Ex-Muslim, Got baptized into Christ in the Orthodox Church a year ago. I've never been this spirituality happy before. Even the tough days are good with the love of God. Lord have mercy on us all.
Same here; it's just a matter of deciding if you're a Protestant, and then deciding which Protestant denomination seems the most biblical. To me, I think that's Lutheranism. It's an excellent mix of not overcomplicating scripture, while also interpreting it with due regard to the immense amount of context.
Yeah, I used to be Babtist! But I converted to Presbyterianism like... I think about 3 months ago. But I'm 13 so I can't go to a Pres church; I have to go with my parents.
Ex-Mormon here. Anglican church is where I've found myself and I like to call it my home. I feel it is where the Lord has drawn me and I am working on grafting myself with the church.
Praise God you were able to get out. I was in a bishopric nearly right up until God led me out right before the pandemic. Now I’ve been saved and reborn and attend a strong Bible preaching church.
I like to see videos giving appreciation to all denominations. People spend too much time criticising and dividing the Kingdom of God on earth. Solid work from you RZ. 👍🏻
Yeah. As a Lutheran, I see a lot of criticism specifically of the catholic church, but I think we should focus on the good sides of all the denominations. We are all christian and having so many denominations allows people to express their faith in different ways. It is always good to look for the good in every group, even outside of christianity.
@ “Yeah. As an atheist, I see a lot of criticism specifically of the christian’s, but I think we should focus on the good sides of all the religions and faiths. We are all human and having so many religions allows people to express their faith in different ways. It is always good to look for the good in every group, even outside of religion and faith.”
The apostle Paul criticized the ppl trying to divide Christianity into denominations and sects. You might want to open a bible to 1 Cor. 1 and see what he says about such ppl. He asked a rhetorical question: "is Christ divided?". The questions is rhetorical because the obvious answer is "no". Christ's Church is NOT divided among groups with contradicting traditions and doctrines. Furthermore, the Kingdom of God does NOT exist yet.
@@gumbyshrimp2606 why does every protestant have to constantly attack Catholicism to justify their own existence i say every protestant as a general statement, not an exhausted one
@@gumbyshrimp2606 as a foreigner there is something I truly dislike about Christianity in US: you people usually are very ecumenical with catholics and orthodox. At least is not all protestants.
I am a devout Lutheran, the close attention to the Bible and the promise that we will be saved if we have faith in Jesus is why I am still lutheran, Ive seen many people confused about what they believe and end up leaning more into Lutheran Ideology. But I pray that everyone finds what they believe and are proud with their denomination as it is.
I’m considering joining a Lutheran congregation, as that’s really the only reformed church in my area. I’m happy to learn this fact because I struggle at times with confusion on salvation, having had a brief stint in a “free will Baptist” church where we thought we had to recommit at altar calls every Sunday or we would lose our salvation.
You had me at "Catholicism is about... the real presence" 😎 It was great learning about how to celebrate the other denominations! Thanks for your efforts to unify the church!
@Shnitzel_Affe To give you the short version: they're Anglicans who essentially practice Catholicism but without a Pope. The idea is to stay true to the Anglican Communion's Catholic origin but to also remain distinct from Rome.
This was a great and surprisingly unbiased video! I am a Lutheran now but I got saved in a Reformed Baptist church and the Baptist description was very accurate.
This is an excellently well put together video, very objective and unbiased. I am already part of a denomination, and an active member of my church, and I must say God worked through Redeemed Zoomer to bring me to his Grace. Thank you! Soli Deo Gloria.
Brought up in a baptist church and now a missionary in a Japanese traditional pentecostal church. Pressing into church history and finding rest in the Gospel. Only God knows where I will end up!
What area of Japan? Since I started learning the language my husband has this dream of us doing the missionaries to Japan thing. Not likely given my lack of people skills, but when we do eventually get to at least visit I'd like to know where to go to church on Sundays. ^^
I started in a Baptist church, too. We moved to Pentacostal after my dad heard a story about how a friend of the pastor mocked a continuationist church by reciting a Psalm in Hebrew pretending like he spoke in tounges. After it was interpreted and the service ended, he told them about his deception. I don't care who you are, deception is the work of Satan and the Bible confirms it by calling him the father of all lies. They also kicked out a pastor we liked who was teaching about the Holy Spirit and the works that He does.
If your pressing into church history the history of the church your in will hit a dead in around 1900. If you continue to press and learn you’ll find out anything Protestant will dead end around 1500. If you are Catholic you will find out that around 1000ad you’ll hit a wall. Oriental Orthodoxy you’ll find around 500ad hit a wall then finally go all the way back to the apostles and that’s where you’ll find Holy Orthodoxy. God bless.
Pentecostals being more spreading the gospel focused, fruits of the spirit and spiritual gifts are what convinced me to stick with that church. I do want tradition and beautiful buildings but spreading the gospel is more important!
Many non-Pentecostals like to knock on them but I cannot deny their passion for the Gospel and seeing people get saved. While the rest of us are arguing petty differences on theology Pentecostals are converting and helping the lost the most of all denominations I think.
Ultimately, the most important thing is being in church. You can believe all the theology you want, but unless you're participating in the body of believers, it is worthless. Going to a church that you may theologically disagree with is more important than not attending church because there aren't any churches nearby that align in your beliefs.
I disagree. You may not be aware but many of these traditions have completely different core doctrines. It'd be similar to asking a baptist to go to the Mormon temple.
@@Silver_The_Dreadful For me the thing is that mormonism is not christianity... im a baptist and i super disagree with catholic doctrine. But if i go to a place with no protestant church, i will go to a catholic one. Even with all the disagreements and problems in the doctrines, its still has christianity in it
@@Silver_The_Dreadful Mormons and a handful of other religions like JWs and Oneness Pentecostals are not Christian. To clarify, I'm strictly speaking about denominations that follow the Nicene and Apostle's Creed.
@@NOTREALCREEK Faith in Jesus is the most important, however that faith is dead unless it is nurtured through works... such as going to church. James 2:26: "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also" God Bless!
I'm Catholic. My take is that, if you are discerning Christianity, you must follow your conscience and turn to Christ. Honestly, if you find a place in that little Bible church down on some back road, then that's good! Keep your mind and heart open, though! Study the Bible. Study what the earliest Christians had to say, because they will point you in the right direction. The Mother of God will lead you to her Son, and the Son will always lead you towards his own Church!
@MarkStein-n3r that's not what he said. I took it as we should prioritize our unity in Christ as Christians more than our tribalism of which church is special enough to be official. I've been considering catholicism, actually, because of the verse about hell being unable to prevail against Peter's church seems compelling. Im still undecided though tbh because of the pope's recent obviously unchristian statements about all religions leading to God. (Christ by contrast said "I AM the way, the truth, and the life. NO ONE comes to the father but through me"). Granted, im still not familiar enough with catholic doctrine, specifically about the pope, to say whether that should affect the church's legitamacy as a whole. Again, im still researching into it. And his point about a small town church being good enough just reminds me of this: Luke 9:49-50 KJV [49] "And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. [50] And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us. " I didnt take the op's comment as if he said 'any church is fine, even if it's heretical / has no bishop / is unbiblical' because he clearly didnt say that. You might want to listen more closely😅
@MarkStein-n3r *Ignatius of Antioch. There is no Ignatius of Lyon. You might be conflating him with St. Ireneaus of Lyon, who was a disciple of St. Polycarp, who himself was a disciple of John.
@MarkStein-n3r You’re very eager to quote a church father here, but tell me, what is a bishop? Ignatius was from ~100 AD, so the idea of what a bishop back then is likely different than what you confidently think now. A bishop back then was likely a leader of the church, educated in the Bible. Protestant churches have that, leaders of churches educated in the Bible. If you want to hear a quote from Jesus himself, read Mark 9:38 to 9:41. The apostle John said he saw a man driving out demons and told him to stop. Jesus told him, “Do not stop him. For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us.” If the church is good for Jesus, then it is a good church no matter if it is Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox. Let the Holy Spirit help you discern whether or not a church is good.
@MarkStein-n3r They came to Jesus and said, “Master, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he does not follow with us.” And Jesus answered, “Do not forbid him, for he that is not against you is for you.” (Luke 9:49-50).
My discernment says is that when your church says “salvation only through Catholic Church” kind of a red flag to me. As well as this “true church” claim.
As an Anglican who grew up basically Baptist, I really appreciate your descriptions of both of them. I really appreciate your views of the denominations working together as different parts of the body of Christ.
@ I would imagine something similar. What is the purpose of that comment? I hope humor, but, at least for me, it didn’t really land. You forget, I grew up basically Baptist. That was the only thing I knew about the Anglican Church as well until about 5 years ago.
Lutheran here,great video Redeemed Zoomer for including Catholic and Orthodox traditions as well. Yes there are doctrinal differences like the same thing even within protestant denomiantions, was sick of hearing some protestant preachers making videos on Catholics and Orthodox as if they werent even christians.
