, almost like this could be it's "Imitation Form" and not Origin. For Dialga, the dex states "Radiant light caused Dialga to take on a form bearing a striking resemblance to the creator Pokémon. Dialga now wields such colossal strength that one must conclude this is its true form." This is Laventon writing this and we can conclude he named them the Origin forms based off this thought, but why would Dialga choose to block it's throat, it's way of using Roar of Time? The form Dialga and Palkia is imitating in itself isn't Arceus as well, its just an avatar. It seems to me that Arceus would show them it's true power through this punishment upon them. We also don't see these forms in DPP, possibly meaning they learned not to test their creator. (Although this could just be because they didn't exist when DPP was made). With Giratina, the juxaposition of the Creator, it's black sheep child if you will, the dex states "Giratina loses its legs upon changing into this form. I believe this Pokémon must hail from a world where the heavens and the earth are as one, though I have no way of proving it." The fact the dex mentions the origin form loses it's legs makes me think that in the distortion world, Giratina can move freely throughout the space in it's origin form, but when in the human realm we see it in it's altered form. Giratina can come to the human realm whenever it so chooses as we see in PLA and DPP, I think that it doesn't want to due to Arceus' punishment of grounding it, making it slower and it's wings smaller, not being able to fly with them OR using it's signature move, Shadow Force, to the maximum potential. We actually see this with the animation for it changing in PLA when in it's Origin Form.
I like to think these are the first physical forms they took, though where they were made by Arceus or by themselves is up in the air. Also these forms are canonically VASTLY more powerful than their altered forms and Dialga’s Roar of Time and Palkia’s Spacial Rend are shown to be more powerful in game. Dialga’s diamond, which is the source of its power, has expanded and moved closer to its mouth which would make it easier to use Roar of Time. Also the diamond resembles the hands on a clock and in Legends while using Roar of Time a bunch of plates circle around it with the diamonds jutting outwards last to make the clock resemblance more striking. Palkia’s power source, its pearls, have now completely engulfed its shoulders(?) and have grown so powerful that it doesn’t its arms which have become its forlegs. When it uses Spacial Rend in Legends, the ring on its waist expands and resembles ripples on the water’s surface. Simply by running it can shatter space.
@@MaxWelton While game stats are for balancing purposes and shouldn’t be viewed as canon, Roar of Time actually gets stronger (120->140 power) but loses accuracy (90->75) Spacial Rend loses 10 power and accuracy in exchange for +2 crit rate, guaranteed crit in strong style
I didn't think The Pokemon Company would figure out ways to add more to the Sinnoh region's lore, but here we are. They did what I thought was impossible. And I applaud them for it.
Its like Angels... and then you have biblically accurate angels. Its crazy how many people seem to have thought they looked bad when to me it only makes sense that they would directly resemble their creator. These are their divine forms of origin.
@@Robin_GlorbGiratina is kinda odd because it was originally banished by Arceus for being a dick head, so its held a huge grudge against Arceus and pretty much does its own thing. It’s based a lot on “fallen angels” as the distortion world seems to be like a representation of Hell and Giratina is a giant serpent. The last thing it’d want to do is resemble Arceus in any form.
In a way, horses are used in a lot of biblical scenarios like the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse for example and the horses they ride. Palkia losing arms but still having a centaur like build makes sense for the unconventional and out there design like how biblically accurate angels also have looks that feel out of place in the natural world.
@@Forged4War206Makes sense, and with biblical terms, serpents are usually portrayed with demons like the serpent that manipulated Adam and Eve to eat the fruit they were forbidden to eat from and even how during the end times, the demon is portrayed as a Dragon like beasts which are usually serpent like creatures. So the origin form being a wyrm/serpent makes sense.
All these poketubers going 'you threw the wrong ball' somehow missing that, the ball you threw wasn't to CATCH the legendary, you were sending out the other one to protect you (if you look really closely just as the explosion happens you can see it protecting you) that's why it's out after the dust settles, b/c you sent it out.
The presence of the creation trio having origin forms suggests Arceus has an altered form, seperate from its change with the multitype ability, and probably in the shape of a terrestrial being, since the creation trio are shaped like dragons in their altered forms
well, I could be wrong, but from what I heard, these forms are a form of punishment from Arceus, like these 2 wanted to be him or like him too much, and he took Palkias arms so he cant use space rend, and put that big bulge on Dialgas throat so he cant use roar of time. At least that's what I heard a while ago.
@@jonathanh3214It is said these are their original forms, but I headcanon them as Palkia and Dialga, in their insanity, twisted and contorted their bodies in a bid to look more like Arceus, and in the process Palkia cripples himself by ridding him of his arms, making Spacial Rend weaker, and Dialga cripples himself by making Roar of Time much more energy draining, making Roar of Time lose even more turns.
