A-10 Warthog Squadron vs WWII IJN Battleship Yamato (WarGames 128) | DCS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- We simulate an anti-ship strike using A-10 Thunderbolt II jets against a World War 2 Japanese Battleship Yamato flotilla with Destroyer support. We look at the difference using stand-off weapons, then direct fire weapons.
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0:00 Intro
0:11 Scenario Details
2:34 Attempt 1 (Stand-Off Weapons) Take Off
9:02 Attempt 1 (Stand-Off Weapons) Weapons Prep
14:17 Attempt 1 (Stand-Off Weapons) Attack
27:27 Attempt 2 (Un-guided Weapons) Take Off
32:56 Attempt 2 (Un-guided Weapons) Attack
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I understand it is a flight sim game, but damn dude, cool your jets! It is a game, after all, not a real combat situation.
'Captain' could be a bit less pissy at the players tbh. Sounds like the Cartman of Hammersmith
Yes I know he is soooo whiney....
Who pissed in Cap's cornflakes this morning?
Someone at my friend's former AF base screwed up. They were supposed to order a part for an A-10 wing, but they screwed up the form and their commander didn't notice. They ended up ordering a whole wing.
Since the commander had missed it too, apparently the person avoided getting disciplined. Fortunately, they had storage space to spare and it turns out, over time, they actually ended up saving money because they were able to cannibalize the wing for individual components and that was cheaper than if they'd had to buy all the parts separately.
That actually sounds smarter in hindsight
Knew a guy who did something similar, he was ordinary a part for the wrecker, and ended up ordering a whole wrecker conversion kit for a 7-ton.
I read a story from a German army medic who ordered a battle ready Leopard 2 to his hospital
@@Vostok7789 i heard about that one too lol.
My scoutmaster was assigned to the Aleutian Islands in WW2. They ordered two jeeps and a truck, and every month they got in two jeeps and a torpedo carrier The order just kept getting filled and after a while everyone had their own Jeep in his unit (he was in a bomb disposal unit)
Cap: "Everything is getting in the way of my T-pod" While running with the T-pod on the right, and target on the left.....
😂
idiot@work 🤣
"I wish I had some humans who would do what I told them to, stupid A.I."
"How many times did I say not to fire?!"
ai: input not recognized. continuing firing target until further instructions
He loves talking down to people I wonder if if talks that way in real life? If he did that in America I sure hope his dental insurance is paid up we wouldn’t put up with that arrogant behavior
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The ships did have wooden decks, and no they weren't thrown off. But it was wood panelling on top of an armoured deck. On some ships like the KGVs that armour underneath was upto 4 inches thick, and there could be 4 layers of armouring before getting to the machine spaces down below. So a weapon would have to get through 1.5" of wood, 4" of armour, and another 3 layers of 1-2" armour to get into juicy areas.
@@drewsmith8829 well, in ye olde days they dropped the life boats off the ship so they couldn't fly around as splinters and collected them afterwards, if they still could.
Addmittedly that predates World War 2 by a century or two. .
Yeah it made a good insulation for the heat in the pacific
@@drewsmith8829he sounds like a pedantic dick, not unreasonable to take what he says at face value
That did seem like a dopey thing to say.
The wood wasn't structural, there was metal underneath. But the actual armour deck was one or two levels lower for stability reasons.
I don't need to hear a pilot being scolded.
Yeah, first time watching his content and I don't think I want to see any more. Dick doesn't know how to fly the plane, how different things work, asks people for help and then talks to them like they're pieces of shit because they're not perfect
1989 as we were traveling on the highway southeast of Tucson, Arizona the A-10s would rip across us and then climb straight up and turn back into us doing scissors. This went on for 15 minutes. I'm honored being used as a target for the A-10 Warthog
There's an A10 squadron up in Fort Wayne. I love watching them do practice runs on the town I live near.
Traffic laws are aircraft enforced
That's awesome! If traffic allowed, you should have done some drastic evasive maneuvers and messed with the pilots.
I've seen them doing touch and go's or something at the AFB near Boise, they sound awesome.
@@jamespike5161
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That's the best comment I've seen today!
"No one has authorization to fire unless I say so." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 someone likes authority.
No shit... wouldn't it be funny if everyone just told him to STFU.... while playing the game..... imagine how loud he would whine😢😢😢😢😅😅😅😅😅😅
I started with A10C too, forgiving, slower flight model and great for CAS which I enjoy. Everyone loves a group A10 mission 🙂
I worked with a former Air Force mechanic who worked on A-10's .The front of the planes would get dented due to having trouble refueling in the air .
Can Violet just have her own GD channel for the A10 shows? Really wondering about the A10 competence of Cap't in this one.
Or better yet, just no troons in general.
The Yamato had problems with air defense due to "special type" AA shells that were ineffective, fire control directors that were very limited, and a lack of effective training due to long periods in harbor. When the USN attacked, the torpedo bombers deliberately tried to hit one side only to cause listing, which would compromise the AA guns ability to engage, and hopefully roll her over and capsize her. Several good books on the subject.