I was drawn to Orthodoxy in part because of wisdom I read from monks over the centuries and also I was really impressed by studying the lives of Orthodox Saints and all the miracles attributed to them. It was pretty impressive learning about incorruptible saints where there bodies where preserved from natural decay. For instance St. Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna, lived from A.D. 80 to 167 and was a disciple of the Apostle John. He was arrested and taken to a stadium in Rome to be burned to death in a front of a crowd. He was tied to a stake, the fires were lit… but then he wouldn’t burn. I also recommend the youtube video St Gabriel of Georgia,, fool for Christ, there were so many other example of Orthodox Christians and miracles attributed to them it made me seriously consider converting to Orthodoxy and I haven't looked back.
I'm glad you're finally home! I'm going to be made a catechumen in the Orthodox church this month. I can't wait to finally be a part of the one true church!
@@Ben-lh7jg cool followers of Christ . I can name your miracles of other Christians . You assume they would agree with orthodox today. There isn’t anything happening in the orthodox community that’s not happening in other Christian communities. In fact , wherever Jesus goes there is a church Born and they may never meet an orthodox. In fact , the persecuted Church is bigger then the Orthodox community
I appreciate this, even though I grew up Pentecostal and don't plan on leaving my church that I'm very active in (former AG, now non-denom) for a while (maybe consideration when I finally move out permanently to a completely different area). Certainly won't change because some YT guy says to become Mainline or Catholic. My personal theology has shifted quite a bit over the past year though, I have yet to see where the Holy Spirit is leading me in that department. I have the same approach to my old buddies that I still talk and play with, who are either agnostic, atheist, or ex-Catholic with a lot of past hurt, I pray that the Lord leads them to Christ. Certainly, I'd prefer them to be Pentecostal like me, but that's not my call to make, that's up to God. I'm saving this for a later time, when one or more of them do put their faith in Christ. If anyone reading this feels led to pray for them, I'd appreciate the reinforcement. Speaking of buddies, I am really hurting for Christian friends closer to my demographic: I'm 30, autistic, and single man. I know RZ has his RZ Discord, separate from the Reconquista Discord, which does accept non-mainline Protestants and Catholics/Orthodox, but I had been worried about being looked down on for not being mainline Protestant and being just as alone as I am at church. Maybe I'm loyal to a fault, but better than the alternative. Anyone in the RZ Discord that can speak some peace into this issue?
@RZ Thanks for your videos, mate. I grew up in a modern Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, NY, and have been living in Israel for the past seven years. Long story short, I came to Christ about eight months ago-or more accurately, I believe Jesus saved me in an incredible way. Having grown up without any exposure to Jesus, I’ve been trying to make sense of it all. Here in Israel, I’ve connected with other Messianic Jews who also believe Jesus is our Messiah. I’ve also made some Catholic friends since the Church has a significant presence here. Now, my family and I are moving back to Brooklyn. I understand that Presbyterian and Dutch Reformed churches are prominent in the area, and I think I’d feel comfortable starting there. I know that’s your denomination, and I’ve been deeply influenced by John Piper and his Reformed theology. Between listening to you both and a few others, I feel truly blessed to be on this early journey of faith. I know I’ll face pushback and rejection from my Jewish community, but I’m confident in the transformative power of Jesus in my life. I won’t back down from carrying His message, even if it means losing friends or family. It is what it is. As I grow in faith, I hope to make an impact within my Jewish community and help my brothers and sisters realize the truth: we’ve rejected our Savior and, in doing so, have rejected HASHEM (what we call God-Adonai, Yahweh). On a brighter note, I’ve noticed that the number of Jews coming to Jesus is increasing significantly. I love the message in Matthew 15:24, where Jesus says: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Yet now, through God’s providence, the gospel is coming back to us through the Gentiles. As Paul writes in Romans 11:11-15: “Through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass means riches for the world…how much more will their full inclusion mean!” And in Romans 11:25-26: “A partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way, all Israel will be saved…” It’s clear we all have a role to play. I feel so blessed to be called to follow Jesus. Whether this was predestined by God or a result of my free will with a sprinkle of divine intervention, I don’t care-I’m just grateful to be in! Now, I need to take the next step and get baptized. I haven’t made it official yet and am debating whether to do it here in Israel or wait until I’m back in NY. I’d love advice or feedback from anyone on how to go about it and how to know the right time. I feel ready, but I’m not sure what I’m waiting for. 😂 Much love to you all, my brothers and sisters in Christ. ❤
How about just open a bible to 1 Cor. 1 and get God's answer where Paul was inspired to preach against the existence of denominations. God would not ever lead anyone to an erroneous sect claiming to be Christian.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 he did preach against the existence of quarrels, but now that there are denominations, it doesn't mean that he is promoting one specific one.
From 11:28 to 11:33 Catholics believe this too. It is one of the apostolic traditions of the ancient churches (Catholic church, Eastern Orthodox churches, Oriental Orthodox churches, Churches of the East, etc).
Yeah he kind of completely glossed over our immense emphasis on the unseen spiritual war and gave that point to the pentecostals. Like the Orthodox church constantly reminds us that we are at war with satan and that demons are absolutely real. The traditions of the Orthodox church and the many spiritual practices we have are all there to aid us in this war.
Presbyterians wouldn't say we're NPCs but this is indeed God's universe. The Westminster Confession says God controlling everything doesn't take away free will as a secondary cause
I should hope we're not NPCs! We weren't given free will and the invitation to use it just be moved about like a fate-driven pawn! God created your soul, and gave you a mind, a heart, and a conscience. He has invited you act within his universe! You are most definitely a PC -=- and as the beloved of the Creator, you are a Main Character indeed! We are called to theosis, to participate in the divine life itself!
@@redeemedzoomer6053 My position is more of a combination of the Catholic theological thesis of Molinism with the Barthian strain of Reformed theology common in the PCUSA today, and depends on frames of reference. What we would see as free will is, from God's perspective, all pre-ordained. The main biblical reference, and a verse that I often come back to just for centering myself, comes from Psalm 139: "Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be." That entire Psalm (particularly the first 18 verses) is comforting to me, because before I truly identified with Reformed theology, I used to have the very heretical thought that God was capable of mistakes, my own very existence being the evidence. But if everything from God's perspective was pre-ordained before the stars were born, that means that the very universe itself is self-evidence of God's sovereignty. No matter what we do as individuals with our limited frames of reference, we are physically unable to stray from God's will, because it was all God's will to begin with. I can't convert away from that, because it wouldn't be converting to Catholicism, or strict five-points Calvinism, or any other faith tradition, it would be converting to suicidal.
@@padraicbrown6718 It's ok that we are NPC's... nothing wrong with worshipping God and following Him, than risk eternity by remaining in our autonomy. Remember, we come from Him, we are made in His image, God's will is that none shall perish. Being a pawn is not a bad thing, we want to serve God, because we are from Him! I would rather be less of "myself" and more of Him, any day, but this flesh is a stumbling block, and we will ultimately be glorified in death, away from the body
I converted to Lutheranism about 10 years ago. I shared many of the same spiritual anxieties as Martin Luther and my birthday is the same as Martin Luther… I suspect that was not an accident.
500th comment! After being non-denominational my whole life, god has finally put it it in my heart to choose a denomination and i have chosen to become lutheran, it finally clicked with me just yesterday funnily enough.
There is only one church. The one holy catholic, orthodox oriental apostolic Lutheran baptist reformed progressive exclusive universal independent modern evangelical right-wing global liturgical fundamentalist prodestant liberal humble inclusive tolerant spontaneous structured egalitarian minimalist church of Iowa
I appreciate the work you do and the research you have put into your videos even if I am myself on a life long fence process regarding my own faith. Feels nice to encounter other young people with a passion for religion and its nooks and crannies.
Lutheran here - I would just add about our focus on the inerrancy of the Bible and that any teaching we provide must come solely from the Bible. Great job though, your channel is awesome especially for explaining complex concepts to unchurched younger adults.
Raised Anglican(technically episcopal). though I’m not super religious and as good of a Christian like many of you are, I gotta say Anglican hymns go hard. I’d go to church just for the music Fr. Beautiful churches too!
Anglicanism (more commonly said as Church of England here) is pretty much spot on. What you might be interested to know is that an enormous reason for Anglicanism being ecclectic on beliefs is that there was such enormous turmoil from Henry VIII through Edward and Mary specifically in regards to religious persecution that Elizabeth I decided (in my viee her finest act of an incredible reign) that the Church in England needed to compromise to live peacefully and thrive. As such we have had centuries of precedent from the Book of Common Prayer to the taking over from Catholcism at being at the forefront of religious music, adopting the best Catholic music and then enhancing it. As with most things in England, we were obsessed with beauty and were practical about when to compromise. Its no surprise then that our faith turned out this way! It's also why generally C of E members don't like hard sells. England isnt the land of proselytising.
Diversity (theological diversity) is not a biblical value. It is a modern, secular value rooted in Western Liberalism that is often antithetical to Christianity.
