I love learning more about random LRR Lore! I've known and loved the "and then he cascaded INTO ANOTHER BLOODBRAID ELF!" Gag, but never knew that that was a Wheeler story this whole time.
57:58 My first deck was a collection of all the red cards people at my school didn't want back in 6th edition. It was beyond terrible but I still loved playing with it!
Re: Blasphemous Act and Scryfall... That's the normal way Scryfall works. If you're looking at an older card with a bunch of reprints, it will only show a certain number of reprints after the printing you're looking at. To view ALL printings, you have to click on the 'View all peints -->' link at the bottom of the list.
Re: Baby Jace (Jace Beleren), at about 43:00, the reason it was so good is that it was pre-emptive removal for their Jace the Mind Sculptor (since if they played theirs into your baby Jace they both leave play at the time, and then you could play yours). The move was to turn 3 baby Jace and then later tick him down to zero on the turn you wanted to play your Mind Sculptor.
Regarding Mono, Poly, and Continuous artifacts: For some reason, Richard Garfield believed it was very important that artifacts (and only artifacts) have their ability costs encoded in the type line rather than the rules text. "Mono" artifacts were artifacts which required a tap cost to activate their ability, "Poly" artifacts did not need to tap to activate. It took about a year till they realised this was pointless because every other card type just put it in the rules text. Continuous artifacts had a static ability that "turned off" when tapped and this continued (no pun intended) to be a low key design feature of artifacts for about a decade after "Continuous" ceased appearing on the type line. Despite Wheeler's claim to the contrary, Howling Mine was a continuous artifact. Another famous example is Winter Orb, you can use some effect to tap your Winter Orb to break the symmetry of its stasis effect.
I had a Knights deck during Shadowmoor/Eventide. I had 2 Wiltleaf Lieges in my deck and I had both in my opening hand against my friend who was playing a Hollowborn Barghest deck. They went first and turn 1 Raven's Crime'd. I hit them with a 4/4 turn 1. They retraced the Raven's Crime turn 2 and I hit them with 2 6/6's turn 2.
I recall having a janky UG deck in that Standard with a copy of Murkfiend, but the best part was I went up against a guy with UB faeries and won. The best part was using Snakeform on his Oona as he attacked with it and killing it with my blockers.
I will say this about Thistledown Liege, it slotted into the Dominaria United Knights kindred deck immediately and it's been house every time I've cast it, but until that exact deck was printed I would agree it was not amazing.
They didn't mention it here but I imagine there aren't many examples of anthems with Flash, as it effectively makes them combat tricks for your whole board.
So with what happened on Scryfall with Blasphemous Act: in the sidebar on a card's Scryfall page, it only shows some number of printings (I think 10) that are temporally adjacent to the one you're looking at. You need to _View All Printings_ if you need to find a specific printing of a card that has been reprinted on the level of Blasphemous Act or Swords to Plowshares or what have you.
I run Oath of Lieges in my Kynaios & Tiro group hug EDH deck. I used it to ramp an opponent's 4C Omnath deck so fast that they couldn't trigger Omnath anymore. Shit's cash, yo.
Mazirek was the first Commander I ever built around. It was so long ago that Treasure tokens didn't even exist yet and I was using Eldrazi Scions for ramp. My favorite memory with it was someone not realizing he had flying after doing a convoluted loop with Thrulls and giving me 21 power
Regarding Mind Ravel's art, the gloved hand always makes me think of Darth Vader, like he's Force-choking the brain golem. I also started playing during the Ice Age / Alliances era, and my favorite deck was a kitchen-table Necropotence deck. Turn one Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter, followed by Hymns, Black Knights, Order of the Ebon Hand, and Necropotence. Couple of Drain Lifes and a single Lake of the Dead, and you've got a mean one, Mr Grinch.
It's logical how Graham's mind went to treasure on Mazirek, but fun fact, Mazirek is two years senior to treasure tokens. I had a Mazirek deck back in the day, and for me the height of spice was triggering off your opponents' fetch lands.
Bladewing the Risen was the first card that made me build a deck around it. I loved Bladewing's Thrall with it. I don't think it was any good, but it felt good.
