Is there any reason to buy this car in 2021? - Nissan Leaf review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- Once upon a time, the Nissan Leaf was the world's most popular EV. Ten years on from its release, can the original electric family car still hold its own against younger competition?
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I've owned a Leaf 40kW for over 2 years. 25000 miles on the clock (even including Covid) and I absolutely love it. Range for me (with the 40kW battery) is about 130 to 140 miles - possibly more depending on how I drive, but that's fine for me as most journeys are less that 80 miles. It hasn't stopped me doing long journeys. I've done East Anglia to Devon and back, to Scotland and back without any issues - you just need to plan a bit. Single pedal operation (e-pedal) is just brilliant, hardly used the brakes at all in 2 years - the pads and discs look like new still. Do I still love it - a solid YES.
Love mine too. If it wasn't for a regular journey around the M25 and back (165mile total) which absolutely requires a 1hour+ stop at a rapid charger, I'd say its prefect. As it is, my lease is up soon, and I'm looking at what I can afford to get me a realistic 200 miles of electric range next.
I live in Iceland and would travel around the country 1300+ km in 30 even 24 kwh Nissan Leaf
Totally agree I imported a UK new tekna 40kw as I didn't want a Jap import and my commute is 50 km round trip so its perfect for the job. With the sudden increase in fuel prices it's definitely a win and yes I guess it could be more up to date but it does me just fine, anyway I couldn't justify the extra $30K spend on a Kona, Model 3 etc. One happy 2020 Leaf driver!
Sport mode: Hands up any Leaf owners who say "okay, engage sport mode"... as they switch OFF the ECO button 🤣🤣
Me!! I just got a 2021 leaf last weeks and only drive it to work on ECO mode. Sports mode is for weekend grocery shopping trips 🤣
Tekna 40kwh coming next week, upgrading from 24kwh acenta.
@@antoniopalmero4063 ah, enjoy! I wanted to lease the Tekna but was getting pricey back then, so opted for the N-Connecta. I hope you enjoy the full propilot! Always wondered if that would be good.
Exactly!!!
I wouldn't dare drive with the eco off mate, I'm not a race car driver, that's just asking for trouble
I love my Leaf! Totally unpretentious, utterly reliable, uber comfortable and cheap as chips to run.
I have my 2019 tekna 40kwh for 6 months. I still love it everyday. I love real buttons, I love e-pedal, I love pro pilot. It is just so much fun to drive. I have made so far 7000km, never had a range anxiety. I used couple of times rapid charging too. Never had an issue. Built quality is high and driving is fun. Highly recommended!
I drive very often vw Id.3 for my work. It looks more modern than leaf and has a longer range. But the leaf is much more comfy, has bigger space and much better built in quality. Vw is like a toy, leaf is like a car.
The Leaf is still a nice car and I am on my second one and its a 62kw Tekna. The are very reliable and the build quality is consistently good.
The Leaf is still a good car because of its good value pricing, and how nice it is to drive.
Yes, and there's still a very big reason to buy one. Last year I purchased a left over 2019 SV Plus w/tech package in April. As a left over model it was discounted from $41,000 to $28,500 (about $31,000 after tax/tags etc..) and since the Leaf still qualifies for the full $7500 gov't incentive and the state $3000 incentive my final cost was only $20,500. Nissan still has not sold 200,000 Leafs in the U.S. so the incentives still apply. You don't always get the selection when shopping for left over models but there are still plenty to choose from.
Got a 2020 S Plus and really like it.
Yes, a very big reason. Last year I purchased a left over 2019 SV Plus w/tech package in April. As a left over model it was discounted from $41,000 to $28,500 (about $31,000 after tax/tags etc..) and since the Leaf still qualifies for the full $7500 gov't incentive and the state $3000 incentive my final cost was only $20,500. Nissan still has not sold 200,000 Leafs in the U.S. so the incentives still apply. You don't always get the selection when shopping for left over models but there are still plenty to choose from.
Bruh they're offering the lowest trim if these for 24 dollar a month leases rn
@@daldladla where?
Owned a Leaf for a few years (pre facelift), and have since driven hybrids and now an Audi E-tron. Have to say, that the Leaf was the best thought-out by a country mile. So straightforward to use and drive. Never once in 3 years had any issue whatsoever. Would massively recommend as a first EV!
For anyone else reading, I've just done 7 years and 60k miles on my 30kwh 2017 LEAF tekna. No faults apart from squeaky electric mirrors which were changed on warranty. Not one fault, not one thing wrong, amazing.
