Cheapest tire changing stand on amazon: any good?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2019
- Bought this tire changing stand awhile back and have been trying to figure it out. Check out the video on how I use it and let me know if there’s any techniques or mods I should know about.
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I've been changing motorcycle tires for 48 years. I would call that thing a bead breaker, and a pretty nice one at that. Though I could also change a tire on it if I so chose, at nearly 60 years of age I'm not into working on the ground and wouldn't trade it for my taller, Tusk-type one without the arm. I think mine was sold as "MSR" brand when I bought it years ago. It was the first one I ever saw for sale and I bought it. Believe me, there is nothing that beats standing with the tire at waist level. I currently use a discontinued Harbor Freight bead breaker I've had for years on a work bench, but would buy that one in a heartbeat if it ever breaks.
Put it on a table and its waist high lol
@@blakeonpc8290 Ya, did it that way for years. Used screwdrivers for tire irons back in the day too, but you live and learn. My stand holds the wheel tight, and allows for access all around the tire, which makes the job exponentially easier less frustrating.
If you use the bead breaker to push the bead into the drop center of the rim, it will make it much easier to get the bead on or off on the opposite side of the rim.
finally a guy who changes tires the way the rest of us do. Nobody else seems to use nonchild friendly language in any other video. No irons flying back in their faces
Drop the tyre grip down a few notches on the lever mate . Should help 👍
I have that exact stand and use it to change mousses. Use the arm to press the bead in while you put in levers. It makes that part a toooon easier. Also you can put a tire iron in the bead when you are putting the last bead in the rim and have the metal pin on the stand hold the lever for you
I have the same tool and for tubeless trials tires it is absolutely a must have! Breaking the bead is super EZ, without it it is nearly impossible.
Longer tire irons will help. I am a fan of the ones you can order from the Honda tool catalogue. Baby powder works for mounting a new tire too. Put some inside the carcass, on the tube, and on each bead. It’ll help the beads slide on, and lessen the chance of a pinch flat. Plus you aren’t left with wd-40 or soapy water in your tire.
I think everyone just has to find the system that works for them. I like just using a Tusk stand, 3 tire levers, and windex.
I have the Tusk version. The paddle on the arm is just for breaking the bead...and lowering the bead to get spoons in. If you just focus on using it to knock the bead off its very helpful. Overall, Its a nice elevated work station to hold the tire in position so you can work your hand tools more efficiently. Its not a Rabaconda. Id love to get a standup stand but the beauty of this is it can be hung up on a wall out of the way when not in use. Ill put it on top of my workbench when I use it so I am in a standing position. Buds pro paste helps too if you've ever used it. Thanks for your vids!!
Bought one of these ! Had to lengthen the tire bead breaker ! But I made to long and it worked against me ! Will shorten it next week to see how I do ! Also use four 2 foot tyre irons to make leverage much easier 👍
Slide the bead breaker closer to the pivot point on the lever arm, you will find it’s plenty long.
I got tired of doing tires on the shop floor and went with the Tusk stand. Once I got the height of the stand dialed in tire changes went great. Using purpose designed bead lubricant (the greasy snotty kind in a tub or a tube, not the aerosol kind) made it even easier.
Changing tires is work, I use a stand to help back fatigue :)
Sometimes on a 18 inch rear wheel on soft gummy tires(or weak used sidewalls, i.e. Equilibrium), getting the bead broke is a little chore for me, the arm on your changer can help with that(if its long enough). I have an old harbor freight changer(I use for street bike tires) that has a bead breaker if I need it.
You had some trouble getting the first 3 bites of a tire off the rim, ya it kicks my butt too. I only change a tire after its been in the sun, heat does help. I have 3 big spoons I use for this(but on soft tires, regular spoons are easy on 18 inch rears(not so much on a firm 19 inch tire). If I had that changer, I would use the arm to push the bead down on the opposite side as I was working, but we just have 2 hands, so it could be much more awkward than I'm thinking, lol. I do like putting in 3 spoons at once to get the process moving. I've never tried WD40, just soap and water(not bad, I go with dawn). or armor all(leaves the sidewall shinny, lol), if I'm in a pinch, I'll try it!
