Love this! I ride in FL heavy traffic training, pace lines, group rides, etc. Most of my cycling buddies have varias, but I’ve always even afraid if I got one, I’d become too dependent on it. There are many situations where our bike lanes end and we must take the lane. Turning around and waving/ communicating with motorists behind a group is crucial. Also, when pulling off the front of a pace line it signals to the riders behind that you’re about to make a move! Subscribed, keep up the great content Mitch!
Garmin Varia radar just lets you know a car is behind you and I won’t ride without it. The eyeglass or helmet mounted mirror lets you know if they’ve moved over.
I grew up in Washington, DC, and I can ride in traffic and never use mirrors. I advise riders to use all their senses, sight, sound, etc. Never ever wear earbuds on the road. It is really easy to get fooled by the image in a mirror. One critical thing you should have mentioned was establishing eye contact with as many drivers as possible, especially those turning right on red. It is also frequently possible to make eye contact with drivers' mirrors. If you are going to ride in traffic, turning your head is mandatory, in addition to the ability to sprint and understand the flow of the traffic lights.
I've used earbuds for over a decade now. Never had a problem. I ride defensively, look back frequently, even when I'm not turning, communicate with drivers to show intentions, etc. I can still hear traffic coming up behind me.
Like it or not, the issue with earbuds is that you are giving a portion of your brain's processing to the music. If you are just tooling along, listening to Taylor Swift, and thinking about which post-ride IPA you will have, the mirror on your handlebar will do zero for you when that a-hat in the pickup truck turns you into road mush.
@@Shadowboost Tried earbuds once and was snuck upon by a white bmw as I was turning my head to look back. I could not believe how close the car got to me without me feeling a thing. Overconfidence is dangerous in this regard I think. I only use open-ear bone conduction ear piece on off-road only rides now. Just my 2c.😅
I think that most drivers will notice you turning your head and this is an indication of intention. Another good practice is to use hand signals!! I tried helmet mirrors in the past but I found this very distracting. Always remember, you're a small vehicle on the road: be patient, your life is on the line. Some people are not nice, this is just life. If you feel unsafe, get off the road and find a safe path.
I’m 70 and have back and neck issues. 10 years ago I could look back but now I can’t. I just bought a mirror and find it works reasonably well. I cycle quiet roads and avoid busy traffic.
This advice is very important with vehicles being quieter than in the past, and many drivers on cellphones. Those of us survivors who started riding before radar and decent mirrors will look back, and being over 70 with shoulder/neck injuries, I practice shoulder drop lookback before taking a bottle regardless of circumstance.
It only shows things if they are closing with you. If a car paces you for a while waiting for a spot to pass, it will think they are gone. The first time that happened to me, when I shoulder checked and there was a car RIGHT THERE I flinched so hard I almost hit the curb.
@@benbencom This is why the radar should always be complimented with a mirror. Have both and would never hand them back even for a £1m. Been cycling for over 40 years and drivers rarely understand why you are looking back (eye contact). I've had dangerous passes using both methods, and it makes very little difference in the new age of 'I need to drive quick it's my road'.
100% agree. Looking back is the ultimate safety feature for a bicyclist. Riding for 70 years and never had an accident from behind, all from the side or front. Important, almost all bicyclists are drivers, but only a few drivers are bicyclists, they have no clue, what a bicyclist does, needs, wants or reacts.
You mention something that not enough people talk about. I discovered this years ago, and I teach it to cyclists. I use a mirror, and I can see very well. It's 90% reliable, so I know I might look and not see anything and then find that I'm wrong. But it's still useful for me. I 100% agree that turning my head to give a signal is the most important thing. I will have a car passing me, and the driver won't know that I know he is there. I turn my head to let him know. I don't turn my head to see as I already know he's there. Not only that, I turn my head TWICE. This redundancy makes the signal clearer. I've been told by cyclists behind me that I'm extremely clear to everyone else on the road. I make a lot of signals with my head. It's a skill, and it takes practice. Do the practice, and build the skill! I rarely use hand signals because I believe my head signals are as clear or clearer.
There can always be an argument against any solution e.g. one could argue that the mirror blocks some of your forward vision. Bottom line (as you said)... there are various options, and people just need to find what works for them. If it's a mirror, great. If it's a safe turn of the head, great. If it's a radar, great. Whatever it is, if it's legal and it keeps you and other roads users / pedestrians safe, great.
I have used a helmet mirror for about 40 years. (you have yours set way too far forward for me) They are great. I still turn my head and look some, but I don't have to. Mine is flat. Scan and you'll see it all. Get in the habit of using it and you'll always depend on it
Yes! Very important to use a small flat mirror very close to your head. The field of view grows when it's a lot the closer to your eye and the eye stays focused for distance, a much better option than a big floppy mirror.
For me helmet mirror is best really close. Because it looks less nerdy? Yes, but also the field of vision is better. I can turn my head and scan the situation behind, while having the other eye watching ahead. I like the take-a-look mirror. Largeish, rectangular, sits just under my helmet visor. Hand signals and making eye contact are important too.
Always looking back, when you’re riding in an urban environment, you just have to be super aware of everything and always pay attention. And I completely agree that when you look back it does let the driver know you’re aware of them and they will feel more comfortable passing you, instead of cautiously following behind because they’re not sure if you know they’re there.
Rear-view mirror for bicycling is as essential as a rear-view mirror for driving. Once you start using it, you realize how handicapped you were without it. The best rear-view mirrors are helmet-mounted, close to your eyes, They give you the widest view and don't require a slight head-turn to look. All you do is slight glance to your left. If you are a cyclist and ride on the road, get a rear-view mirror!
Great point near the end: Get whatever helps you stay alive. And I would add something to what you said: decent cyclists usually make much better drivers. They’re used to seeing everything around them that’s a threat, while motorists are in a cocoon.
My daily commuter has a straight bar with a pretty big mirror on the left side. It works great but I still never go from right to left without a good shoulder check. Comes from years on a motorcycle where the stakes are much bigger. Love the advice you give to use everything that is available to you.
Excellent video. I have 2 handlebar convex mirrors and they make SUCH a difference. Very useful for quick glance do maintain situational awareness. Cant ride without them. However I still look back before crossing. The key here is to treat the mirrors as **just ONE of the links in a safety chain**. So use the mirrors to get a quick pic of whats behind, if it shows no cars then turn heard to check and then cross. Never cross after using ONLY mirror! And most of all as the video said if in any doubt or you're not confident of head turn - STOP. Just stop. Look. Cross. Happy biking global biking friends!
I bike with a mirror, but I also turn my head as the verification check. The mirror lets me know what is around me. It gives me an ongoing watch of traffic behind me. I don’t rely on the mirror as my only look before moving. I must turn my head before moving. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for adding the part about communication! Turning the head tells drivers that we know they are they and will not do anything unpredictable but expect the same respect! Keep your head on a swivel or stick to stationary bike
I ride a MTB, often in traffic and always with pedestrians or other bikes etc in front/behind. I use two mirrors on my bars, both underneath - basically like a motorcycle. They are great and I could never confidently ride without them in traffic - imagine taking your mirrors off of your car! That said, your tip the last time for looking back without swerving has been really great - I use it when my mirrors are fogged up or when I'm in situation which requires quick confidence and looking back is faster/safer than trying to focus on the mirror. I think people forget that even with cameras and mirrors on our vehicles, we still physically look over our shoulders.
I got a little goggles-mount mirror a few years back, and I don't know why I ever rode without it. However, if I need to cross traffic lanes, I still look over my shoulder. It's the same as checking your blind spot before a lane change when driving. When your life is on the line, check twice.
