New to Army Painter Speed Paints? Then start HERE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Are these Speed Paints any good? And will they make you a better miniature painter?
Let's find out!
VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:01 - What comes in the Army Painter Mega Speed Painting Set?
01:55 - How to apply Speed Paints onto a miniature
06:05 - Applying Speed Paints onto a Metallic Basecoat
08:35 - Does water affect Speed Paint?
11.23 - Does Army Painter Speed Paint reactivate?
13.06 - How good are Army Painter Speed Paints (final thoughts)
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Something I recently discovered - Vallejo acrylic polyurethane surface primer in "grey" might be a critical tool for Speedpaint. It is pre-thinned for airbrushing, but can be brushed on manually and has superior coverage to most soupy pure-white primers. The exact tint of grey is nearly identical to GW Grey Seer primer for Contrast paint. This means it is also light enough for Speedpaint to work correctly.
Most importantly, since it can be easily brushed on, bulk-priming of models is possible without a rattle can or airbrush. In addition, I have discovered that it's really good for re-priming spot areas to reset them. The polyrethane in the mixture seems to resist color bleed due to minor reactivation of the Speedpaint under it - after a couple of coats, the surface is a sufficiently clean and solid for more Speedpaint or normal paint.
On that note, a brush-on varnish that seems to work very well on Speedpaint is also Vallejo's acrylic varnishes. Put on a very thin coat, don't overload it, and I haven't seen Speedpaint run or distort so far. The varnish dries in a few seconds, locking things down. The very fast drying time of the Vallejo varnishes may be the key - there just isn't time for the Speedpaint to truly reactivate.
These two specific Vallejo products have pretty much made Speedpaints practical and advantageous for me. I'm in a position where using rattle cans or airbrush set-up is not feasible and can only use brush-on products. Hopefully this helps others in the same boat.
Oh my gosh yes!! i bought some "Ghost Grey" surface primer last week to try it out on some Blood Bowl miniatures and i loved it - sooooooo smooth!
And yes, i have found that the Speed Paint goes on it wonderfully! :)
Thank you for sharing this with the community on here with your insight, hopefully this could be valuable information for others, and i think this now deserves to be placed as a pinned comment! :):)
Very useful info!. When you mention the varnish, do you mean the polyurethane, or the acrylic resin ones?. I own both and I'm curious about how the polyurethane one would work when shot through an airbrush (i'm currently waiting for my speedpaints to arrive so I have no way of testing it yet lol).
Greatly appreciate the diligently shot footage of how the paint behaves under different conditions!
Thank you, and I greatly appreciate the comment :) I’m just trying to help others how I can, but also create the video that I would also like to see if I were trying to learn something too. Hopefully i have hit the mark with this one! :))
One of the best videos I've watched on Speedpaints so far as you were able to take what some will just pass over as negatives or caveats and turn them into neat techniques.
Thank you very much! They were interesting to use, as I didn’t buy any contrast paints when they came out - this type of paint was totally new to me. But I soon found food used for them :)
You earned my sub with this video sir. The contrast/comparison with the various thinners was super helpful. Best breakdown I've seen yet. Thank you
Thank you very much, that’s really nice of you :)
It was something I thought may be useful, because I just automatically started using water as I painted and forgot about the medium. As I’m so used to painting that way. But thought it would be good to show the differences :) :)
Same! Totally agree 👌🏻
thx for this video. total beginner here just tryign to get a few minis to not be plastic grey, and was confused about speedpaint vs washes vs contrast paint etc. Seeing the side by side comparisons was a huge help.
Ah welcome to the hobby! :) What have you got to paint up?
Thank you, yes i really wanted to see what they could do as a basic method of painting and see how they would differ to the other methods.
After using them for a year now, they have become a fan favourite of mine whilst working on projects :)
excellent. Love the tip of dabbing off quickpaint w wet brush to reveal the metal basecoat on shield for worn look.
Thanks!! I’m definitely going to do that it with my Uruk Hai for sure - and I really really want to do some dark eldar one day and I think I would do a similar technique on them too :):)
I just started painting a year ago just to have some fun minis on the table for d&d, I am beginning to be happy with my regular thinned acrylic work and have a Blood Bowl team waiting to be painted once I feel "good" enough. I have been afraid to try speed-paints for it possibly being a crutch and stopping me from getting better, your videos have made me realize they can just be another tool in the arsenal, gonna go get a set at my LGS today and after a practice or two I'll finally crack open those Norsca Rampagers, thank you!
Amazing! I hope that you have enjoyed your year or so painting minis and learning all about it! :) I do enjoy Speed paints, and they are now just an expansion of my normal acrylic range as you can do so much with them. I'm saving my pennies so i can buy the complete set!
Sometimes it's just best to get some paints out and have a play with them to see what you can come up with, if you buy a bunch of "scrap minis" from eBay you can use them as testers - for me its a whole bunch of Goblins.
I hope to get into Blood Bowl this year as i like the minis and the game looks really fun to play!
Enjoy the Norse team when you get around to them! :):)
This is by far the best review I've seen of the speedpaint range. The comparison between the shade paint and the water/medium mix really opened my eyes, so thank you for that!
Also, those warriors of the dead look gorgeous! Now I'm very curious: how much time have you spent per model? And what were the paints you used on these models?
Last thing... When will we finally see Sam and his mystery guest? I'm looking forward to seeing my favourite Hobbit painted up!
Thank you very much, I had a blast playing around with these and I was pleasantly surprised with what possibilities they can achieve.
For the warrior of the dead I’m not 100% sure how long per model as I did 5 in about 3 hours but that was with adding highlights in as well - because I’m a sucker for that sort of thing. Without doing the highlights then you can knock off at least an hour of that.
But I shall go through all of that on the next video about it :)
So coming from me it will be the warrior of the dead next, and then it will be a couple more fellowship videos as there is a lot to do!
