@@ninjason57 If Mormons are the unofficial, questionable-quality fangame that some think is canon for some reason, Jehovah's Witnesses are the App Store rip off.
The problem with this quiz is that it ranks the denominations based on how many individual issues you agree with them on, without weighting each issue based on how important they are. I'm a Baptist and the quiz said that I was most similar to the Chinese communist denomination.
Because if the Chinese church is accurate, they are biblically sound. The only thing they do wrong is get run by the ccp. Their beliefs align with baptists according to this quiz
I got the CCP deno too, followed by Methodist and Baptist. Baptist lines up since a lot of the churches I grew up with were non-denominational, which usually means "Baptist lite." Haven't looked into that one (For obvious reasons, I do not follow that denomination) but it's weird how it seems to be similar enough to Baptists that it keeps giving Baptists/Baptist-leaning people that result.
The 3-self patriotic movement only has 15 questions, so if you answer one of those correctly the fraction always ends up being higher, because it's generally basic fundamentals of Protestantism.
I was tryna figure out what denomination I am most like cuz I haven’t decided and I got Pentecostal but I had like no clue on what some of the questions asked
“It’s not bad because it’s contemporary. It’s bad because it’s bad.” Hear, hear! I too can play the same 4 major chords with a random minor or 7 chord thrown in but not too often lest the people get too wild. #blessed to have a beautiful and huge pipe organ with a true master at the helm in my church. Something about having my internals vibrated during the hymns helps me feel so much more connected in worship. 😅
I got only 83% Catholic but when I checked the answer sheet there were some curveballs especially: 1. Clergy - I answered above the age of 30 and ordained since technically unmarried priests is Latin Church discipline and can be changed. Eastern Catholics have married priests. 2. Inerrancy - The Bible is considered inerrant so the answer No, but only on matters of salvation threw me off since I'd have answered yes, but lol. 3. Baptism - though traditionally done by pouring, the Church allows immersion as well. The only requirement is that the water must flow on the person.
I was especially confused when it said that Catholic Church teaches that the universe was started by the “Big Bang” since the Church has never definitively stated the exact way the universe was made
@@raphaelledesma9393i was hesitant to answer unmarried bc the one “loophole” is if you’re married within another denomination and then become ordained upon conversion to Catholicism. Ig you’re technically not married, you just take care of your former spouse, but it’s not divorce either because you’re still married by law
Apparently I’m a three self patriotic movement. I think this mostly happens because so few of their beliefs are listed, so if you agree with basic characteristics of Christianity you get about 67% in common with them
I mean yeah, they’re basically just a Potemkin church that solely exists to give the illusion of religous freedom while being monitored for “seditious behavior”. They can only have the most barebones teachings or risk being sent to labor camps
Why are sprinkling and pouring ideal modes in your view? The Didache encourages immersion if it’s possible and pouring if it’s not, immersion was practiced for much of the Middle Ages, and Calvin said it was the ancient practice of the Church. I’m willing to cede that pouring and sprinkling can be valid, but history and Scripture suggest that immersion is ideal.
Yeah this confused me as well. Maybe in the context of babies non immersion is preferable but otherwise the biblical instances of baptism are immersion.
Not even talking about the elephant in the room that the word baptism comes from the Greek word "baptizo" which means immersion, and that sprinkling and pouring for baptism are found no where in the Bible.
@@getgnomed6179 It also has other meanings such as washing and pouring. There are many instances in Scripture where that word is used and couldn't possibly mean to immerse, such as the Pharisees washing tables. Paul's baptism isn't likely to have been immersion since it never states they left the house. Also, imagine the 3,000 at Pentecost being immersed; did they go miles out of their way to find a river? Never says that. You're inserting your theology into the text.
The Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM; Chinese: 三自爱国运动; pinyin: Sānzì Àiguó Yùndòng) is the official government supervisory organ for Protestantism in the People's Republic of China. It is colloquially known as the Three-Self Church (Chinese: 三自教会; pinyin: Sānzì Jiàohuì). From Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia.
Fun video! I took the quiz along with you. As a southerner + Baptist (more than anything else, at least), I get a kick out of your Baptist comments. I agree with many of your takes, but not surprised it ranked pretty high. You actually agree with my beliefs more than you may think! If you're ever in Nashville I'd love to invite you to my church. Great vid, God bless.
I would love a video about modes of water Baptism. I consider myself Presbyterian but one thing I still don't understand is why we baptize by sprinkling or pouring, instead of immersion. I heard somewhere "baptism" is literally drieved from a word like "immersion," which is what confuses me. Unless it's a symbolic term, like being "baptized" and immersed by the Holy Spirit? Love your channel, helped me align with a denomination. Much love and God bless.
The Early Church shows SLIGHT preference for immersion, but the Didache makes it clear that something that’s just not practical, and that in this case it’s no big deal and sprinkling is fine. Seems pretty settled to me!
IDK how it is in the Presbyterian Church but Catholic Canon Law states that pouring and immersion are acceptable. All three were used in Church history depending on practicality. According to the current Canon Law, baptism should be conferred by immersion or pouring. Is sprinkling considered invalid? It should be noted the previous 1917 Canon Law allowed sprinkling. One canonist argued that pouring and immersion are the only 2 ways that baptism should be celebrated now but that sprinkling is still valid (especially important when evaluating Protestant converts who received baptism by sprinkling like yourself).
@@fighterofthenightman1057 re-read the Didache. It gives pouring as an option, but definitely not sprinkling. Lutherans, Anglicans, Catholics...none of us baptize by sprinkling because it's not a part of the received tradition.
@@geochonker9052 Because though the three self church is different from most churches in organization form, but its Theological perspectives and practices are very close to a lot of Protestant traditions… Don’t ask why I know these, I am Chinese 💀
Yeah im confused on some of his takes. Some of his quick answers is biblically well supported, and some are weird like the baptism and pre-destination. I wish he would expound on those instead of some other questions.
@@justapilgrimgoinhome thats not what we are discussing. We are discussing why RZ thinks sprinkling or pouring is "most ideal" compared to immersion that is made as example in the bible.
@@justapilgrimgoinhome The way he speaks of it assumes that it's your average person in an average situation. It's a very strange that sprinkling/pouring is ideal when every situation in the Bible involving baptism is total immersion. Like you said of course baptism doesn't matter at all, but it's still a strange POV of his.
I really missed a third option in the "Who gets saved" section. Namely that there is both predestination and free will and how both work together is a mystery. That is the view of the union of lutheran and reformed churches in Europe who signed the Leuenberg Agreement. Which are over 100 church entities. (Not individual churches. I mean like the EKD which is the Evangelical Church of Germany and it's state sub-branches, or the Church of Scotland, Church of Norway etc.) Even the Presbyterians in Ireland and Wales signed this. I have a feeling, that this quiz is a little USA centric :D This view acknowledges, that there is biblical evidence for both free will and predestination. (A fact) Just because something is too high for our human minds to understand, doesn't mean that it's not real. Like the trinity. We are unitary beings, we can't understand trinity, we can only accept how god described himself to us. Same applies to free will and predestination. Not everything can be logically explained so a human mind can fully comprehend this. God is above human understanding. If he says "I choose people to be saved" but at other times says "you can still say no" then that is how it is.
Yeah and im a bit surprised he took the pre-destination option. So apparently Abraham negotiating with God for Sodom and Gomorra is useless because God decides if those cities will have someone righteous or not? Or how Judas is destined to be in hell, not simply destined to do Satan plan, and having chance to redeem himself just like Peter denying Jesus (but unfortunately Judas failed to the unalive whispers).
@@Crustee0Why would you be surprised REFORMED Zoomer picked Predestination? He’s reformed and Presbyterian which is where Calvinism comes from. Also unless you learned about predestination from a non predestination having person, it’s a lot more nuanced of a stance then you seem to understand.