I've used a zefal z-eye bike helmet mirror for 15 years. Similar to the black one on your hat. Not perfect - especially with adverse lighting - low sun from behind etc. The convex mirror is much better. You can scan behind by turning your head side to side and see huge area. I always give a quick glance back when I think it is clear according to mirror just to make sure. The head mirror follows your head movement and little / no vibration compared to handle bar mirror.
I am responding without reading any responses. I am just reacting to those “ time to get a mirror” people. I like mirrors they help but looking back will always be a great skill to have and do. What if you break a mirror in the first 8 to 12 miles into your 26 mile ride? You gonna walk back or walk to your end. Either way being able to have that looking back skill is a must in my opinion.
I am excited to start using your techniques today to correct weaving out of my lane when I turn my head. Using mirrors only assist and should never replace turning to see who is hanging in the blind spot no matter driving or cycling. Never trust motorists to turn their heads to look for you. When merging I also use hand signals right or left with a friendly wave to cooperative motorists. Like Mr. Cyclingskills says Eye contact. Very good content.
I have been using a handlebar mirror for a couple of years. It's a flat mirror as the convex are crap. But about a year ago I added the radar and now use both. The really do compliment each other, particularly as I live in a rural area where the roads are 80km/h and 100km/h zones.
No one suggested a mirror should replace turning the head 😅. Turn your head, use a mirror on the handlebar and and if you like the Radar and you are set 😁. Just keep in mind that the radar can fail too if you are unlucky, hehe. Cheers from Switzerland's Mountain region with way less cars but some steep Hills and Motorcycles :P
I've used mirrors on my drop bars for 50 years and I've never looked back 🤪 If I ride a bike without a mirror, I don't feel as safe. You wouldn't drive a car or ride a motorcycle without mirrors. I feel the same with bicycle mirrors. I heard of a cyclist who crashed into a stationary truck and died after he turned his head to look behind 😢
In the last 50 years I have bicycled 40,000 miles and driven a half million miles in cities, towns and rural areas in many states. It is important to be able to turn your head to look back, but I do not like to bike without a mirror. I have tried several mirrors but a $25. Take A Look bike mirror clipped on my glasses works best for me. I ride on a lot of city streets and rural roads. I use a Garmin Varia RTL 510 radar taillight with my Garmin bike computer. It is worth having, but it does not replace my mirror. The 510 will tell me if one or more vehicles are approaching behind me, but it does not tell me which lane they are in or what type of vehicle. I need to tilt my head a bit to see what is behind me in my mirror, but I can see what vehicles are in each lane and if a vehicle is signaling a turn. The 510 alerts me to the speed and distance of vehicles - if I I have not looked in my mirror for a while, if a vehicle is just around a curve or just over a hill behind me. The 510 is also helpful along with my mirror when I want to change lanes or when the sun is low enough to be shining directly in my mirror. I never assume any driver or pedestrian sees me and I never assume which way they are going. If I have the right of way I don’t assume a driver will comply. I pump my arm in the direction I am turning to increase the visibility of my hand signals. A helmet, bright clothing and a flashing day and night headlight and taillight (like the 510) are great safety essentials. I have used Cycliq front and rear cameras the last few years which ma show who is at fault in a crash.
I use varia radar and it's very helpful. But checking back before changing position is a must, as some drivers are very polite and patiently crawl behind waiting for a good moment to overtake, in this situation radar is not seeing anything as there is no speed difference between the rider and the car behind.
I"m a road cyclist like you, and I watched your other video a couple of months ago and have been practicing looking back, takes some getting used to. I have a flat mirror that attaches to my glasses/sunglasses that I have been using for several years now and I lie them, but I"m like you, I don't rely on them when changing lanes or moving to the left, I pull over and stop. You have given me GREAT advice. Thanks. I will check out the radar set-up, cause I don't trust drivers always seeing me.
I have a really hard time turning my head enough to get a good picture of what's behind me. I use a mirror instead but still, turn my head some to let the driver know I see them. I love my mirror and won't ride in traffic without it.
might also consider using your left arm to signal your intention to move to the left. I extend my arm fully and kinda wave it to let everyone know I'm merging to the left.
The mirror should be located in the upper left of your vision, such that it doesn't block your view of what is ahead. Not all helmet mirrors provide the adjustment for this, though.
@@SkyhawkSteve I thought I had seen the mirrors somewhat in that position. But I was thinking about when you are riding In an aggressive position with your head forward and downward with your eyes upward....could that one little mirror be In just the right spot to block your vision at just the perfect moment to cause a bad accident? It only takes a fraction of a second for it to happen....
I use a wrist mirror for years now, for me it's the best choice, works very well, doesn't make me dizzy and it's reaaly easy to just close. I neve used a radar, but I would if it wasn't so expensive in my country. Still, I always look back to be certain. Thanks for your videos, they're awesome and don't have the "bike snob" approach, after all 'go ride your bike should be the first message ever' kkkkkkk
I'm 66 and I have a lot of experience with bad car drivers. All those opinions are worth listening to. Personally I always look back when I hear a car coming and the simple fact of looking back will get the car going far from you and /or you will be abble to apreciate the good or bad car driver instantly. A good feeling about the noise of the incoming car ( if you don't look back ) can give you informations about the bad car driver but only at 50% acurate. A bad car driver passing you intentionnaly is aware of what "he" is doing because if you just raise your hand to mention the bad behaviour you will see "him" giving you the bad finger as "he" looks to "his" mirror. When looking back to go left I will not just look but turn my head as far as I can because a simple look back will not allow you having a good sight, even if with the age coming it's more difficult. Your videos are great.
I use a mirror all the time. HOWEVER, bike mirrors, just like cars have BLIND SPOTS. I still need to look over my shoulder because I’m an older cyclist. I have avoided many dangerous situations because I LOOKED.
I’m with you, I turn around to check on traffic, but I use hand signals to let the drivers know that I’m intending to move to my right or left. And yes I too have a mirror at the end of the drop downs.
I use to ride with a bar-end mirror but found I was constantly checking my mirror instead of enjoying the ride or watching in front of me. Tried helmet mirrors but found they always sat right outside my vision (I wear prescription glasses). When I did find one that sit in the right spot, like you it took some time for my eyes to refocus on the distance. But the Varia - total game changer. It's not perfect, but it sure helps you focus on everything in front and to the sides UNTIL it's time to look back. I can tell from the sound how close a car is and how close it will pass but that notification from 150m or more that a car is coming helps me ride more aware. Your video on shoulder checks is spot on, too. The one thing rarely mentioned in Varia reviews is something drivers have commented on - when the Varia detects cars, it changes the light pattern. Drivers have told me this catches their eye and has made me more visible.
I use a mirror and a radar . Amazon has the best small mirror for glasses love it . Question is try taking off your car rear view mirror and you driving experiences and safe go down hill . Same on a bike . The glasses mounted mirror is the best .
For me personally I like the mirror, while it takes a while to get use to it. I wouldn't ride without one. Also I have a blinkie light on my helmet & behind my rear set post, which makes a huge difference on riding on the road. Of course looking back to make sure before making a turn is a must. That's usually the only time I turn my head, but then I ride on very, very low traffic country roads , which makes riding enjoyable after riding in & around the city for many years.
I have a handle bar mirror, I shudder to ride without it. I check the mirror to see if a car is coming and then I use your drop shoulder method to also visually check. Cars are much closer than the mirror indicates. Thanks for teaching that method.
That’s some bravery trying it out in NYC lol. Road riding been so dangerous with distracted drivers. I don’t think I could trust anything but my eyes. We’ve traded in our roads for gravel now a days. Keep up the fun content!
I've used a mirror for years, but I found your advice on how to look over your shoulder very helpful. Even with a mirror there are times when I feel the need to look over should.
