Thank you Dylan for all you do... You inspire me to do better for all my animals. I always enjoy listening to you and find the topics you discuss so important. Keep up the good work. I always look forward to hearing what you will talk about next.
I just purchased the BP bio kit from the Bio Dude about a month ago. I LOVE it! I got the 40g for a 36x18x18, I have a whole extra brick of sphagnum moss and tons of leaf litter too 😊 I just got my 1st BP last Friday. My guy, Cosmo is settling in nicely. Thanks for this info. It's very good to know!
It's almost a kick in the berries that I've made my enclosures even more efficient using lower wattage basking bulbs. So going from 80W to 150W now I have to put the bulb further away and waste more energy to no benefit of my reptiles.
Its weird that heat generators are considered inefficient. If the point is to generate heat, then the way they determine energy efficiency should be different.
I sat down and wrote a letter to the DoE, "on behalf of" my gecko. Thanks for the nudge to finally get it done. As I was composing my message, I thought of something that I think is worth mentioning. Discussing the technical aspects and legal intricacies of why the halogen heat lamps should be exempt is important, but we have an additional tool that I think should be brought to bear: the power of cute animals. I'm sure the number of people petitioning them is going to be relatively small, so we each need to make as big an impact as possible. How better than to put faces to the reasons we're asking for the reclassification? You'd better believe Morticia's cute mug was attached to my email, and I hope others consider doing something similar. These are our pets, after all, and who doesn't love a pet photo?
It's mentioned in the video that tungsten lamps have been measured to be not above 3000 K. As tungsten is a poor black body radiator, all measurements based on that can't be used. So I'm curious, how was it measured?
Great question. In the video I say we can consider it “99% the same”, but actually this is one of the lies I speak of at the start. The truth is that tungsten changes emissivity depending on its temperature. And it’s around 0.5. And not only that, it changes per wavelength, it’s a bit of a video in its own right! We have a much more appropriate dataset that we use for TRUE black body readings, in the background. But that dataset is a little more complex than the one presented here and thus isn’t suitable for a quick intro. We can measure temperature of a filament based on its resistance value, in a relatively simple method. It’s doable by measuring voltage drop :)
@@tomaskasThank you! I get that it's easy to measure the current, voltage drop and thus resistance. Do you then compare the resistance ratio of R(turned on):R(turned off) and compare it to the R-T curve of bulk tungsten metal? (I don't know if the filament is pure tungsten.) Or may be you can get the power consumption, but from that to the temperature you still need the emission efficiency, the surface area and the emission density temperature curve? Or maybe you fit the Vis-NIR spectrum to the definition of color temperature?🤔 (I major in physical chemistry so I'm overly curious about everything spectrum related 😅)
@@yuanheli307 this is precisely what we do! If you join the Reptile Lighting Group there is SO much info on this, and I feel your input would be invaluable to the studies we are doing!
I’m gonna have to go to petsmart to buy out their Arcadia 100watt halogen floods because those are the only halogen bulbs available to me as Amazon and eBay are out of stock pretty much. It’s ridiculous, my ackie is only a year and a half old and he’s got 19 more years ahead of him, I have no idea what to do. I am distraught.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast yeah I heard that before my phone died during the video. I guess these bulbs will have to be made in a slightly different manner for the “specific” use. I’m in FL and heat isn’t the issue. I’ll use a 250 watt flood during the winter if needed for reptiles. However I did like fluorescent lights for my plants. I get roughly the same results from 6500K LED through a sheet of glass that I did from 3500-4500K fluorescent bulbs over a screen. Moss tank. Trees are harder to get growing under these LED. For newt and frog tanks though. We need the UVB LED chips
Yeah, and actually the 250 W bulbs are an exception, I think anything over 125 W will continue to be produced. The issue is bulbs between 25 and 100 W. Yes, we definitely need a further array of UVBLED chips, I’m sure they aren’t far away.
Thank you both for all your hard work, including this video. Five days later, and I'm still digesting it all. There is one thread I wanted to follow up on first: how to identify instances where the same bulb is being marketed by two different companies. I think I need a little help in *how* to go about figuring this out. Should I be going to forums and looking for credible voices? Reviewing hobby-published literature and comparing characteristics that way? Physically examining bulbs and packaging looking for clues? I'm more than a little disturbed at the idea that the same bulb is being marketed by two different companies as producing two different levels of UV.