Mazirek wasn’t anti-treasure tech when printed, though. It certainly is now, but believe it or not there was a time before treasure tokens! They’re actually pretty recent additions to the game
They didn’t say that’s what it was designed for, just that it serves that purpose effectively. It also just as effectively supports you using treasures too.
In addition to a spin-off of choosing a word, a spin-off just focused on cycles of cards would be cool, especially for cycles were only one card is remembered.
57:59 Wheeler saying old MTG is shit is so funny cuz every other tcg is worse by a stratospheric degree. It was so cool to open a Yugioh booster and have over half the pack is comprised of genuinely useless cards with zero playablility.
I'm surprised that no one commented on how Blasphemous Act is partly responsible for how we have a cross-format sub-archetype called "Aristocrats". (Ask your parents) It looks like Tom Martell's PT Gatecrash interview video may be lost to time.
@@Arkouchie That's feels incredibly arbitrary. If an undead made entirely of bones has some flesh hanging off it, is it a skeleton? How much flesh before it'd be considered a zombie?
re: Blasphemous Act being the red way to do a wrath, it's actually considered a bend now! 13 damage is functionally the same as just killing a creature, which red shouldn't be able to do. This is why we haven't gotten a "13 damage to a creature" card since Innistrad.
Not even a bend, it's an outright break. Although it's not really for doing too much damage, it's more for doing it too cheaply. You're looking at like, at least 6 mana if not more to have sweepers like that in red. Like Star of Extinction is fine, but Star of Extinction you're not casting for 3 mana. Blasphemous Act falls into a spot where not only is it basically a full blown wrath, but instead of costing more than wrath of god it's often the same or cheaper.
They would only print 13 damage in an Innistrad set, because cheeky inclusions of 13 is Innistrad's thing. There are still big damage sweepers, such as Star of Extinction, but as noted by the previous commenter, none really that are Vanquish the Horde analogues.
Wheeler should totally have a chicken sandwich for lunch
I agree but only if he pairs it with like a nice cranberry salad get that tang going
Bratwurst and Sauerkraut
Or a real ham sandwich
Skip lunch, just have some delicious tea.
Good news for Graham, Bladewing had a more recent printing in a commander set, and has finally decomposed enough to become a Dragon Skeleton!
I love learning more about random LRR Lore! I've known and loved the "and then he cascaded INTO ANOTHER BLOODBRAID ELF!" Gag, but never knew that that was a Wheeler story this whole time.
57:58 My first deck was a collection of all the red cards people at my school didn't want back in 6th edition. It was beyond terrible but I still loved playing with it!
Re: Blasphemous Act and Scryfall...
That's the normal way Scryfall works. If you're looking at an older card with a bunch of reprints, it will only show a certain number of reprints after the printing you're looking at. To view ALL printings, you have to click on the 'View all peints -->' link at the bottom of the list.
Thank you for having me, its great to see my favorite TTC segment.
"Blightning; Bloodbraid, Blightning; Bit Blast, Bloodbraid, Blightning" is a great little tongue twister.
🅱lightning; 🅱lood🅱raid, 🅱lightning; 🅱it 🅱last, 🅱lood🅱raid, 🅱lightning
Re: Baby Jace (Jace Beleren), at about 43:00, the reason it was so good is that it was pre-emptive removal for their Jace the Mind Sculptor (since if they played theirs into your baby Jace they both leave play at the time, and then you could play yours). The move was to turn 3 baby Jace and then later tick him down to zero on the turn you wanted to play your Mind Sculptor.
Regarding Mono, Poly, and Continuous artifacts: For some reason, Richard Garfield believed it was very important that artifacts (and only artifacts) have their ability costs encoded in the type line rather than the rules text. "Mono" artifacts were artifacts which required a tap cost to activate their ability, "Poly" artifacts did not need to tap to activate. It took about a year till they realised this was pointless because every other card type just put it in the rules text. Continuous artifacts had a static ability that "turned off" when tapped and this continued (no pun intended) to be a low key design feature of artifacts for about a decade after "Continuous" ceased appearing on the type line. Despite Wheeler's claim to the contrary, Howling Mine was a continuous artifact. Another famous example is Winter Orb, you can use some effect to tap your Winter Orb to break the symmetry of its stasis effect.