The special AA shells where some kind of new incendiary air burst round. I want to call it LOTUS but probably wrong. Saw some reference to this in a recent Yamato WW2 movie that came out recently. Sometimes good ideas don't always work out.
Also their 25mm was just terrible
Even today some weebs think those beehive shells could _TakE oUt A nintirE SCADRen witH ON shoT INNiT._ Odd, because there's no record of them actually hitting anything, at least in the air. I believe they were used against Henderson Field once, hitting some parked planes and starting fires.
The Japanese 25mm AA gun was considered to be the worst AA gun of the war.
The efforts to cause listing were successful.
So much so that in desperation the call was made to intentionally flood 2 major sections on the opposite side of the ship to "right" her.
The orders were issued WITHOUT evacuating the crews, who were all drowned by their own commanders.
I knew a fellow who flew A-10's for the ANG and one day after we chatted about them he brought in his helmet for me to see. The visor was gone and a large diagonal slash of scratches across the right side where the cable he'd just run into had slid up the nose and hit him while stripping the canopy and about 6 feet of the right wingtip. He landed the plane and had a nice scrapbook of pics from surviving it. Very good man!
Cap sounded a little grumpy today!😅
Yeah- i feel bad for them.
While yes being annoyed after saying something multiple times is semi-justified the ability to still be polite in saying no also is kinda nice.
Anyways. Cap & co. if you read this. Thank you very much for the content still. Aways good to watch such a strange but functional concept.
@@Screamblade_ it's ok. i was made aware of the lack of dis-a-pwen showed. The firing squad has been formed up and failures will not be accepted.
@@simba1113 Heyyy noooo. Nononoono. No killing.
Gotta make them sit in the A10 get them to fly a couple.... several many... km at stall speed. Sit in the comfort of their chairs reminiscing about how enjoyable there week or month maybe has been.
Keep it simple and calm outside of a constant stall warning haha....
sorry- i shouldn't give you ideas
@@simba1113 I commend your commitment to the disciplinary procedure sir. Carry on!
I don’t know what but every time Cap looks for a control I’m reminded of Londo Mollari saying, “Landing thrusters. Landing thrusters. Where would they put landing thrusters?” Or words to that effect!
Babylon 5 best 5?
@@exidy-yt
Bloody incredible show!
@@waynesworldofsci-tech Agreed 100%. I hope the upcoming re-imagining is as good as Battlestar Galactica's was. With JMS involved, it should be!
Violet reminds me of a quote from _GATTACA_
"You wanna know how I did it? This is how I did it Anton. I never saved anything for the swim back."
I love how the A-10's have the livery of the 104th TFS of the Maryland Air National Guard. They are based 5 miles away as a crow flies from where I live.
With your TGP on the right, you should orbit the target clockwise to maintain a good view. Also, when the TGP says "INR-P" and "L M", that means it doesn't have a clear view for point tracking and your laser is blocked.
A 2k bomb is a very devastating weapon. Even the non penetrating version would cause a great deal of damage.
A ton of RDX does tend to....rearrange the furniture a bit, doesn't it!
While 1 ton bombs are devastating weapons, without an armour piercing tip they wouldnt do anything to a battleship.
Ya think! Your darn tootin partner! OUUUUUUCCCHHH is the word for today classmates, DOUBLE OOOOOUUUUUUCCHHHHA ROOOONIES IS DEFINITELY IN ORDER FOLKS
A 2000Ib bomb only has around 1200Ib of high explosive in it - the rest is the casing.
Unless they have hardened noses then the max it would penetrate is about 6" of steel - it would punch through many deck plates, but detonate on impact so the damage, whilst extensive, would be localised, unless it hit something critical, such as a magazine hoist and caused a secondary detonation of the ships explosive stores - as we know happened to the Heavy Cruiser HMS Hood and several other vessels during both WWI and WWII.
@@jim.franklin - true. But ships aren't as heavily armored as they used to be, relying more on active defensive weapon systems than passive armor.
But even WW2 battleships who's armor was measured in feet along the sides of the hull, had rather thin armored decks, which is where aircraft delivered bombs would impact. Some didn't have any armor, just a wooden deck above 3/4" structural sub-deck plates, resistant to .50 cal machine gun fire but little else.
A 2,000 lb bomb detonating on the thinly armored deck of a large vessel would do immense damage, possibly even crippling or sinking it. An armor piercing bomb that penetrated in to perhaps the 3rd or 4th deck before detonation absolutely would incapacitate or sink a large vessel.
1,200 lbs of explosives contained within the lower decks of a battleship would devastate a huge section of the vessel. Even much smaller bombs with a far lesser yield of explosives when detonated deep in the bowels of a vessel can create far more destruction than its yield would suggest.
Look at the USS Arizona during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 7 Dec, 1941.
It's believed that a single 200 lb bomb dropped from 3,000 ft penetrated deep into the 3rd deck and upon detonation also set off atleast one of the forward main gun magazines and blew the entire forward deck from midship forward about 30' to 40' up!
That bomb was assisted by the powder magazine believed to have contained about 4,000 lbs of chordite plus any of the main guns 16" projectiles that would also have detonated.