And I’m going to try out a video in a TH-cam shirt format to see what that’s like too. So yes I’m very busy haha
Fantastic video! I liked seeing the side by side comparison, and the difference in layers, mixing, etc.
Just got a set of speed paints about a week ago, and I’ve been practicing on some zombie minis I have. I like them so far! Especially finishing them with some standard paints for highlights/details.
Awesome! Glad you have enjoyed painting up some Zombies!! Which brand are they? (I always like to see what undead minis are out there)
Glad that you liked the video as well :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes the zombies are from the Zombicide board game, the Wild West edition called “Undead or Alive”, so they are by Cool Mini Or Not.
I also painted some dwarves to look like Duergar for an encounter my party just had.
This video earned my subscription right away.
It has triggered me into considering painting again.
Al my projects used to be: black primer and basecoat with the darkest tone and building up highlights in at least three different layers. Then use a wash and re-highlight to bring up the contrast and add layers of shading in between.
This line of paint seems to allow for so much more in only two steps: basecoat, before dry you can highlight by dry brushing off paint. Afterwards, make a pass with a waterered down version for deeper shadows where needed.
It's like two layers of paint that almost accomplish what 6 layers used to do.
Happy to have you onboard Joris! :) yes i used to do pretty much the exact same thing, i would spend a considerable amount of time on miniatures and because i only saw the Minis in a White Dwarf magazine - thats what i thought they had to be. But through my own discoveries and seeing other brands - as well as social media it was great to see just how much is out there for hobbyists!
And then when these paints came along i did get excited as i wanted to combine how i normally paint with these and have even more ways to finish a miniature/army.
As long as you are having fun and enjoy being creative whilst you paint, then i only see it as a positive and i hope that whatever you do end up painting - you enjoy it! :):)
Loved the highlighting technique with the wet brush. Going to try it.
Glad that you liked the idea! I’m waiting on some Gun Metal spray and then I’m reset to do that on some Uruk hai soon! :)
I recently bought the speedpaint set and I've been watching a few videos for ideas. Your video is easily the most detailed and creative I've found. So many cool ideas and experiments here to try out. Thank you for your creativity, and for really putting the range through its paces! I'm excited to try out all these techniques.
ah thank you kindly for the nice words :) Sometimes its just nice to have them out in front of you and just try a few things to see what happens.
I find them to be a nice set of paints, and i do hope that they will expand the colour range for them too down the line also.
Did you catch the 10 tips video as well? i try to expand a bit on from some of the initial ideas from this video, just in case :):)
What will you be painting with them?
@@SwordsandBrushes I treated myself to a 3D printer last month, so it's more a matter of what WON'T I be painting with them :P So far I've already subscribed to Titan Forge, Loot Studios, Witch Song, and a variety of creators on thingiverse :P
I've just started to experiment with the speed paints with Titan Forge's new Dragon Empire release. Many cool air bending/animal form/traditional monks.
Enjoyed your video. Thanks for showing the multiple ways they can be used.
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for watching, i very much appreciate it :):)
I just did a Beholder with these, with all the crazy nooks and crannies these paints made him look incredible.
Thank you for this! This is an excellent overview of the different ways these can be best utilized.
And thank you very much for watching and commenting :) glad that you liked the video. I just wanted to test them a few ways that I could think of that could be useful for people who would come across them for the first time.
Hopefully it could give you some ideas for what you would like to paint! :):)
Can we have a video just on painting the Warriors of the Dead, they looked amazing!
Thank you very much, that is exactly my next video - which I hope to get out for next weekend :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes Excellent, I'm looking forward to it and
I'm really liking your content (and the use of Army Painter) 👍
@@SwordsandBrushes great news! I am waiting for my big box since a couple of months because I intended to use them exactly as you did on the warriors!
Me too! i get excited whilst putting videos together - i wish i started this years ago!
Also thank you, i have such a list that i would like to get through - maybe one day i could do this full time but for now its in between my job.
Awesome news! yes i wanted to start off with these as i thought they just looked cool! After that ive got some Rohan horses to finish before moving onto Rohan itself.
More videos please! Lots of different types of minis would be great - a lot of content providers have focused on ethereal characters, but I'd love to see cowboys from Great Escape Games or maybe some Blood Bowl teams being painted up with Speedpaints.
I will produce more :) I try to do the videos between my normal work and i would absolutely LOVE to do this full time one day - i have dreams so maybe just maybe! :)
Getting some of these soon. Look forward to experimenting with them.
Awesome, they are jolly good fun to paint with, even after painting miniatures for so long it was refreshing to use some different paints which by using different techniques to create some interesting results.
I tend to use them in some way or another on a lot of my projects these days :)
What will be first for you to try them on?
Very useful vid, and easy in the top slot of the (many) videos I've watched as you cover most of the questions raised here and there and also show how it can be used rather than just seeing them as a bad.
One thing I'd liked to have seem a bit more of (given I pain with all the steadiness of someone in a freezer) is how to tidy up if you do mess up, my thinking is hair dryer, varnish, back to print and hope its better for the neighbour colour, but given I zenithal too - maybe just find a way to being more steady might be a better solution :)
Thank you very much the kind words! I’m glad I could make a video that would be useful for people and hopefully be enjoyable/informative to watch.
Yes that would be a good question to answer, maybe a bit more experimenting will be required and understand the range fully.
But I’m excited to get some armies painted up and make some more videos for the channel :):)
Great review on Speedpaint, and the out of box thinking on how to use possible reactivation was brilliant, thank you
Thanks very much! :) I tried to give a fair assessment on them and at least gave a practical use for them. It seems these days that i use them more often than not, one way or another haha :)
Well presented. Thank you, I am sold on the line now
Great and useful video. I can't wait to pick up the paints for myself.
Thank you very much! I try to make them informative but a bit fun as well :)
What are you going to try them out on first?