Just got my first EV a 62kwh the very best value for money in the market by far. The acceleration is fantastic, the ride extremely comfortable, the range at the very top of the category, and with its 10 years on the road experience from the very first model , I feel totally confident that the car will not produce any unforeseen defects, as in those over priced VW and Audi.
Its quick if you need that as well 😎
but, it’s not cool
We test drove a new e+ Tekna last week, and it was fabulous, comfortable, luxurious, very quick, the eco mode was so easy and the pro pilot pretty amazing. Got back in my hilux invincible and it made me feel pretty awful using all that diesel because they are thirsty beasts. So ordered a new e+tekna with the self parking package for my wife and she can’t wait to get it……..I will probably fight her for it though 😂!
The heated steering wheel " only heats the outside of the wheel", which part do you want heating 😂😂😂
Can't be having cold thumbs
@@Electroheads to be fair, on the ones I drove the heat quickly permeates through. Only one small cold spot near the left hand spoke where the heating element clearly enters and leaves
@@basiltozer9078 why buy gloves when you can just dip your hands in warm BBQ sauce every time before driving
i used to have a 2020 leaf tekna 40kw, now i have a 2021 leaf 62kw tekna. between the old leaf and the one i got new, ive had, i think, 3 other EV's. A hyundai kona 40kw, a ioniq 38kw and a e-golf. Between all of them, well, for comfort and quality feel, the E-golf slam dunks all of the other ev's ive mentioned. i would go for a nicely specced 2020 e-golf over a 2020 leaf tekna 40kw any day of the week. in reality a 2020 e-golf has the same range as a 2020 40kw leaf and is overall a nicer car. but i will give credit to a 40kw kona, i can go almost 300km's on a single charge, the leaf and e-golf, you can push to 250km on a single charge without climate on, i wouldnt trust neither to go any further than 230km's at most with climate on.
I chose my current 2021 leaf because, well. it will easily do 350km's on a single charge, and i only paid 29.000,- euro for it ( aprox 24.700,- GBP ). a new 2022 leaf 62kw will set me back 39.648,- euro ( 33944,- GBP ). i think that's outrageous price for a EV with CHADEMO fast charging and only AC charges on 1 phase.. you need 32amps to charge 7,2kw per hour on a normal home charger, most normal households only has aprox 25 amps.. so that means, your leaf will only charge at a rate of 3,7 kw an hour on 16 amps at home!
I like my 62kw leaf tekna for many reasons, but i also think, the interior is dated and the DC chademo charging single phase AC charging is a poor, poor decision by Nissan. they could at least put a 2 phase AC charging port ( 3 would be optimal! ) in the leaf, so it only needs 16 amps to charge at a rate of 7,2kw per hour and thrash the Chademo charge port for a normal CCS DC fast charging port.
Imo, the leaf need a few changes to be a nice EV in 2022. its such a shame Nissan cant be bothered to do it, its not like it'll take a lot of time or money to do it really and would make such a big difference and make it so much more compelling!
Interesting take once again. Very refreshing! Keep them coming Jack
They are the biggest bargains on the second hand market.
Indeed. In my mind every two car household should have one LEAF in it.
Certainly. I was waiting for them to get low enough and I grabbed one for myself
70% of its value gone in 30,000klm , snapped it up for a treat with only 12% capacity loss. These are still a marvel of technology.
Spot on! A very good summary - I hope at least some of the auto makers are following this channel too! ;-)
I am one of those who bought a Nissan Leaf in 2021. I bought a Tekna with 40 KWh battery pack, last February. Conclusion, I love it every day. e-pedal is my favorite. I have never owned a EV before but I drive constantly VW id.3 and Tesla Model S as a company car. First of all Model S is great great car but different class. It is just too much. And the price is triple of the Leaf. VW id.3 is not my favorite at all. The car is brand new one but has many little failures. Built in quality is low and it is not as fun as driving Nissan Leaf. So I will stick to my Leaf. I know the range is not the best. But who cares? It does the job %90 of the time. I live in The Netherlands and I can drive anywhere I want in my country. In addition, I love the interior and exterior of the Leaf. Just my taste. In my opinion, the price performance ratio of Leaf is very high. And this car is solid as rock.
Great entertaining review. I like the presentation style.
The interior isn't long in the tooth, it's a car interior. If you want nothing in your car except a giant screen in the middle, get a Tesla.
