Love it. Brilliant. You've hatched a great exposé on planned obsolescence and how to deal with it. This will encourage consumers to come out of their shells and follow suit. That's no yoke. I'm serious. Pedal on. Keep doing eggsactly what you've been doing. You've managed to be well done without becoming hard-boiled. OK, I'll stop. Keep the sunny side up. 😊
Great video per usual. I don't have any pearls of wisdom re: bike parts that last though. Happy to be amongst the 40k. You give us old guys inspiration.
Time Atac, got three pairs still going strong 15 years later, 8years on a pair of cleats! Shimano un71 hollow axle SQUARE TAPER BB- still on my single speed MTB 18 years later, not regular use but damn impressive.
Agree with you completely about frames... I've broken at least a dozen frames, and the majority of those breaks happened in the 90's (I started MTBing in '95).
Not MTB parts, however, worth recommending. I ride BMX. Demolition has an incredible Cromoly sprocket called mugatu, that lasted me so far over 10 years, and is still perfect. Barely any stripping of the teeth. Also, their Zero Rim-been riding those for 12 whole years, and still no need to change them.
Both for sure and when they don't respond to criticism, spread the news online and help protect consumers from legacy brands that take consumer loyalty for granted.
I have three sets of MKS pedals. The oldest is three years on my bike and it's still very smooth. The quick release mechanism also still works flawlessly.
110% Agreed 👍 My 2003 Wellgo dual-platform pedals still kicking with no issues for 2+ decades. I took them apart, clean & re-grease every 3 years. Still working.........
I'm a Shimano pedal guy. Had a set of low end model (520 maybe) that just never worked like XTs. After falling a couple times because they wouldn't release, I junked them and got XTs again and never had a problem again. As for other components haven't really had a problem aside from my GoPro Hero 11 Mini, which no longer turns on/charges, etc. And the engineering term for making things cheaper is "Value Engineering".
Same thing with Look. I have a pair that is 12 years old and still works, but new ones even with ceramic bearings lasts just a year or two. They even made maintenance extra difficult with the newest edition, requiring a special Look tool to open them up. Not buying Look again.
I've noticed the same thing with my CB Eggbeaters (funny that you show a pedal egg now that I think about it). I actually took a set of an older bike to ride a tour recently. I sourced a higher quality bearing, but it's 10x what the refresh kit from CB costs. I've heard a lot of people have good luck with Shimano SPDs, but I've also heard a lot of people having issues with them. I'm not sure where to go at this point, but I'm done replacing bearings.
Thanks for the great contect. I was wondering if you're going to do a review of the new Jamis Renegade C1? Pretty curious to see how it compares to the older one. Thanks!
On road I've been on Look Keo 2 Max for years. Trouble is they only last for maybe 1 to 2 years maximum before the bearings in one of the pedals wear out. They're not overly expensive, but I'm told Shimano SPD SL go on forever.
My friends New sport Times fell apart whole top parts on both pedals theyre actually craccked so won't hold on there epoxyied just now as won't replace them under warranty
It is done on purpose everything now has a 2 to 3 year life span just a way for more sales, and secondly sorry but it is the people of today with that "oh i don't get paid enough " attitude for seeing the job through and why we end up with so much Friday afternoon specials! Yep it's now a term for the product that fails fast!
The way I understand it: In theory, planned obsolescence only works if you bet on people upgrading anyway, like in what is normally fast moving fashion or technology (smart phones and what have you). When the innovation starts to fade, the practice of obsolescence remains for a while by rebranding (new model names, new colors, new styles, etc.) to maintain revenue until the next big thing. The next big thing, however, doesn't have to be the same product, just in the same general product space. So, things like pedals, even though they might not change much if at all, benefit from a rebrand if accompanied by other new and unrelated shiny things like electronic shifting; sort of like a piggy back. Now this *can* happen - and frequently does - in slow moving markets if you control most of it (like in monopolies).
