Damascus Of Broken Bandsaw Blades
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- Trying to recycle steel from all the bandsaw blade I broke in 5 years.
00:00 Material Preparation
02:39 Forge Weld
04:22 Cleanup
05:32 Etch
05:56 Ring
09:17 Conclusion
Sulfuric acid used to remover rust, dust and grease. Then neutralized with baking soda and water.
Billet stick welded and heated with coke forge. Borax used as flux.
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When you heated the welded stack it started to warp and open between layers, no amount of flux can stop that from oxidizing. A canister can be used along with powdered steel, it must be sealed completely to keep from oxidizing and each blade needs to be ground clean.
Cheers
You tried something, it didn't work, and you learned something. So did we. thank you! 👍👍
SPOILER !!!!
And ruined it. Cheers.
Ah good old fake Damascus circa 1800
Heck yeah man. Thanks for showing your struggles. I have a ton of these blades too... Thanks as always for your videos, sir.
Great video. Its important folks know it's as much trial and error that leads to success. Great attempt. Nice save with the ring.
Just a note man, when stick welding, always draw your electrode in the same direction as your pitch (angle). If there's slag, you drag. Don't push the electrode, otherwise slag gets in the weld and that's not good.
My cringe exactly. 😂
@@Arachnos27 i saw that as well
It is not important for this proces. It's a weld just to keep those blades together through the forge welding proces. At final, after the blades are forge welded, he removes the both ends of the bar, where the electrode welding is.
The issue becomes that if there’s any gap between the layers at all whatsoever the slag can move up between the layers and become trapped and that will create a weak spot in the blade. Any time you’re forging layers together you have to prevent any outside objects from getting in the cleaned layers for a strong forged product.
@@Bamapride1000 Good point. Didn't thougth about that. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
0:28 its morse code
"please send help, my wife ask me to shave my beard"
Basically the French secret recipe to a proper croissant. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Great video.
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I love the fact that you're always to wholesome. You're awesome!
The ring looks great! I like how the very simple pattern was warped in an interesting way simply by turning it on the lathe. You should definitely continue experimenting with forge welding and damascus. It’s a process I never tire from watching, plus some of the comments here are very good advice to improve results. Thank you for sharing with us!
WOW so great art project🤗
Even though you didn't get what you wanted, you still made an awesome looking ring! Great video as always! 🤘
Wow this was surprising, thank you videos on projects that not always come as planned!
Love the content!
Great to see you learning various techniques to accomplish a great end goal! Which is something some people are incapable of understanding, a la the nonstop whining by the same individuals in the comments…
Coming home from work on a Friday and finding out there’s a new vid of Black Beard. Perfect way to start the weekend
Great video. Not afraid to show the trials and errors of weekend warriors
ALWAYS fun to view your unique techniques and ideas. Rings like this one could generate more $ than you might guess. ALWAYS a buyer looking for that SPECIAL touch they can own.....without doing anymore than sending you a fair price for your effort and TIME!
KEEP EM COMING.
I'm only 7 months late on this, but canister weld it. Slip all of them into some kind of rectangular tubing. So it's good and tight. Put a little paper towel inside, at the sides of the stack. As you weld on the caps little flames will create some porosity in your weld. That's ok, because that's your vent so it doesn't explode. I like to dab borax on those pin holes, extra air barrier while hot air can still come out. Then it'll weld fine. But also be sure to sand each piece nice and clean, first
Make a blade from blades? Yes!
I'm glad you show some failures too. It tells us all wr are OK when stuff doesn't go as planned. I do love the rings however, would be an interesting necklace pendants on with your logo on it, say a giveaway or something
you're so talented it's mind boggling... aloha from hawaii!!
You still recycled what you have. Still really cool what you did. You always do nice work no matter what you make.
Yes, this is a video has a classic Black Beard production feel 👍
You did a good job setting the Welds. Next time draw out the billet a little more than cut it in half fold it over onto itself and re-forge weld it. You can fold it onto itself as much as you like in different directions for different patterns.
That was still a great project!!! 👍 Well done
Watched the video and imagined a kitchen knife ... 😍😍😍 ...
awesome video as always, thanks man
EXCELLENT, BBP!!! you are a Master Metalsmith, indeed.
Maybe use them in a cannister project?
very nice job
We all have to drink the lemonade sometimes 👍🏼
That was a pretty cool way to reuse those broken blades.
You get points for trying. Keep going
Appreciate your work.Keep it up,
The plot twist was amazing
I never saw it coming 🤯
Don't think I've ever seen Damascus style jewelry before you might have something there... : )
You don’t throw away anything 😂 amazing idea 🍻🍀👍🏻
Wow. Amazing. I like your channel 👍🍻👍
Wonderfully seasoned, carefully flipped to ensure even cooking and browned to perfection. Otherwise, you win some, you lose some. Your doing better than I am, I'm still trying to make a good set of tongs....
great work!
Thanks
Thanks for you honestly
I’ve got same problems with bandsaw blades I’m making right now some aren’t sticking together and some are. Thanks for video
Even if it didn't work out the way you wanted it to, you still tried it and I learned something new, great video!
That ring came out nice, looks like wood somehow...Great!
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You did way more than I could.not a Failure!
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Maybe try folding the blades after you heat them and join them.
Fold them 10-15 times...can't hurt to try. But great video!
Love the ring it looks awesome!!
Still made an interesting conversation piece of it and you learned some new things from it so I'd say an all around win, thanks for sharing!
It would be a good idea to make a canister damascus blade with a known steel for the edge and pieces of the saw blades for the spine (since not all the band might be hardenable steel)
What do you mean, od course band Has to be hardenable
Hey man, the process just BEAUTIFUL!!