But even without the added yield of a ships magazine, a modern 2,000 lb JDAM that penetrated deep into a ships bowels could cause similar damage.
Cap. I have a very important point to make. When the video is this entertaining (the second run in particular), I propose you extend the time and do more than one run. Please, do this one again. You can even mix it up a bit with the loadouts. I'd love to see three or four planes dropping cluster bombs on multiuple successive runs and then another whole group of planes all launching rocket barrages. The AAA fire and huge ordinance loadout from the A-10s combined with the 30mm guns was just glorious. More please x 100.
Not worth spending any more time on this until dmg models are fixed. Most of those bombs were not being registered.
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The weak vulnerable places on all battleships are the magazines under the main guns
and the boilers under the stacks
Repeated hits forward and aft and down the stacks with guided 1000 lbs bombs and she is toast
Idiots at work.
I think the thing to recall is that the Iowa Class ships used against Yamato in reality fired 16" guns whose shell weighed in at 2100Ib (950kg) and so they were similar mass to the modern laser guided bombs on the A10's you used - Yamato took about 80 of these hits, as well as others, before being sunk - The British fired 2876 shells at Bismark, estimates are that between 300 & 400 shells hit it with an estimate of 130-170 16" shells, the British AP 16" weighed around 2350Ib (1050kg) as well as torpedoes and a mixture of smaller shells. These behemoths were a lot hardier and took far more damage than I think most people realise. I would estimate that even with laser/GPS guided 1000kg weapons and even modern anti-ship missiles, these ships would be very hard to actually sink. It would make far more sense to deliberatly target the main batteries and the side smaller guns - if she cannot fight then she is just a hunk fo steel.
Iowa class 16" guns was designed and used the heavier mk8 2700lb AP shell.
So a bit more auch than the smaller in weight 16" mk5 2240lb shells.
That the treaty era battleships used.
@@kimleechristensen2679 The MK8's AP's were introduced after WWII and the US battleships only used the lower mass shells until around August 1945
The Yamato didn't take any 16" shell hits. It was sunk exclusively by aircraft- 11 torpedo hits and 6 bombs.
@@geoffreywarburton5487I did not say the Yamato was sunk by shell fire, I simply said it took about 80 hits before being sunk. Yes, aircraft finished sunk it, but a surface action in Leyte gulf (the only one of the ship's life) saw it engage US surface vessels - it hit several of them and would likely have done more damage had not the Japanese been convinced the light carrier fleet they encountered was part of a larger fleet, so they withdrew.
@@jim.franklin USS Gambier Bay reportedly took several 18in shell hits which passed right through and was doing alright ...until a 18in or 16in shell found her magazine and she blew up quite spectacularly.
Battleships did have wooden decks, lots of them were armored beneath but they used treated teak wood, highly valued for its tough and weather/rot resistant characteristics.
Before steel they would back iron with loads (up to 2 feet) of wood to absorb damage.
Old Ironsides ironically was made from Michigan rock maple and live oak that was hard enough to bounce cannonballs of the time.
When the USS Constitution was rebuilt about 30 years ago a hurricane hit Georgia and the Carolines and blew over hundreds of live oaks. The Navy bought up a bunch of the trees because they needed the specific shapes to rebuild the ships. It was really neat!
I’m a naval history nut. Historically the Yamato had fire control radar for the main guns. I’d have to check if it had radar for air targets.
The USN and British had a variety of radar systems for use against aircraft on their capital ships. The US 5-38 was a great system, if a bit short ranged compared to the British 5.25 which did amazing damage to Japanese planes at ranges that stunned the Japanese.
I’d love to see this run against a late war King George V class and also against a US fast battleship (not much difference in AA capabilities among the US capital ships, the US had a system they liked, and worked).
The German capital ships had radar, but poor AA weapons.
The Italians had a beautiful AA system in design when they surrendered, and were working on getting radar, but had no radar or decent AA at time of surrender, a 1944 or 1945 Littorio would have been reasonably competitive in medium range, but poor at long range.
We’ll never really know what the French could have developed, they were out of the war too soon.
Soviet capital ships had terrible AA throughout the war, and no radar.
The Dutch were planning on building ‘Battle Cruisers’ but were out of the war too soon.
Spain had terrible AA on their capital ship because of a lack of funds for upgrades, the country was recovering from a nasty civil war.
The three South American capital ship owners, Argentina, Brazil, and Chile did little to no upgrades to AA fit during the war. Brazil did manage to get their battleships moving, and joined the Allies, but the Allies politely declined the offer of Brazilian battleships.
The Greeks were out of the war too fast, and their two capital ships were absolute bloody antiques, weaker than the old pre-dreadnoughts the Germans kept in service out of necessity.
That's some very interesting background info, thank you!
The first two 1000 lb bomb hits in the first wave of SB2C Helldivers knocked out Yamato gun directors.
@@dpwellman
Gun directors go down fast in battle.
But whether it had AA radar would impact on how soon the director gets damaged. You end up with absolutely insane amounts of damage being taken by a ship like USS Johnson and the radar working nearly to the end, while Bismarck took out its forward radar just by firing its own main guns.