The design of the Time pedal actually sound like something I could solve a problem for me. A motorcycle accident left me with severe nerve damage in my left leg and limited muscle control meaning I often accidentally unclip from most brand pedals and then really struggle to clip back in while on the move. I would probably take those pedals and either replace the pin with something that has a retention system, or drill a 1mm hole down through the side of both the pedal and pin and just lock wire it in place. I'm that sort of backyard engineer rider but I know that may be a bit much for most riders.
I'll play as corpo-devil advocate, because I work for one of those monsters. The third reason are customer choices. Yes, people are often talking about quality and how they want products last longer. But when they are in the shop most of them will go for cheapest product. And typical way to make big business is to go for biggest group of customers - the group which seems to pick the product by the lowest price. And that applies to phones, washing machines, TVs, you name it. Edit: oh, let's not forget: a lot of cheapest products come from specific area of the world, one country specifically, which is specialized in stealing designs so that they don't need carry any R&D costs and just produce things. And again: even though people seem to know it, they still prefer cheapest product.
Here's the thing - I was just looking at cantilever brake levers on Amazon. They had all sorts of brands at all sorts of prices. many of the products looked exactly the same. I've run into the situation where the cheap part is the same as the expensive part. See - I figure these big companies bid out production. The cheap maker gets the bid. So the expensive part from the known brand becomes the same part as that supplied by the low bidder to other vendors. Another thing I've seen is what I'll call "milking." A major brand has spent many years building up a reputation for quality. They get bought by these venture capitalist guys. They "milk" that brand for all the money they can wring out. After customers know they've been scammed and stop paying a premium for the product then the company is no longer a cash cow. The venture capitalists shut down the operation and sell off the bones of the company. they move on and do it to another company. Oh yeh - On the way they may lay off the experienced workforce and bid the work out to that specific area of the world you've noted. I've met old folks who had their pensions robbed by these types.
I think one way to deal with this, is only buy from companies that have actual owners. Time does not, so there is no incentive for quality. I just read of a company that told Walmart to shove it, after Walmart suggested they reduce their quality, so that Walmart could sell it cheaper. That company has an owner.
I had this same thing happen on my Shimano 105 pedals. After pushing the pin back in several times, I finally mixed up some epoxy and used that on both ends of the pin and shoved it back into place. On both pedals. So far, so good, but why do I have to do this on a $100 pair of pedals? My older metal-bodied Shimano pedals used a screw-in pin and it never came loose.
I got a pair TIME ATAC ALIUM from 2001 and are great pedals, but i dont use anymore for one simple reason, the clamps cost here in Spain almost 40 euros, a pair Shimano SPD M525 brand new whit clamps 30 euros, and used in great conditions for 15 euros... Easy.
I figured TIME quality would go down once SRAM bought up their rights to their pedals. I've more SRAM stuff fail (Red, Force, X0, GX, XX etc) then any other brand or component manufacturers. Cannondale also really ushered in the outsourcing with first OEM Taiwanese fork and crappy stuff like internal headset and BB30 after they went bankrupt back in 2003. Cervelo also pioneered non standard aero seat post, poor build quality and excessive pricing. There's the issue using mt specific tooling on road groupsets to keep cost down. Examples being outboard bearing and 10T cog. Stuff that is excellent - Phil Wood BB, White Industries cranks, Chris King Headsets, Shimano pedals and hubs. I think Selle Italia well now quite overpriced still has high level of quality and consistency Thomson not quite what it used to be with cheaper bolts is still the overall quality is good.
Cheapest shimano spd (PD-M520) are (IME) one of the most durable clipless pedals about. People sing the praises of Time and Crank Bros for low weight, function and float, but not durability (at least not anymore for time). Sometimes the boring choice is better.