This is an outstanding video. We need more tools for our hobby. This looks like a good one. Thanks for showing me so many ways to use this paint.
You are welcome :) And thank you for commenting and letting me know that the video was useful to you. I’m looking forward to painting my minis and getting though my backlog a bit quicker! How about you?
Great video. Useful information, righ to the point and no unnecessary bullshit. Thank you. Subbed.
Thank you very much! :):) Well i did have a lot to cover in the video and i didnt want it to be half an hour long haha
The only thing better than your experimentation (which is greatly appreciated) is your encouragement to others to do the same.
aw thank you so much! I find painting to be one of the best parts of the hobby, you can have the same army but it could look totally different depending on how creative people are or how they interpret what they should look like.
And same goes with me, painting miniatures is art at the end of the day, and we all see things differently, so exploring what you can do be either use of colours and or mediums is a positive thing in my eyes, and sometimes its just great to get stuck in and see what happens :):)
I very rarely comment but have to say I've liked and subscribed. the experimentation was very interesting and will take several views for it all to sink in, i bought the starter set when it released and quite like the stuff but this has really got me thinking about new uses? great video, looking forward to watching more
Well thank you very much for taking the time to comment and subscribe :) it’s very much appreciated!
How are you finding the starter set so far? Have you managed to get some miniatures done with them?
I love having a dabble and honestly I had so much fun playing around with these. I’ve not had a chance of experimenting with an airbrush yet, so I will look forward to seeing what they can do! :)
@@SwordsandBrushes to be honest I'm still starting myself, i wanted to learn how to use an airbrush so bought a takom 1.35 chieftain tank and the scale modelling side took over,,,,, i only started buying miniatures to practice on, i now have a Necron army waiting to be finished! i do prefer the speedpaints over the citadel contrast but hadn't really tried exploring their full potential
I love the 'i only started buying minis to practice, and now i have an army to do' thats awesome! I m sure you will get them done in no time! :)
So, this has been a fantastic tool in my toolbox for me. I have issues with painting large groups of models, because with an injury many years ago, i can only paint for so long before my painting hand starts to shake from pain that begins to shoot through my arm. So, this stuff, and contrast paints in general, gives me a quick and dirty tool to paint entire mobs of enemies. But, at the same time, this stuff works really nicely for coloring metallic. bright silver with a speedpaint creates amazing colored metals, and if i want to give large mobs a nicer look, i do zenithal highlights in various layers, starting with a darker gray and working up to white to really bring them out and make them look pretty good without a lot of time for the pain and shaking to kick in. This video has actually given me ideas for new ways to use this paint though, and that is something that is always a sign of a great creator. Thank you so much for this video!
Im sorry to hear about your injury, i'm glad to hear that it hasn't stopped you from doing the hobby altogether and that you can get some time to paint miniatures here and there :)
What are you painting at the moment?
Absolutely, these paints over metallics are wonderful! Have you had a chance to see my second video on Speedpaints (it covers more metallic uses) and then i created a further mini video answering someones question about metallics on my Ko-fi creator page, which may give you some more inspiration for further projects :)
I'm very happy to hear that the video could give you food for thought about using the paints :):)
Right now I'm working on a collection of cyberpunk miniatures from the creator Papsikels over on My mini Factory, which I've been using for a game of Five Parsecs from home. He makes some fantastic sci-fi and cyberpunk models and I love his work. I don't see many creators doing cyberpunk, so it is really something different than a lot of miniatures available.
I haven't seen that video, but will definitely check it out. Can't paint cyberpunk without a lot of metallic after all, and I'm always looking for more inspiration.
Useful and informative video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for watching :):)
Very useful video, I haven’t tried contrast or similar yet but feel like a future project could be a good opportunity to try something new
Thank you very much! My thoughts exactly when i got these, it was nice to experiment and have a play on some miniatures to see what would be capable - and now i use them in one way or another on pretty much everything i paint! :):)
One of the best Videos for Beginners with Speedpaint. Your Voice is clear and non english speaking people can easy understand you. Nice
Thank you so much, i'm glad that i come across that way in the videos 😀 It was all about experimenting with them and seeing what they were all about, did you get a chance to watch the 10 top tips video afterwards? I did a quick fire bunch of tips which i compiled into one video.
Great review - thanks for the in depth comparison!
Thank you very much! Im glad that it came across that way. There was a fair amount to cover! :)
Excellent review. Looking forward to these.
Thank you very much, i tried to fit in as much as i could without it being too long of a video. So far i have had some good results with them and also just having a play on random minis too! :):)
I'm waiting until the full set comes to market to finish off my Return of the (Dark) King LL. Thanks for the video.
Excellent! How much have you got left to do?
These got me painting again after about 30 years+ of not painting. I've been painting the figures from Tiny Epic Dungeon and Tainted Grail. Will probably work my way up to Nemesis if all goes well then look through the rest of my boardgame collection.
I've found if you go over a line or touch another bit of the model by mistake and you're quick, a watery brush will let you almost wash it off or thin it down so far it's easy to paint over. I've been using the greys as a wash (particularly with metal) using water but I must get myself some Speedpaint Medium after watching this. I bought the small starter set and was waiting for the big one you demo'd but by the time it came out I'd bought most of the paints in it separately so there was no point.
oh fantastic! Hope that the painting is going well?
I too have some Boardgame miniatures to paint too - I have the Mansion of Madness from a little while ago and then i just purchased D&D Castle Ravenloft last week so im excited to get some paints on them and play games.
Yes thats a good idea to tidy up those certain areas if you go over them with a watery brush.
Ah yes, i think it will do you well to have the Medium, then you can experiment a bit with the paints and do more with them.
I wish you well after your return to painting miniatures! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes Thanks. I look forward to see what you make of those models. 🙂
Absolutely blast. You take the disadvantage highlighted by others contrast experts like the reactivation characteristic and used it on your advantage. Well done.
