Volkswagen ID 3 v Nissan Leaf review | which is the best new EV? | Autocar
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- The 2020 Volkswagen ID 3 is VW’s bespoke new battery electric vehicle. And although it’s not the first EV on the market - it’s not even VW’s first EV - it still feels like a significant car.
Here we pitch it against its key competitor, which is also a landmark car in its own right and is still the world’s most successful EV, the 2020 Nissan Leaf.
In terms of range, battery size, 0-60mph time and top speed these two are pitched extremely close to each other. So join our testers as they review the pair and deduce which is best.
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Owning a 2019 Nissan LEAF e+ Tekna myself, I think Nissan knows exactly what everyday driving means. The "many" buttons make it far more easier to adjust whatever you want without looking at a touchscreen, navigating throughout many menu's. So, you can keep your eyes on the road and drive 😉
Its good
To be fair if manufacturer would be smart their Home Screen would be tailored based on what users use more often while keeping essentials on Home Screen.
basic climate controls can easily be on home screen as well other options. Having customizable home screen is key. You could even make it smart so when temp is below 0c you would have option to turn Steering wheel heating on from home screen and stuff like that . . .
What I'm saying is Nissan Leaf should have option for bigger tablet where you don't have climate controls ;) that would be neat option where they would integrate climate controls to the tablet while also giving bigger and better tablet to have options ... make the home screen customizable where you can hold some function and it would ask "add this to home screen?" and pressing yes it would add it :D
you could have cruise control options or even profiled and the best option home screen saved driver seating options >:) press a button and both the driver's seat as well wheel adjust themselfs to your settings and when your wife/husband drives they can click their options :D
Hey, I'm just saying these are posibilities which I don't think many if any are giving us ;)
yeah it would make a good rental car. i hate renting a newish car and having that dumb screen. i just go with whatever the settings are because there is no way i can adjust stuff on a screen mid-drive. and it's too complex to learn before you set off.
@@henrikpersson4698 They need easy settings like in games 😂 "Sport / Family / Warm / Cold / Custom" For example haha ....
I love the buttons on our family’s Nissan Leaf.
The throttle response and acceleration of the Leaf is great, you just have to disable the Eco mode and e-pedal.
The sluggishness on the LEAF is because you have the ECO on. Turn off ECO and the response will be much faster.
I'm glad someone else noticed that. The car had to be in ECO mode which intentionally adds hysteresis or slight delay to the accelerator pedal. A lot of drivers experienced only with gasoline vehicles find ECO more predictable and more in line with what they're used to but EV drivers would rather feel the incredible torque. When not in ECO mode the Leaf's accelerator pedal becomes very touchy and some would say, aggressive. The car will surge like a rocket. This makes NORMAL mode extremely noticeable so it makes me wonder how he could not have noticed this.
A bit weak presentation ,calling it an engine
"You can charge it at 100 Kilowatt Hours"... What an expert
Come on, modern electric cars have been out on the market for only about a dozen years, give them some time to adapt and learn. 😉🤪
You know perfectly well what he meant
@@djlondon7956 Yes, but we know the difference between kW and kWh. EV reviewers should choose their words carefully as many people that watch videos like this are uninformed. It's also disingenuous to compare the battery and charging systems on both the ID.3 and Leaf as if they were equal. Although in theory, the Leaf can take 100kW on a Chademo DC charger, you will be lucky to find them anywhere even here in Norway where we have more Leaf's around than you can shake a stick at - so the best you can assume is 50kW charging. And then there's the rapid-gate issue (the lack of active battery cooling) with the Leaf which is an issue for long distance travelling, exacerbating the lack of 100kw Chademo charging availability. Honestly, there is little equality in terms of technical ability in these cars. And it's why Nissan will release a new car shortly with CCS and phase out the old tech Leaf. AFAIK, Chademo is a dying standard and will become more difficult to find outside of Japan.
@swansea007791 oh what a surprise, a clueless troll on a TH-cam comment section.
The Leaf is a very good car, especially if you're buying one on the used market.
I have to add, a few things you guys didnt mention, which i think are pretty important. The Id3 if taken with the matrix leds has some seriously good light power, secondly the id3 can charge 100 or at 125kwh, and as the bms is good, itll still give you around 22kwh at 90%. The leaf on the other hand has an air cooled battery (liquid cooled on id3). On longer trips especially on the motorway this becomes a problem with the leaf, as its bmw will limit charging power quite alot. Also at home with a wall charger, the leaf will only charge at 6.6kw and the id3 at 11kwh. Also you didnt mention anything about the small turning circle of the id3.