One big WTF moments was recently when I watched a video from a pro mountainbiker that he had a SRAM XX1 Eagle AXS rear derailleur (electronic) for three years which costs a whopping 800 bucks and because he didn't always remove the battery one of the pogo pins failed (obviously the spring inside broke) and what said SRAM service? literally "screw you and buy a new one". What the heck, these top-tier groupsets nowadays cost more than a Rohloff gear hub or even a Pinion gearbox and out of warranty they seemingly don't even provide you some spare parts, while these two aren't exactly comparable to derailleur shifting, these are definitely built to LAST, the highest mileage on a Rohloff Hub were 470 000 kilometres in September 2022 (I'm sure he has already done 500k now). I don't think modern stuff like hydraulic [disc] brakes and electronic shifting is wrong, but especially the electronic shifting makes it overcomplicated, I'm sure we will still have mechanical actuated shifting available on the market for decades to come, at least in the budget range where they're dirt cheap, even compared to "mid-tier" groupsets like 105 Di2.
Surprised theres been no mention of how SRAM bought Time a few years ago, might be coincidencem but they're not known for prioritising durability. btw my oldest set of the metal Spéciale pedals are over 6 years old and still work great, a bit roughed up from wear and pedal strikes, theyve been well used
The archetypal summary of this whole yaddah yaddah came today when Tupperware went bankrupt and shut down. They made a quality product that worked very well and never wore out. At a certain point their market was simply not there any more. For the rest of the market, there were the cheap carp, throw away pieces from $1 Store. End of story.
Generally the sport of riding and owning cool gear has created a newfound sector. Many brands turned their backs in the consumer. Remember when Mike at Specialized said, his brand is for the people. LOL. Bottomless is Corporate Greed. Strange the very thing that tried growing the sport is its own enemy. Cycling is not an accessible sport/hobby it once was. Events mainly was put together by volunteers and sport passionate people. Today, it’s. A business and if it doesn’t look profitable well, it falls away. We just lost our UCI gravel grand fondo for this very reason.
It's easier and cheaper to manufacture things that can't be repaired. Pre-1990's bike parts are made to be easy to maintain, parts were available and if taken care of last a very long time.
Time Pedals (separate from frames/bikes) have been acquired by SRAM a few years ago. Your pedal likely predates the acquisition. However, the SRAM Time pedals really do not appear any different than the product line they acquired. 🤷🏼♂️
Planned Obsolescence is an actual theory, but aside from the fashion industry, it isn't really a business practice in most industries. Quality Fade, though, that is a real thing. Chasing cost reductions leading to lower (but still "acceptable") quality. Especially when the entire industry is doing the same thing. Also called the "Race to the Bottom."
My experience regarding frames are the opposite, i still have all my steel frames from the 80s and 90s that i beat the living hell out of. I hoard old parts, used and NOS, as of today i don't ride anything later than my 2012 Surly Pugsley, my oldest commuter is from the early 1930s, made in Norway, these bikes are built like tanks and continues to take abuse, year after year, everyday. New bikes do not appeal to me what so ever, they're like modern cars, not only forgettable but built to be disposable after a few years, what's the point and fun in that? Most of my bikes are either equipped with a Fichtel & Sachs 2, 3 speed or coasterbrake hubs, they can easily to outlive a Rohloff hub.
Don’t forget the directive / regulation to be more environmentally friendly. (Type of material, glue, chemicals, paint, method, etc) Positives and negatives…
Just buy a donkey 🫏 for $30 dollars it will last you for 30 years you will need to feed it and maintain its feet 🦶, but it will probably outlive you and if not you can eat it. Delicious 🤤 donkey 🫏 that you love ❤️
There's a huge parallel to the auto industry. GM Went bankrupt because they made cars that lasted. With your insight into bike parks, It feels like it's headed the same way.
Well that's capitalism for ya! I recently learned that in East Germany they had drinking glasses made of something similar to gorilla glass. They wouldn't break if you dropped them. Take a guess why no one is producing those anymore.
How much float do you need? I used to use Speedplay frogs for a long time but found crank brother with the cleats in the floaty setting to be quite good. Also many sizes to pick from a d they sell service kits.