Your green death warriors look incredible the way you used 3 colors on same area i am envy you. New subscriber here, hope you can teach us more about them
Thank you very much! And i really appreciate the comment :) Yes it was interesting when i heard others talk about that, but as soon as i started to play around with them, then i was like - this is awesome, as it will open up more avenues for me to paint minis!
Well i dont think you will need to wait long for the Warrior of the Dead video - i would say about 32 minutes or so ;)
@@SwordsandBrushes I am totally noob here but I am with you. We know that paints can reactivate so let's use this characteristic.
Thanks for the new video, I am sure I am going to enjoy watching it.
Thanks for your answer ;)
Dude thanks not only for the review but for painting one figure of each colour.
Not a problem at all! I thought that i would put that in and try to be as helpful as possible :)
And also thank you for watching! :):)
I have been trying AB Speed Paints for the first time and really loving them with zenethal under priming. But then I ran into the purple which just seemed non-translucent and covered the black, grey, white under priming completely without shading variation at all. So I repainted the High Elf mage cloak (lots of folds) all white, and I am going to try it again with water-thinned purple right after watching this video. Fingers crossed. Otherwise I love the speed paints.
Ah yes, the purple is quite unique in that respect i found - it must have a lot of paint pigment in it compared tot eh other s i assume as it comes out like an intense ink!
Hope that it worked out for you when you thinned it down! :):)
Would love to see an exploration of combining shade and SpeedPaint
That could be done for sure, i have a few ideas for a follow up video, So far they have worked well, i have been painting some Warhammer minis and used shades here and there :)
Thanks for this Video, i will paint miniatur Modells in scale 1:43. I bought the paint before i watched your Video, but now i hope to learn more about from your Tips. I will wach more Videos from you now👍
Grettings from Germany😉
Hello Germany! :) Ah fantastic! What miniatures do you have on your paint table?
Thank you very much for watching the video and i hope that the tips will help you on your painting journey :):)
Hey, it's not for tabletop gaming. It's for people decoration for my racetrack like modelltrains. My Hobby is playing "DR!FT". You can it See in my Videos. Have a nice Day 😉👍
Very, very nice review! I was especially intrigued by your turning them into what could be used as additional washes.
Thank you very much! oh yes indeed! Ive done a few other models now and im using them for washes too - the properties are excellent for this and i have also found my new way of doing gold! Which i think i will make a quick follow up video to this one
@@SwordsandBrushes Very interested in that!
9:30 Wet-brushing! Brilliant! I'm just starting out and instead of buying the starter set I bought the mega set for reasons:
It comes with the bottle of medium and I'm an avid board gamer and want to play with painted minis and I get 3D printed stuff for some games like Gloomhaven, Tiny Epic Dungeons, Dune Imperium, Marvel United and Star Wars Imperial Assault!
So I'm gonna need quite a few colors
haha - well i like to try things to see how they could work - and this is a method i think i will use on my Uruk Hai when i eventually get round to them.
Awesome hobby purchase! Yes that Medium will come in use for sure. With that list it looks like you are going to be busy for sure!!
I saw Gloomhaven not long ago and it looks interesting, hopefully the hobby shop will have an open copy that can be played once i move house :):)
Thanks for the video! As a beginner painter using Speedpaint for the very first set of paint, I am struggling with the neatness issues. Definitely have to colour inside the lines with this stuff! I’m sharing my experience in this channel if you are interested. The mini painting noob 😃
Hello!, and thank you very much for watching :) Yes it's a range that will be a bit unforgiving if you are not neat, but i think it will speed up a steady hand more rapidly. I'd suggest to keep going at it, have some fun painting minis - because grey plastic is boring haha
Awesome i shall have a gander when i sit down to paint next, i see you have something called shadows over Camelot, i've not come across that before so i will take a browse at that too! It's always nice making new discoveries :)
Finally someone that explored the possibilities of the reactivation :)
Great review :)
Thank you! Yes i heard comments about it on facebook and i wanted to try them out, and i saw it as a positive with new possibilities for my miniature painting , especially when i did my first full mini - The warrior of the Dead. :):)
The reactivation kills AP Speedpaints for me, as they are even reactivated by brushing on varnish (I dont use spray varnish) days later...
Excellent video! Super informative and well produced. Earned yourself a subscribe!
Thank you very much! And thank you for watching :):)
Those warriors of the dead are sick!
Thank you kindly! After doing these, i have been tempted to get some Undead minis and start a fantasy army too haha
Excellent insight into using speed paints
Glad to see it was helpful :) I did a 10 tips video too which is a quickfire version of what i have learned using them should you want to see more :)
Have you got the set yourself? :)
I complete agree with your assessment that you need to be super neat with your paintbrush while using speedpaints. However they are a definite plus to my paint sets
On the initial basecoats i do tend to have a clean damp brush just in case there is a smidge of over spill - after using them for a few months now, they are very enjoyable paints to use! :)
Excellent, excellent, excellent!!! Another saved video in my library!!! Thanks a bunch Chris! - Tom
haha just save all of them (i joke of course) but i'm glad to see that you are finding some value from the videos so far :)
@@SwordsandBrushes Well... I just might. I plan on watching all of your videos next week. I'm just getting back into hobbying at the young age of 59... AND...starting new hobbies. If you get a chance, check my channel out. Thanks again for what you do Chris!!!!! - Tom
haha you are too kind! Well i wish you the very best of luck and i hope that you will have lots of fun in the hobby!
I certainly shall do, it's always nice to see what others are up to! :)
Amazing video. Thanks a lot. Now, it would be an interesting idea to test it with oil paint
Thank you very much and im glad that you liked it :) Thats a good test! Ive i have only used oil paints for simple things like grime and streaks, would be interesting to see!
Lovely video. I like the part where you try and work with or around the reactivation.