Good point about the body language of a head check. It is a signal to other road users. Motorcycle training says to never just use your mirrors. Always do a head check. I do that on the bicycle as well.
I have a Suunto radar which I purchased about 9 months ago. It works very well as you mention for the Garmin radar. I also ride with a Shokz Openrun headset paired by bluetooth to the phone. This allows the radar warning tone to be audible even in a high noise environment. I liked the tips you gave in the previous video for turning your head because I still need to check on my riding partners whereabouts before blowing a buger.
I recently converted from a handlebar mirror to a flat helmet mirror. I like it much better. A slight twist of the neck and you can see pretty much everything going on behind you. I use it mostly for general awareness. I like to know what is coming up behind me and if a car is about to buzz me a little too closely. Cars are getting quieter and I have slight hearing loss, so I really like the extra security I get from it. Now, for getting across a lane or two to make a left turn....I will turn my head completely to look behind me. I want to be 100% sure before I jut out into a lane of traffic.
I liked the first video and tried to put those tips into practice. It was helpful, thanks. I also have the radar - it's really useful - great as a first step - but I still ALWAYS turn my head
Anticipate and be ready to STOP if a car's nose is crawling into the bike lane BEFORE the driver sees you from in front of the parked cars and there is full speed traffic next to the bike lane. Also a prioriy is to be VISIBLE with colors, lights, and bells. MAKE NOISE as you approach that blind car nose.
I agree with your first video - people need to learn how to turn their head while still riding forward. It's a basic cycling skill - even with a car we are taught to check our blind spots by turning our heads - all these cameras and radars in modern cars IMO give people a sense of false confidence and I see driving skills lacking today (I'm 54). People tailgate (no more 3 second rule), speed and generally are not aware. I'm all for technology in our lives, but the beauty of a bicycle is it's analog, mechanical and requires no batteries which makes it an excellent way to commute. Good for you for having an open mind and testing all this out - but I'm with you brother - TURN YOUR HEAD! Great content - thanks!
I don't have a mirror at the moment, but I do miss it. The main purpose of a mirror for me is that if you can see a car coming you don't have to bother to turn to look - however, I never use/used it as absolute confirmation that the road is clear. So, my process was typically - check mirror - if I can see a car it's not clear, so no need to turn to check - once car passes, check mirror again - if it looks clear in the mirror, turn to look to confirm if it really is clear.
I ride with Cycliq FLY6 and FLY12 camera/lights (which I love) and I also use a small mirror attached to my glasses. It gives me peace of mind when I’m riding on the road-which is invaluable. The ability to glance up and take note of the conditions behind allows me to position myself and be ready before it happens. Of course I always turn my head and give hand directions before making any moves. Really, it comes down to what works for you. If you’re comfortable without a mirror and keeping your head on a swivel, cool. But you’re right, it takes time to get used to a mirror and learn how to get it positioned properly.
You are so right about turning your head. I can't believe its not second nature like pedaling is to all cyclists. I don't cycle in the city as you do, I road ride in a pac out in the country. Not to long ago I started using a mirror on the bar end. It was a real eye opener when I rode at the back of our pac. I was never aware of how many cars slow down to our groups speed for a very long time, even though there is another open lane to pass. For this reason alone I decided to leave it on the bike. It took some getting used to. I had learn how to quickly look at it and re focus on my position in the pac. Now I have two habits, check the mirror for on coming traffic, and turn my head when making lane changes.
I use a helmet mirror, but nothing beats taking a look. The electric cars a too quiet and any car can come up behind you without you seeing it in the mirror as you navigate road hazards. Heck, even driving without looking over your shoulder as you change lanes can be a disaster. Why take the chance on a bike?
I have varia rtl515 and i love it. It removes a lot of stress during cycling, only bad thing with it - you don't know who's behind you, another cyclist, angry dog or truck :) Anw, if i need move to the left i stop, look around, let other cars pass and do that when it's safe.
My bike has an upright posture and swept back handlebars so big mirrors on the handlebars are perfect. Being a motorcycle rider the experience was familiar to me. It's not a substitute for looking behind you when you cross lanes. It does help you to be aware of what is going on behind you. I love them!
Riding after 30+ years here, in the jungle were no one respects any single road law, regulation or nothing. I always first put my arm up, signalling I'm turning, then look back if I can turn, and then turn. No mirrors. The radar only for open roads, where cars do over 60mph. Great video.
I was using helmet mirrors 45 years ago, mostly home made ones. There were times when I was road racing and the other riders behind me were amazed that I could cross over to the center to make a turn without looking back, it was also great to keep an eye on riders about to jump past me.
I love your test! Heavn't heard about radar yet, but what I like in simple look back, that it gives information to drivers, that you are looking and thinking about changing direction. It also gives the quickest overview on whole situation. Mirrors can be shaky on bumpy roads, but outside city they provide information about quick comming car (because you exactly know where to expect them). Personally I dream about backward camera on my handlebar.
Agree entirely with what you say. One thing I would have pointed out though is that the Garmin Varia only flags approaching traffic, so if something sits behind you for a while it will disappear from the display... I have a Varia and it's great at giving a heads up for approaching traffic. However, it's always best to double check by turning around 👍
I’ve been practicing the tips you give in previous video and I’m getting better at it. Then again I ride in rural areas so lucky for me very little traffic. I’m gonna check out the radar. Thanks for the tips.
Well, you've got a point of view. Personally I've been using handlebar mirrors for many many years and they give me a good awareness of what's going on around me. Mirrycle in my case. A bell is another essential.
Great advice. I’m with you. I don’t like mirrors attached to my helmet for several reasons. First like you mentioned they can be a distraction. Second if you crash do I want something that might end up causing injury to my eye or head. And third what about if the sun is shining behind me? That reflected sunlight could be at best annoying. I’m a subscriber. I’ve taught many riders how to look back without swerving. One easy way is to point with your hand behind you with the side you want to look before turning your head. That trailing arm will help keep you straight. Thanks for your content. 👍🚴♂️
The first skill I recommend to newbie cyclists is the ability to look back without swerving. I have a radar and really like it, but I consider it extra information and will not move into a traffic lane without actually looking back.
I turn and look when I can but I like a mirror for situational awareness. I used to use a handlebar mounted mirror but I found that when riding on really rough surfaces it bounces so much that it is useless. I now use a Bike Peddler Take a L👀K mirror that mounts on my eyeglasses and I love it. I may have to look into a radar someday, though.
I use a rubber band to assist holding my helmet mounted mirror. It goes from the mirror arm thru a helmet cooling hole and back to the mirror arm. It keeps the mirror in place and greatly reduces vibrations giving me a clear picture of the road behind me before I make a left turn. I also stay keenly alert for the sounds of an oncoming vehicle. These have kept me safe for many years.
My experience...I started seriously road riding about 18 years ago in Chicago and mostly south suburbs. I commuted daily to work. 10 miles one way on busy streets. Some with little or no bike lane. No mirrors starting out. I looked back for traffic. After a short time I noticed 2 things. Neck and shoulder pain. And I was frequently honked at, yelled at, and given the finger. I then went to the small rectangle mirror attached to my glasses. MUCH MUCH smaller than that clunky thing in your video. Wow! What a change. With the mirror adjusted right. All I needed was a slight head movement and I saw everything coming behind me. The mirror I use is 3/4" wide and a 1.5 " long. I am never without it when I ride. No neck and shoulder pain and only get honked at by the typical driver who hates bikes...for no other reason. I now ride in much less traffic in Michigan. When with other riders who don't have mirrors I am the one ALWAYS saying "car back!". My only problem is on one way streets. Always trying to stay on the right side so I can see traffic in my mirror. Over the years there are little things that have helped me in big ways road riding. That little mirror on my glasses ranks near #1!