How about: 4. Shit engineering? New generation engineers don't think through the full product life cycle, factor in wear, material creep, and build designs that work through all conditions.
Could be that these guys in charge outsource the engineering. The firm they hire gets the design out the door and they are gone. If they contract it out, they don't need permanent staff on the payroll. The firm could be anywhere in the world. Low bids get the work.
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Pedal egg ... you're cracking me up.
Haha, egg-cellent!
Love it. Brilliant. You've hatched a great exposé on planned obsolescence and how to deal with it. This will encourage consumers to come out of their shells and follow suit. That's no yoke. I'm serious. Pedal on. Keep doing eggsactly what you've been doing. You've managed to be well done without becoming hard-boiled. OK, I'll stop. Keep the sunny side up. 😊
most eggcellent reply ever :)
Maybe this happened since Time was bought by SRAM...
I only buy bikes that have tech which can easily be found at a swap meet.
Great video per usual. I don't have any pearls of wisdom re: bike parts that last though. Happy to be amongst the 40k. You give us old guys inspiration.
Much appreciated!
You're missing the fact that SRAM bought Time pedals (not frames) in 2021. I am also not a fan of SRAM goods
The lowest price Shimano SPD pedals are heavy but easy to service and can live for decades.
Time Atac, got three pairs still going strong 15 years later, 8years on a pair of cleats! Shimano un71 hollow axle SQUARE TAPER BB- still on my single speed MTB 18 years later, not regular use but damn impressive.
Agree with you completely about frames... I've broken at least a dozen frames, and the majority of those breaks happened in the 90's (I started MTBing in '95).
Not MTB parts, however, worth recommending. I ride BMX. Demolition has an incredible Cromoly sprocket called mugatu, that lasted me so far over 10 years, and is still perfect. Barely any stripping of the teeth. Also, their Zero Rim-been riding those for 12 whole years, and still no need to change them.
Both for sure and when they don't respond to criticism, spread the news online and help protect consumers from legacy brands that take consumer loyalty for granted.
I have three sets of MKS pedals. The oldest is three years on my bike and it's still very smooth. The quick release mechanism also still works flawlessly.
110% Agreed 👍 My 2003 Wellgo dual-platform pedals still kicking with no issues for 2+ decades. I took them apart, clean & re-grease every 3 years. Still working.........
I'm a Shimano pedal guy. Had a set of low end model (520 maybe) that just never worked like XTs. After falling a couple times because they wouldn't release, I junked them and got XTs again and never had a problem again. As for other components haven't really had a problem aside from my GoPro Hero 11 Mini, which no longer turns on/charges, etc. And the engineering term for making things cheaper is "Value Engineering".
You are doing it wrong if m520 gives you this much trouble.
Yeah, it was incredibly brittle, but the Manitou FS was such a beautiful bike ❤
Yes it was!
Just replace the bearings in the old ones...
Shimano M520s. Will outlast frames and riders.
I have them on 4 bikes ......
MTB's and road bikes 😊
Same thing with Look. I have a pair that is 12 years old and still works, but new ones even with ceramic bearings lasts just a year or two. They even made maintenance extra difficult with the newest edition, requiring a special Look tool to open them up. Not buying Look again.
For the fix....
I would secure the pin with 2 component epoxy glue....
I've noticed the same thing with my CB Eggbeaters (funny that you show a pedal egg now that I think about it). I actually took a set of an older bike to ride a tour recently. I sourced a higher quality bearing, but it's 10x what the refresh kit from CB costs. I've heard a lot of people have good luck with Shimano SPDs, but I've also heard a lot of people having issues with them. I'm not sure where to go at this point, but I'm done replacing bearings.
Thanks for the great contect. I was wondering if you're going to do a review of the new Jamis Renegade C1? Pretty curious to see how it compares to the older one. Thanks!