Thank you, I think with anything new you just have to play and test things out to see what works and what may not. I used to paint water colours when. I was much younger so I was used to something like this.
But overall, I think this range will fit nicely into my existing paint range and I’m looking forward to creating armies even quicker now!
The chipping technique very creative use
Thank you very much! It was a fun experiment, and I’m going to get through a lot of Uruk Hai miniatures for my future army!
I used my thumb to rub the edges i wanted to remove some paint from, to further push highlights by using the undercoat.
Great idea and a very useful quick technique :)
So grateful for this tutorial, it really gave me some amazing tips and tricks I can try with my speed paints. The warriors of the dead look fantastic!!
Thank you kindly for watching! Glad that it could give you food for thought about using them. I did a quickfire 'Top Tips' video which may give you some more ideas.
What will you be using them on? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes Thanks I did watch that video it was awesome! I've got a TON of unpainted Reaper Bones minis, and I'd like to get some of them painted finally. Hoping this will help!
Oh Fantastic!, I wish you well with your Reaper Miniatures :):)
Useful video thanks
Thank you kindly! :):)
Have been painting loads of battletech's new plastic mechs, metallic base coat and speedpaint over the top is perfection. The accuracy control speed paint encourages has upped my game, and I am now putting 3+ metallics and 3+ speedpaints per mini, making diverse and vibrant paint schemes for these mechs.
Fantastic, you know what - in the last couple of weeks i have heard 'Battletech' a number of times, it's something that i know little about - but please do let me know what you think of it - i like to expand my hobby knowledge! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes th-cam.com/video/PAGY4UMScyU/w-d-xo.html - the intro to the battletech videogame gives a good at a glance timeline to establish the premise of the game/universe. Mankind discovered how to jump to other systems with a 'jump drive', and soon began to colonize. Eventually, Earth based forces became an empire and began to dominate the outlying systems, forming the Terran Hegemony. From there, they formed a military force called the Star League, given the best technology, equipment, personnel, and training in order to keep the sometimes oppressive peace. Science and human efforts at colonization of the stars advanced rapidly, but eventually an insurrection occurred, called the Amaris coup. The Terran Hegemony was almost ripped apart, and the leader of the Star League, Alexander Kerensky, rallied those under him to take as much of the devastating high tech military equipment as they could gather and head to the galactic north, in a bid to deny the resources for war. However, without the Star League, the Terran Hegemony collapsed, and remaining sectors came under total rulership of various great houses of influential families. Succession wars were waged to take the throne of Terra, but non succeeded, and the great houses wore down their economies and militaries in recurring catastrophic wars until they nearly bled themselves of all of their means with which to fight. That is the age that Battletech is largely set in, the year 3025, just before the fourth succession war. Later, a group called the clans invades in 3050, coming from the same place the Star League sailed off into, the far Galactic North, forcing the 'Inner Sphere' composed of the 5 great houses to band together to repel the invaders, who are armed with superior technology and genetically modified soldiers. Further on, a civil war occurs between the two most cooperative/allied houses, resulting in more devastation, then a holy war, then a dark age, which lead to a republic dominating the inner sphere. Finally, the remnants of the clans pushed forward and took Terra in 3137.
It's got a lot of timelines to play in, a lot of tech levels to use (or not use), and a lot of make-do grittiness with a game of thrones-esque political backdrop.
Much of the narrative and almost all of the tabletop game are focused on the exploits of 'Mech Warriors', pilots of giant walking robots loaded with guns, armor, and equipment, like a high tech knight.
Dude, what a good job of showing us. One earned sub here.
Thank you kindly, i very much appreciate it :) Yes there was a lot to cover, and i have already discovered a couple more things in the last 2 days haha
These paints definitely come into their own when used over a zenethal highlight added with a spray gun or a dry brush I feel.
Absolutely! I think that it will get a lot of plain plastic miniatures out there painted as people try them out :):)
What an incredibly useful video, thank you
Glad it was helpful! :):)
Excellent video!
You could apply lighter-than-desired highlights to the non-metallic areas before applying the speedpaintwashcontrastglaze; this will facilitate a smoother transition of color.
A few months ago bought the same box you have shown, but have yet to take the shrink wrap off! X)
Thank you kindly :) Oh totally yes, i've just both a make up brush and airbrush for the initial areas before using the speedpaints to get some nice looks in the last few months.
Oh no how come you have not used them yet? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes Extensive, prolonged home reno. X) Once complete, plans are to finish 11th-12th C. Crusaders in 28mm and start my 54mm Austrian Napoleonic army (pre 1810). Both to be done with APSP. Afterwards, 54mm French and Anglo-Allies will continue; then either Late Medieval or "Generic Moslems" in 28mm (those may be the army of Omar the Great dressed, for the first - and only time - uniformly, in white kaftan and turban).
if your gonna do a side by side comparison such as at 5:45 it would help if you said/showed which was which, i was very confused as to which was which until i realized the one on the right had a base design so it was probably the original/non speed paint mini
Noted! thank you for letting me know, i can definitely do that next time to make it as clear as possible for the videos i produce :):)
Great results mate!
Thank you! It was certainly fun trying them out! :)
One thing to note with these you might have noticed while watching is that adding a second or even a third layer of these paints can give you some really nice looking results you would normally not achieve using just speedpaints/contrats/xpress paints. For a less skilled painter you can make your minis look a level above your standard with just adding one more layer.
Absolutely! Totally agree with you with the extra layers - thank you for sharing with the community :)
Have you done anything nice with that very method? :)
Great analysis! Subbed. :D
I would be curious to see how they react when applying oil or enamel washes.
Thats a good one, i may have to try that and see - i do have some Star Wars Legion that need painting at some point so could try it on them!