Incomprehensible gods, one taking the other's concept to heart when transforming into a beast.. I actually love the centaur design, and find the entire idea very neat.
If Palkia had arms like a centaur, I think I would have loved the design. Unfortunately... yeah, doesn't work for me. Cool fight, though. Even better music.
@@Lucifronz People are obsessed with Palkia not having arms when I could easily see something like that being a JRPG boss. Some Pokemon fans are scared of non-conventional designs for ironically nonconventional Pokemon
Kinda odd that Origin Giratina has no ring... We could almost call it a "Halo" at this point, and that could really emphasize that Giratina, lacking one (either got it removed or never had one) is the symbolism of Giratina being the God of Hell.
@@Gazing-09 why did I never think of that!? Sorta like it’s halo was destroyed when it was banished to the distortion realm which would be like the fall of Lucifer, further connecting it to Satan or a ruler or god of hell in which case the distortion world is HELL. So in platinum Giratina dragged Cyrus into HELL like people say demons can do if you summon them.
Am I the only one who looks at Origin Palkia and thinks it's a centuar, not a horse? Also, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Diagla’s design based on a horse?
@@TheNamelessOne888 Would have taken me a while to get the Kirin vibes, I mean I'm used to see Kirin being closer to deers with antlers and chimeric design... But that makes sense tho', I mean Arceus itself was based on the Lamb of God, and lambs are close enough to the Kirin...
It makes sense how Dialga and Palkia are in similar forms to Arceus, like how God created Humans in his image, Arceus made these two pokemon in his image.
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 I think the main reason people like the steel dragon combo more is that it's essential a dragon type that doesn't have a single typical dragon type weakness. Also in the Plakia vs Dialga match up Dialga has the type advantage for that exact reason.
Reactions aside I did find it really cool that we got to see how Spear pillar became ruins. Also crazy they remained in that state all the way up to the events of Gen 4.
Honestly can’t wrap my head around the people saying Palkia needs his arms like.. that would look ridiculous on this design. Idk origin palkia is one of my favorite Pokémon designs ever he’s so regal and the scene of him looking down on you is so intimidating
@@Lucifronz different opinions then man. For me seeing all the redraws and remodels with arms just look ridiculous and crammed in there. *I* can’t wrap my head around thinking this design looks bad, it’s just different perspectives.
The only thing im not a fan of in palkia's design is the front legs being so "organic", with the kneecaps and malleoluses bones looking like a real horse, without any darkish purple detail or decoration like the upper part of the body. But i also think it's cool af, and super regal
@@mikrokosmochi now that you mention it yeah the legs (and tails tbh) seem super plain color-wise compared to the rest of the body. More dark purple would’ve been super nice but ah well 😔
Honestly I guess I just understood now why they're designed like that: Dialga loses his throat to get the power needed to be like Arceus (no more throat means no more ROAR of Time) and Palkia loses his arms (no more Spacial REND). On the other hand, if Palkia and Dialga sacrifice something of themself, Origin Giratina's design underline that if you want a stronger Shadow Force, a move that let you sneak behind the target, you do not only need a world of yours, but you need to adapt to that move, and that's because Origin Giratina is based off Genesis' primordial sin snake
I really like the origin forms and i dislike people saying they copied Arceus. They look like how they do because Arceus made them.... Could they look better? Maybe, but im glad they still got something when Giratina's had one since 2009.
@@RoyArkon Together the rings around Palkia and Dialga make up the ring around Arceus. Dialga has the 4 points while Palkia's is rounded and they both together make Arceus' complete ring.
@Golden Pug Studios The only thing ugly here is your comment, and these are not fusions, these are alternative forms and they make perfect sense, and they both look awesome, especially Dialga. They are creations of Arceus, and therefore it makes perfect sense they will get forms like that. End of story.
Arceus doesn't have an upper torso attached to its horse body like some sort of incomplete centaur. This wasn't even close to the checkmate you clearly thought this was.
@@Lucifronz why would Palkia grow extra legs/arms? It would only do so to be conventional for what is an already non-conventional design. It looks more Arceus-inspired than the abomination that is Origin Dialga
It’s interesting how their Origin Forms are so similar to one another and yet so different from Giratina. Though, I feel like there were more Palkia there than Dialga in this, though i could be wrong.
@@captainnomekop5056 ehhh Rapidash is a horse but with some imagination sure... I don't hate the designs either but to me they are objectively worse. They could look cooler than the originals but you would have to change a few things. Dialga looks like it has something stuck in his throat so remove that or make it smaller, the front legs look silly make them slim like his back pair. Palkia though oof where do I start. Those hooves look stupid so make his legs bigger, give him an extra pair of arms or remove those shoulder pads because it makes him look like he has no arms. Actually five him a lance that would look sick af and maybe make the wings bigger or give them a different shape like they did with his tail.