@@masonmcgahey7fair enough, but like Dsingis said, most of the continental reformed churches (and those in the UK, including the Presbyterians in Wales and the COS) have come to the conclusion that predestination is ultimately a mystery as to who is actually part of the elect. We can make a good guess by someone’s outward fruits (faith in Christ, a life lead by the Spirit and God’s word, modesty and contentment), but God in His wisdom and love alone has foreknown and foreordained those who will be in His Kingdom. “The witness of the Scriptures to Christ forbids us to suppose that God has uttered an eternal decree for the final condemnation of specific individuals or of a particular people.” (Leuenberg Agreement, 25). We simply cannot know who or how God has chosen them, but we can say for a fact that Christ has commanded us to preach to all nations. TL;DR: you’re right there is nuance, and it’s nuance that once properly explained makes the gap between Arminianism and Calvinism seem far less wide. Whether acceptance of Christ is a result of election or the cause of it, God’s People are called out
@@masonmcgahey7 im not that well-versed in theology and what most branch of the church believes in. I had assumed from his videos that he wouldnt believe in pre-destination, because I feel the concept ultimately cripples people motivation to go and spread the Gospel. It will always haunt your mind, going "well, the elect will be saved anyway I can take it easier". I know its probably more nuanced than that, but thats just what I thought about RZ.
@@Crustee0 I just want to clarify every branch of Christianity believes in a form of “predestination”. It’s in scripture. It’s about how we define it. Usually the predestination vs free will debate is more in terms of Augustinian/Thomist/Calvinist predestination vs Armininian and Molanist views on predestination. Or sovereignty vs free will/ free agency. It is more nuanced then that. I don’t believe predestination cripples the gospel nor the spread of the gospel. The argument of worrying about being in the elect can be flipped. I could say that those who lean more towards free will (over free agency) could be crippled by legalism and constantly worrying if they are doing enough or if they will choose in the future to leave the church through being misguided. That would be a straw man. I encourage you to study positions you disagree with earnestly. I’m of a Reformed systematic theology and I still enjoy traditions and theologies that are outside of mine.
RZ, the "I don't care" answer for head coverings is the first one: "no.. no longer required". Assuming by "I don't care" you're really saying "it doesn't matter", because "I don't care" isn't really a good way to answer any question about appropriate Christian behavior. The only correct answer that can be directly linked to scripture is "yes, whenever praying or teaching". "Long hair is the covering" implies that women who are undergoing treatment that causes them to lose their hair cannot pray or teach in church.
@@matthewsteininger2741 I think the question in the quiz is worded a bit weirdly (perhaps to address the potential confusion of what "prophecy" means in modern times), but women aren't prohibited entirely from teaching in the church -- see Titus 2, where older women are charged to teach younger women to love and submit to their husbands, love their children, and tend to the home. But yes, I agree that there is a general prohibition of women holding authority or teaching over men in the church (1 Timothy 2; 1 Corinthians 14)
I would have liked a simple option to say "Yes, when praying or prophesying". Where did they get the idea to instead list "Yes, when praying or teaching instead of a man"? I mean, they could list both, if there's a denomination that goes very specifically beyond scripture in that way, but a simple quotation of what 1st Corinthians 11 says will apply to most denominations that still practice headcovering today.
@@tehZevo_also, the test specifically said "teaching instead of men". Last time I checked, that's not the biblical definition of prophesy. Whatever prophesy is, there is no indication that it is to be practiced exclusively by men. In the context of the church service, yes, women are to be silent. But church life is more than just an hour or two every Sunday.
If the quizz isn't accurate enough, why no try to make one yourself ? You have the knowmedge to probably make quite a good one, as long as you try to remain as neutral as possible while making it
He knows a lot, but one thing he doesn't really understand at all is Seventh-day Adventist beliefs. I can tell whenever he makes a comment about it that he hasn't ever really looked into them. If Ready to Harvest made a denominations quiz I'm confident it would be trustworthy.
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ATTENTION RECONQUISTA BROTHERS!!! I have recently been to First Presbyterian Church in Madisonville Kentucky. Ive found it has a female pastor, and is not on reconquista map!!!! It is PCUSA. Found it on way to florida for college ministry program, as we are staying the night there
Redeemed Zomer when you mentioned the question about traditions and sacred scriptures i recalled a verse i don't remember which one but its in the new testament and it's say "Stand firm to our traditions either by letter or by mouth"or something like that and if a tradition is in the Bible it's equal to the Bible (from a Sola Scriptura point of view) because its in the Bible, and if the Bible mention oral traditions by the apostles then sacred traditions or equal to sacred scripture and neither can ba above the other and there are traditions from the apostles in the Bible rz God bless you brother in Christ and may you have a blessed week bro 🙏
No. In Mark Jesus directly condemns the Pharisees for teaching tradition as if it was scripture. Mark 7:5-15. its literally all of Jesus' confrontations with the Pharisees. Murder is in the Bible but it obviously is sin because the Bible calls it sin. Just cause something is in the Bible doesn't make it biblical. Its biblical if the Bible says its biblical.
The second temple Jews had icons. It wasn’t until the Muslims began influencing eastern Christians that iconoclasm gained support amongst some (mostly eastern) Christians. Some church fathers were aniconicists. Some were iconodules. None were iconoclasts.
8:00 you say the early church had a presbyterian government. Could you put some resources or maybe do a video on that? I'm genuinely curious. Thanks bro!
Me and my friends literally just took this and I got catholic, my friends got Eastern Orthodox, Messianic Judaism, and the three-self patriotic movement
I can’t believe the first question starts with the first answer being a Mormon doctrine 😅 I laughed when Zoomer instantly realized that it was Mormon😂 Anyways keep up the good work and I hope that you continue making content such as this. -Probably our least favorite type of Christian, a Mormon
I used to go to TSPM churches when I lived in China. Each one was different, more or less based on the foreign denomination that owned the church before they became TSPM.
As a Lutheran this quiz made me confused what 'Lutherans' believe, because I often thought "I agree with all (most) of these," or "none of these are that accurate."
@@JamesIronhawk I agree, they get wrong how we baptize, communion and what happens, the sacraments (being only two and not three), fail to mention hymns, ignore the lutheran alternative to covenant theology, and many other elements.
@@estebannrivero The three sacraments are Baptism, Communion, and Confession/Absolution. Confession/Absolution is debated among some Lutherans as to whether or not it should be considered a sacrament. Since the word sacrament itself is not in the bible, we and other denominations are free to define sacrament as we desire. The Lutheran prerequisites for something to be a sacrament are as follows: They have to be instituted directly by Jesus, include a physical element, and give a promise of grace. One of the key ideas of the Lutheran faith is how strongly we emphasize faith and how we view faith and righteousness as something that is outside of us. Sacraments have real benefits to partaking in and do have the promise of grace, but there is a beautiful metaphor there as well.
9:20 Yes they do have access. But some websites are blocked in their country, including TH-cam. It's also one of the few countries that doesn't have Netflix.
I'm a Calvary guy, though I diverge from some minor doctrinal points in the Calvary movement. I scored #1 in Three Self Patriotic Movement, then #2 in Calvary Chapel. It caused me to go down a rabbit trail of finding out about this Communist Chinese denomination, and surprisingly I can’t find a ton reliable info on them. Would love to see a video on them.
Been struggling with my Catholic faith for a while now. This is mainly due to the idea of the Papacy and The Bible being more infallible than the Seat of Peter because of how many times the Popes in the past and present have really twisted the faith in some minor and major aspects. I actually took this quiz last week and got Anglican @_@
The idea of intercession in praying, specifically through known dead people just weird me out the more I think about it. I have heard some Catholic arguments about it, but it basically boils down to "Mary (or some other saints) is close to Jesus, thats like asking your friend's mother to ask for your friend favor". Im like, WELL God is eternally unchanging, so why would Mary (or any saints) have a say in this??? Why not directly ask God? I can get the concept of intercession in case of very sick person wanting to pray but not having the strength to utter words (or even be conscious long enough), so believers or families gather together to pray for the person. But thats in no way any close to Catholic saint intercession concept that I heard about.
The Bible is infallible, but was written by sinners. It was only their writing of scripture that through the Holy Spirit was infallible. This works the same way in the Church. The magisterium is made up of sinners, but in specific instances through the Holy Spirit their teachings are infallible. Don't leave Catholicism please! I would recommend Shameless Popery on youtube to answer your questions.
When I first took this test 3 weeks ago, my top one was Baptist but then when I took it again 5 days ago after having watched Presbyterian, Lutheran, and Anglican videos for weeks, it shows Presbyterian as my top result. Also don't feel bad about getting the 3 body movement result, I also got that as one of them :X
16:19 So "Joyful, Joyful we Adore Thee" is out? (Though arguably, if you look at Beethoven's original German lyrics for the 9th Symphony, that particular segment is literally a pagan hymn to the concept of joy, so it might be argued that the piece itself is unsuited to Christian worship even if the style is fine).
The Three Self Patriotic Movement is such a high percentage because the quiz only lists answers to a few questions for it and they're answers that most Protestants would agree on, except for the one about who should govern the church.