I'm Anglican, but I attend Lutheran church, as I live in Norway. British/Irish Anglicanism and Nordic (former State-Church as opposed to Free-Church) Lutheranism have a lot in common (including the struggle between conservative and liberal wings). When I was growing up, Anglicanism was divided between High-Church (sung liturgy and the potential for candles, bells and incense) and Low-Church (spoken liturgy and no candles, bells or incense). These days it has gotten VERY big-tent, with everything from Ultra-Low-Church Evangelical and/or Charismatic all the way to the Anglo-Catholics. Personally I'm more High-Church (more Anglo-Lutheran than Anglo-Catholic) and don't get a Church feeling in any church built after 1960.
You should check out the The Evangelical-Lutheran Diocese in Norway and the The Lutheran Church in Norway and Iceland, which are conservative Lutheran (International Lutheran Council) church bodies in Norway! They will be a lot better theologically than state church Lutheranism
@@benjaminwessel5426 Unfortunately there aren't any near me :( The closest to me is DELK in the next town over, but they are 50% low-church and don't have very pretty churches. Still, my local parish of the mainline Church of Norway has no 'progressivism' thankfully.
As a Baptist, I would say that we are not 100% against topical preaching, but we believe it is better to use the Bible as much as possible, and topical preaching can sometimes lead to using verses out of context.
Yeah that is a pretty bad issue. Verses out of context are very scary because when you use them wrongly you can lead yourself into terrible and extremely unbiblical practices. That's why we have to be like the Bereans and fact check sermons and messages with Scripture.
Good video Zoomer! Was raised in a Presbyterian church, but got saved in a Mennonite church in my 30's. Decided to stick around. Our services are a lot like Baptists, in that they are Bible based, but we preach beyond salvation. We love to sing, and we do a lot of disaster work.
I grew up in a Roman Catholic family in Brazil, where the Church is dominated by theological liberalism. I became an atheist and today I am a Presbyterian. Today, with a more mature outlook, after studying the Bible, learning about the history of the Church and reading our confessions, I am certain that I made the best choice. There are a lot of great things about Presbyterianism here in Brazil and it is the best choice for those who prefer historic protestantism. Sole Deo Glory!
have you read any of the Church Fathers' writings? I suggest you to reconsider the Catholic Faith despite your exposure to Catholics who were bad examples for the Church where you live. God Bless
I'm either gonna become Reformed-Anglican or find a methodist church. There are Calvinist methodist in America but they're super rare. Because methodism prefer Arminianism. Only in Wales are they truly reformed.
Hands down Catholic, when you read the bible, church history, early church fathers together it paints the complete picture. All of them have partial truths but the Catholic church has the fullness of the faith, do not fall for the pagan and worshipping mary/saints lies etc, do the leg work and you'll love Christ more than you ever will before.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II Jesus established the Catholic Church on the rock of Saint Peter in Matthew 16:18-19. I do not know who established the Orthodox Church.
@@RitaGatton Us Orthodox would agree that Peter founded the Church of Rome, just as he was also the founder of the Church of Antioch (Orthodox). Before the great schism, the Church was comprised of 8 total autocephalous (self-governing) churches. When the schism happened, Rome fell into heresy and separated from the 7 other autocephalous Churches. The Church of Rome eventually became known as the Roman Catholic Church, the 7 other Churches collectively became known officially as the Orthodox Catholic Church. These days, there are a total of 14 universally recognised autocephalous Churches within the Orthodox Church, however, these are the founders of the 7 Churches that had autocephalous status before the great schism occurred - all these Churches continue as members of the Orthodox Church to this day: 1. Church of Constantinople Founder: Saint Andrew. 2. Church of Alexandria Founder: Saint Mark. 3. Church of Antioch Founder: Saint Peter and Paul. 4. Church of Jerusalem Founder: Saint James. 5. Church of Cyprus Founder: Saint Barnabas. 6. Church of Georgia Founder: Saint Andrew. 7. Church of Bulgaria Founder: Saint Andrew
I prefer Baptist theology, but Catholics and orthodox have the BEST churches, nothing comes close. I wish that Protestants would make grand cathedrals and churches that look pristine, and perfect, it’s the perfect metaphor for God’s kingdom. Cathedrals look like Gods kingdom on Earth.
@@qlder0284 I went to a theologically liberal Episcopal church in my city before I fully converted to Christianity. The building was like 3.5/5 (best non-Catholic building in the city), but the pastor denied the resurrection and preached about how trees should have human rights (like how would that work) among other things.
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh I'm not going to tell you where I live, but its the largest church in a pretty big city, and it predates the United States of America
I have a bias but the anglican church has always been a large part of my family, my uncle was annoited as a bishop of an anglican church here in canada and despite being removed from the RCC its still close to the RCC in many ways, minus some of the things protestants usually disagree with (veneration if saints, papal infallibility, etc.,) So while acknowledging my biases i highly recommend the anglican church (high anglican so that you get all the sacraments)
My parents were raised Roman Catholic but stopped attending church when I was 5 and my brother was an infant. I attended church with friends no matter the denomination when I was a child, and in my 20s, my mom and I started going back to a Catholic Church in our town. I loved that church so much; they were a Catholic unicorn lol because they played contemporary music (not CCM but hymns from the Gather Hymnal, with contemporary instruments) We moved from that town 18 years ago, and I didn’t attend church for almost all of that time, until this year. I was hoping to find a Catholic Church like our old one. No luck and I finally just gave up and started attending a Pentecostal church. I do like the church quite a bit but still miss the order of mass. I’m going to keep searching for a Catholic Church I feel at home at… I just started looking up “charismatic Catholics” and hoping that helps find something in my area 🤷🏻♀️🙏🏼
The music is a very important part of the Mass. But, it is not the most important part. The most important part is the Holy Eucharist. The order in the liturgy that you miss is part of the worship of God that the Mass has. Please visit for a nearby Catholic Church and see where the Holy Spirit leads you!
Anglican here. (Though you already know that) I can say (at least for myself), Anglican suits me best because I'm indesicive...and (jokingly), anglicanism is the denomination for the indicisive believers in regards to liturgy, salvation views, and traditions 😂❤
Thanks for this informative video RZ. I'm investigating Anglicanism right now... I'm glad you have such a knowledge about the various denominations. I would just encourage you to realize that Christianity is more than just about denominations and buildings, it's about Christ ultimately. But yeah good video
The 1st century church didn't have a Nicene creed, and there's nothing in the Bible that says a church has to fall in line with a manmade creed in order to be considered Christian by God.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779They didn’t, no. The Nicene creed is a *summary* of what is in the bible. There’s a lot going on in all those books and we are limited people, sometimes it’s useful to have a compact tool on hand to use as a measure of the essentials. The creed is useful because it is developed from the Word, not at all because it precedes or exceeds it.
Your description of Baptists is great! I never really understood why Baptist sermons are so good but you really nailed it. And I agree about the high Protestant hymns, too. You hold out the Anglicans, but Episcopalians and others are similar.
I did find the description a little odd since Baptists, unlike many other denominations, don't traditionally have a lectionary, or even necessarily a reading before the sermon. This makes topical sermons more viable.
cough... the Orthodox crossbar is backwards. The thief to the right of Christ was forgiven and went to Heaven, the one of the left... not so much. That's how to remember it.
I was raised Methodist and then Baptist but once i grew up i started to researched christian theology myself and found Orthodoxy to hold the most legitimacy as the one true church. Ive been going to an Orthodox Church for a year or more and it just feels....right.
A lot of what was said for Catholic and Orthodox Christians can really be said for the other tbh. The only real difference between us other than geography and the Filioque is authority. I love my Orthodox brothers and I am happy to see they are gaining more and more members.
The part about Tradition though is a LOT less for Roman Catholics (although for Eastern Catholics it’s required to be the same as Orthodox). Roman Catholics have a lot of options: Tridentine Mass, Novus Ordo, Anglican Use, Braga, Ambrosian, Mozarabic, and several monastic-order Rites. The Novus Ordo Mass has even more flexibility. They have wildly different traditional and modern architectural styles to choose from. They can have statues, mere paintings, or true icons-all the same to them. They have various styles of Mass settings, including any instruments in existence or none, and singing, spoken words, or total silence. They can use a local language or Latin, even if no one knows Latin. They can choose their hymns, and they can choose the readings. To us Easterners, that is chaos and anarchy. The East has 1 monastic order, and 1 theology, and its nationalities (native or adopted) that have their own Rites. Our architectural styles are based on our nationalities. Near Eastern Rites have iconostases, Middle Eastern Rites have temple veils. Our melodies are ethnic too. Every service is sung/chanted a cappella. The language is always vernacular. The hymns and readings were decided for us over 1000 years ago, and we’re grateful. Nobody will choose anything tacky or sentimental for our funerals, like “On Eagles’ Wings”. Basically, we HATE change.
@ that is true that we have more Rites and even district traditions based on language, culture, and even spirituality. If anything that is a testament to the word Catholic (for anyone who doesn’t already know means “universal” or “according to the whole”) the basis of the faith though don’t change and we put a huge emphasis on tradition. That is why I say we are quite similar maybe more in some ways than others.
@@ohhbigboy is it catholic when mexicans practice pagan rituals and act RC? or the mayan rite? Does catholic mean pantheism? Is the RCC so catholic that they even include muslims, hindus, buddhists and atheists? Because they've said the protestants are secretly in their church, your popes have no issue praying in mosques, though this was condemned as an act of apostasy by your see already.