For whatever reason, I never wondered where its arms went. I guess in my mind, its arms became legs. I dunno, I was just in awe... I managed to go in completely blind and the origin formes caught me off-guard.
Theory, the reason why the origine formes are so demented, is cuz the opposing legendary interupts the entire transformation with their attacks in the cut scenes
I love how there is an equal split on whether Palkia/Dialga Origin forms are either a punishment or them becoming closer to Arceus. In my opinion, it feels like both. They managed to attain the power that their creator holds but at the cost of their original purpose. Palkia rending space with its claws while Dialga allowed time to flow through it's breath. In Origin form, the former lost those important arms and the latter has its neck choked by a blinding. What's more interesting is the jewel, Lustrous and Adament, are gone. Only faded markings of the items that represent their previous forms
Honestly really like the New forms, they look like something out of the bible, especially palkia. Also the fact that the creation trio's origin forms combined make a arceus look-a-like is cool as shit
Oh boy... while I've always preferred Dialga's design over Palkia's, here is the opposite. Moreover, I can now relate Origin Palkia to the god "Poseidon" (God of sea, storms, earthquakes, and HORSES) So the design is fitting imo.
@@dedriansanchez8409 it's 100% the shoulders at least for me. As it is, it looks like a centaur without arms. If it didn't have the shoulders it would just be a horse, or a giraffe if the neck is so long.
I actually like both their origin- form designs over their normal designs. I find them to be a huge improvement. While their original forms did make them feel like legendary pokemon, they always seemed less aesthetically pleasing than the other legendary pokemon that they were associated with. In their origin forms not only do they look like legendary pokemon, but they also look very ethereal.
Origin Palkia's design actually grew on me quite a bit. Only thing that still irks me is its lack of arms, which I get! It went from bipedal to quadrupedal-those front two legs had to come from somewhere-I just wish they would have made it look more seamless. Because it looks way too much like it's supposed to have arms, and instead an armless torso has just been stitched to the body of a horse, lol. Beyond the arm thing, I really do like Palkia's origin design. I love how majestic the whole pegasus/centaur vibe is. That's how I see it, anyway. Oh, oh, and I love the little detail of Palkia shaking its head and snorting like an angry horse during its cutscene, lol.
I wish it didn’t cut away so quickly. all we get out of these reactions is “WOAH! WHAT?” and then it’s the next clip. I wanna hear more of what they have to say about it
I like how most of them captured their legendary in a Ultra ball meanwhile Hoodlum & Ttar tube caught theirs in a regular Pokéball. But I mean legendaries since Gen4 have been easier to catch with higher rates, so it's not insane to believe that they did that. If I missed some1 else who also managed to do this then lmk.
When I first see Palkia origin form I honestly doesn't quite fond with it too because just like them I was like *wtf what they done to my boy???* I used to play a rid of pokémon game called Petown and Palkia was my ace pokémon there so I grow in love with him. Now that I seen the form again I guess it not like all that bad tho
Origin Dialga Reactions: Oh okay, it looks like Arceus
Origin Palkia Reactions: WHERE ARE YOUR ARMS/WHY IS IT A HORSE?!
Both are god damn abominations, 1 million times worse than Black and White Kyurem.
Nightmare every night now my childhood is so faaaar wtf🤣
I love how ONLY Zackscottgames is the Chill one.
I get that they're trying to make their Origin forms look like they are something Arceus made in it's image but Palkia should've kept it's arms and be more like a centaur.
@@readlater8962 yeah i'm not a fan of origin palkia's model because it has no arms,it just looks stupid
I enjoy the theory that people have about why the origin forms look the way they do. It's Dialga and Palkia trying to mimic their creator's power, hence why they look similar to Arceus, but also being punished for attempting to mimic his power by losing what they use for their signature attacks. Spacial Rend is Palkia clawing through space, so it loses it's arms, while Roar of Time is Dialga roaring through time, so it blocks it's throat. Makes me like the designs a little more, thinking there's a reason behind them.
Then why are they called Origin forms? It just gives the impression of “God created man in his own image”.
@@q-miiproductions878 because Arceus it's the literal "origin" of the whole damn universe?
Getting to see how Spear Pillar ended up the way it is in D/P/Pt is so fucking cool lmao, first guy had the right energy
Surprised you don’t know Alpharad
@@thejoeyguy_tbf I recognized him from the character, it’s harder to know who some people are when they don’t do facecam
damn i didn't even notice it was alpharad lol
but why did the legendary pokemon blew it up though? its a place to worship Arceus and why does the Origin transformation not destroy everything everytime it occurs?