About to upload a little something that talks about the new C1
On road I've been on Look Keo 2 Max for years. Trouble is they only last for maybe 1 to 2 years maximum before the bearings in one of the pedals wear out. They're not overly expensive, but I'm told Shimano SPD SL go on forever.
The Time pedals company was bought by Sram in 2021. Maybe that has something to do with it...
I hope there is a patent pending on the Pedal egg!!! Don't let Shimano get that one xD
My friends New sport Times fell apart whole top parts on both pedals theyre actually craccked so won't hold on there epoxyied just now as won't replace them under warranty
It is done on purpose everything now has a 2 to 3 year life span just a way for more sales, and secondly sorry but it is the people of today with that "oh i don't get paid enough " attitude for seeing the job through and why we end up with so much Friday afternoon specials! Yep it's now a term for the product that fails fast!
The way I understand it: In theory, planned obsolescence only works if you bet on people upgrading anyway, like in what is normally fast moving fashion or technology (smart phones and what have you). When the innovation starts to fade, the practice of obsolescence remains for a while by rebranding (new model names, new colors, new styles, etc.) to maintain revenue until the next big thing. The next big thing, however, doesn't have to be the same product, just in the same general product space. So, things like pedals, even though they might not change much if at all, benefit from a rebrand if accompanied by other new and unrelated shiny things like electronic shifting; sort of like a piggy back. Now this *can* happen - and frequently does - in slow moving markets if you control most of it (like in monopolies).
Couldn't you retro-fit (FTF) a c-clip on inside of the pin to stop the pop...
...if you have the 'time' that is.
😂
The design of the Time pedal actually sound like something I could solve a problem for me. A motorcycle accident left me with severe nerve damage in my left leg and limited muscle control meaning I often accidentally unclip from most brand pedals and then really struggle to clip back in while on the move. I would probably take those pedals and either replace the pin with something that has a retention system, or drill a 1mm hole down through the side of both the pedal and pin and just lock wire it in place. I'm that sort of backyard engineer rider but I know that may be a bit much for most riders.
I'll play as corpo-devil advocate, because I work for one of those monsters. The third reason are customer choices. Yes, people are often talking about quality and how they want products last longer. But when they are in the shop most of them will go for cheapest product. And typical way to make big business is to go for biggest group of customers - the group which seems to pick the product by the lowest price. And that applies to phones, washing machines, TVs, you name it.
Edit: oh, let's not forget: a lot of cheapest products come from specific area of the world, one country specifically, which is specialized in stealing designs so that they don't need carry any R&D costs and just produce things. And again: even though people seem to know it, they still prefer cheapest product.
Here's the thing - I was just looking at cantilever brake levers on Amazon. They had all sorts of brands at all sorts of prices. many of the products looked exactly the same. I've run into the situation where the cheap part is the same as the expensive part. See - I figure these big companies bid out production. The cheap maker gets the bid. So the expensive part from the known brand becomes the same part as that supplied by the low bidder to other vendors.
Another thing I've seen is what I'll call "milking." A major brand has spent many years building up a reputation for quality. They get bought by these venture capitalist guys. They "milk" that brand for all the money they can wring out. After customers know they've been scammed and stop paying a premium for the product then the company is no longer a cash cow. The venture capitalists shut down the operation and sell off the bones of the company. they move on and do it to another company. Oh yeh - On the way they may lay off the experienced workforce and bid the work out to that specific area of the world you've noted. I've met old folks who had their pensions robbed by these types.
I think one way to deal with this, is only buy from companies that have actual owners. Time does not, so there is no incentive for quality. I just read of a company that told Walmart to shove it, after Walmart suggested they reduce their quality, so that Walmart could sell it cheaper. That company has an owner.
I had this same thing happen on my Shimano 105 pedals. After pushing the pin back in several times, I finally mixed up some epoxy and used that on both ends of the pin and shoved it back into place. On both pedals. So far, so good, but why do I have to do this on a $100 pair of pedals? My older metal-bodied Shimano pedals used a screw-in pin and it never came loose.