I have one, agree - interior is nice, very comfy, lots of buttons = good! No real complaints, but would have to say a slightly bigger, sharper and faster screen would be an improvement.
@@brucekennedy5274 Totally agree with both of you. We used to have a 3 series BMW - so you could say any interior is more inspiring. I'm tall and do find the rear view mirror is an issue.
I prefer analog controls everytime in a car. You don’t even need to look at them.
😂
Worth mentioning that the leaf is one of the few cars left that uses the ChaDeMo fast-charging system. Originally developed by Nissan and originated in Japan, this method has fallen out of favor in Europe. CCS has become the standard, and with Tesla opening up their network there will be even more CCS points.
As of now there seem to be only 2 cars left with ChaDeMo (Leaf and plug-in Outlander). The upcoming Nissan model even has left ChaDeMo behind and moved to CCS. With Nissan also also throwing in the towel, I wold seriously question how long ChaDeMo will be around, and what future it has.
If you always charge at home; or never expect to use fast charging that should not be a problem. But if you tend to keep your car for over 10 years and still like to rapid charge it, this might not be the car for you
In 2024 chademo is no problem
I love my Leaf! Honestly I love the buttons inside and the comfort of the seats! Is reliable, smooth and easy to drive... I generally enjoy driving only because of this car! Any other car I dreaded driving!
Funnily enough, I was just 'window shopping' personal leasing rates for any / all EVs the other night (yeh, I know... I should REALLY get a life...!) and the monthly cost of the e+ Techna Leaf was unbelievably low compared to other similarly list-priced rivals... and I mean sub£200pm low vs £300+ ...!!
At that price, for that size and range of car, that's a seriously tempting proposition and worth 'forgetting' about some of its foibles for... :-)
For an e+ tekna that is very good Where may I ask?
The good thing about Nissan Leaf is the catastrophic depreciation making them affordable to paupers. Even with a few grand blown on new a battery it’s still cheap.
Yeah am picking one up for £280 a month yeah costs me £400 cause lese they work with my tax so only like £280 a monnth the tekna really is nice
Great review. I like the look of the old leaf as well. Nice to see something different and quite classic already on the roads
I love the video and you are so funny. I took delivery of my leaf 40 kWh 2021 today and I can tell you i can’t stop smiling. I turned off eco mode I feel like I’m driving a Porsche 911 from 1988! I beat a Mercedes AMG A130 today off the lights. You should have seen that chaps face when he caught up with me.
I think you forgot to mention "the elephant in the room". This is the fact that the Leaf still has no active thermal battery management. This is why you see old Leafs that no longer do the 110-120 miles, but instead around 40-50 miles from a full charge. I don't think this will help with the residual values of this car in like 5-7 years time when compared to it's direct rivals which I believe most have active battery thermal management.
True, but it looks like the 2nd gen Leafs have a much better battery pack that is able to withstand heat and degradation much better.
Had a 2nd gen 40kw leaf for 3 years - never been an issue. TBF I never do multiple rapids, but I don’t think that many people really do.
Makes it a good buy in cold climates. I'm in Minnesota in the US and have two LEAF's.
To be honest, once they'd brought out the 30KWh Leaf this largely stopped being a problem, as they changed to better chemistry. The longevity of the battery isn't the huge deal breaker it once was but the range drop in cold weather is too high and, even after software updates, it still throttles charging at rapids.
Active thermal management is a deal breaker overall. Unless you're buying second hand.
That's correct for the first generation Leaf but this video is about the second generation. Bigger battery capacity means fewer fast charges which translates to better battery health. Residuals for diesels, now there really IS a problem.
Your reviews are great!
Having had a leaf for nearly 3 years I think you nailed it. My lease is almost up and I will very likely replace it with something like an id3 which seems like the logical ‘itteration’ for me, but I have a feeling I will miss all the things Nissan got right in the Leaf, ePedal being top of the list.
Bruce, by all mean go where you heart commands you. But in my humble opinion I thing you are committing a very serious mistake in switching to a brand new ID3 or 4 VW, already with serious software problems. The Leaf had 10 years EV experience and plenty of time to eliminate the problems. I am not trying to knock VW here, I am merely stating that you should be more careful in your choice and stay with the Nissan with its very good history of reliability. different would be my opinion if you were instead considering a Tesla model 3 widely recognized to be a far superior car.