I fall almost completely under the reformed category, but the one thing I don't understand is Baptism through sprinkling, or pouring. I grew up in a Baptist church, and so baptism by immersion, and baptism for believers only, not for infants, has always been the norm for me. Would someone be kind enough to explain for me? Thanks!
I think the quiz is a bit wonky, it said I scored highest for the Three-Self Patriotic Movement, which is weird and hilarious since I’m not a Chinese communist, although I think it’s easy to get that denomination since it’s a fairly generic Protestant denomination that is simply a tool by the CCP to get a foothold on Christianity, so I think that it needs to be removed from the quiz. The next highest score I got was Calvary Chapel, which makes sense, since I’m a Mike Winger fan lol. When it comes to music, I care less about musical style, and more about whether the music is of a good theology and is actually glorifying God. And I dont have many strong opinions on eschatology as of yet.
LOL - You're more JW than me. Of course, I'm an LCMS Lutheran and you're also a couple % more Lutheran than me, which is odd, but I did have to skip a few questions because none of the answers were right, while you chose the closest. My results had Lutheran, Reformed, and Presbyterian all over 60%, but Baptist was weirdly, unsettlingly high, despite my multiple answers that would exclude me from that theology. It's not a bad quiz, but the fact that the answers aren't weighted in any way makes it have a high margin of error, I think. Still, it was fairly fun.
From the Catholic perspective, some of these are imprecise. How is one saved? It really depends on the circumstances, so we have to go with the assumption of an intellectually capable person with a normal lifespan who is reasonably exposed to the gospel. Losing salvation: apostasy is a grave sin (which could be mortal), so that option is a little redundant. Can Christians become sinless in mortal life? Yes, several ways. You become sinless at the moment of baptism and after making a good confession, since your sins are forgiven. But I assume that it means whether it's possible for a Christian to perfectly keep the moral law. Trent anathematized the idea "that the commandments of God are, even for one that is justified and constituted in grace, impossible to keep." So I have to say that yes, with grace it is possible for a Christian to stop sinning, but I don't know how probable this is in practice. On spiritual gifts: I don't agree with either of these; the second is clearly wrong but the first makes it seem like we can choose from all the gifts. They're gifts, so they aren't "available" to anyone but given to whomever and whenever God pleases, for his own purposes. Requirements for clergy: the only ontological requirement is that clergy must be validly ordained, which means they must be men and ordained by a bishop (or duly authorized replacement) who intends to ordain them. 1 Timothy 3 is binding on the bishop doing the selection and ordination. He is bound to consider the factors listed, but if he chose contrary to that passage it wouldn't invalidate the ordination. In other words, it would make a bad cleric, but it would still make a cleric. The last two options I assume are the current legal requirements of some Catholic and/or Orthodox churches, but these are subject to change or dispensation and therefore are not hard requirements. On sacraments: several of the lists of seven are just different names for the same thing. As a Roman Catholic in the 21st century I have one set of names I'm most familiar with, but would be equally accepting of three of these choices. Thus this seems to be a test of where I came from, not what I think is correct. Confession: one of these is a precept of the Church and is thus a bare minimum of normal life, but it's equally true that "general sinfulness should" be brought to the sacrament. One could also read "confession should be made to God before a priest" as true because that is also what a penitent is doing. On the day of worship: all of these are incorrect. In the sacrificial sense of the word, there is worship every day of the year except Good Friday. It's just that the faithful in general are only required to attend the worship associated with each Sunday. But even "Sunday" isn't correct since it leaves out other holy days. On the permissibility of divorce: divorce is sometimes necessary, and therefore permissible. It just doesn't do anything to the spouses' eligibility to marry. On the beginning of life: as far as I know, conception and fertilization are the same thing.
Quaker might make sense if your coworker holds certain beliefs- historically they were decently progressive (at least in terms of being anti-slavery and racism, as well as being pro-religious tolerance) as far as I can remember
@@headphonesaxolotl Important context is that religious tolerance at that time referred 99% to just Christian denominations bc other religions didn't exactly exist in America to any real extent. Also they were mostly just supporting that so they would stop being sold into slavery and executed in New England by Puritan's.
18:55 Time is known scientifically to be part of the physical world (and I believe this was generally the position of the Church before Einstein, though I'm not sure scripture really says one way or another) and souls are generally agreed not to be part of the physical world, so I'm not sure that the question, or any of the answers, is well formed to begin with.
so Romans is a joke? all have fallen short. that means everyone. The Bible also talks about Jesus feeding the 5,000. No record of them sinning. were they sinless too?
For future episodes can you state which one you are selecting? I like to listen to your videos when I’m at work and I can’t always watch so that would help. Having said that I love your channel and greatly enjoy your work. Thanks!
12:24 I would love a video when you are explaining modern scientific concepts through theology lens and how you can make it work together, not against each other.
I disagree with his view of "evolution" though, unless he meant micro-evolution. If he meant our ancestor was goop that became fish that eventually walk the earth, then hell no. That means our lineage requires so much death, and God saying what He made "were all beautiful".
I'm Calvary Chapel, Reformed, Presbyterian, Three-self patriotic movement according to this survey. My lowest scores were Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Catholic, Mormon. I think it's pretty accurate as far as what I believe. In real life, I'm a Baptist missionary working in a country that is half Muslim half Eastern Orthodox under the authority of a local church that is mostly Pentecostal and Methodist in its background.
I think an important thing to note about the inerrancy question his the wording, the question asks if the Bible was WRITTEN without error. I would take this to be referring to the original copies or the autographs. When originally written it was without error, but minor things such as the chronicles and kings passage referenced.
“But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.” 1 Corinthians 11:5-7
I asked ChatGPT which denomination of would choose if it were human. At first it gave me a politically correct non-answer so I interrupted it and said “No. I want to hear what you would pick. I’m just curious.” And this was its response: If I were a human and had to choose a Christian denomination, I would consider the following aspects to make an informed decision: 1. Theological Beliefs: Which theological interpretations resonate most closely with my understanding of Christianity? 2. Worship Style: Do I prefer liturgical, traditional, or contemporary worship services? 3. Community: How important is a sense of community and support within the congregation? 4. Social Engagement: How does the denomination engage with social issues and community service? Based on a hypothetical scenario where these factors are important to me, I might choose the Episcopal Church. Here’s why: 1. Balanced Theology: The Episcopal Church offers a middle way (via media) between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, embracing both the Catholic sacramental tradition and the Reformation’s emphasis on scripture. 2. Inclusive Worship: Its liturgical worship is rich and meaningful, with a structured but flexible approach that can accommodate various preferences. 3. Social Justice: The Episcopal Church is known for its strong stance on social justice issues, advocating for equality and inclusivity. 4. Community Focus: It places a high value on community life, fostering a welcoming and supportive environment for diverse individuals. This choice reflects a balance of tradition, inclusivity, and social engagement, which might appeal to someone looking for a denomination that combines these elements.
After taking this, I got Methodist and Baptist as the highest, and Mormon and Oriental Orthodox as the lowest. I mean... most of the churches I grew up going to weren't really a specific denomination (which in Texas means "Baptist lite.)
I'm a Methodist pastor and got Methodist. I've been entertaining orthodoxy recently and my three lowest were EO, OO, and Catholic (not counting Mormon as Christian obviously) so this was interesting. I am closer to a lot of these than I thought.
"Mennonite - weird" 😂 I agree that the test is accurate. My top three were Mennonite, Church of Christ and Amish. My lowest four were Mormon, Three-Self Patriotic Movement, Lutheran and Catholic. I think anyone who isn't a Mormon will get the lowest score for Mormon, because the Mormon answers are so specifically different.
I came back with Calvary Chapel at the top and Catholic at the bottom, which is pretty accurate for me. (Just watched to the end and lol to his reaction to Calvary Chapel! 😂) I had never heard of the "3 self patriotic movement," and I'm surprised the quiz included some cults. I'm VERY curious which denomination the quiz creator belongs to bc some of those questions and answer options were odd.
For the record, I feel like this quiz may not exactly be accurate, especially with Baptists being high, since not all theology is treated equally. Baptists have that whole unique process of baptizing, which is generally one of the cornerstones of the ideology, yet I would assume this quiz only counts that one as maybe swaying 3% of the Baptist bar. Math like this tends to screw it up.