Well, that's a quality fading ending ;-)
Maybe replace the bearings on those old pedals?
I got a pair TIME ATAC ALIUM from 2001 and are great pedals, but i dont use anymore for one simple reason, the clamps cost here in Spain almost 40 euros, a pair Shimano SPD M525 brand new whit clamps 30 euros, and used in great conditions for 15 euros... Easy.
Maybe you could add a couple drops of Gorilla glue (or similar adhesive) to the pin before resetting it?
I figured TIME quality would go down once SRAM bought up their rights to their pedals. I've more SRAM stuff fail (Red, Force, X0, GX, XX etc) then any other brand or component manufacturers. Cannondale also really ushered in the outsourcing with first OEM Taiwanese fork and crappy stuff like internal headset and BB30 after they went bankrupt back in 2003. Cervelo also pioneered non standard aero seat post, poor build quality and excessive pricing. There's the issue using mt specific tooling on road groupsets to keep cost down. Examples being outboard bearing and 10T cog.
Stuff that is excellent - Phil Wood BB, White Industries cranks, Chris King Headsets, Shimano pedals and hubs. I think Selle Italia well now quite overpriced still has high level of quality and consistency Thomson not quite what it used to be with cheaper bolts is still the overall quality is good.
Cheapest shimano spd (PD-M520) are (IME) one of the most durable clipless pedals about. People sing the praises of Time and Crank Bros for low weight, function and float, but not durability (at least not anymore for time). Sometimes the boring choice is better.
Part of me likes the look of those egg-nano-vacume pedals but I'll stick with my crank brothers egg beaters 😂
One big WTF moments was recently when I watched a video from a pro mountainbiker that he had a SRAM XX1 Eagle AXS rear derailleur (electronic) for three years which costs a whopping 800 bucks and because he didn't always remove the battery one of the pogo pins failed (obviously the spring inside broke) and what said SRAM service? literally "screw you and buy a new one".
What the heck, these top-tier groupsets nowadays cost more than a Rohloff gear hub or even a Pinion gearbox and out of warranty they seemingly don't even provide you some spare parts, while these two aren't exactly comparable to derailleur shifting, these are definitely built to LAST, the highest mileage on a Rohloff Hub were 470 000 kilometres in September 2022 (I'm sure he has already done 500k now).
I don't think modern stuff like hydraulic [disc] brakes and electronic shifting is wrong, but especially the electronic shifting makes it overcomplicated, I'm sure we will still have mechanical actuated shifting available on the market for decades to come, at least in the budget range where they're dirt cheap, even compared to "mid-tier" groupsets like 105 Di2.
Apply Loctite, the ultra hard variant?
The ATAC cleats are designed to wear out quite fast, aren't they?
Yoooo! Theese new pedals look SIIIICK, better go hit some jumps to see if they're good!
Surprised theres been no mention of how SRAM bought Time a few years ago, might be coincidencem but they're not known for prioritising durability. btw my oldest set of the metal Spéciale pedals are over 6 years old and still work great, a bit roughed up from wear and pedal strikes, theyve been well used
I had no idea that happened. This explains a lot. Thank you for the info 👍
I had no idea that happened. This explains a lot. Thank you for the info 👍
Put a set screw above the pin, should hold it in. Or melt a metal piece into the plastic.
The archetypal summary of this whole yaddah yaddah came today when Tupperware went bankrupt and shut down. They made a quality product that worked very well and never wore out. At a certain point their market was simply not there any more. For the rest of the market, there were the cheap carp, throw away pieces from $1 Store. End of story.
Generally the sport of riding and owning cool gear has created a newfound sector. Many brands turned their backs in the consumer. Remember when Mike at Specialized said, his brand is for the people. LOL. Bottomless is Corporate Greed. Strange the very thing that tried growing the sport is its own enemy. Cycling is not an accessible sport/hobby it once was. Events mainly was put together by volunteers and sport passionate people. Today, it’s. A business and if it doesn’t look profitable well, it falls away. We just lost our UCI gravel grand fondo for this very reason.