A surprise Liege-cast was very welcome
I never tire of these!
I could listen to Wheeler talk Magic all the live-long day
Welcome to Liegetalk, the podcast dedicated to lieges.
I had a Knights deck during Shadowmoor/Eventide. I had 2 Wiltleaf Lieges in my deck and I had both in my opening hand against my friend who was playing a Hollowborn Barghest deck. They went first and turn 1 Raven's Crime'd. I hit them with a 4/4 turn 1. They retraced the Raven's Crime turn 2 and I hit them with 2 6/6's turn 2.
I recall having a janky UG deck in that Standard with a copy of Murkfiend, but the best part was I went up against a guy with UB faeries and won. The best part was using Snakeform on his Oona as he attacked with it and killing it with my blockers.
Wheeler's poly joke is exploding my brain.
LRR post Kickstarter;
FINALLY! WE HAVE A "TARP BUDGET!"
I will say this about Thistledown Liege, it slotted into the Dominaria United Knights kindred deck immediately and it's been house every time I've cast it, but until that exact deck was printed I would agree it was not amazing.
They didn't mention it here but I imagine there aren't many examples of anthems with Flash, as it effectively makes them combat tricks for your whole board.
So with what happened on Scryfall with Blasphemous Act: in the sidebar on a card's Scryfall page, it only shows some number of printings (I think 10) that are temporally adjacent to the one you're looking at. You need to _View All Printings_ if you need to find a specific printing of a card that has been reprinted on the level of Blasphemous Act or Swords to Plowshares or what have you.
Damn, being reminded of the Jund Menace and Jund Washout, those were certainly days.
29:45 Riven shoutout! Imagine the shenanigans of a Myst-themed UB set...
I run Oath of Lieges in my Kynaios & Tiro group hug EDH deck. I used it to ramp an opponent's 4C Omnath deck so fast that they couldn't trigger Omnath anymore. Shit's cash, yo.
Love the Liege talk; I have a dumb WUBRG beats deck that just runs all ten of them XD
The Cori Frump is epic and glorious ❤❤❤
Mazirek was the first Commander I ever built around. It was so long ago that Treasure tokens didn't even exist yet and I was using Eldrazi Scions for ramp. My favorite memory with it was someone not realizing he had flying after doing a convoluted loop with Thrulls and giving me 21 power
Love these episodes!!! Hopefully next time it’ll be a ”guess the card” version.
I love that the thirsty lions flavor text is relevant to its ability
Mirage block is a flavour text treasure trove.
@@kevinwestermann1001as long as you avert your eyes from quite possibly the worst flavor text on a Magic card, which is on Reparations.
@@collinbeal Sorry I read your card. Here's some comedy gold.
@@kevinwestermann1001 lol
Ironically, the Jund era of standard also saw some amount of Quenchable Fire play which is the latest take on Mtenda Lion.
Regarding Mind Ravel's art, the gloved hand always makes me think of Darth Vader, like he's Force-choking the brain golem.
I also started playing during the Ice Age / Alliances era, and my favorite deck was a kitchen-table Necropotence deck. Turn one Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter, followed by Hymns, Black Knights, Order of the Ebon Hand, and Necropotence. Couple of Drain Lifes and a single Lake of the Dead, and you've got a mean one, Mr Grinch.
Btw, Blaphemous Act DID receive a reprinting in Warhammer 40k. It was in fact in the Ruinous Powers precon
It's logical how Graham's mind went to treasure on Mazirek, but fun fact, Mazirek is two years senior to treasure tokens. I had a Mazirek deck back in the day, and for me the height of spice was triggering off your opponents' fetch lands.
Bladewing the Risen was the first card that made me build a deck around it. I loved Bladewing's Thrall with it. I don't think it was any good, but it felt good.
Mazirek wasn’t anti-treasure tech when printed, though. It certainly is now, but believe it or not there was a time before treasure tokens! They’re actually pretty recent additions to the game
They didn’t say that’s what it was designed for, just that it serves that purpose effectively. It also just as effectively supports you using treasures too.