@@g.williams2047Yeah. I also think there should have been an option to choose "Baptism is acceptable by sprinkling, pouring, or dunking, but there is really no reason not to do dunking and it is more accurate to the Bible so do that, silly"
I noticed that the affinities are not based on an even distribution of questions, since some denominations get way more questions attributed to them, say 40, while others only get like 10-15. So of course this throws things off a bit because if you choose less 'correct' answers for one denomination than another but it's higher percentage wise the survey assigns you affinity towards that one more.
Took the quiz, and we basically agree with almost everything except rapture, how church should be set up, tribulation, and millennial reign… I’m a Baptist😂. You actually had a lot of Baptist beliefs I think you weren’t aware of.
I've been a Protestant (mainly attended Anglican and Pentecostal churches) all my life, but in the quiz I got my top 3 being Eastern Orthodox, Messianic Judaism (I'm not Jewish at all) and Anglican. I think I'd find myself gravitating to be an Anglo-Catholic or an Orthodox. 😂😂 Just need to hash out a few doctrinal differences with them.
I think hair length is a cultural thing. I remember Paul mentioned that chriatians should follow cultural customs when it comes to clothing, specifically relating to married people looking promiscuous.
My scores are are Catholic at 74%, Anglican at 48%, and Eastern Orthodox at 46%, Calvary Chapel at 38%, Lutheran at 38%, Three-Self Patriotic Movement at 37%, Oriental Orthodox at 35%, Mennonite at 35%, Methodist at 35%, Presbyterian at 34%, Reformed at 33%, Seventh-Day Adventist at 32%, Pentecostal at 30%, Amish at 30%, The Salvation Army at 30%, Baptist at 28%, Church of Christ at 27%, Quaker at 27%, New Apostolic Church at 26%, Messianic Judaism at 24%, Mormon at 24%, and Jehovah's Witnesses at 23%. I know this list will definitely make some people mad so here's a message for you. I believe in one God, the Father almighty, Creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, His only Son our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; He descended into hell, and on the 3rd day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.
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Thank you RZ for making Protestant videos that convert people to Catholicism faster than any actual Catholic YTr I’ve seen
Likewise, it's great of you to recognise what's commonly called 'Protestantism' as true Catholicism. That is indeed its purpose - conversion to the catholic faith of the Gospel.
it nailed me as a Baptist, but it also put me in the CCP church. They need more questions to separate the CCP and the Baptist church. They believe in sprinkling baptism and a church ran by the CCP. Baptist are hardcore on Church Autonomy and the separation of Church and State.
@@anangrytexan2244 I think it's based on how many questions you agree with a denomination over. Since the CCP one has way fewer questions, a Baptist or likeminded is going to end up pretty similar to them.
My top 5 were Methodist (73%), Presbyterian (72%), Lutheran, Anglican and Reformed. My bottom 3 were Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and finally Oriental orthodox. Baptism was quite low too. I’m a better reformed Christian than redeemed zoomer
As to how the Three-Self Patriotic Movement was my third and somehow Calvary Chapel was above Baptist which is what I am 😂 Mormon was dead last on my list thank God.
I wonder if this quiz was sponsored by the CCP as it leans heavily toward the "three self-patriotic movements". My beliefs are more closely aligned with Baptist and Pentecostal although I am not a fan of a lot of the modern "worship music" and I have some questions about the dominations' Eschatology. Mine showed Presbyterian as being second with all other denominations leveling out and then dropping offstarting with Quaker, JW, Mormon, & Catholic.
yeah i bet the communist party of china sponsored this random ass online quiz with 300 daily clicks in order to convert the christians of the world to their nation exclusive denomination
My score: (I will only include main denominations) Methodist -> Lutheran -> Reformed -> Baptist -> Pentecostal -> Anglican -> Catholic -> Orthodox -> Oriental I'm a bit surprised. I think I need to learn more about that Wesley guy
Now i want a video "Why i'm not a Three-Self Patriotic movement"
We need this now, Zoomer! Please 🙏
Ditto
Yes
Bruh I got this answer despite being a Lutheran 😢 Where did my life go wrong
@@johns123can you give a link to the quizz?
You can tell which answers will get you Mormonism because they're all hyperspecific and odd.
Almost like they aren't Christian
@@ninjason57 real
Same with Messianic Judaism and Jehovah’s Witnesses
@@ninjason57 If Mormons are the unofficial, questionable-quality fangame that some think is canon for some reason, Jehovah's Witnesses are the App Store rip off.
Except for the CCP ones
I was waiting for the CCP answer💀 it’s called the Three-Self Patriotic Movement and it’s controlled by the Chinese government
Redeemed Zoomer is China Pilled??? Based
lol that was my 4th highest
It was my highest 😮
@@Dram1984 Found the Chinese spy...
@@Dram1984 same🤔 although i bet i put some answers in wrong😅
Why I Am Not a Three Self Patriotic Christian video when
How is he closer to Jehovah's Witness than Catholicism 💀
💀
This made me laugh so hard
I mean it’s “Protestant” and there were probably more Catholic questions that he didn’t choose
he is protestant, JW emerge from protestantism , its twisted version (JW) of protestantism
@@NguyenzanderJWs are not Protestant lol
Redeemed Zoomer saying 'That's Heresy!' is classic.
He should eventually make mugs with that!
Catholic 🇻🇦
@@niccolopaganini1782 "That's heresy!" merch would be fire ngl
He needs to reach for his bolter every time he says it.
@@matthewvanburen6415 🇻🇦
The problem with this quiz is that it ranks the denominations based on how many individual issues you agree with them on, without weighting each issue based on how important they are. I'm a Baptist and the quiz said that I was most similar to the Chinese communist denomination.
Because if the Chinese church is accurate, they are biblically sound. The only thing they do wrong is get run by the ccp. Their beliefs align with baptists according to this quiz
I'm a Baptist too and I also got the Chinese denomination, followed by Presbyterian.
If you're living in California it will be easy for you to convert.
I got the CCP deno too, followed by Methodist and Baptist. Baptist lines up since a lot of the churches I grew up with were non-denominational, which usually means "Baptist lite."
Haven't looked into that one (For obvious reasons, I do not follow that denomination) but it's weird how it seems to be similar enough to Baptists that it keeps giving Baptists/Baptist-leaning people that result.
Same here.
I think this whole quiz is an advert for the 3-self patriotic movement, because it was second for me and I’m Methodist. 🤷♂️
you jest, but the CCP's soft-power projection online is insane these days.
我认为也许可以这么解释：三自爱国教会虽然在教会组织方面和其他教会大相径庭，但是在具体的神学实践方面却和每个教派都有十分接近之处。
The 3-self patriotic movement only has 15 questions, so if you answer one of those correctly the fraction always ends up being higher, because it's generally basic fundamentals of Protestantism.
yeah, it kept coming up as my denomination 😭 I’m Lutheran…
I was tryna figure out what denomination I am most like cuz I haven’t decided and I got Pentecostal but I had like no clue on what some of the questions asked
“It’s not bad because it’s contemporary. It’s bad because it’s bad.”
Hear, hear! I too can play the same 4 major chords with a random minor or 7 chord thrown in but not too often lest the people get too wild.
#blessed to have a beautiful and huge pipe organ with a true master at the helm in my church. Something about having my internals vibrated during the hymns helps me feel so much more connected in worship. 😅
Organs are sick, dude. Respect. God bless you on your worship
I tried hard not to give answers that I know I should as a Catholic and answered honestly what I think, but still got 100% Catholic
Well that goes to show you’re probably a genuine Catholic
Yea because how Catholicism works you kinda have to be 100% Catholic to be Catholic lmao
I got only 83% Catholic but when I checked the answer sheet there were some curveballs especially:
1. Clergy - I answered above the age of 30 and ordained since technically unmarried priests is Latin Church discipline and can be changed. Eastern Catholics have married priests.
2. Inerrancy - The Bible is considered inerrant so the answer No, but only on matters of salvation threw me off since I'd have answered yes, but lol.
3. Baptism - though traditionally done by pouring, the Church allows immersion as well. The only requirement is that the water must flow on the person.
I was especially confused when it said that Catholic Church teaches that the universe was started by the “Big Bang” since the Church has never definitively stated the exact way the universe was made
@@raphaelledesma9393i was hesitant to answer unmarried bc the one “loophole” is if you’re married within another denomination and then become ordained upon conversion to Catholicism. Ig you’re technically not married, you just take care of your former spouse, but it’s not divorce either because you’re still married by law
Every Christian youtuber should take a quiz like this to clearly and concisely express their beliefs to the viewer.