@@sat7755 hi Thankyou. Sorry should have clarified- I’m leasing. If I had bought the leaf I would almost certainly be keeping it it’s whole natural life! As it is, I have to give it back in a month or two, so i will either try something new for another 3 years, or wait a while (we own our second car, a petrol mini)
Touche.' My gran pa always told me to never enter in to somebody else life, unless I knew absolutely everything about them, as in this case. Good luck with your next car. But whatever you do watch those hybrids. Too complicated, and too costly, for a piss of fuel less a month. Stick to full electric.More than convinced i am going now for a Leaf, as I cannot Afford a Tesla, but the Leaf is definitely the next very best. While all others are too new in the market to be considered a wise purchase, or lease.
@@sat7755 No worries :) Yes new ev's have a lot of bells and whistles which honestly you really don't need in the real world. I've enjoyed my Leaf tremendously. All I could ask for is better efficiency and range. The efficiency is not even a big deal just a nerd thing really, even over years, 3.5miles per kw (roughly what I get) vs 4 in other cars, doesn't make a huge difference in cost. The headline is simply range. Funny how a lot of EV champions say it's not a big deal - to me it really is. I can confidently take 100mile motorway round trip in my 40Kw leaf, but anything further and I'm stressing about if I'll have to stop and find a charger - I really don't ever want to charge anywhere but home for an easy life. For that reason alone I'm looking at something next that can do a "real" 180-200 miles. Yes I'd love something from Tesla too, but I want "golf-ish" size and "golf-ish" price. So I'm still waiting for Elon&Co. to make something like that! If you are cool with the 40kw Leaf's real-world 120-130 mile range, just go for it, you will love it. It drives so well, easy, comfy, practical, big boot and the E-pedal alone is a game changer. Oh and Hybrids? Totally agree... sure, they had their place once, but it's full electric all the way now 👍👍 Best of luck.
I’m glad u can afford to change your EV every few years
The corners are an issue I have with my older gen Leaf. I still need the 360 camera to park in my drive after 4 months!
If you line up with the bug headlights though, generally they are directly at the corners.
Never have eco on though. You won't get any more range vs not. Only difference is how much you have to put your foot down to get the same output. I prefer to just have a light foot.
Can't argue with 6-9k for the 24/30 series though. I bought a 30kWh Tekna and love it
Excellent review. Well done.
Loved the arse cheeks comments! Besides that, all around entertaining and frank as usual
I agree the 2021-22 Leaf is a little outdated but bought one anyway because of reliability and Nissan's commitment to EVs. Previously I owned a Ford Focus EV and when the battery died, it would have cost 2X what I paid for the car to replace it because Ford wasn't committed to supporting that battery (it was basically a compliance platform to drive down Fords fleet mpg). If I do have a battery problem, I believe Nissan will be able to repair at a reasonable cost and even replace individual cells.
I sold my old 24kwh Leaf which I had for nearly 5 years. I have tested Mazda MX-30, Corsa E, Honda E, BMW i3, Zoe and just driven Leaf 40 few days ago and have to say I was very impressed. The range is decent. I was getting avarage 4.6m/kWh. It has decent spec, it's great to drive. I'll be also testing MG5 because of the price, range and estate practicality might beat the Leaf. Lets wait and see 😄
Great review jack
The ZE1 NISSAN LEAF is still the BEST EV on the road for everything that is most important like;
- Safest EV in the world
- Only EV to never have a battery fire or blow up
- Most reliable
- Best Looking
- Best Value Used EV in the world
- Best Styling
- Best Headlights
- Best Body shape
- Best highest build quality'
- Best longest lasting EV
- Best for been FIRST MASS PRODUCED EV
Nice, really nice review! One thing that I have seen is the "new" version of the infotainment system, which is waaay faster. One can recognize this by two USBs instead of USB-A and RCA jack. There is noticable difference once eyou start using it.
Great review. Entertaining and informative. One correction though, the 2010 Leaf range wasn’t 125 miles. Nissan projected a range of 100 miles during development but changed to 85 after production and then changed to 50-130. The EPA set it at 73 miles which sounds about right for the 24kKwh battery. My 2016 30kwh battery has about 24kWh remaining capacity and range is from around 60-80 depending on driving conditions, temp., etc. (which works just fine for my routine😀)
I was thinking the same. Even the 30 kWh wouldn't get to 125 miles.
G-Wizz used 100 years old battery technology and went out of its way to be cheap and nasty. It really was a milk float with a cardboard cabin.