Subbed. It was cool to see someone using the worst part of the speed paint in their advantage to get some nice scratched metal effect
Thank you very much and thank you for the comment too :) Oh yes as soon as i knew it could happen, it opened some doors for me and i knew i could make it work to my advantage :):)
When you use the brush and water to remove the paint... mind blown! Brilliant idea and may have swayed me from disliking army painter to maybe picking up a couple for that effect when I don't have time for oils to dry!
Well sometimes thinking outside of the box proves fruitful haha, i have a WHOLE bunch of Uruk Hai sitting in a tupperware ready to be painted up with this technique now.
Now oils i have only done for streaks and weathering - never had the time to try them out for mini painting as a whole.
Have you done much in terms of Oil miniature painting?
@@SwordsandBrushes yeah I've used them for blending, they're amazing. Slap two colours down, wipe off your brush and then you just smudge them together and you get a perfect blend very quickly. Very much worth expanding from using them as washes.
Good luck with your uruk hai, they'll look great as a unified force!
Oh wow! Those Warriors of the Army of the Dead look excellent! Maybe I'm going to get some of those Speed Paints as soon as I paint mine :)
Thank you so much, the paints are fun to use, I think you can do a lot with them. But definitely just have a play with them - it’s good to just jump right in and paint some minis :):)
Yeah, unfortunately I'm more the guy who overthinks than just give something a try. But I'll try to give trying a try :D
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thank you muchly!!! Hope it helped somewhat! :):)
When I first heard about the reactivation I knew it was going to be a feature, not a defect. Scale modellers use reactivating paints with great results.
Yes i was thinking something similar, there was a lot of gossip online about it and it intrigued me. What do you think you would use them for?
So the paint reactivates, but if we can get a good grasp on how/why, it’s a feature, not a bug.
From what i have painted in the last couple of weeks it does reactivate if you paint over it pretty much straight away with another colour, otherwise you can force it to by really watering down the paint or brushing over the same area a few times over - and i have come to find some really good uses for this so far. :):)
Well said!
Great video. The flexibility of these looks great. The reactivation issue is something Army Painter addressed in a tutorial video. They do recommend varnishing between coats if you want to do multiple layers.
Thank you very much, yes a little varnish between layers shall help those that want to work with layers that way :)
But what actually happens if you just layer up as normal? Sure, the speedpaint might bleed through but is that really an issue if you are just layering progressively lighter shades of the same colour? Or is the problem it reactivates in patches? I.e. not uniform. Curious to know. I haven’t seen a video yet of someone just painting as normal just to see what happens.
@@andybillco2424 ah then if you check out the warrior of the dead video I go through just exactly that :)
I layer the paints from light to dark (on the cloth) as well as dark to light (the sword) :)
Hope that helps with your question :)
@@SwordsandBrushes yes, I saw that. Good test. However I meant layering with other normal acrylic paints. Not subsequent layers of speedpaint. I.e. speedpaint blood red > evil sunz scarlet > wild rider red (to use citadel as an example).
@@andybillco2424 oh apologies I see what you mean, you certainly can. I used some speed paints effectively as a “base” hair dried them and had a go at layering, highlighting, using washes and dry brushing over them. I didn’t have a problem with them so far :)
I worked on a few beastman miniatures recently ( such as a giant, cygor and Ghorgon). I will put a photo up of them on my Ko-if creator page.
Like in the warrior of the dead video, if you force the paint (e.g keep painting the same area over and over then you will get them to reactive) like I did the the shield trim on the warrior.
But it’s certainly worth having a play :)
Excellent video. Instant sub.
Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and then pop a comment in here too, glad you enjoyed it! :):)
Awesome, Warriors of the Dead looks so nice.... maybe step-by-step tutorial? 😉
Thank you very much, they were a treat to do!
Erm maybe wait for around... 3 days time and the oath will be fulfilled!
I bought the starter set couple of weeks ago, to just have a play with them on some 15mm Scifi and Dark age figures. Ahem... still not got round to it. But they do look to me as another good range to have in the old paint arsenal.
haha maybe one day soon they will have their time on your painting desk :) It's also quite interesting hearing what people paint too, just this last couple of days i have discovered some game systems/miniatures that i have not come across before :)
@@SwordsandBrushes Oh there are many, I been in the hobby for forty years roughly. Ground Zero Games and Alternative Miniatures plus many others. Very nice stuff, not enough money or time in the world to paint.
I had the worst time getting even coats with the darker blues. All the other colors stay very consistent, but if you don’t have the perfect amount of the darker blue on your brush it’s either overly dark (couldn’t see any detail) or way to light (very light coat just looked like a light blue base coat).
Thank you for the heads up and letting the community know, i will give them a try on something that is a bit flatter - maybe i will dig out a test mini and see how it goes.
I would believe that the medium will help with that but i shall give it a test and see what happens :)
The Dead minis are the best I’ve ever seen! 😱
Thank you very much, I painted 20 relatively quickly by my standards and now I want an army of them haha
But also, the next video which is on how to paint these guys is going up later today :)
Very nice video!
Thank you very much! :):)
awesome help this. THANK YOU.
Glad it helped! Are you just about to get into them or do you have a set of these already? :)
@@SwordsandBrushesi have a set, and i am very happy with it. I got the fire back and i am painting almost every day again. Love it.
Amazing video!
Thank you very kindly! I'm glad that you liked it :) I hope that it will be of some use to you!
I wonder if you can use this reactivation property to make wet blending easier as you'd have more time between colors. Something to try out when I get the set.
Could be an interesting one to try out for sure! If you do then please do let me know how you get on! :)
@@SwordsandBrushes I'm in some pretty intense college classes at the moment so I sadly won't really have time to test it until maybe next month. But it will be one of the first things to try
Have you considered trying them with a wet pallet? I have heard mixed reviews of people saying they transfered onto and dyed the sponge underneath and those that haven't had any issues at all.
no i haven't tried them on a wet palette, but i could certainly think that it would do that as it is very liquidy. I tend to use a simple plastic artist palette for it - a bit of the medium in there too and it stays perfect for more than enough time when using it :)
I bought the mini set, big one isn't available yet, and did my first 2 minis as a full begginer with black primer and white zenithal. Happy with the result but they were pretty dark, I was missing some colors and the zealot yellow was like a red weird color that didn't had almost effect, but I know from now that I will prime only in white.