I dont want to be biased... but the Baptist positive point (about sermons) is basically what any reasonable Orthodox or Catholic homily does (basically read the Bible and explain what was read - the difference is: homilies are usually based on the Church Fathers and the Saits (at least in the Orthodox Church I attend)
The difference you pointed out is huge. Focus on Bible and its authority is much higher in Protestant churches. There was a study of American Christians how often they read Bible. Protestants reads 3-4 more often than Catholics. Plus, you missed the part where preacher always assume that some listeners are not saved (even if they attend regularly).
As a former Pentecostal, I would also say that the Holy Spirit is the major focus in their faith learning and practice. Baptism in the Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues, and various gifts of the Spirit are major stresses in the Pentecostal faith. It is very gifts centered and book of Acts centered. I've since moved to a more Lutheran take.
I have my favorite list just off feelings and instincts and what iv listed to about my the denominations at 1. Roman Catholic because I am a catholic by birth I was baptized😉 2. Anglican, they giving me the vibe I might like the liberalism of an Anglican Church with a catholic believe system if I can find it, I enjoy the structure with more freedom than Roman Catholic 3. Eastern Orthodox because they allow intercession of saints 4. Baptist because I felt the universal priesthood of all believers is why I like Protestants more than Catholics but unfortunately they don’t pray for intercession of saints in Protestantism so what I get out of them I lose in Catholicism👎🏻 5. Lutheran I just felt I had different believe system than they did but still had enough in common to put them at top 5, 6 non denominational when I’m feeling I want full range of expression in believes I have that the other denominations don’t believe in overall I’m a Christian and I believe God is final judgement not the popes nor the bishops nor the deacons nor the priests can condemn you for Gods judgement is a mystery, so if you denomination hop it’s not a sin but that you interpret God’s word differently and that’s okay because all the other denominations do too! God is a forgiving God a God of peace, as long as you have faith in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior of sin and follow the word of God and apply the law you will be fine✝️ God bless you all and pick your favorite denomination🕊️🙌🏻
I think perhaps the biggest similarity that Baptists and Lutherans share is that almost every Baptist and Lutheran sermon I have been to has had a presentation of the gospel, as Zoomer put it “an assumption someone in the audience is not saved and needs to hear the gospel.” That’s not the case in every denomination and something I really appreciate about our Baptist brothers as a Lutheran
I have found myself increasingly drawn to a Tiny little Group in the Anglican (GAFCON) Denomination called the ECFCE. Imagine a Combination of Presbyterian Theology, Anglican Prayer and Hymn's, and Reformed Baptist style Expository Preaching.. That is them.. Sadly however, they only have 5 Churches at the Moment.
Catholic here. GAFCON is a good way to go for those who can't stomach the Woke Church of England any longer. Is the ECFCE connected with bishop Richard Fenwick and that horrific mess he created up in Morcambe?
@MarkStein-n3r I was referring to how Redeemed Zoomer pointed out how RB Sermons tend to be Strongly Gospel Focused and with a deep Prioritisation of Repentance, Holiness and Evangelisation. The ECFCE indeed practices Infant Baptism as one of the two Sacramental Means of Grace (as said, their Theology is Presbyterian!) under Covenant Theology as per Calvin's Institutes, the 39 Articles of Religion 1571 and the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith, Fear not!
Former Catholic here, I was a catechumen (still a catechumen) and I was digging deep into more of Christianity, and found Orthodoxy (Eastern) interesting. Switched denominations, and couldn't even be any more happier, Christ is Risen. IC XC NI KA
Ex-Muslim, Got baptized into Christ in the Orthodox Church a year ago. I've never been this spirituality happy before. Even the tough days are good with the love of God. Lord have mercy on us all.
Glad to hear it! May God be with you always!
God bless you Amen.
Love you, brother ❤✝️
I'm very happy for you. Thanks for sharing.
Where do you live? Is it common in your area that people convert to Christianity?
I'm Lutheran and I might not have become Christian nor Protestant at all without you RZ, thank you. Glory to God.
Can you please share what you love most about Lutheranism? 🤍
I'm Lutheran too. Went through the same, used to be an agnostic and became christian thanks to RZ.
Same here; it's just a matter of deciding if you're a Protestant, and then deciding which Protestant denomination seems the most biblical. To me, I think that's Lutheranism. It's an excellent mix of not overcomplicating scripture, while also interpreting it with due regard to the immense amount of context.
Based lutheranism
I am like 99% sure I am becoming Luther
About to be former Non-Denominationa
Baptist here: You did a fine job on the quick description of the Baptist denomination.
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My man
Yeah, I used to be Babtist! But I converted to Presbyterianism like... I think about 3 months ago. But I'm 13 so I can't go to a Pres church; I have to go with my parents.
Why did you convert conner
@@Connerscuriosities I'm not even a protestant, but I applaud you for doing that
Ex addict and backslider. Please remember God loves to forgive us. His mercies are new every morning. Bless you all from canada. Darren.
0:01 Intro
1:02 Baptist
2:35 Lutheran
5:16 Presbyterian
7:14 Catholic
8:04 Anglican
9:24 Methodist
10:49 Orthodox
11:45 Pentecostal
13:16 Closing
Ex-Mormon here. Anglican church is where I've found myself and I like to call it my home. I feel it is where the Lord has drawn me and I am working on grafting myself with the church.
Nice
I’m very glad you’ve left all that heresy. I pray others do too.
Praise God you were able to get out. I was in a bishopric nearly right up until God led me out right before the pandemic. Now I’ve been saved and reborn and attend a strong Bible preaching church.
@@kashmirandal6282don’t pray for the children of satan
lol. Anglican only good for hymns
Very nice and unbiased. I however, am biased toward Catholicism, but try to see the beauty in all denominations, and your videos are a great help.
I like to see videos giving appreciation to all denominations. People spend too much time criticising and dividing the Kingdom of God on earth. Solid work from you RZ. 👍🏻
i wonder what movement started 500 years ago that divided the kingdom into countless “denominations”🤔
This was very informative. Can you also talk about Evangelical free churches?
Yeah. As a Lutheran, I see a lot of criticism specifically of the catholic church, but I think we should focus on the good sides of all the denominations. We are all christian and having so many denominations allows people to express their faith in different ways. It is always good to look for the good in every group, even outside of christianity.
@ “Yeah. As an atheist, I see a lot of criticism specifically of the christian’s, but I think we should focus on the good sides of all the religions and faiths. We are all human and having so many religions allows people to express their faith in different ways. It is always good to look for the good in every group, even outside of religion and faith.”
The apostle Paul criticized the ppl trying to divide Christianity into denominations and sects. You might want to open a bible to 1 Cor. 1 and see what he says about such ppl. He asked a rhetorical question: "is Christ divided?". The questions is rhetorical because the obvious answer is "no". Christ's Church is NOT divided among groups with contradicting traditions and doctrines. Furthermore, the Kingdom of God does NOT exist yet.
Orthodontist
Why did you have to remind me of when I got braces in middle school?…
Oriental Orthodontist or Eastern Orthodontist?
Venerate my braces
lol
With or without images?
As a Catholic, I'm happy that you capture what we do well. Have a blessed day, brother.
I am NOT converting to Catholicism.
Because I’m already Catholic😉
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh Augsburg Catholic? 🥺🙏
Technically, being Catholic should always mean being in a constant state of conversion!
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh papist admits that he can’t convert to the universal faith!
@@gumbyshrimp2606 why does every protestant have to constantly attack Catholicism to justify their own existence
i say every protestant as a general statement, not an exhausted one
@@gumbyshrimp2606 as a foreigner there is something I truly dislike about Christianity in US: you people usually are very ecumenical with catholics and orthodox. At least is not all protestants.
I am a devout Lutheran, the close attention to the Bible and the promise that we will be saved if we have faith in Jesus is why I am still lutheran, Ive seen many people confused about what they believe and end up leaning more into Lutheran Ideology. But I pray that everyone finds what they believe and are proud with their denomination as it is.
I’m considering joining a Lutheran congregation, as that’s really the only reformed church in my area. I’m happy to learn this fact because I struggle at times with confusion on salvation, having had a brief stint in a “free will Baptist” church where we thought we had to recommit at altar calls every Sunday or we would lose our salvation.
@@whoosh_angelCome to LCMS, but if not, stay at Presbyterian because both are Based
@@JohnHensley-o9y yeah I think if I weren't Baptist I would probably be Lutheran .
ALL churches claim that THEY follow the Bible.
Lutherans have a false faith.
You had me at "Catholicism is about... the real presence" 😎
It was great learning about how to celebrate the other denominations! Thanks for your efforts to unify the church!
LCMS here. You did a great job with your summaries here and describing the positives to each. Nice work!
Thank you for being fair to the Catholic Church, it’s really refreshing to see that from a Protestant. God bless!
I know I’ve seen so many people just not even calling Catholicism a denomination and calling it its own separate religion
Thank you so much for providing a sense of unity between all denominations! Much more is needed!