Not to see the results of the quiz, but to see their answers to the questions.
I'm Muslim I would get 0% of everything
@@cx9082 Ew, get away from that nasty religion
Who asked?
Yes every genre fof TH-camr because for funny
Apparently I’m a three self patriotic movement.
I think this mostly happens because so few of their beliefs are listed, so if you agree with basic characteristics of Christianity you get about 67% in common with them
I mean yeah, they’re basically just a Potemkin church that solely exists to give the illusion of religous freedom while being monitored for “seditious behavior”. They can only have the most barebones teachings or risk being sent to labor camps
Why are sprinkling and pouring ideal modes in your view? The Didache encourages immersion if it’s possible and pouring if it’s not, immersion was practiced for much of the Middle Ages, and Calvin said it was the ancient practice of the Church. I’m willing to cede that pouring and sprinkling can be valid, but history and Scripture suggest that immersion is ideal.
Yeah this confused me as well. Maybe in the context of babies non immersion is preferable but otherwise the biblical instances of baptism are immersion.
Not even talking about the elephant in the room that the word baptism comes from the Greek word "baptizo" which means immersion, and that sprinkling and pouring for baptism are found no where in the Bible.
Asking a reformed person why they pick and choose what to take out of the Bible. Lol
I agree that immersion is a better symbol of what baptism does, but would vigorously reject any suggestion that there is a difference in the effect.
@@getgnomed6179 It also has other meanings such as washing and pouring. There are many instances in Scripture where that word is used and couldn't possibly mean to immerse, such as the Pharisees washing tables. Paul's baptism isn't likely to have been immersion since it never states they left the house. Also, imagine the 3,000 at Pentecost being immersed; did they go miles out of their way to find a river? Never says that. You're inserting your theology into the text.
The Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM; Chinese: 三自爱国运动; pinyin: Sānzì Àiguó Yùndòng) is the official government supervisory organ for Protestantism in the People's Republic of China. It is colloquially known as the Three-Self Church (Chinese: 三自教会; pinyin: Sānzì Jiàohuì).
From Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia.
谢谢您科普，虽然我已经很熟了😂
35% Eastern Orthodox, we have a chance bros
May he come around.
Catholic 🇻🇦
@@CozyButcherCatholic 🇻🇦
Indeed!
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II Catholic 🇻🇦
Fun video! I took the quiz along with you. As a southerner + Baptist (more than anything else, at least), I get a kick out of your Baptist comments. I agree with many of your takes, but not surprised it ranked pretty high. You actually agree with my beliefs more than you may think! If you're ever in Nashville I'd love to invite you to my church. Great vid, God bless.
i was watching one of your videos and now a new one! !! happyness
I would love a video about modes of water Baptism. I consider myself Presbyterian but one thing I still don't understand is why we baptize by sprinkling or pouring, instead of immersion. I heard somewhere "baptism" is literally drieved from a word like "immersion," which is what confuses me. Unless it's a symbolic term, like being "baptized" and immersed by the Holy Spirit?
Love your channel, helped me align with a denomination. Much love and God bless.
Read the Didache
The Early Church shows SLIGHT preference for immersion, but the Didache makes it clear that something that’s just not practical, and that in this case it’s no big deal and sprinkling is fine. Seems pretty settled to me!
IDK how it is in the Presbyterian Church but Catholic Canon Law states that pouring and immersion are acceptable. All three were used in Church history depending on practicality. According to the current Canon Law, baptism should be conferred by immersion or pouring. Is sprinkling considered invalid? It should be noted the previous 1917 Canon Law allowed sprinkling. One canonist argued that pouring and immersion are the only 2 ways that baptism should be celebrated now but that sprinkling is still valid (especially important when evaluating Protestant converts who received baptism by sprinkling like yourself).
IIRC sprinkling and pouring signify the sprinkling of blood on the alter and the pouring out of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost respectively.
@@fighterofthenightman1057 re-read the Didache. It gives pouring as an option, but definitely not sprinkling. Lutherans, Anglicans, Catholics...none of us baptize by sprinkling because it's not a part of the received tradition.
Took the quiz before watching this. I got Messianic Judaism as my closest match, followed by Calvary Chapel and then Baptist. I'm satisfied with that!
Sounds like you and I might have some things in common.
Calvary chapel was my closest match at 84%
I got CCP at 83%, Cavalry chapel, and then Baptist. I'm southern Baptist so the last 2 makes sense but why the CCP 😂
@@geochonker9052 Because though the three self church is different from most churches in organization form, but its Theological perspectives and practices are very close to a lot of Protestant traditions… Don’t ask why I know these, I am Chinese 💀
Why is sprinkling or pouring the “most ideal” form of baptism when the only form of baptism in the Bible is immersion? Genuine question.
Yeah im confused on some of his takes. Some of his quick answers is biblically well supported, and some are weird like the baptism and pre-destination. I wish he would expound on those instead of some other questions.
there are physical limitations that could prevent immersion.
fortunately water baptism doesn't save
@@justapilgrimgoinhome thats not what we are discussing. We are discussing why RZ thinks sprinkling or pouring is "most ideal" compared to immersion that is made as example in the bible.
@@justapilgrimgoinhome The way he speaks of it assumes that it's your average person in an average situation. It's a very strange that sprinkling/pouring is ideal when every situation in the Bible involving baptism is total immersion. Like you said of course baptism doesn't matter at all, but it's still a strange POV of his.
the word which was translated to baptism means to cover or to pour which is why all modes are vial
I really missed a third option in the "Who gets saved" section. Namely that there is both predestination and free will and how both work together is a mystery. That is the view of the union of lutheran and reformed churches in Europe who signed the Leuenberg Agreement. Which are over 100 church entities. (Not individual churches. I mean like the EKD which is the Evangelical Church of Germany and it's state sub-branches, or the Church of Scotland, Church of Norway etc.) Even the Presbyterians in Ireland and Wales signed this. I have a feeling, that this quiz is a little USA centric :D
This view acknowledges, that there is biblical evidence for both free will and predestination. (A fact) Just because something is too high for our human minds to understand, doesn't mean that it's not real. Like the trinity. We are unitary beings, we can't understand trinity, we can only accept how god described himself to us. Same applies to free will and predestination. Not everything can be logically explained so a human mind can fully comprehend this. God is above human understanding. If he says "I choose people to be saved" but at other times says "you can still say no" then that is how it is.
Yeah and im a bit surprised he took the pre-destination option. So apparently Abraham negotiating with God for Sodom and Gomorra is useless because God decides if those cities will have someone righteous or not? Or how Judas is destined to be in hell, not simply destined to do Satan plan, and having chance to redeem himself just like Peter denying Jesus (but unfortunately Judas failed to the unalive whispers).
@@Crustee0Why would you be surprised REFORMED Zoomer picked Predestination? He’s reformed and Presbyterian which is where Calvinism comes from.
Also unless you learned about predestination from a non predestination having person, it’s a lot more nuanced of a stance then you seem to understand.
@@masonmcgahey7fair enough, but like Dsingis said, most of the continental reformed churches (and those in the UK, including the Presbyterians in Wales and the COS) have come to the conclusion that predestination is ultimately a mystery as to who is actually part of the elect. We can make a good guess by someone’s outward fruits (faith in Christ, a life lead by the Spirit and God’s word, modesty and contentment), but God in His wisdom and love alone has foreknown and foreordained those who will be in His Kingdom. “The witness of the Scriptures to Christ forbids us to suppose that God has uttered an eternal decree for the final condemnation of specific individuals or of a particular people.” (Leuenberg Agreement, 25). We simply cannot know who or how God has chosen them, but we can say for a fact that Christ has commanded us to preach to all nations.
TL;DR: you’re right there is nuance, and it’s nuance that once properly explained makes the gap between Arminianism and Calvinism seem far less wide. Whether acceptance of Christ is a result of election or the cause of it, God’s People are called out
@@masonmcgahey7 im not that well-versed in theology and what most branch of the church believes in. I had assumed from his videos that he wouldnt believe in pre-destination, because I feel the concept ultimately cripples people motivation to go and spread the Gospel. It will always haunt your mind, going "well, the elect will be saved anyway I can take it easier". I know its probably more nuanced than that, but thats just what I thought about RZ.