I like the ID 3 but living in Canada no way I want a rear wheel drive on a icy road
I think Wolksvagen are making all-wheel drive ID3’s now
I may be wrong though
@@haraldurbjornsson3598 I think they're making 4wd ID4's - the ID3 doesn't have room for a front motor.
I can't get over how much younger Robert Llewellyn looks behind the wheel of that ID3
After 8 years of electric cars on the road newcomers as the id3 should not come with an expensive 1st edition. Too late. Its not that special anymore. Just bring the cheapest version from the start. We want that one.
There are over 50 buttons in the Leaf.... and still no mute button 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Matt, ignore the moaners. You are a brilliant tester.
The throttle response on the leaf is probably just because you have the ECO button pressed, when it's not pressed the throttle response is instant!
Eco , brake mode and the e-pedal , all of them make the car slower. Deactivate that and it will be a rocket
@@victord8013 I've found I also get better range with them all OFF to, on the new leaf.
@@glideman Yes this is so obvious. It is the first thing one disables.... The Leaf is plenty snappy.
@@victord8013 how so, you get a better range with less regeneration and more rapid drain on the battery, when speeding up? I'm curious. Have you really thoroughly tested this, on the same road at the same distance, to check?
Hah I love that Matt prior acknowledged the negative comments! Always found him matter of fact and surprisingly enjoyable to watch!
Why’s he ‘surprisingly enjoyable’? 😉
@@Rascularvideos nice anecdotes and occasional jokes
He knew what was to come
I always enjoy Matt. Not every car review needs to have shouting, screaming and explosions.
I find this a strange comparison. The Nissan Leaf seems to have fallen out of times. With a battery that lacks any thermal management, an AC charger that is single-phase only and a DC charger that is both slow and uses an outdated plug, the car does not qualify for many use cases. It is basically a short range city car. But then, why is it so expensive and why does it come with a large battery? The VW, on the other hand, qualifies for both city and long range. It is actually a (small) all purpose family car.
But they are competitors in the same market so a perfect comparison.
The leaf's DC charger is actually much more advanced yes it has a slightly slower charging rate but it's the only design that allows the car to put power back onto the grid. I like the exterior of the id.3 better but the build quality of the leaf is miles better than the VW.
@@davidmatthews3093 true, but the current Leaf is a refresh of what’s now an almost 10 year old platform. The VW is on a brand new platform. In EV terms the Leaf is from different era completely. Likely it will be ditched completely or priced down soon.
How can these auto journalists not even mention the lack of active battery management in the leaf and I still don't know if the id3 has ABM. Is the leaf still using chademo? When CCS is becoming the standard. I am a leaf owner FYI and would probably choose the leaf over the ID3 but come on active battery management.
@Olivier Wright Thats because they are unaware of the sustainability argument for preserving cell integrity. Ultimately it will cost them more in the long term. Either way ABM should be standard on all EVs.
You don’t have to use the touchscreen to turn off the steering assist, there’s a button on the steering wheel
Are you referring to Lane keep assist on the ID3? Which button disables it on the steering wheel?
@@rory_h on the left spoke, the bottom right button with a picture of a car between lane markings overlaid with a speedo. Do you drive an ID.3?
@@vladx2 I may have an ID.3 soon ;-) I believe that the button you are referring to is the Travel Assist button. I understood this is different to the lane departure assist control.
@@rory_h congratulations! I’m not sure about Travel Assist to be honest, I just test drove a 1st edition ID.3 5 months ago for about 1 hour. I recall that button turned lane assist on and off but it might control other assists at the same time. Or I might be totally wrong too :)
Nice "match": like both ID.3 and Leaf. I was looking for this comparative review!
Great review! I´m now on my second Leaf, switching to the ID.3 any day now (I hope!), so I can recognize how you describe the cars. I have been really satisfied with the Leaf, and if you don’t plan on road trips they are great. BUT: The lack of battery cooling means there is a limit to long trips; after 3 rapid charging sessions my Leaf battery (30 KWH version) is in the red and can take no more, while the ID.3 will let you go on and on. Also, new chargers are being established without Chademo support, and the ones that support Chademo will generally only give you 50Kw, compared to 100Kw for the ID.3.