Should be noted that the Yamato was among the only Japanese ships with fire-control radar, and it was markedly inferior to what every American destroyer had.
@@dylandarnell3657
And inferior to what the British had as far back as Cape Matapan. Look up Drachinifel’s video titled +1 for Warship Stealth.
Scenario: Desslock steals the Space Battleship Yamato and goes back in time to the present day. A-10s had to engage due to a coin challenge.
Haha, glad I wasn't the only one trying to think of how to work Uchuu Senkan Yamato/Star Blazers into this scenario somehow!
It's all fun and games until the Yamato sprouts wings and goes airborne.
The A-10 isn’t for beginners, but it was for me! I started with it, and love it. It is very difficult to get the muscle memory for target acquisition and mark points.
Why do they make these jets weapons system so complex you think today they could make it easy as Apple iPad interface
@@notmyself2533 That's pretty much how the F-35 is from what I understand.
@@notmyself25331: because the systems are a lot more complex and capable than your phone
2: because they’re not actually that complex, you’re just not used to it. Spend as much time you’ve had with your phone with one of these jets in DCS, and you’ll do pretty well
@@sturmgeschutze3070 your telling me you can’t put weapons systems on a touch screens and rest be physical controls
@@sturmgeschutze3070 muscle memory but why make it complex why not try to dumb down controls for quick training could give advantage. Like in Ukraine
Senerio, a reverse Final Countdown. The Yamato battle group passes through a temporal anomaly, and the command crew cannot be convinced that the war is over.
And the cruiser screen?
They would die immediately if they did anything hostile, modern torpedoes and anti-ship missiles would be devastating.
SCENARIO: A TH-camr opens a bottle and out pops a genie. Instead of discussing the TH-camr's wish, they both talk about naval and air technologies for several hours. Eventually, the genie says, "I'll grant your wish to see how Warthogs would do if sent back in time to attack the Yamato" and then vanishes in a puff. The TH-camr stares blankly for a while.
Still better than the plot to Star Trek (2009) and it has fewer lens flares.
Ok, just gonna ask as my small brain ain’t comprehending, how does Star Trek fit into this? Just wondering really. Also I kind of agree that the plot was meh, but what can you do. It’s a reboot with something pretty new (or was since that was a while ago)
Aim your laser guided bombs down the smoke stack. That will get you past all the deck armor possibly take out one or more of the boilers.
This was the first aircraft I flew in DCS. Quite a learning curve
Yes, while there is a bit of a learning curve, the hog is so much fun to fly
How can anyone not love the Warthog? Who couldn't be satisfied flying what is basically a BLOODY GREAT GUN with some wings and engines strapped to it?
That was brilliant. The second run was bloody funny. The AAA was like Thor's hammer!
Cap, I'd love to see some "What if?" scenarios whereby you modify portions of the existing airframes with code to simulate continued development. Like, for instance, " What if they gave the A10C more powerful engines/afterburners?". I used to play with some game's settings and hidden files back in the day, and the feeling of my Lamborghini Countach in NFS going 300 mph was funny as hell.
Love the idea :)
Seconded. Additionally, always wondered how/if F-5 J85 engines could be pod mounted and run in place of fuel tanks, underwing.
When you ask for an A-10 with afterburners, you get THIS: th-cam.com/video/vMofNBi1szk/w-d-xo.html
Yamato took 15 or so combined hits from armor piercing bombs (1000lbs) and Mk 13 torpedoes (600lb each) as well as various 5 in rockets and 20mm cannon over the course of two hours before being rendered combat ineffective.
One of the toughest ships ever built.
And that nothing compared to her sister Musashi
@@VirgoShelter that's because they attacked the Musashi from all sides helping her counter flood and keeping her afloat. After learning their mistakes, the US focused on one side of the Yamato making her roll with only a fraction of successful hits.
Ryan semanski (CUREATOR BATTLESHIP NJ )will tell you 2 loaded out F18S WOULD SINK ANY OF THEM IN MINUTES A few 1000 LB JDAMS is all you need
@@joecolabelli4339 There's a guy that loves his job a little too much?
Scenario could kind of come from “Hunt for Red October”. Where the A-10’s buzz a Kiznetsov. Cap, could you go through some of the Tom Clancy books and enact them?
Came here to mention the same scene. Agree with your request on the Clancy books.
Love seeing that Maryland flag on the hog. Thank you Violet
Ukraine's using some ole World War I machine gun called Maxim Gun..Interesting....
Well humans haven't evolved a resistance to bullets over the past 100 years, so why not! A maxim will fire forever.
I guess if you are in the front arc of it you would not care what kind of gun is shooting at you. They are heavy and hard to move but if you get hit the bullet is just as effective. Some of the watercooled guns might be more effective than newer guns due to better cooling/less overheating. Also just think about when the American m2 was designed (1918)! More modern machine guns are mostly designed to increase their mobility in a defensive scenario that’s probably not as important.
Still good for relatively close quarters defence. The use of them in trenches is idiotic in my opinion though
Americans using 1920s era M2s interesting.