@@theamazingspooderman2697pretty sure it’s just collateral damage from energy from the Legendary transforming into Origin Form without it’s respective item and the other Legendary shielding the Player and the Clan Leaders from the same energy.
My favorite has gotta be "WOT THE FOCK IS THAT??? T'SA FOCKEN HORSE!!"
She sounds like Gloria from Sword and Shield
@@kirara4953 you mean the cringe Scottish Fandub used in those cringe comics?
Pass this crap! Pass this crap! LOL
It's not Wot the Fock. It's What the fuck
Guess you can say he's not, "horsing", around anymore
Origin Dialga: “okay, it looks a bit more like Arceus.”
Origin Palkia: H O N S E
H O N S E
H O N S E
H O N S E
H O N S E
H O N S E
idk if its true, but I saw a comment somewhere that the reason palkia and dialga look so boofy, is because they were trying to be more like arceus, he punished them. Dialga's throat was blocked so he couldn't use roar of time, and palkia's arms were taken to hinder use of spacial rend.
Even if it's not true that's cool as hell
@@GrimCrumbz I fully believe this theory is correct now, looking at PLA they're the only games in the series to have an altered dex entry for each of the creation trio's "origin forms". For Palkia, it says "It soars across the sky in a form that greatly resembles the creator of all things. Perhaps this imitation of appearance is Palkia’s strategy for gaining Arceus’s powers." I think the word "imitation" is important here, it doesn't make it sound like Arceus created Palkia to be in this form, almost like this could be it's "Imitation Form" and not Origin. For Dialga, the dex states "Radiant light caused Dialga to take on a form bearing a striking resemblance to the creator Pokémon. Dialga now wields such colossal strength that one must conclude this is its true form." This is Laventon writing this and we can conclude he named them the Origin forms based off this thought, but why would Dialga choose to block it's throat, it's way of using Roar of Time? The form Dialga and Palkia is imitating in itself isn't Arceus as well, its just an avatar. It seems to me that Arceus would show them it's true power through this punishment upon them. We also don't see these forms in DPP, possibly meaning they learned not to test their creator. (Although this could just be because they didn't exist when DPP was made). With Giratina, the juxaposition of the Creator, it's black sheep child if you will, the dex states "Giratina loses its legs upon changing into this form. I believe this Pokémon must hail from a world where the heavens and the earth are as one, though I have no way of proving it." The fact the dex mentions the origin form loses it's legs makes me think that in the distortion world, Giratina can move freely throughout the space in it's origin form, but when in the human realm we see it in it's altered form. Giratina can come to the human realm whenever it so chooses as we see in PLA and DPP, I think that it doesn't want to due to Arceus' punishment of grounding it, making it slower and it's wings smaller, not being able to fly with them OR using it's signature move, Shadow Force, to the maximum potential. We actually see this with the animation for it changing in PLA when in it's Origin Form.
I like to think these are the first physical forms they took, though where they were made by Arceus or by themselves is up in the air.
Also these forms are canonically VASTLY more powerful than their altered forms and Dialga’s Roar of Time and Palkia’s Spacial Rend are shown to be more powerful in game.
Dialga’s diamond, which is the source of its power, has expanded and moved closer to its mouth which would make it easier to use Roar of Time. Also the diamond resembles the hands on a clock and in Legends while using Roar of Time a bunch of plates circle around it with the diamonds jutting outwards last to make the clock resemblance more striking.
Palkia’s power source, its pearls, have now completely engulfed its shoulders(?) and have grown so powerful that it doesn’t its arms which have become its forlegs. When it uses Spacial Rend in Legends, the ring on its waist expands and resembles ripples on the water’s surface. Simply by running it can shatter space.
But the moves are also less accurate and therefore worse @@Pixelite_
@@MaxWelton While game stats are for balancing purposes and shouldn’t be viewed as canon, Roar of Time actually gets stronger (120->140 power) but loses accuracy (90->75)
Spacial Rend loses 10 power and accuracy in exchange for +2 crit rate, guaranteed crit in strong style
I didn't think The Pokemon Company would figure out ways to add more to the Sinnoh region's lore, but here we are. They did what I thought was impossible. And I applaud them for it.
Sinnoh's lore probably the deepest generation out of the current 8
@@oryxryox5687 I know.
Kalos is probably a close second, Az’s weapon, the war, and so many things left unanswered, we NEED a legends Zygarde (After legends Kyurem)
@@mcshazer3115 average kalos delusion
@@blomgaming6480Nothing but pure fact in their comment.
People kept saying “where did palkia’s arms go” when they legit got on all 4s before transforming, what do you think the arms were turned into-
@@TheNamelessOne888 Centauro
Its a shit design thats why people dont like it
@@supersaiyannigga5980 can you please explain how? This is legit one of the most creative ideas I think Nintendo has ever made in a pokemon game
@@kohlromero the worst idea ever
@@nangcucgaming shit opinion
It actually made me SUPER happy that they kept track of what pokeball you used and I don't know why
Its like Angels... and then you have biblically accurate angels.