Now these are things I wished reviewers can share. I had no idea you cannot fast charge a Leaf all the time.
@@boy638 yep he's right. The older leafs have passive cooling which basically means no cooling of the batteries. When you fast charge it cooks the battery which damages it. More advanced charging cars have active cooling of the battery with fans, liquid and whatever which keeps the batteries cool enough that fast charging can keep occuring over and over again without damage (major damage) to your battery.
Note: you will always damage your battery. Infact you damage your battery just by doing absolutely nothing. So don't be alarmed. It's normal. It's just the hotter it gets, the faster the battery is damaged.
I'm a Tesla owner for about 3 years and 140,000km of driving later has given me a decent amount of experience with electric cars and if you're in the market for an EV, don't buy the leaf. It has an old plug which is outdated now which means it charges slower and the whole no cooling of the battery. Every new ev as far as I know has active cooling as that is a basic requisite of an EV imo.
@goodfella21f There are some benefits on the ID.3 compared to TM3: Less cabin noise, higher seating position, very good driver assistant systems compared to a non-finished self driving feature, better headlights, head up display and a more functional hatchback design compared to the sedan shaped Tesla. Yes, Tesla is better on other parts, but these where the important ones for me. Also, the ID.3 has a more environmentally friendly production, and as a European I do like to buy a European brand instead of something from Trumpland. The latter is highly irrational, I know, but in the end the choice of car more often than not is based upon emotion and the need to signal who you are, more than cold analytics.
@goodfella21f Yeah, that was the alternative. But the allure of being one of the first to drive this new initiative from VW got the better of me-:) Also, I needed a car with longer range now, not in a year. But it’s only a three year lease, so by then the TMY with FSD will be even better I guess.
Is the Leaf in Eco? Lol
This is more of a driving impression review, less applicable to potential buyers.
Didn't compare rear seat comfort, practicality, charging network consideration etc.
You criticise the ID3’s touchscreen controls but then say ergonomics and usability are fine?
When using the regen braking…will the brakes lights come on when you slow down or are there going to be loads of accidents waiting to happen when all electric cars slow down without using the brake lights
yes, an accelerometer determines the deceleration rate and turns on the brake lights
Very true. I wonder what Carlos did? Will he ever face trial?
Matt Prior I genuinely think you are one of the best reviewers out there.
Bluddy hell the guy in the leaf can waffle on!!!! I've owned a BMW i3 and a nissan leaf and half the stuff he says is just waffle. For me the leaf does now feel old fashioned... That's because it now is.. it's the same car underneath as the one that came out in 2011. BOTH the electric cars I've owned however are not sluggish to respond to accelerator and if you aren't happy with the throttle response play with the eco settings. I've never had a problem with them and tbh they are far far more responsive than the numerous ICE cars I've driven.
One important thing you did not mentionned in the Leaf's case is premature battery degradation because Nissan did not include basic battery liquid cooling.
On the other hand, the Id3 is a rear wheel drive, which can be a real problem in the snow... How does it handle winter driving?
AE previously compared the Leaf to the eNiro, the eNiro won, so why isn't AE comparing against that?
I think Nissan got a head start on EVs. VW is a newcomer to the market, and although I hope they introduce many more people to electric cars, we'll stick with our LEAF.
These are the cars that make for a less exciting video and yet are much more realistic and useful to the average buyer.
I had a Kia Ceed hire car in poland and the lane keep assist annoyed the crap out of me - but you could turn it off with the single press of one button.....
Matt , you are a excellent car reviewer.
Only thing you need to improve is your wardrobe.
What’s the price of a model 3 in the UK? At $37,000 for the standard range model 3 a ID3 around that price makes no sense.
£40000 after the government grant for the SR+
@@adrianpike4649 ah is the ID3 cheaper after government grant?
VW ID.3 prices start at £30000 (after government grant) for the ID.3 Life, £34180 for the ID.3 Style, and £38220 for the ID.3 Max
I don't agree with your assessment of travel assist (I tested on the ID.3 1st Max). I found it to be one of the better systems, keeping you good in you lane in combination with the intelligent ACC that adapts to road signs, tight turns, etc). Although when speed limit goes to higher speed it could start accelerating earlier (instead of waiting to have passed the sign)
Also you have 2 buttons on the steering wheel: one that only activates ACC and one that actovates travel assist (acc + lka)
(Haven't tested any traditional lane departure assistant on it)
Disappointed that the cooling of batteries isn't discussed as it should affect the choice.