The Maxim was called “the devils paintbrush” in WWI
This is my favorite and first plane I learned how to fly in DCS, and I think it was a great plane to learn in. Great mix of classic analogue and modern digital systems. Classic knob dialed radios, tacan and ILS will be instantly recognizable from the A-10 once you enter the F-14, and the whole SOI-HOTAS interface will prep you for the F-16.
Ive decided to take the plunge and purchase a Hotas Warthog ,NOT CHEAP! .I am retiring this year and need a hobby, Have played DCS off and on, but with a very affordable joystick, I love you nerds! I guess that make me on two! Hope to see you in the air soon.
Fun Fact: IJN Yamato never fired its 18.1 Inch main battery guns in anger at another vessel before she was sunk!
This looked like a really fun mission.
By the end of WW2 Allied seaborne AAW gun systems would have performed quite well against A10.
AA guns on most ships by that time were Radar assisted, guns hydraulically driven. They would stand a somewhat fair chance at actually damaging an A-10.
Always fun watching you're videos, keep up the great work!
The Final Countdown - a movie from late 70’s where a modern aircraft carrier goes back in time to WWII. Best part, 2 F14 Tomcats fight 2 Japanese Zeros.
Ward Carrol told a few things about the movie. Apparently, they came close to losing a few F-14s due to trying to fly too slow and stalling.
As best I can tell, you just love to hear yourself talk. It's what you're good at.
The A-10 Warthog is a ground troup support aircraft, period.
*****/SCENARIO: the Alamo being defended by only A-10s*****
"They're glide bombing."
"Amateurs."
something of note to Yamato's resilience it took 12 bombs (most were likely 900kg bombs off of Helldivers) and 7 torpedo hits before her flooding was deemed unrecoverable and she ultimately exploded
Is it me or did cap seem so stuck up today not be be rude but it’s true
Very rude today it's a game. Cap
Onbbb
I wouldn't say stuck up. More like a tyrant
YEP, wanting to be the center of attraction while making everyone else sit back, you are right friend 👍
Who agreed that this guy was in charge.... what would happen if someone challenged him and told him to be quiet 🤫 and took over. It's apparent he's not the most knowledgeable he always asks for help with his controls.
I think you underestimate how unbelievably powerful the shaped charges on post-ww2 anti-tank weapons are. Even a tiny RPG-7's PG-7VL rocket can penetrate up to HALF A METER of steel, meaning they would be able to penetrate even the thickest turret armor on a Yamato class ship with ease, let alone an AGM-65 Maverick. Now the effect of punching a golf ball sized hole through that armor is debatable, but it would likely kill any crew that were nearby where it entered.
Depending on what they hit. A burning ring of molten fire in the ammunition storage would do the whole job for them.
Plus you hit enough to cause uncontrollable water intrusion and your going to sink it also.
Those 30mm shells will also slice through a lot! They would definitely go in and cause some crazy damage to things like power and communications. Hitting the tower with a bomb or 2 would take out most of the ships fighting ability. Even if it doesn’t sink right away, a ship that’s Swiss cheese and just floating dead in the water is just as worthless as a ship sunk.
Yea, HMS Hood can attest to the effectiveness of penetrating shots. That first bomb directly impacted the superstructure and would likely have killed the entire command staff, she would keep fighting but ineffectively. I wonder if a bunker buster could break her back. Could always drop a Moab on her which would kill every single crewman on deck.
The 30mm on the a10 had trouble penetraring the 40mm side armour on an M60. It wouldnt do ahit to Yamato.
Likewise, while heat warheads would probably penetrate the main belt, it would diffuse well before it hit any vital system.
There was a reason the soviets threw around 840kg 1.5m diameter HEAT warheads against carriers, and it because the sheer bulk of warships render them immune to small scale ordenance, whatever penetration numbers they may have.
@@egoalter1276 The 30mm gun on the A10 uses kinetic penetrating armor piercing rounds which are way inferior to shaped charge (HEAT/HEDP) munitions. The only reason they are used is because it's difficult to make effective shaped charge munitions for calibers that small. The weak 30mm gun on the A10 isn't even useful except as a last resort. Unguided rocket pods are ware more powerful than the 30mm gun.
@@rubiconnn You are right about the A10, less os about HEAT. The penetrative pover of explosively formed penetrators is directly proportional to the diameter of the explosive funnel within the warhead, and starts hetting useful at around 6-8cm diameter, making smaller ones isnt difficult, but it doesnt make sense, when the bullet itself likely has more penetrative pover than an EFP of that diameter would.
Violet saving the day! Fun mission!
Very excited for the battleship videos.
Top shelf stuff.
The 18 inch armor on the Yamato and her sister ship was too thick to weld, therefore the side armor was riveted. This made the armor very fragile as the rivets were far weaker than the armor itself.
This is from articles written by the salvage teams that have found her and her sister ships.
No
Yamato's 18.1" had a beehive AA shell, containing several thousand slug size pellets. But she had nowhere near the radar and targeting systems to get any real effect from them. Japanese radar was generations behind the British.