@@Crustee0 I just want to clarify every branch of Christianity believes in a form of “predestination”. It’s in scripture. It’s about how we define it. Usually the predestination vs free will debate is more in terms of Augustinian/Thomist/Calvinist predestination vs Armininian and Molanist views on predestination. Or sovereignty vs free will/ free agency.
It is more nuanced then that. I don’t believe predestination cripples the gospel nor the spread of the gospel. The argument of worrying about being in the elect can be flipped. I could say that those who lean more towards free will (over free agency) could be crippled by legalism and constantly worrying if they are doing enough or if they will choose in the future to leave the church through being misguided. That would be a straw man.
I encourage you to study positions you disagree with earnestly. I’m of a Reformed systematic theology and I still enjoy traditions and theologies that are outside of mine.
RZ, the "I don't care" answer for head coverings is the first one: "no.. no longer required". Assuming by "I don't care" you're really saying "it doesn't matter", because "I don't care" isn't really a good way to answer any question about appropriate Christian behavior. The only correct answer that can be directly linked to scripture is "yes, whenever praying or teaching". "Long hair is the covering" implies that women who are undergoing treatment that causes them to lose their hair cannot pray or teach in church.
to be fair there is already a broader biblical prohibition towards women teaching in church...
@@matthewsteininger2741 I think the question in the quiz is worded a bit weirdly (perhaps to address the potential confusion of what "prophecy" means in modern times), but women aren't prohibited entirely from teaching in the church -- see Titus 2, where older women are charged to teach younger women to love and submit to their husbands, love their children, and tend to the home. But yes, I agree that there is a general prohibition of women holding authority or teaching over men in the church (1 Timothy 2; 1 Corinthians 14)
I would have liked a simple option to say "Yes, when praying or prophesying". Where did they get the idea to instead list "Yes, when praying or teaching instead of a man"? I mean, they could list both, if there's a denomination that goes very specifically beyond scripture in that way, but a simple quotation of what 1st Corinthians 11 says will apply to most denominations that still practice headcovering today.
@@tehZevo_also, the test specifically said "teaching instead of men". Last time I checked, that's not the biblical definition of prophesy. Whatever prophesy is, there is no indication that it is to be practiced exclusively by men. In the context of the church service, yes, women are to be silent. But church life is more than just an hour or two every Sunday.
If the quizz isn't accurate enough, why no try to make one yourself ? You have the knowmedge to probably make quite a good one, as long as you try to remain as neutral as possible while making it
He knows a lot, but one thing he doesn't really understand at all is Seventh-day Adventist beliefs. I can tell whenever he makes a comment about it that he hasn't ever really looked into them. If Ready to Harvest made a denominations quiz I'm confident it would be trustworthy.
@@brianwhite2104 Good call yeah. Anyway it'd be nice for someone who's really knowledgeable to do a proper quizz, be it RTH or RZ.
@@Indivus I agree.
@@brianwhite2104 I don't have the 8 hours a rth quiz would take
@@PieMaster2425 Haha
“Christ’s body is not psychially joined in the elements”
That is heresy!
We cannot say that!
Brother atraous give me the heavy flamer
why did i get Three self patriotic??? 😭😂
Congratulation! You now faithful follower of eternal jade leader XI! Report to nearest compoud of glorious CCP control to recieve social credit increase, 2th bowl of rice and feline-woman wife! Glory to Mao!
I got Messianic Jew 💀💀
Bro just said immersion would still be valid as if that wasn’t the primary way the church has baptized for millennia
ATTENTION RECONQUISTA BROTHERS!!! I have recently been to First Presbyterian Church in Madisonville Kentucky. Ive found it has a female pastor, and is not on reconquista map!!!! It is PCUSA. Found it on way to florida for college ministry program, as we are staying the night there
It is PCUSA
Attention WHO?
It would be cool for you to make your own! I’d be super curious to see how you’d structure such a quiz.
Genuinely lol'ed at the thought of gangsta rap at church. Keep up the good work my friend.
Redeemed Zomer when you mentioned the question about traditions and sacred scriptures i recalled a verse i don't remember which one but its in the new testament and it's say "Stand firm to our traditions either by letter or by mouth"or something like that and if a tradition is in the Bible it's equal to the Bible (from a Sola Scriptura point of view) because its in the Bible, and if the Bible mention oral traditions by the apostles then sacred traditions or equal to sacred scripture and neither can ba above the other and there are traditions from the apostles in the Bible rz God bless you brother in Christ and may you have a blessed week bro 🙏
No. In Mark Jesus directly condemns the Pharisees for teaching tradition as if it was scripture. Mark 7:5-15. its literally all of Jesus' confrontations with the Pharisees. Murder is in the Bible but it obviously is sin because the Bible calls it sin. Just cause something is in the Bible doesn't make it biblical. Its biblical if the Bible says its biblical.
13:43 Hope you and your soon-to-be wife have a happy and blessed marriage! God bless!
Wow I wonder which denomination he is
He’s Presbyterian
Definitely betting on Three-Self Patriotic Movement
He must be a Mormon, it's the only logical conclusion based on some of his recent videos.
@@-cosmicdoggo- r/wooosh
Prob a Buddhist
The second temple Jews had icons. It wasn’t until the Muslims began influencing eastern Christians that iconoclasm gained support amongst some (mostly eastern) Christians.
Some church fathers were aniconicists. Some were iconodules. None were iconoclasts.
Loved the LutheranSatire reference Patrick!
8:00 you say the early church had a presbyterian government. Could you put some resources or maybe do a video on that? I'm genuinely curious.
Thanks bro!
Yeah don't agree with that I'm not really into denominational arguments
Me and my friends literally just took this and I got catholic, my friends got Eastern Orthodox, Messianic Judaism, and the three-self patriotic movement
I can’t believe the first question starts with the first answer being a Mormon doctrine 😅
I laughed when Zoomer instantly realized that it was Mormon😂
Anyways keep up the good work and I hope that you continue making content such as this.
-Probably our least favorite type of Christian, a Mormon
9:13 we are refouding real Christianity whit this one!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got the Three-Self Patriotic Movement, never heard of them and from what I can find about them is nothing short but not much.
Congratulations, that means you will now accept the Communist Party of China as final authority on all things theological 🎉
I used to go to TSPM churches when I lived in China. Each one was different, more or less based on the foreign denomination that owned the church before they became TSPM.
They are CCP owned and operated
This quiz from my experience isn't effective in describing Lutheran Theology as well as it could.
As a Lutheran this quiz made me confused what 'Lutherans' believe, because I often thought "I agree with all (most) of these," or "none of these are that accurate."
@@JamesIronhawk I agree, they get wrong how we baptize, communion and what happens, the sacraments (being only two and not three), fail to mention hymns, ignore the lutheran alternative to covenant theology, and many other elements.
@@CalebMaSmithwhich are the three sacraments? I wanna know how luterans see it
@@estebannrivero The three sacraments are Baptism, Communion, and Confession/Absolution. Confession/Absolution is debated among some Lutherans as to whether or not it should be considered a sacrament.
Since the word sacrament itself is not in the bible, we and other denominations are free to define sacrament as we desire. The Lutheran prerequisites for something to be a sacrament are as follows: They have to be instituted directly by Jesus, include a physical element, and give a promise of grace.
One of the key ideas of the Lutheran faith is how strongly we emphasize faith and how we view faith and righteousness as something that is outside of us. Sacraments have real benefits to partaking in and do have the promise of grace, but there is a beautiful metaphor there as well.
I would love to see a video about you explaining how you merge Christian faith with scientific discoveries or science’s explanations!!
As a Lutheran I got Lutheran,Presbyterian, Reformed, and then the THREE SELF PATRIOT MOVEMENT
RZ did not, in fact, put the link to the quiz in the description
9:20 Yes they do have access. But some websites are blocked in their country, including TH-cam. It's also one of the few countries that doesn't have Netflix.
I'm a Calvary guy, though I diverge from some minor doctrinal points in the Calvary movement. I scored #1 in Three Self Patriotic Movement, then #2 in Calvary Chapel. It caused me to go down a rabbit trail of finding out about this Communist Chinese denomination, and surprisingly I can’t find a ton reliable info on them. Would love to see a video on them.
I got Anglican, followed by Methodist and Lutheran. On a “What type of Anglican are you” quiz I got Tractarian.
Been struggling with my Catholic faith for a while now. This is mainly due to the idea of the Papacy and The Bible being more infallible than the Seat of Peter because of how many times the Popes in the past and present have really twisted the faith in some minor and major aspects.