7:43 I've got to ask, what camera equipment are you using here and how?
The leaf has 3 regeneration settings. Normal regeneration in Drive, then put it in boost mode increases the regeneration, not the power output as you might think. Lastly the e-pedal means you barely need the brakes as it will bring the car to a stop at junctions. So, essentially 3 regeneration settings. Had a 19 plate leaf 3 years and its great. Comfortable, quiet and good leg room.
I like the looks of the leaf the most
I'm going to buy one as a second vehicle so any range beyond 120kms is not needed
As a competent mechanic I love the ease of maintenance/repair on the power train and battery.
Supports future and current boutique v2g
Battery cells are easy to repurpose
Is the Chevy Bolt sold there? How would it stack up against the Leaf?
Great review, made me laugh no end
I prefer the style of the mk1 Leaf also. I always thought that it is the mk1 that should have had the 40kWh battery before they moved on to build the mk2.
Bought a new Nissan Leaf Tekna a year ago (2021). One year and 11000 miles later, I still love it. Great driving experience, 0 - 60 in 6.9 seconds on its 160kw motor (221 hp) motor, can outrun my son-in-laws BMW 520i any day! Instant silent torque without the ICE racket. Single pedal driving with e-pedal, more relaxing and doesn’t wear the brakes = less maintenance costs plus no need to clean brake dust off the wheels as there isn’t any. 270mpg equivalent to ICE fuel cost. £220 service after 12500 miles. Cheap insurance. No road tax. Nissan’s high build quality and reliability. 100,000 or 8 year warranty. A proper five seater with loads of head room and a huge boot which happily takes my three labradors for Walkies! Try doing that in an iD3.
Pity Jack does not know how to work ‘Pro Pilot’, he doesn’t know what he is missing!
You said that the Leaf ploughed a solo furrow, but you overlooked the wonderful Renault Zoe which entered the EV market about the same time. I'm on my 4th EV, inc 2 Zoes.
Just to clarify (only 16 months later lol), the blue button is ProPilot Assist. It's basically adaptive cruise control combined with auto lane centering. Think Tesla's AutoPilot on the highway (minus the lane changes). I've owned a 2012 for over 2 years as my only vehicle, I just got a 2016 which is getting a 40kWh warranty replacement. A very affordable way to get 150+ miles of range!
Just taken delivery of mine : leaf e+ Techna 62Kw. I love it.
I`m thinking of buying a Nissan Leaf and i am reading that Chademo chargers may be phased out.
Is this a concern ?
Physical buttons are also far safer than screen icons that you have to take your eyes off the road to operate. The Leaf could become the iconic car of 2021. Nissan has to come to the party, though. They must up the temperature control of their batteries and they must make it easy and reasonably economic to buy a new battery to upgrade your leaf. A conversion kit to turn your used battery into a house battery would also be great.
I just swapped my 4yr old 330d 0-60 4.6s touring for a new e+ N-connecta. What have I done.... first thing I notice is it costs as much to own a nissan as the BMW was to fill up and tax . It seems like it's free to own almost.
"What's this button here"
and this is why kids, you read the manual.
Don’t own one myself but the big plus is that they are fixable by EV specialist garages. The biggest worries are lack of battery cooling and no CCS.
Thank you yet again Jack, you made me laugh. You're tremendous.
What about a second hand choice?
I owned from today new black 62kwh tekna and I really like this car. Inside is very beautiful, and also drive is very nice.
Cruise control.....press cruise control button then set speed but use minus button on set first.
Fuck efficiency, Leaf e+ is sporty, 6,9 sec instant full throttle feels great. The engine power is 160 kW. MOST of competitors have ~100 kW engines accelerate ~9sec 0..60 Mwh or 0..000 km/h but Leaf does 6,9 sec. It is a big deal actually... Yes, Im a person who likes buttons on panel :) So I really like it and I bought it. The build quality is good what is not mentioned. Tesla is superior in tech but... even sitting in Model 3 felt like several things are falling apart in new car + it made sounds on potholes... Im looking forward forr Nissan Ariya.
It’s still pretty much the only electric car readily available and serviceable in my area. Fortunately I love mine.
Don’t they have active battery cooling now?
Great video. Agree with the bit at the end, too - I LOVE my EV to look like an EV! Not for any "Virtue Signalling" but because you can package the interior so much better if you start with a blank sheet.
Give me the advantages! All of them!
Oh,... Hello Hyundai Ioniq 5,.....