Most of my rides are solo and on roads with light traffic but it’s almost all single lane, mostly 80-100kph zones. I have the Garmin and it is very good for situational awareness. It gives good warning of approaching vehicles (even other bikes) allows you to focus on a good line and the moving graphics help you understand the closing speed and number of vehicles. It reduces the need to head check with multiple vehicles passing because you can see them on the display and count them off before having a peak back.
I use a mirror (attached to glasses) but I don't think it substitutes for turning my head if I'm going to move left or turn. It's an easy way to get a general sense of what's happening behind me. And I agree with the "use all your senses" approach - I never use earbuds or anything that affects my hearing when riding. Alertness to sound and visual cues in the mirror are the main ways I stay aware of approaching cars. I'd consider a radar at a lower price point, but even then I'd still use a mirror.
Had a mirror but radar works better. My number one safety tip is to find less traveled roads even if it takes longer. Don’t assume you have a right to be on the road take the sidewalk if necessary to navigate around a congested area.
Well, I agree to a point, we have a right to be on the road, as a matter-of-fact we are supposed to be on the road according to the law, but like you said, try to ride on the sidewalk sometimes if it makes more sense for safety purposes. Just did it myself the other day.
When I'm driving a car and I go to change lanes... First I check the mirror, then I turn my head to look. I do both on the bike too. Alas, neither my bike nor car use radar.
Great video. And, to put your point succinctly, it is well documented that the overwhelming majority of communication is nonverbal much in the way of body language. Guess what looking and acknowledging another road user is? You guessed it: nonverbal communication. That being said, I made eye contact w/ a driver at a cross street stop sign. We made contact, I was going ~18-20mph commuting to work in travel lane, and she still pulled out across me to make a left turn onto the main road. So now, I just assume I’m invisible.
I've been cycling my entire adult life (longer than I care to admit but 'Woodstock' had just entered the vocabulary). For me it has to be a handlebar mirror. In fact if I had to choose between a helmet or a handlebar mirror when I'm riding (if for some reason I was forced to choose just one or the other), I'd take the mirror. I prefer a good handlebar mirror because I use it not just for making left turns but I like to keep an eye on what's going on behind me regularly. The mirror gives me intel on what's behind while I can keep looking forward for pot holes, debris, parked cars with opening doors, etc. So as for me, it's a mirror, a good one on the handlebar that I can check at a glance and that won't be constantly in my face.
Forget some aero loss, use a larger convex mirror mounted sufficiently further on/from the hoods if on dropbars. Mirror on helmet means you need to hold your head straight to find the right behind view. It's trying to use a mirror like a head lamp.
Tested a few mirrors. For road cycling, the Cateye BM 24 is the best IMO. It’s discrete and stable on the handlebar end, and the magnification is just nice to see cars at the rear far enough.
I use a mirror to plan my manoeuvre so I’m not constantly turning to check if clear, but I’ll always turn my head before I commit. And use clear body language for drivers. My mirror also helps me know if someone is coming up behind my on country roads, so if there is someone coming from the front I can squeeze over a bit. I wouldn’t want to be looking back all that often on a long ride.
Yes, turn your head to look. Practice doing it. That's the safest way to go, especially in combination with a good handlebar mirror (when necessary, stop and pullover to right and then cross when safe, as you pointed out). Took me a while of trying different mirrors before I finally found an excellent pair--left and right side. Would never trust anything but turning my head to look, especially in heavy, big city, multilane heavy traffic. Fact is I wouldn’t ride in such traffic conditions ordinarily. But it’s good to know how to ride in heavy traffic safely. I use Meachow handlebar mirrors on my hybrid bike.
I've been cycling since I was 6, became a "serious cyclist" at 12 when I complete my first century, and spent some time as an amateur racer, spending a season racing in Europe. I have never used a mirror, I have a thing called a "neck" which allows me to turn my head in several different directions. I don't have to contort my body into odd positions to put my eye on what is coming up behind me, and I have never seen a mirror in the pro or amateur racing peloton. I can easily see what is behind my by looking over or under my arm. Cars come with mirrors, but drivers are still taught to look over their shoulders when turning or changing lanes because mirrors may not show everything coming up behind or next to you. The other important thing I have is a pair ears, which I don't stuff with ear buds or headphones. With my ears, I can hear a vehicle coming up behind behind me, I can hear if it is a car or truck, I can hear how fast it is going, and I can even hear if it is driving near the shoulder as I can hear the tires running over shoulder debris. I've played tag with cars on city streets and highways on a bike in some of the world's busiest metro areas (I live in Tokyo), and have managed to ride pretty long without being run over.
Who were these people commenting on your previous video?? I thought your I thought your video talking about safe ways to check over your shoulder without possibly putting yourself or motorists in danger was the spot on content and people instead comment that you should get a mirror or a bike radar?? What? I think simple checking your over your shoulder is a much more effective way to ensure your safety. those other things are good, but you still have to be able to make sure that everyone is safe otherwise!
I also ride a motorcycle. Part of the test in the UK is correct use of shoulder check. It's also referred to as a "life saver" Anybody who alters course changes lanes on roads without doing a "life saver" and relies solely on mirrors or gadgets is on borrowed time.
I have given up riding my racing bike in city traffic -I think my neck must be stiff !! I must try a mirror on my racer even on quiet country roads - city it's now my old mountain bike ( saved from a trash skip) - I stop to look around to be honest when I'm riding in the city ! Great video a very important topic ! - Thanks for video !
Ai have limited peripheral vision so use radar for early warning, bar end mirror for quick glances but nothing will ever replace turn and look before manover. I did try the helmet mirror but as I need bi-focal glasses they are out of my focal range.
Ive found that when I *only* head check, drivers can assume I'm about to change lanes in front of them, and sometimes slow down, creating a situation I don't want to be in (I'd rather wait until they pass). Using a mirror for those quick reference checks first, then only head checking when I want to turn (kind of like driving a car), makes everything smoother and avoids those awkward situations. Also, a mirror is extremely useful on highways and fast country roads, IMO, especially with a headwind which compromises the ability to hear vehicles coming from behind; yes you can head check, but it gets tedious to do it all the time just in case a truck is sneaking up.
Love this! I ride in FL heavy traffic training, pace lines, group rides, etc. Most of my cycling buddies have varias, but I’ve always even afraid if I got one, I’d become too dependent on it. There are many situations where our bike lanes end and we must take the lane. Turning around and waving/ communicating with motorists behind a group is crucial. Also, when pulling off the front of a pace line it signals to the riders behind that you’re about to make a move! Subscribed, keep up the great content Mitch!
Thank you for subscribing. Lowered expectations for future content please 😬 haha - I’ll try my best.
@@cyclingskillsthank you for mentioning us with neck injuries ❤ I've been practicing dropping my shoulder to turn and look.
Garmin Varia radar just lets you know a car is behind you and I won’t ride without it. The eyeglass or helmet mounted mirror lets you know if they’ve moved over.
I grew up in Washington, DC, and I can ride in traffic and never use mirrors. I advise riders to use all their senses, sight, sound, etc. Never ever wear earbuds on the road. It is really easy to get fooled by the image in a mirror. One critical thing you should have mentioned was establishing eye contact with as many drivers as possible, especially those turning right on red. It is also frequently possible to make eye contact with drivers' mirrors. If you are going to ride in traffic, turning your head is mandatory, in addition to the ability to sprint and understand the flow of the traffic lights.
I've used earbuds for over a decade now. Never had a problem. I ride defensively, look back frequently, even when I'm not turning, communicate with drivers to show intentions, etc. I can still hear traffic coming up behind me.