They will probably give the pilots a second thought if they go off near your aircraft and might make you get off your attack vector
Lucky hit perhaps
To be fair though. If I saw 9 18.1 inch guns able to kill the most heavily armoured vehicles in the world fire at me with a rather good degree of accuracy I would probably decide this was no longer worth it because dear god that just has to clip me and it is ripping something important off
Also Americans our battleships were much more effective cause of our superior targeting systems
@@Utubesuperstar The US did not have a AA shell for the main guns. And shared the same sensors as the UK, although the later UK fire control computer was likely more effective during WW2.
Oooh! Lookit Violet being the 'big brain'. We should start a petition to Bring Back 💜Violet💜 !!!
The 5 inch guns were hitting because the A10's were coming straight in from too far. So there was plenty of time to get a solution that didn't change.
What a fun video 😊. More please !!!
Violet rocks
"yeah viewers, this is a lot harder than it looks" Only because DCS appears to be using modern CIWS characteristics instead of WWII IJN systems.
I wasn't aware that the A10 could actually be shot down....
Neat...
500lb bombs would struggle to penetrate the armoured deck. Would make a mess of the superstructure and exposed gun crew though.
Another fun one to watch.
I started with A10C too, forgiving, slower flight model and great for CAS which I enjoy. Everyone loves a group A10 mission
A certain "flower" got wilted!
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@@RainbowDash-vy2dn violets are flowers right?
lol!
@@justinmurphy2227 yeah, but how did she wilt? Lol
Violet ROCKS. Capt needed a nanny but wan't very nice. It's almost like he was annoyed. You should never nerf an A-10. The cannon is the plane.
only brats had nannies. so makes sense if you ask me. if cap had a nanny he would be a brat hahahahaha.
Tom Clancy has a squadron of A-10’s destroy the Lenin battleship in The book Red Storm Rising.
Excellent show!
Loved the video @Grim Reapers! Can't wait for the next video man! Timeframe 37:10 The A-10's are seen as Marked for the Maryland Air National Guard (Tail Markings include the Maryland State Flag over the State Initials of "MD").
Too bad that the Models still need to be worked on but otherwise a Really great video guys! Would love to see More of the World War Two Asset Pack on DCS come into play so that the Different units can have as much Airtime as possible.
Well they needed something to do after harassing the Soviet Northern Fleet in Hunt for Red October
Nice! I served in the MD ANG for 6 years! Love the A-10. Always proud to serve with those pilots and planes.
Looks like the Grim Reapers lost more planes than the US Navy did in the real attack! 😂 The AA fire is so unrealistic
Not so sure its unrealistic. They were flying low and slow and all the BBs from that era had A LOT of AAA. If you throw up a wall of lead, it’s going to hit something
@@lohrtom US and UK BBs had much more effective AA suites than Japanese capital ships. Radar controlled with proximity fuses on the dual purpose guns. The Bofors 40mm was much better than the notoriously ineffective manually aimed 25mm. The US Navy lost 10 aircraft sinking Yamato out of an attacking force of around 400 and some of those were lost when the magazine exploded.
So, the battleship North Carolina is a museum in Wilmington North Carolina. About 75 miles south, is the former Air Force Base in Myrtle Beach, SC, where A-10s were based until the early 1990s. Let's say a group of environmental terrorists take control of the battleship and set out to attack the offshore oil platforms...
You must intercept the ship before it causes the greatest environmental disaster in history!
The ship is sitting on the bottom enclosed by caissons!
The east end of the AFB is a rather nice DG course now as well.
Grumpy Cap! love it.
Clearly it a reverse time warp, and the Yamato went all Philadelphia Experiment and the Imperial Japanese battleship suddenly appeared near Guam at some point and the best thing the US had was scramble ready A-10s.
Cap, don't you dare be rude to Violet!
If you look at the USS Franklin or other ships damaged during WW2 these bombs accurately impacting the top deck would be devastating. Battleships although they look impressive just did not live up to the hype.
I would think at a certain point, even if you don't sink the thing, it becomes a mission kill anyway. With the fire control all shot to hell, you basically take any gunnery capabilities back to the turn of the 20th century. Also, human bodies don't deal with shockwaves particularly well. Ergo, you may have a lot of armor around you, but if your crew are thrown into bulkheads by the shockwave and suffer traumatic injuries, maybe they aren't dead, but good luck getting them to fulfill their normal duties, or even damage control duties with broken limbs, potential head injuries, etc etc. And that is even before mentioning the inevitable fires.
@@ryano.5149 Man, should've made HESH bombs then
@@ryano.5149 Like the OP mentioned, with the Franklin, some munitions and fuel that were hazardously waiting to be loaded onto planes were detonated under the deck when a rogue Japanese bomber basically snuck into range. Apparently a lot of crew instantly died when the ship bucked with the initial explosion of the munitions, throwing the crew into the armored ceiling, breaking their necks and probably cracking skulls. The ones who survived mostly had helmets on. Insane, brutal shit.