I think the "Virtue Signalling" concept only exists in the minds of people who feel they're being preached at, that we use EVs just to point a finger at them. I wonder if they'd be disappointed to find out we don't care what they think, EVs are simply better vehicles.
@@earthwizz BOOM! 😀👍
Enjoyable video but you missed out - I think (??) - on the Leaf's single biggest weakness; a complete lack of battery temperature management!!
So Why is this important? It's important because on a longer trip when you need to charge en-route it will become more and more difficult/slower. This makes longer trips much more onerous.
If Nissan changes the look of the Leaf to a modern good looking appearance, it will sell a lot more.
I was gonna say it's like they don't want to cannibalize something, like Sony does it deliberately with their smartphones.
I wonder how many people buy them as opposed to renting on PCP
One good reason to buy it - 3 people in family who are 6 ft or more. Other EVs don’t have space front and back (without paying much more), except a new game changer now in 2022 - the new MG4 has that leg room, huge range, decent price, but a v long waiting list.
I love my Leaf, great car, does everything I need with style at a great price.
We love our 2 Leaf Plus models.
Totally understand. We have one and we love it more than the BMW, Merc and Jag we had before.
Leaf batterypack is air cooled, that is a "no buy" sign all over the front window.
You really need to know how to treat that battery right to keep the degrading in check.
I have a 2022 Leaf SV Plus. The cruise control and autopilot (for the price) are very good, energy saving and fun. The guy in the video says there is only one level of brake regeneration, which is incorrect. A better review would have occurred if he knew how to work the car he was reviewing. Shift to drive twice while in e-pedal and you get max regeneration braking… quite simple. His “blue force field” button is the autopilot and cruise control, which is probably my favorite feature of the car. Tough review video on the Leaf for me.
I am the same way in my plugin hybrid. I live in South Florida and driving is BORING! Trying to be energy efficient gives me something very zen-like to do in the car. If you sign up for an insurance policy where they monitor your driving, this helps you get a discount as well.
I think you may have skirted around the major shortcoming of the Leaf though. They don't have battery temperature management and therefore cold weather range and battery pack longevity are concerns. Amazing how Nissan threw away their lead. Chevrolet have done the same with the Bolt here in the US.
The solution to not actively liquid cool their batteries made them affordable - you need to study and do some homework😂
Thumbs up because this was filmed in Chingford.
GOOD REVIEW & GREAT CAR.
3:10 I think you meant the 04-09 Astra 😂
I mean when you compare the top spec version of the leaf to any stellantis product it utterly trounces them in performance and rage ... And when you compare a base leaf to them it's either slightly under their price and range with equal performance... As for the ID 3 it's a better car but when optioned up to the same spec could cost upto 7k to 12k more
You mentioned the half-arsed armrest but not the half-arsed lack of any battery temperature management which should have been included when the Mk2 body came along. Thankfully other manufacturers have learnt from Nissan's mistakes and we can all benefit from there now being better cars available; ie, people dumping their olde world Leafs in order to get the latest new cars will mean there should be more second hand Leafs available to a people on a lower budget :)
Serious question: Why/how is one pedal driving "fun"? The two cars I use the most have adaptive cruise so after pushing the brake to start I can do zero pedal driving until I get to the destination most of the time. They slow down and speed up on their own and buttons on the steering wheel can do the job of the gas pedal. AEB will, and has brought the car to a complete stop more than once when deer darted into the road. I consider it convenient, but not fun, especially since my right side doesn't work well to the point that I have to pick that leg up with my hand to even get in the car. I've seen several EV reviews mention it and I just don't see the appeal.
No point explaining. Go test drive one and you will find out.
I loved my 2012 Nissan LEAF, and drove it for over 6 years and 62K miles. The only drawback? It's 100 miles range. Still, as an everyday runabout in the city, it was great. Funny thing, though: I became so enamoured of it, that I could no longer stand to drive an ICE on roadtrips, hence… I upgraded to a Tesla Model 3. And I adore it! Nissan dropped the ball, unfortunately, and Tesla leapfrogged them. Maybe they'll get back in the game with their Ariya…?