I actually took this quiz last week and got Anglican @_@
The idea of intercession in praying, specifically through known dead people just weird me out the more I think about it. I have heard some Catholic arguments about it, but it basically boils down to "Mary (or some other saints) is close to Jesus, thats like asking your friend's mother to ask for your friend favor". Im like, WELL God is eternally unchanging, so why would Mary (or any saints) have a say in this??? Why not directly ask God?
I can get the concept of intercession in case of very sick person wanting to pray but not having the strength to utter words (or even be conscious long enough), so believers or families gather together to pray for the person. But thats in no way any close to Catholic saint intercession concept that I heard about.
The Bible is infallible, but was written by sinners. It was only their writing of scripture that through the Holy Spirit was infallible. This works the same way in the Church. The magisterium is made up of sinners, but in specific instances through the Holy Spirit their teachings are infallible.
Don't leave Catholicism please! I would recommend Shameless Popery on youtube to answer your questions.
When I first took this test 3 weeks ago, my top one was Baptist but then when I took it again 5 days ago after having watched Presbyterian, Lutheran, and Anglican videos for weeks, it shows Presbyterian as my top result.
Also don't feel bad about getting the 3 body movement result, I also got that as one of them :X
16:19 So "Joyful, Joyful we Adore Thee" is out? (Though arguably, if you look at Beethoven's original German lyrics for the 9th Symphony, that particular segment is literally a pagan hymn to the concept of joy, so it might be argued that the piece itself is unsuited to Christian worship even if the style is fine).
Raised Episcopalian, marrying a Catholic soon (My second marriage; divorced; unbaptized athiest ex-husband) and I got 50/50 Catholic/Anglican.
Congratulations
The Three Self Patriotic Movement is such a high percentage because the quiz only lists answers to a few questions for it and they're answers that most Protestants would agree on, except for the one about who should govern the church.
What the heck even is that!
I fall almost completely under the reformed category, but the one thing I don't understand is Baptism through sprinkling, or pouring. I grew up in a Baptist church, and so baptism by immersion, and baptism for believers only, not for infants, has always been the norm for me. Would someone be kind enough to explain for me? Thanks!
You are right. Explained!
“That’s heresy” haha that video is stuck in my head😂
I think the quiz is a bit wonky, it said I scored highest for the Three-Self Patriotic Movement, which is weird and hilarious since I’m not a Chinese communist, although I think it’s easy to get that denomination since it’s a fairly generic Protestant denomination that is simply a tool by the CCP to get a foothold on Christianity, so I think that it needs to be removed from the quiz. The next highest score I got was Calvary Chapel, which makes sense, since I’m a Mike Winger fan lol. When it comes to music, I care less about musical style, and more about whether the music is of a good theology and is actually glorifying God. And I dont have many strong opinions on eschatology as of yet.
Same. My third place was my actual denomination, Baptist.
DATS MODALISM, PATRICK!
LOL - You're more JW than me. Of course, I'm an LCMS Lutheran and you're also a couple % more Lutheran than me, which is odd, but I did have to skip a few questions because none of the answers were right, while you chose the closest.
My results had Lutheran, Reformed, and Presbyterian all over 60%, but Baptist was weirdly, unsettlingly high, despite my multiple answers that would exclude me from that theology.
It's not a bad quiz, but the fact that the answers aren't weighted in any way makes it have a high margin of error, I think. Still, it was fairly fun.
My brother got the result of the Three-Self Patriotic Movement. I have no idea what that is.
Did you notice conception and fertilization are different options to answer the question?
I see them as the same thing.
From the Catholic perspective, some of these are imprecise.
How is one saved? It really depends on the circumstances, so we have to go with the assumption of an intellectually capable person with a normal lifespan who is reasonably exposed to the gospel.
Losing salvation: apostasy is a grave sin (which could be mortal), so that option is a little redundant.
Can Christians become sinless in mortal life? Yes, several ways. You become sinless at the moment of baptism and after making a good confession, since your sins are forgiven. But I assume that it means whether it's possible for a Christian to perfectly keep the moral law. Trent anathematized the idea "that the commandments of God are, even for one that is justified and constituted in grace, impossible to keep." So I have to say that yes, with grace it is possible for a Christian to stop sinning, but I don't know how probable this is in practice.
On spiritual gifts: I don't agree with either of these; the second is clearly wrong but the first makes it seem like we can choose from all the gifts. They're gifts, so they aren't "available" to anyone but given to whomever and whenever God pleases, for his own purposes.
Requirements for clergy: the only ontological requirement is that clergy must be validly ordained, which means they must be men and ordained by a bishop (or duly authorized replacement) who intends to ordain them. 1 Timothy 3 is binding on the bishop doing the selection and ordination. He is bound to consider the factors listed, but if he chose contrary to that passage it wouldn't invalidate the ordination. In other words, it would make a bad cleric, but it would still make a cleric. The last two options I assume are the current legal requirements of some Catholic and/or Orthodox churches, but these are subject to change or dispensation and therefore are not hard requirements.
On sacraments: several of the lists of seven are just different names for the same thing. As a Roman Catholic in the 21st century I have one set of names I'm most familiar with, but would be equally accepting of three of these choices. Thus this seems to be a test of where I came from, not what I think is correct.
Confession: one of these is a precept of the Church and is thus a bare minimum of normal life, but it's equally true that "general sinfulness should" be brought to the sacrament. One could also read "confession should be made to God before a priest" as true because that is also what a penitent is doing.
On the day of worship: all of these are incorrect. In the sacrificial sense of the word, there is worship every day of the year except Good Friday. It's just that the faithful in general are only required to attend the worship associated with each Sunday. But even "Sunday" isn't correct since it leaves out other holy days.
On the permissibility of divorce: divorce is sometimes necessary, and therefore permissible. It just doesn't do anything to the spouses' eligibility to marry.
On the beginning of life: as far as I know, conception and fertilization are the same thing.
It perplexes me that you want to restore the mainline, but hold to so many positions that caused it to fall.
I took it and it said I’m 67% Reformed. An atheist coworker of mine took it as well and it said he was a Quaker.
Quaker might make sense if your coworker holds certain beliefs- historically they were decently progressive (at least in terms of being anti-slavery and racism, as well as being pro-religious tolerance) as far as I can remember
@@headphonesaxolotl Important context is that religious tolerance at that time referred 99% to just Christian denominations bc other religions didn't exactly exist in America to any real extent. Also they were mostly just supporting that so they would stop being sold into slavery and executed in New England by Puritan's.
18:55 Time is known scientifically to be part of the physical world (and I believe this was generally the position of the Church before Einstein, though I'm not sure scripture really says one way or another) and souls are generally agreed not to be part of the physical world, so I'm not sure that the question, or any of the answers, is well formed to begin with.
Saw your comment on TØP’s Newest song Zoomer :D
“No recorded examples of Mary sinning” wow it’s like she never did
Can you name an example of Joshua in the Bible sinning?
so Romans is a joke? all have fallen short. that means everyone. The Bible also talks about Jesus feeding the 5,000. No record of them sinning. were they sinless too?
3:15 Holy Sealing is one of the three sacraments of the Irvingian Church
For future episodes can you state which one you are selecting? I like to listen to your videos when I’m at work and I can’t always watch so that would help. Having said that I love your channel and greatly enjoy your work. Thanks!
There was an option "I don't care". It is possible to completely skip a question.
12:24 I would love a video when you are explaining modern scientific concepts through theology lens and how you can make it work together, not against each other.
I disagree with his view of "evolution" though, unless he meant micro-evolution. If he meant our ancestor was goop that became fish that eventually walk the earth, then hell no. That means our lineage requires so much death, and God saying what He made "were all beautiful".
@@Crustee0 He made a video on why he believe sin evolution so yes he believes in macro evolution
A lot of the weird ones were Mormon, not really sure why those choices were on the quiz
I somehow came out with reformed on top at 68%. I feel like I disagree with you on a lot of things, so wouldn’t be closed to reformed. Surprising.
I'm Calvary Chapel, Reformed, Presbyterian, Three-self patriotic movement according to this survey. My lowest scores were Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Catholic, Mormon.
I think it's pretty accurate as far as what I believe. In real life, I'm a Baptist missionary working in a country that is half Muslim half Eastern Orthodox under the authority of a local church that is mostly Pentecostal and Methodist in its background.
Let people in that country be Orthodox and be part of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostilic Church which is the Orthodox Church!