Balefire Liege goes hard in General Ferrous. Every multicolor spell you cast makes a 6/6 and lightning helixes somebody.
It better be twice as good!!
I hope he mentions the M15 "Staff of" cycle! 😂
always love these!
very excited for the liege podcast
Loved Memnite in Tempered Steel decks.
Classic "LRR don't remember LRR", Dragons Claw as sideboard tech in red mirror was a joke in Friday Nights...
I actually only remember the card Dragon Claw because of the episode of Friday Nights where Alex gets into a monored mirror match lmao
Oath of Lieges is an all star in my Owlbear cub commander deck!
Wheeler's specific brand of The 'Tism is so impressive. Wish I had such an impressive memory for ANYTHING
In addition to a spin-off of choosing a word, a spin-off just focused on cycles of cards would be cool, especially for cycles were only one card is remembered.
Or cycles that never have been finished.
Gaeas Liege is the SaffronOlive invitational, especially the new art
Wheeler should eat ham, egg, and cheese on a bagel for lunch a handful of days ago.
Im still listening to the list of lieges but (joke) i think you are forgetting aragorn the uniter
Wheeler should eat a Cheese Slipper and a bottle of dark red wine, 12 hours ago.
Why should he eat a bottle?
Love scryfall roulette so much.
Thats a cool button
So Wheeler doesn't always say his line. 😮
Say "Bit Blast Bloodbraid Blightning" five times fast.
Blightning aka Cracklin' Smote Brains
Is Cameron always so quiet on TTC? or does he have the mic too far?
Thistledown Liege and Mirrorweave are in the same colours, just sayin.... I went top 8 in a PTQ with EOT Liege, Main Phase Mirrorweave, swing for 40
I missed Bandcamp Friday...
57:59 Wheeler saying old MTG is shit is so funny cuz every other tcg is worse by a stratospheric degree. It was so cool to open a Yugioh booster and have over half the pack is comprised of genuinely useless cards with zero playablility.
I'm surprised that no one commented on how Blasphemous Act is partly responsible for how we have a cross-format sub-archetype called "Aristocrats". (Ask your parents)
It looks like Tom Martell's PT Gatecrash interview video may be lost to time.
For Graham, what is the flesh line for distinguishing a zombie from a skeleton?
Zombies are corpses resurrected wrong, skeletons are animated bones. It's like the difference between a homunculus and a golem.
@@Arkouchie That's feels incredibly arbitrary.
If an undead made entirely of bones has some flesh hanging off it, is it a skeleton? How much flesh before it'd be considered a zombie?
A zombie uses its necrosed muscles to move, while a skeleton moves using a telekinesis-like effect on its bones.
Jungle Lion does what Mtendon't.
For lunch you should eat
How much of Graham's career these days consists of reading cards in an engaging way? :b
You should eat plastic cheese it’s reaaaaaally good better than normal cheese
re: Blasphemous Act being the red way to do a wrath, it's actually considered a bend now! 13 damage is functionally the same as just killing a creature, which red shouldn't be able to do. This is why we haven't gotten a "13 damage to a creature" card since Innistrad.
Not even a bend, it's an outright break. Although it's not really for doing too much damage, it's more for doing it too cheaply. You're looking at like, at least 6 mana if not more to have sweepers like that in red. Like Star of Extinction is fine, but Star of Extinction you're not casting for 3 mana. Blasphemous Act falls into a spot where not only is it basically a full blown wrath, but instead of costing more than wrath of god it's often the same or cheaper.
They would only print 13 damage in an Innistrad set, because cheeky inclusions of 13 is Innistrad's thing. There are still big damage sweepers, such as Star of Extinction, but as noted by the previous commenter, none really that are Vanquish the Horde analogues.
I bought a box of Born of the Gods when it was new.
I pulled literally 4 Revel of the Fallen Gods....disappointment every pack.
wheeler should have pierogies for lunch
❤
Cameron should have the mic closer to his mouth or something, hes quiet
God if I could meet a girl who only plays Jund.
Ah yes scryfall roulette, the premier filler episode of the format
Fourth
Meow
Savannah Lion does what Mtendoesn't.