I didn't mention this in the video: The Naruto world is made of a supercontinent similar to Pangea, and the 5 nations alongside the nearby nations make most of the world, we don't know the true size of this nation or the world of Naruto but we can safely assume its roughly the same size as ours. The One piece world in comparison can be tens of times larger, but its covered mostly by water, you have huge nations like Wano, Alabasta, Dressrosa and Totto Land, which are between 2100 to 4000 km diameter, we're talking strictly about the major islands, it is not clear how many of these are or if the other islands are similar in size, but let's just assume that the totality of land in one piece far exceeds the one in Naruto, we could give extra points for Roger for announcing the existence of One piece, but even if we double that, it is still not gonna be enough to beat Hashirama in terms of influence, saving the world twice made too much of a big difference
Well, someone named sage of thick calves did make a video on this, specifically talking about the size and general description of Naruto's planet. And there are actually more than one continent on the planet. Distance between countries can also be really large as ninjas that can run faster than horses and trains needed 3 whole days to get from konoha to Suna. Just 2 large countries already in the same continent. The closest to each other. I recommend watching his video on this topic.
Hashirama literally invented the current shinobi system and gave the other 4 nations the bijuu. All Roger did was go everywhere and start a treasure hunt 😭 goatrama clears
Think again, Check out the maps of Naruto, as it is a supercontinent similar to pangea, you may think he influenced the 5 big nations and the nations in between, but remember that kakuzu came from the village hidden behind a waterfall which is so far into the west, a village we never saw on screen, that means that the 5 big nations weren't the only ones forming ninja villages
Its influence on the world, not the story, and besides ( SPOILER ALERT ) the one piece is a combination of a treasure, ancient weapons and knowledge, if Roger didn't discover it, someone else would, but without him, the story would be much more boring for sure, even if Oda gave a reason to luffy to reach the " Final Island " or whatever Roger's motivation was
@@isnotadrian it certainly has something to do with joyboy, but as far as it appears to be, its a treasure that mixes wealth, strength, and knowledge, you can't know for certain ofc
I love powerscaling, but I'm glad to see narrative comparisons between characters as well. Roger - helped put an end to the Rocks pirates, the most dangerous pirate crew in one piece history. - He gathered all aspects of the One Piece. This being the greatest treasure and the key to learning the secrets of the world of One Piece. - influenced thousands of pirates to set sail in search of his treasure, including Shanks, Luffy, and Buggy. Hashirama - ended the waring states period the bloodiest and harshes time of endless combat in Naruto history - created the literal entire political economic system of the Naruto world - created the most powerful village in that system - captured the bijuu and created a power balance between all of the great nations. - His very cells have been used to create armies and amplify many shinobi
You forgot that he stopped Madara from gathering the Biju's when he was alive, then played a major role in the 4th ninja war, saving the world on two occasions
@@YouzerseifYoucef a similar video of who impacted their verses more except with Naruto and Luffy would be good imo. Or just any parallels between both of these series since they’re my favorite anime.
@@jaybronx98 I was thinking of Eren vs Lelouch or something like that, still haven't made my mind yet, I had a lot of fun making this video, so i definitely would make another.
Hashirama directly impacted the resurrection of Kaguya who was going to take out everyone in the world and destroys universes… he was also instrumental in stopping that from happening… Roger starting a treasure hunt comes nowhere near comparing to this 😂
@@B00MR0ASt3D Its common, if you are a hardcore One piece fan and you see a character from your favorite anime come short to a character from another verse you would feel frustrated, some people just can't hide it, so they rage in the comments
what? no he wasn't. sure he was around for it, but he had very little to do with stopping her. That was all Team 7, Hagaromo, Obito and in a tiny bit, minato because minato helped put the other half of Kurama into Naruto.
@@YouzerseifYoucef Yeah when he announced Laugh tale was when he died but I think that's when he had the biggest impact on the whole world and every citizen of it.