Its crazy how many people seem to have thought they looked bad when to me it only makes sense that they would directly resemble their creator. These are their divine forms of origin.
I know I actually liked the look for the alter forms
but...why doesn't giratina do that?
@@Robin_GlorbGiratina is kinda odd because it was originally banished by Arceus for being a dick head, so its held a huge grudge against Arceus and pretty much does its own thing. It’s based a lot on “fallen angels” as the distortion world seems to be like a representation of Hell and Giratina is a giant serpent. The last thing it’d want to do is resemble Arceus in any form.
In a way, horses are used in a lot of biblical scenarios like the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse for example and the horses they ride. Palkia losing arms but still having a centaur like build makes sense for the unconventional and out there design like how biblically accurate angels also have looks that feel out of place in the natural world.
@@Forged4War206Makes sense, and with biblical terms, serpents are usually portrayed with demons like the serpent that manipulated Adam and Eve to eat the fruit they were forbidden to eat from and even how during the end times, the demon is portrayed as a Dragon like beasts which are usually serpent like creatures. So the origin form being a wyrm/serpent makes sense.
All these poketubers going 'you threw the wrong ball' somehow missing that, the ball you threw wasn't to CATCH the legendary, you were sending out the other one to protect you (if you look really closely just as the explosion happens you can see it protecting you) that's why it's out after the dust settles, b/c you sent it out.
The presence of the creation trio having origin forms suggests Arceus has an altered form, seperate from its change with the multitype ability, and probably in the shape of a terrestrial being, since the creation trio are shaped like dragons in their altered forms
Maybe the form we know is the altered form and its origin form is unknowable?
well, I could be wrong, but from what I heard, these forms are a form of punishment from Arceus, like these 2 wanted to be him or like him too much, and he took Palkias arms so he cant use space rend, and put that big bulge on Dialgas throat so he cant use roar of time. At least that's what I heard a while ago.
In the battle against arceus it does say that this form is merely a representation
@@jonathanh3214It is said these are their original forms, but I headcanon them as Palkia and Dialga, in their insanity, twisted and contorted their bodies in a bid to look more like Arceus, and in the process Palkia cripples himself by ridding him of his arms, making Spacial Rend weaker, and Dialga cripples himself by making Roar of Time much more energy draining, making Roar of Time lose even more turns.
I love how the first reaction went from completely excited and happy to WTF WHY IS HE A HORSE WHERE DID HIS ARMS GO?!?!?! 😂😂😂
4:54 🤣🤣 “ *PALKIA’S ON ITS HANDS AND KNEES???!* Palkia never does that! *IT ATE THE BALL!!!????* “ 💀💀
You made me think of "The carbunkle ate itself"
_" _*_THE BUILDING!!!!!!!1!!1_*_ "_
@@J.Blazer”*DUDE WHAT IS DOING ON?*”
Incomprehensible gods, one taking the other's concept to heart when transforming into a beast.. I actually love the centaur design, and find the entire idea very neat.
If Palkia had arms like a centaur, I think I would have loved the design. Unfortunately... yeah, doesn't work for me.
Cool fight, though. Even better music.
@@Lucifronz People are obsessed with Palkia not having arms when I could easily see something like that being a JRPG boss. Some Pokemon fans are scared of non-conventional designs for ironically nonconventional Pokemon
@@aikram5408I agree, I love the way Origin Palmia looks. I just love how both took inspirations from Arceus
I appreciate you putting MandJTV's, Pokemen7's and Purplecliffe's reactions together :)
Same😄
They are both super super related
Palkia: "Who needs arms... WITH LEGS LIKE THESE!" (Cue Mettaton theme)
The origin forms have rings like Pokémon God.
Kinda odd that Origin Giratina has no ring... We could almost call it a "Halo" at this point, and that could really emphasize that Giratina, lacking one (either got it removed or never had one) is the symbolism of Giratina being the God of Hell.
@@Gazing-09 why did I never think of that!? Sorta like it’s halo was destroyed when it was banished to the distortion realm which would be like the fall of Lucifer, further connecting it to Satan or a ruler or god of hell in which case the distortion world is HELL. So in platinum Giratina dragged Cyrus into HELL like people say demons can do if you summon them.
Am I the only one who looks at Origin Palkia and thinks it's a centuar, not a horse? Also, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Diagla’s design based on a horse?
@@TheNamelessOne888 so I was somewhat correct, I’m actually glad they were based on kirins, I just learned about them so that’s cool!
Damn that’s actually really cool
Honestly it would have been better if he kept something akin to arms in its origin form...