Three-Self Patriotic Movement, easily.
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+100 social credit
They officially use the Nicene Creed, so that puts them one step above Baptist…
This isn't funny anymore!!!
Literaly anglican Chinese, the best part about Three-self is the fact the actualy use the nicene creed
I went Roman Catholic this year (former Anglo-Catholic) and it's been nothing but positive so far. Thanks be to God.
God bless you
What is Roman Catholic or Anglo-Catholic?
A 19th Century construct of those battling with the truth
@@Shnitzel_AffeCatholicism without the Pope.
Welcome home
@Shnitzel_Affe To give you the short version: they're Anglicans who essentially practice Catholicism but without a Pope. The idea is to stay true to the Anglican Communion's Catholic origin but to also remain distinct from Rome.
This was a great and surprisingly unbiased video! I am a Lutheran now but I got saved in a Reformed Baptist church and the Baptist description was very accurate.
This is an excellently well put together video, very objective and unbiased. I am already part of a denomination, and an active member of my church, and I must say God worked through Redeemed Zoomer to bring me to his Grace. Thank you! Soli Deo Gloria.
Brought up in a baptist church and now a missionary in a Japanese traditional pentecostal church. Pressing into church history and finding rest in the Gospel. Only God knows where I will end up!
What area of Japan? Since I started learning the language my husband has this dream of us doing the missionaries to Japan thing. Not likely given my lack of people skills, but when we do eventually get to at least visit I'd like to know where to go to church on Sundays. ^^
Assemblies of God?
As someone of Japanese descent in a Baptist church, may God bless your endeavors in that church abundantly
I started in a Baptist church, too. We moved to Pentacostal after my dad heard a story about how a friend of the pastor mocked a continuationist church by reciting a Psalm in Hebrew pretending like he spoke in tounges. After it was interpreted and the service ended, he told them about his deception. I don't care who you are, deception is the work of Satan and the Bible confirms it by calling him the father of all lies.
They also kicked out a pastor we liked who was teaching about the Holy Spirit and the works that He does.
If your pressing into church history the history of the church your in will hit a dead in around 1900. If you continue to press and learn you’ll find out anything Protestant will dead end around 1500. If you are Catholic you will find out that around 1000ad you’ll hit a wall. Oriental Orthodoxy you’ll find around 500ad hit a wall then finally go all the way back to the apostles and that’s where you’ll find Holy Orthodoxy. God bless.
Pentecostals being more spreading the gospel focused, fruits of the spirit and spiritual gifts are what convinced me to stick with that church. I do want tradition and beautiful buildings but spreading the gospel is more important!
Same. Im also pentecostal and crave more tradition (grew up catholic) but like you said there are more important priorities.
Many non-Pentecostals like to knock on them but I cannot deny their passion for the Gospel and seeing people get saved. While the rest of us are arguing petty differences on theology Pentecostals are converting and helping the lost the most of all denominations I think.
Pentecostals *deny* the Gospel as they deny the Five Points of Grace.
@simeonyves5940 huh?
@@simeonyves5940 But uh...where?
Ultimately, the most important thing is being in church. You can believe all the theology you want, but unless you're participating in the body of believers, it is worthless. Going to a church that you may theologically disagree with is more important than not attending church because there aren't any churches nearby that align in your beliefs.
correction, the most important thing is jesus
I disagree. You may not be aware but many of these traditions have completely different core doctrines. It'd be similar to asking a baptist to go to the Mormon temple.
@@Silver_The_Dreadful For me the thing is that mormonism is not christianity... im a baptist and i super disagree with catholic doctrine. But if i go to a place with no protestant church, i will go to a catholic one. Even with all the disagreements and problems in the doctrines, its still has christianity in it
@@Silver_The_Dreadful Mormons and a handful of other religions like JWs and Oneness Pentecostals are not Christian. To clarify, I'm strictly speaking about denominations that follow the Nicene and Apostle's Creed.
@@NOTREALCREEK Faith in Jesus is the most important, however that faith is dead unless it is nurtured through works... such as going to church.
James 2:26: "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also"
God Bless!
Pentecostal here. This was beautifully done. Thank you for your positivity and objectivity.
Proud to be Pentecostal! God bless you immensely 🙏❤️✝️
I'm Catholic. My take is that, if you are discerning Christianity, you must follow your conscience and turn to Christ. Honestly, if you find a place in that little Bible church down on some back road, then that's good!
Keep your mind and heart open, though! Study the Bible. Study what the earliest Christians had to say, because they will point you in the right direction. The Mother of God will lead you to her Son, and the Son will always lead you towards his own Church!
@MarkStein-n3r that's not what he said. I took it as we should prioritize our unity in Christ as Christians more than our tribalism of which church is special enough to be official.
I've been considering catholicism, actually, because of the verse about hell being unable to prevail against Peter's church seems compelling. Im still undecided though tbh because of the pope's recent obviously unchristian statements about all religions leading to God. (Christ by contrast said "I AM the way, the truth, and the life. NO ONE comes to the father but through me"). Granted, im still not familiar enough with catholic doctrine, specifically about the pope, to say whether that should affect the church's legitamacy as a whole. Again, im still researching into it.
And his point about a small town church being good enough just reminds me of this:
Luke 9:49-50 KJV
[49] "And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. [50] And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us. "
I didnt take the op's comment as if he said 'any church is fine, even if it's heretical / has no bishop / is unbiblical' because he clearly didnt say that. You might want to listen more closely😅
@MarkStein-n3r *Ignatius of Antioch.
There is no Ignatius of Lyon. You might be conflating him with St. Ireneaus of Lyon, who was a disciple of St. Polycarp, who himself was a disciple of John.
@MarkStein-n3r You’re very eager to quote a church father here, but tell me, what is a bishop? Ignatius was from ~100 AD, so the idea of what a bishop back then is likely different than what you confidently think now. A bishop back then was likely a leader of the church, educated in the Bible. Protestant churches have that, leaders of churches educated in the Bible.
If you want to hear a quote from Jesus himself, read Mark 9:38 to 9:41. The apostle John said he saw a man driving out demons and told him to stop. Jesus told him, “Do not stop him. For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us.” If the church is good for Jesus, then it is a good church no matter if it is Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox. Let the Holy Spirit help you discern whether or not a church is good.
@MarkStein-n3r
They came to Jesus and said, “Master, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he does not follow with us.” And Jesus answered, “Do not forbid him, for he that is not against you is for you.” (Luke 9:49-50).
My discernment says is that when your church says “salvation only through Catholic Church” kind of a red flag to me. As well as this “true church” claim.
Loving these videos explaining the differences between the denominations. Oh, and Richard's New York accent is awesome
Your work is great man. Very accessible, and your love for your brothers of different practice shows a beautiful christian attitude
As an Anglican who grew up basically Baptist, I really appreciate your descriptions of both of them. I really appreciate your views of the denominations working together as different parts of the body of Christ.
How is King Henry the 8th these days? I say he is getting nice and toasty down below!
@ I would imagine something similar. What is the purpose of that comment? I hope humor, but, at least for me, it didn’t really land. You forget, I grew up basically Baptist. That was the only thing I knew about the Anglican Church as well until about 5 years ago.
Lutheran here,great video Redeemed Zoomer for including Catholic and Orthodox traditions as well. Yes there are doctrinal differences like the same thing even within protestant denomiantions, was sick of hearing some protestant preachers making videos on Catholics and Orthodox as if they werent even christians.
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i love tjhis! The body of christ is made of many parts, and finding the good things in each part makes the whole body stronger.
Totally agree with this! Pray for unity in the Christian body.
@@BenjaminFrancois-w1vamen ❤️🔥
I was drawn to Orthodoxy in part because of wisdom I read from monks over the centuries and also I was really impressed by studying the lives of Orthodox Saints and all the miracles attributed to them. It was pretty impressive learning about incorruptible saints where there bodies where preserved from natural decay. For instance St. Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna, lived from A.D. 80 to 167 and was a disciple of the Apostle John. He was arrested and taken to a stadium in Rome to be burned to death in a front of a crowd. He was tied to a stake, the fires were lit… but then he wouldn’t burn. I also recommend the youtube video St Gabriel of Georgia,, fool for Christ, there were so many other example of Orthodox Christians and miracles attributed to them it made me seriously consider converting to Orthodoxy and I haven't looked back.
Bless you brother
It is indeed a beautiful tradition. God bless you brother.
I'm glad you're finally home! I'm going to be made a catechumen in the Orthodox church this month. I can't wait to finally be a part of the one true church!
Glory to God! ☦️
Life of Saint Nektarios is also very inspiring. There isna good movie about it called Man of God.