Putting on the new tire, I REALLY like the Baja no pinch tool, it's amazing with a tire changer(I have a motion pro). It's my best $$ spent for tire changes(maybe the stand was the best, lol)
I've installed a mousse in a 21 inch front tire(I want no more front tire issues in the field), took me and a friend, I think having a changer with an arm would really help here, the mousse keeps the bead out of the drop center really well. If I learn to like the front mouse, I'll probably drop for a rabbaconda($$ but well thought out changer for bib mousses), to just make it easier. I change tires for 4 bikes in our family, and a couple of friends, so easy is good in my book. I'll still run a TUbliss in the rear, although my hard running kid will get a mousse in the near future(kids=Tire shredders)
I've changed so many tires on the ground(Fn tubes, lol), is this $60 changer easier on your back?(that is worth $60 IN MY BOOK!)
I've looked at this tire changer so many times(online), thinking I'd keep it in the trailer, but thanks to your vid, I'm going to pass. Although I thought it would work well on the tailgate of a pickup.
Huge thank you for making the video.
Side note, last time I went through Donner pass, it was Rain, rain, rain, the dust on your last race was EPIC(as in BAD), I felt bad for all that were there, I never, ever have seen it so bad. You did 4 of those loops? WOW
Hey brad thanks for the reply. You must have a lot of patience to change 4 tires at once! so tough. The tire in the sun trick works well, it was a rainy night but usually use a heater on them for a bit, not sure if I did on this occasion, certainly looks like they were cold how tough they were putting them on haha.
I've tried this tire changer on my work bench, it was a bit to high (I had clamped it on there too) I think the optimal height is 1.5ft taller than it is here, you want to be able to put your back into it and use your knee. but how low it is here its a bit to much back haha. I'd like to weld on a hitch receiver and stick it in the hitch. that would be a good height and help to hold it in place.
If you run DOT tires I think thats the only reason you'd really need that beed breaker arm. its nice but not that helpful.
I looked at this tire changer for awhile but I will say if I'm going camping and know I'm going to change a tire I bring it. just having it held in the stand is really nice. It was going slow here because I was trying to use the stands advantage but if you just spoon it normal using the stand to hold the tire in place it goes well
got this as well, good and inexpensive tool. You just need to get use to.
Hey man one tip from me is when you are removing the tire work on the opposite side of the valve stem. Keep up the great wood
I've got one of these, brilliant, bought mine from difference source but they're all generic more or less, brilliant when u know how to use them, I would say, in time, just beef up the bead breaker, and make them your own by adding stuff or taking away depending on what you use it for most, for example ive "insulated" the rim with thick foam that u get covering pipes so when I'm doing cruiser wheels it doesn't mark any where, and I hang mine up when not in use and installed earth magnets so all my tyre levers etc have a home so it comes off wall ready to go.
love the channel man but i have a question how do you like the lectron carb?
As mentioned below.. lower the pressure foot down a few notches so it presses the tire in towards the rim a a very slight angle.
This will keep it from slipping away and the arm will be higher up. It’s to replace the your “knee” action of holding the bead down while spooning.. it will become your third hand/bead buddy.
I have a friend that has a different brand, but very similar.
I have a harbor freight a couple miles away.. and just might get one to try.. return if it’s shit.
That 1 lever is really just a tired feet breaker. Swing that out of the way and use 3 tire spoons. I have recently got much better at changing tire. Technique is absolutely everything. Watch someone who is good at it and they dont break a sweat or struggle
These tire stands are rlly just for breaking beads
its super helpful for holding the wheel while spooning it on and off though
your swearing and struggling sound exactly like me every time I change a tire hahahah
Tusk stand and long tire irons 1- long spoon and a bead buddy. You can stand and change with the tusk. Let's you use leverage easier.
I only use the lever on mine to help get the bead into the drop center when putting mousses in
Had one of these, worked well enough, worth the money. The bead breaker is nice but it’s easy enough to do with Spoons that it’s not really worth while imo.