Kind of a false comparison. In terms of ancient figures who set off their world's journey, i think Minato and Roger are better for that. Minato and Roger both do something in the first panel of the first chapter, and that thing leads to the main character and everything he does. And the answer to that is Roger.
In a comparison between Roger and Minato, Roger is an easy winner, Hashirama only won because of huge contribution, and he helped prevent world ending disasters twice
Minato and Roger is a weird comparison. I definitely think it should be Hashirama and Roger, then Minato and Shanks. Both Shanks and Minato are parental figure for the main character and sacrifice themselves betting on there "son". Minato sacrificing his life so Naruto can live and Shanks sacrificing his arm so Luffy can live. Roger and Hashirama both have more political and social influence on the world and should be compared through that.
@@Rdc_Dom no its not. both are mythical figures in the eyes of the two main protagonists and achieve a great thing in page one of chapter one, setting off the rest of the story. in fact i'd say minato has a bigger impact than roger as he is naruto's direct father, whereas luffy can easily still exist without roger.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 but what are your thoughts on the clear parallel between Minato and Shanks tho? I think that's a better comparison. Like you said when comparing Minato and Roger Minato is narutos father while Shanks is a father figure to Luffy
@@jaybronx98 He literally can predict attacks seconds or minutes to the future when on guard, he can coat himself against mountain busting attacks, if he collides with another equally strong character the collision can alter huge islands or destroy small ones, if you remove these hacks you get a physically strong guy, but that's just like Garou from One punch man minus his water fist style
The question is dumb, one created the entire reason a series exists and the other is just the first leader of what is now the strongest village in Naruto. God of Shinobi or not, he is just the first hokage. Absolutely goated hokage might i add.
How much did Roger changed the lives of everyone in the world? when he announced the One piece, he made the world a more dangerous place, although there were already strong pirates before he did. Hashirama did the same, he gathered the Biju monsters, which if you don't know is the equivalent of Atomic bombs in our world, then distributed them to the 5 big nations, the nations nearby like the village hidden by Rain or the sound village, he also made the world relatively safer by forming the hidden leaf, because after that every major nation created their own ninja village, but that's not what made the difference, stopping madara, and assisting in the 4th ninja war is what made him the winner, because that's two world ending events either stopped by him or stopped thanks to his help
Not really. If first hokage didn't exist, madara wouldn't be like the way he should, the rivalries wouldn't exist, he wouldn't plan tsuki no mi, even if somehow he did go that way, he'd be much easier to defeat because he wouldn't have hashirama cells. Atleast two of the major wars wouldn't exist. But sure a better comparison is sage of the six paths and Roger's influence
I didn't mention this in the video: The Naruto world is made of a supercontinent similar to Pangea, and the 5 nations alongside the nearby nations make most of the world, we don't know the true size of this nation or the world of Naruto but we can safely assume its roughly the same size as ours.
The One piece world in comparison can be tens of times larger, but its covered mostly by water, you have huge nations like Wano, Alabasta, Dressrosa and Totto Land, which are between 2100 to 4000 km diameter, we're talking strictly about the major islands, it is not clear how many of these are or if the other islands are similar in size, but let's just assume that the totality of land in one piece far exceeds the one in Naruto, we could give extra points for Roger for announcing the existence of One piece, but even if we double that, it is still not gonna be enough to beat Hashirama in terms of influence, saving the world twice made too much of a big difference
Well, someone named sage of thick calves did make a video on this, specifically talking about the size and general description of Naruto's planet.
And there are actually more than one continent on the planet.
Distance between countries can also be really large as ninjas that can run faster than horses and trains needed 3 whole days to get from konoha to Suna.
Just 2 large countries already in the same continent.
The closest to each other.
I recommend watching his video on this topic.