Great project. Definition of learning process. One must try, learn, adjust and try again. Imho you gained knowledge and experience. When you try it next time adding in what was learned, a different result will be achieved.
So if i may suggest a couple of things to consider in your next trial.
Consider adding powdered metal to your flux.about 50/50. A 1080 1084 1095 or even cast iron powder. An additional option would be to add said powder during the stacking process. Just a dusting between the blades, then clamp it very tight. Weld the ends and perhaps a bed or two on the sides to prevent the expansion of the billet before and durin the 1st heats and welding heats.
Another good option to consider is thr banding material others have spoken of alternated between the blades you have. Then flux with the 50/50borax and power steel. The capalary action of the borax pulls the powder steel into the cracks with it .
IMHO any combination of the above should result in a higher success ratio, albeit some perhaps more than others. Special consideration to the cast iron powder being high carbon content and carbon migration at forgewelding temperature. It could in theory result in a billet with a carbon content close to .100 yet retain the some of the flexibility of the bandsaw blades. This in theory should result in a blade w good toughness yet enough carbon to create carbides necessary for superior edge retention.
Just some food for thought. Hammer on my friend, for the day is ripe for new and awesome adventure.
🙏 Blessed day and well wishes Sir
Crawford out ⚒️🧙♂️
You did a great job. While there are many potential problems that caused the forge welding to fail they can be prevented in the future.
1. Some people recommend grinding off the teeth. This can be due to it making inclusion in the weld but also due to some saw blades being “bi-metal” which is where the teeth are a high speed steel that is welded on in the factory.
2. Try alternating the types of steel in order to create more contrast in the pattern. By having just one main type of steel, it will experience similar etching and carbon loss in the pattern welding process.
3. You could have tried putting everything in a canister with steel powder and welded it that way.
4. You could try cutting what you have and welding some steel in between and on the outside of your saw blade billets.
Just some helpful ideas!
Soo satisfying with that first hammer hit out of the forge
8:47 Ah, the one ring to rule them all! 👍
Well, at least you have taken out something good from this tentative.
You have a lot of creativity: I am sure you will think a way to use those broken Bandsaw.
So super hit
Should reach out to Matthew Cremona, he's got some monster band saw blades to work with
Just a thought.... maybe using the Band saws in a canister damascus would make up for the incompatibility.
Best Regards From Brazil
I think it needed to be hotter to forge weld. Pale yellow almost white and smoke rising from the steel. And the borax should splash out in a shower of sparks when they weld. It looked really cool when the borax oozed out in an orange wave though.
cool rings! how it cost???
Good working
Good idea. Nice job
Great full ideas.
when Shurap makes those crazy patterns he has the welded pieces soaking in some kind of light oil, and hammering on top of wood in the beginning when the pieces are still loose. I don't know jack about forging, but I noticed I don't see those things with other YT blacksmiths.
Love the videos, keep up the good work.
kerosene/lamp oil
shurap also uses tons of steel granulate or powder. it's easier than welding hard to weld steels to themselves.
Nice job
That was cool, thank you!
The ring is a Good Idea ! Thanks !
Good idea 👍
As soon as I saw your thumbnail I knew this was a billet of broken handsaw blades. I've tried this on a few different occasions and only had success once. Every other time it turned into an absolute mess. I think that maybe some of the bimetallic blades have cobalt or some other adjunct added to them that prevents them from forge welding to themselves in the same manner that 5160 does. It would be interesting to try a cannister weld on somethough. Either way, solid video man. I love to see people trying new stuff!
Thank you
Good effort.
Wonder if anyone ever just ran a bunch of weld beads and make a Damascus of them?
I read the comments below and I realized I know nothing at all about what you trying to do, but thanks for trying anyway. Also thanks the explanation at the end. I seen several of your videos and have decided to subscribe. Thanks for sharing this video with us and please keep them coming in.
Love your vids👍🏿👍🏿 keep up the great work!!!
Cruz ✝️. Good scope specification good job 👍
As always good video & it came out awesome
Excellent work sir... very interesting.love it.i hope i can do like you.
Anhydrous borax won't fluff up like the store stuff will. A lot more convenient
There are just too many layers that oxidized during your first heat up when the hot parts warped out and let more and more space between the strips. I'm not sure if there is a way to do that. It is definitly very hard to do.
That is awesome!
It looked from the blade teeth that there were at least two different blades, it could be that there was a mixture of normal and bi metal blades, just a guess but maybe that was the problem 👍
Sempre un bel video, Grazie!!
Gollum: the ring is my lovely !!!
It's a beautiful ring, though.
The ring looks really cool though, and it seams you got some XP from this. So I'd call this a great success.
Looks like the Wood Grain Ring from Dark Souls.
Welding them together. That would make a nice back scratcher!
Impressive,never seen this way before.😎😎👍👍
Awesome! 🔥🔥🔥
Love your vids keep up the great work
Layer them with 1095 in between each saw blade. I’ve also had success using them in canister Damascus.
Try I single type of blade in a canister with powdered metal and see if you can preserve the image of the teeth in the blade some how. Just a suggestion from someone who's never forged anything.
You can also try doing cannister Damascus with the bandsaw blades. 1095 powder will help bring them all together and you can end with a pretty crazy pattern from it.
Look into a saw mill near you ... Great work
Like life, sometimes you don’t get the results you want. A cool project nonetheless.
A good job
great video!
It didn't work out as you expected but hey at least you tried and got a nice ring out of it. I watch a lot of Forge Welding video's over on Joey Van Der Steeg's channel. You are right about the different blades causing the gaps or cracks in the forge weld that you did but check him out if you haven't already. He doesn't do Damascus but you can probably get some good tips from him. Take care!
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