Why is the Leaf on here? When did it become new again?
Nah... it should but it didn't get renewed
I'll just wait for the ID3 or Tesla Model 3 to drop in price. If you can afford any of them brand new, great.
But it's more financially smart to buy them after the initial depreciation hit (1-2 years).
Meanwhile, maybe a 2018 Leaf (under 20k) is a great starting point if you want an EV.
Good point but one thing about the Model 3 especially in the USA. They barely loose value so it's nearly always better to buy a new Model 3.
@@tylersanders6703 Same around here! Right now it's really not worth buying a used Model 3. They're listed for almost as much as brand new (I wonder if any of them are selling), despite government grants of over 6k in some countries. Either buy new or wait until supply exceeds demand.
Our lives needn't be so confined into waiting and waiting for what's new and what's better. The 🌍🔥 isn't waiting.
For the vast, vast majority of people who never buy new, it's still difficult to find EVs for under 8k, and this is coming from someone who thought 5k for a new second hand car was rich! My '07 Prius has over 200,000mi and no sign of dying soon.
But honestly, what determined how many second hand EVs are there to buy now was totally dependent on how many early adopting EV owners there were back in 2010-15. The last 5 years for EVs and PHEVs has been admittedly dominated by business class/fleet cars, compliance cars, greenwashed and unnecessary bourg. The appropriate market demands, seen by PR marketers sadly needed 5 years to develop, if it is yet.
If you can deal with the smaller range, it makes a lot of sense to buy a
@@lukwyns2279 but then you're at the mercy of third party charging networks anytime you want to actually travel some distance other than your daily work and back route. That's something you just can't trust atm.
Tesla are abit like Apple in that respect. They have shown they have a system in place and you know that system (chargers) are going to work and are plentiful (depending on what part of the world you're from) compared to third party competition. As I driver getting access to that is worth the extra cash for peace of mind IMO
I test drove a VW ID 3, because I was considering it for a replacement for my e-Golf, but I was very unpleasantly surprised at the interior. The materials are noticeably cheaper and the new infotainment and the climate controls aren't intuitive at all.
I had the same impression, I think anyone coming from a Golf or Passat will be disappointed. Drives nicely though.
I had an eGolf but ID3 drives better with RWD and it seemed more nimble on test drive. Have ordered an ID4 for January to replace Tiguan (family car) and reviews of pre-production model shows interior is more premium than ID3 with less scratchy plastics etc...
@@tomcollinsie It definitely drives better than the e-Golf, but I commute a lot in traffic, so a nicer interior and infotainment are way more important. Hopefully they stepped up their game with the ID4.
I agree. Don't understand why they couldn't keep material quality at Golf level (at least for the higher trims!)
Climate controls didn't bother me much since I always put it in automatic mode anyways and there are shortcuts to seat heating and changing temp.
and surprise ... it is 15k€ more expensive.
Matt is a very good reviewer!! Your Ferrari rally car review is one of my top vids
Absence of driving excitement is a key strategy by manufacturers to not alarm the vast bulk of buyers looking for "mobility devices". I do like a bit of snap to my driving but I will settle for boring but useful in an EV.
Why it takes 1 minute or more to start ID3 ?
Missed a ton of crucial info... the Leaf has a dying Chademo plug (pretty much the only EV with it), which isn't really developing anymore unlike the CCS in the ID3. And as for the lane keep in the ID3, you can save it as a favorite or shortcut instead of going through menus
Also charging speed is much faster in ID3 at up to 125KW plus active battery cooling unlike the leaf.....
@@tomcollinsie yeah, the Leaf has terrible battery degradation as well. Ignoring these serious flaws and saying it's just as good as the ID3 is a big mistake. If you want a conventional EV with a "normal" interior and some of the Leaf's qualities, just go with any of the Koreans
"And as for the lane keep in the ID3, you can save it as a favorite or shortcut instead of going through menus"
And it has voice commands.
The Handling and Drive is perfectly satisfactory I own one and am quite satisfied with the performance.
Which one are you referring to, the Leaf or ID 3?
@@Tron-Jockey The Leaf 62Kw
I like Matt's style of reviewing.
There's a clear wealth of knowledge and experience, plus there's none of the 'youtuber hype' that many people on this platform try to project.