@Kiyokoji23 that would be amazing, thanks for the recommendation
Hashirama literally invented the current shinobi system and gave the other 4 nations the bijuu. All Roger did was go everywhere and start a treasure hunt 😭 goatrama clears
@@Just_Some_Kid07 i tried my hardest to make it a fair fight but it was never close, it was fun making this video tho
Roger influenced the entire world. Hashirama influenced the ninja continent not the whole world.
Think again, Check out the maps of Naruto, as it is a supercontinent similar to pangea, you may think he influenced the 5 big nations and the nations in between, but remember that kakuzu came from the village hidden behind a waterfall which is so far into the west, a village we never saw on screen, that means that the 5 big nations weren't the only ones forming ninja villages
But Considering the difference in size between both worlds, you may have a point
Literal ALIENS / GODS use his Cells 😭😭😭😭 what are we talking about????
@@Thenoble1j what alien gods?
@ Kaguyas race
Without roger ther won't be one piece
Its influence on the world, not the story, and besides ( SPOILER ALERT ) the one piece is a combination of a treasure, ancient weapons and knowledge, if Roger didn't discover it, someone else would, but without him, the story would be much more boring for sure, even if Oda gave a reason to luffy to reach the " Final Island " or whatever Roger's motivation was
@@YouzerseifYoucef Bro just decided he knew what the One Piece is.... Matches the video's wild speculation ig lol
@@isnotadrian it certainly has something to do with joyboy, but as far as it appears to be, its a treasure that mixes wealth, strength, and knowledge, you can't know for certain ofc
Rocks D Xebec had more impact then Gol D Roger, without possession of One Piece or Pirate King title,
Same can be said for Hashirama, that's why this is such a fascinating discussion
I love powerscaling, but I'm glad to see narrative comparisons between characters as well.
Roger
- helped put an end to the Rocks pirates, the most dangerous pirate crew in one piece history.
- He gathered all aspects of the One Piece. This being the greatest treasure and the key to learning the secrets of the world of One Piece.
- influenced thousands of pirates to set sail in search of his treasure, including Shanks, Luffy, and Buggy.
Hashirama
- ended the waring states period the bloodiest and harshes time of endless combat in Naruto history
- created the literal entire political economic system of the Naruto world
- created the most powerful village in that system
- captured the bijuu and created a power balance between all of the great nations.
- His very cells have been used to create armies and amplify many shinobi
You forgot that he stopped Madara from gathering the Biju's when he was alive, then played a major role in the 4th ninja war, saving the world on two occasions
This was a great video. Roger is a goat in his own right but people surprisingly downplay Hashiramas influence in the series.
Do you have any suggestions for me? what would you be curious about?
@@YouzerseifYoucef a similar video of who impacted their verses more except with Naruto and Luffy would be good imo. Or just any parallels between both of these series since they’re my favorite anime.
@@jaybronx98 I was thinking of Eren vs Lelouch or something like that, still haven't made my mind yet, I had a lot of fun making this video, so i definitely would make another.
@ that’s a great one too
@@jaybronx98 that would allow me to revisit Code geass, i miss it
0:04 me waiting to hear tsunadi and robain names 😂
He did raise her, but hiruzen trained her no? and wym by Robain?
Hashirama directly impacted the resurrection of Kaguya who was going to take out everyone in the world and destroys universes… he was also instrumental in stopping that from happening… Roger starting a treasure hunt comes nowhere near comparing to this 😂
That's what i said at the end of the video
Yeah I totally agree with you man idk how people are mad about these results 🙏🏽
@@B00MR0ASt3D Its common, if you are a hardcore One piece fan and you see a character from your favorite anime come short to a character from another verse you would feel frustrated, some people just can't hide it, so they rage in the comments
what? no he wasn't. sure he was around for it, but he had very little to do with stopping her. That was all Team 7, Hagaromo, Obito and in a tiny bit, minato because minato helped put the other half of Kurama into Naruto.
The same roger influences other people to become pirates and kill all innocent people 😂😂
Gol D Roger had both Pirate King title & One Peice in his possession but had little impact in the One Peice world,
When he died he had a. impact on the whole OP world, it counts.