Just purchased the basic stand from pitpossee on RMATV. I think spoons are really affective. But fighting rim locks are a pain.
especially double rim locks hah
Defiantly move the blade down toward the hinge. When you push the lever down the blade should be at a 90 degrees to the tire. It its angled it will slip and not grab the tire as you see. If your changing a tube that bar is only good for breaking the beads. With the bibs ... its used to insert levers easier and also if the blade were longer force the tire off. Its also used for forcing the last bit of bead over the rim Cole Kirkpatrick has a video on using this style stand mounting bibs you should watch. IMO, You need better levers. The tusk HD spoons or like 2 or 3 more of the MP one you have (longer black curved one). I use a standard stand without a lever on it for bibs. Its no fuss either. Its all about technique (I hope yours has improved). You need to force the bead in the center of the rim across from where you are levering and bead buddies help this. 2 or 3. You can use a short lever as well like you did. You really need 3 good ones and a few short ones to use as bead buddies to force the tire to center.
Move the bead breaker closer to the pivot so it pushes more straight down.
The dude in the promotional video didn’t struggle at all. Just saying. Lol
I have a personal vendetta against changing tires.
Thanks Pro
I have not used it but I do have an easier idea. Why not just swap over the 17 wheel to the 19 until you burn through that tire? Or did they change the axle, break components and stuff like that?
Rizzo44 Rizzo it’s all the same but the 17 had a 51 on it plus needed to sell that bike. Would love to have two wheels tho
The lever is super handy if you run mousse.
why is that, for breaking the beed? I can't push the tire all the way off the wheel like they do with the rabiconda
For dismounting tires, the lever makes it easier to put spoons in.
Get a tusk one where you can adjust the height. Then use your body to help keep the tire in drop center works like a charm. Check out Jay Clark video on Dirtbike tv
I got this same stand. I really did not use the full features. Like that it holds the tire (center hold). The arm...eh....it helps a little, but I find sometimes I dont use it either (just forget about it). Do i find it easier than just using the garage floor and irons? yea I guess it does make it easier. Bead break is ok but standing on it would do it also. Pushing the tire off with the arm does not work really to get it off the bead...your right....too short. Maybe its the KTM rims....I had a hell of a time getting on my new Shinko tires. I dont think i have ever felt so frustrated getting tire on (and I had just bought this tire changer to help me).
Old video but next time you swap tires, TH-cam zip tie tire change. This is the method I used and worked great tire spoons suck to try and for the tire on.
The arm is only for breaking the bead and helping push the tire into the crop center. other than that it's just normal spoons.
Motion pro Bead-Pro irons.
Always choose a changer with a bead breaker if you can afford it. No brainer!
3 TireSpoon a BeadBuddy and a rubber mallet does it for me :-)
Why are you trying to use the bead breaker to install your tire?
The bead breaker is what it’s for. Not a bead putter on-er. I used to bust tires at Les Schwab…
Have you tired the baja no pinch tire tool?
That bar is really only designed to break the bead, not help seat the bead back on.
What if you put a small block of wood under the to short bead breaker pad?
Lubricate as close to the bead as possible. Your shovel is slipping on the WD40
"does the cheapest tire changing stand on Amazon work "well".?."
After switching to bibs and trying to change without the stand a few times I say it’s completely worth it now
does this tool work on tire size 180 + ?
I thought you got the Baja no pinch tool?? Have you used it yet, I’ve been looking for a vid of you using it. Been wanting to buy one but haven’t seen an honest review on it yet with a live Noob demonstration...
Jasun Carter this is pre baja and the baja was a way better investment than this. I will be doing a full video on the tool for sure with the struggles I had with using the tool at first but then figuring out what I did wrong and then getting better and better every use. Now when someone gets a flat at camp I’m stoked to get it out and use, the baja has been pretty game changing!