As long as you only have one ear bud in, I’ve found it to be fine, a perfect mix of being able to hear the road and the music
@@tyisnotme582 I've had both in, but they're not fully sealed. I can still hear car tire and wind noise
Like it or not, the issue with earbuds is that you are giving a portion of your brain's processing to the music. If you are just tooling along, listening to Taylor Swift, and thinking about which post-ride IPA you will have, the mirror on your handlebar will do zero for you when that a-hat in the pickup truck turns you into road mush.
@@Shadowboost Tried earbuds once and was snuck upon by a white bmw as I was turning my head to look back. I could not believe how close the car got to me without me feeling a thing. Overconfidence is dangerous in this regard I think. I only use open-ear bone conduction ear piece on off-road only rides now. Just my 2c.😅
I think that most drivers will notice you turning your head and this is an indication of intention. Another good practice is to use hand signals!! I tried helmet mirrors in the past but I found this very distracting. Always remember, you're a small vehicle on the road: be patient, your life is on the line. Some people are not nice, this is just life. If you feel unsafe, get off the road and find a safe path.
I’m 70 and have back and neck issues. 10 years ago I could look back but now I can’t. I just bought a mirror and find it works reasonably well. I cycle quiet roads and avoid busy traffic.
This advice is very important with vehicles being quieter than in the past, and many drivers on cellphones. Those of us survivors who started riding before radar and decent mirrors will look back, and being over 70 with shoulder/neck injuries, I practice shoulder drop lookback before taking a bottle regardless of circumstance.
Exactly. Make eye contact. If they don't make the contact assume they haven't seen you. Saved my life more than once.
Even with a radar, I STILL look back. It's 95% accurate NOT 100%!
This. Love the radar but look all the time
It only shows things if they are closing with you. If a car paces you for a while waiting for a spot to pass, it will think they are gone. The first time that happened to me, when I shoulder checked and there was a car RIGHT THERE I flinched so hard I almost hit the curb.
This is why I look!@@benbencom
@@benbencom This is why the radar should always be complimented with a mirror. Have both and would never hand them back even for a £1m. Been cycling for over 40 years and drivers rarely understand why you are looking back (eye contact). I've had dangerous passes using both methods, and it makes very little difference in the new age of 'I need to drive quick it's my road'.
@@benbencom if they are going slow enough they can also "sneak" up on you without giving you any warning at all, specially on narrow curvy roads.
100% agree. Looking back is the ultimate safety feature for a bicyclist. Riding for 70 years and never had an accident from behind, all from the side or front. Important, almost all bicyclists are drivers, but only a few drivers are bicyclists, they have no clue, what a bicyclist does, needs, wants or reacts.
You mention something that not enough people talk about. I discovered this years ago, and I teach it to cyclists. I use a mirror, and I can see very well. It's 90% reliable, so I know I might look and not see anything and then find that I'm wrong. But it's still useful for me. I 100% agree that turning my head to give a signal is the most important thing. I will have a car passing me, and the driver won't know that I know he is there. I turn my head to let him know. I don't turn my head to see as I already know he's there. Not only that, I turn my head TWICE. This redundancy makes the signal clearer. I've been told by cyclists behind me that I'm extremely clear to everyone else on the road. I make a lot of signals with my head. It's a skill, and it takes practice. Do the practice, and build the skill! I rarely use hand signals because I believe my head signals are as clear or clearer.
This comment is spot on. Use the mirror to see and the head turn to signal intent.
There can always be an argument against any solution e.g. one could argue that the mirror blocks some of your forward vision.
Bottom line (as you said)... there are various options, and people just need to find what works for them.
If it's a mirror, great. If it's a safe turn of the head, great. If it's a radar, great. Whatever it is, if it's legal and it keeps you and other roads users / pedestrians safe, great.
I have used a helmet mirror for about 40 years. (you have yours set way too far forward for me) They are great. I still turn my head and look some, but I don't have to. Mine is flat. Scan and you'll see it all. Get in the habit of using it and you'll always depend on it
Yes! Very important to use a small flat mirror very close to your head. The field of view grows when it's a lot the closer to your eye and the eye stays focused for distance, a much better option than a big floppy mirror.
For me helmet mirror is best really close. Because it looks less nerdy? Yes, but also the field of vision is better. I can turn my head and scan the situation behind, while having the other eye watching ahead. I like the take-a-look mirror. Largeish, rectangular, sits just under my helmet visor. Hand signals and making eye contact are important too.
Always looking back, when you’re riding in an urban environment, you just have to be super aware of everything and always pay attention. And I completely agree that when you look back it does let the driver know you’re aware of them and they will feel more comfortable passing you, instead of cautiously following behind because they’re not sure if you know they’re there.
Rear-view mirror for bicycling is as essential as a rear-view mirror for driving. Once you start using it, you realize how handicapped you were without it.
The best rear-view mirrors are helmet-mounted, close to your eyes, They give you the widest view and don't require a slight head-turn to look. All you do is slight glance to your left.
If you are a cyclist and ride on the road, get a rear-view mirror!
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Great point near the end: Get whatever helps you stay alive.
And I would add something to what you said: decent cyclists usually make much better drivers. They’re used to seeing everything around them that’s a threat, while motorists are in a cocoon.
Well said 👍
My daily commuter has a straight bar with a pretty big mirror on the left side. It works great but I still never go from right to left without a good shoulder check. Comes from years on a motorcycle where the stakes are much bigger. Love the advice you give to use everything that is available to you.
Excellent video. I have 2 handlebar convex mirrors and they make SUCH a difference. Very useful for quick glance do maintain situational awareness. Cant ride without them. However I still look back before crossing. The key here is to treat the mirrors as **just ONE of the links in a safety chain**. So use the mirrors to get a quick pic of whats behind, if it shows no cars then turn heard to check and then cross. Never cross after using ONLY mirror! And most of all as the video said if in any doubt or you're not confident of head turn - STOP. Just stop. Look. Cross. Happy biking global biking friends!
Thank you for the comment ❤️
I bike with a mirror, but I also turn my head as the verification check. The mirror lets me know what is around me. It gives me an ongoing watch of traffic behind me. I don’t rely on the mirror as my only look before moving. I must turn my head before moving. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for adding the part about communication! Turning the head tells drivers that we know they are they and will not do anything unpredictable but expect the same respect! Keep your head on a swivel or stick to stationary bike
I ride a MTB, often in traffic and always with pedestrians or other bikes etc in front/behind. I use two mirrors on my bars, both underneath - basically like a motorcycle. They are great and I could never confidently ride without them in traffic - imagine taking your mirrors off of your car! That said, your tip the last time for looking back without swerving has been really great - I use it when my mirrors are fogged up or when I'm in situation which requires quick confidence and looking back is faster/safer than trying to focus on the mirror. I think people forget that even with cameras and mirrors on our vehicles, we still physically look over our shoulders.
I got a little goggles-mount mirror a few years back, and I don't know why I ever rode without it. However, if I need to cross traffic lanes, I still look over my shoulder. It's the same as checking your blind spot before a lane change when driving. When your life is on the line, check twice.
I've used a zefal z-eye bike helmet mirror for 15 years. Similar to the black one on your hat. Not perfect - especially with adverse lighting - low sun from behind etc. The convex mirror is much better. You can scan behind by turning your head side to side and see huge area. I always give a quick glance back when I think it is clear according to mirror just to make sure. The head mirror follows your head movement and little / no vibration compared to handle bar mirror.
I am responding without reading any responses. I am just reacting to those “ time to get a mirror” people. I like mirrors they help but looking back will always be a great skill to have and do. What if you break a mirror in the first 8 to 12 miles into your 26 mile ride? You gonna walk back or walk to your end. Either way being able to have that looking back skill is a must in my opinion.