And to think of what modern bombs, which use much more effective filler, would do to a WW2 ship.. It wouldn't be pretty
Here's a grim but informative video on the Franklin from Drachinfel: th-cam.com/video/Tf83V2kdAXM/w-d-xo.html
The reasoning for the wood on the main deck of WWII ships and earlier was to keep the inside of the ships cool. They didn't have Air conditioning large enough to keep the internals of these large ovens cool. Modern ships use sea water in their air conditioning so the cooler the sea water the cooler the internal air. I remember sitting in the NAG on a Tico. No teak decks and sea water temperature of 98F. IT SUUUUUUUUUUCKED.
Oh and that would have been a definite kill on the Yamato. The fires alone would have caused more structural damage than your non-penetrating bombs.
It's kinda funny that IJN Yamato and Bismark are touted as the best battleships ever made but are both on the bottom of the sea. The Iowa class ships are in my opinion the best while not the largest but by far the most effective with speed range and accuracy. The USS Missouri on whose deck the documents that ended WWII were signed and USS New Jersey the most decorated ship in Navy history are the 2 most famous Iowa class battleships as a whole all Iowa class ships are now museums and none were ever sank.
right. irritates me how much praise those ships got. at the bottom of the ocean as heaps of metal, and were taken down by the sheer will of the pilots. all that size/armor/firepower just to become a sea reef well before WWII ended. lmfao.
Ship design and proper employment are two different things, though they should be integrated.
The Scenario is that WW2 Japan somehow managed to get a time warping device in order to reduce time needed to get to okinawa and so they can defend the island on time of the american invasion of okinawa and they installed the device on their ships after the device was recently made. While on their way, the Japanese battle group used their time warping device to skip some time. But, an error has made them travel to 2020s earth, instead of 1940s earth. In the modern world, on the airbase, a radar picked up a battle group off the coast and the staff immedialty sounded the alarm of an incoming attack and ordered the pilots to destroy the battlegroup with A-10 warthogs that is stationed at the airbase and thus the battle begins.
Lmao but why a-10s well mine wasnt better
@@edvin_hookwell, they are very effective at destorying anything that is on earth anyway
@@valengamertv2964 TRUE but just use harpoons, well this is stupid anyways and a-10 is the must fun so they probebly thought about that and wacthed some youtube with BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
Well there you go right there!
Better plot than The Last Jedi
We need a modernized Yamato versus the world.
Just to watch it get LRASM'd back to hell
Also, just throwing my 2 cents in here, in this scenario, my method of target acquisition would have been as follows:
1. Set SOI to TGP on right MFCD
2. DMS left SHORT to display R. MFCD on HMCS for good measure
3. Point HMCS crosshair at target
4. DMS right LONG to slew TGP to crosshair LOS
5. Refine acquisition on target using TGP image
6. TMS up LONG to slave SPI to TGP
7. Mark in case I lose target LOS or need to change targets.
I'd like to think the scenario is that a privateer squadron of ex-WW2 pilots with deep pockets and unfinished business going after a Yamato that somehow survived the chaos instead of sinking.
Or the Yamato got rebuilt in secret and US Gov't finally found out... Beyond that, I don't have much lol
Would it be similar to the AC7 DLC involving the super submarine Alicorn?
@@mill2712 It could be, if GR wills it to be.
You mentioned the A-10 needing mire power especially the C version. About 8 years ago I started thinking about this very problem. One thing probably the reason it hasn't changed is the specific fuel consumption is so low with the current engine. I searched civilian and even enemy engines of similar size and nothing as light as those tf34s can even come close. My brainstorm would change to one CFM56 of which their are many varriants up to 32,000 plus pounds thrust. The single engine would sit in the center of the current engine and grab the fuselage at the mounting points of each current engine nacel. You might gain some area from the fuselage as well this CFM56 A-10 version will be not much longer but it will be close to half a meter larger diameter. I think performance would change a little but climb rate hopefully would double or more. I choose rye CFM56 as it is mature with 100,000s hours time on wing and could be churned out special version for this purpose the fastest.
The Yamato was sunk by a combination of bomb and torpedo hits. I believe torpedoes ultimately doomed her. She took on too much water to make counter flooding ineffective and she eventually capsized and sunk. I am inclined to agree that an Astute class submarine with a few 53 cm heavy weight torpedoes would have made short work of her.
Here's a thing about death by torpedoes.
Before operation ten go a year before, her sister Musashi took a lot of hits and died slower than Yamato later
Turns out when it comes to torpedo runs, *you're supposed to focus fire on one side.* That is when it's easier to capsize than just dealing flooding damage on both
If you are looking at modern torpedoes, then use a proximity fused torpedo and break the ships back.. no matter how well armored a battleship was not designed to have its weight supported only at the bow and stern.
Estimated damage is from 5 to 10 times detonation against the hull.
Of course, you could use a nuclear warhead
@@duanesamuelson2256 in the nuke's case, I remember hearing you don't need to sink her, you could just turn her into a ghost ship
@SHANEDOESTH-cam actually a ww2 battleship would survive and keep fighting from an airburst and radiation. The armor is thick enough to provide an efficient radiation shield. It has to be close enough to do actual blast damage.
The ships they had at bikini actually did very well.