I’ve said this to Dillon - this is a GREAT question. And thanks for your feedback. You know where we are if you want to help digest some more :) Regarding the question on the same lamp being marketed by different brands, you raise valid points. Really the only way to absolutely know is to take spectral readings from them. But this isn’t a viable option clearly. There are other telltale signs, for example Sylvania used a dot-matrix print to mark their lamps with a batch code. And many lamps have identical batch codes. By far the best way though is to speak to people who have tested the lamps - there’s a few of us on the Reptile Lighting group! And you can work out the numbers for an equivalent lamp even if it’s not 100% identical. Regarding the “different levels of UVB”. This is not the case. The 12% vs 10.0 is just a naming thing, and actually only emit around 8% UVB when measured if I remember correctly. The naming structure isn’t great for either of them. Exo Terra uses 100, 150, 200, 300 - which is also strange but is supposed to represent the amount of UVB in μW/cm² at 30cm away. But it’s still not perfect. This is why Reptile Systems moved away from the % system and went with the Ferguson zones.
I have mixed feelings about this ban because of the compact bulbs. ZooMed still sells their bearded dragon kits with compact bulbs and I’ve heard that they don’t provide the UV index that bearded dragons need. How long have they been selling kits to beginners with completely wrong items to provide their new reptiles their most basic needs? I know ZooMed supports the hobby, but is anyone else getting a little tired of our reptile companies giving beginners a rough start?
I just bought a pack of 2 75 watt ZooMed bulbs. I didn’t know they were supposed to actually pull their products off the shelves, I thought they could still sell the lamps that are already in retail.
I kinda knew the NERD video was probably an overreaction just because USARK hasn't said anything about the hobby being in danger due to all heat lamps being banned. If the problem had been as serious as that video made it out to be, there's no way USARK would be silent about it.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast some of the more flippant dismissals in the comments here. Certain personalities on the pettube end of things tend to attract tribalism and white knighting in their fanbase. To be clear nothing to do with you or thomas, you're both great and Ive pointed people to the lighting deep dive he did with reptiles and research multiple times because its got a load of great info.
"Specialized incandescent bulbs - like bug lights and those that go inside ovens - are exempt from this new rule." one google search and you can see that this title is click bait. its for normal house lights. not specialized lights.
The entire problem, and what they mention as soon as they get into the explanation of the halogen ban, is that most reptile bulbs are not classed as "Specialized incandescent bulbs". Obviously they should be but again that's why any of this is happening in the first place. Maybe watch the video first before deciding it's clickbait. They even have convinient timestamps, so don't even have to watch the whole thing.
@@tomaskas (edit:please ignore this comment im responding to the wrong guy) My problem isn’t with you calling the video clickbait. saying it’s clickbait because the preposed ban doesn’t include the bulbs we use for reptiles is wrong And you would know that if you watched the video. Now if you watched the video and still thought the thumb nail was unnecessarily inflammatory, that would be fair enough. It just annoys me when people say stuff like that without even bothering to watch it.
@pinheadlarry5616 I think Thomas was replying to the original post and not you 😂. (He was the guest in the episode). But YES, you are exactly right! The original poster made it abundantly clear that he did not take the time to watch the episode before commenting!
How is this fear based? The bulbs are in fact banned, and it’s a 90 minute video including everything you need to know about this particular issue. NERD’s video was full of factual errors. This one, gives people the proper tools and information. After you listen to it (if you do), you’ll have to let me know if the vibe felt fear-based during the conversation
Click bait is intentionally misleading or vague so that someone clicks on something. This is simply a pic of a chameleon with a factual statement. Very different than "This is BAD, we're not ready and neither are you! You should be afraid, etc"
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a very important watch. thanks for keeping it clear and simple
Thanks for watching, Alex!
That black body radiator graph FINALLY gave me clarity on why dimming lamps is less effective.
Beyond that, this is very informative. Thank you both.
Yeah, I should probably clip that section out and make it its own video because it’s so good! Glad you enjoyed this one!
I sent in that email to the DoE! Hopefully it helps things go smoothly so that our animals can continue getting the care and welfare they deserve.
Awesome! 🙏🏻👌🏼
Thank you Dylan for all you do... You inspire me to do better for all my animals. I always enjoy listening to you and find the topics you discuss so important. Keep up the good work. I always look forward to hearing what you will talk about next.
I used to be on horse back through that area back in the mid-late 1970’s. Looks like it hasn’t changed much.
Thank you for the information!
I just purchased the BP bio kit from the Bio Dude about a month ago. I LOVE it! I got the 40g for a 36x18x18, I have a whole extra brick of sphagnum moss and tons of leaf litter too 😊 I just got my 1st BP last Friday. My guy, Cosmo is settling in nicely. Thanks for this info. It's very good to know!
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This was great. Thanks very much for this one!
Thanks for watching!