@@Ben-lh7jg cool followers of Christ . I can name your miracles of other Christians . You assume they would agree with orthodox today. There isn’t anything happening in the orthodox community that’s not happening in other Christian communities. In fact , wherever Jesus goes there is a church Born and they may never meet an orthodox. In fact , the persecuted Church is bigger then the Orthodox community
To anyone new here RZ is a devout Mormon
beautiful misinformation
He is actually Ethiopian Tewahedo
You guys are all behind he reverted to Islam yesterday mashallah
No guys stop lying he’s an Aztec pagan and he loves human sacrifices
@@thedeadlysquidward1641 I am tho
I appreciate this, even though I grew up Pentecostal and don't plan on leaving my church that I'm very active in (former AG, now non-denom) for a while (maybe consideration when I finally move out permanently to a completely different area). Certainly won't change because some YT guy says to become Mainline or Catholic. My personal theology has shifted quite a bit over the past year though, I have yet to see where the Holy Spirit is leading me in that department. I have the same approach to my old buddies that I still talk and play with, who are either agnostic, atheist, or ex-Catholic with a lot of past hurt, I pray that the Lord leads them to Christ. Certainly, I'd prefer them to be Pentecostal like me, but that's not my call to make, that's up to God. I'm saving this for a later time, when one or more of them do put their faith in Christ. If anyone reading this feels led to pray for them, I'd appreciate the reinforcement.
Speaking of buddies, I am really hurting for Christian friends closer to my demographic: I'm 30, autistic, and single man. I know RZ has his RZ Discord, separate from the Reconquista Discord, which does accept non-mainline Protestants and Catholics/Orthodox, but I had been worried about being looked down on for not being mainline Protestant and being just as alone as I am at church. Maybe I'm loyal to a fault, but better than the alternative. Anyone in the RZ Discord that can speak some peace into this issue?
I like how RZ tries his best to be completely unbiased throughout his videos
12:22 African countries are historically Christian, they have had Christianity from the time of the Apostles.
@RZ Thanks for your videos, mate. I grew up in a modern Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, NY, and have been living in Israel for the past seven years. Long story short, I came to Christ about eight months ago-or more accurately, I believe Jesus saved me in an incredible way. Having grown up without any exposure to Jesus, I’ve been trying to make sense of it all. Here in Israel, I’ve connected with other Messianic Jews who also believe Jesus is our Messiah. I’ve also made some Catholic friends since the Church has a significant presence here.
Now, my family and I are moving back to Brooklyn. I understand that Presbyterian and Dutch Reformed churches are prominent in the area, and I think I’d feel comfortable starting there. I know that’s your denomination, and I’ve been deeply influenced by John Piper and his Reformed theology. Between listening to you both and a few others, I feel truly blessed to be on this early journey of faith.
I know I’ll face pushback and rejection from my Jewish community, but I’m confident in the transformative power of Jesus in my life. I won’t back down from carrying His message, even if it means losing friends or family. It is what it is. As I grow in faith, I hope to make an impact within my Jewish community and help my brothers and sisters realize the truth: we’ve rejected our Savior and, in doing so, have rejected HASHEM (what we call God-Adonai, Yahweh).
On a brighter note, I’ve noticed that the number of Jews coming to Jesus is increasing significantly. I love the message in Matthew 15:24, where Jesus says:
“I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Yet now, through God’s providence, the gospel is coming back to us through the Gentiles. As Paul writes in Romans 11:11-15:
“Through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass means riches for the world…how much more will their full inclusion mean!”
And in Romans 11:25-26:
“A partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way, all Israel will be saved…”
It’s clear we all have a role to play. I feel so blessed to be called to follow Jesus. Whether this was predestined by God or a result of my free will with a sprinkle of divine intervention, I don’t care-I’m just grateful to be in!
Now, I need to take the next step and get baptized. I haven’t made it official yet and am debating whether to do it here in Israel or wait until I’m back in NY. I’d love advice or feedback from anyone on how to go about it and how to know the right time. I feel ready, but I’m not sure what I’m waiting for. 😂
Much love to you all, my brothers and sisters in Christ. ❤
Pray to God before you choose a denomination! Most important part!
second to sanctification of course
How about just open a bible to 1 Cor. 1 and get God's answer where Paul was inspired to preach against the existence of denominations. God would not ever lead anyone to an erroneous sect claiming to be Christian.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 whattya suppose people do then? We're still supposed to fellowship with other believers at a church
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 he did preach against the existence of quarrels, but now that there are denominations, it doesn't mean that he is promoting one specific one.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 and he would never lead anyone to a heretical sect. though I don't know what churches you count as heretical.
From 11:28 to 11:33 Catholics believe this too. It is one of the apostolic traditions of the ancient churches (Catholic church, Eastern Orthodox churches, Oriental Orthodox churches, Churches of the East, etc).
A lot of things he mentioned when describing a denomonation are believed by other denominations.
@pedroguimaraes6094 I know. This particular one is common to ancient apostolic churches. That's why I pointed it out.
Yeah he kind of completely glossed over our immense emphasis on the unseen spiritual war and gave that point to the pentecostals. Like the Orthodox church constantly reminds us that we are at war with satan and that demons are absolutely real. The traditions of the Orthodox church and the many spiritual practices we have are all there to aid us in this war.
Being Anglican, and having been to church for the first time in many years, I am glad I found what was missing in my life
As a life long presbyterian, I always like to say "It's God's universe, we're just the NPCs".
Presbyterians wouldn't say we're NPCs but this is indeed God's universe. The Westminster Confession says God controlling everything doesn't take away free will as a secondary cause
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Romans 9:17 and Hebrews 6 would like a word with you.
I should hope we're not NPCs! We weren't given free will and the invitation to use it just be moved about like a fate-driven pawn! God created your soul, and gave you a mind, a heart, and a conscience. He has invited you act within his universe! You are most definitely a PC -=- and as the beloved of the Creator, you are a Main Character indeed! We are called to theosis, to participate in the divine life itself!
@@redeemedzoomer6053 My position is more of a combination of the Catholic theological thesis of Molinism with the Barthian strain of Reformed theology common in the PCUSA today, and depends on frames of reference. What we would see as free will is, from God's perspective, all pre-ordained.
The main biblical reference, and a verse that I often come back to just for centering myself, comes from Psalm 139:
"Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be."
That entire Psalm (particularly the first 18 verses) is comforting to me, because before I truly identified with Reformed theology, I used to have the very heretical thought that God was capable of mistakes, my own very existence being the evidence. But if everything from God's perspective was pre-ordained before the stars were born, that means that the very universe itself is self-evidence of God's sovereignty. No matter what we do as individuals with our limited frames of reference, we are physically unable to stray from God's will, because it was all God's will to begin with.
I can't convert away from that, because it wouldn't be converting to Catholicism, or strict five-points Calvinism, or any other faith tradition, it would be converting to suicidal.
@@padraicbrown6718 It's ok that we are NPC's... nothing wrong with worshipping God and following Him, than risk eternity by remaining in our autonomy. Remember, we come from Him, we are made in His image, God's will is that none shall perish. Being a pawn is not a bad thing, we want to serve God, because we are from Him! I would rather be less of "myself" and more of Him, any day, but this flesh is a stumbling block, and we will ultimately be glorified in death, away from the body
I converted to Lutheranism about 10 years ago. I shared many of the same spiritual anxieties as Martin Luther and my birthday is the same as Martin Luther… I suspect that was not an accident.
500th comment! After being non-denominational my whole life, god has finally put it it in my heart to choose a denomination and i have chosen to become lutheran, it finally clicked with me just yesterday funnily enough.
May the Lord bless you abundantly. I was led to a Baptist church but I have much respect and admiration for my Lutheran brothers
@@jty1999 i used to go to a baptist church so i respect you guys a lot but I think you have too low of a view of the clergy and sacraments
very happy for you,
shoulda picked Methodist tho
@@zed381no5 wasn't expecting you here at all
what was wrong with it
Very nice video. It was an exellent summary of each denominations strenghts and virtues. Thank you
There is only one church. The one holy catholic, orthodox, oriental apostolic Lutheran baptist church
@MarkStein-n3r and the progressive part
@@NOTREALCREEKnah 😂
@@Valkaze111 joke
The're at least 12 other adjectives he forgot to add
There is only one church. The one holy catholic, orthodox oriental apostolic Lutheran baptist reformed progressive exclusive universal independent modern evangelical right-wing global liturgical fundamentalist prodestant liberal humble inclusive tolerant spontaneous structured egalitarian minimalist church of Iowa
I appreciate the work you do and the research you have put into your videos even if I am myself on a life long fence process regarding my own faith. Feels nice to encounter other young people with a passion for religion and its nooks and crannies.
You're a Presbyterian 👍
I very much enjoyed this clip, thanks for sharing !
Lutheran here - I would just add about our focus on the inerrancy of the Bible and that any teaching we provide must come solely from the Bible.
Great job though, your channel is awesome especially for explaining complex concepts to unchurched younger adults.
Raised Anglican(technically episcopal). though I’m not super religious and as good of a Christian like many of you are, I gotta say Anglican hymns go hard. I’d go to church just for the music Fr. Beautiful churches too!
God bless you ❤
I hope God moves you to take the faith seriously..
As a Lutheran I appreciate how you present us.