@@duanesamuelson2256 wait, armor could shield radiation???
the wood decks provided two things insulation from solar heating and splinter protection from shrapnel
37:00 Matrix going to try the rendezook in DCS.
Loving the random scenarios. Are you able to re-run the Dambusters Raid (Operation Chastise) or do a modern version? Can you even model Barnes Wallis' bouncing bomb? That would be cool.
The Yamato class had special AA rounds for it's main guns that that albeit didn't work that well (compared to the proximity fuses the Brits invented), but made some HUGE ariel booms that would shake a plane crews teeth. Can't say for sure what they'd do to modern aircraft and their electronics and precision parts.
If anyone wants to read a trilogy with this scenario, a US modern Naval group is sent back thru a wormhole to the Battle of Midway and how they first must deal with the surprised US Navy. Then, with their modern armaments and knowledge of the outcome of the war, it shows how the modern Naval force adapts to living in the 1940's. Lots of cultural clashes bc the modern US Navy has Black and female officers that the 1940's Navy has to adjust to. It's a 3 book trilogy starting with Weapons of Choice. An added quirk is that the modern Navy also include a guy in the SAS name Prince Harry and he eventually is sent to London to meet his grandmother who is in her 20's. Great characters and plot in the trilogy.
It might have made a better video if your squad had familiarized themselves with their aircraft before entering combat.
Due to blast effect, the 18in 'San-shiki' AA shells proved to be a greater threat to the exposed crews in the open gun tubs than the incoming attack planes.
Correction Grim
The wooden decks were never ripped up and thrown to Sea in a battle. The wood proved a skid proof surface, spark proof surface for moving munitions and insulation to the decks below. One thing to note is the Iowas have what’s called a splinter deck designed to stop armor piercing shells. There’s a lot of armor a shell would ever have to pass through to ever damage what’s called the “armored citadel” the entire ship can be conned and stay in the fight no matter how bad the deck is damaged due to all of the important machinery and engineering is inside the armored citadel.
Lancasters with Grand Slam bombs per Matrix's suggestion.
I go to the beach alot just North of Cape Canaveral,Florida. I was out there during a weekday on the beach when two A-10's came flying up from the Air Force base .They were flying very low and slow just above the surf .I believe they were checking out the bathing beauties laying on the beach.They were that close . After flying about ten miles North they turned around and did it again going back South to the Air Force base .The A-10's are good for girl watching .
The laser would not penetrate heavy smoke, it would be reflected back to the bomb at the point it hit the smoke. It would depend on the impact angle of the weapon as to whether it would still strike the target, or fly over it with a low impact angle. Essentially the weapon would be aiming at a point above the target.
It's funny to me there are this many people who are both not in the military and know how to operate an A10. Bravo
What an absolutely absurd scenario 😂. I love it
I just absolutely love how cat gets so offended over people having fun or even wanting to have fun
I could understand you wanting it to be realistic if it was an actual realistic, seeing what you guys were doing, but all this video was just a test to see if an A-10 can even take down the Yamato
So in my opinion, getting mad at somebody for shooting too early accidentally is a pretty shitty thing to do and then getting mad at Violet just because she asked you if you wanted her to respawn when all you had to say was not this round but you will respond to the next round
I have noticed that more lately that you are getting really demanding of people.
Maybe you should relax a little bit and just let people have fun sometimes I’m not take it so seriously because at the end of the day it is just a video game
Violet becoming a instructor is pretty impressive when she just started right? Awesome video as well.
they so those that can to teach hahahaha, sorry i had to make the joke she did die right off the bat. but all in all she did do a good job of explaining how things work.
@@simba1113 glad to see I have your stamp of approval lol
@@simba1113 you guys need to box it out. I'm kidding
Also while I've only been flying in dcs since last may, the A10C2 is by far my favorite and most flown airframe, if I had to estimate my time in the A10, I would have to say I've got around 350-500 hours in it, don't have an exact number as I haven't really been keeping track
@Violet Moon well it takes a hard-core commitment to be able to fly anything in DCS. It's pretty darn impressive to see you progress. I like simba alot but I wish he was a little more patient with you and nice. Keep it up though.
Love the videos and I LOVE the A-10!
The Yamato is one of my favorite WW2 battleships, she wasn't really outdated but her purpose wasn't really what she was made for.
which one might well interpret as outdated. This can be tactically as well as technically. Arguably all Battleships were outdated.
@@5Andysalive Pretty much, because all they did was help shell positions, transport supplies and troops and escort convoys pretty much.
@@subjectc7505 That's why those who didn't have or use any won the war i guess. And those who lost thought that building submarines in numbers early on (pre Radar) would have been ressources much better spent.
It's pretty evident from history and Hollywood, that if your Battleship is noticed as a threat, there is one push to take it down and all said ressources are lost with no impact on the war. Or you work around it, which is easier than with a carrier.
None of this denies that they are incredibly impressive and cool engineering. .
@@5Andysalive Most nations back then had their Navy completely wiped out, or battleships sunk and most wars were primarily land-based. Also imagine the cost of maintaining a whole fleet. Yet alone the Yamato and her sister ship.
As one of the engineers who designed the A-10, my father-in-law would have loved this video.