@@TheNamelessOne888 Would have taken me a while to get the Kirin vibes, I mean I'm used to see Kirin being closer to deers with antlers and chimeric design... But that makes sense tho', I mean Arceus itself was based on the Lamb of God, and lambs are close enough to the Kirin...
I like the origin formes
Origin Palkia: MADE IN HEAVEN!
Origin Dialga: Something's stuck in my throat!
Pla was goated for not spoiling these on the box art I was so hyped and haven't felt that way for decades
palkia is defined as a ""god""
but, when it turns into origin
palkia now is defined as a *H O R S E*
*"H O N S E"*
biblically accurate Palkia
Am I the only one who sees biblically accurate palkia as a centaur.
I thinks it’s cute when they acknowledged that it was Spear Pillar and that they used Road of Time/Spacial Rend
It makes sense how Dialga and Palkia are in similar forms to Arceus, like how God created Humans in his image, Arceus made these two pokemon in his image.
A lot of people picked adaman which i can completely understand the dude is chill and fun to be around
Also because dialga is theoretically the stronger one, Dragon/Steel is a pretty powerful combination.
Dragon/water is actually a pretty good typing as well it only has two weaknesses
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 I think the main reason people like the steel dragon combo more is that it's essential a dragon type that doesn't have a single typical dragon type weakness.
Also in the Plakia vs Dialga match up Dialga has the type advantage for that exact reason.
People hated these designs, but i personally loved the way Origin Palkia and Dialga looked. They look like Aeceus, rhat was the whole point.
Reactions aside I did find it really cool that we got to see how Spear pillar became ruins. Also crazy they remained in that state all the way up to the events of Gen 4.
Oh my god it clicked with me what they are supposed to be. Incomprehensible forms of gods that we can’t wrap our minds around. I love that now
Honestly can’t wrap my head around the people saying Palkia needs his arms like.. that would look ridiculous on this design. Idk origin palkia is one of my favorite Pokémon designs ever he’s so regal and the scene of him looking down on you is so intimidating
No, it would look better with arms. I can't wrap my head around thinking this design looks good.
@@Lucifronz different opinions then man. For me seeing all the redraws and remodels with arms just look ridiculous and crammed in there. *I* can’t wrap my head around thinking this design looks bad, it’s just different perspectives.
The only thing im not a fan of in palkia's design is the front legs being so "organic", with the kneecaps and malleoluses bones looking like a real horse, without any darkish purple detail or decoration like the upper part of the body. But i also think it's cool af, and super regal
@@mikrokosmochi now that you mention it yeah the legs (and tails tbh) seem super plain color-wise compared to the rest of the body. More dark purple would’ve been super nice but ah well 😔
Honestly I guess I just understood now why they're designed like that: Dialga loses his throat to get the power needed to be like Arceus (no more throat means no more ROAR of Time) and Palkia loses his arms (no more Spacial REND). On the other hand, if Palkia and Dialga sacrifice something of themself, Origin Giratina's design underline that if you want a stronger Shadow Force, a move that let you sneak behind the target, you do not only need a world of yours, but you need to adapt to that move, and that's because Origin Giratina is based off Genesis' primordial sin snake
MandJTV was just like "Woah, WOAH. That explosion, it just destroyed- PALKIA, IT PROTECTED ME". Perfect MandJTV reaction
I really like the origin forms and i dislike people saying they copied Arceus. They look like how they do because Arceus made them....
Could they look better? Maybe, but im glad they still got something when Giratina's had one since 2009.
Indeed, they are not just a copy of Arceus, they are the creations of Arceus. That's why they look that way.
@@RoyArkon Together the rings around Palkia and Dialga make up the ring around Arceus. Dialga has the 4 points while Palkia's is rounded and they both together make Arceus' complete ring.
@@hunterhq295 Very good point
As a joke comment said
_bibically accurate Palkia and Dialga_
@Golden Pug Studios The only thing ugly here is your comment, and these are not fusions, these are alternative forms and they make perfect sense, and they both look awesome, especially Dialga. They are creations of Arceus, and therefore it makes perfect sense they will get forms like that. End of story.
They literally used metragross feet for origin dialga
Now I can't unsee that 💀
I realy don't like those feet, the poor Dialga can't walk because of those damb claws :(
@@ticholopeluchejust one stomp from those and he will stop time with one step
2:11 Giratina: I feel left out :(
The origin formes are Biblically accurate Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina
@Palkia wait how are there two of us
@@Countcomfortableif I had to guess, probably dialga had something to do with it, after all you are the past version of your normal form.
Not enough eyes
I just love Palkia's centaur design. It looks so majestic and genuinely threatening.
Why does it have shoulders when it doesn't have arms though?
@@wicked.a950Needed armor somewhere. It's supposed to look disturbing. It also covers the arm part.