LEAF is a waste of time. I invested $5K in TSLA stock in 2010 when it had its initial IPO, picked up 250 shares, the stock had a 5x split in August 2020 resulting in 1250 shares. As of 9/30/2021, I am sitting on a nice sum in my IRA. Made only one withdrawal and this has paid for my Tesla Model S LR and I have a Cybertruck reserved, (125,000 place in line). The endless Supercharger system provides "range anxiety" free driving from Key West to Seattle and it lets me know the availability of stalls at my upcoming charging stops. Super acceleration, no BATTERY DEGRADATION, especially love the smart summon on rainy days to come to pick me and the misses up at the door of restaurants. Currently trying the FSD BETA and am stoked. BTW today's closing price was $775. Much better than making a $5,000 down payment on a LEAF when it came out, which I almost did. I saw a Tesla Roadster and had a long chat with the owner and was sold on the system and attention to detail.
Ok my darlings, you want car review suggestions. How about my old mothers electric Hillman Imp, well the radio was electric. The car sported a rear engine which freed up a space for a frumk as you would say.
You miss one of the biggest issues, rapidgate because of the passive thermal management and the lack of ccs due to chademo
We have this car and live in the UK. Love Chademo - ccs on the same pumps isn't always working it seems. Rapidgate is not an issue unless your driving hundreds of miles and then only on the last charge. We have had it two years and hardly ever use a fast charger anyway because of the inbuilt range is more than enough for most journeys.
It's a non issue, certainly in the UK, unless you are going to use the car for longer trips on a regular basis. Chademo chargers are widely available in the UK - also a non issue.
Had mine for 3 years - rapidgate never once been an issue. If you do frequent 300mile+ trips then maybe, but not me.
Chademo is perfectly fine and should be for years. That said, css has won the "VHS vs Betamax" war as the European standard now - the new Ariya will be css in Europe.
Have had two Leafs and love them! If Nissan would make purchase of new batteries easy, and price them reasonably they would capture the EV world commuter market.
Its a compelling car for me, just wish it didnt have a chademo charger as those are basically nowhere to be found in the US. Unless there are CCS adapters for this, it just isn’t a sensible choice imo.
Nice review but the audio sounds like you are talking through a pair of socks. By the way some police cars are Leaf, not sure which one but interesting.
‘The crumple zone wasn’t just…your face’ 😂😂😂😂👍🏻😂😂👍🏻
No heat control for the battery so not good!
The leaf is still a good car, and certainly a better option than a combustion car. I too prefer the looks of the original Leaf to the refresh version. The lack of liquid cooling/heating for the battery pack should have been addressed in the refresh version.
Do your home work before you cry on about a battery system you don’t understand 🤣 prime example of a keyboard expert....
@@badchefi I’m an EV owner, and I did a lot of homework before parting with my cash. The lack of thermal management of the battery remains the one significant weakness for the Leaf.
@@simonreeves2017 it is hugely dependent on the climate where you life and distances you need to travel.
Nissan’s biggest mistake was the lack of education for the customers.
Even though if you read the user manual in its entirety you will understand it’s limitations and what it can do.
As new EV’s pop up now it becomes clearer on how good the Leaf really is.
Compare the Honda, VW, Peugeot, MG ZS etc. and find that they get less km per kWh than the old leaf.
I really really wish Nissan did a full update this Japan motor show, it’s a good car in 64kw mode but it’s lost touch with not only psa , ford and vw , Kia, and Hyundai all have taken more than a big chunk and the continued support for chadamo outside Japan is hurting it , Nissan admit this standards dead due to the demand for ccs to be mandatory in the eu and USA on new cars , and are implementing it on the suv but not the leaf which is more than odd, we know from mules tested in the USA, a 4x4 and crucially water cooled can and have been fitted to the current model frame but there have been no announcements again odd, if Nissan made it a fraction longer so more legroom was available kind of like the old golf plus was to the golf , in a way I kind of miss the split speedo from the mk1, it needs water cooling , ccs 125kw , 11kw ac charging , reach and rake wheel, auto pilot 3.0 recently approved in Japan , matrix headlights , and maybe a new clean slate design , as the mk 2 was heavily criticised by existing users that it didn’t go far enough using most of the existing door cards etc in a way I kind of wish they followed e-Nero in that it looked like a normal car , one think has to be improved on though is the motor type and battery chemistry as the current prism cells have lost touch compared to LG, vw up and coming cells and if gm and Hyundai’s new packs with 800w capability get any traction, Nissan will really be in trouble, an suv based on old tech know to rapid gate won’t be the answer to all there problems and pack swelling on the 40kw reported , Nissan need to get investigating not charge thousands for just out of warranty when the issue was found, with the us market heavily under attack from the gm euv and others , please Nissan don’t kill the leaf
GM and Hyundai just faced global recalls for their “superior” battery packs🤣
The longer time goes no the better the Leaf looks...