The rest of the set are not available here yet, but what colors are your favorites? and what metallics outside the speed paints would you recommend to complement this speed paints? for blades, armours, guns, etc... (silver, gold, bronze whathever needed). And thx for the video!
Some very good questions there! Where are you from, i think the release date is soon for these (end of the month i think)
It's nice having so much choice as a beginner and not only by brands but then also by the style of paints - it could get a bit overwhelming!
My favourite colours at the moment are Malignant Green ( as i have used it for my Undead and Goblins so far) Dark wood is also excellent, as i wanted a dark brown in the range and i adore the reds. They are so vibrant and punchy!
but im sure as i paint more i will find more uses for all of them :)
I have found that just Gun Metal is great for a basecoat for these (as seen on the Minas Tirith warrior section of the video)
It would be interesting to see it on a copper colour - i have not tried that yet.
But i did do a test model today with a Gold basecoat, i think that has some potential - if you are after a sci fi looking armour feel.
Perhaps something chaotic/undead in Fantasy would be quite beneficial.
But i think for my hobby, i have just scratched the surface of what these can do and the output i could potentially have.
Im sure i will follow up with more videos using these paints.
What are you going to try them on next?
This was very useful thanks man!! And I love that it was one LOTR characters
Thank you kindly! :) well Middle Earth is about 90% of my hobby at the moment. And I want to build up a fair collection. But as many hobbyists I have plans for so much, like start wars legion, a few Fantasy Flight board games, Warhammer Fantasy and I may finally dabble back into 40K after being lost in the warp for many years haha
Oh that’s awesome! A lot of players are leaving 40k for battle tech! You should come there and join us in our big stompy robots 😁
oh no is there something wrong with 40K or is this other system
just pretty cool?
@@SwordsandBrushes apparently from what I understand games workshop has been going after fan created IP and shutting it down. So a lot of the fans are upset with them, I never played 40k, but I have been in battle tech. Played mechwarrior as a boy and fell in love with hit stompy robots. Come to find out it’s a table top game and that’s how I got into painting minis! I’ll tag you in a video!
@@timstinies9519 oh yes I recall hearing something about that a while back, was it something to do with animated stories? I never got a chance to play much back in the day, but I loved the range of minis for 40k, Dark Eldar were my favourite just because - evil space elves! haha
Yes please do tag away, I'm always happy to see more about the hobby!
great explanation
Thank you! It was interesting to put together as I had so many notes due to testing them out and experimenting. But it was certainly fun trying out a new approach of painting for myself!
would shade paint be a good thing to use on white cloaks? i had no idea how difficult white cloaks would be to paint when i picked my first army and color scheme.
Be careful with shade paints, they can come out a bit rough on white cloaks - if you mix it with some medium to thin it down, it will also apply on the surface smoother. Create a layer, let it fully dry and then go in again for your darker areas if necessary and you should be grand :):)
this is BY FAR the best review of the speed paints ever done. NOT a single youtuber has done what you did. Actually, your way of using the speed paints is how i am using them, and its amazing!! congrats for such amazing video!
Awesome, thank you so much for the lovely comment! Well after getting them and having a play, i just found there was quite a number of uses for them and i wanted to share that. As my preconception was that its just a "chuck it on the mini and thats all you need" kind of paint.
But soon after i discovered that its much more! Having a play on some other minis this week, i think i will have to do a follow up video on this. :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes yeah exactly! that's the thing, the fact that they reactivate is nuts, wet blending is crazy fu to do with them! For instance, ive painted some dwarves (beards and hair) using them while still being wet, and the results are amazing honestly, some dry brush on top, and no one could ever guess that I used speed paints O_O. Was I said, its interesting to see that all the videos about them are super basic (eve squidmars video o them), "speed paints are meat to be used to paint fast",,, how wrong that is!!, the most fun ive had painting minis so far haas bee with the speed paints haha. Good work maN!
Thats awesome news, id love to see them! I think when i eventually get round to some wargs i would love to test out a few things on them. But glad that you are having fun using them, sometimes its just a new product that can reenergise a hobby and maybe this will do for some people out there, less grey plastic and more painted minis i say! haha
"...which means I won't be able to play with these minis in the bath." *Throws mini down to the table.*
Subscribed. Great video, friend sent this to me for another take on the new speedpaints.
haha that was my favourite line, i try to add a bit of my personality into the videos :):) Hope the rest of the video was informative though!
@@SwordsandBrushes Absolutely! That was just the line that clinched the sub. Looking forward to watching your others (& new ones)!
@@SwordsandBrushes Also - You’re the only person to date that I’ve seen cover the reactivation effect; one of the most useful pieces of information for me personally, and not something I’d have expected. Cheers!
Well i'm happy to help! It was something that i discovered early on and played around with it and i loved it! For me personally i was stuck in the ways of basecoat, wash, layer and highlight - and i will do this when i feel it needs it, but also use the speedpaints in my day to day painting too - but either way i just really enjoy painting minis :):)
quality editing, fun vibes, great channel you got here, got a sub from me
oh thats amazing thank you so much, i'm still new to youtube (November is when i started) and still learning but i will get there, and i like to put a bit of my humour/personality and passion for the hobby in the content too :):)
There seems to be a difference between touch dry and fully dry. Looking forward to getting my set and having a play
Yes from playing around with the paints I think coming back to it a day after seems to be fully dry - I should have mentioned in the video but from what I have seen on all my miniatures so far is that they dry in a nice matte finish - and I really like this :)
I do tend to touch the model as I paint (just the way I do it! Haha) and I think if you can try and not do this it will help.