Looks like it could be an elden ring boss
Everyone: It's a HORSE!
Kirin Fusion Of Dragon And Deer You Can Still Call Them Horses
6:52 Best reaction
Agreed
To everyone saying Palkia should’ve kept his arms, tell me where on arceus are his arms.
Arceus doesn't have an upper torso attached to its horse body like some sort of incomplete centaur. This wasn't even close to the checkmate you clearly thought this was.
@@Lucifronz why would Palkia grow extra legs/arms? It would only do so to be conventional for what is an already non-conventional design. It looks more Arceus-inspired than the abomination that is Origin Dialga
It’s interesting how their Origin Forms are so similar to one another and yet so different from Giratina.
Though, I feel like there were more Palkia there than Dialga in this, though i could be wrong.
I guess people are just used to the regular forms, this was my first Pokémon game so I really like the origin forms.
Yeah they will just get used to them, although they do look excellent.
Lets be real palkia origine form is ugly
Dialga always looked cooler and this form is a horse there is no way anyone thinks it's better than regular Palkia
@@Seraph_op I mean
1: I didn’t say original Dialga didn’t look cooler, i just don’t hate these designs.
And
2: Arceus is a Horse…
@@captainnomekop5056 ehhh Rapidash is a horse but with some imagination sure...
I don't hate the designs either but to me they are objectively worse. They could look cooler than the originals but you would have to change a few things. Dialga looks like it has something stuck in his throat so remove that or make it smaller, the front legs look silly make them slim like his back pair.
Palkia though oof where do I start. Those hooves look stupid so make his legs bigger, give him an extra pair of arms or remove those shoulder pads because it makes him look like he has no arms. Actually five him a lance that would look sick af and maybe make the wings bigger or give them a different shape like they did with his tail.
Seeing it all in front of me, I see how Origin Dialga and Palkia's rings combine into Arceus'.
I love how most of the reaction are asking where's is palkia's arms or it's a horse!
For whatever reason, I never wondered where its arms went. I guess in my mind, its arms became legs. I dunno, I was just in awe... I managed to go in completely blind and the origin formes caught me off-guard.
Palkia reactions: “Where are your arms!!!”
Me: He has a new pair of legs 🤦♂️
The front legs are the arms, doy…
Theory, the reason why the origine formes are so demented, is cuz the opposing legendary interupts the entire transformation with their attacks in the cut scenes
Well that's interesting headcanon, I suppose. Kinda works.
I love how there is an equal split on whether Palkia/Dialga Origin forms are either a punishment or them becoming closer to Arceus.
In my opinion, it feels like both. They managed to attain the power that their creator holds but at the cost of their original purpose. Palkia rending space with its claws while Dialga allowed time to flow through it's breath.
In Origin form, the former lost those important arms and the latter has its neck choked by a blinding.
What's more interesting is the jewel, Lustrous and Adament, are gone. Only faded markings of the items that represent their previous forms
Honestly really like the New forms, they look like something out of the bible, especially palkia. Also the fact that the creation trio's origin forms combined make a arceus look-a-like is cool as shit
I like that too. It really makes me think of dialga and palkia as Angels not gods.
Honestly after all this time I can finally say, I do actually like Palkia’s origin form
Oh boy... while I've always preferred Dialga's design over Palkia's, here is the opposite.
Moreover, I can now relate Origin Palkia to the god "Poseidon" (God of sea, storms, earthquakes, and HORSES) So the design is fitting imo.
Yo, thanks for this compilation!
i wander why people never imagined Palkia and Dialga's origin form before Lengends Arceus
I get the feeling that people who dislike the designs cant read
Palkia: goes horse mode
Dialga: looking like a Final Fantasy boss
Dialgas the better of the 2 tbh
I like how so many struggle to grasp the concept that the arms simply became legs. What? Did they expect Palkia to have 8 limbs all of a sudden?
True, and also it would look overcomplicated design wise
It's probably because it kept it's shoulders. If the centaur body was just a long neck, I dont think the reaction you be as strong
@@dedriansanchez8409 it's 100% the shoulders at least for me. As it is, it looks like a centaur without arms. If it didn't have the shoulders it would just be a horse, or a giraffe if the neck is so long.
Cool that mandjtv purplecliffe and pm7 got a spot on here
Thanks for pointing at them in the thumbnail. Almost missed them!
dialga honestly looks like squidward with a fork stuff in his throat lmao
The thing on its neck I think is supposed to represent a part of a clock I think
I really hoped someone would match AlphaRads energy but no reaction got even close to them.^^ But it was still fun to see how others reacted.
“WHY’S HE A HORSE” 💀💀💀 Good question, Alpharad
it’s like that one shirt said
“Whoever said diamonds are a girl’s best friend HORSE”
16:35 Hey Vsauce, Micheal here...