It’s the only one with bidirectional charge, so it can run your house if you wanted it to!
Now called #V2H and is becoming standard, Ford F-150 lightning has it, so will Tesla, and it will be mandatory in some countries.
I have one arriving on Tuesday on a personal lease. This is the cheapest EV on the market, at £200 per month on a 3 year lease. Heavy discounts are out there, and with no tax and cheap fuel, it becomes a very cheap car to run.
The new leaf has the Civic Type R vibe to it, it just reminds me of it straight away.
Haha that's what I like to pretend when I drive mine 🤣
Especially in Red!
I've gotten so used to the style of the old Leaf, I now like it better. If you don't need a lot of range (me) you can pick them up rather inexpensively. Saving my money to buy one.
I have the "new" one and used to think it was way more handsome than the original ugly 'frog'. But now, I can really see it's charm and also how similar they are. Also, I would imagine the old one is a bit more streamlined and possibly less wind noise.
@@brucekennedy5274 Possibly more streamlined, but I've always gone for the ugly duckling, or the runt of the litter, so maybe that's part of it.
@@dlittlester The ugly duckling has more personality for sure 🤣 and secured it's beloved place in the EV history books.
Can I give two likes? :-) July 2021. Awaiting delivery of my second LEAF (not Leaf) Tekna, the e+ with bigger battery and many other improvements.
BTW the rear view mirror bracket is adjustable and can be moved up quite a bit to improve view. Very fair review. Too many testers are in LHD cars so right-handed drivers don't encounter difficulties with central screens.
Considering it still has a passive cooling system, it will never be able to charge quickly.
I'm in America, but if I where in Europe I'd choose the ID3 or 2022 bolt with 259 EPA range at $32,000.
Well, until the $25,000 Tesla comes out. It will definitely have more than 200 miles of range and possibly 250 or 300 because people are willing to pay $10,000 extra for the long range Model Y in such great numbers Tesla cancelled their standard range 244 mile Y
Someone needs to buy new so others can buy used :-). I agree Leaf needs a battery pack cooling system to modernize power train.
I believe so. It should still be the most stable car for the next 5 years time is my guess.
For the right price, absolutely. They are getting huge discounts in America with the Nissan Cash and the tax credit. This is going to be our car we use for day trips and running errands. Our other car will be used for any long trips as that would be my only concern with this car or any EV for that matter, but obviously some are better if you don't mind waiting for them to chargs. By the time our other car goes, hopefully we'll be close to waiting only 5 to 10 minutes to get up to 80% charge from 20% with a 400 mile range at a "reasonable" price.
With the news on YT about new types of batteries coming to wildly increase range, I would have to wait. If buying new I might lease again. I would hate to buy one today and have 900 miles range come out next year with Sulphur batteries. Still, this is no time to be without an electric car.
I like this guy/reviewer! First time I have heard the word:; Blobby (sp?).....I love the Nissan Leaf....like allot of people in America
ID buy a LEAF (before any VW!!!).....
The last good VW was golf mk2 anyway lol
Wait till Giga Berlin ramps out production
The Leaf just as the BMW i3 are not good choices when it comes to electric cars as they still lack a battery cooling system which is essential for prolonging the life of the battery. Without proper thermal management the battery will drop in capacity and they will not be any use as second hand cars. The 1stGen Leafs have dropped as much as 50% capacity over 10 years, so they have no more than 45-50 miles per charge left.
Fwd decent range 150 to 240 mi range passive cooling means less maintenance and good value best ev for the money.
I watched this video in August 2023 ... and today I would absolutely not buy this car except for local town use assuming you can charge at home. Any charging on other locations will be seriously hindered by the lack of Chademo charging sites. Some charging providers are starting to drop the Chademo as not enough cars needing it, so in due time it will spiral towards almost zero Chademo charging anywhere.
You missed other vehicles that were around 10 years ago...
There was the GWIZZ and electric Milk Floats too so there!
Oh, I see now you've mentioned it, well done.
My neighbor has this car and raves about it, he loves it, says it's the best all rounder for price and spec out there. Meanwhile I will still with my Golf GTE n 25/27miles of electric range haha oh n the blue button is Nissan's pilot system isn't a the safety and automative driving functions the car has mate ( am sure u knew that though) 😉🤦