I even watch some of Matt's reviews on vehicles I'm not that interested in just because I know it's going to be interesting :)
Oh come on, be honest with yourself, all the GOOD reviewer's jumped ship and left Autocar a long long time ago, Matt's probably very talented, and even a very, very nice man, but not in this sector 🙄🙄🙄
I like your type of reviewing. Serious and straight to the point. Great driver too
I drove a leaf for 4 years, and loved it. But I'm glad it was a lease, because the battery and range had degraded quite a bit. It needs a conditioned battery
Did you do a lot of DCFC especially during hot weather? Where was the car registered?
Subscribed just because such a calming reviewer
The one comment that stood out to me was in the Nissan Leaf about this switch in the centre console to enable recuperation and the lack thereof in the ID3. The ID3 has a D (coasting) and B (one-pedal mode). As an e-Golf owner and having driven the ID3, I am missing the manual switch (3 stages in D mode) on the gear stick in the ID3 but the ID3 automatically slows down toward obstacles due to GPS and sensors. So this comment was pretty uneducated.
What I totally agree with is the VW software navigation issues. It takes too many taps to get through the menus.
If the e-Golf had an actively cooled battery and faster charging speeds (11/50-100 kWh/h), I would not be tempted to change the car and would consider it the better vehicle. The ID3 is a neat car but they dropped some neat features from the predecessor that really discourage me from buying one.
As this is review is a few months old you’ve probably worked out that the id3 has an intelligent drive mode which basically does the same as e-pedal assist. But more so as it’s constantly reviewing the speed you should be driving slowing down using regen to suit corners and traffic
We need a new word for the right peddle that isnt throttle, maybe thrust regulator.
The Leaf has a chademo connector, while everybody else has a CCS. How long before public chademo chargers become rare, and then disappear?
The Leaf is front wheel drive and does not have a transmission tunnel as said in the video
Great reviews. As an ardent Leaf owner (3 - a 2013 and then 2 2019 Pluses) I think the ID3 has a huge future ahead of it.
Your prediction is totally wrong. stick to your Leaf and consider yourself lucky. As for the ID3 it is under powered and certainly over priced, and already with some very serious software problems. Just signed for a Leaf 62, by far it is the best deal out of all the EV in the market, and with a 10 years experience in manufacturing and over 500.000 delivered, it is the surest bet out there. You could look in to VW 4 or 5 years from now, but first they will have to gain some experience in building trouble free EV like the Leaf.. Or if Tesla will be able to offer the $25.000 car within a reasonable time frame, then I would definitely try to get one.
@@sat7755 well, we do love our value priced Leafs. Our second Leaf Plus after fed credit was only 23K, so as cheap as an equivalent ICE.
@@douglasalanthompson and they are becoming cheaper and cheaper, with Tesla offering Ferrari type performance numbers in the $50.000 bracket and dipping further, and they surely will probably shave within a decade an additional 30 to 40% for the very elementary reason that only 200 parts are needed to build Tesla drive train versus 1200 to 1400 for an ICE car. While the Tesla EV competitors are a decade behind, with battery and software problems.
@@sat7755 our Leaf batteries have been solid. Thankfully no fires or explosions with Leafs.
Just picked up a 21 S Plus for $22k after fed rebate. Not bad for an ev with 225 range .
I actually enjoy Matt’s reviews. One of the best TH-cam car reviewers I’d say. Keep up the good work guys!
Is the VW id3 passively cooled or not?
I believe it has active cooling.
Who in his right mind would design a car with passive cooling? 🤨
Nissan? The only manufacturer with such a large battery and no cooling!
@@youbencowell didn't stop them from selling .5 mln of only leafs
Thank you for the lane assist rant!
I was on the m6 heading north, a car was parked on the hard shoulder with the driver stepping out into my lane. I quickly tried to swerve out and the lane assist pushed me back and I hit him with my wing mirror! Broke his arm.
@@antonthompson7838 no it was a Vauxhall corsa , 2016 model I think. No other safety tech.
@@Ebonyqwe No you didn't, you clearly just made that up.
@@Malc180s 😛 glad you know best🤔
@@Ebonyqwe WTF!
I enjoyed watching the Video Comparison. I like the ID.3 more than the Nissan Leaf
No Hyundai Ioniq EV or Kona EV?