It's easier and cheaper to manufacture things that can't be repaired. Pre-1990's bike parts are made to be easy to maintain, parts were available and if taken care of last a very long time.
The problem is you keep buying it
Time Pedals (separate from frames/bikes) have been acquired by SRAM a few years ago. Your pedal likely predates the acquisition. However, the SRAM Time pedals really do not appear any different than the product line they acquired. 🤷🏼♂️
Flat pedals FTW
Planned Obsolescence is an actual theory, but aside from the fashion industry, it isn't really a business practice in most industries. Quality Fade, though, that is a real thing. Chasing cost reductions leading to lower (but still "acceptable") quality. Especially when the entire industry is doing the same thing. Also called the "Race to the Bottom."
I’d probably make a pin that would accept a circlip myself, and I can’t believe you’ve only now learned about ‘Planned Obsolescence’.
Burr the end of the holes over at each end of the pin or use something like loctite.
I thought egg beaters are only from Crankbrother! 😮
My experience regarding frames are the opposite, i still have all my steel frames from the 80s and 90s that i beat the living hell out of. I hoard old parts, used and NOS, as of today i don't ride anything later than my 2012 Surly Pugsley, my oldest commuter is from the early 1930s, made in Norway, these bikes are built like tanks and continues to take abuse, year after year, everyday. New bikes do not appeal to me what so ever, they're like modern cars, not only forgettable but built to be disposable after a few years, what's the point and fun in that? Most of my bikes are either equipped with a Fichtel & Sachs 2, 3 speed or coasterbrake hubs, they can easily to outlive a Rohloff hub.
There was a time when Time was French then it became American, so... you now have to TAP on the pin...
Shimano PD-M540.
Old school campagnola super record pedals toe clips straps
Don’t forget the directive / regulation to be more environmentally friendly. (Type of material, glue, chemicals, paint, method, etc) Positives and negatives…
How about "hacking" the design, modify to so it doesn't fail anymore? Planned obsolescence is real tho and we should get products that last.
Just buy a donkey 🫏 for $30 dollars it will last you for 30 years you will need to feed it and maintain its feet 🦶, but it will probably outlive you and if not you can eat it. Delicious 🤤 donkey 🫏 that you love ❤️
Glue the pin in
There's a huge parallel to the auto industry. GM Went bankrupt because they made cars that lasted. With your insight into bike parks, It feels like it's headed the same way.
Seems like Toyota has the reputation these days for cars that last. American car companies were once famous for the planned obsolescence thing.
I'm done with bike racing. Can't afford it.
Peddle egg!
Light weight or durability choose one you can't have both
why thumbs are so tiny😂
well, you know what they say about tiny thumbs :)
Good one again. 😅
if you know how to look, you will find good products.
Well that's capitalism for ya!
I recently learned that in East Germany they had drinking glasses made of something similar to gorilla glass. They wouldn't break if you dropped them. Take a guess why no one is producing those anymore.
Seems mostly a bad design - I don't understand why you keep buying what seems to be an inferior design...
They are the best for my knees, float and platform size are excellent
How much float do you need? I used to use Speedplay frogs for a long time but found crank brother with the cleats in the floaty setting to be quite good. Also many sizes to pick from a d they sell service kits.
How about:
4. Shit engineering?
New generation engineers don't think through the full product life cycle, factor in wear, material creep, and build designs that work through all conditions.
Could be that these guys in charge outsource the engineering. The firm they hire gets the design out the door and they are gone. If they contract it out, they don't need permanent staff on the payroll. The firm could be anywhere in the world. Low bids get the work.
I am an engineer, unfortunately I am often not allowed to do what I am convinced of, but have to do what purchasing and sales say.....😑
@@daniellarson3068 Outsourcing = Quality race to the bottom.