It's almost a kick in the berries that I've made my enclosures even more efficient using lower wattage basking bulbs. So going from 80W to 150W now I have to put the bulb further away and waste more energy to no benefit of my reptiles.
Exactly, and it’s totally pointless! Let’s hope this regulation gets overturned
NERD is known for rumors and fueling drama, Donny and Kevin live by it.
Great video, wish it wouldn't have took me so long to get to it!
Its weird that heat generators are considered inefficient. If the point is to generate heat, then the way they determine energy efficiency should be different.
I sat down and wrote a letter to the DoE, "on behalf of" my gecko. Thanks for the nudge to finally get it done. As I was composing my message, I thought of something that I think is worth mentioning. Discussing the technical aspects and legal intricacies of why the halogen heat lamps should be exempt is important, but we have an additional tool that I think should be brought to bear: the power of cute animals. I'm sure the number of people petitioning them is going to be relatively small, so we each need to make as big an impact as possible. How better than to put faces to the reasons we're asking for the reclassification? You'd better believe Morticia's cute mug was attached to my email, and I hope others consider doing something similar. These are our pets, after all, and who doesn't love a pet photo?
Excellent point! Thank you for forwarding me the email as well 😊
Thank you for this vid!
It's mentioned in the video that tungsten lamps have been measured to be not above 3000 K. As tungsten is a poor black body radiator, all measurements based on that can't be used. So I'm curious, how was it measured?
Great question.
In the video I say we can consider it “99% the same”, but actually this is one of the lies I speak of at the start.
The truth is that tungsten changes emissivity depending on its temperature. And it’s around 0.5. And not only that, it changes per wavelength, it’s a bit of a video in its own right!
We have a much more appropriate dataset that we use for TRUE black body readings, in the background. But that dataset is a little more complex than the one presented here and thus isn’t suitable for a quick intro.
We can measure temperature of a filament based on its resistance value, in a relatively simple method. It’s doable by measuring voltage drop :)
@@tomaskasThank you! I get that it's easy to measure the current, voltage drop and thus resistance. Do you then compare the resistance ratio of R(turned on):R(turned off) and compare it to the R-T curve of bulk tungsten metal? (I don't know if the filament is pure tungsten.)
Or may be you can get the power consumption, but from that to the temperature you still need the emission efficiency, the surface area and the emission density temperature curve?
Or maybe you fit the Vis-NIR spectrum to the definition of color temperature?🤔
(I major in physical chemistry so I'm overly curious about everything spectrum related 😅)
@@yuanheli307 this is precisely what we do! If you join the Reptile Lighting Group there is SO much info on this, and I feel your input would be invaluable to the studies we are doing!
I’m gonna have to go to petsmart to buy out their Arcadia 100watt halogen floods because those are the only halogen bulbs available to me as Amazon and eBay are out of stock pretty much. It’s ridiculous, my ackie is only a year and a half old and he’s got 19 more years ahead of him, I have no idea what to do. I am distraught.
I thought the ban was general. Meaning that lights for some specific uses would still be produced. So reptile lights will be banned now for sure?
Unfortunately, reptile bulbs have been lumped in with general use
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast yeah I heard that before my phone died during the video. I guess these bulbs will have to be made in a slightly different manner for the “specific” use.
I’m in FL and heat isn’t the issue. I’ll use a 250 watt flood during the winter if needed for reptiles.
However I did like fluorescent lights for my plants. I get roughly the same results from 6500K LED through a sheet of glass that I did from 3500-4500K fluorescent bulbs over a screen. Moss tank. Trees are harder to get growing under these LED. For newt and frog tanks though.
We need the UVB LED chips
Yeah, and actually the 250 W bulbs are an exception, I think anything over 125 W will continue to be produced. The issue is bulbs between 25 and 100 W. Yes, we definitely need a further array of UVBLED chips, I’m sure they aren’t far away.
Thank you both for all your hard work, including this video. Five days later, and I'm still digesting it all. There is one thread I wanted to follow up on first: how to identify instances where the same bulb is being marketed by two different companies. I think I need a little help in *how* to go about figuring this out. Should I be going to forums and looking for credible voices? Reviewing hobby-published literature and comparing characteristics that way? Physically examining bulbs and packaging looking for clues? I'm more than a little disturbed at the idea that the same bulb is being marketed by two different companies as producing two different levels of UV.
Thank you very much for watching, glad you found it valuable! I will see if I can get Thomas to chime in on your question
I’ve said this to Dillon - this is a GREAT question.
And thanks for your feedback. You know where we are if you want to help digest some more :)
Regarding the question on the same lamp being marketed by different brands, you raise valid points.
Really the only way to absolutely know is to take spectral readings from them. But this isn’t a viable option clearly.