A number of EV from China looking really promising. BYD, GAC..
i like your dry sense of humour, great for reviewing, some of these complaining people are just too uptight
It is autumn. ...so i suppose the leaf had to fall 😁
In a long distance race the Hyundai 28Kw Ionic and the old 30kW leaf beat this Leaf version - mainly due to Rapidgate
Give me the ioniq any day. Better build quality better efficiency and less expensive.
My Audi Etron (brand new) has a simple button on the indicator stalk for removing the lane assist. Apparently VW has to follow other rules :/
same with the leaf: via a menu or by pressing a single hardware button left to the steering wheel.
ID.3 has two dedicated buttons on the steering wheel: one for only ACC and one for ACC + LKA (travel assist).
He probably didn't ask himself what the few buttons that are actually present really do and went straight to bashing on touchscreens
@@welfiblablabla He is talking about Lane Assist. That's not Travel Assist. Lane Assist is just an emergency system which means to keep you on the road if you are distracted. That's what he wants to switch off. I personally think it is no problem at all, but it is personal taste, I guess. The Travel Assist is really really good. I agree with you there. And it is easy to switch on and off. In fact it switches off, if you press the brake once, anyway.
@@stevie6740 On very narrow country roads, with no visibility round bends due to high hedges in many parts of UK, eg Cornwall, Devon, I would find it extremely annoying and dangerous for the car to tug me to the left.
@@willswomble7274 Totally agreed. However the lane assist in my ID3 does not do that. At least I never had a situation where it tried to and it was not warranted for. In that situation it would probably not find proper markings (because the lane is considered too narrow) and just not do anything. In addition, in contrast to for example what I felt in a Tesla it is a very light force which is easy to override. And once it is overridden, it will not engage again until after you have been back in the proper lane. I think it is really a matter of trying it out, if it annoys you are not. I never felt it did annoy me.
Well, while from a market perspective this is a fair fight,
but from a mechanical car perspective, this is like comparing a 2020 chassis vs. a 2016 chassis that wasn't really that different from 2015, which was a heavy modified version of a 2006 Tiida.
Here in the US we are selling pickup trucks that are conceptually unchanged from the 1930's.
@@Indy_at_the_beach lmaoo
Will the ID 4 be sold in RHD ?
There will be a RWD with the same power of the ID3 and a AWD more powerful motor
Yes
The front is small and has no space because the AC and other components are moved to the front engine bay leaving more room in the cabin. Kindly do some research before doing a proper car review.
There is a reason the leaf is the benchmark and why every manufacturer tries to badmouth it. But it keeps winning as it did against the Model 3 driving up and down hilly roads
The VW ID.3 is the Prius for Volkswagen. Can we get this point and realization please?
I definitely love its giant interior space with big front quarter windows like a Citroen Picasso.
And it technically has a very areo shape short from becoming a kamm back.
...
Honestly, wtf is Toyota doing?? The Hyundai Ioniq was 3 years ago!
Ioniq 28 should be the best used EV ever.
I bought the Nissan Leaf e+ tekna, it's a lovely car in many ways.. but the seating gives no support, and the lack of reach adjustment on the steering column renders the car pretty useless for me. Unfortunately my move to electric has resulted in me having to drive my wife's diesel on any journeys longer than 20miles.. When the pain of sitting in the car kicks in.. Sad really
Nice
If you switch off economy mode and put your foot down in the Leaf you would realise there's plenty of punch.
This is a poor review. Traditional motoring journalists are fresh out of ideas. Who in real word cares about stiffness of the monocoque? Fully Charged has you guys licked for relevancy. The correct answer is that if you are not brand loyal, choose the Leaf if urban driving dominates your mix because of the excellent e-pedal feature. Choose the ID.3 if you drive more on twisty extra urban routes or if you want a car that is newer and trendier. I like both. We currently lease a Leaf N-Connecta. Wise up guys.
Would have liked the Chevy Bolt to be included in the comparison. At this point, I'd say the Bolt is the benchmark to beat for second place (tesla obviously gets first place)
I don't think that the Chevy Bolt is available in the UK. I personally think that's a shame, as it seems like a pretty good car.
1950s: There will be beautiful cars in the future
2020:
Great point about regen in the leaf - IMO VW are daft not to allow full regen in the ID3, even as an option. It's a very strange decision.
Thank you for ranting about lane keep assist - I completely agree and this cannot be said loudly enough or often enough.
I might have mentioned active vs passive battery cooling as another reason to choose an ID3 over the Leaf, Nissan's decision not to cool the battery actively is looking worse by the day.