Anglicanism (more commonly said as Church of England here) is pretty much spot on. What you might be interested to know is that an enormous reason for Anglicanism being ecclectic on beliefs is that there was such enormous turmoil from Henry VIII through Edward and Mary specifically in regards to religious persecution that Elizabeth I decided (in my viee her finest act of an incredible reign) that the Church in England needed to compromise to live peacefully and thrive. As such we have had centuries of precedent from the Book of Common Prayer to the taking over from Catholcism at being at the forefront of religious music, adopting the best Catholic music and then enhancing it. As with most things in England, we were obsessed with beauty and were practical about when to compromise. Its no surprise then that our faith turned out this way! It's also why generally C of E members don't like hard sells. England isnt the land of proselytising.
I’m technically under a “non denominational” church, I see a lot of each group in my church. I hope everyone can find the right church for them.
I went nondenominational -> considering Protestantism/presbyteranism -> OCIA ✝️
very very common
Rome got this man. He’s rocking the Luce pfp and all 😭
CIA?
@@Thatoneguy-pu8ty lol as a catholic i still find this comment funny. I approve of this joke ex cathedra.
Nice pfp
As a non-denom/pentecostal, I respect all denominations and love the diversity of focus in the church of Christ in today's age.
Diversity (theological diversity) is not a biblical value. It is a modern, secular value rooted in Western Liberalism that is often antithetical to Christianity.
As the United States and Britain have proven over the last couple of decades, diversity is not a strength.
I'm Anglican, but I attend Lutheran church, as I live in Norway. British/Irish Anglicanism and Nordic (former State-Church as opposed to Free-Church) Lutheranism have a lot in common (including the struggle between conservative and liberal wings). When I was growing up, Anglicanism was divided between High-Church (sung liturgy and the potential for candles, bells and incense) and Low-Church (spoken liturgy and no candles, bells or incense). These days it has gotten VERY big-tent, with everything from Ultra-Low-Church Evangelical and/or Charismatic all the way to the Anglo-Catholics. Personally I'm more High-Church (more Anglo-Lutheran than Anglo-Catholic) and don't get a Church feeling in any church built after 1960.
You should check out the The Evangelical-Lutheran Diocese in Norway and the The Lutheran Church in Norway and Iceland, which are conservative Lutheran (International Lutheran Council) church bodies in Norway! They will be a lot better theologically than state church Lutheranism
@@benjaminwessel5426 Unfortunately there aren't any near me :( The closest to me is DELK in the next town over, but they are 50% low-church and don't have very pretty churches. Still, my local parish of the mainline Church of Norway has no 'progressivism' thankfully.
@@daithimcbuan5235 That's good to hear! I wonder to what extent the Church of Norway really is redeemable
As a Baptist, I would say that we are not 100% against topical preaching, but we believe it is better to use the Bible as much as possible, and topical preaching can sometimes lead to using verses out of context.
Agree
literally every comment on this vid starts with "as a ..."
@@NOTREALCREEKI didn’t even realize lol
Yeah that is a pretty bad issue. Verses out of context are very scary because when you use them wrongly you can lead yourself into terrible and extremely unbiblical practices. That's why we have to be like the Bereans and fact check sermons and messages with Scripture.
Agree with this.
Yeah baptist gang here
Yesss amen
All hail Yeshua Christos and his chosen prophet Billy Graham!!
amen
amen
@@TSN-WVK08 wut
Good video Zoomer! Was raised in a Presbyterian church, but got saved in a Mennonite church in my 30's. Decided to stick around. Our services are a lot like Baptists, in that they are Bible based, but we preach beyond salvation. We love to sing, and we do a lot of disaster work.
what is disaster work
@@NOTREALCREEK Service work....Helping people recover after natural disasters, i.e. hurricanes and floods.
Such beautiful words about the Catholic Church!! God bless you always!! 🙏🏻
Wow, thank you for making this amazing video!
I lean the most towards Anglicanism, only because no one tradition compiles all my beliefs, and Anglicans are Via-media.
Thank youuuu!!!
As a Baptist, I agree with you Baptist description. Good stuff.
I grew up in a Roman Catholic family in Brazil, where the Church is dominated by theological liberalism. I became an atheist and today I am a Presbyterian. Today, with a more mature outlook, after studying the Bible, learning about the history of the Church and reading our confessions, I am certain that I made the best choice. There are a lot of great things about Presbyterianism here in Brazil and it is the best choice for those who prefer historic protestantism. Sole Deo Glory!
@@pedroguimaraes6094 glad to see a fellow Brazilian here, graça e paz irmão
have you read any of the Church Fathers' writings? I suggest you to reconsider the Catholic Faith despite your exposure to Catholics who were bad examples for the Church where you live. God Bless
based
Catholicism is false
And you referred to yourself as "Roman" Catholic?
I am a happy member of the Reformed Church of South Africa.
hows the racism over there
@@NOTREALCREEKbruh 💀
I'm either gonna become Reformed-Anglican or find a methodist church.
There are Calvinist methodist in America but they're super rare. Because methodism prefer Arminianism. Only in Wales are they truly reformed.
Hands down Catholic, when you read the bible, church history, early church fathers together it paints the complete picture. All of them have partial truths but the Catholic church has the fullness of the faith, do not fall for the pagan and worshipping mary/saints lies etc, do the leg work and you'll love Christ more than you ever will before.
Reading the lives of saints and reading the Bible led me to Orthodoxy, still better than most Protestant groups.
but that is taste no? If other denoms/non denoms lead people to be saved, then...
After studying church history and reading the decrees of the ecumenical councils, I had no choice but to convert to Orthodoxy from Catholicism.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II Jesus established the Catholic Church on the rock of Saint Peter in Matthew 16:18-19. I do not know who established the Orthodox Church.
@@RitaGatton
Us Orthodox would agree that Peter founded the Church of Rome, just as he was also the founder of the Church of Antioch (Orthodox). Before the great schism, the Church was comprised of 8 total autocephalous (self-governing) churches. When the schism happened, Rome fell into heresy and separated from the 7 other autocephalous Churches. The Church of Rome eventually became known as the Roman Catholic Church, the 7 other Churches collectively became known officially as the Orthodox Catholic Church. These days, there are a total of 14 universally recognised autocephalous Churches within the Orthodox Church, however, these are the founders of the 7 Churches that had autocephalous status before the great schism occurred - all these Churches continue as members of the Orthodox Church to this day:
1. Church of Constantinople
Founder: Saint Andrew.
2. Church of Alexandria
Founder: Saint Mark.
3. Church of Antioch
Founder: Saint Peter and Paul.
4. Church of Jerusalem
Founder: Saint James.
5. Church of Cyprus
Founder: Saint Barnabas.
6. Church of Georgia
Founder: Saint Andrew.
7. Church of Bulgaria
Founder: Saint Andrew
I'm Presbyterian but I visited a Catholic mass in a cathedral last Sunday, and it made me proud to be Christian
I prefer Baptist theology, but Catholics and orthodox have the BEST churches, nothing comes close. I wish that Protestants would make grand cathedrals and churches that look pristine, and perfect, it’s the perfect metaphor for God’s kingdom. Cathedrals look like Gods kingdom on Earth.
Glad you enjoyed it! Which one did you go to?
@@Mars-5103 Anglicans and also Lutherans have some pretty grand cathedrals.
@@qlder0284 I went to a theologically liberal Episcopal church in my city before I fully converted to Christianity. The building was like 3.5/5 (best non-Catholic building in the city), but the pastor denied the resurrection and preached about how trees should have human rights (like how would that work) among other things.
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh I'm not going to tell you where I live, but its the largest church in a pretty big city, and it predates the United States of America
I recently had my Confirmation on 3 NOV, after exactly a year visiting Saint Ann Chapel in the Anglo-Catholic denomination (APCK).
I have a bias but the anglican church has always been a large part of my family, my uncle was annoited as a bishop of an anglican church here in canada and despite being removed from the RCC its still close to the RCC in many ways, minus some of the things protestants usually disagree with (veneration if saints, papal infallibility, etc.,)
So while acknowledging my biases i highly recommend the anglican church (high anglican so that you get all the sacraments)
After thorough examination, I believe redeemed zoomer must be a part of the 3-Self Patriotic Movement!
A believe that you are right
My parents were raised Roman Catholic but stopped attending church when I was 5 and my brother was an infant. I attended church with friends no matter the denomination when I was a child, and in my 20s, my mom and I started going back to a Catholic Church in our town. I loved that church so much; they were a Catholic unicorn lol because they played contemporary music (not CCM but hymns from the Gather Hymnal, with contemporary instruments) We moved from that town 18 years ago, and I didn’t attend church for almost all of that time, until this year. I was hoping to find a Catholic Church like our old one. No luck and I finally just gave up and started attending a Pentecostal church. I do like the church quite a bit but still miss the order of mass. I’m going to keep searching for a Catholic Church I feel at home at… I just started looking up “charismatic Catholics” and hoping that helps find something in my area 🤷🏻♀️🙏🏼
The music is a very important part of the Mass. But, it is not the most important part. The most important part is the Holy Eucharist. The order in the liturgy that you miss is part of the worship of God that the Mass has. Please visit for a nearby Catholic Church and see where the Holy Spirit leads you!
God bless you Zoomer, hope you're doing well
I love the face cam videos! These are great!
catholic here, love being catholic
Spiler alert:
If someone realy want to know he is Presbeterian.