I am excited to start using your techniques today to correct weaving out of my lane when I turn my head. Using mirrors only assist and should never replace turning to see who is hanging in the blind spot no matter driving or cycling. Never trust motorists to turn their heads to look for you. When merging I also use hand signals right or left with a friendly wave to cooperative motorists. Like Mr. Cyclingskills says Eye contact. Very good content.
Thank you, stay safe and enjoy the ride ✅
I have been using a handlebar mirror for a couple of years. It's a flat mirror as the convex are crap. But about a year ago I added the radar and now use both. The really do compliment each other, particularly as I live in a rural area where the roads are 80km/h and 100km/h zones.
No one suggested a mirror should replace turning the head 😅.
Turn your head, use a mirror on the handlebar and and if you like the Radar and you are set 😁. Just keep in mind that the radar can fail too if you are unlucky, hehe.
Cheers from Switzerland's Mountain region with way less cars but some steep Hills and Motorcycles :P
I've used mirrors on my drop bars for 50 years and I've never looked back 🤪
If I ride a bike without a mirror, I don't feel as safe.
You wouldn't drive a car or ride a motorcycle without mirrors. I feel the same with bicycle mirrors.
I heard of a cyclist who crashed into a stationary truck and died after he turned his head to look behind 😢
In the last 50 years I have bicycled 40,000 miles and driven a half million miles in cities, towns and rural areas in many states.
It is important to be able to turn your head to look back, but I do not like to bike without a mirror. I have tried several mirrors but a $25. Take A Look bike mirror clipped on my glasses works best for me.
I ride on a lot of city streets and rural roads. I use a Garmin Varia RTL 510 radar taillight with my Garmin bike computer. It is worth having, but it does not replace my mirror. The 510 will tell me if one or more vehicles are approaching behind me, but it does not tell me which lane they are in or what type of vehicle.
I need to tilt my head a bit to see what is behind me in my mirror, but I can see what vehicles are in each lane and if a vehicle is signaling a turn. The 510 alerts me to the speed and distance of vehicles - if I I have not looked in my mirror for a while, if a vehicle is just around a curve or just over a hill behind me. The 510 is also helpful along with my mirror when I want to change lanes or when the sun is low enough to be shining directly in my mirror.
I never assume any driver or pedestrian sees me and I never assume which way they are going. If I have the right of way I don’t assume a driver will comply.
I pump my arm in the direction I am turning to increase the visibility of my hand signals. A helmet, bright clothing and a flashing day and night headlight and taillight (like the 510) are great safety essentials. I have used Cycliq front and rear cameras the last few years which ma show who is at fault in a crash.
I use varia radar and it's very helpful. But checking back before changing position is a must, as some drivers are very polite and patiently crawl behind waiting for a good moment to overtake, in this situation radar is not seeing anything as there is no speed difference between the rider and the car behind.
I"m a road cyclist like you, and I watched your other video a couple of months ago and have been practicing looking back, takes some getting used to. I have a flat mirror that attaches to my glasses/sunglasses that I have been using for several years now and I lie them, but I"m like you, I don't rely on them when changing lanes or moving to the left, I pull over and stop. You have given me GREAT advice. Thanks. I will check out the radar set-up, cause I don't trust drivers always seeing me.
Great to hear!
The two most important words of advice regarding cycling safety - "eye contact" 👍
I have a really hard time turning my head enough to get a good picture of what's behind me. I use a mirror instead but still, turn my head some to let the driver know I see them. I love my mirror and won't ride in traffic without it.
might also consider using your left arm to signal your intention to move to the left. I extend my arm fully and kinda wave it to let everyone know I'm merging to the left.
Adding a mirror in the helmet is adding a blind point in front of you. Developing the habit of looking behind is more safe.
Exactly !
How about also the danger of the reflection of the sun beaming in your eyes from the mirror?
@@DryhumorGuy-1 Good point !
The mirror should be located in the upper left of your vision, such that it doesn't block your view of what is ahead. Not all helmet mirrors provide the adjustment for this, though.
@@SkyhawkSteve I thought I had seen the mirrors somewhat in that position. But I was thinking about when you are riding In an aggressive position with your head forward and downward with your eyes upward....could that one little mirror be In just the right spot to block your vision at just the perfect moment to cause a bad accident? It only takes a fraction of a second for it to happen....
I use a wrist mirror for years now, for me it's the best choice, works very well, doesn't make me dizzy and it's reaaly easy to just close. I neve used a radar, but I would if it wasn't so expensive in my country. Still, I always look back to be certain. Thanks for your videos, they're awesome and don't have the "bike snob" approach, after all 'go ride your bike should be the first message ever' kkkkkkk
Awesomesauce, thank you for watching 👍
I'm 66 and I have a lot of experience with bad car drivers.
All those opinions are worth listening to.
Personally I always look back when I hear a car coming and the simple fact of looking back will get the car going far from you and /or you will be abble to apreciate the good or bad car driver instantly.
A good feeling about the noise of the incoming car ( if you don't look back ) can give you informations about the bad car driver but only at 50% acurate.
A bad car driver passing you intentionnaly is aware of what "he" is doing because if you just raise your hand to mention the bad behaviour you will see "him" giving you the bad finger as "he" looks to "his" mirror.
When looking back to go left I will not just look but turn my head as far as I can because a simple look back will not allow you having a good sight, even if with the age coming it's more difficult.
Your videos are great.
I use a mirror all the time. HOWEVER, bike mirrors, just like cars have BLIND SPOTS. I still need to look over my shoulder because I’m an older cyclist. I have avoided many dangerous situations because I LOOKED.
I’m with you, I turn around to check on traffic, but I use hand signals to let the drivers know that I’m intending to move to my right or left. And yes I too have a mirror at the end of the drop downs.
TriEye mirror cycling glasses are amazing.
I use to ride with a bar-end mirror but found I was constantly checking my mirror instead of enjoying the ride or watching in front of me. Tried helmet mirrors but found they always sat right outside my vision (I wear prescription glasses). When I did find one that sit in the right spot, like you it took some time for my eyes to refocus on the distance. But the Varia - total game changer. It's not perfect, but it sure helps you focus on everything in front and to the sides UNTIL it's time to look back. I can tell from the sound how close a car is and how close it will pass but that notification from 150m or more that a car is coming helps me ride more aware. Your video on shoulder checks is spot on, too. The one thing rarely mentioned in Varia reviews is something drivers have commented on - when the Varia detects cars, it changes the light pattern. Drivers have told me this catches their eye and has made me more visible.
I use a mirror and a radar . Amazon has the best small mirror for glasses love it . Question is try taking off your car rear view mirror and you driving experiences and safe go down hill . Same on a bike . The glasses mounted mirror is the best .
For me personally I like the mirror, while it takes a while to get use to it. I wouldn't ride without one. Also I have a blinkie light on my helmet & behind my rear set post, which makes a huge difference on riding on the road. Of course looking back to make sure before making a turn is a must. That's usually the only time I turn my head, but then I ride on very, very low traffic country roads , which makes riding enjoyable after riding in & around the city for many years.
I have a handle bar mirror, I shudder to ride without it. I check the mirror to see if a car is coming and then I use your drop shoulder method to also visually check. Cars are much closer than the mirror indicates. Thanks for teaching that method.
That’s some bravery trying it out in NYC lol. Road riding been so dangerous with distracted drivers. I don’t think I could trust anything but my eyes. We’ve traded in our roads for gravel now a days. Keep up the fun content!
I've used a mirror for years, but I found your advice on how to look over your shoulder very helpful. Even with a mirror there are times when I feel the need to look over should.
Good point about the body language of a head check. It is a signal to other road users.