If you add residuals into the mix, I wonder how much more a Tesla M3 SR+ would be to own over the launch edition ID3s. Not much I suspect...
The electric car especially Nissan leaf is interesting car and I like Volkswagen i 3 also
Strange comparison between a car, that makes 1000 km in 10h45min vs car which makes it in 15h30 min. Which one would you take???
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
But Bjørn did a second Leaf test with a time of 14h10, but still your point is valid.
Neither. It takes me 5 minutes to fill my petrol tank.
I would buy the LEAF, and keep my petrol car around for the half dozen long trips I need per year. Then I would keep the $20,000 difference and invest it.
@@pioneer7777777 - i guess you have one of those cost-free, tax-free, maintenance-free petrol cars. Mine was just regular, so i've sold it. Now i can swap my good EV for a friend's petrol car for few days if i need ICE car for something exceptional. I'll let you know if it happens :)
In summary:
The ID 3 feels like a cheap futuristic golf and the Leaf feels like a Prius.
hmm as a normal driver to shops and home i did not understand anything
ID.3 looks quite nice
Leaf was great when it was introduced but now the design of VW is at least a couple of years newer than the leaf
Well done
Lane assist on new VW range is so bad. Dunno how it got signed off for production. At least put in an option to keep it off by default.
Maybe have to be ON by the law?
@@ivand911 Stupid EU!
I subbed
(pre-viewing comment dunno if it's mentioned) VW has an issue where it reads UK speed signs & interprets as kph rather than mph, causing it to slam the regen/brakes on. They say a fix is coming... In January next year, not great support there really imho - imagine the uproar if it began with the letter T. ;)
My ID.3 hasn’t done this, I am aware that it has happened to some though.
wow you got angry about a button lol
Does Matt Prior ever get enthusiastic about any car.
Perhaps compare ID.3 to ICE alternatives as well? Other EVs aren’t its only rivals, IMO.
Nissan have ECo mode and in that mode, you feel Slow response but if you used S mode (lighter regenerating breaking) or normal mode ( in which e-paddle off) then it will give the quick response.
The 40 kwh Leaf is way much more fun than Ford Focus 1.0 ever will be .Don’t know the 60kwh leaf
Not sure why a family car in 2021 can still have a rear wheel drive. I am glad that Nissan leaf is still competitive at least with id.3 thanks to unclear decisions of German carmakers
Why did VW have to go all out with the ID3......... because they screwed it up!? Why not an E-Golf interior on the ID3 platform. Why not make all the plastics soft touch and lose 5 miles of range (say 245 instead of 250)? Why a standalone infotainment system? Why haptic feedback buttons? And why the hell have a heat pump as an expensive option?
I was looking forward to the ID3, and yes it's the better car here, but its not as good as it should have been!
And assuming he can se the structure twisting in his rear mirror... haaa haa haa
I thought the ID3 is generally held to be quieter and more refined than the Leaf, with less road and wind noise, but this reviewer finds the opposite.
You can hear the noisey id3 3 in the video.
Personally I like Matt's style, very informative
I would buy the vw just because it’s RWD 😊
Reviewers should not say they are rivals. All EVs rival petrol and diesel cars
I have a VW Golf MK7. The ID3 interior looks crap. What are VW thinking of.
The Nissan Leaf doesn’t have an engine in the front but a motor … surely a motoring journalist would know that ???
Drove both, found the lack of seat adjustment and steering rear adjust in the leaf to be a serious issue. Plus the battery cooling issues. I had planned to buy a used leaf that was in a vw dealer but couldnt help but notice the id3. I ended up test driving it and immediately found the id3 far more comfortable and easier to drive. Kids loved the space and pana sunroof, i got a better deal and ended up buying the id3. Don't regret it one minute while i had concerns over buying the leaf.
Maybe you should change your surname to "beige" 🤔🤔🤔
3 year 40kw Leaf lease coming to an end and been looking at the iD3, I wish there was a bit more of a clear winner. I had my naive hopes on the id3 being the “wundercar” answer. It looks good, but not without a few shortfalls. I’ve enjoyed the Leaf, bit dull, but dependable and comfortable, e-pedal excellent, responsiveness fine. Just the range I found limiting. I suspect a leaf+ or id3 is my best choice for next car, but it’s not a very big leap forward.
Lane Assist by Boeing then!