UVB BULBS WILL BE BANNED?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- UVB bulbs that use mercury will be banned soon. That includes t5, t8 and coil UVB bulbs! Where does that leave reptile keeping? Well UVB LED is right around the corner!
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I thought fluorescent lamps were going to be banned for household use only, not reptiles.
Correct. Much like incandescent bulbs.
Not from my understanding from everyone over at reptile lighting
The “Special Purpose Products” have been removed from legislation. That’s why 50+ trade associations and herp groups in Europe have signed the open letter to the EU Commission to request exception.
However, currently no exception exists.
Regardless of whether animals get exception, Sylvania has closed its factory and Narva will be closing in a few years. So going forward all fluorescent lamps must be manufactured elsewhere. This will probably mean being poorly made to a lower standard.
This essentially makes any new ventures or product lines into fluorescent lighting/fixtures a bit of a silly move. Even if the ban is lifted.
UVB LED is not yet here. But it needs more R&D than it’s currently getting.
I often draw the comparison to when Apple removed the headphone jack from the iPhone. People thought it was an awful idea. Nowadays it’s surprising if a phone DOES have a headphone jack. It was shocking at first but the consumers had to be TOLD what was best for them. Without their hands being forced, we’d still be living in the Stone Age.
This was my understanding too
@@tomaskasWait, what do you mean headphone jacks are not in phones anymore? I have never not had a phone without one. And I have a new phone.
Hey Liam, this is great info. I am across the pond but I am sure clowns in the government are working on similar bans. Hopefully they will allow some exemptions for animal products but honestly who knows. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this and for the support of my channel. Will be spending some of my spare time going through your videos.
Job well done ,,,, congrats bro '
I live in the U.S. and so far halogen bulbs have been out of production (except for at pet stores, BUT I haven't been able to find any at pet stores). I worry about the health of my beardies and the cost of new tech UVBs
specialty bulbs are exempt from energy effeciency requirements in the US so reptile specialty bulbs are here for now. unfortunately most of the bulbs in the US are manufactured in the EU like R&R said.
@jakej.2893 thanks. I must've missed that part...I'm glad he's excited and ready to see what's coming and how they'll do.
@@jakej.2893i am sure this will be as well in EU. This was the case with glowing bulbs as well.
PetSmart has halogen, I buy the Arcadia brand
Drinking game: take a shot each time Liam says "something coming" or "LED UV"
are there any alternatives without mercury?
It’s really just a few diodes that need to come down in price to get them close to fluorescent UVB.
Is this for the USA?
What do you think of vivtechs SurSun mid day blaze UV led?
Why are the T5 and T8 bulbs being banned?
What about HID?
Cost will be enormous we're already seeing huge prices in existing tech. What about uvc pond filters?
Why is it going to be banned?
Wasnt there a podcast in the animals at hime network with someone from exoterra talking about a new linear led uvb? Was talikng abiut how you could control the level of the uvb and uva so you could use the same bulb for different species I think it was on project herpeticulture
Yeah, that was on the last P:H on Friday. A Zoo Med guy was on Animals at Home a few months ago and talked about their solution too
But what about zoos?
So more drilling, and more money. Cool.
You said you haven't been impressed with the LED UVB you've seen.. I have a Zoo Med Reptisun UVB LED, they are certainly not cheap, but when I used a UV meter it seemed like the dose was right. I'm curious if you're familiar with this product and what your objections are to it if you have any.
I’ve not used these
Interesting. How far does the uvb travel? With normal tech it degrades quickly after a few inches, and what percentage is it at. Desert species and dragons need more obviously. It's hard to find data let alone products in the UK
What ban is this? And why is it going to be ban being put in?
@@ZaryaTheLaikaSoon we can't have computers, phones, freezers and fridges. We will be completely on the mercy of some climate hacks. Enough of this bullshit.
Hmm, I wonder if this is why it's so hard to find the Shadedweller Max fixtures in the US? And where I can find them, they're more than double the price of the Pro version 😖
Nah that’s a whole other thing unfortunately
To be fair the SD-Max’s are double the length 😅
LED diodes are also going to be used in greenhouses, I reckon, as they are a fake sun product, like a fake tan, but the other way around. 😂
Is that ban only for UK or the whole Europe?
Europe
@@ReptilesandResearch damm...
What was the point in brevity if we are still following EU Tyranny....
Why are they being banned??
Environmental reasons I believe
Ok I have not heard this. Why is UVB bulbs being band?
That is just great! We just spent a ton of money upgrading husbandry. Lot went into trying to improve quality of life so my animals can thrive. That's going to suck if I can't get it anymore. My animals are enjoying the UVB lamps. Hopefully they come out with something that is not going to be banned. I can't really afford to reinvest in all new kits. If the new bulbs don't fit the fixtures I already have, they'll probably just not get UVB.
@@ZaryaTheLaika I wonder if that means an end to reptile keeping? If they cant figure out something. Thankfully none of my snakes will die without UVB. However I can tell they enjoy it. I hope they come out with something that is safe and effective that we can use for our pets that need it.
I NEEED it 🤣🙏🙌
What about mercury bulbs? I assume they would too
Yeah
Reptile keeping is a minority interest, so I am not hopeful that an alternative uvb source will be available in time.
Isn't it still the case that whatever LED technology can only emit one wavelength per diode. Meaning that it is far more accurate, but unless you have a LOT of LEDs that cover every single desired wavelength, you cannot really cover a full array of wavelength(s). This is rather easy with plant lights as they don't have eyes, but I'm afraid it will be expensive for our kind of purpose. Sadly enough, in the Netherlands, it are the same parties that, so called, come up for animal rights, that are also banning the tech that keep our animals healthy. I am all for change but I don't like to throw shoes away before buying new ones
To my knowledge the ban doesn't effect anything built, marketed or sold for the care of animals and therefore shouldn't impact the reptile keeping community. However if this is not the case can you share where it says this in the legislation?
Watch the latest video it explains in great detail
I think your prediction may come in pretty soon…by a certain lighting company 🙏🏻
I was writing this before I got to the end of your video, yeah I completely agree, nothing’s bigger in the reptile lighting world than LED UV at the moment. Roll on November 24th😅
I think if you can't supply sun light for your reptile then you shouldnt have one if I couldn't provide food I'd be a monster .
You obviously know nothing about reptiles.
If it’s not LED UvB why is Arcadia making such a big deal. I couldn’t think of anything bigger and more innovative and game changing than LED UVB right now. So if it’s not I will be extremely disappointed.
Sadly, LEDs are not yet there, as a technology, to be a source of UVB for reptile needs.
While „possible”, and diodes with the specs on paper exist, and are incorporated in some marine products - they aren’t yet a viable option for reptile husbandry.
I know of a few professional projects, spanning over several years now, involving prototyped, various iterations of such product - and there are huge problems with the reliability, and real, in-use lifespan of the available components (regardless of the price).
So if someone will launch such product, I for sure will be very happy, but personally also wary of it’s reliability, and if it was properly tested, instead of rushed because of market opportunity, and based purely on the expected component specs.
@@inopes3628 that’s exactly how I feel about it as well. Since the ones on the market right now aren’t reliable making such a big deal like Arcadia has been doing seems like they have cracked the code by the show they are putting on
I dpubt it will be banned. Back when traditional glowing bulbs got banned, they would still allow purpose built products on the technology (look at MVB, this is still technically partly a glowing bulb)
2025? or 2027?
These environmentalists are insane