Motorcycle training says to never just use your mirrors. Always do a head check. I do that on the bicycle as well.
Funny, instructive and beautiful city shots. Thanks
Thank you 🙏
I have a Suunto radar which I purchased about 9 months ago. It works very well as you mention for the Garmin radar. I also ride with a Shokz Openrun headset paired by bluetooth to the phone. This allows the radar warning tone to be audible even in a high noise environment. I liked the tips you gave in the previous video for turning your head because I still need to check on my riding partners whereabouts before blowing a buger.
I recently converted from a handlebar mirror to a flat helmet mirror. I like it much better. A slight twist of the neck and you can see pretty much everything going on behind you. I use it mostly for general awareness. I like to know what is coming up behind me and if a car is about to buzz me a little too closely. Cars are getting quieter and I have slight hearing loss, so I really like the extra security I get from it. Now, for getting across a lane or two to make a left turn....I will turn my head completely to look behind me. I want to be 100% sure before I jut out into a lane of traffic.
I liked the first video and tried to put those tips into practice. It was helpful, thanks. I also have the radar - it's really useful - great as a first step - but I still ALWAYS turn my head
I use over the shoulder, my mirror and stopping. I’m going to get the radar. Thanks for this posting. It’s they are good reminders.
Mirror user here, but training to do a full look back without weaving is an essential skill I am working on.
Anticipate and be ready to STOP if a car's nose is crawling into the bike lane BEFORE the driver sees you from in front of the parked cars and there is full speed traffic next to the bike lane. Also a prioriy is to be VISIBLE with colors, lights, and bells. MAKE NOISE as you approach that blind car nose.
Great video. Your final comments are spot on.
Thanks for watching 👍
I agree with your first video - people need to learn how to turn their head while still riding forward. It's a basic cycling skill - even with a car we are taught to check our blind spots by turning our heads - all these cameras and radars in modern cars IMO give people a sense of false confidence and I see driving skills lacking today (I'm 54). People tailgate (no more 3 second rule), speed and generally are not aware. I'm all for technology in our lives, but the beauty of a bicycle is it's analog, mechanical and requires no batteries which makes it an excellent way to commute. Good for you for having an open mind and testing all this out - but I'm with you brother - TURN YOUR HEAD! Great content - thanks!
I don't have a mirror at the moment, but I do miss it. The main purpose of a mirror for me is that if you can see a car coming you don't have to bother to turn to look - however, I never use/used it as absolute confirmation that the road is clear. So, my process was typically - check mirror - if I can see a car it's not clear, so no need to turn to check - once car passes, check mirror again - if it looks clear in the mirror, turn to look to confirm if it really is clear.
I ride with Cycliq FLY6 and FLY12 camera/lights (which I love) and I also use a small mirror attached to my glasses. It gives me peace of mind when I’m riding on the road-which is invaluable. The ability to glance up and take note of the conditions behind allows me to position myself and be ready before it happens. Of course I always turn my head and give hand directions before making any moves. Really, it comes down to what works for you. If you’re comfortable without a mirror and keeping your head on a swivel, cool. But you’re right, it takes time to get used to a mirror and learn how to get it positioned properly.
You are so right about turning your head. I can't believe its not second nature like pedaling is to all cyclists. I don't cycle in the city as you do, I road ride in a pac out in the country. Not to long ago I started using a mirror on the bar end. It was a real eye opener when I rode at the back of our pac. I was never aware of how many cars slow down to our groups speed for a very long time, even though there is another open lane to pass. For this reason alone I decided to leave it on the bike. It took some getting used to. I had learn how to quickly look at it and re focus on my position in the pac. Now I have two habits, check the mirror for on coming traffic, and turn my head when making lane changes.
I use a helmet mirror, but nothing beats taking a look. The electric cars a too quiet and any car can come up behind you without you seeing it in the mirror as you navigate road hazards. Heck, even driving without looking over your shoulder as you change lanes can be a disaster. Why take the chance on a bike?
I have varia rtl515 and i love it. It removes a lot of stress during cycling, only bad thing with it - you don't know who's behind you, another cyclist, angry dog or truck :) Anw, if i need move to the left i stop, look around, let other cars pass and do that when it's safe.
My bike has an upright posture and swept back handlebars so big mirrors on the handlebars are perfect. Being a motorcycle rider the experience was familiar to me. It's not a substitute for looking behind you when you cross lanes. It does help you to be aware of what is going on behind you. I love them!
Excellent video. I'm 75. I have to be very careful, and try to always STOP and LOOK if in doubt about where cars are.
Riding after 30+ years here, in the jungle were no one respects any single road law, regulation or nothing. I always first put my arm up, signalling I'm turning, then look back if I can turn, and then turn. No mirrors. The radar only for open roads, where cars do over 60mph. Great video.
Nice video. I think looking back would help the driver slightly, but wouldn't hand signals more?
I was using helmet mirrors 45 years ago, mostly home made ones. There were times when I was road racing and the other riders behind me were amazed that I could cross over to the center to make a turn without looking back, it was also great to keep an eye on riders about to jump past me.
I love your test! Heavn't heard about radar yet, but what I like in simple look back, that it gives information to drivers, that you are looking and thinking about changing direction. It also gives the quickest overview on whole situation. Mirrors can be shaky on bumpy roads, but outside city they provide information about quick comming car (because you exactly know where to expect them). Personally I dream about backward camera on my handlebar.
Nice review of the gear.. the radar is tempting.. and combined with turning is perfect.
"l'angle mort ... sans ... t'es mort" - great video ! thanks !
I use my mirror to let me know when it is most safe to turn my head and look back, I always look back to confirm befor doing anything.
Agree entirely with what you say. One thing I would have pointed out though is that the Garmin Varia only flags approaching traffic, so if something sits behind you for a while it will disappear from the display...
I have a Varia and it's great at giving a heads up for approaching traffic. However, it's always best to double check by turning around 👍
I’ve been practicing the tips you give in previous video and I’m getting better at it. Then again I ride in rural areas so lucky for me very little traffic. I’m gonna check out the radar. Thanks for the tips.
Well, you've got a point of view. Personally I've been using handlebar mirrors for many many years and they give me a good awareness of what's going on around me. Mirrycle in my case. A bell is another essential.
Your tip to dip your shoulder and bend your arm, really worked well for me.
Great advice. I’m with you. I don’t like mirrors attached to my helmet for several reasons. First like you mentioned they can be a distraction. Second if you crash do I want something that might end up causing injury to my eye or head. And third what about if the sun is shining behind me? That reflected sunlight could be at best annoying. I’m a subscriber. I’ve taught many riders how to look back without swerving. One easy way is to point with your hand behind you with the side you want to look before turning your head. That trailing arm will help keep you straight.
Thanks for your content. 👍🚴♂️
The first skill I recommend to newbie cyclists is the ability to look back without swerving. I have a radar and really like it, but I consider it extra information and will not move into a traffic lane without actually looking back.
I turn and look when I can but I like a mirror for situational awareness. I used to use a handlebar mounted mirror but I found that when riding on really rough surfaces it bounces so much that it is useless. I now use a Bike Peddler Take a L👀K mirror that mounts on my eyeglasses and I love it. I may have to look into a radar someday, though.
I use a rubber band to assist holding my helmet mounted mirror. It goes from the mirror arm thru a helmet cooling hole and back to the mirror arm. It keeps the mirror in place and greatly reduces vibrations giving me a clear picture of the road behind me before I make a left turn. I also stay keenly alert for the sounds of an oncoming vehicle. These have kept me safe for many years.