Nice! This is what I was hoping you would say, since I just ordered one last night. Excited to see the vid on it you put together!👍🏻
Yeah let's see a review of the baja tool
Eric Berg sorry been it got buried by other videos. It’s filmed just not edited (that takes way longer!)
at 8:48 "sprocket to be up" - hmmm.. thats the brake rotor dude..... the sprocket is the jaggered thing on the Other side.. ;)
3 steel motion pro or zip-ty brand tire spoons are necessary, those short pointy motion pro levers aren’t it, the long square pointed irons are for a bib, and the aluminum one is mostly for trail side. It’s the tire irons giving you a lot of trouble
the arm is for breaking the bead.
The arm works pushing off tire bead if there is a mousse in there. The arm pushes on top bead and mousse and the mousse pushes on the bottom bead right off the rim. I don't use the lever on tube changes, not much of a benefit
yes if extended it will pu off one time ..same a robo arm from oz
Do you use this tire changing stand or have one that works better?
@@tareksaba1ify Feel like I've seen guys push the tire onto the rim and off the rim with that?
@@tareksaba1ify I’ve done the same thing with a cardboard box in winter when my solar version is out of commission (sun). Considered making a plywood version though, did you line the inside with anything like reflectix tape or insulation board?
I am watching and thinking I'll pass on this and stick to the old car tyre on the garage floor and the 8 bars. This should be sold as a "stand", I don't need something extra to break a bead normally. I thought maybe the threaded rod would rotate a big bar and remove the tyre. Thanks for the video, saved me $50 and a lot of aggravation and disappointment.
Does the cheapest tire changing stand on amazon work WELL?
I may be wrong but even with the robaconda i dont think you use the arm for mounting a tire....only removing.
Leave the spoon underneath the pole that sticking out
The pole that's sticking out is ur third hand.
Put a piece of drywall sanding screen between the bead breaker jaw and the tire help keep it FROM slipping I use kerosene makes your tire slip on over the rim en dries fast en tacky. I always scrub the bead with kerosene a rag till they are dry en tacky especially if you're not running bead locks then reapply kerosene for the mount WD 40 IS basically kerosene BUT DOES have a negotiable amount of that persistent slippy silicon 👍😆
Mark Young those are some expert tips, sounds like you’ve changed a lot of tires and experimented with a lot of stuff haha
I purchased the Tusk tire changer stand and wished it had the bead breaker built on like the Amazon model. Other than that it works very well for me.
Looks like that arm is only good for breaking the bead, I think the robo's can move the arm back a bit more and push the tire from futher away from the bead and can be used to push the tire off and push the bead down to get your iron under it as well as push down the last bite
You’d find it easier if you adjusted the position of the bead breaker. You have it angled all wrong
Adjust your breaker plate down on the handle 2,3? holes so it engages the bead DOWN an into rim.. ya might hafta fuck with till ya find the hole shot.. my buddy even drilled his own holes.. oh yeah he also beat on the hinge that's wraps the pin so it doesn't swing so freely.. easier for those .. fuck, where'd I set that 3rd hand at moments witch are abundant?.. good luck
Its just to break the bead on the tire
What is the point of the bead buddy?
So the tire doesn't pop off the rim every time you pull the spoons
jaredv408 I like your thinking
@@jrodfolyfe
No, the bead buddy is supposed to slide, and keep, the bead down into the drop center of the wheel, across from where you are using the spoons for getting that last bit of bead over the rim without tearing or damaging the bead of the tire..
This is meant for changing a mousse in a very short time. If you want to see the proper way to use this tool check out the rabaconda youtube.
You've got the shovel mounted too far toward the handle on your rig. loosen that shovel bolt and lower it two notches. It'll work much better. You would benefit from using the shovel to hold the first side you started by hand down into the drop center. While holding it in place with the shovel you can then work your way around with the spoons.