I'll see myself out now lol
I'm glad that the confusion and general distaste for the Origin Forms matches my own reaction. Lmao
0:54
Palkia is just horsing around.
I find it interesting that the origin forms kind of resemble Arceus. After all, they kinda were fake gods for the Pearl and Diamond clan
Ayo u got our boi ttar in here😂
This compilation kinda helps me realize how hype it was to have new forms of Dialga and Palkia
if, for some reason, legends kyurem doesn't give us the original dragon, i hope they give reshiram and zekrom forms too
My reaction to Palkia:HE JUST MUTATED INTO A HORSE,SPACE RADIATION GONE HARD ON HIM
U don't have to done him like that 💀
I actually like both their origin- form designs over their normal designs. I find them to be a huge improvement. While their original forms did make them feel like legendary pokemon, they always seemed less aesthetically pleasing than the other legendary pokemon that they were associated with. In their origin forms not only do they look like legendary pokemon, but they also look very ethereal.
I think only two of them noticed that the Temple was Spear Pillar when the Temple exploded
Alpharad's reaction will never not be the best
Surprisingly most of them don't even have a surprised reaction. But the ones who do, do be having *the* surprised reaction.
Alpharad’s reaction to palkia and giratina were perfect
ORIGIN PALKIA IS A BOOTYFUL PONY
Origin Palkia's design actually grew on me quite a bit. Only thing that still irks me is its lack of arms, which I get! It went from bipedal to quadrupedal-those front two legs had to come from somewhere-I just wish they would have made it look more seamless. Because it looks way too much like it's supposed to have arms, and instead an armless torso has just been stitched to the body of a horse, lol. Beyond the arm thing, I really do like Palkia's origin design. I love how majestic the whole pegasus/centaur vibe is. That's how I see it, anyway. Oh, oh, and I love the little detail of Palkia shaking its head and snorting like an angry horse during its cutscene, lol.
I wish it didn’t cut away so quickly. all we get out of these reactions is “WOAH! WHAT?” and then it’s the next clip. I wanna hear more of what they have to say about it
And then Palkia turned into a horse. Funniest shit I've ever seen.
“Oh now palkia is-WHAT THE FOCK!?
The mix of awe and confusion is great. Especially with Palkia, bro lost his arms xD
It turned its arms into front legs.
I like how most of them captured their legendary in a Ultra ball meanwhile Hoodlum & Ttar tube caught theirs in a regular Pokéball. But I mean legendaries since Gen4 have been easier to catch with higher rates, so it's not insane to believe that they did that. If I missed some1 else who also managed to do this then lmk.
You should've kept the reaction to the music too tho because I'm pretty sure NO ONE expected eurobeat
Yeah, this reaction cuts way too short. Have to show the first half-a-minute of combat at most for the music reaction. It's the best part.
When I first see Palkia origin form I honestly doesn't quite fond with it too because just like them I was like
*wtf what they done to my boy???*
I used to play a rid of pokémon game called Petown and Palkia was my ace pokémon there so I grow in love with him. Now that I seen the form again I guess it not like all that bad tho
I think those forms are so beautiful ngl
These forms make so much more sense givin the leaks about the creation of palki and dialga these are there forms before arceus reforms them
Okay rare take but I actually really like Palkia's origin form
I love how that is how the temple was destroyed in pokemon daimond and pearl
I see. The origin figures were so terrifying they might not notice the music.
I know it has four legs, but Palkia makes me think of that half-horse-half-centaur
I like how so many people chose the ninja outfit and also Dialga rather than Palkia
Legends really changed the game
Awesome comp
09:54 did I..just... set off a nuclear bomb?!....
10:16 kid...
10:21 Huh?!!!!
10:25 What ?! ARE U?!!!!!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hate that everyone approves of fucking chicken bone stuck in throat Dialga
I almost feel like Arceus was being summoned through them and we stopped the transfer mid-summon, and now it's half arceus and half summoner.
I love Palkia's origin design but Dialga is hard to swallow. No pun intended
Palkia became pegasus overnight 😂😂😂
the last guy saying is that the moddest version got me.
I love both origin forms, I prefer origin palkia fight me
I consider you my ally for the fight.
I agree, the ss looked horrible but as someone who loved dialga more than palkia, palkia orgin forme is sooo much better. It’s like elderitch
I've always liked Dialga over Palkia, no matter which forms they took. But that means nothing aside from that we enjoy Pokémon all the same
Y’all got shit taste
MFW Palkia becomes a pink horse with plateau high heels
First dude sounds like the Star Ward Reddit guy that cried over the Star Wars trailer
8:55
Its funny how he don't know
Besides flash cannon is a proyectile 😂😂
I love these forms so much!