My experience...I started seriously road riding about 18 years ago in Chicago and mostly south suburbs. I commuted daily to work. 10 miles one way on busy streets. Some with little or no bike lane. No mirrors starting out. I looked back for traffic. After a short time I noticed 2 things. Neck and shoulder pain. And I was frequently honked at, yelled at, and given the finger. I then went to the small rectangle mirror attached to my glasses. MUCH MUCH smaller than that clunky thing in your video. Wow! What a change. With the mirror adjusted right. All I needed was a slight head movement and I saw everything coming behind me. The mirror I use is 3/4" wide and a 1.5 " long. I am never without it when I ride. No neck and shoulder pain and only get honked at by the typical driver who hates bikes...for no other reason. I now ride in much less traffic in Michigan. When with other riders who don't have mirrors I am the one ALWAYS saying "car back!". My only problem is on one way streets. Always trying to stay on the right side so I can see traffic in my mirror. Over the years there are little things that have helped me in big ways road riding. That little mirror on my glasses ranks near #1!
I like the little aero-ish mirrors that plug into the drop of my bar. Can't look around to much, but once set it's good.
Most of my rides are solo and on roads with light traffic but it’s almost all single lane, mostly 80-100kph zones.
I have the Garmin and it is very good for situational awareness. It gives good warning of approaching vehicles (even other bikes) allows you to focus on a good line and the moving graphics help you understand the closing speed and number of vehicles. It reduces the need to head check with multiple vehicles passing because you can see them on the display and count them off before having a peak back.
Thank you for the testing and advice
I use a mirror (attached to glasses) but I don't think it substitutes for turning my head if I'm going to move left or turn. It's an easy way to get a general sense of what's happening behind me. And I agree with the "use all your senses" approach - I never use earbuds or anything that affects my hearing when riding. Alertness to sound and visual cues in the mirror are the main ways I stay aware of approaching cars. I'd consider a radar at a lower price point, but even then I'd still use a mirror.
Had a mirror but radar works better. My number one safety tip is to find less traveled roads even if it takes longer. Don’t assume you have a right to be on the road take the sidewalk if necessary to navigate around a congested area.
Well, I agree to a point, we have a right to be on the road, as a matter-of-fact we are supposed to be on the road according to the law, but like you said, try to ride on the sidewalk sometimes if it makes more sense for safety purposes. Just did it myself the other day.
When I'm driving a car and I go to change lanes... First I check the mirror, then I turn my head to look. I do both on the bike too. Alas, neither my bike nor car use radar.
Great video. And, to put your point succinctly, it is well documented that the overwhelming majority of communication is nonverbal much in the way of body language. Guess what looking and acknowledging another road user is? You guessed it: nonverbal communication. That being said, I made eye contact w/ a driver at a cross street stop sign. We made contact, I was going ~18-20mph commuting to work in travel lane, and she still pulled out across me to make a left turn onto the main road. So now, I just assume I’m invisible.
I've been cycling my entire adult life (longer than I care to admit but 'Woodstock' had just entered the vocabulary). For me it has to be a handlebar mirror. In fact if I had to choose between a helmet or a handlebar mirror when I'm riding (if for some reason I was forced to choose just one or the other), I'd take the mirror. I prefer a good handlebar mirror because I use it not just for making left turns but I like to keep an eye on what's going on behind me regularly. The mirror gives me intel on what's behind while I can keep looking forward for pot holes, debris, parked cars with opening doors, etc. So as for me, it's a mirror, a good one on the handlebar that I can check at a glance and that won't be constantly in my face.
Forget some aero loss, use a larger convex mirror mounted sufficiently further on/from the hoods if on dropbars.
Mirror on helmet means you need to hold your head straight to find the right behind view. It's trying to use a mirror like a head lamp.
Tested a few mirrors. For road cycling, the Cateye BM 24 is the best IMO. It’s discrete and stable on the handlebar end, and the magnification is just nice to see cars at the rear far enough.
I do always the shoulder look back, and i have radar and a mirror. Its a automatic,
and good test how the neck work in my 50s :)
I use a mirror to plan my manoeuvre so I’m not constantly turning to check if clear, but I’ll always turn my head before I commit. And use clear body language for drivers.
My mirror also helps me know if someone is coming up behind my on country roads, so if there is someone coming from the front I can squeeze over a bit. I wouldn’t want to be looking back all that often on a long ride.
I agree. I use a mirror to see what's coming up behind, but if changing lanes definitely turn my head to confirm.
Yes, turn your head to look. Practice doing it. That's the safest way to go, especially in combination with a good handlebar mirror (when necessary, stop and pullover to right and then cross when safe, as you pointed out). Took me a while of trying different mirrors before I finally found an excellent pair--left and right side. Would never trust anything but turning my head to look, especially in heavy, big city, multilane heavy traffic. Fact is I wouldn’t ride in such traffic conditions ordinarily. But it’s good to know how to ride in heavy traffic safely. I use Meachow handlebar mirrors on my hybrid bike.
Very good vid! Couldn't agree more....no substitute for turning head to see behind you , especially riding in a bunch.
Cheers from down under 👍
I've been cycling since I was 6, became a "serious cyclist" at 12 when I complete my first century, and spent some time as an amateur racer, spending a season racing in Europe. I have never used a mirror, I have a thing called a "neck" which allows me to turn my head in several different directions. I don't have to contort my body into odd positions to put my eye on what is coming up behind me, and I have never seen a mirror in the pro or amateur racing peloton. I can easily see what is behind my by looking over or under my arm. Cars come with mirrors, but drivers are still taught to look over their shoulders when turning or changing lanes because mirrors may not show everything coming up behind or next to you.
The other important thing I have is a pair ears, which I don't stuff with ear buds or headphones. With my ears, I can hear a vehicle coming up behind behind me, I can hear if it is a car or truck, I can hear how fast it is going, and I can even hear if it is driving near the shoulder as I can hear the tires running over shoulder debris. I've played tag with cars on city streets and highways on a bike in some of the world's busiest metro areas (I live in Tokyo), and have managed to ride pretty long without being run over.
Who were these people commenting on your previous video??
I thought your I thought your video talking about safe ways to check over your shoulder without possibly putting yourself or motorists in danger was the spot on content and people instead comment that you should get a mirror or a bike radar?? What?
I think simple checking your over your shoulder is a much more effective way to ensure your safety. those other things are good, but you still have to be able to make sure that everyone is safe otherwise!
I also ride a motorcycle. Part of the test in the UK is correct use of shoulder check. It's also referred to as a "life saver" Anybody who alters course changes lanes on roads without doing a "life saver" and relies solely on mirrors or gadgets is on borrowed time.
I have given up riding my racing bike in city traffic -I think my neck must be stiff !! I must try a mirror on my racer even on quiet country roads - city it's now
my old mountain bike ( saved from a trash skip) - I stop to look around to be honest when I'm riding in the city !
Great video a very important topic ! - Thanks for video !
Kudos to your common sense, Sir. The head turn is a sign, yes.
Also, electronics can fail without us knowing.
On my commuter bike I have the small convex mirror that clips on try end of my drop handle bar . It works really well
Ai have limited peripheral vision so use radar for early warning, bar end mirror for quick glances but nothing will ever replace turn and look before manover. I did try the helmet mirror but as I need bi-focal glasses they are out of my focal range.
Ive found that when I *only* head check, drivers can assume I'm about to change lanes in front of them, and sometimes slow down, creating a situation I don't want to be in (I'd rather wait until they pass). Using a mirror for those quick reference checks first, then only head checking when I want to turn (kind of like driving a car), makes everything smoother and avoids those awkward situations. Also, a mirror is extremely useful on highways and fast country roads, IMO, especially with a headwind which compromises the ability to hear vehicles coming from behind; yes you can head check, but it gets tedious to do it all the time just in case a truck is sneaking up.