@@asentseto I wasn't aware I could stop them from being part of the Orthodox church.
I think an important thing to note about the inerrancy question his the wording, the question asks if the Bible was WRITTEN without error. I would take this to be referring to the original copies or the autographs. When originally written it was without error, but minor things such as the chronicles and kings passage referenced.
“But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.”
1 Corinthians 11:5-7
I asked ChatGPT which denomination of would choose if it were human. At first it gave me a politically correct non-answer so I interrupted it and said “No. I want to hear what you would pick. I’m just curious.” And this was its response:
If I were a human and had to choose a Christian denomination, I would consider the following aspects to make an informed decision:
1. Theological Beliefs: Which theological interpretations resonate most closely with my understanding of Christianity?
2. Worship Style: Do I prefer liturgical, traditional, or contemporary worship services?
3. Community: How important is a sense of community and support within the congregation?
4. Social Engagement: How does the denomination engage with social issues and community service?
Based on a hypothetical scenario where these factors are important to me, I might choose the Episcopal Church. Here’s why:
1. Balanced Theology: The Episcopal Church offers a middle way (via media) between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, embracing both the Catholic sacramental tradition and the Reformation’s emphasis on scripture.
2. Inclusive Worship: Its liturgical worship is rich and meaningful, with a structured but flexible approach that can accommodate various preferences.
3. Social Justice: The Episcopal Church is known for its strong stance on social justice issues, advocating for equality and inclusivity.
4. Community Focus: It places a high value on community life, fostering a welcoming and supportive environment for diverse individuals.
This choice reflects a balance of tradition, inclusivity, and social engagement, which might appeal to someone looking for a denomination that combines these elements.
So if you’re a woke, soulless machine…
After taking this, I got Methodist and Baptist as the highest, and Mormon and Oriental Orthodox as the lowest. I mean... most of the churches I grew up going to weren't really a specific denomination (which in Texas means "Baptist lite.)
I love how at the end he still wanted to specify his beef with orthodoxy 😂😂😂
No way he is the least mormon who could have thought that the non-christians in the list are the least like the christians
This was so funny to watch him be like "There is no correct answer to this question" When it was a stupid question.
I'm a Methodist pastor and got Methodist. I've been entertaining orthodoxy recently and my three lowest were EO, OO, and Catholic (not counting Mormon as Christian obviously) so this was interesting. I am closer to a lot of these than I thought.
"Mennonite - weird" 😂
I agree that the test is accurate. My top three were Mennonite, Church of Christ and Amish. My lowest four were Mormon, Three-Self Patriotic Movement, Lutheran and Catholic. I think anyone who isn't a Mormon will get the lowest score for Mormon, because the Mormon answers are so specifically different.
I came back with Calvary Chapel at the top and Catholic at the bottom, which is pretty accurate for me. (Just watched to the end and lol to his reaction to Calvary Chapel! 😂)
I had never heard of the "3 self patriotic movement," and I'm surprised the quiz included some cults. I'm VERY curious which denomination the quiz creator belongs to bc some of those questions and answer options were odd.
If John Calvin had been at NIcaea, he would have gotten slapped by Santa Claus.
For the record, I feel like this quiz may not exactly be accurate, especially with Baptists being high, since not all theology is treated equally. Baptists have that whole unique process of baptizing, which is generally one of the cornerstones of the ideology, yet I would assume this quiz only counts that one as maybe swaying 3% of the Baptist bar.
Math like this tends to screw it up.
Yes, Baptism being for believers only and without any impact on your salvation should be a much higher percentage value.
@@g.williams2047Yeah. I also think there should have been an option to choose "Baptism is acceptable by sprinkling, pouring, or dunking, but there is really no reason not to do dunking and it is more accurate to the Bible so do that, silly"
I noticed that the affinities are not based on an even distribution of questions, since some denominations get way more questions attributed to them, say 40, while others only get like 10-15. So of course this throws things off a bit because if you choose less 'correct' answers for one denomination than another but it's higher percentage wise the survey assigns you affinity towards that one more.
Took the quiz, and we basically agree with almost everything except rapture, how church should be set up, tribulation, and millennial reign… I’m a Baptist😂. You actually had a lot of Baptist beliefs I think you weren’t aware of.
I've been a Protestant (mainly attended Anglican and Pentecostal churches) all my life, but in the quiz I got my top 3 being Eastern Orthodox, Messianic Judaism (I'm not Jewish at all) and Anglican.
I think I'd find myself gravitating to be an Anglo-Catholic or an Orthodox. 😂😂 Just need to hash out a few doctrinal differences with them.
I think hair length is a cultural thing. I remember Paul mentioned that chriatians should follow cultural customs when it comes to clothing, specifically relating to married people looking promiscuous.
My scores are are Catholic at 74%, Anglican at 48%, and Eastern Orthodox at 46%, Calvary Chapel at 38%, Lutheran at 38%, Three-Self Patriotic Movement at 37%, Oriental Orthodox at 35%, Mennonite at 35%, Methodist at 35%, Presbyterian at 34%, Reformed at 33%, Seventh-Day Adventist at 32%, Pentecostal at 30%, Amish at 30%, The Salvation Army at 30%, Baptist at 28%, Church of Christ at 27%, Quaker at 27%, New Apostolic Church at 26%, Messianic Judaism at 24%, Mormon at 24%, and Jehovah's Witnesses at 23%. I know this list will definitely make some people mad so here's a message for you.
I believe in one God, the Father almighty, Creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, His only Son our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; He descended into hell, and on the 3rd day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.
Thank you RZ for making Protestant videos that convert people to Catholicism faster than any actual Catholic YTr I’ve seen
Likewise, it's great of you to recognise what's commonly called 'Protestantism' as true Catholicism. That is indeed its purpose - conversion to the catholic faith of the Gospel.
@@Mic1904pure copious 😂
@@KadenGreen-eg1cz Copious indeed. Abundant, even.
@@Mic1904 i meant cope 😭
I can confirm that this quiz works for Baptists. Though it may need to weigh some aspects better.
it nailed me as a Baptist, but it also put me in the CCP church. They need more questions to separate the CCP and the Baptist church. They believe in sprinkling baptism and a church ran by the CCP. Baptist are hardcore on Church Autonomy and the separation of Church and State.
@@anangrytexan2244 I think it's based on how many questions you agree with a denomination over. Since the CCP one has way fewer questions, a Baptist or likeminded is going to end up pretty similar to them.
My top 5 were Methodist (73%), Presbyterian (72%), Lutheran, Anglican and Reformed.
My bottom 3 were Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and finally Oriental orthodox. Baptism was quite low too.
I’m a better reformed Christian than redeemed zoomer
As to how the Three-Self Patriotic Movement was my third and somehow Calvary Chapel was above Baptist which is what I am 😂
Mormon was dead last on my list thank God.
As a Catholic, here are my results:
1) Catholic - 58%
2) Reformed - 41%
3) Lutheran - 41%
4) Eastern Orthodox - 39%
5) Mennonite - 38%
6) Baptist - 37%
7) Anglican - 33%
8) Presbyterian - 31%
Former Calvary Chaple-ite, new presbyterian here. I would think Calvary would be the last "protestant" denomination on this list for you
I wonder if this quiz was sponsored by the CCP as it leans heavily toward the "three self-patriotic movements". My beliefs are more closely aligned with Baptist and Pentecostal although I am not a fan of a lot of the modern "worship music" and I have some questions about the dominations' Eschatology. Mine showed Presbyterian as being second with all other denominations leveling out and then dropping offstarting with Quaker, JW, Mormon, & Catholic.
yeah i bet the communist party of china sponsored this random ass online quiz with 300 daily clicks in order to convert the christians of the world to their nation exclusive denomination
My score: (I will only include main denominations)
Methodist -> Lutheran -> Reformed -> Baptist -> Pentecostal -> Anglican -> Catholic -> Orthodox -> Oriental
I'm a bit surprised. I think I need to learn more about that Wesley guy
Basically he was cool and his followers were like hey ur cool and then over time they all turned gay. Methodism explained in 1 sentence.
I took the quiz and I got reformed. I'm lutheran lol I couldn't find the answers I wanted on several of them
“Christ’s body is not psychially joined in the elements”
That is heresy!
He cannot say that!
You picked accapella which is the same as the Church of Christ. That’s how it came up so high.
16:20 my church is an LCMS church and we have an orchestra, we played with our choir for a hymn written by Luther based on Beethoven’s 9th symphony