How to Troubleshoot & Bypass Bad Starter Solenoid on John Deere S240 and X310 series Lawn Mowers
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- How to Troubleshoot and Bypass Bad MIU12537 Starter Solenoid Relay Switch on John Deere S240 X300 X310 X350 X370 X380 X394 series Lawn Mowers, and ATVs and older cars.
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I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.
This was the best explanation of this situation I’ve seen on… on TH-cam. Thanks for posting it❤
Thank you! I got this now! Your video reminded me of my father-in-law, he knew all sorts of trick! I've started trucks by shortingout the solenoid! Thanks!
Thank you for posting this
This was perfect, thanks for the walk through video of bypassing the solenoid! 👍
I have the exact same issue, have you made a video of how to replace the solenoid; checked your channel but did not see one. - You do a great job explaining things, hoped I could see how you did it. - Great Job!!
I did not. I figured it was too simple. Take the old one out and reverse everything to put the new one in. Disconnect battery positive cable first though.
The bypass worked. Thank you!
I did notice that it started without needing the bypass some time after I turned it off. I’m guessing that it’s only a matter of time before I’ll need to replace the solenoid.
Worked for me! New solenoid is in the mail. Thanks
Fantastic video. Thank you. It worked like a charm.
Just the help I needed, thanks.
That's great. I will give it a try tomorrow. thank you in any event.
Thank you for your video!
You.Are.AWESOME!
Awesome it worked, got it started :)
Thanks for sharing. You have a new sub. 🦅
I've been troubleshooting this issue all day. Should have checked the control voltage first on the solenoid. I was getting 12VDC on the smaller wires on top of the solenoid and no bueno. So that told me it was definitely the solenoid. Your video helped, but might want to put checking the voltage on the control side of the solenoid to make sure it reads 12VDC when you turn the key. Then I tried jumping the power on the solenoid to verify I do get a good start to make 100% sure that's my only problem. Thanks for your video!
Thanks for the tip!
Thanks.
Thanks!!!
Thanks
Thanks mate, I tried what you advised to get my mower to start. Amazing, my wife reckons it's the first time in our 32 years of marriage that I have shown any handyman skill, but I can't take the credit. Thanks again mate, greetings from Australia 🇦🇺 and God bless.
Glad it helped
@PirateStu Hi Stu, I replaced solenoid but still nothing, do you have any suggestions? Thanks.
@@michaelcody3829 only a few things it could be. One is a loose connection. The other is the starter, and the other is the starter switch. If shorting out the solenoid works, then you starter is good. I'd try replacing the switch. Here's a link for the S240 switch. amzn.to/49778BG
LOL! Same here, but I got as far as replacing the belt and air filter, and now it won't start. Makes a loud squealing or humming noise, which sounds normal, but it's not kicking in, or turning over, as they say.
I've also used jumper cables but the driver is more convenient
Excellent
Thank you and God bless so I could order the proper part awesome video
I got a push button starter with cables attached Harbor Freight. Hooked the camp on one side of solenoid ,too the other side of solenoid. Cable's are marked red and black. Pushed the button down and my mower turned over. In process of getting a new solenoid....
"camp"? What is a camp?
I had a ford with a bad solenoid and this is how we would start it
I started many an old car that way. Bare-handled pliers worked great.
i have the same problem but when i try to start it it it makes a rpid clicking noise, i can bypass it just like you said in the video. Do you think i just need to replace the solenoid?
If it starts when you bypass it, then yes you have a bad solenoid. A low battery can also cause them to click like that.
I did that bypass to my riding lawnmower tha Starter was cracking but didn't say on
Sorry it didn't work for you. Sounds like you have additional troubles.
Does it matter the placement of the two leads? Or can the lead that goes to the starter be screwed in on the top, and the one for the battery on the bottom? I'm asking because we may have switched the placement. it does crank but it just won't start the engine.
Not 100% sure, but I think it does. If reversed, your starter could run backwards, which means your motor is going backwards, and it won't work right that way.
it does not matter the two big leads can be swapped all they do is conn. battery to starter when they are shorted the two small lead conn. to a coil inside solenoid when battery is connected with switch key they short two big bolts inside solenoid
@@PirateStu not correct read my comment below
Checked and bypassed all the safety switches....no luck....battery is charged and good....so it must be the selenoid or starter.....sucks!
I have a John Deere XR 30 and it is not starting it is turning over but won't start.. i was using its band it run our of full i added som e new fuel and it won't start i think it may have got some muck in the field tank. I have removed the small fuel filter to see if any fuel is coming out of the tank and nothing was pumping through how do I remove the tank to clean it or empty the tank can you help please.
Sorry, I haven't had to remove my tank, but if I do, I'll post a video. Try putting some Seafoam additive into your gas. It's worth a shot.
What does the screwdriver need to come in contact with between those 2 bolts?
Just those 2 bolts. You're shorting them out to make a connection.
just replaced it and still won't start. very sluggish when bypassing
I'm not there, but that sounds like either a bad battery, or a corroded or greasy cable connection. Try cleaning all your connectors first.
i HAVE A X300 AND WILL NOT CRANK. BATTERY IS PERFECT. i CANNOT LOCATE THE STARTER SOLONOID.iTS 2010 MODEL.AND FOLLOWED THE RED CABLE FROM BATTERY AND IT IS CONNECTED TO A STARTER. IS THIS MODEL HAVEC A STARTER AND SOLONOID BUILT TOGETHE .IF I HAVE TO CHANGE THIS HOW CAN I DO IT MYSELF
I'm not sure what you have or how to help. The solenoids on cars are usually on the starter, so it's possible. I would look for 2 wires that are about the same size, and assume that those are the two that you want to connect/short, but please do so at your own risk!