Watch your head, it hurts like hell when the bead breaker falls
Trade that thing in for a 5 gallon bucket. It’s a way better investment. 👌🏻
Check Rabaconda’s promotional video for the technique
I find these to shallow to push the bead off
I use the cheapest tire changing stand. A 5 gallon bucket. But I would like a real stand one day.
better than piece of cardboard I used on the ground for years haha. I like the big bolt that goes through this and holds the wheel a bit
Dawn dish soap works better than wd40
Looks like it made things way more complicated
avoid wd40 and soapy spray- for $9 bucks harbor freight online get a heat gun- heat it up -use 3-5 irons and your bead system - take you 10 minutes and your done and zero mess :)
Rabaconda man. Doesn’t really help with taking it off because of tubliss . Other than breaking the bead. Putting it on, I literally slide on a bead buddy, lube the tire, push the tire on. So fast!
thats rad. why doesn't it help with taking the tire off on tubliss?
Can’t push the tire through the rim on take off because it catches on the tubliss. So you have to spoon it off on each side. But that is cake! Ideally mousses but at 100$ a pop I’m gooood.
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i think its just a bead presser
I have to ask if this tire changer is missing parts, because I noticed you didn't use the wing nut to hold tire on center shaft, and there is just something wrong with calling it a tire changer when it doesn't have attachments to lift bead over rim lip and reseat new tire bead back under rim lip, may be a false advertisement claim here on product, you're still basically doing 80% of the job so guess it is what it is...
Who's playing drums?
haha roomate
Trash can works good on resting the wheel on.
Didn't need the middle-school band practice in the background, otherwise it was good.
I think I'm faster with my 5 gallon bucket and 2 tire levers then that machine. I'll pass lol. Cut the thing off n use it without the beed buddy, good ol spoons
enduro trucker Ernie Desjardins LOL right! The better investment has been the Baja no pinch tool. It took some time to figure out but feel like its super efficient now
@@TrailBoundco and prevents scratches on painted rims, which is another no brainer plus,!
First: The lever on the top is only for Breaking the Bead ONLY.
Second: If you understand the following principle, it will make tire installation with the levers much easier... (Two or three 24" tire irons wouldn't hurt either. Those short ones are for bicycles, mopeds & use in a small dirt bike tool kit)
"Drop Center"
Most wheels will have a portion of the barrel that is bent inward, creating a ringlike area around the barrel that is closer to the centerline of the wheel than the rest of the barrel. In order to mount a tire that has the same inner diameter as the wheel's outer diameter, one side of the tire must be placed into this depression on the wheel so that the tire can “slide over” just enough to let the other side of the tire slip over the rim edge. This “drop center” will be closer to one or the other edge of the wheel. When the drop center is closer to the face of the wheel, it is known as a “front-mount” wheel and can be placed on a tire mounter with the face up. The tire is then mounted over the outer face of the wheel. On many “deep-dish” wheels, however, it is not possible to place the drop center near the front face because of the dish, and so the drop center is placed closer to the inboard edge of the wheel. These wheels are known as “reverse-mount”, and must be carefully clamped onto the mounter with the face down.
Third: When Journeyman Mechanics see a novice act like this... it reminds us of the old addage... "Looks Like a 🐒Monkey🐵 Fookin a Football🏈".
www.liveabout.com/wheel-anatomy-201-beads-and-flanges-3234479
It may work on a small tire but it is worthless on a 16 inch Harley tire. the bead breaking part is too short and the screw that holds it in position pops out of place don't waste your money.
I found it works awesome with bibs on Dirtbike tires 18-21
@@TrailBoundco That is just a big bicycle tire try it on a real motorcycle tire. The pry bar part hits the rim well before the part used to break the bead can even make good contract.
Build a wooden stand and mount it on the stand. About 30 inches tall. Make the stand bottom wider that the hoop is by twice. Working on the ground is a bitch. Plus you are using the device wrong. I'll.make a video and send it too yoo.
Okay last time I checked there is no breaking of the beads on dirt bike tires their tube type tires so unless something changed here in the last sixty years or something however that tool looks like it doesn't work
Scratch those rims 😫
Waste of money ?
no I use it all the time, much better than just a bucket or ground. but not really a mechanical advantage like a rabiconda.. but because the tire is held better it is helpful for sure! worth the price I'd say
Changing tires suck no matter what!
personally don't see any use of this stand...
You are doing it wrong.
Foolish