But certainly it’s a new range, and they seem quite exciting to use. What do you think you will try them out on first? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes maybe some eldar. That's what is on my painting table at the moment.
oh yes, i have seen all the posts about the new pretty minis for the range - its been a long time coming but they look awesome!
great video
Thank you very much, hopefully you got some good info from it? :) I've got a quickfire 10 tips video that i did a while after this one which I compiled together after using them more:)
a bit off-topic, but I'd like to hear your view of army painter quickshade varnish. Do you have a video on that already?
That is actually a video on my near term 'to do' list, i have a couple tins of them and i will put them through their paces on an upcoming video :):)
hi, one question, what colour you used in min, 11.03? thanks
That would be Malignant Green for the cloak, there is a full tutorial for that Warrior of the Dead on the channel, if you would like to see the Speed Paints in action :)
Does matt or gloss varnish stop the paint reactivating / coming off?
I’ve tried a spray on Matt varnish and it seems to be fine, I haven’t got a gloss spray on varnish so I can not say if that would be ok, but I couldn’t see why not.
Another thing that would be good to test is spraying a varnish through an airbrush to see how that would work out! :) maybe when I come back to this I can show that too :)
Okay, which one is which? And is the other one only made with acrylics? Thanks!
If it is the Goblin that you are referring to, then the original Goblin is the one fully completed with the rocky base painted (the right one) and yes it was done fully with the acrylic paint range :):)
I do have a question- been struggling to do face skin on my lotr Rohan models with these paints, are there any tips?
I honestly don't think the skin tone is the best, i hope that when they do expand the range then it will have a better colour to use -
You could just paint the skin using a normal colour from the range such as Kobold Skin or tanned flesh and then apply the crusader skin as a thin "wash" that would work ok - it would just be a different way of using the speedpaints :)
I will experiment a bit from January as Rohan will be my main army next year that i will work on :)
the details is the one thing I'm worried about with these. Im trying to do a lot of research before buying them. Im still new to painting minis. But Im really into the details when I do.
It's good to research these things, is there a hobby store near you that may have these at hand to try them out at all?
With the details you just need to be careful when applying these as they will show the layer underneath if it does go on an area that you do not wish too - you can use a damp brush to "clean" this area up and then continue.
I find that these are great for adding the paint onto layers - and if you want to highlight something further than you can - i think these make a great basecoat and wash/shade in one application :)
which Speed Paint do you recommend to use for painting good plate armour (for good guys) using the silver undercoat as per usual for metals?
Good question, I would probably stick to just normal shade paints (such as dark tone) and highlights (shining silver) from that point on and leave out speed paints.
If i was to add any extra elements such as sword handles or armour details then i would pick them our with normal brass or gold paints - as the speed paints would be a bit harder to control for tiny areas like these.
However if you wanted a slight tint to an armour then you could really thin down some speed paints to mimic a shiny reflective surface.
For example if you had a red cape, you could thin down a tiny it of Red and apply it on the armour near the cloth - just to show the reflection of it.
Hope that helps a bit? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes - I gave mine a go with a chainmail base and an AP Gravelord Grey speed paint and it turned out quite well I felt (highlights with silver). Maybe not to dissimilar to using a dark wash over the base.
oh excellent thats great to hear! If you did any non metallic metals then Grim Black, Gravelord Grey and Holy White would be a useful combo. I did something like that on my warrior of the dead weapons - but i don't have the patience to do it over a whole miniature haha
I've been using and testing speedpaint for about 3 months now started out practicing on about 300 plastic toy soldiers to learn what I could get away with doing with the paint and I 100% guarantee you it is not for beginners and for somebody experience it's a hard learning curve to paint an entire figure with it took me 12 days to do one miniature that actually had detail
Awesome, it's good to get through a lot - reduces the backlog a bit :)
Yes i agree, it's an unforgiving paint for a beginner who has done little to no painting before as you have to be precise when applying it.
Most of my painting (before speed paints) was to just pop on the basecoats and not worry about getting paint onto another section as i would paint over that part anyway. So this was quite different and made me steady my hand a bit more! :)
i have a question, with the reactivation, could they be used in a similar way as an oil wash, cover it then wipe off with a makeup sponge?
Yes, but I found you need to vanish the base layer or it can remove both layers.
Good question! From what i have painted with them i would say you certainly have more time and control by using oil washes, and i would still use them for that intention.
The Speed paints i would say have a limited time for full control if you were to cover everything then wipe it off, i did some horses recently and it worked well that way - but if left on (say the next day) then you can take some of it off - but it will still leave a glazed looking stain - which is ok for things like tanks perhaps?
I think they are perfect if you want to make a grime/ streak look - i have does this and it works great for that.
But i still think an oil wash is top trumps for anything more :)
I hope that helps a bit, and you get to experiment with them to create something awesome for your miniatures :)
And also i agree with Wulfseal too! :):)
Subscribed, you had at those warrior of the dead!
Oh thank you so much! The warrior is going to be the next video, ideally I wanted to start working on it yesterday - but I tried to upgrade my Apple OS and then my computer said no and it died :(
lmao how convenient of Army Painter to include a "feature" like having paints that don't cure permanently.
So clever of them to not advertise this feature so that they can wait around for someone to make it up for them.
I wouldn't say that they dont cure permanently, i have been painting a Giant for Age of Sigmar and used the speedpaints as a base colours and applying the normal paint range (including shades) on top of them and they seem to be fine and dandy, that was without a varnish.
I did leave a few days between them as i started the giants, then put them on hold to make this video before going back to them.
So perhaps there is a certain amount of time before they fully dry and they are good to paint on :) But it's still early days, and im sure people will have their own style or how they use paints in general.
For me im happy to have new colours, and it looks pretty on my desk with all the paints i have now haha