When I do the screwdriver/solenoid test, it just makes a loud squealing noise and nothing is turning. Any ideas? Starter? I want to see if the shaft on the starter is stuck in the up or down position but I don't know how to access it. That is where I'm at. Any suggestions? The battery is @ 12.1 volts. Later: I took out the main engine cover, sprayed the top parts of starter with liquid wrench and waiting few minutes and the mower started right up. I noticed when I went to put the circular grated cover on the very top of the unit, that it left a 1/4" gap, so I flipped it upside down and now there is a nice seal around the edge so leaves and sticks can't get in. I thought this was really peculiar the way it was designed. It's the E130. I was also wondering, don't we have the technology to make things that don't rust and can last a lifetime? It's time for our civilization to switch to making products that last instead of manufacturers making products that need to be replaced every 5 to 10 years due to rust and worn out parts. Tell the globalist's that and be sure to mention the climate change hoax. They want to use the climate change hoax when it benefits them only.
If you have to use a screwdriver to actuate the solenoid, then either the solenoid is bad, or possibly the starter switch. What happens after you bypass it is a different problem, so it could be a bad starter, but if it was only the starter, then the switch would still activate the solenoid and THEN you'd hear the loud squealing noise. Make sense? I'd say you have 2 problems.
so when the cylinoid is not working its just NOTHING for sound, if its the starter does it make the initial sound but will not engage?
Correct, if the solenoid isn't working, you get nothing. If the solenoid is working and you turn the key, you'll probably hear a click, and then if you hear nothing, it's probably the starter.
I have the same issue, but not convinced the solenoid is the problem. I'm not getting any power to the solenoid on the small purple wire, so solenoid won't pull in. Going to replace the relay.....
there is a fuse in line from battery to key switch easy t o replace ---30 amp plug in that will remove battery from small wire on solenoid easy to test this is connect wire from red battery wire to small wire on solenoid if it spins starter replace the fuse ------ make sure your battery is ok by shorting 2 big bolts on solenoid this should spin starter if so this tells you battery and starter are ok
@@frankdavidson9675 turns out the display module was bad. Good thing it’s under warranty !
Would you have any idea why a X310 would crank over without turning the key. I pulled it out of storage, put the battery in and attach the terminals. It started to crank without even turning the key on.
It could be a shorted solenoid, or a shorted switch. Try disconnecting the plug on the back of the ignition switch. If it still tries to start, it's probably the solenoid. If it doesn't, then you've probably got a bad switch.
@@PirateStu Thank you. I did pull the plug, cleaned the terminals and it acted like it was going to be okay. After it started I turned it off and the starter continued to run. Bad switch, as you suggested, is probably the issue.
@@PirateStu well, I installed a new ignition switch and solenoid. That worked one time and when I turned it off the starter Continued to run. How does the starter continue to run with the ignition switch plug pulled? I must have a short in a wire somewhere but I find that hard to believe because the mower only has 81 total hours. *UPDATE* it is a corroded fuel/starter relay. Man I hate electrical issues.
@@Tom-uf2um glad you figured it out. Thanks for sharing the solution.
What can cause it to turn over but not fast enough to start or.
A bad battery?
I bought a new starter solenoid and mine still will not start
Well that sucks. Let us know what it ends up being.
@@PirateStu ok
Mine must be starter motor then it turns a couple of times and stops, starter motor feels extremely hot to touch, I replaced battery and magneto/spark plug , it clicks the n turns twice
It could be the starter.
@@PirateStu hi, i am not having any luck yet, i put in a new starter, tried 3 new battery's, checked the solenoid and tired a new magneto, it engine turns around once at most and i hear like a gas being released in the engine after each time by hand what can it be?
@@honorabilis1 sorry I don't know. Maybe cylinder compression is too high for the starter. Try taking out the spark plug and see if it will turn over then.
@@PirateStu yea i took it out and it turns over but not with the spark plug in i put a new one of those in, so not sure how sort the compression being too high
@@honorabilis1 that tells me the starter or battery doesn't have enough power to compress the air in the cylinder. Can you hook it up to a charger, or jump with a car battery?
It sparked
Yeah, usually a lot!
At least you have a click
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You have an S240? how long have you had it? how do you like it? will you be doing a video review of that mower? can it mow hills like this? th-cam.com/video/9_3qCmCmlIg/w-d-xo.html I think it has the same transmission as that John Deere D170.
I've probably had it for 4 years. It handles hills pretty well and I think it would make it up the one in your video. I'd recommend checking the "Drive" belt. It may be old and a little stretched out. This is not the mower deck belt. The drive belt comes directly off the bottom of the mower and runs through a couple of drive engagement pulleys, and then to the top of the transmission.
@@PirateStu ok thanks. do you get snow where you live? have you used the S240 for plowing snow?
@@mrbubetube I have not used it for plowing. I have a 33hp Kubota tractor for that! I did notice that you have regular lawn tread tires. Since I have hills, I always put on Ag tires which makes a world of difference for me.
Saw-luh-noid. Not sill-luh-noid.
John deere lawn and garden tractors are garbage pure trash
That’s a RELAY not solenoid.
Thanks Crap!
@@PirateStu oh no. I think I just upset someone. Relax, get your Teddy bear and go to your safe place. It’ll all be better tomorrow.
@@doncrap9627 I think someone doesn't understand the meaning of "Thanks". Besides, I don't get upset by Crap on the internet.
Thanks!
Thanks for the comment!