One of the best videos you made, God Bless you zoomer!
Whatever is your denomination i wish you all well on your journey being a Christian and let’s finish the race until the end. 😊
Proud Catholic here, good work as always RZ :) Pax Christi
Anglican here. (Though you already know that) I can say (at least for myself), Anglican suits me best because I'm indesicive...and (jokingly), anglicanism is the denomination for the indicisive believers in regards to liturgy, salvation views, and traditions 😂❤
Thanks for this informative video RZ. I'm investigating Anglicanism right now... I'm glad you have such a knowledge about the various denominations. I would just encourage you to realize that Christianity is more than just about denominations and buildings, it's about Christ ultimately. But yeah good video
Bottom line - is the church doctrine in line with the Nicene creed - if so, they are Christian, if not... run, don't walk, away.
Which Nicene creed?
Yeah, especially if it’s the og nicene creed. Gotta have that “the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father”
@@Faithfulfilled1 based and Orthodox pilled
The 1st century church didn't have a Nicene creed, and there's nothing in the Bible that says a church has to fall in line with a manmade creed in order to be considered Christian by God.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779They didn’t, no. The Nicene creed is a *summary* of what is in the bible. There’s a lot going on in all those books and we are limited people, sometimes it’s useful to have a compact tool on hand to use as a measure of the essentials. The creed is useful because it is developed from the Word, not at all because it precedes or exceeds it.
As a catholic being the one who helps with being pro life
I mean, I’m pretty sure all denominations do help out with the pro-life movement, but yes, us Catholics do help out a lot.
I swear I've heard statistics from both catholics and others that a majority of catholics in the US is pro choice.
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xhnowadays yes, thanks to God, but some used to be pro abortion because of their individualistic views
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh Catholics started the movement, protestants joined it much later
The whole movement is on are back.
Your description of Baptists is great! I never really understood why Baptist sermons are so good but you really nailed it.
And I agree about the high Protestant hymns, too. You hold out the Anglicans, but Episcopalians and others are similar.
I did find the description a little odd since Baptists, unlike many other denominations, don't traditionally have a lectionary, or even necessarily a reading before the sermon. This makes topical sermons more viable.
Ex-pentecostal now high church anglicanism. I think the passion and expectation to be filled by the Lord is something vitally needed.
I'm sure this won't be controversial.
😂😂
I think it's pretty unbiased
@@Reformed_Thinker When has that ever mattered on the internet.
@@insearchofprometheus 🤷♀️
Reminder to anyone reading, actually attend church services and get discipled
cough... the Orthodox crossbar is backwards. The thief to the right of Christ was forgiven and went to Heaven, the one of the left... not so much. That's how to remember it.
Yeah I don't know how he messed this up...
The man who was forgiven did NOT go to Heaven when he died. He was merely assured of his place in God's Kingdom when it came here on that day.
I was raised Methodist and then Baptist but once i grew up i started to researched christian theology myself and found Orthodoxy to hold the most legitimacy as the one true church. Ive been going to an Orthodox Church for a year or more and it just feels....right.
A lot of what was said for Catholic and Orthodox Christians can really be said for the other tbh. The only real difference between us other than geography and the Filioque is authority. I love my Orthodox brothers and I am happy to see they are gaining more and more members.
The part about Tradition though is a LOT less for Roman Catholics (although for Eastern Catholics it’s required to be the same as Orthodox). Roman Catholics have a lot of options: Tridentine Mass, Novus Ordo, Anglican Use, Braga, Ambrosian, Mozarabic, and several monastic-order Rites. The Novus Ordo Mass has even more flexibility. They have wildly different traditional and modern architectural styles to choose from. They can have statues, mere paintings, or true icons-all the same to them. They have various styles of Mass settings, including any instruments in existence or none, and singing, spoken words, or total silence. They can use a local language or Latin, even if no one knows Latin. They can choose their hymns, and they can choose the readings. To us Easterners, that is chaos and anarchy. The East has 1 monastic order, and 1 theology, and its nationalities (native or adopted) that have their own Rites. Our architectural styles are based on our nationalities. Near Eastern Rites have iconostases, Middle Eastern Rites have temple veils. Our melodies are ethnic too. Every service is sung/chanted a cappella. The language is always vernacular. The hymns and readings were decided for us over 1000 years ago, and we’re grateful. Nobody will choose anything tacky or sentimental for our funerals, like “On Eagles’ Wings”. Basically, we HATE change.
@ that is true that we have more Rites and even district traditions based on language, culture, and even spirituality. If anything that is a testament to the word Catholic (for anyone who doesn’t already know means “universal” or “according to the whole”) the basis of the faith though don’t change and we put a huge emphasis on tradition. That is why I say we are quite similar maybe more in some ways than others.
@@ohhbigboy is it catholic when mexicans practice pagan rituals and act RC? or the mayan rite? Does catholic mean pantheism? Is the RCC so catholic that they even include muslims, hindus, buddhists and atheists? Because they've said the protestants are secretly in their church, your popes have no issue praying in mosques, though this was condemned as an act of apostasy by your see already.
Great job on all.
I dont want to be biased... but the Baptist positive point (about sermons) is basically what any reasonable Orthodox or Catholic homily does (basically read the Bible and explain what was read - the difference is: homilies are usually based on the Church Fathers and the Saits (at least in the Orthodox Church I attend)
Yes the book of first tuberculosis
Correct
The difference you pointed out is huge. Focus on Bible and its authority is much higher in Protestant churches. There was a study of American Christians how often they read Bible. Protestants reads 3-4 more often than Catholics.
Plus, you missed the part where preacher always assume that some listeners are not saved (even if they attend regularly).
As a Catholic, yes, we do this as well.
No catholic can explain the Bible. They believe the cracker is Jesus.
You did a fine job at not having biases towards your denomination 😉😉
Thats it, I'm starting a new denomination.
Bruh
-Joseph Smith, Circa 1830
@MarkStein-n3r True
-Jesus Christ, Circa 0
As a former Pentecostal, I would also say that the Holy Spirit is the major focus in their faith learning and practice. Baptism in the Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues, and various gifts of the Spirit are major stresses in the Pentecostal faith. It is very gifts centered and book of Acts centered. I've since moved to a more Lutheran take.
Orthodoxy☦ Truly from God. Coming from an Ex Sikh
Yay Baptists. He started with us and said nice things
I have my favorite list just off feelings and instincts and what iv listed to about my the denominations at 1. Roman Catholic because I am a catholic by birth I was baptized😉 2. Anglican, they giving me the vibe I might like the liberalism of an Anglican Church with a catholic believe system if I can find it, I enjoy the structure with more freedom than Roman Catholic 3. Eastern Orthodox because they allow intercession of saints 4. Baptist because I felt the universal priesthood of all believers is why I like Protestants more than Catholics but unfortunately they don’t pray for intercession of saints in Protestantism so what I get out of them I lose in Catholicism👎🏻 5. Lutheran I just felt I had different believe system than they did but still had enough in common to put them at top 5, 6 non denominational when I’m feeling I want full range of expression in believes I have that the other denominations don’t believe in overall I’m a Christian and I believe God is final judgement not the popes nor the bishops nor the deacons nor the priests can condemn you for Gods judgement is a mystery, so if you denomination hop it’s not a sin but that you interpret God’s word differently and that’s okay because all the other denominations do too! God is a forgiving God a God of peace, as long as you have faith in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior of sin and follow the word of God and apply the law you will be fine✝️ God bless you all and pick your favorite denomination🕊️🙌🏻
I think perhaps the biggest similarity that Baptists and Lutherans share is that almost every Baptist and Lutheran sermon I have been to has had a presentation of the gospel, as Zoomer put it “an assumption someone in the audience is not saved and needs to hear the gospel.” That’s not the case in every denomination and something I really appreciate about our Baptist brothers as a Lutheran
I have found myself increasingly drawn to a Tiny little Group in the Anglican (GAFCON) Denomination called the ECFCE. Imagine a Combination of Presbyterian Theology, Anglican Prayer and Hymn's, and Reformed Baptist style Expository Preaching.. That is them..
Sadly however, they only have 5 Churches at the Moment.
Nice hopefully they grow
@@alfieingrouille1528 Hopefully :)
Catholic here. GAFCON is a good way to go for those who can't stomach the Woke Church of England any longer. Is the ECFCE connected with bishop Richard Fenwick and that horrific mess he created up in Morcambe?
@MarkStein-n3r I was referring to how Redeemed Zoomer pointed out how RB Sermons tend to be Strongly Gospel Focused and with a deep Prioritisation of Repentance, Holiness and Evangelisation.
The ECFCE indeed practices Infant Baptism as one of the two Sacramental Means of Grace (as said, their Theology is Presbyterian!) under Covenant Theology as per Calvin's Institutes, the 39 Articles of Religion 1571 and the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith, Fear not!
Former Catholic here, I was a catechumen (still a catechumen) and I was digging deep into more of Christianity, and found Orthodoxy (Eastern) interesting. Switched denominations, and couldn't even be any more happier, Christ is Risen.
IC XC
NI KA