Rocks D Xebec had more impact without One Piece or Pirate King title, but yes Gol D Roger is integral to story,
@@haroldhopkins7719 He had similar impact to Roger on High tier pirates, and WG, but on the average person Roger had more impact and it's not close.
@@Kurtofon The God valley incident, discovery of laugh tale and announcing the one piece, that's when he impacted the world the most
@@YouzerseifYoucef Yeah when he announced Laugh tale was when he died but I think that's when he had the biggest impact on the whole world and every citizen of it.
Nice video ❤
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Kind of a false comparison. In terms of ancient figures who set off their world's journey, i think Minato and Roger are better for that. Minato and Roger both do something in the first panel of the first chapter, and that thing leads to the main character and everything he does.
And the answer to that is Roger.
In a comparison between Roger and Minato, Roger is an easy winner, Hashirama only won because of huge contribution, and he helped prevent world ending disasters twice
Minato and Roger is a weird comparison. I definitely think it should be Hashirama and Roger, then Minato and Shanks. Both Shanks and Minato are parental figure for the main character and sacrifice themselves betting on there "son". Minato sacrificing his life so Naruto can live and Shanks sacrificing his arm so Luffy can live. Roger and Hashirama both have more political and social influence on the world and should be compared through that.
@@Rdc_Dom no its not. both are mythical figures in the eyes of the two main protagonists and achieve a great thing in page one of chapter one, setting off the rest of the story.
in fact i'd say minato has a bigger impact than roger as he is naruto's direct father, whereas luffy can easily still exist without roger.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 but what are your thoughts on the clear parallel between Minato and Shanks tho? I think that's a better comparison. Like you said when comparing Minato and Roger Minato is narutos father while Shanks is a father figure to Luffy
@@Rdc_Dom one more reason why i hate dragon, luffy's supposed actual father
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Rogers influence was special because his time was so short yet he accomplished so much without any hacks or broken abilities, just sheer will power.
His time wasn't short, he started his journey at the age of 25, and died at 51, that's 26 years
it feels short because we know so little
Bro just said mastery of all 3 forms of haki isn’t hax or broken abilities😂
@@jaybronx98 He literally can predict attacks seconds or minutes to the future when on guard, he can coat himself against mountain busting attacks, if he collides with another equally strong character the collision can alter huge islands or destroy small ones, if you remove these hacks you get a physically strong guy, but that's just like Garou from One punch man minus his water fist style
@@YouzerseifYoucef exactly that’s what I’m saying, roger is definitely strong with broken hax and abilities
Hashirama is destroying Rogers
I wouldn't use the word destroy here
The question is dumb, one created the entire reason a series exists and the other is just the first leader of what is now the strongest village in Naruto. God of Shinobi or not, he is just the first hokage.
Absolutely goated hokage might i add.
How much did Roger changed the lives of everyone in the world?
when he announced the One piece, he made the world a more dangerous place, although there were already strong pirates before he did.
Hashirama did the same, he gathered the Biju monsters, which if you don't know is the equivalent of Atomic bombs in our world, then distributed them to the 5 big nations, the nations nearby like the village hidden by Rain or the sound village, he also made the world relatively safer by forming the hidden leaf, because after that every major nation created their own ninja village, but that's not what made the difference, stopping madara, and assisting in the 4th ninja war is what made him the winner, because that's two world ending events either stopped by him or stopped thanks to his help
That's a horrible oversimplification of this entire discussion 😂
Not really. If first hokage didn't exist, madara wouldn't be like the way he should, the rivalries wouldn't exist, he wouldn't plan tsuki no mi, even if somehow he did go that way, he'd be much easier to defeat because he wouldn't have hashirama cells. Atleast two of the major wars wouldn't exist.
But sure a better comparison is sage of the six paths and Roger's influence
Influence or power, hashirama bodies roger
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