There are other telltale signs, for example Sylvania used a dot-matrix print to mark their lamps with a batch code. And many lamps have identical batch codes.
By far the best way though is to speak to people who have tested the lamps - there’s a few of us on the Reptile Lighting group! And you can work out the numbers for an equivalent lamp even if it’s not 100% identical.
Regarding the “different levels of UVB”. This is not the case. The 12% vs 10.0 is just a naming thing, and actually only emit around 8% UVB when measured if I remember correctly. The naming structure isn’t great for either of them. Exo Terra uses 100, 150, 200, 300 - which is also strange but is supposed to represent the amount of UVB in μW/cm² at 30cm away. But it’s still not perfect. This is why Reptile Systems moved away from the % system and went with the Ferguson zones.
The restaurant industry uses halogen lights all the time for heat.
I have mixed feelings about this ban because of the compact bulbs. ZooMed still sells their bearded dragon kits with compact bulbs and I’ve heard that they don’t provide the UV index that bearded dragons need. How long have they been selling kits to beginners with completely wrong items to provide their new reptiles their most basic needs? I know ZooMed supports the hobby, but is anyone else getting a little tired of our reptile companies giving beginners a rough start?
I just bought a pack of 2 75 watt ZooMed bulbs. I didn’t know they were supposed to actually pull their products off the shelves, I thought they could still sell the lamps that are already in retail.
Yeah, my guess is many stores will become noncompliant (if I owned a store, I would likely do the same thing!)
I kinda knew the NERD video was probably an overreaction just because USARK hasn't said anything about the hobby being in danger due to all heat lamps being banned. If the problem had been as serious as that video made it out to be, there's no way USARK would be silent about it.
woahhhh cool
What impact will Canadians have with this ?
As of right now, there is no impact as far as I’m aware.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast beside shortages from product being made hopefully thats all that effects us
Its funny how easy it is to spot fanboys coming to the defense of their beloved.
Not sure what you’re referring to?
Maybe the coment " they have never given me any money" it came off poorly.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast some of the more flippant dismissals in the comments here. Certain personalities on the pettube end of things tend to attract tribalism and white knighting in their fanbase.
To be clear nothing to do with you or thomas, you're both great and Ive pointed people to the lighting deep dive he did with reptiles and research multiple times because its got a load of great info.
Hmmm🎉😊
I am confusion, can someone explain to me why I can buy all of zoo med's banned products on Amazon still.
It’s up to the sellers to pull the bulbs off the shelves…. Most haven’t done so yet
The ban has been going on in CO for years, I can still go into any pet store and buy reptile heat bulbs, including incandescent.
"Specialized incandescent bulbs - like bug lights and those that go inside ovens - are exempt from this new rule." one google search and you can see that this title is click bait. its for normal house lights. not specialized lights.
The entire problem, and what they mention as soon as they get into the explanation of the halogen ban, is that most reptile bulbs are not classed as "Specialized incandescent bulbs". Obviously they should be but again that's why any of this is happening in the first place. Maybe watch the video first before deciding it's clickbait. They even have convinient timestamps, so don't even have to watch the whole thing.
Veritasium has a whole video dedicated to clickbait. It’s worth a watch.
@@tomaskas (edit:please ignore this comment im responding to the wrong guy) My problem isn’t with you calling the video clickbait. saying it’s clickbait because the preposed ban doesn’t include the bulbs we use for reptiles is wrong And you would know that if you watched the video.
Now if you watched the video and still thought the thumb nail was unnecessarily inflammatory, that would be fair enough. It just annoys me when people say stuff like that without even bothering to watch it.
@pinheadlarry5616 I think Thomas was replying to the original post and not you 😂. (He was the guest in the episode). But YES, you are exactly right! The original poster made it abundantly clear that he did not take the time to watch the episode before commenting!
omg sorry i thought both comments were from the same guy😭
That's hilarious you put out the piece about nerd and then your thumbnail basically does the exact same fear based click bait 😅 foh
How is this fear based? The bulbs are in fact banned, and it’s a 90 minute video including everything you need to know about this particular issue. NERD’s video was full of factual errors. This one, gives people the proper tools and information. After you listen to it (if you do), you’ll have to let me know if the vibe felt fear-based during the conversation
Zip it up when your're done bud
If this guy was in Hiroshima on the morning of 1945, he would complain about the air siren bring too attention grabbing.
Click bait is intentionally misleading or vague so that someone clicks on something. This is simply a pic of a chameleon with a factual statement. Very different than "This is BAD, we're not ready and neither are you! You should be afraid, etc"
If you suffer from insomnia, just play this video.